It's not even just nascar, almost every media is using nostalgia as a cheap gimmick to keep older fans while completely forgetting what it made it good. They should double down and give us the old cars back and get rid of the weird gimmicky rules and points or not do it all. Nascar is trying to balance pleasing old fans that already left and casual new zoomer fans while failing at both.
3:02 oh wow, a track with 2 dates isn’t working out? Not surprised. That’s one of the reasons why I don’t like 2 track race dates a year for any big major racing series.
I personally have no problems with the return North Wilkesboro or Brickyard 400 or even Bowman Gray. The problems I see here stems with NASCAR itself being enslaved to what TV networks want. Later start times, more commercial TV yellows like with stages, the current playoff format that doesn't get uptick in viewership/ratings, changing the exhibition races, and many of the gimmicks. Then Cup car itself is utterly a disaster outside of multi groove tracks.
With that, I have to spend my money on all the tv services/ subscriptions, preventing me from attending races in person. I have to purchase HBO next year for the in car cameras. It’s exhausting
My main gripe for NASCAR's use of nostalgia, is that you cannot watch a Daytona 500 without seeing the footage of the 1979 "fight" over and over....and over again. That was 45 years ago....to promote a current race?
Yall wanted NASCAR to return to its roots. Its doing that with the return of NWB, Bowman Grey, and possibly Rockingham,and yall complain. I swear this is all the fans do nowadays
@@JakeSimRacingforgive me if I'm wrong but isn't Rockingham more raced like a speedway? Whenever I play it in 04 you go from 135mph to about 185mph then back down to 135 again? The tire falloff feels more like Darlington than Richmond or martainsville
I find that ironic because they still try to be less about racing and more about WWE and ball sports on wheels to please casuals who only care about gimmicks and crashes and ignore pure auto racing fans who knows how auto racing works. I don’t have a problem with North Wilkesboro’s return because an iconic track like NWS should stay in business and, Brickyard 400 should always be on the oval, and as for Bowman Gray Stadium…. I’m skeptical, but I know NASCAR would ruin it with their gimmicks and BS.
NASCAR lost the fans when they went to the playoffs. The pure raw stats show that. Then they got rid of short tracks for cookie cutter 1.5 mile tracks. Finally a driver said recently that NASCAR cannot compete with the NFL and the schedule should be modified!! I agree, and the playoffs should be dumped completely!!
I live 10 mins away and go to Bowman Gray every weekend. This gives back to the community where it all started. Going back to N.Wilkesboro was awesome. I was there when the Cars Tour w Dale Jr went back for the first time and it was electric. It’s a huge positive for the community. NASCAR owes us this from starting the stupid ass playoffs and stages.
The playoffs are exactly what ruined NASCAR. That’s why I stopped following them in favor of INDYCAR because IndyCar actually has good racing and a great format for the championship.
I’ve done the same as well. For many years NASCAR was unquestionably my favorite sport, but the last few years it’s shifted towards IndyCar, IMSA and even F1 being more of my favorites than NASCAR. A full season points championship is incredible for motorsport.
People talk about Larson vs Verstappen now. The problem with the format is how fluky it is. Larson is quite possibly the driver with the most raw talent in the history of the sport, he’d be lucky to get 3 champions out of this format
With the rumors about Rockingham returning to the Xfinity and/or Truck series, I'm really not surprised NASCAR decided to delve into the Bowman Gray market as well.
the same problem is happening in F1 in terms of them wanting to go to more USA GP events. rotate the events on the calendar and it would be a huge help to how attendance has fallen off
I think you underestimate the colossal greed and conniving planning by the France family to enrich themselves with NASCAR at the expense of fans, drivers, teams, and essentially everyone that’s not paying them
Since nobody on the internet can say anything positive about current NASCAR: The current Xfinity car is the single greatest car NASCAR has ever created. Truck series Playoff racing is incredible. Ratings have stagnated for the first time in decades. Only reason they havent been up is because of major races getting impacted by weather. Say what you want about racing but the Jeff Gluck polls don't lie. It will never be perfect, but the sport is heading in the right direction.
I don't care , am new I like roadcources, I and a lot of new fans would like roadcources. Just do what f1 is doing with there tires and poof the issues are gone. You can't stop dirty air man it will keep existing. Having 1 race date per track is the best thing Nascar can do to help attendance. The playoffs keep younger fans engaged especially with our low attention span.
JakeSimRacing, think you're a little off on this one. Think the real reason for the move to Bowman Gray is twofold, first is due to money. It is cheaper to use a prebuilt track than having to rebuild one every year. Second reason is politics. CA is far left, and they basically want to kill off the automobile as we know them. With a law stating no new car with a combustion engine can be sold in CA by 2035. Think that was part of the reason Nascar took the actions they did, with closing down Auto Club and going over to a rental model with the Coliseum, in hopes that policy would change. Unfortunately over that time CA has double down on that kind of policy(ie going after people with vintage/classic cars) and Nascar is pulling out. As for the Nostalgia aspect I would say that is more of a bonus. As to your point Nascar has always has been a regional sport, that started gaining national attention in the 80s due to media & sponsorship. The problem with that it was almost a case of too much too fast, and the leadership felt like they had to push to get into larger markets. As we have seen since the 80s most larger markets, might boost ratings/attendance for the first few races but not over years or even decades.
Hopefully with Trump coming back, intent to reopen the pipeline, the big 3 automakers get screwed and lose a shit ton of money doubling down on electric cars! I'll laugh my ass off at ther misfortunes!
Get rid of the Clash and Keep the All Star Race, but have it after the Last Race of the Season Abroad. And also all Tracks Deserve 1 Date, The only ones that need a Second Date are Daytona, Charlotte and Indianapolis, but all of them on the Road Course
I agree with most of what you have said. And let's go back to letting boys be boys and stop this nonsense about "a clean race". What do we have a bunch of 80 year old grandma's racing. Daytona and Talladega are boring...take the restrictor plates off, put a big spoiler (or some kind of turbulence generator) on the back to make pack racing difficult and eliminate that yellow line rule but expand the lower line so we get back to racing instead of just a 38 car parade.
It's not even just nascar, almost every media is using nostalgia as a cheap gimmick to keep older fans while completely forgetting what it made it good. They should double down and give us the old cars back and get rid of the weird gimmicky rules and points or not do it all. Nascar is trying to balance pleasing old fans that already left and casual new zoomer fans while failing at both.
3:02 oh wow, a track with 2 dates isn’t working out?
Not surprised. That’s one of the reasons why I don’t like 2 track race dates a year for any big major racing series.
I personally have no problems with the return North Wilkesboro or Brickyard 400 or even Bowman Gray. The problems I see here stems with NASCAR itself being enslaved to what TV networks want. Later start times, more commercial TV yellows like with stages, the current playoff format that doesn't get uptick in viewership/ratings, changing the exhibition races, and many of the gimmicks. Then Cup car itself is utterly a disaster outside of multi groove tracks.
With that, I have to spend my money on all the tv services/ subscriptions, preventing me from attending races in person. I have to purchase HBO next year for the in car cameras. It’s exhausting
My main gripe for NASCAR's use of nostalgia, is that you cannot watch a Daytona 500 without seeing the footage of the 1979 "fight" over and over....and over again.
That was 45 years ago....to promote a current race?
nice to always see videos like this from more smaller channels. always agree with your points!
I appreciate it. Thank you!
1:50 What makes it worse is the fact that short-track racing has been at its worst since I don't know, maybe gen-4 or something?
Yall wanted NASCAR to return to its roots. Its doing that with the return of NWB, Bowman Grey, and possibly Rockingham,and yall complain. I swear this is all the fans do nowadays
I do want Rockingham, and Wilkesboro would be fine if the car wasn’t so bad on short tracks
@@JakeSimRacingNASCAR fans love complaining more than NASCAR itself
Bowman Grey sucks
Just not big enough for modern NASCAR.
Plus the cars run.limited horsepower now
Just won't work there.
a lot of people didnt want that btw
@@JakeSimRacingforgive me if I'm wrong but isn't Rockingham more raced like a speedway? Whenever I play it in 04 you go from 135mph to about 185mph then back down to 135 again? The tire falloff feels more like Darlington than Richmond or martainsville
I find that ironic because they still try to be less about racing and more about WWE and ball sports on wheels to please casuals who only care about gimmicks and crashes and ignore pure auto racing fans who knows how auto racing works.
I don’t have a problem with North Wilkesboro’s return because an iconic track like NWS should stay in business and, Brickyard 400 should always be on the oval, and as for Bowman Gray Stadium…. I’m skeptical, but I know NASCAR would ruin it with their gimmicks and BS.
4:09 add the choose rule and I will totally agree
NASCAR Doesn't Have a Nostalgia Problem. The Fans.
Hell, the TOXIC Fans.
The timing is terrible for the clash at bowman Gray. BECAUSE IT WILL BE IN WINTER.
NASCAR lost the fans when they went to the playoffs. The pure raw stats show that. Then they got rid of short tracks for cookie cutter 1.5 mile tracks. Finally a driver said recently that NASCAR cannot compete with the NFL and the schedule should be modified!! I agree, and the playoffs should be dumped completely!!
The entire entertainment industry has a nostalgia problem wtf😭😭
I live 10 mins away and go to Bowman Gray every weekend. This gives back to the community where it all started. Going back to N.Wilkesboro was awesome. I was there when the Cars Tour w Dale Jr went back for the first time and it was electric. It’s a huge positive for the community. NASCAR owes us this from starting the stupid ass playoffs and stages.
Happy to hear it. They definitely like to throw you guys a bone when its convenient for them
The playoffs are exactly what ruined NASCAR. That’s why I stopped following them in favor of INDYCAR because IndyCar actually has good racing and a great format for the championship.
I’ve done the same as well. For many years NASCAR was unquestionably my favorite sport, but the last few years it’s shifted towards IndyCar, IMSA and even F1 being more of my favorites than NASCAR. A full season points championship is incredible for motorsport.
If Xfinity and trucks were to do standalone events it should be somewhere not in Southeast as Portland and IRP tend to have decent attendances.
People talk about Larson vs Verstappen now. The problem with the format is how fluky it is. Larson is quite possibly the driver with the most raw talent in the history of the sport, he’d be lucky to get 3 champions out of this format
They don’t want another Johnson that’s for sure
@@JakeSimRacingyet now Joey Logano just Mickey'd his way to another championship, Team Penske has won all Gen 7 championships so far.
With the rumors about Rockingham returning to the Xfinity and/or Truck series, I'm really not surprised NASCAR decided to delve into the Bowman Gray market as well.
the same problem is happening in F1 in terms of them wanting to go to more USA GP events. rotate the events on the calendar and it would be a huge help to how attendance has fallen off
I think you underestimate the colossal greed and conniving planning by the France family to enrich themselves with NASCAR at the expense of fans, drivers, teams, and essentially everyone that’s not paying them
It’s not nostalgia it’s helping out with local small tracks, and its the racing fans enjoy.
Since nobody on the internet can say anything positive about current NASCAR: The current Xfinity car is the single greatest car NASCAR has ever created. Truck series Playoff racing is incredible. Ratings have stagnated for the first time in decades. Only reason they havent been up is because of major races getting impacted by weather. Say what you want about racing but the Jeff Gluck polls don't lie. It will never be perfect, but the sport is heading in the right direction.
@@lucastraman706 If you like a demolition derby yeah truck series playoff racing is good
Perhaps the nostalgia is their excuse for downsizing, which is what they dont want to admit they are having to do
Bingo
It’s amazing that so many fans know exactly how to make the sport watchable again, but the powers at be just can’t figure it out.
I don't care , am new I like roadcources, I and a lot of new fans would like roadcources. Just do what f1 is doing with there tires and poof the issues are gone. You can't stop dirty air man it will keep existing. Having 1 race date per track is the best thing Nascar can do to help attendance. The playoffs keep younger fans engaged especially with our low attention span.
JakeSimRacing, think you're a little off on this one. Think the real reason for the move to Bowman Gray is twofold, first is due to money. It is cheaper to use a prebuilt track than having to rebuild one every year. Second reason is politics. CA is far left, and they basically want to kill off the automobile as we know them. With a law stating no new car with a combustion engine can be sold in CA by 2035. Think that was part of the reason Nascar took the actions they did, with closing down Auto Club and going over to a rental model with the Coliseum, in hopes that policy would change. Unfortunately over that time CA has double down on that kind of policy(ie going after people with vintage/classic cars) and Nascar is pulling out. As for the Nostalgia aspect I would say that is more of a bonus. As to your point Nascar has always has been a regional sport, that started gaining national attention in the 80s due to media & sponsorship. The problem with that it was almost a case of too much too fast, and the leadership felt like they had to push to get into larger markets. As we have seen since the 80s most larger markets, might boost ratings/attendance for the first few races but not over years or even decades.
Hopefully with Trump coming back, intent to reopen the pipeline, the big 3 automakers get screwed and lose a shit ton of money doubling down on electric cars! I'll laugh my ass off at ther misfortunes!
I shutter to imagine nostalgic zoomers reminiscing about 2024 NASCAR! I'd rather forget 2024 NASCAR exists!
I suppose they wont have as many fights as the regular mad house drivers
Mine is 2014 to 2022
The manufacturers and TV networks ruined NASCAR.
ya definitely always see good racing clips come out of there and definitely not it always being a high school parking lot drama ...sarcasm.
you cooked
Womp womp stop complaining
And here we have proof that toxic positivity is really a thing.
I'll never stop complaining about 2022 onward NASCAR...I was mostly positive about in 2020 and '21, not anymore!
Get rid of the Clash and Keep the All Star Race, but have it after the Last Race of the Season Abroad. And also all Tracks Deserve 1 Date, The only ones that need a Second Date are Daytona, Charlotte and Indianapolis, but all of them on the Road Course
I agree with most of what you have said. And let's go back to letting boys be boys and stop this nonsense about "a clean race". What do we have a bunch of 80 year old grandma's racing. Daytona and Talladega are boring...take the restrictor plates off, put a big spoiler (or some kind of turbulence generator) on the back to make pack racing difficult and eliminate that yellow line rule but expand the lower line so we get back to racing instead of just a 38 car parade.