I got these on ebay for $90 back in 2007 almost brand new, wore them to high school and was breaking necks like crazy. In 3 months the hype for Jordans started skyrocking and was able to sell them used for $250 on Ebay again. Good old days.
Man. Loved this video. Lost my cat yesterday. She was 3 years old and she still looked like a kitten. Loved the review and the ending. This video cheered me up a little. Cat person here but I used to have 5 dogs at one point. Thank you, Chris and Jody.
I was little when these dropped. When I hot into sneakers, the 17 and 17 low were one of the first shoes that I was soooo intrigued with. Man, what a shoe. Presentation at its finest.
Call me crazy but 17's are pretty high up on my favorite jordans list. I actually love all his wizards shoes, some more than a couple of his bulls shoes and we need retros of the team fbi and jumpman select/all star.
When I was first getting into sneakers, I always gravitated towards the lesser known Jordan's, like the 2s, 15s, 16s, and 17s. I had a pair of original 17s with the case and CD that my boss gifted me, brand new, never worn, with the peel stickers on. I loved those things.
Best shoe channel on RUclips imo. You bring the perfect blend of pure enthusiasm for the shoes and actual technical/historic information on them too. And you do it all in a down to earth, laid back way that's informative and easy to digest. Keep up the good work!
@@WearTestersI just wonder why they weren’t that expensive when they originally came out the highs were 200 with the brief case and the lows were like 150 I think with no suitcase
@@natedogg8648 This was the standard way of manufacturing back then and they had even cheaper labor than they do today. Most factory's are setup to make footwear with textiles and hot meld materials (faster and cheaper construction methods) so things are just different today.
I liked the longer video tbh. Loved the comparison with the older pair, and its always fun seeing you nerd out over the tech. As always, a great vid and can't wait for the next. Keep up the amazing work! 🔥👍
The irony of him missing the dunk is that it’s not because he couldn’t jump high enough. He just didn’t realize what he should do and didn’t want to hurt himself. I’m 37 and thankfully still able to dunk, but I’m not doing anything creative nowadays and I definitely don’t have as much power as he had when he took off for that dunk.
The explanation of the tech is the best part to me. We all like sneakers but you're teaching us about them in a way that is more than just style and when MJ wore the shoes. The Tech explanation is why I come to your channel. Thanks for providing attention and emphasis to detail!
For a sneaker I’m visually not in love with, these kicks have hella technology incorporated. Thank you for taking your time to enlighten the masses 👑✅💯
This is why I love your channel. Complete detailed breakdown with the visuals was awesome. I was never interested in the shoe but loved learning about it.
1: No apologies necessary for an in-depth video 2: As a wide footer, I loved the squared toe box, but I hated the way the tpu panels chewed up the sides of my feet when playing. Still got the suitcase somewhere. 3: QOTD: puppies by a narrow margin, I've had cats before, but never a kitten.
I love yall videos. As someone who is in college right now aiming to become a footwear designer in the future, the information you guys share is very helpful and also intriguing. I’m glad I discovered this channel years ago. Love from Salem, Ma❤
Ain't nothing wrong with the length of the video especially when explaining details we didn't know about. I love the 17s. I'm trying now to figure out how I'm gonna get them.
this is going to be like the space jams. resellers are gonna call it a brick but jordan brand fans are gonna love it. that is a great shoe. not sure i would want to wear them. but they would look amazing on a shelf with the case.
remember seeing that shoe with a briefcase in store and thinking, "nice presentation." but most of them didn't sell out in our area and went on sale. after it went on sale around 30% off, it sold out. 🙂
The tech is what makes very expensive I don’t wanna hear anybody saying that this shoe cost two dollars to make because it doesn’t and that’s why they produce so few of them. Plus all the All-Star Kicks are special to me ever since the first time he wore an alternative color way in the All-Star game 92 Bordeaux 7️⃣ then the aqua eight then the Columbia 11 he didn’t wear a special color again until this shoe right here in the 2002 All-Star game .
Yeah man, I was always surprised that Jordan didn't wear the True Blue 3's in the '88 All Star game... & then rock the Military Blue 4's in the '89 ASG. Both pairs would've actually matched better with the uniforms the NBA went with during those 2 years.
@@TWIZZTHEWHIZKID 🎯spot on Twizz & if Uniforms were like 96 in San Antonio in 90 how 🔥 to see him play in Grape 5s in 90. That shoe is already cult classic from FP. If they would’ve done that we just might’ve seen a proper retro by now (W Laces holes) peace Bro
@@TWIZZTHEWHIZKID 💯 Twizz Grape 5s in 1990 & saved black metallics for playoffs. Grapes already legendary, but w the uniform colors from 96 he wore with Columbia 11s would’ve been od ahead of time that he was already ahead of. In 91 the game was in Charlotte. He could’ve busted them back out instead of the infrared sixes cause we were going to see those for the best championship run I ever seen. 4-4-5 & out …. Lakers got game one on that Sam Perkins, three-pointer and I was it.
Great video like always. I'm watching your channel from almost 8 years and learned a lot from nim. Keep doing what you do and don't apologize for the long video. Greetings from Poland.
Definitely enjoying all the videos regardless of the content. Will be ordering the other hoodies on your since apparel merch, might order on the since 92 shirts as well ;)
Man when you were going over the OG lows, brought me all the way back to sophomore year of HS. And going over the tech of the originals, it made sense why they didn’t last me the summer lol I started playing in them outdoors and burnt through the outsole and midsole so damn fast. And definitely puppies lol
Pardon my number of comments Chris but I’m so excited to see some more of what Jordan brand has in store for Numbers 15 through 23. These are definitely a go for me.
@@IAmInfinitus208 Same here , used to call it the Venus flytrap Silhouette, but I look at Obsidian 15s now. Eastbay Pack really would knock OG sneaker community for a loop & shake it up a little bit. Right now I feel like there’s too much of a cross contamination of influencer that used terms like OG, but have no idea what that means it’s lost all meaning it’s become almost like a colloquialism . I need the white/ Purple ones Ray Allen’s Bucks PE I’m not picky it can be a GR. It doesn’t need the Ray 34 branding interesting thing about that shoe on the back tab. Is it’s 23-15-6. 23 obviously for his number 15 for the model six for the amount of championships . It’s really also 999 or 999 they came out in 1999 so look at this. 23= 6 15= 6 & 6 obviously = 6 if invert it it’s 999 definitely don’t believe that was a coincidence tinker is way too detailed for that. He definitely put as Easter egg but I never see anyone catch unless understand numbers.
The original wizards colorway you have is what I want to come back out,hope the new update pair comes with the cd.I really want the 22’s colorway to come back,they remind me of a predecessor to the 17’s.especially the ones with the basketball skin color way.
I remember the AJ17 I was in the university back in France and I was going to buy them but ended up buying a shoe for myself and a shoe for my sister !
The case grabbed my attention tbh lol I love the thorough coverage on the shoes Adidas should have used a case like this for their ADI2000 Blue-Eyes White Dragon Shoes iykyk
got the OGs in the white and red cw and they came in a red breif case. they were a back to school purchase on tax free weekend. I specifically remember goin to champs, footaction and footlocker before my mother eventually bought em’ for me. even back then the price for those was like double the normal OG retro prices. I remember the salesman at footlocker tellin my mother and I that I could use the breif case to put my toys in when asked by my mother what I was gonna do w it. every other sales man was like… idk when asked that same question. that’s why I ended up gettin my white and red ones from footlocker.
Kittens, but I love both. More importantly, this is the video I have been waiting almost a month for. The Lightning 17s might be my most anticipated release of 2024. Already have my pair secured and can’t wait for their arrival. As always, I love your videos. When it comes to sneaker channels on RUclips, second place isn’t even close. This teacher thanks you once again for the sneaker education!
Got some real core memories with these pairs, both the OG and the low, despite never owning either lol OG: back in 6th grade (2002) EVERYBODY was all about the Adidas T-Macs. Everyone, myself included, had a pair. Nike and Jordan weren't as hot back then, especially for signature athlete shoes (VC was the only guy they had at the time iirc). When intramurals came around, everybody was getting ready to hoop and then one of the new-ish kids in school came to the court with a silver suitcase. Everybody was confused until he opened it and pulled out the OG red 17s which no one hade ever seen before. Dude looked like a legit baller and was pretty big for a 12y.o. filipino kid back then. Come jump ball, he won the tip and.....that was about it for his highlights. Dude had 2 left feet and couldn't actually hoop to save his life😂 Lows: next year (2003) was my high school freshman year in a new school. There was a junior at the time who was legit the Michael Jordan of that school. Never lost championship games, held all the scoring records etc and these lightning lows were his pair. The funny thing is is that after every game, before he went home, he would just leave his 17 lows in his locker by the restrooms without locking it. No padlock no nothing. Just threw them in there until the next game. Hell, sometimes he didn't even close the locker all the way. And NO ONE dared to steal 'em. Aside from the fact that we were a small school of about 360 students and everyone would know if you stole something from someone, all the hoopers in school respected TF outta this junior because of his skill and dominance. His 17s were safe because we would rather watch him hoop/play with him than have a shot at some "new" Js😂
If I recall didn't they call the heel Air unit a Blow molded Air unit. I played a lot in the 17s both mids and lows and they were solid performers. Fun personal fact. When the 17's first dropped I bought just about every colorway both for the mids and the lows. And that was back when $200 was crazy to spend on sneakers. But at that time I didn't have any kids or a wife and all my money was mine LOL
Great review Chris! I didn't care for these when they released in 2002. I like them less now, but the review and presentation was great! Best sneaker channel on YT!
The 17's are the best basketball sneaker I've ever played in. I had the first releases of the Wizards home colors and would rock them with my Jordan Wizards jersey. They were so comfortable and had amazing grip. I wore them and played in them so much the glue eventually gave way, that was a sad day for me. I did though hate the lace lock and cover that came with them. Im definitely a dog dude.
💯 I’m much more happy about things like these than most collaborations. Especially TS lows , but then a beautiful, original color way like the shadow one low drops and nobody cares that’s very strange to me. It shows me that they don’t really like Jordan one Lowe’s. They just like that name.
Just like Jordan's missed dunk, I'm going to let these bounce away from me. I always love the shoe breakdowns, I love learning things from your channel! 👨🎓
The vid was not too long; it was super informative - so it seemed short. I am on the fence with these shoes! I love the look, think they’re cool - I just wish I could try them on. The thing that sucks about all of these raffles is that if something fits a little wonky, it’s a final sale w/no return. Puppsters all the way! And definitely the puppy smell has something to do with it 😂 🐾
TIL that 17s and 18s are square toed just like the 16s (since it so obvious in that model) i always love 16. Maybe i’ll give the 17 a try too since they share the same setup (zoom fore foot, air in the back).
14:36 one of my favourite film is about the cats of Istanbul (it’s Kedi by Ceyda Torun), and one resident of the city says in it it’s because dogs thinks about the humans as gods, but cats are aware of Gods existence. And they are not ungrateful or anything, they just know better Gods will. It’s a great movie, and in Europe it’s available through RUclips premium, if it’s up in the USA as well you should give it a watch imo.
Kittens all the way! And yes we have had both... I wanted these 17s back in 2002 but we were busy saving to pay off our wedding... now to work out who the heck is stocking these in Oz!
Don't like 17 lows but I love me some 17 highs...the white/red pair with the red suitcase was incredible...still have those o.g 17 low baby blues n they in alot better shape then the ones shown in this vid
Great video as always! Been excitedly waiting to hear Chris's thoughts on these. Disappointing that they even fell short on the thickness of the leather on this $300 pair, and I agree that they should've worked more on that toe slope. Still easily my most desired sneaker this year, and a personal must-have. Oops, forgot to answer the question: I'm allergic to both so my real answer is neither, but I prefer kittens.
I was a bucket in these. I thought they had a dope azz design when I first saw them, had to have um to hoop in. Not gonna get um cause too many above on the list but I love seeing them. ❤
I know jb would never do it, but would love if they could switch that poly eurathane out for a cushlon set up. Anyways beautiful shoe and fantastic review as always, appreciate the history on these.
Love the video! Had these back in the day ! I played ball in them they didn’t last! I thinking they had too much plastic! Huge pass for the price and they really don’t go with anything! Keep up the great content!
Love this “extended” video. I’m pleasantly surprised the flight case came with these but that’s dope!It is interesting they chose not to customize it a little to cut cost and all that space reminds me of the boxes the AJ 12 comes in. 😆 I might be an outlier but I actually enjoyed MJ’s Wizard days. As for the question of the day, KITTENS ALL DAY!!!!!!! I love cats, especially their independence. Team kittens here!! ❤😻
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Don't apologize for the long video Chris! Seeing all these details in the video explained by you is such a pleasure!
I got these on ebay for $90 back in 2007 almost brand new, wore them to high school and was breaking necks like crazy. In 3 months the hype for Jordans started skyrocking and was able to sell them used for $250 on Ebay again. Good old days.
Never apologize for length of video. You have so much information to share and that’s why we are here 😊
Sorry and puppies
Man. Loved this video. Lost my cat yesterday. She was 3 years old and she still looked like a kitten. Loved the review and the ending. This video cheered me up a little. Cat person here but I used to have 5 dogs at one point. Thank you, Chris and Jody.
Sorry to hear that 😔
Sorry to hear about your loss.
Sorry about your cat buddy.😢
Sorry about your loss.
Sorry for your loss
I was little when these dropped. When I hot into sneakers, the 17 and 17 low were one of the first shoes that I was soooo intrigued with. Man, what a shoe. Presentation at its finest.
Call me crazy but 17's are pretty high up on my favorite jordans list. I actually love all his wizards shoes, some more than a couple of his bulls shoes and we need retros of the team fbi and jumpman select/all star.
My all time favorite Jordan silhouette, wish they retroed the Varsity Red 17’s, those the ones I ALWAYS wanted.
When I was first getting into sneakers, I always gravitated towards the lesser known Jordan's, like the 2s, 15s, 16s, and 17s. I had a pair of original 17s with the case and CD that my boss gifted me, brand new, never worn, with the peel stickers on. I loved those things.
15s 🤮
Best shoe channel on RUclips imo. You bring the perfect blend of pure enthusiasm for the shoes and actual technical/historic information on them too. And you do it all in a down to earth, laid back way that's informative and easy to digest. Keep up the good work!
Thank you ☺️
@@WearTestersI just wonder why they weren’t that expensive when they originally came out the highs were 200 with the brief case and the lows were like 150 I think with no suitcase
@@natedogg8648 This was the standard way of manufacturing back then and they had even cheaper labor than they do today. Most factory's are setup to make footwear with textiles and hot meld materials (faster and cheaper construction methods) so things are just different today.
One of my top 5 Jordan releases in 2024... 🌩️ ⚡
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facts
This is why you’re the GOAT. Love the detailed breakdowns of shoes 🙏🏻
The best Nike/Jordan review channel on here. Complete break down is much appreciated
As always!!
I liked the longer video tbh. Loved the comparison with the older pair, and its always fun seeing you nerd out over the tech. As always, a great vid and can't wait for the next. Keep up the amazing work! 🔥👍
The irony of him missing the dunk is that it’s not because he couldn’t jump high enough. He just didn’t realize what he should do and didn’t want to hurt himself. I’m 37 and thankfully still able to dunk, but I’m not doing anything creative nowadays and I definitely don’t have as much power as he had when he took off for that dunk.
The explanation of the tech is the best part to me. We all like sneakers but you're teaching us about them in a way that is more than just style and when MJ wore the shoes. The Tech explanation is why I come to your channel. Thanks for providing attention and emphasis to detail!
For a sneaker I’m visually not in love with, these kicks have hella technology incorporated. Thank you for taking your time to enlighten the masses 👑✅💯
This is why I love your channel. Complete detailed breakdown with the visuals was awesome. I was never interested in the shoe but loved learning about it.
Liking the long video dude; never apologise for yours and Jody's creativity, it's awesome 👌
PS missing your podcasts, really enjoyed those. 👍
1: No apologies necessary for an in-depth video
2: As a wide footer, I loved the squared toe box, but I hated the way the tpu panels chewed up the sides of my feet when playing. Still got the suitcase somewhere.
3: QOTD: puppies by a narrow margin, I've had cats before, but never a kitten.
I love yall videos. As someone who is in college right now aiming to become a footwear designer in the future, the information you guys share is very helpful and also intriguing. I’m glad I discovered this channel years ago. Love from Salem, Ma❤
I remember MJ wearing this model in ASG, thank Gob the brought back the suitcase.
Love this video and it led me go back to rewatch the Air Jordan project of these shoes. And all I can say is I still enjoy it as I did before.
I dont remember what issue of Slam magazine it was out of, but I had a pin up poster of that missed dunk.
Ain't nothing wrong with the length of the video especially when explaining details we didn't know about. I love the 17s. I'm trying now to figure out how I'm gonna get them.
After 8 years since I lost my previous dog, I just got a new pug puppy.
He is the best thing thats happened to me since then!
Loved the long detailed video
Originals came in a face box with a real nice dust bag. I still have the UNC with the face box and the dust bag but they’re no longer wearable.
this is going to be like the space jams. resellers are gonna call it a brick but jordan brand fans are gonna love it. that is a great shoe. not sure i would want to wear them. but they would look amazing on a shelf with the case.
I was a puppy when these first came out and they're my favorite pair of Jordans!
Bro this is by far the best sneaker review I’ve ever seen you got a new subscriber bro amazing video 👍🙌🏾
Missed a dunk at MSG too. 1992 playoffs in the raptor 7s.
I was born in 2001 but I love learning about these shoes from back in the day!
Always appreciate your videos even if they do run longer; I love all the detailed info!
Awesome, thank you!
Love your content fam! Keep it up! Can't wait to see what else you make in 2024! 👟🔥🎥
Don’t apologize for the length of the video. This was great and informative.
Puppies 1000%... Hope I get a pair of these. Doesn't feel like it's going to be easy. Great review!
remember seeing that shoe with a briefcase in store and thinking, "nice presentation." but most of them didn't sell out in our area and went on sale. after it went on sale around 30% off, it sold out. 🙂
We love long videos Chris don't apologize for giving the people what they want, Keep it up! another great one!
Awesome! Thank you!
Wayan brother voice: 300 of them thangs kid???
Loved the info and breakdown of tech features.
QOTD answer is tough, but puppies take it with a slight edge.
Truly appreciate the detailed information on the shoe 💯‼️
The tech is what makes very expensive I don’t wanna hear anybody saying that this shoe cost two dollars to make because it doesn’t and that’s why they produce so few of them.
Plus all the All-Star Kicks are special to me ever since the first time he wore an alternative color way in the All-Star game 92 Bordeaux 7️⃣ then the aqua eight then the Columbia 11 he didn’t wear a special color again until this shoe right here in the 2002 All-Star game .
Yeah man, I was always surprised that Jordan didn't wear the True Blue 3's in the '88 All Star game... & then rock the Military Blue 4's in the '89 ASG. Both pairs would've actually matched better with the uniforms the NBA went with during those 2 years.
@@TWIZZTHEWHIZKID
🎯spot on Twizz & if Uniforms were like 96 in San Antonio in 90 how 🔥 to see him play in Grape 5s in 90.
That shoe is already cult classic from FP. If they would’ve done that we just might’ve seen a proper retro by now (W Laces holes) peace Bro
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💯 Twizz Grape 5s in 1990 & saved black metallics for playoffs. Grapes already legendary, but w the uniform colors from 96 he wore with Columbia 11s would’ve been od ahead of time that he was already ahead of.
In 91 the game was in Charlotte. He could’ve busted them back out instead of the infrared sixes cause we were going to see those for the best championship run I ever seen.
4-4-5 & out …. Lakers got game one on that Sam Perkins, three-pointer and I was it.
Great video like always. I'm watching your channel from almost 8 years and learned a lot from nim. Keep doing what you do and don't apologize for the long video. Greetings from Poland.
Definitely enjoying all the videos regardless of the content. Will be ordering the other hoodies on your since apparel merch, might order on the since 92 shirts as well ;)
I love these longer reviews. We get so much info and detail.
OTD: What is your favorite way to lace your shoes when you're not playing?
Man when you were going over the OG lows, brought me all the way back to sophomore year of HS. And going over the tech of the originals, it made sense why they didn’t last me the summer lol I started playing in them outdoors and burnt through the outsole and midsole so damn fast. And definitely puppies lol
Like always great review, ❤ getting all the details and back story to every shoe you review. I always feel I get honest no hype review.
keep up the content, love your videos!
Pardon my number of comments Chris but I’m so excited to see some more of what Jordan brand has in store for Numbers 15 through 23.
These are definitely a go for me.
High time that the 15s need a retro. As much as hated the shoe was at first, I actually like those.
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Same here , used to call it the Venus flytrap Silhouette, but I look at Obsidian 15s now. Eastbay Pack really would knock OG sneaker community for a loop & shake it up a little bit.
Right now I feel like there’s too much of a cross contamination of influencer that used terms like OG, but have no idea what that means it’s lost all meaning it’s become almost like a colloquialism .
I need the white/ Purple ones Ray Allen’s Bucks PE I’m not picky it can be a GR. It doesn’t need the Ray 34 branding interesting thing about that shoe on the back tab. Is it’s 23-15-6.
23 obviously for his number 15 for the model six for the amount of championships .
It’s really also 999 or 999 they came out in 1999 so look at this.
23= 6 15= 6 & 6 obviously = 6 if invert it it’s 999 definitely don’t believe that was a coincidence tinker is way too detailed for that. He definitely put as Easter egg but I never see anyone catch unless understand numbers.
It’s crazy people were complaining about the $300 retail price. Now they’re reselling for $500-$600
Copped the new 'Since' shirt. Thank for the fun content!
The original wizards colorway you have is what I want to come back out,hope the new update pair comes with the cd.I really want the 22’s colorway to come back,they remind me of a predecessor to the 17’s.especially the ones with the basketball skin color way.
Whoever does the editing on these deserves some sort of trophy...the little Staind clip at the beginning cracked me the f up 😂
Been waiting years for 17s to retro with the case! I used to own the black and white/blue OG pairs when they came out. Would love the lighting lows
I remember the AJ17 I was in the university back in France and I was going to buy them but ended up buying a shoe for myself and a shoe for my sister !
The case grabbed my attention tbh lol
I love the thorough coverage on the shoes
Adidas should have used a case like this for their ADI2000 Blue-Eyes White Dragon Shoes iykyk
Now we need some 21s and 22s
got the OGs in the white and red cw and they came in a red breif case. they were a back to school purchase on tax free weekend. I specifically remember goin to champs, footaction and footlocker before my mother eventually bought em’ for me. even back then the price for those was like double the normal OG retro prices. I remember the salesman at footlocker tellin my mother and I that I could use the breif case to put my toys in when asked by my mother what I was gonna do w it. every other sales man was like… idk when asked that same question. that’s why I ended up gettin my white and red ones from footlocker.
Kittens, but I love both.
More importantly, this is the video I have been waiting almost a month for. The Lightning 17s might be my most anticipated release of 2024. Already have my pair secured and can’t wait for their arrival. As always, I love your videos. When it comes to sneaker channels on RUclips, second place isn’t even close. This teacher thanks you once again for the sneaker education!
Puppies for sure! Got my preorder in as well. Love the channel, the reviews, and the merch! Keep up the great work
Got some real core memories with these pairs, both the OG and the low, despite never owning either lol
OG: back in 6th grade (2002) EVERYBODY was all about the Adidas T-Macs. Everyone, myself included, had a pair. Nike and Jordan weren't as hot back then, especially for signature athlete shoes (VC was the only guy they had at the time iirc). When intramurals came around, everybody was getting ready to hoop and then one of the new-ish kids in school came to the court with a silver suitcase. Everybody was confused until he opened it and pulled out the OG red 17s which no one hade ever seen before. Dude looked like a legit baller and was pretty big for a 12y.o. filipino kid back then. Come jump ball, he won the tip and.....that was about it for his highlights. Dude had 2 left feet and couldn't actually hoop to save his life😂
Lows: next year (2003) was my high school freshman year in a new school. There was a junior at the time who was legit the Michael Jordan of that school. Never lost championship games, held all the scoring records etc and these lightning lows were his pair. The funny thing is is that after every game, before he went home, he would just leave his 17 lows in his locker by the restrooms without locking it. No padlock no nothing. Just threw them in there until the next game. Hell, sometimes he didn't even close the locker all the way. And NO ONE dared to steal 'em. Aside from the fact that we were a small school of about 360 students and everyone would know if you stole something from someone, all the hoopers in school respected TF outta this junior because of his skill and dominance. His 17s were safe because we would rather watch him hoop/play with him than have a shot at some "new" Js😂
If I recall didn't they call the heel Air unit a Blow molded Air unit. I played a lot in the 17s both mids and lows and they were solid performers.
Fun personal fact. When the 17's first dropped I bought just about every colorway both for the mids and the lows. And that was back when $200 was crazy to spend on sneakers. But at that time I didn't have any kids or a wife and all my money was mine LOL
The Air Jordan 16 featured a blow molded Air unit in the heel. Not 100% sure if the AJ17 did but it's possible.
Great review Chris! I didn't care for these when they released in 2002. I like them less now, but the review and presentation was great! Best sneaker channel on YT!
Love the breakdown of the shoe. A lot of you tubers aren't doing it. I didn't know there was and air bubble in the 17s
I remember telling myself that I would never wear these again but nostalgia is a ....! Allergic to cats so puppies all day. Keep grindin'!!
they 17 is underrated design wise. what a gorgeous shoe.
Absolutely love these just not this color way
The padding in the box might be a reference to the sound proof padding in recording studios
Yo that outsole is gorgeous!
The 17's are the best basketball sneaker I've ever played in. I had the first releases of the Wizards home colors and would rock them with my Jordan Wizards jersey. They were so comfortable and had amazing grip. I wore them and played in them so much the glue eventually gave way, that was a sad day for me. I did though hate the lace lock and cover that came with them.
Im definitely a dog dude.
These look really good.
It’s cool to have them back!
💯 I’m much more happy about things like these than most collaborations. Especially TS lows , but then a beautiful, original color way like the shadow one low drops and nobody cares that’s very strange to me. It shows me that they don’t really like Jordan one Lowe’s. They just like that name.
Just like Jordan's missed dunk, I'm going to let these bounce away from me. I always love the shoe breakdowns, I love learning things from your channel! 👨🎓
Had these in grammar school, they looked great with school uniforms lol I do remember them being tight and taking long to break in lol
Would love to get a pair of these. Hope this gives em enough to do the highs next
Thanks for the comparison but I said before the new briefcase is so much bigger lol🙆🏾
I loved this video, the shoes I don’t know. I’m gonna wait till release date and see how I feel about them on that day.
Mannn showing up to middle school with the black 17s and your note books in the suitcase you couldn’t tell me NOTHING!
still a great looking Js...this and the 18s are my two haunted pairs..hopefully they'll release the J21 too..tnx for the review.
The vid was not too long; it was super informative - so it seemed short.
I am on the fence with these shoes! I love the look, think they’re cool - I just wish I could try them on. The thing that sucks about all of these raffles is that if something fits a little wonky, it’s a final sale w/no return.
Puppsters all the way! And definitely the puppy smell has something to do with it 😂 🐾
Jordans past the 14 are quite unique imo although they come with a hefty $$$. The 16-18 are the 3 that I like the most.
Awesome review as always. Will try to grab a pair if these release here in the Ph
I would choose puppies if I had to choose. But can’t say no to both.
TIL that 17s and 18s are square toed just like the 16s (since it so obvious in that model) i always love 16. Maybe i’ll give the 17 a try too since they share the same setup (zoom fore foot, air in the back).
What a great video this is. Thanks for this.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I LOVE THIS
14:36 one of my favourite film is about the cats of Istanbul (it’s Kedi by Ceyda Torun), and one resident of the city says in it it’s because dogs thinks about the humans as gods, but cats are aware of Gods existence. And they are not ungrateful or anything, they just know better Gods will. It’s a great movie, and in Europe it’s available through RUclips premium, if it’s up in the USA as well you should give it a watch imo.
Kittens all the way! And yes we have had both...
I wanted these 17s back in 2002 but we were busy saving to pay off our wedding... now to work out who the heck is stocking these in Oz!
we are always down for a long and detailed video tho!
Don't like 17 lows but I love me some 17 highs...the white/red pair with the red suitcase was incredible...still have those o.g 17 low baby blues n they in alot better shape then the ones shown in this vid
so cool that it came back with the box
Great review
Great video as always! Been excitedly waiting to hear Chris's thoughts on these. Disappointing that they even fell short on the thickness of the leather on this $300 pair, and I agree that they should've worked more on that toe slope. Still easily my most desired sneaker this year, and a personal must-have.
Oops, forgot to answer the question: I'm allergic to both so my real answer is neither, but I prefer kittens.
I had the 17+ with crocodile skin at the heels. Good old days lol!
Wow great info thanks must have on the fence 🤔
I was a bucket in these. I thought they had a dope azz design when I first saw them, had to have um to hoop in. Not gonna get um cause too many above on the list but I love seeing them. ❤
Great video again
I know jb would never do it, but would love if they could switch that poly eurathane out for a cushlon set up. Anyways beautiful shoe and fantastic review as always, appreciate the history on these.
Love the video! Had these back in the day ! I played ball in them they didn’t last! I thinking they had too much plastic! Huge pass for the price and they really don’t go with anything! Keep up the great content!
After all these years of not getting a retro release ain’t nothing to complain about on these at all
Love this “extended” video. I’m pleasantly surprised the flight case came with these but that’s dope!It is interesting they chose not to customize it a little to cut cost and all that space reminds me of the boxes the AJ 12 comes in. 😆 I might be an outlier but I actually enjoyed MJ’s Wizard days. As for the question of the day, KITTENS ALL DAY!!!!!!! I love cats, especially their independence. Team kittens here!! ❤😻