I like this route update sooo much more than the pacifist one. In the pacifist one it heavily waters down UF sans’s character to make him more sympathetic because I suppose the devs wanted to encourage true pacifist or whatever. But even in the attempt to bring the playerbase back to the consensus that pacifism is the right move, they miss the whole point of pacifism sometimes doesn’t feel like the right thing. Sparing UF Sans used to be a very hard choice where the player had to weigh the options of letting a killer go or ending him yourself. It was an underused moral dilemma that has been removed in place of a retcon of Sans’s backstory with this world’s Susie. In this route update, the devs did have to water down Susie a little to keep her from literally killing Kris on the spot or splitting the party, but it is significantly less as she feels no remorse in expressing her disgust towards the player. And her letting Kris live could be explained by her knowledge that the thing that spared GGUF sans wasn’t Kris, and damaging the heart could kill Kris. Anyways all this to say I like this update, don’t like the pacifist one. Still, keep up the good work Deltatraveler team
I honestly like both cause... It really just explains lore of GG!Fell sans Even after everything he did, hes still (just like in OG Fell) a coward whos using murder as a cover-up of his feelings of the hellhole And even then, talk is really unnoticeable action for everyone, because they are all focused on the fact that GG!Fell sans ISNT spareable, by looking at the tired mark, making them focus on sleep mist. It really just shows that if player have enough attention, he can try to find out the truth on his own (now that everyone knows about the stuff it wont work as much effective but whatever), making player rewarded with not only Papyrus redempting himself, but BOTH of them having a redemption arc. It really just shows how player can be rewarded for being kind and viewful
@@Sashacoolguy_Games It's still preferrable if they made his "realization" arc harder to achieve instead of making it achievable by watching 30 seconds worth of guidance
The Sans ending is meant to be a sendoff to GG!Underfell, as it's likely gonna be totally rebooted. It's the closest thing to a happy ending it can get, I suppose.
Yes, it should. The whole point of Obliteration is killing people to get stronger, so I don't see how missing free EXP here shouldn't be considered a fail to that objective
I agree, it should abort obliteration cause it would completely go against the entire point of the route. With that being said though, I think it could be neat to have a new alternate route/ending where you go genocide everything and ONLY spare the most horrible, mersulless and ruthless people. (Flowey, Fell! Sans, genocide Frisk, etc)@@fedethegreat88
@@dylanzlol7293 It took someone slightly more unhinged than him to cause him to snap out of it. Which is extremely difficult, because in GG Underfell Canon, the whole AU is the result of the player adding an add-on with an “evil mode”, which turned the world desolate and cruel, effecting the main characters especially.
At 3:15, when Susie says "Whatever you are...", it's really interesting what Kris' sprite does. Folds their arms, almost like a pout. Letting their bangs fall back over their eye. Usually Kris' unprompted movements represent Kris' choices, not ours. Here though that reaction seems indignant, which is a response to what Susie was saying about US. So either the hair dropping down over Kris' eye means that's not to represent Kris' reaction, or Kris feels like Susie is, at least in part, blaming them for what happened, and they don't feel like they deserve it. Or maybe Kris is folding their arms to scorn us.
Why does this abort obliteration? This is far more fucked up than the normal variant, so why not do a "Uty dalv" moment and let you proceed thru the run anyways?
Because killing literally everything in your path seems to have a physical effect on the team. Even sparing one thing seems to massively effect the team's ability to cause fatal damage. I don't know if it will be explained, but it seems like obliteration has a potentially story related requirement for you to kill EVERYTHING.
tbh, this should NOT abort the route, kinda like in undertale yellow when u spare dalv (u can still go kill monsters in snowdin and start genocide again)
I hated in the original how Susie didn't acknowledge how fucked it was to not kill him after he (supposely) killed a version of her while Ness and Paula died, good change. Part of me doesn't want this to count as an actual abortion, or if it is nothing goes 'back to normal'
This is MESSED UP aborting genocide for this? If someone who mentally wanted to see the characters suffer they got this. Anyways poor Susie. Also this was a cool alternative for abort
@@sandtheundermanAre you making stuff up as you go? No route has an "official" name, even Undertale's Genocide route was never meant to be called that by Toby. And yes, it does abort it; the sound right after you go back to the overworld is the "aborted Obliteration" sound
It's established she knows the difference now. "You wanna kill Kris and Noelle now too huh?" Paraphrasing, but you get it. She and Noelle were told about us by Kris when they ripped the soul out.
This honestly shouldn't count as abandoning the route. Since "sparing susie" doesn't count. Sparing sans should just be something to get under susie's skin. And continue the obliteration route.
So your telling me, they change the ending that nobody complains and the perfect alternative way abort the Obliteration Route, to this... *(insert the funny quote of Moxxie being watch here)* I won't go on a long thread explaining how this ruins the original ending and stuff but I just say this whatever the writers or VyletBunni have try to cook fail and feel like they don't understand what their doing
I’m pretty sure you can still do the sleepmist ending in the pacifist route. These are just 2 new endings. You’re really complaining that they changed the original aborted obliteration which was the exact same as the regular Sleepmist ending to a new one where Susie actually snaps at you for sparing a relentless killer after killing Ness and Paula? Also lots of people were complaining about this version of sans and how it is barely him at all and that he’s just a typical edgy bad guy who slaughters children. I dunno what you guys want.
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"But no, let the orphan killer live 'cause you also kill kids"
Whoever wrote THAT specific part, deserves all the moeny in the world
its a good line
moeny
Mad Moeny
And fully appropriate cause... Earthbound section *Ahm*
Aw hell ah even Sans is like "Tf's wrong with you, brotha?" 💀
1:15 it’s so fucked how they play THIS sound here like everything’s FINE and FIXED.
its like "well! at least you didn't kill someone!!!1!"
"Great job! You didn't kill a guy, you monster!"
"Congrats! You spared the life of a single person" as Flowey would say
Should've used the [ EXTREMELY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER ]
I like this route update sooo much more than the pacifist one.
In the pacifist one it heavily waters down UF sans’s character to make him more sympathetic because I suppose the devs wanted to encourage true pacifist or whatever. But even in the attempt to bring the playerbase back to the consensus that pacifism is the right move, they miss the whole point of pacifism sometimes doesn’t feel like the right thing. Sparing UF Sans used to be a very hard choice where the player had to weigh the options of letting a killer go or ending him yourself. It was an underused moral dilemma that has been removed in place of a retcon of Sans’s backstory with this world’s Susie.
In this route update, the devs did have to water down Susie a little to keep her from literally killing Kris on the spot or splitting the party, but it is significantly less as she feels no remorse in expressing her disgust towards the player. And her letting Kris live could be explained by her knowledge that the thing that spared GGUF sans wasn’t Kris, and damaging the heart could kill Kris.
Anyways all this to say I like this update, don’t like the pacifist one. Still, keep up the good work Deltatraveler team
I honestly like both cause... It really just explains lore of GG!Fell sans
Even after everything he did, hes still (just like in OG Fell) a coward whos using murder as a cover-up of his feelings of the hellhole
And even then, talk is really unnoticeable action for everyone, because they are all focused on the fact that GG!Fell sans ISNT spareable, by looking at the tired mark, making them focus on sleep mist. It really just shows that if player have enough attention, he can try to find out the truth on his own (now that everyone knows about the stuff it wont work as much effective but whatever), making player rewarded with not only Papyrus redempting himself, but BOTH of them having a redemption arc. It really just shows how player can be rewarded for being kind and viewful
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@@Sashacoolguy_Games yeah but like... everyone knows already???
@@Sashacoolguy_Games It's still preferrable if they made his "realization" arc harder to achieve instead of making it achievable by watching 30 seconds worth of guidance
The Sans ending is meant to be a sendoff to GG!Underfell, as it's likely gonna be totally rebooted.
It's the closest thing to a happy ending it can get, I suppose.
The whole cutscene is dramatic, I freaking love it.
He's so mad he just fucking walks away instead of falling asleep.
Ight imma head out
"damn they kinda fucked up, they more fucked up than me"
"ight, imma head out"
Please, im begging you, deltatraveler dev team. Dont make this abort obliteration. Its so fucking good.
When this chapter was out, it didn't have that specific scene and instead moved into a generic one and it still aborts.
Nah. It should abort.
agreeing with everyone else here, this should not abort obliteration
edit: actually it should just kill you if you attempt this
it should be aborted, if you do something else than this
Why not?
Yes, it should.
The whole point of Obliteration is killing people to get stronger, so I don't see how missing free EXP here shouldn't be considered a fail to that objective
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I agree, it should abort obliteration cause it would completely go against the entire point of the route.
With that being said though, I think it could be neat to have a new alternate route/ending where you go genocide everything and ONLY spare the most horrible, mersulless and ruthless people. (Flowey, Fell! Sans, genocide Frisk, etc)@@fedethegreat88
What should’ve happened afterwards is that Kris should’ve ripped the soul out and the three proceeded to beat the hell out of it Jojo style
Holy sh$t, GG Underfell Sans legitimate lucid moment?! Cool.
A thing so fucked up that fell sans reconsidered his life choices for a sec.
@@dylanzlol7293 It took someone slightly more unhinged than him to cause him to snap out of it. Which is extremely difficult, because in GG Underfell Canon, the whole AU is the result of the player adding an add-on with an “evil mode”, which turned the world desolate and cruel, effecting the main characters especially.
@@JacksonVoet yeah, but the gg!underfell vids show a pacifist run in progress
At 3:15, when Susie says "Whatever you are...", it's really interesting what Kris' sprite does. Folds their arms, almost like a pout. Letting their bangs fall back over their eye. Usually Kris' unprompted movements represent Kris' choices, not ours. Here though that reaction seems indignant, which is a response to what Susie was saying about US. So either the hair dropping down over Kris' eye means that's not to represent Kris' reaction, or Kris feels like Susie is, at least in part, blaming them for what happened, and they don't feel like they deserve it. Or maybe Kris is folding their arms to scorn us.
Why does this abort obliteration? This is far more fucked up than the normal variant, so why not do a "Uty dalv" moment and let you proceed thru the run anyways?
I kind of does, just in realistic situations
Because killing literally everything in your path seems to have a physical effect on the team.
Even sparing one thing seems to massively effect the team's ability to cause fatal damage. I don't know if it will be explained, but it seems like obliteration has a potentially story related requirement for you to kill EVERYTHING.
This is not even "sparing", is just let him run away bc why not lmao.
I wonder if there will be any special dialogue if we do the same thing but with susie in the state of devious.
Unbelievable! This, and all the other geno/obliteration play throughs does not give the party, or Susie, JUSTICE.
Where’s Clover when you need them?
Correction: *Especially Susie* not ‘or Susie’
He's dead, a whole year dead.
The fact that Susie actually understand that it isn’t really kris is actually kinda scary
Devious Route? Piss off susie as much as possible.
tbh, this should NOT abort the route, kinda like in undertale yellow when u spare dalv (u can still go kill monsters in snowdin and start genocide again)
yeah, i feel the same way, but wait how much exp does sans give, would it just make a harder geno (that would be funny)
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i would be cool to have something like a flawed obliteration route after this
It should tho. You spared someone, so Obliteration is aborted
It shouldn’t abort the route. I think that right before Sans walks off, Susie should strike him hard while he’s off-guard and kill him anyway.
I hated in the original how Susie didn't acknowledge how fucked it was to not kill him after he (supposely) killed a version of her while Ness and Paula died, good change. Part of me doesn't want this to count as an actual abortion, or if it is nothing goes 'back to normal'
This is MESSED UP aborting genocide for this? If someone who mentally wanted to see the characters suffer they got this. Anyways poor Susie. Also this was a cool alternative for abort
1. It's called obliteration route not genocide
2.Also no it's not aborting it, it's messes it up even more and it's becomes freak obliteration route
@@sandtheunderman wait it doesn’t abort it?
@@aperson6637 no cuz you still a maniac freak (also fell sans somdhow dies anyway and you still get the 12 lv
@@sandtheundermanAre you making stuff up as you go?
No route has an "official" name, even Undertale's Genocide route was never meant to be called that by Toby. And yes, it does abort it; the sound right after you go back to the overworld is the "aborted Obliteration" sound
@@sandtheunderman
𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂 route????
i would like doing this and all but after so much geno games i find it so much better to just do pasifist, its more entertaining that way
I do like the new pacifist and obliteration sparing endings equally but HOLY S*** IMAGINE DEVIOUS SUSIE'S REACTION
At that point, we might as well lose, cus either Kris or Susie will literally rip the heart out, for Kriss to destroy.
you don't need to imagine, this is devious susie's reaction. she already mentioned how the player made kris try to kill her.
@@slight5989 No, this happens even IF Susie doesn't have the devious status, after all, you hit Susie no matter what to continue the route.
@@saulicereza no? i'm pretty sure you can spare her and still be on obliteration. that's what i did anyways
@@slight5989 No, you can't. It aborts the route. I have tried.
Need a new route where you spare cruel and fucked up people and team with them leaving your friends
*Susie became devious
hey buddy its called sleep mist not yap mist
American justice system in a nutshell 0:21
she....hates the player right......? not Kris......
It's established she knows the difference now.
"You wanna kill Kris and Noelle now too huh?" Paraphrasing, but you get it. She and Noelle were told about us by Kris when they ripped the soul out.
@@glyphnoceda oh....... that's.... fortunate........I guess
This honestly shouldn't count as abandoning the route. Since "sparing susie" doesn't count. Sparing sans should just be something to get under susie's skin. And continue the obliteration route.
Tbh, if I developed it, I would have Susie rip out the SOUL and kill it
Best Ending to the Sans fight, ever!
This one's cool
UNCLE IS BEST 🗣🗣🗣
Red sans = amongus
Red SANS IS UNCLE
Amongus IS UNCLE
SUKUNA IS UNCLE
Lore of DELTATRAVELER v3.0.6 - Sparing Fell!Sans in the Obliteration Route. Momentum 100
So your telling me, they change the ending that nobody complains and the perfect alternative way
abort the Obliteration Route, to this... *(insert the funny quote of Moxxie being watch here)*
I won't go on a long thread explaining how this ruins the original ending and stuff but I just say this
whatever the writers or VyletBunni have try to cook fail and feel like they don't understand what their doing
I’m pretty sure you can still do the sleepmist ending in the pacifist route. These are just 2 new endings.
You’re really complaining that they changed the original aborted obliteration which was the exact same as the regular Sleepmist ending to a new one where Susie actually snaps at you for sparing a relentless killer after killing Ness and Paula?
Also lots of people were complaining about this version of sans and how it is barely him at all and that he’s just a typical edgy bad guy who slaughters children. I dunno what you guys want.
Man you guys just complain about ANYTHING
Gotta be honest, I preferred the old ending.
The old is literally the same as the pacifist ending. No special dialogue for aborting the route.