The only problem being, the 2022 version will stop receiving software updates 2 years before the 2024 version stops receiving software updates (AKA, planned obsolescence). Not a problem for many people, but for some people who stop using devices once they lose official support, this would effectively cut short the life of their new Kindle (new to them, not to the market) by 2 years, which may not be worth the money they save up front. Just something to remember.
Very interesting review. One thing I missed was comments on converting my writing to text on the Remarkable. Also, I was at Best Buy this week and the Remarkable seems less expensive.
I enjoyed every bit of this detailed smooth review, without diving into any technical information. I was carried away by kindle and remarkable until I watched this review. I just realized that I actually don't need any of them, iPad with ESR paper feel is exactly what suits my needs. Thanks bud ❤
If these two devices had a baby, it would be my dream e-ink tablet! I love the strong colours and continuous page scrolling on the RMPP (not to mention I'm a chronic note taker, so those extra features are ideal on the RMPP), but I also want to carry a smaller device with kindle access. My iPad hurts my eyes when writing on it, so I really do need a e-ink device, but the other colour e-ink tablet brands I'm unhappy with, and I can't decide between these two! I think you've sold me a bit more on the Kindle features so far, but I just keep thinking of how much I was desperately wanting colour before my RM2 broke! It's so hard up decide! 😫
@@christhompsonphotography6783 I found the scribe fairly useless for this. It sends my notes as a pdf or text. The PdF is basically a graphics file and the text format loses all of the formatting I had in my notes. If I wanted to, say, take meeting notes then put them into a Word doc to send out to my coworkers it simply can’t do that… I was better off just retyping my handwritten notes.
@@cward2986 is that just because of the more premium pen that the scribe 24 comes with over the basic boox one? I did finally decide after months of reviews to get the go 10.3 and have been very happy with the writing feel.
My issue with the Remarkable is the price. With a trade in, you can get 20% off the kindle, which has been revamped despite being a 22 model. A new pen, and a new feel on the screen. I tried both and I just can't justify the price on the pro. 700 is just pushing the limits. We're in ipad territory there.
one thing you forgot: what is about reading books - taking notes in the books or higlight things that are important for you. Can I get books from Amazon Kindle on the Remarkable ? Or do I have to rebuy books in pdf, epub or mobi format to geht them on the Remarkable ?
I can answer. I have the Remarkable paper pro and you can add pdfs or epubs to read but not kindle books. So if you have lots of Kindle books, you may wish to stay with that platform.
@@lorquino18 yes but it is highly dependant on the clarity of your handwriting. Even then, formatting is an issue. I don't bother using it. It is one of the reasons why I chose it, over an iPad and I wanted as simple a method as possible to take notes.
You seemed to suggest that e-ink tablets are like the Kindle Scribe and Remarkable pro as distraction free unlike "normal" tablets. However, there exist many e-ink tablets that run android, such as Boox, Bigme etc., that can use apps just like any android (or Apple) tablet.
Fantastic review, thank you. I'm hoping one day for a device like these that is: • the size of the Remarkable Pro when unfolded, but is foldable; • feels like the Kindle Scribe when writing, but writes with the smooth lines of the Remarkable; • has all the writing tools of the Remarkable Pro, plus more options; • perhaps even has color like Kindle ColorSoft; • has AI functionality with many useful tools -- esp. a mind map tool for note organization, + the 2 AI tools Amazon already offers • has the ability to connect to wifi and send/export documents (which are saveable in a variety of file types, not just .pdf or .jpg) to myself and others, perhaps even with the ability for live editing; • and perhaps most crucially, has a very good camera on the back of it, so that I can take photos [of documents, drawings, artworks, book pages, newspapers, web pages, etc.], see them on the digital notebook screen, and add notes/highlight/add drawings/etc. -- even better would be if I could actually edit the original image once it's on the screen, too (e.g. removing or rotating elements; being able to erase things instead of just being able to add things). That would be my dream digital notebook device. I really hope something like that is made soon! Honestly I think I'd be ok with none of the other features being in it, as long as it had the AI functionality / lots of AI tools, plus a camera, and the ability to save and send the notes as all kinds of file types.
Hey. Thanks for the vid, I'm actually looking for which option to take and your video was helpful. A few notes, though, that you didn't cover that are interesting for me: 1) are they capable of converting handwriting to digital text? If so, how good are they in comparison? 2) Are there highlighting/note taking capabilities for ebooks in those? how comfortable are those?
True. This is both a good and bad thing, the hardware is largely the same and still very powerful: 300PPI, magnetic open/close, front light with temperature control, ambient light sensor, orientation sensor, etc, etc. The improvements to the screen texture and the style are quite nice, the stylus is heavier and feels more premium. But people of the 2022 release still get all of the AI and other software improvements (in early next year) which is nice of Amazon to give us, they could've limited those to just the 2024 version as the AI stuff costs them extra to give us.
@@DigiDriftZone Actually, the latest update for 2022 has most of the exciting software improvements (bar the AI, I believe). This is certainly win for those of us who prefer the look of the 2022 edition but want the new features!
@the AI is coming in early 2025 too so we still get all the functionality. I managed to buy mine on sale for £160 with the premium pen and the new gen goes for £380 so quite a bargain :)
Do you have any recommendations for Pen adoptions for the Apple pen to make it feel like you’re writing more on paper then on glass? Like recommendations for the pin tip or anything of that nature? Also, I bought the screen that you’re talking about in this video because of you and it’s amazing. Thank you.
Thanks, glad you liked it! Unfortunately there's no landscape mode for writing on the Scribe. Edit: There are "vertical ruled" notebooks on the Scribe, so you can in theory write in landscape on those if you wanted to.
You're technically right about the bezel on the RMPP, but it's much more seamless and blends in better at the bottom than the black on for the Scribe on the side. In terms of thickness, the RMPP is actually slightly thinner, at 0.20" vs 0.22" for the Scribe. Not massive, but I think the more rounded frame on the Scribe makes it appear thicker than the actual 0.2" difference.
Great video! I cannot decide yet between any of those options (yes, even the ipad 😅) ... One relevant issue for me is how easy it is to share files, with Google Drive, for instance. I've heard that Remarkable is not very good at it (and you need to pay a subscription for it ), with iPad that's not a problem, but don't know how convenient Kindle would be to do that. I mean, not just importing PDFs and word files, but also in exporting those notes and files...
To my knowledge, you cannot sync with Drives. You can do a quick email to self share on the Kindle, or access them through the Kindle app (only view, no edit)
Just to confirm, is this a correct statement. The Kindle scribe turn your handwritten notes into type written notes, but the remarkable pro will not - true?
I don't know anything about the kindle scribe, that's why I'm watching this video but co-worker and everything I've read online supports that the Remarkable Pro will convert notes to text. My co-workers swears by the remarkable but that price is freaking steep.
how are people getting ebooks on the Remarkable Pro? It appears that Remarkable doesn't have an easily accessible store like Amazon's Kindle Store - this makes me think it's a bit of a pain to get new books on the Remarkable Pro which is a shame because the hardware appears to be quite a lot better
Correct. I noticed that slur shortly after publishing, and corrected that in the description and a pinned comment. (Seems I had looked at EU prices somehow, not sure how I got to $750!)
Good question. Visually, I prefer how the Scribe handles files and folders. But they both have good file management systems with a few filters to apply.
It defies the purpose if you want to focus on a distraction-freeish device that doesn't hurt your eyes. The Galaxy S Tabs do everything "better" but e-ink tablets are more or less only about writing and reading. Their slowness and simplicity (even Boox) are helping me much more to focus. For everything else I turn to my Tab S8.
@annvoy7698 yea i think everyone is different. It doesn't seem to bother my eyes and I can turn on distraction free mode. I just don't want to carry another device and the Tab s8 suits me well but I totally get what you're saying
The paperlike feel and displays are all very nice and all, but if I can't easily share or save my notes and documents to Google drive or one note to have them sync across my devices then it's still a no from me
Why do all reviewers float their hands when trying to write, can't you rest your hand normally when writting? you have to float? And one more point I think all of the note taking tablets are absolutely missing the point of their existance... why in the world would you have the ability to give user infinite space and canvas for writting anotating etc, but still limit them to one page just as they have "outside" of the device... insane... If there is a tablet that has functions like excalidraw!!! Or Freeform of apple, that's why I'd want a virtual device for writting... otherwise this is just a fancy way of paying more for paper page...
The AI Features (Handwriting improving & Summarization) are not available in Canada, Australia, and the U.K., i.e. outside the U.S.A. Very discouraging and a slap in the face for someone like me who has touted the Kindle Scribe from day one. In my opinion, no one should support this company unless/until this outrageous omission is corrected.
* CORRECTION: Remarkable Pro is at $579/$629 USD with Marker Plus.
Kindle Scribe 2024: amzn.to/4ilNuap
Remarkable Pro: amzn.to/3D2HCD3
ESR Paper-Feel: amzn.to/3D84wsI
That description - ballpoint pen on a paper on glass table- made so much sense. I immediately got exactly what you mean thank you!
Happy to hear that made sense! Thanks for your comment
Your description of the pen on glass feeling was excellent and made perfect sense
Glad to hear! Thanks!
No your analogy was great at 8:33
Happy to hear that, thanks!
If you have the 2022 Kindle Scribe or want to spend less money, the latest update has all the software improvements of the 2024 version.
Thanks for sharing!
The only problem being, the 2022 version will stop receiving software updates 2 years before the 2024 version stops receiving software updates (AKA, planned obsolescence). Not a problem for many people, but for some people who stop using devices once they lose official support, this would effectively cut short the life of their new Kindle (new to them, not to the market) by 2 years, which may not be worth the money they save up front.
Just something to remember.
This is the best review I've seen so far. Thanks man
Glad to hear! Thanks for your comment!
The best Review I have watched on RUclips. Quality, attention to detail and professionalism is top drawer. Congratulations Rawan
Thank you, really appreciate your comment!
Great video, thank you for taking the time to explain. This definitely helped me make a decision which I will buy- Thank you again.
Glad this was of help!
I love how many times he described the kindle features as “remarkable” 😂
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Very interesting review. One thing I missed was comments on converting my writing to text on the Remarkable. Also, I was at Best Buy this week and the Remarkable seems less expensive.
I enjoyed every bit of this detailed smooth review, without diving into any technical information. I was carried away by kindle and remarkable until I watched this review. I just realized that I actually don't need any of them, iPad with ESR paper feel is exactly what suits my needs. Thanks bud ❤
Thanks a lot for your comment, happy you enjoyed the content!
If these two devices had a baby, it would be my dream e-ink tablet! I love the strong colours and continuous page scrolling on the RMPP (not to mention I'm a chronic note taker, so those extra features are ideal on the RMPP), but I also want to carry a smaller device with kindle access. My iPad hurts my eyes when writing on it, so I really do need a e-ink device, but the other colour e-ink tablet brands I'm unhappy with, and I can't decide between these two!
I think you've sold me a bit more on the Kindle features so far, but I just keep thinking of how much I was desperately wanting colour before my RM2 broke! It's so hard up decide! 😫
I dont care about either of these two, but man, your calligraphy is amazing
Thanks!! 😅
I'm totally agree with you
wtp😂
thank you for a very thorough and helpful review!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great job reviewing and comparing!!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
An important issue that I would like you to have addressed is ability to export notes. That is key for many.
Very fair point--thanks, will keep that in mind for future reviews.
The Scribe allows you to email yourself and it will transcribe your hand written to types notes, OR it can just send the hand written notes.
Also, Importing PDFs on the scribe and marking them up. The Scribe is perfect for engineering 😊
@@christhompsonphotography6783
I found the scribe fairly useless for this. It sends my notes as a pdf or text. The PdF is basically a graphics file and the text format loses all of the formatting I had in my notes.
If I wanted to, say, take meeting notes then put them into a Word doc to send out to my coworkers it simply can’t do that… I was better off just retyping my handwritten notes.
@@stevelovescars oof, that's really good to know, as that would be an annoying problem to discover. Thanks for sharing.
Excellent review and suggestions for one's use cases.
Happy to hear that, thanks for your comment!
Scribe 2024 vs boox go 10. 3 is what i'd love to see! Especially what the writing feel is.
Boox being susceptible to random screen damage and having a terribly functioning service and returns kills the product for me
Used Boox for less than a year- screen failure in pixels.
The writing feel on the 2024 Scribe is way WAY nicer than on the BOOX Go 10.3. I wish I could get that same feel on a more versatile tablet.
@@cward2986 is that just because of the more premium pen that the scribe 24 comes with over the basic boox one? I did finally decide after months of reviews to get the go 10.3 and have been very happy with the writing feel.
Hi I want to buy one for my Bible study and taking notes with the ability to add photo and drawings etc what should I buy as I’m confused?
I use a Apple mini7 with a papermate cover screen protector and it works quite well. I will also be buying a scribe soon.
My issue with the Remarkable is the price. With a trade in, you can get 20% off the kindle, which has been revamped despite being a 22 model. A new pen, and a new feel on the screen.
I tried both and I just can't justify the price on the pro. 700 is just pushing the limits. We're in ipad territory there.
outstanding review - thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
one thing you forgot: what is about reading books - taking notes in the books or higlight things that are important for you. Can I get books from Amazon Kindle on the Remarkable ? Or do I have to rebuy books in pdf, epub or mobi format to geht them on the Remarkable ?
I can answer. I have the Remarkable paper pro and you can add pdfs or epubs to read but not kindle books. So if you have lots of Kindle books, you may wish to stay with that platform.
@@markmoreno7295can you get the written notes to actual typing text?
@@lorquino18 yes but it is highly dependant on the clarity of your handwriting. Even then, formatting is an issue. I don't bother using it. It is one of the reasons why I chose it, over an iPad and I wanted as simple a method as possible to take notes.
You seemed to suggest that e-ink tablets are like the Kindle Scribe and Remarkable pro as distraction free unlike "normal" tablets. However, there exist many e-ink tablets that run android, such as Boox, Bigme etc., that can use apps just like any android (or Apple) tablet.
Fair point--my remark took into account the 2 tablets in question here which are distraction-free
@@RawansReviews No probs, otherwise very good discussion on the pros and cons of scribe vs remarkable pro.
Fantastic review, thank you.
I'm hoping one day for a device like these that is:
• the size of the Remarkable Pro when unfolded, but is foldable;
• feels like the Kindle Scribe when writing, but writes with the smooth lines of the Remarkable;
• has all the writing tools of the Remarkable Pro, plus more options;
• perhaps even has color like Kindle ColorSoft;
• has AI functionality with many useful tools -- esp. a mind map tool for note organization, + the 2 AI tools Amazon already offers
• has the ability to connect to wifi and send/export documents (which are saveable in a variety of file types, not just .pdf or .jpg) to myself and others, perhaps even with the ability for live editing;
• and perhaps most crucially, has a very good camera on the back of it, so that I can take photos [of documents, drawings, artworks, book pages, newspapers, web pages, etc.], see them on the digital notebook screen, and add notes/highlight/add drawings/etc. -- even better would be if I could actually edit the original image once it's on the screen, too (e.g. removing or rotating elements; being able to erase things instead of just being able to add things).
That would be my dream digital notebook device. I really hope something like that is made soon! Honestly I think I'd be ok with none of the other features being in it, as long as it had the AI functionality / lots of AI tools, plus a camera, and the ability to save and send the notes as all kinds of file types.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! That would indeed be one heck of a device ;)
You can also get the iPad Pro nano to reduce glare and eye strain and have a more enjoyable writing experience compared to the glossy.
Thanks for the review. Can any of them do screen recording?
Hey. Thanks for the vid, I'm actually looking for which option to take and your video was helpful. A few notes, though, that you didn't cover that are interesting for me:
1) are they capable of converting handwriting to digital text? If so, how good are they in comparison?
2) Are there highlighting/note taking capabilities for ebooks in those? how comfortable are those?
its not 2nd gen!! its said on page itself 1st gen revamp
True. This is both a good and bad thing, the hardware is largely the same and still very powerful: 300PPI, magnetic open/close, front light with temperature control, ambient light sensor, orientation sensor, etc, etc. The improvements to the screen texture and the style are quite nice, the stylus is heavier and feels more premium. But people of the 2022 release still get all of the AI and other software improvements (in early next year) which is nice of Amazon to give us, they could've limited those to just the 2024 version as the AI stuff costs them extra to give us.
@@DigiDriftZone Actually, the latest update for 2022 has most of the exciting software improvements (bar the AI, I believe). This is certainly win for those of us who prefer the look of the 2022 edition but want the new features!
@the AI is coming in early 2025 too so we still get all the functionality. I managed to buy mine on sale for £160 with the premium pen and the new gen goes for £380 so quite a bargain :)
Calm down. All you do is troll scribe reviews and yell that it isn’t gen 2. Sounds like someone is upset they have the gen 1 scribe lol
@ they are both gen 1 according to Amazon’s own listing…
Awesome review
Thanks, appreciated!
How do they organize/ manage files? Search option?
Do you have any recommendations for Pen adoptions for the Apple pen to make it feel like you’re writing more on paper then on glass? Like recommendations for the pin tip or anything of that nature? Also, I bought the screen that you’re talking about in this video because of you and it’s amazing. Thank you.
Hey, just a suggestion, could you put in "B rolls" to show the problems you mentioned around 0:40.
Good suggestion--noted. Thanks!
Very complete and useful comparison! Congrats for the video! In Scribe can you use it a landscape mode for taking notes?
Thanks, glad you liked it! Unfortunately there's no landscape mode for writing on the Scribe. Edit: There are "vertical ruled" notebooks on the Scribe, so you can in theory write in landscape on those if you wanted to.
I am noticing the reMarkable Paper Pro has much less glare under your camera light.
2:46 - there is a bezel at the bottom; and the Scribe is thinner, not the RMPP .But agree RMPP looks more premium
You're technically right about the bezel on the RMPP, but it's much more seamless and blends in better at the bottom than the black on for the Scribe on the side. In terms of thickness, the RMPP is actually slightly thinner, at 0.20" vs 0.22" for the Scribe. Not massive, but I think the more rounded frame on the Scribe makes it appear thicker than the actual 0.2" difference.
You have beautiful handwriting.
Thanks!
What about Remarkable Paper pro vs. Supernote Manta?
Too bad that the Kindle Scribe 10.3" is not yet the color, on the other hand the reMarKable 11.8" offers a screen too big for taking notes.
Terrific. Bravo!
Thanks!
What about the pencils? They need to be recharged?
Pencils don't need to be charged!
Great video! I cannot decide yet between any of those options (yes, even the ipad 😅) ... One relevant issue for me is how easy it is to share files, with Google Drive, for instance. I've heard that Remarkable is not very good at it (and you need to pay a subscription for it ), with iPad that's not a problem, but don't know how convenient Kindle would be to do that. I mean, not just importing PDFs and word files, but also in exporting those notes and files...
To my knowledge, you cannot sync with Drives. You can do a quick email to self share on the Kindle, or access them through the Kindle app (only view, no edit)
Canyou pinch to zoom?
Can you read books on the remarkable?
Can books be read in remarkable.
Ironically, the author uses the “remarkable” word more on Kindle compared to Remarkable
The irony ;)
BADABOOM TSSSS 🥁
Thanks for the very accurate video and information provided!
Happy to hear the review was helpful!
i have the iriginal scribe. its a good device
Just to confirm, is this a correct statement. The Kindle scribe turn your handwritten notes into type written notes, but the remarkable pro will not - true?
I don't know anything about the kindle scribe, that's why I'm watching this video but co-worker and everything I've read online supports that the Remarkable Pro will convert notes to text. My co-workers swears by the remarkable but that price is freaking steep.
The remarkable pro out of the box has AI. From handwritten to text. 11:00
No. That's for the Kindle.
how are people getting ebooks on the Remarkable Pro? It appears that Remarkable doesn't have an easily accessible store like Amazon's Kindle Store - this makes me think it's a bit of a pain to get new books on the Remarkable Pro which is a shame because the hardware appears to be quite a lot better
I don't think the remarkable is meant for reading books.
can't you use Kindle app on Remarkable??
Remarkable doesn’t have any apps.
No
The Remarkable Paper Pro starts at $579 with the standard pen. Not $750. Even with the upgraded pen it still starts at $629. 🤔
Correct. I noticed that slur shortly after publishing, and corrected that in the description and a pinned comment. (Seems I had looked at EU prices somehow, not sure how I got to $750!)
11:07 - re: Kindle's AI: "The last two lines that were barely legible - 100% accuracy. That is quite reMarkable!" 😃
😉
What do you think about the file management system?
Good question. Visually, I prefer how the Scribe handles files and folders. But they both have good file management systems with a few filters to apply.
Kindle build quality is terrible-mine had a gap between the screen and the frame and I could see the USB port circuit!
Don't bend it like a piece of paper and it will be fine... Have had mine since release with zero issues.
Galaxy tab s with s pen?
It defies the purpose if you want to focus on a distraction-freeish device that doesn't hurt your eyes.
The Galaxy S Tabs do everything "better" but e-ink tablets are more or less only about writing and reading. Their slowness and simplicity (even Boox) are helping me much more to focus. For everything else I turn to my Tab S8.
@annvoy7698 yea i think everyone is different. It doesn't seem to bother my eyes and I can turn on distraction free mode. I just don't want to carry another device and the Tab s8 suits me well but I totally get what you're saying
I love my kindle scribe much better for my meetings
The paperlike feel and displays are all very nice and all, but if I can't easily share or save my notes and documents to Google drive or one note to have them sync across my devices then it's still a no from me
Why do all reviewers float their hands when trying to write, can't you rest your hand normally when writting? you have to float? And one more point I think all of the note taking tablets are absolutely missing the point of their existance... why in the world would you have the ability to give user infinite space and canvas for writting anotating etc, but still limit them to one page just as they have "outside" of the device... insane... If there is a tablet that has functions like excalidraw!!! Or Freeform of apple, that's why I'd want a virtual device for writting... otherwise this is just a fancy way of paying more for paper page...
dont say tablet if the device cannot browse the web or download apps!!
No one makes an in depth review about pdf reading. Otherwise this gem is just another useless toy.
The AI Features (Handwriting improving & Summarization) are not available in Canada, Australia, and the U.K., i.e. outside the U.S.A. Very discouraging and a slap in the face for someone like me who has touted the Kindle Scribe from day one. In my opinion, no one should support this company unless/until this outrageous omission is corrected.