It was always NTA. But she showed up at midnight unannounced with a stolen key?? How could she possibly be in the right. Then weaponizing her kids. I'm glad OP didn't let fiance apologize. Erika is so rude and misogynistic. Why did she direct all the insults at the woman? Definitely not a girl's girl
Seriously! I noticed that too. She only badmouthed the woman in this scenario. I don't care for double standards, especially when women impose them on other women. It's just gross.
I’d like to highlight that on top of everything here, she showed up at 11:30 PM, UNNANOUNCED, expecting your fiancé to babysit on the spot??? Ma’am if I wasn’t on the couch like they were I’d be ASLEEP. Dead asleep. NOT caring for your baby! Nope!
You know what that was? Jealousy. Pure jealousy. She hasn't had it good in a while and was furious with envy when she figured out what was happening in that moment.
My aunt walked into my room without knocking while I was naked then yelled at me. I told her to get the F out of my room so she tried to get me in trouble but my dad just tore her a new one for not knocking then yelling at me for being naked in my own room.
Who comes over unannounced expecting babysitting after 11pm...? The fact OP was very surprised by her just entering without even knocking, meaning that is at least partially abnormal for her to do, makes me really question her intentions. If she knew they were going out that night, I suspect she may have thought they'd still be out and was doing something sneaky in their house.
Right? She felt entitled enough to just take the key and go over there. No telling what was actually going to happen. OP needs to change locks and NOT give bro the key. Also, maybe check around for missing items of value.
Oh please Erica is going to change her tune when she can’t find anyone to watch her children. 1.she shouldn’t have come over unannounced. 2. She should grow up. Sex is a natural part of life. Sounds like she was angry because someone was getting some while she wasn’t. I’ve met people who had the mind set that if they weren’t having sex regularly then no one can have sex. What a psycho.
4:48 don’t ask for keys back; change the locks! She obviously knows how to make copies and seems like the type who would do that to punish you in the future for all your “crimes “
Hell no. Showed up unannounced late at night expecting the fiance to just drop whatever she might be doing to watch her kid? Op and fiancé nta, Erica or whatever is ascon 1
NTA. Erica let herself in to their place. WTF should OP have to apologize? it was their own home? I would have called the police at her for breaking in. They did not give her a key, she admitted to be taking it. I feel bad for the kids in this. OP and fiancee did NOTHING wrong
Change those locks! Lol when I was younger, no room was off limits of my own house. Lol also the brother needs a DNA test if his gf is so promiscuous when she's mad at him
Hey, this is a win/win situation. Do not apologize for whatever you two do behind locked doors - in your own home! And now Erica is so shocked and disgusted that she won't darken your door again - especially in the middle of the night, on short notice - to make you babysit. Good riddance, I say. Screw Erica and the broom she rode in on!
Absolutely NTA. Erika would've been the asshole regardless if OP had sex on the couch, because she came to the house unannounced and try to break in. Like how did she think going to OP's house at almost midnight, and not give a phone call for a heads up?! The audacity of that woman as well to use her kids for an apologize. I don't see why his brother thought it was a smart idea to have a baby with Erika.
You don’t expect unannounced guests at midnight. OP can do whatever they want in their home. She broke in with a stolen set of keys! She cannot play victim in this.
Why should they apologize for being consenting adults? She’s the one who stole the keys and broke into the house. Last I checked that wasn’t legal. How can she say the fiancé is indecent when it was obvious what she was going to do?
Erica pilfers a key that isn't hers, shows up unannounced at someone's house close to midnight, uses the key to let herself in and then lambastes the homeowners via texts for being adults in their own home to which she was not invited, not expected, not announced all because she assumed she was going to dump her child on someone else at midnight so she could have time to herself? Missing out on future time with this woman's child is the least of your problems, OPS. Erica does not rule the world, nor your lives, nor your house. You should change the locks, be stingy with distributing house keys in the future, insist that visitors and interlopers to call ahead or don't show up but if they do, there will be severe consequences and house key retrieval; and never, ever apologize for what goes on in your own home behind locked doors. The audacity of Erica to assume you work for her whenever she decides you will is insanity. She sounds unstable in more ways than one and if I was the boyfriend, OP's brother, I'd be thinking it time for paternity tests on all those kids she claims are his.
I don’t get why so many ppl are clearly not wrong but then sincerely ask Reddit if they are (aka they don’t KNOW the obvious). I get that some know they’re right but want outside confirmation and backup, cool, but if they’re ready to apologize if Reddit says so, I have to wonder how they could doubt something as obv as this (and there r 2 of them this time). It’s nuts. How could anyone wonder if they’re the AH in this circumstance?
Nta don't break in uninvited and get cross that they are doing things that offend u 😊😂 goodness its their house and they can have sex wherever they please
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She's not returning? Seems like a win to me. DO NOT apologize.
I agree. Heck, I'd take it at least a step further & change the locks, in case this psycho made duplicates of the key while she still had it.
It was always NTA. But she showed up at midnight unannounced with a stolen key?? How could she possibly be in the right. Then weaponizing her kids. I'm glad OP didn't let fiance apologize. Erika is so rude and misogynistic. Why did she direct all the insults at the woman? Definitely not a girl's girl
Seriously! I noticed that too. She only badmouthed the woman in this scenario. I don't care for double standards, especially when women impose them on other women. It's just gross.
I’d like to highlight that on top of everything here, she showed up at 11:30 PM, UNNANOUNCED, expecting your fiancé to babysit on the spot??? Ma’am if I wasn’t on the couch like they were I’d be ASLEEP. Dead asleep. NOT caring for your baby! Nope!
You know what that was? Jealousy. Pure jealousy. She hasn't had it good in a while and was furious with envy when she figured out what was happening in that moment.
CHANGE THOSE LOCKS NOW! NTA. That is all.
And don't give brother the key this time
My aunt walked into my room without knocking while I was naked then yelled at me. I told her to get the F out of my room so she tried to get me in trouble but my dad just tore her a new one for not knocking then yelling at me for being naked in my own room.
Was just starting to type that the threat to withhold the children would only last until Erica wanted a babysitter again, and yep, there it is. 🙄
Who comes over unannounced expecting babysitting after 11pm...?
The fact OP was very surprised by her just entering without even knocking, meaning that is at least partially abnormal for her to do, makes me really question her intentions. If she knew they were going out that night, I suspect she may have thought they'd still be out and was doing something sneaky in their house.
Right? She felt entitled enough to just take the key and go over there. No telling what was actually going to happen. OP needs to change locks and NOT give bro the key. Also, maybe check around for missing items of value.
Ooo that's a good thought
Change the locks. Would not put it past someone like that to make a copy of the key.
Apologize for what? You don’t expect folks to come into your house unannounced- you can do whatever you want in your house!
Gave those keys back awful quick. Change the locks. Good thing it wasn’t my house. She probably would’ve gotten pew. Pew.
CHANGE THE LOCKS!!!! NTA this was not okay she broke in and is mad at them.
As an aside, OP's brother might want to get paternity tests done on all 3 of his kids...
Oh please Erica is going to change her tune when she can’t find anyone to watch her children. 1.she shouldn’t have come over unannounced. 2. She should grow up. Sex is a natural part of life. Sounds like she was angry because someone was getting some while she wasn’t. I’ve met people who had the mind set that if they weren’t having sex regularly then no one can have sex. What a psycho.
4:48 don’t ask for keys back; change the locks! She obviously knows how to make copies and seems like the type who would do that to punish you in the future for all your “crimes “
NTA and I am glad redditer's talked some sense into the fiancee so neither of them apologized. The audacity is just too much.
Hell no. Showed up unannounced late at night expecting the fiance to just drop whatever she might be doing to watch her kid? Op and fiancé nta, Erica or whatever is ascon 1
lol op and lady should solely do the horizontal mamba on the couch from now on… I would😂😂😂😂
NTA. Erica let herself in to their place. WTF should OP have to apologize? it was their own home? I would have called the police at her for breaking in. They did not give her a key, she admitted to be taking it. I feel bad for the kids in this. OP and fiancee did NOTHING wrong
NTA. This is the most insane shit I've ever heard. The only 'indecent' and 'unsafe' person is the one breaking in on other people unannounced.
Can we please talk about the fact it was also 1130pm, unannounced and she wanted a favor?
OP NTA and needs to change your locks asap
It’s not her house she shouldn’t be walking in
NTA. It’s your house. She walked in unannounced.
Change those locks! Lol when I was younger, no room was off limits of my own house. Lol also the brother needs a DNA test if his gf is so promiscuous when she's mad at him
Hey, this is a win/win situation. Do not apologize for whatever you two do behind locked doors - in your own home! And now Erica is so shocked and disgusted that she won't darken your door again - especially in the middle of the night, on short notice - to make you babysit. Good riddance, I say. Screw Erica and the broom she rode in on!
Absolutely NTA. Erika would've been the asshole regardless if OP had sex on the couch, because she came to the house unannounced and try to break in. Like how did she think going to OP's house at almost midnight, and not give a phone call for a heads up?! The audacity of that woman as well to use her kids for an apologize. I don't see why his brother thought it was a smart idea to have a baby with Erika.
And then he kept going and had 3
Hormones. Clearly he was only thinking with his downstairs brain.
NTA at all - it's YOUR house! You don't have to apologize at all!
You don’t expect unannounced guests at midnight. OP can do whatever they want in their home. She broke in with a stolen set of keys! She cannot play victim in this.
Why should they apologize for being consenting adults? She’s the one who stole the keys and broke into the house. Last I checked that wasn’t legal. How can she say the fiancé is indecent when it was obvious what she was going to do?
Erica pilfers a key that isn't hers, shows up unannounced at someone's house close to midnight, uses the key to let herself in and then lambastes the homeowners via texts for being adults in their own home to which she was not invited, not expected, not announced all because she assumed she was going to dump her child on someone else at midnight so she could have time to herself? Missing out on future time with this woman's child is the least of your problems, OPS. Erica does not rule the world, nor your lives, nor your house. You should change the locks, be stingy with distributing house keys in the future, insist that visitors and interlopers to call ahead or don't show up but if they do, there will be severe consequences and house key retrieval; and never, ever apologize for what goes on in your own home behind locked doors. The audacity of Erica to assume you work for her whenever she decides you will is insanity. She sounds unstable in more ways than one and if I was the boyfriend, OP's brother, I'd be thinking it time for paternity tests on all those kids she claims are his.
I don’t get why so many ppl are clearly not wrong but then sincerely ask Reddit if they are (aka they don’t KNOW the obvious).
I get that some know they’re right but want outside confirmation and backup, cool, but if they’re ready to apologize if Reddit says so, I have to wonder how they could doubt something as obv as this (and there r 2 of them this time).
It’s nuts. How could anyone wonder if they’re the AH in this circumstance?
I’d change the lock
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Nta don't break in uninvited and get cross that they are doing things that offend u 😊😂 goodness its their house and they can have sex wherever they please