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Originally, the production crew hadn't reached out to Frank Miller for approval on their homage. "It was actually Paul Levitz who found out that we were doing the episode and said, 'You'd better call Frank,' cause they like to keep him happy," noted Timm. "Sure enough, I had to make that phone call, but he was all for it." "He was like, 'Yeah, go for it. I'm curious to see how it's going to come out.' That was his one stipulation, 'just make sure I get a copy of it when you're done.'" Bruce Timm has stated Miller was enthusiastic about the portrayal of his work. "He called back three times to talk to me about it. He was just raving. Every phone message that he left was longer than the previous one. Dick Sprang was given a tape of the episode.
@@fabianrocha9924 joel schumacher is the director of batman forever and Batman + Robin. I don’t think he has any relation to Michael but I could be wrong
The first “Legend” was a huge homage to the 1950s silver age Batman stories. The Dick Sprang/Jerry Robinson era where they’d always fight villains on giant versions of things (giant pianos/instruments/typewriters etc) and Batman and Robin would always get trapped in death traps and would need to escape!
Not exactly. It's actually based on the original Golden Age Batman comics by Dick Sprang. The 60's show took ELEMENTS from that, but those connections here, are a coincidence.
Michael Ironside is such a perfect Frank Miller Batman. I was very disappointed when they didn't cast him in the two animated movies based on TDKR but Weller did a great job in that as well. What I'd give to hear Ironside say the "I want you to remember" speech to Superman though.
There is a similar story in the Gotham Knight anthology called Have I Got a Story For You. Gotham Knight is set between Batman Begins and The Dark Knight starring Kevin Conroy as Christian Bale's Batman.
Batman: Gotham Knights is very similar to this episode. It's an anthology movie that takes place between Batman Begins and The Dark Knight and is done in anime style and is amazing.
1:57 no but this was how he looked when he made his comic debut, which is why I'm glad Brave and the Bold series went with this look to make it feel old school in modern times. In fact I think this short inspired the look for the Brave and the Bold series, but the silver age comics was the influence origin of course. 4:37 by the way, that's little Joel Schumacher, based on the director. It's more of a hated cameo than a positive one since the creators hated "Forever" and "Batman & Robin 97". The Dark Knight Returns has always been a huge influence between The Dark Knight Rises and Zack Syder's vision of Batman. Bat tank says it all.
Yeah. I wish they would do those off shoot movies to the DCAMU because I think they're often far better. Everything prior to Flashpoint Paradox is much better too.
Definitely! TDKR part 1 & 2 are (imo) the best batman movies to date. Perfect story, perfect animation, perfect pacing and PERFECT castings for the versions of those characters
Michael Mckean was also in TDKR animated movie as Jokers therapist and Kevin Michael Richardson is the voice of Joker in The Batman 2004 series, and nails it!
Just a heads up for people who might not know: They're planning to watch the Batwoman movie, but it's going to be a Friday movie reaction. That means after Mad Love they're going to be going to the next poll show.
When discussing the genesis of this story's concept, Bruce Timm stated it was inspired by his thoughts on Batman Forever. "I was just sitting around one day at home, and it just kinda came to me. I was thinking about how there's all these different versions of Batman, and they're all valid, but - The Adam West show all the way up to The Dark Knight and the movies, you may have a favorite version of your own, but they're all still Batman. You couldn't get any more different than The Dark Knight and Adam West. So I just came up with the idea that if we did an anthology that showed the different extremes, it would be a lot of fun and a challenge, and we just took it from there."
The one other homage they incorporated into this is the episode title. "Legends of the Dark Knight" was a Batman comic that started in the early 90's (IIRC), and was a vehicle for various creative teams to do out-of-continuity Batman stories.
I am shocked that their first or at least second role they thought of for Michael McKean wasn't that he was Smallville's Perry White. I go to Spinal Tap, Lenny & Squiggy, SNL, Coneheads, Best in Show, A Mighty Wind, but amazed they didnt think of Smallville. Fun Fact: He's married to Ma Kent Annette O'Toole.
The Dark Knight Returns parts 1 & 2 are worth checking out. There's also a segment in the anthology movie Batman: Gotham Knight that resembles this episode, with kids talking about the urban legend of Batman.
I like to set up a sub because of how much , It pays tribute to classic batman stories, I didn't get the reference at first Because I was a kid, but now I do.
13:07 Michael McKean was also Perry White in Smallville and he is married to Annette O'Toole AKA Marths Kent in Smallville and Lana Lang in Superman III. And of course lead singer David St. Hubbins in This is Spinal Tap. 10:21 Also, you should watch the 2 part The Dark Knight Returns animated movie, even if you don't react to it, you need to see it, it is great.
Even though they didn't animate anything for the third kid, I think his version is either a reference to Manbat or the Elseworld Batman and Dracula trilogy where Batman is a vampire.
Back in the Golden Age, once the writers were told Batman couldn't go around machine-gunning monster-men or dispatching vampires anymore, they gave him Robin and started leaning "wacky." That's when fully-functional giant objects began appearing all over Gotham; giant musical instruments, giant typewriters, giant pennies, even giant guns. They've been parodied in every media iteration of Batman since (the '66 TV series did a few as death traps, including a giant advertisement coffee pot that poured real boiling liquid into a cup), but my favorite is the "early years" Batgirl story in which we learn Gotham City ultimately outlawed such displays due to supervillain abuse.
The framing story itself is based (ETA: as you guys looked up yourselves, whoopsie) on a '70s comic of the same title, in which Bruce Wayne takes some "less fortunate" Gotham kids on a camping trip and listens to their fanciful visions of the Dark Knight around the campfire. One kid imagines Bats as a super-tech Black man (one day this would inspire the character Batwing), another thinks he's a mashup of Man-Bat and Superman, a human bat who hunts criminals with x-ray vision and punches them through walls. Insanely, when the arguing brats turn to Bruce to ask what HE thinks, he leaps out of the shadows in full bat-costume (!) only for the kids to laugh him off and go to bed while Batman muses that his appearance only strikes fear in the hearts of criminals, not children.
That’s usually how it is in the comics to (at least in the post crisis era when these shows would’ve released) Diana is the youngest Amazon and isn’t created till modern day.
You guys HAVE to react to *The Dark Knight Returns!* Part 1 and 2. I think they have a version where they’re put together as one movie too. They’re great movies and great adaptation of Frank Miller’s comic.
EDIT: Yup, knew it! Those scenes and his bulky design are iconic. Okay, I haven’t read it but from what I’ve learned about it I’m positive that “Fat Bat” one was based on Dark Knight Returns. That was really freaking neat.
If you haven’t seen it yet, you should watch The Dark Knight Returns part 1 and 2 animated movies. They’re pretty good adaptations of the Frank Miller story
The kid named Joel and his comments about the flashier aspects of Batman are a pretty obvious jab at Joel Schumacher. This episode came out only a year after Batman & Robin.
The start of Brave and the Bold's artstyle and retro humor plus a loving tribute to The Dark Knight Returns with Michael Ironside as old Batman. Very unique episode, but there *is* one bit of media with a similar format- the first segment of Gotham Knight. Hope you watch that some day. What version of Batman would you have wanted for a 3rd story? Keep in mind it needs to be distinct and likely exaggerated.
@@WhiteFangofWar Sure, but you don't have to make that one super-gritty, just high-tech and talks different from Kevin Conroy and maybe seems very paladin-like self-righteous.
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Originally, the production crew hadn't reached out to Frank Miller for approval on their homage. "It was actually Paul Levitz who found out that we were doing the episode and said, 'You'd better call Frank,' cause they like to keep him happy," noted Timm. "Sure enough, I had to make that phone call, but he was all for it." "He was like, 'Yeah, go for it. I'm curious to see how it's going to come out.' That was his one stipulation, 'just make sure I get a copy of it when you're done.'"
Bruce Timm has stated Miller was enthusiastic about the portrayal of his work. "He called back three times to talk to me about it. He was just raving. Every phone message that he left was longer than the previous one.
Dick Sprang was given a tape of the episode.
Dick Sprang sounds like a porn name. :P
Btw I don't know if you guys noticed but the kid Joel in front of the "shoe maker" store is a reference to Joel Schumacher.
hence why he was talking about loving "all the black rubber" of his suit and his "big muscles"
@@thewerewolff7248 and mentioning that the Batmobile can drive up walls like in Batman Forever.
Who is Joel Schumacher? Is he related to Michael Schumacher?
@@fabianrocha9924 joel schumacher is the director of batman forever and Batman + Robin. I don’t think he has any relation to Michael but I could be wrong
@@fabianrocha9924 ... yes.
The first “Legend” was a huge homage to the 1950s silver age Batman stories. The Dick Sprang/Jerry Robinson era where they’d always fight villains on giant versions of things (giant pianos/instruments/typewriters etc) and Batman and Robin would always get trapped in death traps and would need to escape!
I love that they used the Dark Knight Returns basically line by line. It feels like an earlier version of the movie.
The one with the Joker is based on the opening to the Adam West show. They even did the handshake Batman and Robin does.
Not exactly. It's actually based on the original Golden Age Batman comics by Dick Sprang. The 60's show took ELEMENTS from that, but those connections here, are a coincidence.
Michael Ironside is such a perfect Frank Miller Batman. I was very disappointed when they didn't cast him in the two animated movies based on TDKR but Weller did a great job in that as well. What I'd give to hear Ironside say the "I want you to remember" speech to Superman though.
All I would hear is Darkseid giving that speech.
I cant believe how much of the TDKR was “evolved” into the animated movies over a decade later. Voices etc
There is a similar story in the Gotham Knight anthology called Have I Got a Story For You. Gotham Knight is set between Batman Begins and The Dark Knight starring Kevin Conroy as Christian Bale's Batman.
Batman: Gotham Knights is very similar to this episode. It's an anthology movie that takes place between Batman Begins and The Dark Knight and is done in anime style and is amazing.
1:57 no but this was how he looked when he made his comic debut, which is why I'm glad Brave and the Bold series went with this look to make it feel old school in modern times. In fact I think this short inspired the look for the Brave and the Bold series, but the silver age comics was the influence origin of course. 4:37 by the way, that's little Joel Schumacher, based on the director. It's more of a hated cameo than a positive one since the creators hated "Forever" and "Batman & Robin 97". The Dark Knight Returns has always been a huge influence between The Dark Knight Rises and Zack Syder's vision of Batman. Bat tank says it all.
you three should ABSOLUTELY react to the 'The Dark Knight Returns Parts I & II' animated movies
They are beyond incredible
Yeah. I wish they would do those off shoot movies to the DCAMU because I think they're often far better. Everything prior to Flashpoint Paradox is much better too.
This makes me really want to see them react to Brave And The Bold.
You guys should definitely check out the Dark Knight Returns movie, it's one of the better adaptations. And Peter Weller is great as Batman.
Definitely!
TDKR part 1 & 2 are (imo) the best batman movies to date.
Perfect story, perfect animation, perfect pacing and PERFECT castings for the versions of those characters
Michael Mckean was also in TDKR animated movie as Jokers therapist and Kevin Michael Richardson is the voice of Joker in The Batman 2004 series, and nails it!
The kid who says 'fabulous' is supposed to be Joel Schumacher.
“Rubber bullets. Honest.” I love that line.
Just a heads up for people who might not know:
They're planning to watch the Batwoman movie, but it's going to be a Friday movie reaction.
That means after Mad Love they're going to be going to the next poll show.
I was kind of wondering about that. Thank you.
Superman is next
I mean _technically_ it takes place after JLU
@@johnnysparkle is it what was the results of the poll
Dam wish it was Dark Knight Returns oh well
When discussing the genesis of this story's concept, Bruce Timm stated it was inspired by his thoughts on Batman Forever. "I was just sitting around one day at home, and it just kinda came to me. I was thinking about how there's all these different versions of Batman, and they're all valid, but - The Adam West show all the way up to The Dark Knight and the movies, you may have a favorite version of your own, but they're all still Batman. You couldn't get any more different than The Dark Knight and Adam West. So I just came up with the idea that if we did an anthology that showed the different extremes, it would be a lot of fun and a challenge, and we just took it from there."
You guys need to react to the dark knight returns movies
Yea I was surprised they hadn't yet.
Yeah those movies are great
Dam they kinda ruined the reaction for part 1 though.
You have to watch The Dark Knight Returns, both part 1 and 2
Bruce Timm has stated that if this episode were to have been produced after the Columbine shooting, the network likely would have killed it.
I'm good with the movies we got, but man if we got a full length DKReturns movie with this style and cast... It was perfect.
that happend with BVS
The one other homage they incorporated into this is the episode title. "Legends of the Dark Knight" was a Batman comic that started in the early 90's (IIRC), and was a vehicle for various creative teams to do out-of-continuity Batman stories.
The first one is animated in the style of the 66 Batman opening credits, right down to the handshake at the end.
I am shocked that their first or at least second role they thought of for Michael McKean wasn't that he was Smallville's Perry White. I go to Spinal Tap, Lenny & Squiggy, SNL, Coneheads, Best in Show, A Mighty Wind, but amazed they didnt think of Smallville. Fun Fact: He's married to Ma Kent Annette O'Toole.
Fun fact: The Dark Knight Returns secrion was done by Darwyn Cooke, writer and artist of such classics as DC The New Frontier and Batman Ego
The Dark Knight Returns parts 1 & 2 are worth checking out. There's also a segment in the anthology movie Batman: Gotham Knight that resembles this episode, with kids talking about the urban legend of Batman.
One of the best episodes!!!
I didn't realize how late in the series this was...
I like to set up a sub because of how much , It pays tribute to classic batman stories, I didn't get the reference at first Because I was a kid, but now I do.
13:07 Michael McKean was also Perry White in Smallville and he is married to Annette O'Toole AKA Marths Kent in Smallville and Lana Lang in Superman III. And of course lead singer David St. Hubbins in This is Spinal Tap.
10:21 Also, you should watch the 2 part The Dark Knight Returns animated movie, even if you don't react to it, you need to see it, it is great.
Even though they didn't animate anything for the third kid, I think his version is either a reference to Manbat or the Elseworld Batman and Dracula trilogy where Batman is a vampire.
i like how they used old school batman and frank miller batman
2:32 , So that’s where the animation for Batman, the brave and the bold came from
My favorite of the "New Adventures" episodes.
Back in the Golden Age, once the writers were told Batman couldn't go around machine-gunning monster-men or dispatching vampires anymore, they gave him Robin and started leaning "wacky." That's when fully-functional giant objects began appearing all over Gotham; giant musical instruments, giant typewriters, giant pennies, even giant guns. They've been parodied in every media iteration of Batman since (the '66 TV series did a few as death traps, including a giant advertisement coffee pot that poured real boiling liquid into a cup), but my favorite is the "early years" Batgirl story in which we learn Gotham City ultimately outlawed such displays due to supervillain abuse.
The framing story itself is based (ETA: as you guys looked up yourselves, whoopsie) on a '70s comic of the same title, in which Bruce Wayne takes some "less fortunate" Gotham kids on a camping trip and listens to their fanciful visions of the Dark Knight around the campfire. One kid imagines Bats as a super-tech Black man (one day this would inspire the character Batwing), another thinks he's a mashup of Man-Bat and Superman, a human bat who hunts criminals with x-ray vision and punches them through walls. Insanely, when the arguing brats turn to Bruce to ask what HE thinks, he leaps out of the shadows in full bat-costume (!) only for the kids to laugh him off and go to bed while Batman muses that his appearance only strikes fear in the hearts of criminals, not children.
7:48: In this universe, Wonder Woman doesn't leave Themyscira until "Justice League".
That’s usually how it is in the comics to (at least in the post crisis era when these shows would’ve released) Diana is the youngest Amazon and isn’t created till modern day.
When seeing that giant piano scene, I can't not think about the first trial from Danganronpa V3 😱
You guys definitely need to watch The Dark Knight Returns. Can't believe you haven't yet.
I’m literally PRAYING that Superman: TAS made the cut to be the next series they react to. I don’t want it - I NEED it!
It did.
Surprised there was no mention of the kid named Joel referencing Schumacher
Truly wonderful the mind of a child is. Anyway it nice to see how others see Batman when they tell a story about him
They kept the current day portion of Batman because now the kids will have their very own “Legend” of the Dark Knight they’ll tell their kids.
Another amazing video
Kind of curious what your reaction was to Joel, the kid who was referencing the Schumacher movies Batman, especially given how much Aaron likes them.
Another awesome Batman episode
Y'all gotta react to the Dark Knight Returns movies
You guys HAVE to react to *The Dark Knight Returns!* Part 1 and 2. I think they have a version where they’re put together as one movie too. They’re great movies and great adaptation of Frank Miller’s comic.
This is not the last time you’ll see Michael Ironsides in the DCAU.
All Hail Dark Side!
@@jonjohns8145 shh spoilers
@@Mammothsaber-4457 They said it.
will they be watching the rest of the DCAU ?
@@ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΑ-ε1ω they are watching Super man the animated series next so hopefully yes
Great episode.
EDIT: Yup, knew it! Those scenes and his bulky design are iconic.
Okay, I haven’t read it but from what I’ve learned about it I’m positive that “Fat Bat” one was based on Dark Knight Returns. That was really freaking neat.
They wanted to make a third tale inspired by Neal Adams Batman, but his art style was hard to adapt to animation
If you haven’t seen it yet, you should watch The Dark Knight Returns part 1 and 2 animated movies. They’re pretty good adaptations of the Frank Miller story
The kid named Joel and his comments about the flashier aspects of Batman are a pretty obvious jab at Joel Schumacher. This episode came out only a year after Batman & Robin.
"All Batman does is take prisoners."
Top 10 All Time
Will they be doing Batman Beyond?
The start of Brave and the Bold's artstyle and retro humor plus a loving tribute to The Dark Knight Returns with Michael Ironside as old Batman. Very unique episode, but there *is* one bit of media with a similar format- the first segment of Gotham Knight. Hope you watch that some day.
What version of Batman would you have wanted for a 3rd story? Keep in mind it needs to be distinct and likely exaggerated.
Hm... maybe some kind of Knightfall Batman where he's almost Predator in a cape, shooting batarangs from his gauntlets?
@@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps Maybe, but we already had the super-gritty Batman with the TDKR tribute.
@@WhiteFangofWar Sure, but you don't have to make that one super-gritty, just high-tech and talks different from Kevin Conroy and maybe seems very paladin-like self-righteous.
Dark Knight returns? More like DarkSEID returns
WATCHT THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS PART 1 AND 2 PLEASE!!!!!!!!
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Have you guys never watched the 60's Batman?
They should it's really really great