Sorry for the soft audio, this is my first vocal heavy video, so I am new to this rodeo. I have created a louder version of the video, ALL I ASK is that if you like the content, please like THIS ORIGINAL video for the algorithm to support the channel, and comment here so we can discuss the lore, as the other is private so the ratings and comments will be turned off😊 PLEASE DO NOT like the below video, please like the original as the one below is private (I would appreciate it a lot) ❤ (Click Read More for video) ruclips.net/video/at8WkrxyhQc/видео.html Thankyou for watching! Notes: THE MOST IMPORTANT, SUPER CRITICAL point i neglected to mention was rogiers quote referring to the black knife assasins as SCIONS OF THE ETERNAL CITY, thus establishing the numen as the precursors to nox in the eternal cities (when combining this info with numen rune description, and black knife assasin outfit description, as per video) Twinbird Kiteshield = also blue and red. A point i neglected to make. Also, I noticed rewatching my video for edits that in the trailer there are ABNORMALLY large corpses poking out from the two giant structures of corpses marika is standing between 👀 Also, there is one of those missing nox statues... in the church of vowes........ (from ahumanjusticars video) PS. If you hear birds you aren't losing it, I am surrounded completely and totally by rainbow lorikeets 😂 They will not be silenced.
I think that what Marika is reaching into in the trailer is not a womb but the eye socket of half of the head of a scaleless snake... I can draw the other half, is definitely a white scaleless snake.
@@teque315 Very possible, in which case maybe that snake was the elden beast equivalent of the Numen >_> I saw Tim's video and I must say it is quite compelling.
@@agxryt I know.. This video we are on is too quiet for some people, so I uploaded the same video but louder for people. It won't be happening again, I'll have under control in the next one >_>
Hell of a first video, seriously. First half of non-speculation is well thought out and detailed, very good. Second half of it with the speculation I also agree with a lot of that, and I think you’ll end up being right on large portions! 👍🏽
@@louisnguyen6610 god's love reaches you anywhere, and is in everything at all times. It grants forgiveness and a new life of service to god. It's a deconstruction of the christian god, specifically of the christian god's forgiveness and the problem of evil/hell. A jesus who by force denies you hell and cages you in heaven is shown to be tyrannical and necessarily oppressive in almost completely unimaginable ways, including but not limited to the complete replacement of your very desire, the core of your being. From freedom, desire. From desire, sin. From sin, a living hell. Just look at the world of ER - it's hell.
@@NoConsequenc3 it’s not just a deconstruction, it’s a criticism of the foundation of religions. Actually a lot of JRPG’s are as the whole “Kill God” part kind of give it away.
@@ScumMageInfa miyazaki even randomly said that in an interview (when asked about the interconnections of the map in bloodborne): "The world itself is a painted world in several respects - like Dark Souls - but essentially each area is still seamlessly connected." Here the full question and answer: Interviewer: I know there are some who prefer the ‘hub’ system from Demon’s Souls but for me, one of the most memorable aspects of your recent work was the extraordinary world-building of Dark Souls - how the game’s locations all linked up like some grand, intricate work of origami. How have you approached Bloodborne’s map design? Miyazaki: I wanted to take the best of both approaches. So every area is linked in one way or another much like the first Dark Souls, but you also have a hub system like Demon’s Souls. The world itself is a painted world in several respects - like Dark Souls - but essentially each area is still seamlessly connected. At the same time, to access each point, there are central hubs that act as warp points, and to reach new points, you still have the hub which also acts as a refuge as well. I wanted to combine the best of these elements so that you’d be able to easily go to areas you’ve already discovered.
Odd that so many are complaining about the sound levels, I'm old and went to many Rock and Metal gigs when I was younger and my hearing isn't great anymore, and yet, I had no problem hearing your voice and rather enjoyed the level. Subbed.
I think it MAY just be people's setup.. I mean, I could hear it fine at 80% on my phone, loud and clear- However some people are saying it is maxed and cannot hear me 😂I'll make sure the next video has the option of louder sound.
@@ScumMageInfa could be, I have an internal sound card linked to an external speaker set up. I have noticed my gaming headset has lower volume settings even at 100%.
I'm listening through an iPad and the volume is at about 50%; it is definitely slightly lower than usual. Also, I don't mind bumping up my volume to 75% (and I definitely have hearing issues). Most people don't wanna touch their volume dials and expect for audio to sound all the same. I don't think the problem is the video lol
I know I'm going against the grain here but i really like the quiet voice. It's perfect for lore before bed. That being said I'm privileged enough to be using ReVanced to dodge ads and I'll be keeping an eye on your future work either way so do what suits you best! If Smoughtown's intense-ass outro music doesn't discourage me from keeping him in my bedtime playlist rotation a few more decibels won't keep you out either. Fantastic work mate, instant sub and I'm excited to see where you go!
Thanks for the generous compliment ❤ I can sorta see where they are coming from.. It isn't necessarily my voice, its the fact you cant turn the volume up past a certain point. So Ill make sure I have that sorted for the next video! >.
ACKNOWLEDGED. Trust me, plenty of people have let me know hahahahaha apparently the ads (that I did NOT add) are ambushing people 😂 It's a fine balancing act to avoid Ps and Ss assaulting peoples ears, and I have a mic cover already, but I'll try playing around with mixing in the video I'll release in the next day or so. My first video so, I'll make sure its perfected next time, with the next video I will drop in the next few days :) Thanks for the feedback ❤
@@ScumMageInfathere’s definitely some cheaply priced software that can help you manage your plosives, or if you have a second mic set that one at a lower level and you can cut in between the two tracks seamlessly. Hope any of that helps.
Audio engineer here! There are free plugins you can load into your video editing software that are called “De-Essers”. They focus specifically on those harsh S and T sounds while keeping your voice untouched. I’m happy to give some recommendations if you’re interested!
Dang, that was pretty compelling. The Crypt Thrones are the most arresting images in all of ER for me and I think about them a lot and I NEVER considered Marika and the Gloam Eyed Queen to have been intended occupants of them. Fascinating idea and I think you might be onto something!
Thankyou :D It was quite a roller-coaster as I was going through in game and "discovering" these things and trying to piece it together- one of the most enjoyable moments I can recall tbh. The next one is even funner. I had a riot making it 😂 I hope you find it as compelling ♡
after having played through the dlc, i think the eternal cities were getting ready to rebel against marika, or she was afraid they would if their projects ever actually amounted to something. or maybe she had tasked her kin with these projects when she came to power, and didn't want anyone to know, so she banished them underground in the same way she sealed away the shadow realm, so the people of the lands between wouldn't know about their top-secret research, including the finger slayer blade, which would have freed her from the greater will. my question is: where are (is? lol) marika's 2 fingers? and what about miquella's?
The wisdom of stone is referring to the crystalians; from their staff: "Staff fashioned from pure crystal; a deed impossible for a human. Enhances Crystalian sorceries. The Crystalian's faint cognition is know as the "wisdom of stone." This staff can only be wielded by those of intellect high enough to grasp such wisdom." Still significant staff placement though! I really like your theories overall, and I think you're onto something here. Love your explanation for the fossilized despairing people underground.
Yes, Ive mused over that item description too lol Their cognition is the wisdom of stone, in other words, the origin of it. So who crafted them? I would wager a guess that it may have been the obsidian and alabastan lords, but I'm yet to delve into the wisdom of stone properly. I have a video planned for it :P I literally stared at them while they were meditating to see if there was any clue 😅 Thank you for watching and the kind words ♡
A lot of this, especially the past the speculation part near the halfway point, seems to be incorrect. Not just because of new information we got from the DLC (Bayle leaving Placidusax with grievous wounds), but just doesn't match other information we find throughout the game. Case in point, the Fingerslayer Blade - it's likely not made from a dragon, but from a humanoid being, as it shares many visual similarities to the Sacred Relic Sword, which is just Radagon's body transformed into a tool. Given that it is a dagger and not a greatsword, we can imagine that the Fingerslayer Blade was made from a smaller humanoid, likely someone that looks like the Hawk soldiers or someone of similar stature.
Wow! Have you just been waiting until the bottom of the ninth before hitting one of the park? I think this is definitely the most complete and coherent account of the timeline for the eternal cities, numen, and Nox that I’ve seen. (And I darest say I’ve seen them all . I’m a lore junky.) Fantastic video!
Thankyou so much! What a generous compliment! I will be making a deeper video on the pre-nox cultures eventually, I will be DEEP diving into Elden John. Funnily enough, this video was originally a couple of paragraph prelude to the next video I am releasing (Marika's Great Escape) lol and it just.. grew.. so I needed to get it out and done with to finally finish the next one. I did NOT expect it to blow up like it did, but its reassuring to feel less crazy with so many positive comments hahaha
Fingerslayer blade looks like it is made out of a whole body rather than just a dragon head, like Sacred Relic Sword made out of Radagon. You can see the whole spine, legs and arms.
@@ScumMageInfa What if the wound in Metyr is because the black knives literally ripped a baby two fingers from her womb and made it into the blade... oof
@@ultrajari The more I think about metyr the more I wonder how she ties in with the eternal cities. Also, ngl, the weapon is low key giving nanaya's torch vibes :')
Amazing video! I agree with most of your theories, aside from the "create messmer" bit, as i believe he may be related colser to the gloam eyed queen due in part to his relation to the godskins via snake-like and elongated features. However, I look forward to the evidence for your theory. That being said, the profane ritual of Rykard being compared to the scene with Marika during the trailer was absolutely brilliant. I subbed, have emailed this video to ratatoskr for review, and am looking forward to more!
In that same regard, concerning Rykard even, isn't it interesting how the snake bois in his area move like the godskin? :P The stretching of heir bodies is like the apostle for example, and they too have tails. Thankyou for the compliment
@@DyzziMusic Its done- But as a private video for those who need it- I dont wanna tamper with the algorithm too much, it may betray me LOL ruclips.net/video/at8WkrxyhQc/видео.html
18:02 About the "Wisdom of Stone" I think that's about the Crystalians "Crystal Burst - A sorcery of the Crystal Cadre, a group of sorcerers who pursued the wisdom of stone - the secrets locked in the faint cogitation of the Crystalians."
A very valid point and one I also pondered but instead over the headpiece to their gear which alludes to something similar. However I can't reconcile the staff being under such a uniquely strange crypt throne and not being connected, hence why i took the route of speaking about the alabastans and onyx lords- I think they are tied in with the wisdom one gains when also becoming a stone like creature- like the onyx and alabastan lords, and like lusat and azur.
@@ScumMageInfathe onyx and alabaster lords have always confused me, because one would expect a creature of stone to be very sturdy. but they aren't, they are very easy to stagger and they bleed, which is surprising considering that miners have skin that's actually rock-hard. I've always wondered if their skin is superficial, more stone-looking than actually being anything like stone. I'm going nowhere with this, I just thought it was interesting.
I very much enjoy these kind of soft spoken videos, particularly lore videos! I generally watch them late at night when I can’t sleep and just want to relax and they tend to do the trick
Thankyou very much :D I have two videos that will be coming out relating to the crucibles and then Miquella and his great escape :P I hope you'll enjoy them as much!
Amazed that this is your first video. Please make more!! I went to your profile to get another to watch and was amazed to find this was your first. Hell of an entrance.
I did find some of your conclusions in the second half a bit spurious, specifically that the Godskins aren't native to Farum Azula, but you had good reasons to back up your points and it left me thinking your conclusions might be closer to the truth than my preconceived notions. The Godskin and Carian jewels being identical was something I hadn't noticed before that really threw me for a loop.
@@DavidStavis Thankyou so much! :) I have another video half done that I'll be releasing in the next day or two so, stay tuned 😁 I think the remnants of the Godskin are being manipulated by Ranni, who they see as a return of the GEQ and Age of the Stars and Moon, this is why we see them on the bridge to Ranni's castle, and in the windmill village (That will make sense in the next video).
Really like the softness with the video, gives Vaati Vidya vibes. Feels like I am being told a story by the fire which is my fav type of lore video. Subscribed
Yeah, true! Have been waiting for the hype to settle in...for whatever reason, this vid especially made me want to explore the Lands Between once more. The Eternal Cities look so dope 🥰
Thanks :) I've gotten that a few times now, and I agree, it's a fine balancing act to avoid Ps and Ss assaulting peoples ears, and I have a mic cover already, but I'll try playing around with mixing in the video I'll release in the next day or so ❤
I love the Hallow Bastion music playing in the background, I almost fell asleep. This video put me in a trance or something XD. I don't know what you were talking about but really enjoyed it regardless.
@@madmorgo6233 My IRL mate couldn't get it and raged and said it was impossible to guess, so seeing people guess it is amazing LMAO I keep sending him scs every time someone does and say he 'isnt a true fan tsktsk' he is NOT impressed 😂
Wow, this is great. I appreciate you always staying on point, but able to inject some humor without being obnoxious or distracting. The editing is smooth and pleasing and your narration is oddly soothing. Not to mention it's easy to follow your train of thought. However, and this is such a nitpick and unimportant thing, but boy do I not enjoy the font you used for the texts xD I hope you make more videos, because this is very enjoyable!
Thankyou so much for the lovely comment ❤ It was the basic, standard text as most of them were last minute additions after I was burned out from making the whole thing 😂 But you're right, it is tacky. I will be sure to remember your comment next video when I add text 😁
Certainly agree with the others that three volume needs to be increased going forward... But looking past that minor issue I've got to say this is a really well put together video and I'm very much looking forward to future ones!
Thankyou so much! :) PS I added a louder version to the pinned comment ❤ Also, I released s new video, I hope the sound in that is better. I have been experimenting with mixing volume more lol let me know what you think if you happen to take a gander 😊
Agree I am arguing that is where it also came from, a sort of rott crucible (see the video I just released on crucibles for more context!) It was banished back whence it came.
DLC SPOILERS BELOW So, from the base game, we have credible evidence that the Primeval Current is the Greater Will (or at least its location). Lusat (whose staff we find in the Sellia Chair-Crypt) is one of the sorcerers who "saw beyond the wisdom of stone" and glimpsed the Primeval Current/Greater Will, as is Azur. Azur's staff says: "When Azur glimpsed into the primeval current, he saw darkness. He was left both bewitched and fearful of the abyss." The Nox opposed the Greater Will (and were forced underground as a result), and sought an Age of Stars heralded by a Lord of Night. Night was the basis for their whole society/religion (hence 'Nox', Latin for 'night'). They also relied on sorcery instead of incantations, connecting them to glintstone (and to the Dark Moon, connecting them in turn to Carian Royalty, but that's not so important here). The Eternal Darkness sorcery (also found near Sellia) mentions the Eternal City and is referred to as "the despair that brought about its ruin made manifest". I think this is crucial to understanding what happened to the Nox, given the context provided by the DLC. The Metyr questline in the DLC reveals that the Greater Will has been silent for a very, very long time (since long before even Marika's ascension to godhood). The world's primary god has functionally abandoned it, and only darkness - a deep, infinite, _eternal darkness_ - remains. All of this information is the basis for the following speculation: I think the Nox glimpsed the primeval current in their attempts to reach the stars. Instead of stars they found the truest form of the Night they revered - and realized it was either just the Greater Will again or the pitch-black absence of it. In either case, as a civilization defined by their rebellion against the Greater Will, I can't imagine they took this discovery well. Soon after, their civilization collapsed. Inferring further, perhaps in their despair the Nox successfully beckoned the stars to hasten the Age of Stars/Lord of Night - but also successfully summoned Astel in much the same way, which proceeded to destroy them. (also, it's possible this all ties into why Placidusax is Like That. Eternal slumber in a pose reminiscent of the Two Fingers (or Metyr); trying to contact the Greater Will, peering out into eternal darkness...) There's definitely more to this, but this comment is long enough I think.
Alright, you blew me away at the end. I didn't connect as many dots as you did with the ancient races...but I've always had this feeling Miquella is simply being guided by Marika to follow in her footsteps only to be betrayed in the end. All the children she had were just calculated plans and attempts to not only control the board but to pave the way until eventually the perfect child was born. One that npcs in game and players irl had trouble distinguishing between. Miquella. We know Marika has a bloody history and is not shy to use her children for war or banish them entirely. Why would we believe any of her whispers when her history is stained with betrayal. She is Queen Eternal and plans to keep it that way. Perhaps taking over Miquella or sharing a body with him is her way of escaping her current prison and separating herself from Radagon. It makes me wonder if the journey in the lands of shadow is a pilgrimage to becoming one with another. Is this how Marika fused with Radagon in the first place? I made a Reddit post a few days ago about this but it didn't gain traction. I've always been sceptical of Marika's actions and Miquella being so mysterious compared to the attention the other children received felt off to me. Miquella the kindly may be the first truly good Fromsoft character, but that makes his character naive to the fact that his own mother has ill intentions regarding his fate. A sad story in itself. All this really shot off when the preview came out and it was mentioned that Marika sanctioned Miquella to the Land of Shadow...a place where she became a god, and a place where she has her deepest secrets hidden. I also made a joke post that Marika is an ant queen and Elden Ring is just a dark take on 'Honey I shrunk the Kids'....that was better received than my other theory. 🤣🤣🤣 You explaining it all like this reassures me I'm not entirely crazy. Subscribed and liked, I can't wait to hear more of your thoughts on the lore. Thank you for the brain melt. 🤣🤙
Believe it or not, the next video I am releasing is very much along these lines 'Marika's Great Escape' essentially, but the method is what I am focusing on, which involves those.. calculated children- So I would argue you are very near correct :P Apparently that item description was wrong btw, and it was addressed to mersmer, not miquella. However, I would argue this changes nothing, I can let you guess as to why hahaha Thanks so much for the wonderful comment
@@ScumMageInfa Typo or not I think we're on to something. Though mine was based on a hunch you did your research and I appreciate it! I'm looking forward to your next video! No rush, but...uhhh....when!? 🤣🤙
@@thewhistler6537 Literally asap I won't lie to you I am hyperanalyzing carpet as we speak. 🤣 I am HOPING either today, or tomorrow, if I am really desperate the next day... But I REALLY wanna release it lol
@@thewhistler6537 the "Queen Eternal" theory of Marika seems most plausible for me. she was the one whom tore lands between into shreds, and wants it to remain this way.
Considering how much miquella learned from the underground cities, there's a connection with the "binding" magic you're talking about and the concept of compelling adoration that's ascribed to miquella a lot.
And, fun enough, the pink mist that comes out from the bewitching branches (Miquellas branches that uses his affection compelling) is the same pink as the eyes of the ants in the eternal cities who are being mind controlled, same colour as the fingers with pink jewels, and rannis jewelry.
@moth._. thankyou kindly :) I have adjusted the volume for the concrete drillers in the audience in the newest ones, but I tried to keep the soft aspect to it as well with the overall volume ♡ I hope they are as enjoyable 😁
Interesting they use the word "stock" to refer the Numen's relation to Marika. In nature a stock can refer to the trunk or main stem of a tree or another plant, onto which a scion is grafted to produce a stronger plant.
@@ScumMageInfa Often times a plant with desirable fruit or flower will need to be grafted onto another plant in order to thrive in a different environment.
Man what a great video! And honestly I *like* the audio the way it is, it’s nice and soothing sounding kinda like Vaati’s. I like to put these on when I’m going to bed at night and then just keep rewatching them 827 more times so idk I’m a fan of this style of narration
Thankyou so much I appreciate it. 😁 The other one I just posted is a little louder BUT mostly it's just the option to turn the volume louder so it can still be quiet ♡
@@ScumMageInfa I'd always taken it as it being an outer god, since melania is aflicted by its "blessing" and miquellas needle which blocks the interferences of outer gods stops rot on people's bodies from spreading. So an entity similar to the formless mother or the blood star etc. I kinda doubt it "originates" from the lake of rot since you can tell it used to be a normal lake from its dead greenery. And the fact that you can find rot in the shadowlands that seems to predate most civilizations in the lands between. Plus there's heaps of dead bodies in a bunch of other places that has no correlation to rot
Love this theory, but the only disagree with is the reason for the lake of rot existing. I don’t remember what it was (i think the map), but an item description says that the blind swordsman who taught Malenia sealed away the Outer God of Rot there, and I’m pretty sure that the lake of rot is that God’s “essence” leaking over, hence the Pests, followers of the Rot.
yes, I know what you mean - The thing is, the blue swordsman may have sealed the god of rott, but where did the god of rott COME from? And WHEN did he seal it? :P I would argue the giant lake of rott underground was created as runoff from this ritual, and the outer god of rott was 'summoned' to the lands between from it, as a sort of rott crucible lol The Blue swordsman sealed this god later, however Malenia was born with the rott as punishment for Marika's involvement with the creation of the rott in the lands bewtween (Just like Morgott and Mogh were born as they are, as a result of her meddling with the erdtree's crucible)
@@ScumMageInfa I recommend a really good video that goes deeper on this than I can called Elden Ring is a Cosmic Horror masterpiece. It talks about a lot of these topics really well, plus others.
@ndroidryan7659 I may give that a watch! :D It seems counter productive, but i try to steer clear of lore videos personally I like the process of figuring it all out in the game physically myself, and some of these lore tubers are too damn good at what they do! Lol like they are channeling spoilers from miyazaki himself
With regard to the finger-slaying blade, I think when it says it was made from a corpse, I think it means literally the whole corpse, just like the Elden Beast turned Radagon into a sword. You can see the same design elements like the arms for the hilt and the vertebrae of the spine. Also, from Wikipedia: 'In the poem, Fjölsviðr describes to the hero Svipdagr that Sinmara keeps the weapon Lævateinn within a chest, locked with nine strong locks.' Lævateinn is the blade that Loki sought to slay the rooster atop Yggdrasil, and Sinmara was the giantess who kept the blade safe in a chest. The name 'Sinmara' has been associated with the word 'nightmare'. The twisted corpses in the Eternal City look very much like the faces in Bloodborne's Nightmare of Mensis area.
i LOVE this theory that speak about the suggets with an interesting approch i never seen in any other place. I was a bit tired of always the same theory but i thinks yours is really interesting and original
Do you mean my voice? Or the music? Or both? I didn't want the music to be too loud that it would interfere with my voice, and when I speak too loud the S's and P's are little mini ear nukes :') I'll work on it! Thanks for the feedback :)
So ive been told... I've gotten that a few times now, and I agree, it's a fine balancing act to avoid Ps and Ss assaulting peoples ears, and I have a mic cover already, but I'll try playing around with mixing in the video I'll release in the next day or so. Sorry this time around, thanks for letting me know!
@@ScumMageInfa no problem! I personally would just go for a louder volume since the audience can just lower it if its too loud. But if its too low we cant go over 100% volume. Hopefully you can fix it next upload!
It's placement just happened to be right above the ancient water ways of the nox. Given the extensive sewers under the capital leading directly to the nameless city, perhaps there used to be a direct passage from the surface to the waterway below before the collapse. And for those that don't know, in the 3 finger room there is an illusory wall that leads to the upper roots at the beginning of the nameless city area.
@@ScumMageInfa I might have had another discovery from watching this. The CLAW. A slab of Rock. Finger like. With a ring. Marika/radagon are made of rock. And missing an arm. It's long been suspected she had some involvement in the KoBK. Could the claw be her finger? Who else could have gotten close enough to maliketh to steal it. How else did Marika betray him.
Also interesting is the ants purple eyes, where else do we see purple eyes? Two places. Blaidd the finger bound shadow of Ranni. And Melina, but only if she is alive after malikeths death. And the eye he gives up to hunt down death root is also purple.
@@alephnole7009 "Eye of the Beast" Definitely worth investigating further, that's for sure. Although the ants eyes are no purple- They are pink when mind controlled, like the gems around ranni's real body, the bejewlled finger creepers and miquellas enchanting branch,
I won’t harp on the volume issue since you’ve gotten enough of that, hahaha! As for the theory itself, I don’t know how much stock I put into it, but it’s a very interesting angle to approach things from. I wouldn’t be surprised if some parts are true, or at least truth-adjacent. Regardless, it’s a very well made video. Congrats on being new and getting something to pop off so early!
Hahahah thankyou for your mercy ♡ I really appreciate the compliment :) I know! I had no idea it would get this much attention I'm low key overwhelmed lol I am gonna make damn sure the next one has flawless audio 😂😭
But lore video I've seen hands down. Address every element and even more, open up A LOT, and explores areas that lore explorers have not gone before. I don't think anyone has come up with your theory before, and frankly, I think it makes waaaay more sense than everyone elses. Everyone seems to stumble on theirs and have holes.
This is mostly just my speculation but the coffins that transport you have time magic attached to them. The one going up the waterfall is rewinding but ages to how it fell off the waterfall. This is a thing that’s happened before in fromsoft games. For instance in Bloodbourne after getting an invitation to Cain hurst castle you can find a secret horse and carriage waiting to take you to the castle. Once you are there though you turn around and the horses are dead. But not only are they dead but they have been long dead for ages.
Thankyou very much! 😁 I know some people probably have worse setups or listen to it while doing the cleaning or some loud activity so, fair enough. I made the next video waaaaay louder hahahaha 😁
NGL I kind of can't really think of all that much I would change - Only that Radahn did what he did FOR Miquella and AGAINST Ranni- And how Plassy was injured. Aside from that, I am pretty happy with my shot in the dark, and I WANTED to do it BEFORE the DLC in the chance I hit the nail on the head, and I feel like with a lot of it, I did.
@@ScumMageInfa hornsent, shamans, melding/grafting, the ritual to become a god (which Miquella undergoes), the curse placed on Marika to warp her children; there's a lot there. But I guess you can just make another video.
one thing you got wrong: the fingerslayer blade it's not made from some chunk of some body, its made of a whole body. it looks exactly like the sacred relic sword, but black and warped.
No I totally agree. I was speculating that since it says it's made OF A CORPSE I just figured perhaps it wasn't the whole thing. A commenter and I had a back and forth about it potentially being one of Marikas babies (like the demigods in the mausoleums) since the blade is so small, which is ruthlessly brutal, and totally something marika would do 😂
Great video!thanks for your perspective. Your timeline of the crucible is exactly how i feel about it,rather than all people thinking it was the beginning of life i think the crucible marks the beginning of marika'd godhood Also your theory about the alabaster and onyx lords being tied to nueman is the best theory around neuman origin i have heared in two years of following the lore of this game as in people who come from meteor are from another world!
Thankyou for the massive compliment ♡ I hope the next video will interest you just as much, I'm probably more excited about it than this one to be honest, collecting the clips for it as we speak :D
@ScumMageInfa cant wait for your upcoming videos Also your voice is very nice to listen to made the video much more enjoyable!good luck on the clip hunting and i hope you can get acsess to a pc with modding tools for better footage ♡
@@a-rah9001 Thankyou ❤Such generous words! I have a good PC now, I am just gonna have to bite the bullet and buy elden ring on PC hahaha May as well, I am as obsessed as I am. Next video will be soon, promise >.
Not sure if anybody has worked on translating the runes on the coffins yet, but these runes appear to be similar to the ones on the Velvet Sword of St Trina.
Thanks for sharing your theories! A lot of food for thought in here. I just wanted to point out that in the Japanese version of the Sellia's Secret note, the word for "source" is the same word for the primeval current. That word can in some contexts refer to the "source" of a river or tradition, but given that Lusat's staff and body are hidden in that area it seems likely to me that it's just supposed to reference the primeval current. Apologies if someone's already pointed this out; there were too many comments to read all of them and see if it had already been brought up.
@@ScumMageInfa Also wanted to say, if you ever wanna chat, need some help or anything like that, hmu. I'm sure Kix will happily give you my discord info lmao
I love the video, and everything stands now that we have more of the DLC lore, and the only part that everything changes is that Placidusaxx missing heads are with Bayle as he lost them on their fight.
@rfxserrano7009 Thankyou 😁 Ikr, I felt heaps vindicated from the DLC Lore hahahah, I have the next video coming out soon which will follow miquellas ascendence, and the eerie similarities between what marika did to ascend, and what miquella did. So excited to release itttttt!
@ScumMageInfa I'll make my way there! This is my first video of yours and it made me a subscriber, so the mixing couldnt be that bad. Great content 👌 keep it up!!
My interpretation of the nameless city is that it was the old part of Lyndell between the main gates and the lower part where the dragon is. And after Godwyns death that part of the capital sank deep underground as punishment for that's where the assassins lived. The rest of the capital was built around that older part of the city after Godfrey's reign.
HMMMMmmmm interesting theory, I always thought the old sector was more akin to sellia so maybe it was the INITIAL city there after the eternal cities sunk, and then leyndell was built over it after the age of the crucible to kinda pave over it in way for the age of the erdtree and golden order. Placing events and times of events is so hard lmao
The Elden Ring Sequel will continue like this. Elden Ring: The Unearthed Eternal City Setting: The Nameless Eternal City: Previously buried and only glimpsed in the background of Nokstella and Ainsel River. With Consort Radahn's death, the gravity magic that kept it sealed collapses, raising this long-forgotten city from its subterranean tomb. Environmental Design: A sprawling city of obsidian-black towers, silver runes, and ethereal starlight, mixing the architectural beauty of Nokstella with the grandeur of Leyndell. Vast sections of the city are corrupted by ancient beasts, while others are preserved as pristine relics of pre-Erdtree times. Theme: The city represents a forgotten truth-a time before the Erdtree and the Golden Order. Plot: Inciting Event: After Radahn's defeat, the gravitational forces binding the Eternal City break, causing its ruins to rise. Tarnished receive a new guidance of grace, leading them to uncover this unearthed domain. Lore: The Nameless Eternal City was buried long before the age of the Erdtree, created by beings who revered the cosmos and the natural order. Marika, upon ascending to godhood, waged a war to suppress their influence, casting their legacy into oblivion. Goal: Delve into the Eternal City to confront Marika's original self, who still lingers as a guardian against the Age of Stars. Major NPCs: 1. Ranni the Witch: Guides the Tarnished throughout the Eternal City, gradually revealing its history and her ultimate plan to claim it as the seat of her Age of Stars. 2. Malenia (Phantom): Returns as an adversarial spirit, driven to protect Marika's legacy. This adds emotional weight and complexity to the narrative. 3. The Herald of the Void: A new NPC who represents the remnants of the Eternal City's creators. They provide cryptic warnings and lore hints. Bosses: 1. The Celestial Tyrant: A cosmic, alien guardian that embodies the Eternal City's creators’ ancient power. It wields starlight-infused magic and gravity spells. 2. Malenia (Phantom): A new, spectral form of Malenia, with faster, more unpredictable moves and enhanced Scarlet Rot attacks. 3. Marika, the True Eternal: The final boss, a pure embodiment of Marika before she merged with Radagon. Wielding divine relics and light-based attacks, she fights with unmatched elegance and ferocity. Post-Battle: Choice: Upon defeating Marika, Ranni offers the Tarnished a chance to solidify the Age of Stars or usurp it, allowing multiple endings: Age of Stars Ascension: Ranni takes the throne, with the Tarnished as her Lord, and the Eternal City becomes the heart of a reborn cosmic order. Eternal Eclipse: The Tarnished betrays Ranni, seizing the Eternal City’s power for themselves, ushering an age of ambition and endless strife. Gameplay Additions: New Mechanics: Celestial Runes: Special consumables that grant temporary buffs tied to starlight or gravity. Cosmic Armaments: Weapons and spells that channel astral energy, blending magic and physical damage. Exploration: The city is multi-leveled, with hidden passageways, crumbling towers, and submerged ruins. Unique celestial creatures and enemies populate the area, from spectral knights to giant star-beasts. This concept feels like a natural progression of Elden Ring's world, tying up loose ends while expanding on its rich mythology.
The Lake of Rot is that way because of the sealing of the Outer God of Rot. It's described in the item description for the map in the area. Based on this as well as the Scorpion Stinger item description. It seems likely tied to Astel. Especially when you look at Astels tail and overall shape. Surprised nobody has put a theory together for that one yet. The Gods power sealed away and shoved into darkness. Then sees the void through the darkness, becoming Astel and taking revenge on the city. Which is why 1 of the 3 cities is destroyed. And it's night sky was stolen by Astel when he warped back to his boss room. - he can warp from place to place now after all
Yesssss I agree, I know that is where it was sealed but I think it is a good contender for how it gained entry to the lands between as well. Hmm. Hmm.. If the blind blue dancer is the one that did it and he existed in the time of Malenia to teach her... Lot of strange time placements i stg it is stifling mentally HAHAH
@@ScumMageInfa Yeah the overall timeline is probably the hardest thing to pin down in the lore LOL. Drives a person mad trying to carefully connect the dots. Because sometimes the timeline (or assumed timeline) gets in the way of cracking certain lore
Thankyou!! The next one will be the next chapter of that essentially, showing marikas plan of escape from the greater will after the events of this video I am legitimately so excited to post it and see what people think.
This was really interesting and great to follow. With all the new lore in the DLC about Marika's connection to the shamans and their unique properties for melding flesh, I feel like your observations about the piles of bodies being numens make even more sense now. The DLC also seems to imply that Marika was traumatized in some way by the persecution of the shaman people for ritualistic purposes. So I wonder if whatever happened to the Numens (ending up in piles of dead bodies, possibly as a result of going against the Greater Will) might have been a repeat of what happened to the shamans and what might have ultimately broken Marika and turned her against the Greater Will.
Oh my word I JUST noticed that the shape the black knives take (also the assassins dagger talismans) is that of a bird's talons! And tbose black bits in ghostflame spells are feathers. All features of the death birds. Whose ghostflame was the source of light and guidance for the dark leaden moon of nokstella. And possibly the hue of helphen.
Volume feels fine to me. Personally, I think the issue is that you seem to just descend into a whisper halfway through every sentence. Like you really eneunciate when you start talking, and then it just tapers off into barely audible whispering the closer you get to that full stop, and then the cycle continues. Banger video other than that, just thought I'd give my 2 cents
@niallmacrae6016 hahahaha thankyou I actually think I have the volume worked out now. My new two videos seem to be getting positive feedback about the change of Audio mixing :P
Idk if anyone's said this but I always felt that 1 of 2 things happened to the inhabitants of there. 1. They had evacuated from the city to nokstella due to the golden orders presence above them 2. They were killed and buried with everything destroyed to be brought back to the erdtrees roots
@@ScumMageInfa I really look forward to your future videos, this theory has really piqued my curiosity, especially hoe you linked so much to the shadow of the erd tree trailer
@@johnbuxton4484I am so excited to post the next one lol There is a touch more speculation and it's a little different to how things have been looked at so far, but.. nonetheless I can't wait to see what people think lol
32:36 I believe this portion of the video is the one that deserves more merit and attention given the presence of the cerulean coast. Whats odd is the naming here, cerulean means blue but the coast has different colors... Now its kind of implied it might be the blood of the fallen drake but id like to really find some evidence for the color in that area, would be a neat thing to explore.
Bro made an entire youtube channel to talk about some chairs. Jk this was very informative and completely shatters my timeline for elden ring you have given me much to think about. I wish we had more lore abour the albaster and onyx lords. Space elves??? Thats wild.
I noticed the other day that the scales on the scale armour of the Exile soldiers in Stormveil are the same as those on the Nox armour. Also, the Exiles' skin looks very dark, like that of the Nox. Also also, there is blue trim on the Exiles' armour, to go with their red hoods. Might be nothing, but I thought the similarity in the scales was noteworthy!
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Sorry for the soft audio, this is my first vocal heavy video, so I am new to this rodeo. I have created a louder version of the video, ALL I ASK is that if you like the content, please like THIS ORIGINAL video for the algorithm to support the channel, and comment here so we can discuss the lore, as the other is private so the ratings and comments will be turned off😊
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Notes:
THE MOST IMPORTANT, SUPER CRITICAL point i neglected to mention was rogiers quote referring to the black knife assasins as SCIONS OF THE ETERNAL CITY, thus establishing the numen as the precursors to nox in the eternal cities (when combining this info with numen rune description, and black knife assasin outfit description, as per video)
Twinbird Kiteshield = also blue and red. A point i neglected to make.
Also, I noticed rewatching my video for edits that in the trailer there are ABNORMALLY large corpses poking out from the two giant structures of corpses marika is standing between 👀
Also, there is one of those missing nox statues... in the church of vowes........ (from ahumanjusticars video)
PS. If you hear birds you aren't losing it, I am surrounded completely and totally by rainbow lorikeets 😂 They will not be silenced.
I think that what Marika is reaching into in the trailer is not a womb but the eye socket of half of the head of a scaleless snake... I can draw the other half, is definitely a white scaleless snake.
@@teque315 Very possible, in which case maybe that snake was the elden beast equivalent of the Numen >_>
I saw Tim's video and I must say it is quite compelling.
I'm confused but I liked both videos. They're kinda similar, but I think you made better points in the one
@@agxryt I know.. This video we are on is too quiet for some people, so I uploaded the same video but louder for people.
It won't be happening again, I'll have under control in the next one >_>
An amazing soft voice! Slept like a baby, time to actually listen to it now that its the morning :'D
Speaking of red and blue for death flame, the DLC has those 2 areas right next to each other with vibrant red flowers and vibrant blue flowers
Hell of a first video, seriously. First half of non-speculation is well thought out and detailed, very good. Second half of it with the speculation I also agree with a lot of that, and I think you’ll end up being right on large portions! 👍🏽
Heer heer
Thankyou Heaps! I cant wait to see and find out, I imagine, very soon hahaha
Rare Elden Ring ASMR goes hard
ASMR, my voice? Impossible.
I fall asleep to this so fast. Big fan.
@@patrickhaigh8351 That is crazy to me! I am glad you enjoyed it, thanks for the compliment ❤ Really appreciate it.
ASMR indeed! Keep it coming, my nerves love it :D
The coffin that fell apart was suffused by light. The fireflies tell us light is time, which would cause the breakdown.
Ohhhhh damn, that's a great take.
By that logic, the final dlc boss has us fighting a god of space (gravity magic), time (light magic), and faith (blood flame magic)
@@louisnguyen6610 god's love reaches you anywhere, and is in everything at all times. It grants forgiveness and a new life of service to god. It's a deconstruction of the christian god, specifically of the christian god's forgiveness and the problem of evil/hell. A jesus who by force denies you hell and cages you in heaven is shown to be tyrannical and necessarily oppressive in almost completely unimaginable ways, including but not limited to the complete replacement of your very desire, the core of your being. From freedom, desire. From desire, sin. From sin, a living hell. Just look at the world of ER - it's hell.
@@NoConsequenc3 it’s not just a deconstruction, it’s a criticism of the foundation of religions. Actually a lot of JRPG’s are as the whole “Kill God” part kind of give it away.
Can you explain in lamens terms
I am starting to understand Bloodborne finally, great video
Glad I could help ❤😂
Bloodborne is just the paint inside Ariandel, made with the blood of the dark soul
@@untipo. Based
@@ScumMageInfa miyazaki even randomly said that in an interview (when asked about the interconnections of the map in bloodborne):
"The world itself is a painted world in several respects - like Dark Souls - but essentially each area is still seamlessly connected."
Here the full question and answer:
Interviewer: I know there are some who prefer the ‘hub’ system from Demon’s Souls but for me, one of the most memorable aspects of your recent work was the extraordinary world-building of Dark Souls - how the game’s locations all linked up like some grand, intricate work of origami. How have you approached Bloodborne’s map design?
Miyazaki: I wanted to take the best of both approaches. So every area is linked in one way or another much like the first Dark Souls, but you also have a hub system like Demon’s Souls.
The world itself is a painted world in several respects - like Dark Souls - but essentially each area is still seamlessly connected. At the same time, to access each point, there are central hubs that act as warp points, and to reach new points, you still have the hub which also acts as a refuge as well. I wanted to combine the best of these elements so that you’d be able to easily go to areas you’ve already discovered.
Odd that so many are complaining about the sound levels, I'm old and went to many Rock and Metal gigs when I was younger and my hearing isn't great anymore, and yet, I had no problem hearing your voice and rather enjoyed the level. Subbed.
I think it MAY just be people's setup.. I mean, I could hear it fine at 80% on my phone, loud and clear- However some people are saying it is maxed and cannot hear me 😂I'll make sure the next video has the option of louder sound.
I listened on my Google pixel 6a and had no issues. @@ScumMageInfa
@@ScumMageInfa could be, I have an internal sound card linked to an external speaker set up. I have noticed my gaming headset has lower volume settings even at 100%.
I'm listening through an iPad and the volume is at about 50%; it is definitely slightly lower than usual. Also, I don't mind bumping up my volume to 75% (and I definitely have hearing issues). Most people don't wanna touch their volume dials and expect for audio to sound all the same. I don't think the problem is the video lol
We aren't all sitting around in our nice n quiet retirement homes, grampa. We out here livin loud...😂jk
I know I'm going against the grain here but i really like the quiet voice. It's perfect for lore before bed. That being said I'm privileged enough to be using ReVanced to dodge ads and I'll be keeping an eye on your future work either way so do what suits you best! If Smoughtown's intense-ass outro music doesn't discourage me from keeping him in my bedtime playlist rotation a few more decibels won't keep you out either. Fantastic work mate, instant sub and I'm excited to see where you go!
Thanks for the generous compliment ❤ I can sorta see where they are coming from.. It isn't necessarily my voice, its the fact you cant turn the volume up past a certain point. So Ill make sure I have that sorted for the next video! >.
I'll say it because I don't see anybody else mentioning it, for the love of God please make your next video 500% louder than this one
ACKNOWLEDGED. Trust me, plenty of people have let me know hahahahaha apparently the ads (that I did NOT add) are ambushing people 😂
It's a fine balancing act to avoid Ps and Ss assaulting peoples ears, and I have a mic cover already, but I'll try playing around with mixing in the video I'll release in the next day or so. My first video so, I'll make sure its perfected next time, with the next video I will drop in the next few days :)
Thanks for the feedback ❤
@@ScumMageInfathere’s definitely some cheaply priced software that can help you manage your plosives, or if you have a second mic set that one at a lower level and you can cut in between the two tracks seamlessly. Hope any of that helps.
@@CLARKCLOUT Brilliant, thanks for that! :)
I am experimenting with mixing as we speak. I WILL get it right next time!
Audio engineer here! There are free plugins you can load into your video editing software that are called “De-Essers”. They focus specifically on those harsh S and T sounds while keeping your voice untouched. I’m happy to give some recommendations if you’re interested!
@@isaachaze6321 Absolutely! Whatever recommendations you have I'll happily hear, thanks again mate! I really appreciate it.
This has to be one of the most grounded lore videos paired with the SotE story trailer I’ve seen. Very excited for your next videos!
Thankyou very much! I am very excited to drop the next one, I hope you enjoy it as much!
Dang, that was pretty compelling. The Crypt Thrones are the most arresting images in all of ER for me and I think about them a lot and I NEVER considered Marika and the Gloam Eyed Queen to have been intended occupants of them. Fascinating idea and I think you might be onto something!
Thankyou :D
It was quite a roller-coaster as I was going through in game and "discovering" these things and trying to piece it together- one of the most enjoyable moments I can recall tbh.
The next one is even funner. I had a riot making it 😂 I hope you find it as compelling ♡
two absolute gems i watch frequently interacting, i love this
Oh hello there! well this bodes well.
Yo, the Dad! Was not expecting to see you here. Love your work, mate.
@@JefeVergas ❤
after having played through the dlc, i think the eternal cities were getting ready to rebel against marika, or she was afraid they would if their projects ever actually amounted to something. or maybe she had tasked her kin with these projects when she came to power, and didn't want anyone to know, so she banished them underground in the same way she sealed away the shadow realm, so the people of the lands between wouldn't know about their top-secret research, including the finger slayer blade, which would have freed her from the greater will. my question is: where are (is? lol) marika's 2 fingers? and what about miquella's?
Extremely impressive for a first video dude. You’re definitely on to something, excellent detective work!
Thankyou! I appreciate it
The wisdom of stone is referring to the crystalians; from their staff:
"Staff fashioned from pure crystal; a deed impossible for a human. Enhances Crystalian sorceries.
The Crystalian's faint cognition is know as the "wisdom of stone." This staff can only be wielded by those of intellect high enough to grasp such wisdom."
Still significant staff placement though! I really like your theories overall, and I think you're onto something here. Love your explanation for the fossilized despairing people underground.
Yes, Ive mused over that item description too lol Their cognition is the wisdom of stone, in other words, the origin of it. So who crafted them? I would wager a guess that it may have been the obsidian and alabastan lords, but I'm yet to delve into the wisdom of stone properly. I have a video planned for it :P I literally stared at them while they were meditating to see if there was any clue 😅
Thank you for watching and the kind words ♡
Great first lore video, keep it up!
A lot of this, especially the past the speculation part near the halfway point, seems to be incorrect. Not just because of new information we got from the DLC (Bayle leaving Placidusax with grievous wounds), but just doesn't match other information we find throughout the game. Case in point, the Fingerslayer Blade - it's likely not made from a dragon, but from a humanoid being, as it shares many visual similarities to the Sacred Relic Sword, which is just Radagon's body transformed into a tool. Given that it is a dagger and not a greatsword, we can imagine that the Fingerslayer Blade was made from a smaller humanoid, likely someone that looks like the Hawk soldiers or someone of similar stature.
I have a good idea of who the finger slaying blade was, now :P
i think a good candidate for the super secret final boss of the dlc can be the twin birds deity.
THAT would be WILD. And would make sense if the shadow realm is where all of the things being suppressed by the greater will are sent.
@@ScumMageInfa do you think the uhl statues could be of the beings sitting on the thrones?
maybe uhl is still alive....
@@tomas60952 I cant wait to take a deep dive into the pre-nox/numen civilisations. It will be fascinating.
@@ScumMageInfa the GW fled long, long ago under the Dragonlord, it's not suppressing anything. Marika is doing that.
Unironically one of my favorite lore videos I’ve ever watched. Good shit man.
What a huge compliment, thankyou so much ♡
I hope you enjoy the next one as much, I'll try to keep it to standard!
Wow! Have you just been waiting until the bottom of the ninth before hitting one of the park? I think this is definitely the most complete and coherent account of the timeline for the eternal cities, numen, and Nox that I’ve seen. (And I darest say I’ve seen them all . I’m a lore junky.) Fantastic video!
Thankyou so much! What a generous compliment!
I will be making a deeper video on the pre-nox cultures eventually, I will be DEEP diving into Elden John.
Funnily enough, this video was originally a couple of paragraph prelude to the next video I am releasing (Marika's Great Escape) lol and it just.. grew.. so I needed to get it out and done with to finally finish the next one. I did NOT expect it to blow up like it did, but its reassuring to feel less crazy with so many positive comments hahaha
you have such a lovely calming voice. i feel like i'm getting a private history lesson from the sole librarian of some ancient, magical library.
@@john-fu2ry that's the vibe we are going for 😂
Like a discussion by a fire at a rest point with a rambling, possibly insane sage 😂
Fingerslayer blade looks like it is made out of a whole body rather than just a dragon head, like Sacred Relic Sword made out of Radagon. You can see the whole spine, legs and arms.
Such a small body... imagine if it was made out of a baby 💀
@@ScumMageInfaSmall crooked guy as fighter of empyrian, no wonder it lost😅.
@@ScumMageInfa What if the wound in Metyr is because the black knives literally ripped a baby two fingers from her womb and made it into the blade... oof
@@ultrajari The more I think about metyr the more I wonder how she ties in with the eternal cities. Also, ngl, the weapon is low key giving nanaya's torch vibes :')
Fingerslayer blade also looks a lot like the 9 weapons thrust into the roundtable!
Audio is fine and chill. Enlightening video, thank you for taking the time to make something so thoughtful.
Thankyou for the kind compliment, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Makes the effort well worth it. ❤
Bro this is so good for your first video, keep it up!
Thanks so much! :)
Next one is well over half finished, I hope you will like it as much!
I had NO idea there was a second coffin in the nameless city
Absolutely spectacular video!
Your speculation has given me much to think about.
Eagerly awaiting your next videos 👽
Thankyou! The next one's speculation may infact drive you wild. I know it drove me wild, considering it lead to me hyperanalyzing carpet...
Amazing video!
I agree with most of your theories, aside from the "create messmer" bit, as i believe he may be related colser to the gloam eyed queen due in part to his relation to the godskins via snake-like and elongated features.
However, I look forward to the evidence for your theory.
That being said, the profane ritual of Rykard being compared to the scene with Marika during the trailer was absolutely brilliant.
I subbed, have emailed this video to ratatoskr for review, and am looking forward to more!
In that same regard, concerning Rykard even, isn't it interesting how the snake bois in his area move like the godskin? :P The stretching of heir bodies is like the apostle for example, and they too have tails.
Thankyou for the compliment
@@ScumMageInfa if you do, do it before it blows up even more haha
@@DyzziMusic Its done- But as a private video for those who need it- I dont wanna tamper with the algorithm too much, it may betray me LOL
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About the "Wisdom of Stone" I think that's about the Crystalians "Crystal Burst - A sorcery of the Crystal Cadre, a group of sorcerers who pursued the wisdom of stone - the secrets locked in the faint cogitation of the Crystalians."
A very valid point and one I also pondered but instead over the headpiece to their gear which alludes to something similar.
However I can't reconcile the staff being under such a uniquely strange crypt throne and not being connected, hence why i took the route of speaking about the alabastans and onyx lords- I think they are tied in with the wisdom one gains when also becoming a stone like creature- like the onyx and alabastan lords, and like lusat and azur.
@@ScumMageInfathe onyx and alabaster lords have always confused me, because one would expect a creature of stone to be very sturdy. but they aren't, they are very easy to stagger and they bleed, which is surprising considering that miners have skin that's actually rock-hard. I've always wondered if their skin is superficial, more stone-looking than actually being anything like stone. I'm going nowhere with this, I just thought it was interesting.
@chilly456 certainly worth further investigating, that's for sure..
I very much enjoy these kind of soft spoken videos, particularly lore videos! I generally watch them late at night when I can’t sleep and just want to relax and they tend to do the trick
@ZealotPheonix I'm glad you enjoyed it and its helping you rest ♡
Im having the time of my life with this wave of elden ring lore channels debuts
Hahahahaha goooood
I am uploading a new video as we speak.
Amazing video, and the volume levels were perfect for me. Softspoken lore is the best, and this was peak relaxation.
@Nox117 so glad to hear it, thankyou ♡
Slay. Incredible work for your first vid. Subbed and can't wait for the next ones!
Thankyou so much for the compliment ♡
I can't wait to post the next one, im having so much fun rn making it :D
@ScumMageInfa glad to hear! The only thing better than excersising that creative muscle is having a good time doing it :)
Such a good video! Many things make so much sense and I'm looking forward to a refined theory with the info we got from the dlc
Thankyou very much :D
I have two videos that will be coming out relating to the crucibles and then Miquella and his great escape :P
I hope you'll enjoy them as much!
Pretty compelling stuff here. Great job!
Thankyou very much ^_^
Amazed that this is your first video. Please make more!! I went to your profile to get another to watch and was amazed to find this was your first. Hell of an entrance.
I did find some of your conclusions in the second half a bit spurious, specifically that the Godskins aren't native to Farum Azula, but you had good reasons to back up your points and it left me thinking your conclusions might be closer to the truth than my preconceived notions. The Godskin and Carian jewels being identical was something I hadn't noticed before that really threw me for a loop.
@@DavidStavis Thankyou so much! :) I have another video half done that I'll be releasing in the next day or two so, stay tuned 😁
I think the remnants of the Godskin are being manipulated by Ranni, who they see as a return of the GEQ and Age of the Stars and Moon, this is why we see them on the bridge to Ranni's castle, and in the windmill village (That will make sense in the next video).
Bro is cosplaying Vaati with 99.99% accuracy
Might have something to do with us both being Australian and soft-spoken lol
I aint gonna complain, good ol vaati has done well for himself hahaha
Not true - bros lore is good.
Softspoken Australians must be banned from doing voice work due to their unfair advantage.
@@ZeroPhoenixTheLastBladeTheory 😂 nooo
Really like the softness with the video, gives Vaati Vidya vibes. Feels like I am being told a story by the fire which is my fav type of lore video. Subscribed
@@LogoMotive11 ahahahaha thankyou :D
Ah, to be Australian and soft spoken... is to be vaati, so I am told 😂
Got me hyped for the DLC! Great work 👏
Yeah, true! Have been waiting for the hype to settle in...for whatever reason, this vid especially made me want to explore the Lands Between once more. The Eternal Cities look so dope 🥰
As of the dlc the finger creeper magic and origin is answered. Associated with alien influence, the two fingers, greater will and metyr.
Good video, if a bit quiet. Takes the 'super quiet, wispering soulslike lore video' thing to the next level.
Thanks :)
I've gotten that a few times now, and I agree, it's a fine balancing act to avoid Ps and Ss assaulting peoples ears, and I have a mic cover already, but I'll try playing around with mixing in the video I'll release in the next day or so ❤
I use Reaper for audio mixing and you can do some great things with a high pass filter.@ScumMageInfa
@@briggy4359 Thankyou for that I will look into it! :)
I love the Hallow Bastion music playing in the background, I almost fell asleep. This video put me in a trance or something XD. I don't know what you were talking about but really enjoyed it regardless.
Ahahahaha thanks :D
If you can't hear what I'm saying I added a louder version to the pinned comment 😁
Kingdom hearts OST is a non stop hit of bangers
I KNEW IT!! hahaha ahhh 🖤
@@madmorgo6233 My IRL mate couldn't get it and raged and said it was impossible to guess, so seeing people guess it is amazing LMAO I keep sending him scs every time someone does and say he 'isnt a true fan tsktsk' he is NOT impressed 😂
@@ScumMageInfa 😅🙈😹🤣🤣
Man, I miss KH 1 and 2...
Wow, this is great. I appreciate you always staying on point, but able to inject some humor without being obnoxious or distracting.
The editing is smooth and pleasing and your narration is oddly soothing. Not to mention it's easy to follow your train of thought.
However, and this is such a nitpick and unimportant thing, but boy do I not enjoy the font you used for the texts xD
I hope you make more videos, because this is very enjoyable!
Thankyou so much for the lovely comment ❤
It was the basic, standard text as most of them were last minute additions after I was burned out from making the whole thing 😂 But you're right, it is tacky. I will be sure to remember your comment next video when I add text 😁
Certainly agree with the others that three volume needs to be increased going forward... But looking past that minor issue I've got to say this is a really well put together video and I'm very much looking forward to future ones!
Thankyou so much! :)
PS I added a louder version to the pinned comment ❤
Also, I released s new video, I hope the sound in that is better. I have been experimenting with mixing volume more lol let me know what you think if you happen to take a gander 😊
The god of rot was sealed away somewhere bemeath the lake of rot by the blue swordsman
Agree
I am arguing that is where it also came from, a sort of rott crucible (see the video I just released on crucibles for more context!)
It was banished back whence it came.
DLC SPOILERS BELOW
So, from the base game, we have credible evidence that the Primeval Current is the Greater Will (or at least its location). Lusat (whose staff we find in the Sellia Chair-Crypt) is one of the sorcerers who "saw beyond the wisdom of stone" and glimpsed the Primeval Current/Greater Will, as is Azur.
Azur's staff says: "When Azur glimpsed into the primeval current, he saw darkness. He was left both bewitched and fearful of the abyss."
The Nox opposed the Greater Will (and were forced underground as a result), and sought an Age of Stars heralded by a Lord of Night. Night was the basis for their whole society/religion (hence 'Nox', Latin for 'night'). They also relied on sorcery instead of incantations, connecting them to glintstone (and to the Dark Moon, connecting them in turn to Carian Royalty, but that's not so important here).
The Eternal Darkness sorcery (also found near Sellia) mentions the Eternal City and is referred to as "the despair that brought about its ruin made manifest". I think this is crucial to understanding what happened to the Nox, given the context provided by the DLC.
The Metyr questline in the DLC reveals that the Greater Will has been silent for a very, very long time (since long before even Marika's ascension to godhood). The world's primary god has functionally abandoned it, and only darkness - a deep, infinite, _eternal darkness_ - remains.
All of this information is the basis for the following speculation:
I think the Nox glimpsed the primeval current in their attempts to reach the stars. Instead of stars they found the truest form of the Night they revered - and realized it was either just the Greater Will again or the pitch-black absence of it. In either case, as a civilization defined by their rebellion against the Greater Will, I can't imagine they took this discovery well. Soon after, their civilization collapsed.
Inferring further, perhaps in their despair the Nox successfully beckoned the stars to hasten the Age of Stars/Lord of Night - but also successfully summoned Astel in much the same way, which proceeded to destroy them.
(also, it's possible this all ties into why Placidusax is Like That. Eternal slumber in a pose reminiscent of the Two Fingers (or Metyr); trying to contact the Greater Will, peering out into eternal darkness...)
There's definitely more to this, but this comment is long enough I think.
Alright, you blew me away at the end. I didn't connect as many dots as you did with the ancient races...but I've always had this feeling Miquella is simply being guided by Marika to follow in her footsteps only to be betrayed in the end.
All the children she had were just calculated plans and attempts to not only control the board but to pave the way until eventually the perfect child was born.
One that npcs in game and players irl had trouble distinguishing between. Miquella.
We know Marika has a bloody history and is not shy to use her children for war or banish them entirely. Why would we believe any of her whispers when her history is stained with betrayal.
She is Queen Eternal and plans to keep it that way. Perhaps taking over Miquella or sharing a body with him is her way of escaping her current prison and separating herself from Radagon.
It makes me wonder if the journey in the lands of shadow is a pilgrimage to becoming one with another. Is this how Marika fused with Radagon in the first place?
I made a Reddit post a few days ago about this but it didn't gain traction. I've always been sceptical of Marika's actions and Miquella being so mysterious compared to the attention the other children received felt off to me. Miquella the kindly may be the first truly good Fromsoft character, but that makes his character naive to the fact that his own mother has ill intentions regarding his fate. A sad story in itself.
All this really shot off when the preview came out and it was mentioned that Marika sanctioned Miquella to the Land of Shadow...a place where she became a god, and a place where she has her deepest secrets hidden.
I also made a joke post that Marika is an ant queen and Elden Ring is just a dark take on 'Honey I shrunk the Kids'....that was better received than my other theory. 🤣🤣🤣
You explaining it all like this reassures me I'm not entirely crazy.
Subscribed and liked, I can't wait to hear more of your thoughts on the lore. Thank you for the brain melt. 🤣🤙
Believe it or not, the next video I am releasing is very much along these lines 'Marika's Great Escape' essentially, but the method is what I am focusing on, which involves those.. calculated children- So I would argue you are very near correct :P
Apparently that item description was wrong btw, and it was addressed to mersmer, not miquella. However, I would argue this changes nothing, I can let you guess as to why hahaha
Thanks so much for the wonderful comment
@@ScumMageInfa Typo or not I think we're on to something.
Though mine was based on a hunch you did your research and I appreciate it!
I'm looking forward to your next video! No rush, but...uhhh....when!? 🤣🤙
@@thewhistler6537 Literally asap I won't lie to you I am hyperanalyzing carpet as we speak. 🤣 I am HOPING either today, or tomorrow, if I am really desperate the next day... But I REALLY wanna release it lol
@@thewhistler6537
the "Queen Eternal" theory of Marika seems most plausible for me. she was the one whom tore lands between into shreds, and wants it to remain this way.
@@arkeynserhayn8370 Easier to manipulate things that way, and she is clearly vying for godhood.
She is like Cersie low key lmao
Considering how much miquella learned from the underground cities, there's a connection with the "binding" magic you're talking about and the concept of compelling adoration that's ascribed to miquella a lot.
And, fun enough, the pink mist that comes out from the bewitching branches (Miquellas branches that uses his affection compelling) is the same pink as the eyes of the ants in the eternal cities who are being mind controlled, same colour as the fingers with pink jewels, and rannis jewelry.
👏👏👏👏 lfg Infa amazing work beautiful ❤ Especially for a first video 🥇
also tysm for so 🥺❤️
Thannkyou beautiful man ♡♡♡
Our chats have been priceless especially for keeping me from drowning lol
Love the soft talking because I fall asleep to these videos. Just subbed!
@moth._. thankyou kindly :)
I have adjusted the volume for the concrete drillers in the audience in the newest ones, but I tried to keep the soft aspect to it as well with the overall volume ♡ I hope they are as enjoyable 😁
Interesting they use the word "stock" to refer the Numen's relation to Marika. In nature a stock can refer to the trunk or main stem of a tree or another plant, onto which a scion is grafted to produce a stronger plant.
The same language is used for godwyn, GOLDEN SCION :P
And the black knives themselves are called scions of the eternal city.
@@ScumMageInfa Often times a plant with desirable fruit or flower will need to be grafted onto another plant in order to thrive in a different environment.
Remember that the original Japanese exists, so I wouldn’t take english so literally.
Phonetically, yes. The “stock” you are thinking of is spelled stalk. In this context it makes me think more like “live stock”.
@@Spookdookin Which would make sense, if you're looking at things from the Greater Will's perspective LOL
Man what a great video! And honestly I *like* the audio the way it is, it’s nice and soothing sounding kinda like Vaati’s. I like to put these on when I’m going to bed at night and then just keep rewatching them 827 more times so idk I’m a fan of this style of narration
Thankyou so much I appreciate it. 😁
The other one I just posted is a little louder BUT mostly it's just the option to turn the volume louder so it can still be quiet ♡
Great voice, great video, great narration, just uwu ❤
STOP IT, YOU
isnt it stated quite directly that the blind swordsman sealed the god of rot beneath a lake?
Absolutely. But where did the god of rot COME from? Perhaps, it was sealed from whence it came.
@@ScumMageInfa I'd always taken it as it being an outer god, since melania is aflicted by its "blessing" and miquellas needle which blocks the interferences of outer gods stops rot on people's bodies from spreading. So an entity similar to the formless mother or the blood star etc. I kinda doubt it "originates" from the lake of rot since you can tell it used to be a normal lake from its dead greenery. And the fact that you can find rot in the shadowlands that seems to predate most civilizations in the lands between. Plus there's heaps of dead bodies in a bunch of other places that has no correlation to rot
Love this theory, but the only disagree with is the reason for the lake of rot existing. I don’t remember what it was (i think the map), but an item description says that the blind swordsman who taught Malenia sealed away the Outer God of Rot there, and I’m pretty sure that the lake of rot is that God’s “essence” leaking over, hence the Pests, followers of the Rot.
yes, I know what you mean - The thing is, the blue swordsman may have sealed the god of rott, but where did the god of rott COME from? And WHEN did he seal it? :P
I would argue the giant lake of rott underground was created as runoff from this ritual, and the outer god of rott was 'summoned' to the lands between from it, as a sort of rott crucible lol
The Blue swordsman sealed this god later, however Malenia was born with the rott as punishment for Marika's involvement with the creation of the rott in the lands bewtween (Just like Morgott and Mogh were born as they are, as a result of her meddling with the erdtree's crucible)
@@ScumMageInfa I recommend a really good video that goes deeper on this than I can called Elden Ring is a Cosmic Horror masterpiece. It talks about a lot of these topics really well, plus others.
@@ScumMageInfa also, amazing first video, was shocked to see you only have a little above 500 subs
@ndroidryan7659 I may give that a watch! :D
It seems counter productive, but i try to steer clear of lore videos personally I like the process of figuring it all out in the game physically myself, and some of these lore tubers are too damn good at what they do! Lol like they are channeling spoilers from miyazaki himself
@@ndroidryan7659 thanks! I started with 2 subs.. I can't believe I'm at 500 already tbh LOL
With regard to the finger-slaying blade, I think when it says it was made from a corpse, I think it means literally the whole corpse, just like the Elden Beast turned Radagon into a sword. You can see the same design elements like the arms for the hilt and the vertebrae of the spine.
Also, from Wikipedia:
'In the poem, Fjölsviðr describes to the hero Svipdagr that Sinmara keeps the weapon Lævateinn within a chest, locked with nine strong locks.' Lævateinn is the blade that Loki sought to slay the rooster atop Yggdrasil, and Sinmara was the giantess who kept the blade safe in a chest.
The name 'Sinmara' has been associated with the word 'nightmare'. The twisted corpses in the Eternal City look very much like the faces in Bloodborne's Nightmare of Mensis area.
We have vaati at home
Vaati out here patenting a voice
Yeah, its kinda his signature thing dude. If you talked like Trump, everyone would know who youre talking like. Youre copying Vaati one to one.
Immediate sub this is fuckin peak content.
What a first video 🙌🏿
Thankyou so much!!
I hope you enjoy the next one just as much tbh I'm probably more excited for it than this one lol
Hi, do you noticed that the old one of demon's souls and the crucible are exactly the same thing?
Yes I totally agree
Either that, or it's like a bloated elden beast hahahaha
Great first video, well done.
Thankyou very much 😃
Notice how red(crimson), blue(cerulean) & purple are the literal colors of God in the old testament in the Books of Moses
That would explain why the original purple flame is capable of felling gods... >_>
i LOVE this theory that speak about the suggets with an interesting approch i never seen in any other place. I was a bit tired of always the same theory but i thinks yours is really interesting and original
the audio is super low but good vid despite that
Do you mean my voice? Or the music? Or both?
I didn't want the music to be too loud that it would interfere with my voice, and when I speak too loud the S's and P's are little mini ear nukes :')
I'll work on it! Thanks for the feedback :)
Cant wait to rewatch the loud version. Please rapid fire thoughts idc about visuals your ideas are great subbed
Uploading it as we speak ❤
Thanks for the compliment, I hope you like the next video as well, it'll be... very rapid-fire lol
Here is the loud version: ruclips.net/video/at8WkrxyhQc/видео.html
what was that, sonny?
Very sorry about the sound, am considering uploading a louder version 😅🤣
Here you are, this ones louder:
ruclips.net/video/at8WkrxyhQc/видео.html
your voice is so relaxing
dawg I cant hear a thing
So ive been told... I've gotten that a few times now, and I agree, it's a fine balancing act to avoid Ps and Ss assaulting peoples ears, and I have a mic cover already, but I'll try playing around with mixing in the video I'll release in the next day or so.
Sorry this time around, thanks for letting me know!
@@ScumMageInfa no problem! I personally would just go for a louder volume since the audience can just lower it if its too loud. But if its too low we cant go over 100% volume. Hopefully you can fix it next upload!
@@apolloisnotashirt I uploaded a louder version for those how required it:
ruclips.net/video/at8WkrxyhQc/видео.html
@@ScumMageInfa Thank you!!!
wow I can wait for more your content. super engaging and linking everything together in new ways
Thankyou! I actually only just released a new video :D It is up on the channel now, I hope you enjoy it as much ❤
It's placement just happened to be right above the ancient water ways of the nox.
Given the extensive sewers under the capital leading directly to the nameless city, perhaps there used to be a direct passage from the surface to the waterway below before the collapse.
And for those that don't know, in the 3 finger room there is an illusory wall that leads to the upper roots at the beginning of the nameless city area.
Aaaahhhhhhhhhhhh the room with the illusory wall
Now THATS SUPER fascinating. I'll have to have a good long think about that.
@@ScumMageInfa I might have had another discovery from watching this.
The CLAW. A slab of Rock. Finger like. With a ring. Marika/radagon are made of rock. And missing an arm.
It's long been suspected she had some involvement in the KoBK.
Could the claw be her finger? Who else could have gotten close enough to maliketh to steal it. How else did Marika betray him.
Also interesting is the ants purple eyes, where else do we see purple eyes? Two places. Blaidd the finger bound shadow of Ranni. And Melina, but only if she is alive after malikeths death. And the eye he gives up to hunt down death root is also purple.
@@alephnole7009 "Eye of the Beast"
Definitely worth investigating further, that's for sure.
Although the ants eyes are no purple- They are pink when mind controlled, like the gems around ranni's real body, the bejewlled finger creepers and miquellas enchanting branch,
I won’t harp on the volume issue since you’ve gotten enough of that, hahaha! As for the theory itself, I don’t know how much stock I put into it, but it’s a very interesting angle to approach things from. I wouldn’t be surprised if some parts are true, or at least truth-adjacent. Regardless, it’s a very well made video. Congrats on being new and getting something to pop off so early!
Hahahah thankyou for your mercy ♡
I really appreciate the compliment :)
I know! I had no idea it would get this much attention I'm low key overwhelmed lol I am gonna make damn sure the next one has flawless audio 😂😭
But lore video I've seen hands down. Address every element and even more, open up A LOT, and explores areas that lore explorers have not gone before. I don't think anyone has come up with your theory before, and frankly, I think it makes waaaay more sense than everyone elses. Everyone seems to stumble on theirs and have holes.
@loganhebert7475 Glad you liked it! Cannot wait to release the updated version, but my crucible video will be tonight instead :D
This is mostly just my speculation but the coffins that transport you have time magic attached to them. The one going up the waterfall is rewinding but ages to how it fell off the waterfall. This is a thing that’s happened before in fromsoft games. For instance in Bloodbourne after getting an invitation to Cain hurst castle you can find a secret horse and carriage waiting to take you to the castle. Once you are there though you turn around and the horses are dead. But not only are they dead but they have been long dead for ages.
this was sick. cool ideas. I think it would be really interesting if miquella was sacrificed to create messmer. I like the asmr voice
Oooo I'm keen for you to see the next video then :P
Thanks for the compliment ♡ I'll never get over my voice being referred to as ASMR content 😂
I don't care if it was quiet! I have a volume switch. This is a good video. The visuals were very nice. Thank you. Good job. 👍🏼
Thankyou very much! 😁
I know some people probably have worse setups or listen to it while doing the cleaning or some loud activity so, fair enough. I made the next video waaaaay louder hahahaha 😁
This is the problem with making speculative videos based on the trailer; you may wish to update based on what we now know about Marika and Miquella.
NGL I kind of can't really think of all that much I would change - Only that Radahn did what he did FOR Miquella and AGAINST Ranni- And how Plassy was injured.
Aside from that, I am pretty happy with my shot in the dark, and I WANTED to do it BEFORE the DLC in the chance I hit the nail on the head, and I feel like with a lot of it, I did.
@@ScumMageInfa hornsent, shamans, melding/grafting, the ritual to become a god (which Miquella undergoes), the curse placed on Marika to warp her children; there's a lot there. But I guess you can just make another video.
one thing you got wrong: the fingerslayer blade
it's not made from some chunk of some body, its made of a whole body.
it looks exactly like the sacred relic sword, but black and warped.
No I totally agree. I was speculating that since it says it's made OF A CORPSE I just figured perhaps it wasn't the whole thing.
A commenter and I had a back and forth about it potentially being one of Marikas babies (like the demigods in the mausoleums) since the blade is so small, which is ruthlessly brutal, and totally something marika would do 😂
Great video!thanks for your perspective.
Your timeline of the crucible is exactly how i feel about it,rather than all people thinking it was the beginning of life i think the crucible marks the beginning of marika'd godhood
Also your theory about the alabaster and onyx lords being tied to nueman is the best theory around neuman origin i have heared in two years of following the lore of this game as in people who come from meteor are from another world!
Thankyou for the massive compliment ♡
I hope the next video will interest you just as much, I'm probably more excited about it than this one to be honest, collecting the clips for it as we speak :D
@ScumMageInfa cant wait for your upcoming videos
Also your voice is very nice to listen to made the video much more enjoyable!good luck on the clip hunting and i hope you can get acsess to a pc with modding tools for better footage ♡
@@a-rah9001 Thankyou ❤Such generous words!
I have a good PC now, I am just gonna have to bite the bullet and buy elden ring on PC hahaha May as well, I am as obsessed as I am.
Next video will be soon, promise >.
Not sure if anybody has worked on translating the runes on the coffins yet, but these runes appear to be similar to the ones on the Velvet Sword of St Trina.
Thanks for sharing your theories! A lot of food for thought in here. I just wanted to point out that in the Japanese version of the Sellia's Secret note, the word for "source" is the same word for the primeval current. That word can in some contexts refer to the "source" of a river or tradition, but given that Lusat's staff and body are hidden in that area it seems likely to me that it's just supposed to reference the primeval current. Apologies if someone's already pointed this out; there were too many comments to read all of them and see if it had already been brought up.
This was a really damn good video, Kix sent me and i was NOT disappointed. I'm really excited to see your next few video!
Thankyou so much! ♡ kick said you're the sweetest and I believe it
@@ScumMageInfa Also wanted to say, if you ever wanna chat, need some help or anything like that, hmu. I'm sure Kix will happily give you my discord info lmao
@Rageikari thankyou so much I'll be sure to ask him :)
I love the video, and everything stands now that we have more of the DLC lore, and the only part that everything changes is that Placidusaxx missing heads are with Bayle as he lost them on their fight.
@rfxserrano7009 Thankyou 😁
Ikr, I felt heaps vindicated from the DLC Lore hahahah, I have the next video coming out soon which will follow miquellas ascendence, and the eerie similarities between what marika did to ascend, and what miquella did.
So excited to release itttttt!
I love the soft tone of this video
@@MetaDargon thankyou 😁
Seeing this reconciled with what we see in the DLC should be exciting.
Very well done. One of the best 'first' videos I've ever seen. I look forward to your future videos.
Thankyou very much! pouring my lifeforce into the next one as we speak hahaha
The audio mixing is fine if youre ready for ads and not wearing headphones. 😂
@@alliehayes7399 lmao I stg I will master it eventually..
Is my newest video any better??
@ScumMageInfa I'll make my way there! This is my first video of yours and it made me a subscriber, so the mixing couldnt be that bad. Great content 👌 keep it up!!
@alliehayes7399 Thankyou ♡ I hope the content is worth your and you enjoy it 🥰
New here. Love the "soft audio"! You have a really nice voice 😊
in the area just pre-astel, there are rot moshrooms covered in dew. Lots of them
My interpretation of the nameless city is that it was the old part of Lyndell between the main gates and the lower part where the dragon is. And after Godwyns death that part of the capital sank deep underground as punishment for that's where the assassins lived.
The rest of the capital was built around that older part of the city after Godfrey's reign.
HMMMMmmmm interesting theory, I always thought the old sector was more akin to sellia so maybe it was the INITIAL city there after the eternal cities sunk, and then leyndell was built over it after the age of the crucible to kinda pave over it in way for the age of the erdtree and golden order.
Placing events and times of events is so hard lmao
The Elden Ring Sequel will continue like this.
Elden Ring: The Unearthed Eternal City
Setting:
The Nameless Eternal City: Previously buried and only glimpsed in the background of Nokstella and Ainsel River. With Consort Radahn's death, the gravity magic that kept it sealed collapses, raising this long-forgotten city from its subterranean tomb.
Environmental Design: A sprawling city of obsidian-black towers, silver runes, and ethereal starlight, mixing the architectural beauty of Nokstella with the grandeur of Leyndell. Vast sections of the city are corrupted by ancient beasts, while others are preserved as pristine relics of pre-Erdtree times.
Theme: The city represents a forgotten truth-a time before the Erdtree and the Golden Order.
Plot:
Inciting Event: After Radahn's defeat, the gravitational forces binding the Eternal City break, causing its ruins to rise. Tarnished receive a new guidance of grace, leading them to uncover this unearthed domain.
Lore: The Nameless Eternal City was buried long before the age of the Erdtree, created by beings who revered the cosmos and the natural order. Marika, upon ascending to godhood, waged a war to suppress their influence, casting their legacy into oblivion.
Goal: Delve into the Eternal City to confront Marika's original self, who still lingers as a guardian against the Age of Stars.
Major NPCs:
1. Ranni the Witch: Guides the Tarnished throughout the Eternal City, gradually revealing its history and her ultimate plan to claim it as the seat of her Age of Stars.
2. Malenia (Phantom): Returns as an adversarial spirit, driven to protect Marika's legacy. This adds emotional weight and complexity to the narrative.
3. The Herald of the Void: A new NPC who represents the remnants of the Eternal City's creators. They provide cryptic warnings and lore hints.
Bosses:
1. The Celestial Tyrant: A cosmic, alien guardian that embodies the Eternal City's creators’ ancient power. It wields starlight-infused magic and gravity spells.
2. Malenia (Phantom): A new, spectral form of Malenia, with faster, more unpredictable moves and enhanced Scarlet Rot attacks.
3. Marika, the True Eternal: The final boss, a pure embodiment of Marika before she merged with Radagon. Wielding divine relics and light-based attacks, she fights with unmatched elegance and ferocity.
Post-Battle:
Choice: Upon defeating Marika, Ranni offers the Tarnished a chance to solidify the Age of Stars or usurp it, allowing multiple endings:
Age of Stars Ascension: Ranni takes the throne, with the Tarnished as her Lord, and the Eternal City becomes the heart of a reborn cosmic order.
Eternal Eclipse: The Tarnished betrays Ranni, seizing the Eternal City’s power for themselves, ushering an age of ambition and endless strife.
Gameplay Additions:
New Mechanics:
Celestial Runes: Special consumables that grant temporary buffs tied to starlight or gravity.
Cosmic Armaments: Weapons and spells that channel astral energy, blending magic and physical damage.
Exploration:
The city is multi-leveled, with hidden passageways, crumbling towers, and submerged ruins.
Unique celestial creatures and enemies populate the area, from spectral knights to giant star-beasts.
This concept feels like a natural progression of Elden Ring's world, tying up loose ends while expanding on its rich mythology.
The Lake of Rot is that way because of the sealing of the Outer God of Rot. It's described in the item description for the map in the area. Based on this as well as the Scorpion Stinger item description. It seems likely tied to Astel. Especially when you look at Astels tail and overall shape.
Surprised nobody has put a theory together for that one yet. The Gods power sealed away and shoved into darkness. Then sees the void through the darkness, becoming Astel and taking revenge on the city. Which is why 1 of the 3 cities is destroyed. And it's night sky was stolen by Astel when he warped back to his boss room.
- he can warp from place to place now after all
Yesssss I agree, I know that is where it was sealed but I think it is a good contender for how it gained entry to the lands between as well. Hmm. Hmm.. If the blind blue dancer is the one that did it and he existed in the time of Malenia to teach her... Lot of strange time placements i stg it is stifling mentally HAHAH
@@ScumMageInfa Yeah the overall timeline is probably the hardest thing to pin down in the lore LOL.
Drives a person mad trying to carefully connect the dots.
Because sometimes the timeline (or assumed timeline) gets in the way of cracking certain lore
@@PancakeBreakfast presently having my ass kicked by this very issue 😅😂
I'm so glad I found this channel. Great video and I like your voice. Waiting for the next one 👀
Thankyou! :) Very generous words- I will make sure the next one is worthy of them.
*Super quiet relaxing video* kamala LEMME JUST YELL THIS ADD
LMAO I am so sorry! There is a louder version in the pinned comment so maybe you won't be so assaulted by ads :'D
@ScumMageInfa nah your part is chilling the ads were just like what if we screamed.
Great video! I think you did a great job summarizing Marika's motives before and after ascending at the end, looking forward to the next one
Thankyou!!
The next one will be the next chapter of that essentially, showing marikas plan of escape from the greater will after the events of this video
I am legitimately so excited to post it and see what people think.
This was really interesting and great to follow.
With all the new lore in the DLC about Marika's connection to the shamans and their unique properties for melding flesh, I feel like your observations about the piles of bodies being numens make even more sense now. The DLC also seems to imply that Marika was traumatized in some way by the persecution of the shaman people for ritualistic purposes. So I wonder if whatever happened to the Numens (ending up in piles of dead bodies, possibly as a result of going against the Greater Will) might have been a repeat of what happened to the shamans and what might have ultimately broken Marika and turned her against the Greater Will.
Thankyou :)
Yeah IKR, I am still sifting through DLC content for further connections- Genuinely exciting stuff.
Fantastic detective work! Very excited to see your thoughts on the creation of messmer that you mentioned
Thanks! ❤
I am stitching the clips together for the video as we speak 😊
Oh my word I JUST noticed that the shape the black knives take (also the assassins dagger talismans) is that of a bird's talons! And tbose black bits in ghostflame spells are feathers. All features of the death birds. Whose ghostflame was the source of light and guidance for the dark leaden moon of nokstella. And possibly the hue of helphen.
Now that's neat.
Volume feels fine to me. Personally, I think the issue is that you seem to just descend into a whisper halfway through every sentence.
Like you really eneunciate when you start talking, and then it just tapers off into barely audible whispering the closer you get to that full stop, and then the cycle continues.
Banger video other than that, just thought I'd give my 2 cents
@niallmacrae6016 hahahaha thankyou
I actually think I have the volume worked out now. My new two videos seem to be getting positive feedback about the change of Audio mixing :P
Idk if anyone's said this but I always felt that 1 of 2 things happened to the inhabitants of there.
1. They had evacuated from the city to nokstella due to the golden orders presence above them
2. They were killed and buried with everything destroyed to be brought back to the erdtrees roots
Whatever it was, it wasn't good lol
@@ScumMageInfa Yeah definitely
This is phenomenal mate so glad i stimbled across this, love your narration style
Thankyou very much! :) I appreciate it
@@ScumMageInfa I really look forward to your future videos, this theory has really piqued my curiosity, especially hoe you linked so much to the shadow of the erd tree trailer
@@johnbuxton4484I am so excited to post the next one lol
There is a touch more speculation and it's a little different to how things have been looked at so far, but.. nonetheless I can't wait to see what people think lol
32:36 I believe this portion of the video is the one that deserves more merit and attention given the presence of the cerulean coast. Whats odd is the naming here, cerulean means blue but the coast has different colors... Now its kind of implied it might be the blood of the fallen drake but id like to really find some evidence for the color in that area, would be a neat thing to explore.
@@jeepeedurocher definitely worth taking a look at, NOTED! :)
Bro made an entire youtube channel to talk about some chairs. Jk this was very informative and completely shatters my timeline for elden ring you have given me much to think about. I wish we had more lore abour the albaster and onyx lords. Space elves??? Thats wild.
I noticed the other day that the scales on the scale armour of the Exile soldiers in Stormveil are the same as those on the Nox armour. Also, the Exiles' skin looks very dark, like that of the Nox. Also also, there is blue trim on the Exiles' armour, to go with their red hoods. Might be nothing, but I thought the similarity in the scales was noteworthy!