Great video! I love Engineer spear. Absolutely the best of the new spear class skill sets. Condi Mech finally does not have to sacrifice damage by taking CC skills. For open world I would also recommend changing grenade kit to flamethrower kit and taking Jaggernaut trait from Firearms tree. It grants nearly infinite Stability, which can be extremely useful for world bosses and few meta events. In addition, flamethrower is perfect for tagging enemies and still provides decent damage (significantly lower than grenades, although).
I had a mechanist that I had not paid in ages. I pulled it out of mothballs when I got access to spears for all my toons. Your video really helped in pulling together a much better open world build. Many thanks!
I must slightly disagree what you say in passing at the start. You pair Grenade Kit with Spear but you pair Bomb Kit with Pistol/Pistol. This way you match the cooldowns which means easier rotation which usually leads to better dps.
It's been on my Radar, but condi mech is just too simple and strong in comparison. You'll just get higher damage with condi mech unless you really practice and master holo
@@MaselMMO Ok, thx for reply, wanted to do holo spear BC i just cant stand mech, will try to make my build but it will never be as strong as my spear rene, still thanks
@missk1697 the strike damage portion on this condi build is fairly small (~20% of total damage WITH kits, without its gonna be a good bit smaller) Adding 12% to that with an additive modifier isn't all that impactful. The CC is nice, so it's not a bad option per se but I'd still take the turret over it in most cases. If you want CC I'd take a dedicated CC skill like battering ram or throw mine. Force signet has a relatively long CD for rather low defiance bar damage. Throw mine is an explosion, so it mat apply bleeding as well.
For the openworld build, do you find that you are able to maintain a good uptime on vuln? Whats your range of stacks on vuln? I was thinking of replacing the torment sigil with sigil of frailty for soloing bosses.. or would it be enough to maintain 25vuln on the openworld build posted?
@RafaelContemplacion frailty sigils aren't good in PvE. Aside from the fact that you maintain close to 25 stacks on this build, I wouldn't use them on any other build either. They only work on one target, likely become useless whenever you are not alone and take a bunch of seconds to become better than a standard dps sigil. Take a bursting sigil for example, which works on multiple enemies, works immediately, is always beneficial and can be used in other game modes. If you have legendary gear and want the hassle of swapping them in and out for a minor gain, go ahead. For anyone else, do not use them, it's a waste of resources for a very niche scenario.
@@MaselMMO valid points i could agree with, except for the part that hizen “made people waste money on sigils” that are not meta/useable in other instances perse, but i could definitely understand why you feel that way as i think he caters to a different demograph and a very different playstyle. What I don’t understand is the need to point out individuals that were not regarded for in my previous statements when in fact i was just curious about the sigil’s mechanics. Why the hate on other theorycrafters?
@RafaelContemplacion well, there's a history behind that. I've pointed out the issues I mentioned (and others) underneath his videos multiple times in a constructive way (see his latest celestial video for example), only to get attacked by some of his fans over discord every time I did that. From the very start, people have interpreted my constructive criticism as "hate", but it never was. Just like you did now. Hate would've been stuff like: "his builds are garbage, don't use them and he's trash too". I never said that anywhere, because it isn't true. The builds are great for what they're designed to do, but there’s no consideration of money spent or efficiency across game modes in them, which is something that one could make people aware of without being treated as a hatemonger. If someone finds stuff to criticise in my builds, I'm more than open to adapt and improve them. (Nonetheless, I edited the comment to take out the part mentioning names)
@@MaselMMO i think there's nothing wrong with what you or him are trying to do, probably misinterpreted by fans of a different community I suppose. I do believe that players SHOULD be smart enough to understand that some builds are meant to be played in solo and some builds are meant to be played in instanced/grouped (and if they aren't then that's on them). Maybe if we just stick to whatever we think is okay and stop forcing others on the same idea (especially those who want to play completely different playstyles), the community would move towards a better direction instead of spiraling into an endless debate of different playstyles and mindsets. Lastly, I would like to thank you for this video as changing from explosives to alchemy helped me move forward with my open world mechanist build
Great video! I love Engineer spear. Absolutely the best of the new spear class skill sets. Condi Mech finally does not have to sacrifice damage by taking CC skills.
For open world I would also recommend changing grenade kit to flamethrower kit and taking Jaggernaut trait from Firearms tree. It grants nearly infinite Stability, which can be extremely useful for world bosses and few meta events. In addition, flamethrower is perfect for tagging enemies and still provides decent damage (significantly lower than grenades, although).
I had a mechanist that I had not paid in ages. I pulled it out of mothballs when I got access to spears for all my toons. Your video really helped in pulling together a much better open world build. Many thanks!
…what? 😂
Dont know why I rarely see mech these days , condi mech still easy and strong
Saubere Arbeit! Liebe deine guides!
Danke für die videos und die schriftlichen Ausführungen 😊
welcome back, cool stuff like always, thanks and waiting for more
Thank you for the good guide. I love using the eng. spear for scrapper too :)
Nice, good explanation on the trait synergy 👍
The spear build is a lot of fun to play
cant wait for the guardian ones :D
weird you say in the video to use j drive on the open world build but are actually using dynamo in your gameplay and the graphic you put up.
Will this be a good build for raids? I would like to switch my mechanic from Hammer to Spear for raids and strike missions 😅
I must slightly disagree what you say in passing at the start. You pair Grenade Kit with Spear but you pair Bomb Kit with Pistol/Pistol. This way you match the cooldowns which means easier rotation which usually leads to better dps.
hi Masel, question can you do build for condi holo for pve, love that combo but cant get a feel for fluid rotation?
It's been on my Radar, but condi mech is just too simple and strong in comparison. You'll just get higher damage with condi mech unless you really practice and master holo
@@MaselMMO Ok, thx for reply, wanted to do holo spear BC i just cant stand mech, will try to make my build but it will never be as strong as my spear rene, still thanks
Are you sure flame turret is better/ higher DPS than force signet for extra +12% strike damage and cc on demand?
@missk1697 the strike damage portion on this condi build is fairly small (~20% of total damage WITH kits, without its gonna be a good bit smaller)
Adding 12% to that with an additive modifier isn't all that impactful. The CC is nice, so it's not a bad option per se but I'd still take the turret over it in most cases. If you want CC I'd take a dedicated CC skill like battering ram or throw mine. Force signet has a relatively long CD for rather low defiance bar damage. Throw mine is an explosion, so it mat apply bleeding as well.
For the openworld build, do you find that you are able to maintain a good uptime on vuln? Whats your range of stacks on vuln?
I was thinking of replacing the torment sigil with sigil of frailty for soloing bosses.. or would it be enough to maintain 25vuln on the openworld build posted?
@RafaelContemplacion frailty sigils aren't good in PvE. Aside from the fact that you maintain close to 25 stacks on this build, I wouldn't use them on any other build either.
They only work on one target, likely become useless whenever you are not alone and take a bunch of seconds to become better than a standard dps sigil. Take a bursting sigil for example, which works on multiple enemies, works immediately, is always beneficial and can be used in other game modes.
If you have legendary gear and want the hassle of swapping them in and out for a minor gain, go ahead.
For anyone else, do not use them, it's a waste of resources for a very niche scenario.
@@MaselMMO valid points i could agree with, except for the part that hizen “made people waste money on sigils” that are not meta/useable in other instances perse, but i could definitely understand why you feel that way as i think he caters to a different demograph and a very different playstyle.
What I don’t understand is the need to point out individuals that were not regarded for in my previous statements when in fact i was just curious about the sigil’s mechanics. Why the hate on other theorycrafters?
@RafaelContemplacion well, there's a history behind that.
I've pointed out the issues I mentioned (and others) underneath his videos multiple times in a constructive way (see his latest celestial video for example), only to get attacked by some of his fans over discord every time I did that.
From the very start, people have interpreted my constructive criticism as "hate", but it never was. Just like you did now. Hate would've been stuff like: "his builds are garbage, don't use them and he's trash too". I never said that anywhere, because it isn't true. The builds are great for what they're designed to do, but there’s no consideration of money spent or efficiency across game modes in them, which is something that one could make people aware of without being treated as a hatemonger.
If someone finds stuff to criticise in my builds, I'm more than open to adapt and improve them.
(Nonetheless, I edited the comment to take out the part mentioning names)
@@MaselMMO i think there's nothing wrong with what you or him are trying to do, probably misinterpreted by fans of a different community I suppose. I do believe that players SHOULD be smart enough to understand that some builds are meant to be played in solo and some builds are meant to be played in instanced/grouped (and if they aren't then that's on them). Maybe if we just stick to whatever we think is okay and stop forcing others on the same idea (especially those who want to play completely different playstyles), the community would move towards a better direction instead of spiraling into an endless debate of different playstyles and mindsets.
Lastly, I would like to thank you for this video as changing from explosives to alchemy helped me move forward with my open world mechanist build
what if i use rifle instead dual pistol?
Rifle is a power weapon.