FREE SEIZED OUTBOARD, WILL IT RUN???
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- Опубликовано: 1 дек 2024
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A very generous subscriber reached out and offered me this free outboard for the tinny, only problem is she is locked up tight.
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tphengineering@hotmail.com
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Hi,just wanted to say,you show to the people what they not to do,I found this video for no serious.
Please show to us really helpful videos.
Thanks
Had me in stitches at the end with the “one owner” comments😂😂😊😊🤣🤣
Brand new coils and points what's not to like. :)
I wish mine looked that new under the flywheel. I'll have to fight it to get it off I guess..
New sticker kit, Its a 5hp. Stickers can't lie.
Damn it I was going to suggest just that Dangar marine, full impeller change ect all very informative top bloke. Terrific project videos
Put a 5hp sticker on it 😂
Lol that would have been the plan had it ran better👍🤣
You need to have more water in your bucket. Water needs to be higher on the lower unit.
I really appreciate your video so much I love you guys
Thanks for showing me what to do
Thanks for the support mate and I'm glad you enjoyed the videos
enjoy your video's and could learn some. Thing thanks R
Looks just like the one I have. Mine is from 70s . Runs good
Those were some of the best engines produced by any manufacturer. You got it freed up, looks like it has the newer style pump in it, it's worth finding the blockage in the cooling system.... This thing will run forever, simple, rugged, reliable, and super easy to fix
Unfortunately mate although I did get her running it was too far gone internally to be an economical rebuild. There is actually a video up of my doing a live tear down of the engine to determine how bad the damage actually was.
@@HarpersShed Sorry buddy, will have a look
@@donk499 no need to apologise mate, hope you enjoyed the video 👍
Well I forgot how smokey a 2 stroke outboard was. Thing is you give me that motor and all I would need is a tinnie.....Oh you have a tinnie there.....wanna send them down to me as well???? hahahaha
Great vid Tim, I really did enjoy it. You and your dad are a hoot doing stuff like this
Lol I can send you the motor but she is now in bits on my bench and only good for a paper weight
@@HarpersShed HAHAHA thanks a lot mate !!
An antique/magneto driven engine guru said that if your ever turning over an engine with a magneto, ground the output, as that energy needs to go somewhere. If you operate an ungrounded magneto, it stands the chance of developing inter-winding faults, the high voltage side can punch through the enamel insulation layer to layer, leading to unreliability and breakdown further down the track. Not really super important in this case, but just interesting to keep in mind when working on such things.
I reckon you'd have no trouble picking up parts, and I also think that those old two bangers in good nick will be worth hanging on to.
All the best, and thanks for the ongoing content.
Thats quite interesting regarding grounding the negative, I will try to keep that in mind. I am going to do a strip down and see what exactly needs doing and if I can get parts I may as well rebuild it too.
I watch Stu from Dangar Marine on you tube mucking around with outboards and I think this video was very entertaining. Stu is a mechanic and does outboards pretty much all the time but seems to gloss over the "dodgy brothers" way of doing things. Getting the engine to move was a blast.
I really like watching danger Stu he works on some interesting stuff, I had fun working on this little outboard just unfortunate it didn't turn out too well.
Super easy outboard to work on ... i had pretty much the same exact model .. very reliable .. loved that little motor.
you guys are a good team.... fingers crossed for more free stuff!🤔🤣🤣🤣
Lol I do like free stuff 😂
Been there done that was very entertaining!! Thanks for the muck around!!! Great video!! Great times with your dad!!
Thanks for watching
You guys are fun together
Thanks mate
Love you guys
Thanks Aunty Jen we love you too
Nice goin, got it to coff and spin for a cupla seconds. Mark [Wilding Sailing] and his Dad Steve got one going and there was so much smoke, a neighbour came by with an extinguisher. Nice job, running, although not well. These outboards seem to be a bit more complicated than inboards. Thanks m8, you and your Dad make a good team.
I did get it to run well at the end it's just the bottom end rattle that kills it unfortunately. I haven't watched Marks latest video yet but it's on the list.
fun to watch....
Very enjoyable guys, thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
Chain and you have a new anchor. Hi Tim's dad.
Lol good plan
This was entirely entertaining... in large part because I've worked with 2 stroke engines since 1960, but I was always doing the knuckle busting by myself. You and your dad have a terrific relationship, and your companionship is affirming and validating.. Thanks for the video. James
Your most welcome James and thanks for the kind words
You have a great dad!
Yeah sure do
I enjoy you're videos it shows what a noob like some of us can accomplish with a little tinkering and some good friends around❤,...and beer 😊
Thanks mate I'm glad you're enjoying the content 👍
Good old Evinrude. 😀
Well, you can at least say that you got it running! The condition of the thing isn't your fault but you can rest assured that you discovered it's limitations and did it all in the garage, instead of in the boat out in the water somewhere! LOL I was entertained, and I think I can say that others were as well. Now you can gift it forward to someone else who has either the means or the inclination to make it run quietly and smoothly, there's always someone out there who has a bunch of old parts sitting somewhere that could be put to use to make it run close to speck. But remember it IS an Evinrude so it's not going to run exactly quiet. Fun video mate, see you next week! Cheers!
Yeah she was never going to be a bolt on and away we go sort of engine. I am going to pull it down and find out exactly what is going on inside and if parts are available I will do a rebuild. Apart from the rattle it actually runs very well.
Great Ep and also educational!
Thanks mate 👍
Bloody good vid. Excellent diagnosis took a bit to get there but like ya say ya know what ya got. As it was free no worries. Be well keep at it.;0)
Thanks mate, yeah nothing ventured nothing gained and like you said it was free
Looks like you might t have to take front cap off or fill sparkplug hole with crc and leave for a few hours let it soak but I would check eck to see if no damage to bore
Good fun
Those are German made Prufrex coils I think. Those are awesome!
Great video mate! Keep it up!
Thanks mate
Dad n Dave, parallel play
In all the comments below I noticed no one picked up that the impeller was not under water. They are not self priming, they dot not pump air. I hate to see people destroy motors because they do not comprehend this.
I'm my defence the engine was dead long before I got my hands on it.
All the good parts
Lol not really 🤣
The motor is not low enough in the water,the water pump must be under water to prime
I thought because the intake was under the impeller would suck up and self prim, but turns out I was wrong. Live and learn I guess.
Definitely needs an impeller also fill up your bucket with more water the water line needs to be much higher to cover the holes above the cavitation plate on the lower unit.
Unfortunately mate she needed more then an impeller. I did a live stream video where I stripped it down to investigate the bottom end rattle and she is beyond economic repair unfortunately.
@@HarpersShed ah tough luck on that one. Enjoyed the video you should definitely tackle some more of these projects.
@@evinrudej thanks mate, it's a shame it wasn't usable but can't win them all. I always keep my eyes open for good projects so I'm sure there will be more in the future.
@@HarpersShedHi, where can I watch the live stream of the engine disassembly? Link? At least the engine has a good impeller. I think it's common for people to miss putting in the water line right from the impeller housing, it requires accuracy. Nice channel.
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Thanks mate glad you're enjoying the videos mate.
Don't throw it out. there is a lot of hard to find good parts on that little engine. Like that shift leaver on the side that is not broke. 99% of the time you get a used engine and the shift leaver is broke off.
Thanks!
Thank you very much mate👍
You could really use a heavy duty drill or impact wrench to turn it over instead of doing it by hand.
Probably would of been easier yeah lol
Got the same one free also siezed gonna try and bring her back to life
Hopefully you have a better result that I did mate.
@@HarpersShed new rings,set points,needle bearing,impeller,carb rebuild and gaskets. Starts on starting fluid seems likd its not getting fuel. Even compression now but its still low at 50 each. Might go back into carb but cleaned it well so not yet.
@@queble11 50psi seems a bit low to me
Hi the only difference between a 5hp and a 6hp is the carburetor. Quick tip take a spark plug turn into an air fitting and pressurize the cylinder ti will do less danag to ti the needle bearings also even pressure on the piston also forces oil into the rings.
Solid idea mate I will have to have a look around and see what I can make up for the next time I need to free up a stuck engine, I'm sure I will find another one lol.
Hi mate mount an old lawnmower engine to that lower unit. I did that years ago worked grate and it was all free have fun.
This is really a big problem with small outboards not many Flush them out when Finnsh more so in salt water
I think I know who got the better deal......!
Lol possibly but I had fun with it so not a total loss
@@HarpersShed You can actually learn more by pulling apart than you can by trying to understand the manual......sometimes you find there is an easier way than what the Manual says...Cheers.....
@@lindsaygreen1688 completely agree 👍
good video
Thanks mate
What a rattling good post and don't worry I won't knock it, I was hoping for a big end ING 😅😅 sorry really bad dad joke's. On a Serious note is it not worth sticking in some new bearings in the old motor ??. Gary 🇬🇧🇬🇧
Lol good post 👍,
I will strip it down and see exactly what has let go before I make any life ending decisions
jason mugg from C Grove {cherry}, TuaCali....have you watched this ow beii?? get my one going the bro.
I noticed the water intake plate is on backwards. This is probably why it got blocked up and overheated.
Highly possible mate
on your 4.5 , there are ways u can get more horses with carburator ...different jets or carb off of a 6
I have considered putting the carb off the dead 6 on to the 4.5 just haven't gotten around to it yet.
I've had a few of those old Evinrude 6hp motors over the years - they usually sound pretty bad, so it may not be as terrible as you're thinking (although the sound is always harder to hear in a video than irl).
I have a Suzuki 5hp you're welcome to have, but it's down south (Batemans Bay). Needs some work too (runs ok but cooling water isn't getting through the passages in the engine, so the exhaust plate needs to come off at a minimum, maybe more). Let me know if you're ever down this way.
Unfortunately this one most definitely has some internal issues mate.
Thank you for your generous off of the 5hp, I will keep it in mind but as you say it's a fair drive and I don't go down that way very often at all but you never know.
would love to see a video on your gyro
It is actually Dad's gyro but I'm sure he won't mind me doing a video on it when it's finished.
@@HarpersShed cool. all the gyro community would love it.
What makes the motor cooked? Can’t it be fixed? Or too expensive? Or unfixable? I’m learning and don’t understand
That particular engine had over heating issues due to blocked cooling passenger in the block and head. When something is overheated that bad it will soften the rings and lose compression or will pick on the cylinder walls and scratch them. It is possible to rebuild but not cost effective as it's getting old and parts are hard to come by
i think the bottom part needs to be deeper in the water 🤔...
greetsz from holland,... max...😉😁
The water was well over the water pickup so I thought it would be fine but that's not what killed it, she was rattling from the first fire up unfortunately.
@@HarpersShed yep i heard it...😭😉
i spoke to soon.... it died RIP LITTLE EVINRUDE hahaha😉😁
Lol yeah it was not ment to be👍
Looks like a 70 something year
that bloody dog
Yeah I hear you mate it carries on all bloody day, not dad's dog its over the back fence
Try dropping it in forwards sounds like it’s dragging a cog
I ran it in forward and reverse, made no difference to the noise.
Prop shaft seal?
Not sure what exactly it is but moving the crank with the flywheel you can feel play in the bottom end.
@@HarpersShed it was the milky oil on the bench, sent you a mail on another free working outboard and photos of the new to me project 👍🍻
Remind me to never hire a mechanic in NSW , here we have dumb and dumber dont know enough to even fix a 2 stroke outboard. " oh it sounds cooked , put another shrimp on the barbie mate ".
DOH !!!!😖
Nice comment, almost makes you sound intelligent......... almost.
P.s never hire a mechanic in NSW 👍
@@HarpersShed At least where i'm from a 12 year old can FIX an outboard PROPERLY after gifted a basic set of tools. Seriously bud. How hard is it to tear it down , put in a $3 set of rings after a good cleanup and have a working motor instead of looking downright useless.
@@NomadSurvivor of course if it was the rings that were the issue that may of helped. Give the 12 year old the tools back and step away from the keyboard.
Why not rebuild it?
I think the parts cost would far surpass the cost of the engine. I also dont think I would even be able to get bottom end parts, although I haven't looked.
@@HarpersShed The Rods are 2-piece and only need needle rollers as the crank is 1 piece (not pressed together). Definitely worth stripping and checking out.
@@TheGalifrey I figured they would be a one piece pressed unit. Now I know that I will do a follow up video and strip it. Not to loose by looking I guess 👍
Yep, we wanna see an autopsy.....👍👍👍👍
A baby's rattle
Old 2 strokes are so dispersing!!!!🤦🤣
Completely agree lol
Well I had 22, lol
Lol nice
They were crap motors when they were new
Is it just me or these guys sound like crocodile Dundee?
Not on purpose but I can see the connection lol
if shes a keeper why dont you clean it up and wack a 5HP sticker on her? i doubt it would get attention conidering they look about the same size?
Unfortunately not a keeper mate, bottom end rattle made sure of that
you need gas no wonder mine wont start
Lol yeah apparently it helps them run
Cheapest rebuild you'll ever build
There is a follow up video where I stripped it down to find the problem. Not to give it away but it would of required a full rebuild of the bottom end so no cheap way out unfortunately.
Why is it every time I get interested in watching a video?Somebody's got to turn on some stupid ass music
That damn dog is annoying, I'm out of here 😏
That's stupid dog barks all bloody day it annoys the crap out of me too.