REN & I WERE DISSED?! | Rapper Reacts to Ren - Dumb King Come (My Response)

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  • Ren in battle mode?! Rapper reacts to the creator of Hi Ren & his 'Dumb King Come' diss & breaks down the schemes.
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  • @dawnpatterson8708
    @dawnpatterson8708 Год назад +153

    I was asked, who won this battle?
    My answer.
    Actually, everyone won.
    Because of Ren.

    • @DebbieSandford-1807
      @DebbieSandford-1807 6 месяцев назад +10

      Absofuckinlutely ❤

    • @SofM8920
      @SofM8920 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@DebbieSandford-1807 is this word trade marked by u or can i borrow it?

    • @notmartinlewis
      @notmartinlewis 5 месяцев назад +1

      Football is the winner.

    • @jonathandonohoe7332
      @jonathandonohoe7332 4 месяца назад +4

      youre right, everyone won. but one won more than the other ones won

    • @SofM8920
      @SofM8920 3 месяца назад +2

      @@jonathandonohoe7332 I had a stroke reading that😂 nevertheless it made sense and was very true

  • @michaellavella2377
    @michaellavella2377 Год назад +810

    The thing I love about the kombucha line that I haven't seen anyone mention yet is how it ties back to him butchering the culture. You need a culture (bacteria and yeast) to brew it. So he's not brewing it up because he's got no culture.
    And props to you being the only one who really understood the Of Mice and Men reference. I love how intelligent and educated both you and Ren are.

    • @IFroggy112
      @IFroggy112 Год назад +26

      Ah, now I get it!! Thanks for that - I caught most everything else but kombucha reference stumped me.

    • @HollyB5484
      @HollyB5484 Год назад +20

      OMG thank you!! The kombucha line was the only line I didn't understand because of. his accent. I had no idea what he was saying there til Knox said it and now you explained the deeper meaning to it. I appreciate that.
      Oh btw I'm in America and I did know who Lennie from Of Mice and Men was. I had a teacher who loved John Steinbeck. That and I remember Chris Farley portraying Lennie in an SNL skit at some point.

    • @kazpwright
      @kazpwright Год назад +22

      Brilliant!! I totally missed that bit about the culture. He’s not only a sick puppy, he’s a blooming clever one 😅

    • @analisasmith7927
      @analisasmith7927 Год назад +7

      Thanks for this - mystery solved!

    • @amyf1424
      @amyf1424 Год назад +9

      I KNEW there was something about that line. Thank you, that is what I needed.

  • @ScottMStolz
    @ScottMStolz 6 месяцев назад +31

    "I'm actually sorry about this one." -- Ren

  • @kellie7180
    @kellie7180 Год назад +50

    Most excellent breakdown Knox. Ren never ceases to blow me away on so many levels. As do you, with your intelligent and exact breakdowns creating the most meaningful enjoyment of these artists. I so appreciate you.

    • @kazpwright
      @kazpwright Год назад +1

      He is SO quick on the spot!

  • @clairemanton1178
    @clairemanton1178 29 дней назад +6

    The flowers are very symbolic. White chrysanthemum represents death, fern represents new beginnings and the olive branch represents peace. Even with the flowers he is telling a story and giving a clue of where he is going. Ren is so deep he doesn't do anything in his visuals without it having a meaning. Guys a genius.

    • @jolieakea1640
      @jolieakea1640 13 часов назад +1

      Wow. REN’s on another level. Thanks for this insight though, didn’t catch that. Incredible.

  • @johnramage45
    @johnramage45 10 месяцев назад +3

    Knox your reactions are brilliant, you don't miss any hidden bars or refences even in other videos I noticed you are well versed on some European topics and geography others totally didn't get but you had some understanding of it and the message. Other videos I feel like screaming as they bypass all the creativity and miss so much, when here I can relax and have things I missed shown to myself ❤

  • @davidwilson6577
    @davidwilson6577 20 дней назад +1

    The combustion line is neat. When a star dies, it goes supernova. King Dotta has his own gravity, like a star, when he dies he'll combust.
    Seriously that's a good line.

  • @mattcavanagh5701
    @mattcavanagh5701 Год назад +1

    I’ve literally been waiting for your reaction since this dropped. Love it!

  • @srv2217
    @srv2217 Год назад +9

    Been waiting all WEEKEND for this one

  • @nikita8370
    @nikita8370 Год назад +2

    Wow, came for the score, left with more faith in humanity just from following a rap battle! Guess it was a score! Such an education and a wonderful look inside the minds and hearts of two genuine people. This is what feeding off of positivity looks like. Never would've imagined I'd find it this way. Just goes to show that we get what we need when we need it. ❤

  • @jakedavy6655
    @jakedavy6655 Год назад

    I'll be honest knox, I came across you through another reaction channel in their ren interview. I've then come to you, watched you're ren and NF reactions and loved them. But through that I've seen your drops in the openings and I want to start listening to you... ps I love how you and ren are building each other. One love

  • @kizunadragon9
    @kizunadragon9 5 месяцев назад +2

    when someone brings you down, don't stoop to their level. Challenge them to raise up to yours.

  • @JustHakori
    @JustHakori Год назад +2

    Great break down as always, Knox! I love how Ren did this, roasted Dotta alive then reached out a hand in brotherhood to help him back up. Your tracks were fire as well! Listening to this battle Got me looking at some bits I wrote a little while ago (I write lyrics in various styles as a form of stress relief but never performed any of them heh😅) and my first thought looking at some of the stuff I wrote in a rap ish style was "I think I can rewrite this better." Y'all's pens are inspiring, keep at it man!

  • @airpodboy1186
    @airpodboy1186 Год назад +1

    I've been waiting for this video. You sir did not disappoint

  • @craigchapman916
    @craigchapman916 Год назад

    Hey Knox - a fan from Oz. How cool is Ren (and you). You do have the best reactions to Ren. I appreciate the insight to the rhymes and bars. Just wanted to let you know that you have a fan here.

  • @Shiroar
    @Shiroar Год назад +1

    I was hoping we would get a reaction from you! Love the bromance with Ren. Kindred intelligent artists supporting each other is just lovely. Plus it’s just fun to see you laugh at the sick boi’s humorous bars 😂 Reaction aside, I really like and respect the way you’re calmly explaining your view on the situation. You’re a good man, Knox ❤

  • @ryanmichael457
    @ryanmichael457 Год назад +2

    I 💯 agree with your analysis! This was the best most respectful diss and layup of the year! I hope he takes it and rolls with it and all credit goes to Ren and his genius creative diss track!

  • @IsPuK
    @IsPuK Год назад +9

    Knox... Why did you have books on necromancy?

  • @pweematube29
    @pweematube29 Год назад +1

    As I mentioned on another comment, bagpipe tune is “Amazing Grace”. Knox I wouldn’t put it past Ren to use this tune as the first verse to this bagpipe tune is: “Amazing grace how sweet the sound, that saved a wretch like me! I once was lost, but now I’m found; Was blind, but now I see.” Big respect for you and RENs work. Awesome fella. Keep the faith. 😊

  • @reallifealbundy
    @reallifealbundy Год назад +3

    Michelleshow warned us early on he will be using that mind stone and creating great content for RUclips to watch. You and Ren dropped great diss tracks that everyone loves which created such a buzz everyone is reacting to it because diss tracks is hiphop and everyone loves hiphop. He even made Dotta believe he was capable of doing damage which is hilarious.

  • @chasmorgan22
    @chasmorgan22 7 месяцев назад +1

    I love your reactions, and because REN I love your music. ❤

  • @kylene27
    @kylene27 Год назад

    I wish that someone would talk more about the direct response aspect of this in the context of a live rap battle. Lot's of love for a lot of yhe bars, but I haven seen anyone talk about how much of this was directly responding to lines from the original diss ... including the set up for the "royal flush" zinger starting with Dotta's bar about cannibalism.

    • @kylene27
      @kylene27 Год назад

      Having said that, I was really hoping you would do a response for this and not only did you not disappoint, you spoke about the whole situation way more than I expected. Thanks for doing your thing and staying true to yourself, both in your disses and in your continuing journey to i.prove yourself, your community and the world. MUCH Love.

  • @Valkaneer
    @Valkaneer 5 месяцев назад +1

    Funny no one looking at this seems to know what song Ren is playing at the end. It's song is "Amazing Grace", frequently played at Church and at funerals. Which either it could be taken that indeed Ren is playing this as a funeral or that he had grace on Dotta, just like God had grace on the sinner. Since Ren's whole response comically was both, I see the song as just that, it was meant to be both.

  • @michaelgoyettemusic
    @michaelgoyettemusic Год назад +1

    Dude you’re the king of breaking down bars…as a reactor for the past 6 months myself, I look up to you…..I’ve watched you for years….I’d love to be part of the reaction club you speak of……are you accepting any new reactors? 😊❤ hahaha cheers my man.

  • @babylizards2309
    @babylizards2309 Год назад

    Huge respect to you man. You won me over with this. I'm now a follower and I'm exited to see your work.

  • @Matt-eu3pn
    @Matt-eu3pn 3 месяца назад +1

    Ignorance is formed in the womb of monsters!!!!! OH MY GOD!!!!! WHAT A FKN TRUTH. Did dotta come back to at least say thank you for the lyrical lesson????

  • @sarah-janehenson5376
    @sarah-janehenson5376 Год назад +1

    Insightful my brother. Fuck this division and all this other shit that blinds ppl to what's really going on. Thanks Knox

  • @manditoon9627
    @manditoon9627 Год назад

    I love how close you and Ren have got man x genuine friends haven't seen you laugh so much 😂👍

  • @sicmuvva11
    @sicmuvva11 Год назад

    The bagpipes are playing Amazing grace and that is what Ren showed this guy. Ren is a class act!

  • @pennyroyalt2542
    @pennyroyalt2542 11 месяцев назад

    The flowers all had meaning behind them. Death, rebirth and peace if I got it right.
    Although am half asleep atm.
    Huge respect from the UK. ✌️

  • @markafcb
    @markafcb Год назад +1

    And that right there is why I subscribe to Knox. He’s not just an amazing rapper and MC, but a proper gentleman.

  • @analisasmith7927
    @analisasmith7927 Год назад +2

    Ren isn’t a saint but he strives to say and do the right thing - that’s why we love him! Proud of you too! X PS if Dotta tries another diss track, my sub to him will vaporise asap

  • @schulme123
    @schulme123 Год назад +2

    "I'm staying grounded when I grind up my beef"

  • @chalsey224
    @chalsey224 Год назад

    You and Ren are class acts, this has been fun!
    Just watched The Lone Rager check out your killshot remix on stream and now this, what a beautiful Monday 🥰🥳

  • @waxingmiracle
    @waxingmiracle Год назад +1

    Ren showed his hand and went all in with that royal flush.

  • @FreckledAngelz
    @FreckledAngelz Год назад

    This breakdown is badass so informative in ways I couldn’t have noticed… brilliance thee whole damn thing is brilliant

  • @JoeYo77
    @JoeYo77 6 месяцев назад +1

    I think Ren proved he can rap better than Dotta and I’m actually glad he offered a life line. He’s an awesome person and deserves all the success he’s having and he is only at the tip of the iceberg because he’s going to be a MEGA STAR! Now I went to Dotta’s page to look at his Ren reaction so I could see how petty he would be so I could unload on him but to my surprise he gave a legit reaction that was informative! He has 3 of 4 Ren reactions and gives him high praise and idk if it’s because Ren gave him an olive branch or if it’s because he really feels that way, but if he can listen to his reaction, it sounds pretty sincere, and he does drop some knowledge as well. So I actually subscribed on his page for him, taking the highroad and accepting the olive branch that ran gave to him and for being authentic the reviews of Renz videos that he reacted to. Now it’s obvious you got a little more anger towards him and that’s understandable from all that you said in this video. I’m glad that he didn’t try and make another diss track towards Ren If you haven’t watched his reviews of friends songs, I think you should check them out it might change your opinion of him. Either way I love your channel and I know this is an old video so maybe you already have done what I’m suggesting. If you still think he’s an asshole, that’s understandable but if you follow Ren lead, I think that would be cool because I think deep down he really is a decent dude. I think Dotta is taking the high road but I don’t know all the intricacies of the situation. I don’t know if Donna actually has the skills to put together a fire track, but I give them props as a reviewer because he has pretty interesting perspective.

  • @jameslowther9792
    @jameslowther9792 Год назад

    You are truly a beautiful person, that Dotta Gotta appreciate you. keep doing your thing, we love it!

  • @andrewcarr4201
    @andrewcarr4201 Год назад

    Bro I’m shocked on that break down in a great way that was so on point!!!! Glad to be a fan

  • @Caps78
    @Caps78 Год назад +1

    Ren is a genius. Dude is a legit savage 😂 definitely a brilliant mind. I'd love a Knox Ren album. I know I'm greedy lol but 1 record of these 2 great minds isn't enough need 12

  • @karenhayes5069
    @karenhayes5069 Год назад

    The bagpipes are playing "Amazing Grace " which is what Ren has in spades

  • @fixedgear9334
    @fixedgear9334 Год назад +1

    The Michelle show lines were hilarious, it reminded me of when michelle show called chainz a cartoon when reacting to the mgk diss called the real rap devil. He only listen to a part of it then insulted chainz and ended the reaction. I thought it hilarious because Michelle show actually looks like a cartoon😂

  • @ReneeClay-um2kl
    @ReneeClay-um2kl 22 дня назад

    I will say your second drop slay that man on his level it was beautiful actually kudos to you

  • @tezzah94
    @tezzah94 Год назад +1

    Respect 🙏

  • @brat.attack.photography
    @brat.attack.photography 11 месяцев назад +1

    @RenMakesMusic dude straight savage AF are you an Aquarius anywhere in your chart because Im picking up King of Swords energy straight savage and tongue sharp as a sword. I love it. 😂 As well as being kind enough and caring about community enough to offer to uplift Dotta after showing him you ain't scart!

  • @carad2008
    @carad2008 Год назад

    Love you Knox, no 'thing' can cancel you ever

  • @blakec8549
    @blakec8549 Год назад +1

    He didnt kill KD with kindness. He handed him the torch and dared him not to trip.

  • @kipper2626
    @kipper2626 10 месяцев назад

    👏👏👏👏👏👏
    I found you through being a fan of Ren and I'm really glad about that- you hit the nail on the head every time. 🫶

  • @notthatdrew5818
    @notthatdrew5818 Год назад

    Thank you Knox, we appreciate you!

  • @X-Stream24
    @X-Stream24 Год назад +487

    Knox and Ren need to make a track together

    • @nenasadie
      @nenasadie Год назад +35

      That would be so fire the sun would make a diss track in response.

    • @vixenbabyy
      @vixenbabyy Год назад +12

      I wish I could like this comment 1000 times. I would love to see this come true.

    • @FixTheLanes
      @FixTheLanes Год назад +4

      I would buy 100 copies

    • @jasonratcliffe3137
      @jasonratcliffe3137 Год назад +2

      That is a great idea. 😊

    • @elizabethcox1553
      @elizabethcox1553 Год назад +1

      That would be awesome

  • @NBLDMN
    @NBLDMN Год назад +246

    Knox you are a damn Gentleman and a Scholar, Sir. And also a cold blooded assassin when someone tries to hurt your community and there is nothing to say but respect. Its seen and felt by every member and thats why we are here and thats why we fuck with you. Thank you. Truly

  • @wendyweedwhacker
    @wendyweedwhacker Год назад +760

    Ren's sense of humour is something that has gone highly underappreciated. It is a big part of why his story telling and lyricism is so relatable and human. He provides us with comic relief we all need in moments of the darkest reflection on the human condition.

    • @genevievebills5227
      @genevievebills5227 Год назад +9

      YES!

    • @catsandcrafts171
      @catsandcrafts171 Год назад +32

      He really is such a funny guy, isn't he? Dark humour mostly. I notice with a lot of reactors from the US, a lot of the British humour goes by un-noticed,

    • @wendyweedwhacker
      @wendyweedwhacker Год назад +17

      @@catsandcrafts171 ya, I'm a Canadian and I think we get more UK content and literature here, so he's effing hilarious to me. ... Eg. Monty Python was a staple in my house growing up. British humour is probably my favourite. 😆

    • @chrisseiler42
      @chrisseiler42 Год назад +32

      I remember hearing hi Ren for the first time (my intro to Ren) and thinking he even gives his evil side a sense of humor. I liked that. I appreciate his sense of humor so much. I need as much humor as I can get. I’m an old lady trying to get my strength back. Inspired by Ren. And Knox helps me make sure I don’t miss anything!❤❤

    • @wendyweedwhacker
      @wendyweedwhacker Год назад

      @@chrisseiler42 100%

  • @sammichvonpotato
    @sammichvonpotato Год назад +742

    There are so many reaction videos on RUclips to Ren’s diss track, but regardless of whether Dotta (or Michelle Show) respond, it’s Knox’s reaction that matters the most.
    What an absolute hero taking inspiration from Ren, trying to build others up, and the most comprehensive breakdown of this rap out there! Much love and respect to you, Knox 🙏 🔥

  • @Sjudit84
    @Sjudit84 5 месяцев назад +60

    What I love about this diss too that Ren now sees Knox as his friend that he will stand up for. What a story this turned out to be from reacting to Hi Ren to all the way here and further!

  • @ABGABGABG1
    @ABGABGABG1 Год назад +482

    Knox is a legend these days, keep killing it homie.

    • @Henry4ever
      @Henry4ever Год назад +4

      ... with all my blessings ! 😊🎉

  • @jeffdavidson3975
    @jeffdavidson3975 Год назад +182

    Knox, I’m so glad I found you through Ren. You’ve taught me a lot about rap, as I used to think it was trash. But now, I keep a much more open mind and I can enjoy it. Have a great day!

  • @MissMeKate
    @MissMeKate Год назад +219

    Who knew you could resurrect someone by tapdancing on their grave? Ren, apparently.
    I was sceptical about all this but you and Ren made me laugh so much with your tracks, and I love that you've both done positive things with it. I hope Dotta does the sameand moves on to creating not dissing.

    • @ramdomguyfiftychars
      @ramdomguyfiftychars Год назад +16

      I guess those necromancy books did him some good

    • @DukeOfTwist
      @DukeOfTwist Год назад +7

      Classic Welsh Jig

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 Год назад +5

      @@DukeOfTwist
      (That's an Irish jig..... You want Chinchilla for that)

    • @DukeOfTwist
      @DukeOfTwist Год назад +8

      @@rogerstarkey5390 I'm aware its Irish but its a Welshman doing it. lol

    • @Alan_Duval
      @Alan_Duval Год назад +1

      I think that Beetlejuice did, too :D

  • @MurkW00d
    @MurkW00d Год назад +252

    A few things to add: the bagpipes are traditionally played at the start and end of royal proclamations. The flowers are important too, the language of flowers gives
    white chrysanthemum - death, grief
    Ferns - sorrow
    Olive - peace, reconciliation, victory
    Even in the first shot Ren is showing where the track is going ❤

    • @bodyfarmbrat
      @bodyfarmbrat Год назад +9

      THIS

    • @NixyRose72
      @NixyRose72 Год назад +37

      And the bagpipes are playing "Amazing Grace." I don't know if it is an actual point, but Ren absolutely showed grace and class in his ending message. Ren is a good man. Maybe too good for this broken world. I hope he's not too late. We need to listen and actually hear him. I wish more would. 😊💜

    • @CLad-nc1ox
      @CLad-nc1ox Год назад +32

      Also like to add context of Amazing Grace written by John Newton 1772 a former slave trader's message about forgiveness and redemption is always possible.

    • @NixyRose72
      @NixyRose72 Год назад +14

      @CLad-nc1ox oooh thank you for that info! Even more and deeper into Ren's mind we go! I don't think most of us (I know i sure don't) have the capacity to fully understand every level. He's like top of the tier. I'm smart enough, but OMG I feel like a stumbling toddler trying to learn trigonometry. I can dive in and feel and learn and even relate to so many levels (pain, depression, misdiagnosis, suicide survivor and lost friends, medication game, dv survivor is a few of my connections...) but I doubt I'll ever be able to grasp them all. But I can feel and absolutely feel less alone and less broken. He's reaching all ages and all demographics.

    • @kyosuke423
      @kyosuke423 Год назад +2

      Pin to the top

  • @marissaconklin5098
    @marissaconklin5098 Год назад +169

    Excited for this!! You and Ren are now my two favorite rappers (when I never had a favorite before; didn’t think the genre was for me) thanks for showing me that rap can be hard, but nuanced, and can send a powerful uplifting message, even in a battle rap :)

  • @phillevin6651
    @phillevin6651 Год назад +250

    Rens flowers had Chrysanthemums.. death. Ferns, humility, and olive branches, reconciliation. A giveaway right from the start. Rens attention to detail is above and beyond.
    Knox you caught all the bars that so many missed. The Daft punk, Rage and Lenny references.. you da man. Hats off to you, even other reactors mention your name as in “I can’t wait to see Knoxs’ breakdown.”

    • @kazpwright
      @kazpwright Год назад +5

      I think Amazing Grace has an interesting back story including slaves and those in the slave trade back in the day. Ren would’ve known that too.

    • @lannawolf1864
      @lannawolf1864 8 месяцев назад +2

      Ferns also symbolize rebirth.

    • @DebbieSandford-1807
      @DebbieSandford-1807 6 месяцев назад

      Absolutely right - totally

  • @TheBorderRyker
    @TheBorderRyker Год назад +164

    Knox and Ren are genuine and speak with integrity. When Dotta came for Knox and Ren he had no idea who he was messing with. I am so proud to be following such great role models. For Ren to be able to completely bury Dotta and then to turn it around and show firstly that it’s not personal but then to lift him up and tell his own followers to show Dotta respect and follow him is incredible. Much love from a very proud fan, Knox. 🙏🏻😎🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
    P.S. If you happen to read this Dotta I wish you the best. Peace ✊🏼

    • @jameydupuy9280
      @jameydupuy9280 5 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah, he totally showed him he had the talent and skills to destroy him, instead of leaving it at that, he slung some grace on him and gave him an opportunity to redeem himself without losing face. Ren is throwing life lessons out to anyone with the sense to grab on. Wow. He blows my mind at every turn. This kid has magic.

  • @slcncr
    @slcncr Год назад +71

    Because my mother language is not english ( i`m German ), i didn´t catch all the things and deeper meanings Ren put in his response.
    So *thank you* Knox for this complete and very intelligent analysis of everything that is being said. It makes me appreciate and love Ren even more,
    makes me realize how intelligent, wise, funny, uplifting, loving he really is. Both of you are great examples of good character, honesty, dignity, humanity.
    Thank you !

    • @zed4225
      @zed4225 Год назад +4

      Great english, spot on in your message❤ (visited Germany a couple of times, beautiful forests, another love of mine)

  • @juliem660
    @juliem660 Год назад +71

    Nice catch of the "flowers". Another double meaning: the video started w/ funeral march of Amazing Grace... & ended with Amazing Grace being exhibited by Ren. When we respond with Grace... like you & Ren did with this... it generates a container that invites transformation, so all concerned... all who witness it... can enter into that state of mind. It's humbling to witness ... and sparks joy in the hearts of your audience. Thank you!

    • @sammyd8860
      @sammyd8860 Год назад +14

      Another layer to Amazing Grace is that it was written by someone who had been involved in the slave trade, who found redemption in God and then worked/campaigned to abolish slavery. When sinners repent, they can find redemption ...

    • @cathykasaback3728
      @cathykasaback3728 Год назад +4

      Brilliant insight, love this!

    • @michaelmacdonald334
      @michaelmacdonald334 Год назад +1

      It took me some searching to find your comment, as I was going to say the same thing.
      So now I'm commenting to help raise the engagement in hopes/chances of Knox Hill seeing this and learning something he didn't know, or flagging something that he missed.

  • @dragonfire1842
    @dragonfire1842 Год назад +66

    Ren is so gifted. Even if Dotta continues to try and build his numbers with diss rap, there is zero way he will get support if he goes after Ren again, and it would be career suicide if he did. Especially where Ren just offered him a hand up. If Dotta wants to rise, he now has a fork in the road and can choose which path to take, something rarely offered in the game of rap; Dotta can choose diss (or hate) rap, or encouragement, hope, rap. This is Ren's world and people are hungry for it.

    • @DanKaschel
      @DanKaschel 11 месяцев назад

      I think this misses the point a little bit. Neither Ren nor Knox were trying to discredit diss rap as an art form. If they did, then they would be hypocrites. Dotta’s choice is (was) to capitalize on this opportunity (and behave respectfully under this new scrutiny) or just be bitter about being bested.

  • @DenTweed
    @DenTweed Год назад +77

    He played the game, excelled at it, and then pulled it all back into his own way, organically. It's a masterclass imo. The end might not be completely in the "spirit of Battle rap" but imo actually questioning that and flipping it into his spirit/beliefs just is *chef's kiss*.

  • @rickrack4812
    @rickrack4812 Год назад +15

    KILLING him Softly With His Song

  • @andyx25
    @andyx25 Год назад +106

    I'm telling you guys, Ren is kindness personified and kindness is unbeatable!

    • @zed4225
      @zed4225 Год назад +3

      Love this, 100 my brother

  • @nenasadie
    @nenasadie Год назад +65

    No matter how many reactions I've watched, the meal isn't over until we see this. So excited to hear your thoughts.

  • @glitterxgore6943
    @glitterxgore6943 Год назад +25

    God the more I see of Ren the more I freaking appreciate him as a human being. What an amazing person he is.

  • @coryboatz4434
    @coryboatz4434 Год назад +93

    "Little steak on my plate, youre starting beef but its butchered" can also be interpreted as a "little stake", as in not much to gain by responding to the beef, thats been already butchered. Absolutely brilliant

    • @jacks9624
      @jacks9624 Год назад +26

      Dotta referred to Ren as "a dish the Universe served him", that "steak" line also responded to that. As all "fat dissing" is a response to Dotta calling Ren "too skinny to lift bars"

  • @awr2024
    @awr2024 7 месяцев назад +11

    "If there's war in the east industries are getting paid . If there's war is the streets there's a mother and a grave." Speaks Volumes.

  • @FixTheLanes
    @FixTheLanes Год назад +72

    Fire response Knox, I already have massive respect for you and your artistry, but that piece at the end just pushed it over the top. Keep being you man.❤

  • @MsMichelleangel
    @MsMichelleangel 6 месяцев назад +5

    Bagpipes at the end, playing Amazing Grace

  • @candacemay7187
    @candacemay7187 Год назад +46

    The bagpipes are playing "Amazing Grace" - the very essence of Ren. Good job Knox and Ren!!

  • @Vintage.EvenStar
    @Vintage.EvenStar Год назад +58

    I love Ren killing with kindness. Spreading the love around and shaking up the status quo. Thank you for holding your own with grace. We desperately need more olive branches in this wild world. 🖤

  • @elizabethgregory7998
    @elizabethgregory7998 Год назад +27

    The bagpipe is playing Amazing Grace. Ren has shown amazing grace in how he responded to Dotta!

  • @sbegley7947
    @sbegley7947 6 месяцев назад +5

    I know I'm late to the party on this one. But still needs to be said...
    You and Ren are so genius... talented, educated and so sophisticated. I love that you're an example of how to take a punch, give a punch and help your opponent up off the floor.
    Classy❤❤❤

  • @charliebradbury3450
    @charliebradbury3450 Год назад +18

    By BF and his dad are HARD core into old school rap and hip hop. When this battle started they didn't know who y'all were except for me randomly talking about you or Ren but I got so excited and louder with each step they decided to listen to show me how bad you were.... They were NOT impressed with Dotta but you picked up 2 new subs from them and I won an argument about Rap! 😂 keep moving this game proper!

    • @zed4225
      @zed4225 Год назад +3

      Love it 🔥

  • @coreyms
    @coreyms Год назад +51

    Thiiiis the one I been waitin for. Let’s go

  • @CherylAwh
    @CherylAwh Год назад +100

    You are a class act all the way Knox. Keep pushing positivity and community. That's what this world needs more than ever.

  • @0Onyx13
    @0Onyx13 Год назад +8

    Also, “I’m a sick puppy” like from illest of our times, “I’m a sick little puppy who gets lucky when he speaks” so many layers in each song, his raps are onions 😂

  • @Jai-uk
    @Jai-uk Год назад +46

    Thank you both. I have had so much fun watching reactors the past few days my jaw’s aching from the grin. Knowing sweet FA about rap/battle rap and the history it’s been a real education too. If only school was this much fun. Love to you both.

  • @chaioticneutral8880
    @chaioticneutral8880 Год назад +36

    just gotta say man, that stan diss was masterful

  • @garygreen1782
    @garygreen1782 Год назад +19

    Ren disarmed him. Genius. He couldn't snipe back at Ren as he would have looked like the biggest fanny ever. Clever Ren. The bouquet also contained ferns and olive branch for sincerity and peace. Some botanist pointed that one out; the themes of the rap.

  • @kristiansavov6528
    @kristiansavov6528 Год назад +15

    Ren is a genius, Dotta is just another rapper. There is no battle... Good reaction, Dude! Best wishes from Bulgaria, Europe! Cheers!🥃

  • @BruceW-mw1ng
    @BruceW-mw1ng Год назад +25

    You're growth is impeccable. You've grinded and hustled for years and it's so good to see it paying off. Your skill as a rapper, your clout as a reactor/breakdown master, and your loyalty to keeping it real is 💯 respectable. Keep at it, brother. You're on your way up and the peak is going to be epic ✌️

  • @gurulimbo
    @gurulimbo Год назад +13

    “If you can lift others up to places they couldn’t reach, then your rewards can be much more than you can earn in a week”
    Ren should start doing TED Talks.
    👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🔥😎

    • @serendipitish
      @serendipitish Год назад +3

      And that line is from Love Music Part 1, one of the oldest tracks in his catalog -- Ren wrote that when he was TWENTY, if not before! This was his character long before he ever got his recent success, before he got signed to Sony, before he got sick and lost his dreams and was forced to a wisdom and perspective beyond his years. The rising tide that is currently lifting all channels it touches has been part of Ren's nature all along. ❤

  • @jameydupuy9280
    @jameydupuy9280 5 месяцев назад +3

    I fuc&ing love REN!! He's out there slinging Grace! ❤ I am a 47 Mom/ new grandmother totally fan girling on this kid. He has more depth than most frauds prancing around self grandizing themselves. Look at Ren showing people humanity, humility, and courage! Damn. I haven't been inspired by music since the 90s. Ren has reawoken my love for music that all these past one dimension writers never could. [As I said I'm older and my phone screen is hard to see so ignore 'mom typos' and pull out your decoder rings 😂] it has been a very long time and many many years that i have been interested in any musicians out there. This guy is tops. Adore him! Everything he does! Even music I said years ago that i wasnt fond of, he pulls it out his back pocket and i am like OMG-squeel! This guy has it and will go far and many generations from now, they will still be looking back at his lyric and music. Damn this kid has talent coming from everywhere! Total fan girl. It has been a long long time! Thanks Ren. I feel alive again. You pulled me out the drugery, my ears perked up, and I am grateful for all you put out there that benefits us all. ❤ Big love!

  • @deviouskris3012
    @deviouskris3012 Год назад +19

    I love the reference back to Dota’s Diss like “Homie or a homicide” and answering it with “Brother or another collision”.
    Also that bagpipes are playing Amazing Grace. Exactly what Ren brings to this.

  • @mauraleib
    @mauraleib Год назад +28

    Enlightening analysis of the whole situation. Also, as always, you caught quite a few things in REN’s diss that no one else has. It is strange that a person who has made a career out of stirring up controversy would pick you and REN to take shots at - didn’t he even notice that you’re two of the most upstanding gentlemen in the game? ❤

  • @scurvyelephant333
    @scurvyelephant333 Год назад +28

    This is all just damn delightful. We should send Dotta a thank you basket.

    • @cezra833
      @cezra833 Год назад +15

      just don't put any cake in it!

    • @kylene27
      @kylene27 Год назад

      ​@@cezra833brilliant

  • @StephenDamroth
    @StephenDamroth 6 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you both for the analysis which filled in the field which would have been full of craters of misshearing to my dyslexic ears without it, but mostly, thank you for having Ren's back. That's why I subscribed here.
    I truly believe that Ren is inspired and is directed by a Light which few others can sense in any way, and he not only can give it voice, but also act in accordance with it as he shows in this. He proves that he can scrap with words, but then offers to help his opponents back to their feet and even asks his fans to return compassion. The kid is special, precious for the service and grace that he shows to all of our human tribe, and he's proving also that he can "walk the walk" relative his message by returning brotherly love to his attacker. I really hope that he changes this world, because I'd much rather live in his vision of it's potential

  • @ArctophileGA
    @ArctophileGA Год назад +10

    Ren gave Dotta a blessing and a curse. Now he's got a shot to try to impress Ren's fans but he can't do that if he's going to keep putting out diss tracks. He needs to put out something that Ren's fans will appreciate or he'll lose them and this opportunity.

    • @iangirvan8141
      @iangirvan8141 Год назад

      Facts! I'm not sure Dotta appreciates the magnitude of the task he's set for himself.

  • @Crimson_Moon_Raven
    @Crimson_Moon_Raven Год назад +19

    Knox! This is fun! You guys are awesome,and wholesome especially with the necromancy 😂 😂😂 ✌🏻❤️

  • @anandasouthard7760
    @anandasouthard7760 Год назад +5

    Knox, I bet you got straight A’s in English and history when you were in school! You never miss a literary reference or cultural/historical reference and you know your politics too! I commented something similar on another video, but I want a Knox and Ren reading list! I want to know what y’all’s favorite books are. We need a book club with Knox doing the plot breakdown!

  • @susanne1292
    @susanne1292 Год назад +22

    Love your breakdowns, you and Ren are a superb tag team⭐️

  • @AudioVile
    @AudioVile Год назад +7

    This might be my favorite quote of the year. Seriously... "If I pander to my ego then I'm just another slave... a casualty of vanity... hate just breeds hate..." This man is a genius who has made the conscious choice to bring as much good into the World as he can. He turns a diss battle into a call for brotherhood and unity while encouraging the other rapper to consider doing GOOD rather than continuing the nastiness. Wow. Just f-ing WOW. Okay, now for my "Knox Hill comment." What a KILLER reaction. More of an analysis and explanation video. I subscribed to you immediately when I saw your reaction to Hi Ren. Your knowledge and understanding of rap opened my eyes to the complexities and creativity behind (good) rap. The way you explained what Ren was doing in this video was superb. I'd heard it only two times prior, and I was missing something. Make that thingS. Plural. I had a general sense of the meaning, but I had no clue about MOST of the 'sneakier' references to other artists and other songs. Fantastic reaction!! You certainly affirmed my suspicion that you are bright AND intuitive! Thanks! Now I can comment on OTHER reactors videos of this and sound like I'm the smartest one in the room. "The pinnacle of my success is stealing other people's material." 😉

  • @jsims44
    @jsims44 Год назад +14

    I heard Dotta interviewed on Red Top and he said he loved REN’s approach and his nod to the battle culture with the acapella theatrics. If I hadn’t followed the whole saga, I thought he came across chill.
    Then he mentioned you; slightly different dialogue. I don’t have to say anything; next thing you know I’ll be challenged to a battle. Although I’ve been in plenty of battles, but they weren’t lyrical lol
    Good stuff lately brother. Keep it up 🫡🤘

    • @geraldinepoet5292
      @geraldinepoet5292 Год назад +3

      He did say he would respond to Knox's tracks but I hope he see's this and takes a different path, it'd be hard to see where support would come from if he does

  • @alisonmiles6175
    @alisonmiles6175 Год назад +25

    You and Ren are class acts. Very talented artists. RIP Dotta and Michelle.

  • @garychap8384
    @garychap8384 Год назад +16

    Battle rap with that Ren twist. Knock you down, lift you up and challenge you to be better. Gives the knowledge, the wisdom AND the tools. Damn!
    Ren is the rap messiah. Great reaction Knox, you guys BOTH really brought it. You guys were so great that Dotta finally broke 2k subs. LOL. Now he just needs to get a cheque. Hey, the man got rent to pay. XD