Blues scales aren't even close to what you guys refer to as "wrong notes". The blues scale is often ridiculed by experienced jazz musicians for its redundancy. Knowing just this basic scale is far from being called a jazz musician. It's the first step, is all it is.
@@samuelzuleger5134 Pentatonic is in all kinds of music no? When i think of jazz MIxo/major/Harmonic Minor comes to mind for me. Major 7 chords latch on to the maj7th in harmonic minor and major a bit better. Mixo-Blues hybrid also comes to mind for jazz.
Interesting from a violin and piano perspective. C# / Db major is hated by string players for its awkwardness but on piano Db is one of the most beautiful keys and ADORED by Chopin (Nocturne, Berceuse etc). Likewise C minor is HUGE on the piano, but a little awkward on violin On the converse, D major is epic on violin (basically all violin concertos are in d ) but kinda sucks and is awkward on piano.
Concert C is the fine cause then it's A major, which isn't really all that bad. Sight-reading Concert A major on the other hand... well that's F# major lol
For those who want to know what the heck are the fancy scales Twoset was talking about towards the end: Imagine you are sitting at a piano and play a C major scale, all white keys. But instead of starting at C, you start at D or any other note in the scale, but still keeping on the white keys. Congrats you just played Dorian or another one of the modal scales! A way to remember the order is I'm Digesting Pizza, Leave Me A-Lone (Ionic, Dorian, Phrygian, Lydian, Mixolydian, Aeolian, Locrian). TL;DR: Modes are a fancy way of playing a piece within a scale, but starting on a note that isn't the usual one.
yes it's because it's the scale i usually play and used to and also bc it's the first scale I've learned lmao i also agree so much on g major scale. g major is probably my fave lmao
"I like writing in D, and everybody thinks it's because I'm lazy, which is true, but it's not the reason I write in D. I write in D because, in this modern day and age, the bass can go down to C, which is their open string. But they can't do vib. on the open string, so D is actually a good note where they can sort of do a little vibrato and it's nice that if you go from [plays epic sounding Bb, Dm/A, A/G, Dm]...." Hans Zimmer Masterclass xD
Man, Dorian is underrated. From Ave maris stella, Dies irae, Sibelius 6th, Scarborough Fair, to more modern pieces like Milestones by Miles Davis, Eleanor Rigby by The Beatles, Mad World... Heck, even the Halo theme is in E Dorian.
Dorian is regularly used by blues and rock guitarists who wanna add some spice to their pentatonics too. Their ranking is from the perspective of violin players anyway.
@@amu5823 The "key" word is C. In C major you can only rely on two senses : your eyes and ears (that's enough of course). In all the other scales, you have at least one black key, then you can also add a "hint" using another sense. C major is trickier.
I totally agree with you :D B flat major is i think the easiest one to play quickly, A major is also very easy, or just practice and they're all easy lol
@@j.thomas1420 ?? didn't know having a "digital hint" mattered, if there is something tricky about scales that would be the switches but not knowing which notes to hit if that's what you mean. Besides in C major scale if you've practised enough you'd be relying only on muscle memory, not eyes or ears...
As a piano player, I love C# minor and C minor... So many astonishing pieces are written in these keys! And since I love metal, among all modes, phrygian is my favourite.
As an aspiring jazz musician, Dorian is my favourite to improvise on. 2nd would probably be lydian because of its bright and heavenly feel. Which is ironic considering it contains what is often referred to as the devil's note/interval.
@@TheReal4th Yes, I understand why you love Dorian, it begins in minor and ends in major, very interesting! A lot of celtic/medieval songs are in Dorian mode. I find lydian very atmospheric, very calm. It's one of Debussy's favourite mode.
C minor is such a great key to play in on a keyboard instrument, especially as if you strip it down to the pentatonic (with the blue F#), the notes are spaced white-black-white-black-white-black-white, giving you a great pivot under your fingers and you can just whiz up and down at ridiculous speed.
Imo, C# minor is one of the most comfortable keys on the piano, together with the other keys with 5 flats or sharps. With proper fingering the thumb ends up being the only thing on the white keys, which fits the shape of the hand perfectly.
Maybe this is true for violinists, but for pianists, the supreme scales are the ones with 3+ flats: E-Flat major, C Minor, A-Flat Major, F Minor, D-Flat Major, B-Flat Minor, G-Flat Major, E-Flat Minor.
@@selenewan7485 Yeah I as I progressed higher I got more and more used to accidentals so when I play in C major I always feel weird bc it's like I'm missing a black key...
@2C (02) Chan Kwan Yu I love keys with flats in general but keys with sharps are like hell for me becaus I have to think of the flat for the note 1 interval above it. Like A#, I know Bb but I have to remember that the two are the same note.
@2C (02) Chan Kwan Yu I also go with F# most of time but that's because it's what I would usually hear but I can see Gb and be able to play it. The same goes for C#/Db
@@heyytheree yeah ofc i love eddy too, it's just he's frequently interupts Brett when he was talking and im kinda annoyed bcs i want to hear what's brett going to say in a clear and full sentence. it's just like watching movie with cliffhanger u know, it irked u
Actually I liked C sharp major. I would personally call it the "Poverty Scale" Since most kids like to mess around with the piano, the white keys tend to be broken. And since it costs too much time and effort to contact a piano tuner in our area (the nearest one is on more than hundreds of kilometers), I would just transpose every piece into the C sharp Major, just to avoid the broken white keys :D
I'm a pianist, and C# Major is easily my LEAST favorite key. Give me Cb Major, Db Major, Db Minor, even B# Major any day, but not C# Major. A single piece by Ravel (Ondine) ruined that key for me... :(
- Me, a beginner musician, barely knowing the difference between major and minor scales - Twoset nerding out about Locrian or Dorian Yeah, I totally agree!
In arabic music there is a shit tone of scales. We are talking like, hundreds, if not thousands, and most of them were forgotten and left behind in history and today there is only around a 100 which is still impressive.
Locrian does not suck. It is just a scale that is uneasy to listen to because you dont have the V-I / coming home effect of a major scale. The first chord of the locrian scale is diminished so for most people it might sound unpleasant. It is quite useful for creating different emotions than the ones a major or minor scale would
I wrote in locrian because I wanted an unstable key center (I was trying to musically describe a storm). I liked that it has a pull towards different, more stable key centers because of the tritones. It’s basically Phrygian with the added diminished 5th, so if you think about it like that it gets to be easier. It’s also in 5/8 for much of the same reasons.
@@benimusmaximus429 no Ionian=major Dorian=minor with normal 6 instead of b6 phrygian=Minor scale with b2 lydian=Major scale with #4/b5 mixolydian=Major scale with b7 aeolian=minor scale locrian=phrygian with b5 I hope this clears the doubt people have with modes
@@aishwaryasubramanian2513 I really cant tell if you're trolling. Using C as an example. Major there's a tritone between f and b, Dorian there's a tritone between eb and A, phyrgian there's a tritone between Db and G, mixolydian between E and Bb, Aeolian there's a tritone between Ab and D then locrian between C and Gb all of the modes have 1 tritone in their scales. To add insult to injury after thinking about it in the shower i also realised it is literally impossible to have a 7 note scale without a tritone in it.
@@droidgeist the only scale I can think of without a tritone is the pentatonic scale, locrian also only has 1 tritone it just feels way worse than the others because there's a 1 diminished chord so you never feel rested. Scales with more tritones exist but they aren't locrian, whole tone for example has 3 tritones in it.
@@sabueso3946 it's because Twosetviolin love bubble tea and drink it every time, so saying "Bb= bubble tea" reminded them that they wanted bubble tea (As always ahah) but they didn't have it there. Hope it helps ahah
I would love to see these guy's thoughts/feelings on the modes of scales other than Ionian, like the modes of Harmonic Minor, Melodic Minor, and Harmonic Major. Phrygian Dominant and Mixolydian b6 are some of the coolest sounding tonalities out there. Also, the Octatonic Scale is mind bendingly cool.
When they put c♯ minor in D, me a piano player: literally many famous piano pieces are in c♯ minor (e.g. hungarian rhpapsody 2, fantaisie-impromptu, moolight sonata, chopin nocturne ...)
Jokes on you, I play tuba and I have no problem sight-reading C major so far. The only problem I have is B natural intonations... edit: maybe 16th notes, but that apply to all key signatures so it doesn't count.
@@itamarbar9580 A major sounds better, has more notable works (Mozart Violin Concerto No. 5, Beethoven Symphony No. 7) while A Minor are the toppings on the vanilla flavored ice cream
@@kristopherwilson506 A major is a little to "flavorless" is so vainilla because of all the "romántic" pieces out there. While in A minor the harmonic changes sound a lot more impactating due to people common opinión that it is vainilla.
@@_wayneman_ how exactly? do you feel the same about G major? Or D major? Or E major? How about Eb major? Or Db major? I don't get what makes it boring
These are just off the top of my head, and you'll know immediately that I don't have much classical background. So: Dorian: Santana. Phrygian: Iron Maiden. Lydian: Frank Zappa. Mixolydian: every blues guy ever, and a lot of country too. Ionian: Meh. Locrian: Chanting weirdos in horror movies featuring devil children. D Major always struck me as the key the violin most actively wants to play in. B minor, not so much, although guitar seems to like that one OK. E Major: guitar heaven. C# minor, not so much. F#/Gb Major and D#/Eb minor: sadists. And, by extension, masochists. Db Major/Bb Minor: old-school Baptist hymns. Seriously, those guys had an absolute fetish for the black keys on the piano and organ. They were pretty keen on Ab Major/F Minor too. B Major: old bluegrass guys, probably just to be [DELETED]s. G Major/E minor: lazy bluegrass guys. A Major: maybe even better than E Major for guitar, and solidly in the violin's comfort zone too. F# Minor, on the other hand and for some completely irrational reason, makes me want to run off in search of a place where F# Minor isn't. A Minor: More fun than its relative Major (C), about which the first word that occurs to me is "inoffensive". F Major: I like it, for reasons that are hard to pin down. I like D Minor even more. Rookie guitar guys, on the other hand, absolutely loathe F Major, with pretty much any key containing an F Major chord being a close runner-up. Eb Major/C Minor: Love 'em, maybe because these keys, more than any other, make me want to practice shifting into multiple positions. Don't ask what synapse firing sequence produces _that_ reaction; I don't know.
This is very interesting. As a trumpet player, everything with sharps is C or B max, but I'll gladly take on 4 flats. And ugh E flat major is the love of my life
Once I get past five sharps or flats I start thinking of the natural notes as the outliers and the flats or sharps as the normies. That way I only have to remember to play a note or two natural and expect the rest to be accidentals. TA DA!
Lol this video should be called Ranking All the Scales From a Violinist’s Perspective. Because for a pianist, this list is sacrilegious. And yes, D is indeed an S-tier key /cries in Rach 3
Is there anyone loves majors with flats more? Twoset love majors with sharps a lot more than majors with flats. But for me I feel I like F, Bb, Eb major the most. (For majors with sharps I think E major seems to have a bright vibe?) (Edit: I'm piano and clarinet gang)
I play flute and I hate majors with sharps. My personal favorite key to play in definately has to be Eb major but that might be because I can actually use all of the keys when playing and it's not too many flats for me because when I get to Ab major, the Db throws me off all the time
@@IPromiseTomorrow I kinda made it up. Not sure if it exists, but it is a minor scale, except the 2nd is flattened, the 3rd is natural, and the 7th is natural. Sort of music theory heavy. Twoset should make more music theory videos.
All Ionian scales use the same pattern of tones to semitones, if you know C Major & D Major you can quickly work out Gb Major or Bb Major. That's why it kinda triggers me to see Major scales pitted against each other because, at the end of the day they be ranking them based on their sharps/flats and on the repertoire but in reality ranking C#minor any higher or lower than its relative major (E Major) seems strange to me. Ranking different sounding scales (e.g. Dorian against Lydian Augmented) makes far more sense.
"whole tone means everything's a tone" okay pals buckle up for a wild ride on the ~whole tone scale~ A whole tone scale is comprised of ONLY whole-tone intervals! What does that mean? Think about each individual note (ex: C, C#, D, etc. - also called semitones, or half-steps) being like steps on a staircase. To go up a semi-tone means to go up one stair (eg. C -> C#). If you were to do this all the way from A -> G#, you would hit every available pitch in Western music (some cultures divide pitches even further!), and subsequently play a Chromatic scale. A whole-tone scale is like double-stepping the staircase. Instead of going up by semi-tones, you go up by two semi-tones, or a whole-tone. This results in the wildest sounding shit in the universe. In major scales, there are 8 available notes, going up the staircase in the following pattern: whole-tone, whole-tone, semi-tone, whole-tone, whole-tone, whole-tone, semi-tone. This pattern is called the Ionian Mode - and there a bunch of different patterns that correspond to the modes mentioned in the video. The seventh note (or subtonic, for you hyper intellectuals) is called the Leading Tone. I capitalize, because the Leading Tone is the note that holds the most tension - if you were to stop on the 7th note of the scale, you would really want to play the 8th note (or, resolve the scale back to "home" - the first note). This is because not only is the 8th note the "home note" or tonal center, but the distance from the 7th note to the 8th note is only a semi-tone - meaning you're so incredibly close to home that stopping on the 7th creates a ton of manic energy. The whole-tone scale, on the other hand, only has 7 notes. It also doesn't have a leading tone because everything is a whole-tone apart - which is why is sounds so balanced and "hazy", as Eddy put it. No one note creates distinctively more tension than the rest. Debussy uses whole-tone scales frequently for this effect, which is why some people call his music "impressionistic". Hope that helps clear up the whole scale, my personal fav
Missed opportunity to call the video : scales on a scale
😅🤭
Big brain moment
You’re a genius
The Scale Scale
When you're not a musician but watch anyway because twosetviolin is such a good vibe to watch
Yeaa... that's soo mee
Wholesome! I hope you feel inspired to try learning! ;)
hehe me 2
das meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
seriously don’t know a thing abt these scales but i just watched it anyway lol
Jazz musicians: What about blues scales?
Twoset: You mean wrong notes?
In my experience, most jazz guitar actually plays on the pentatonic scale, so...alternate notes? Maybe? Please?
Okay, wrong notes...
@@samuelzuleger5134 in fact jazz guitar plays on modal scales mixing chromatics.
Blues scales aren't even close to what you guys refer to as "wrong notes". The blues scale is often ridiculed by experienced jazz musicians for its redundancy. Knowing just this basic scale is far from being called a jazz musician. It's the first step, is all it is.
@@samuelzuleger5134 Pentatonic is in all kinds of music no? When i think of jazz MIxo/major/Harmonic Minor comes to mind for me. Major 7 chords latch on to the maj7th in harmonic minor and major a bit better. Mixo-Blues hybrid also comes to mind for jazz.
Sounds like a classical musicians joke. You can tell as classical musician jokes are always the same. No improvising. 🤣❤️
Interesting from a violin and piano perspective.
C# / Db major is hated by string players for its awkwardness but on piano Db is one of the most beautiful keys and ADORED by Chopin (Nocturne, Berceuse etc).
Likewise C minor is HUGE on the piano, but a little awkward on violin
On the converse, D major is epic on violin (basically all violin concertos are in d ) but kinda sucks and is awkward on piano.
yeh i dont rlly like d major
but d major is my fav... I'm a pianist
NemotheChibi too bad you must forsake it now...
I like d major on both- i play both-
But by themselves
Bb for piano
And g major for violin
“C# minor? It sounds like E”
Chopin: not in my depression land
Rachmaninoff: I'll hunt in your dreams!
Also Rachmaninoff: I hate playing this forever =
Liszt: cries in hungarian rhapsody no.2
“That’s why you can never play in tune”
Me: *Laughs in pianist*
Well, when you practice scales, it is later easier to hit the right notes 😅
Im not an intermediate pianist but i hate scales that doesn't land or start on your thumb like f major
@@beluga5699 I got used to F major but I really hate B minor and Eb major lol
Microtonal music!
*Laughs in crescendo*
Brett and Eddy: put D major in S rank
Canon in D: so you're approaching me...
Is that a JOJO reference?!
*Sono Chino Kyouku [END OF ZA WARUDO] intensifies
Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto in D major agreed~
Canon is in C## from now on
@@glenndiddy CX then 😉
i want a whole series called 'lamentable lists' where brett and eddy just rank different things in classical music
UP
Lamentable *LIZSTS*
@@Reverend_Mohg hahah
“Who doesn’t love sight reading in C Major”
*Laughs in saxophone*
cries in trombone
@@chjupke As long as it is above bass clef staff or in treble
wait you mean our C major? or theirs? Cus I think our C major is their Eb
Artur Seabra I mean concert C major
Concert C is the fine cause then it's A major, which isn't really all that bad.
Sight-reading Concert A major on the other hand... well that's F# major lol
For those who want to know what the heck are the fancy scales Twoset was talking about towards the end:
Imagine you are sitting at a piano and play a C major scale, all white keys. But instead of starting at C, you start at D or any other note in the scale, but still keeping on the white keys. Congrats you just played Dorian or another one of the modal scales! A way to remember the order is I'm Digesting Pizza, Leave Me A-Lone (Ionic, Dorian, Phrygian, Lydian, Mixolydian, Aeolian, Locrian).
TL;DR: Modes are a fancy way of playing a piece within a scale, but starting on a note that isn't the usual one.
thanks a lot, that was quite helpful)
Hahaha that is awesome!!
Okay random unrelated question , I've seen tl;dr a lot of places and still don't know what it means
@@cuddlingteddybears too long, didnt read. So like a summary
Joan Nadia ohhhh that makes sense thank you! I've just seen it recently and never knew what it meant
Me, not a musician watching this video: "Haha I agree D major is great"
D major is great, but D-minor is the saddest of all keys
Hmmm
D major is so easy to play. I mean all scales are easy when you learn.
yes it's because it's the scale i usually play and used to and also bc it's the first scale I've learned lmao
i also agree so much on g major scale. g major is probably my fave lmao
Minor keys are the best.
This was triggering as a pianist. Some of my favorite keys (C# minor, Bb minor, Db Major) were consigned to ignominy.
Same!
Especially chopin
The ranking would definitely be different for pianists!
And F minor too!
Even for them, C# minor should be higher simply because of Mahler 5
I'm cackling on the inside because the scales on the piano are so easy.
#pianogang
*Laughs in trumpet*
#pianogang
@@nexusgoslasi5225 _Cries in trombone_
honestly the more sharps/flats the easier it is on piano
What about contrary-motion chromatic scales?
This is unacceptable. I'm waiting for a response from the F# Major Gang
IT'S G FLAT MAJOR NOT F# MAJOR DANG IT!!!
Fun Fact: knuckles is in F# major.
@@jemapelleanthony6305 no
F# major gang .... doesn’t exist
G flat major for a Butterfly etude, f# major for Barcarolle op. 60
"I like writing in D, and everybody thinks it's because I'm lazy, which is true, but it's not the reason I write in D. I write in D because, in this modern day and age, the bass can go down to C, which is their open string. But they can't do vib. on the open string, so D is actually a good note where they can sort of do a little vibrato and it's nice that if you go from [plays epic sounding Bb, Dm/A, A/G, Dm]...." Hans Zimmer Masterclass xD
Isn't this cadence used a lot in BWV565?... Bach masterclass xD
Underrated comment
As soon as I saw “I like writing in D” I knew exactly what you were talking about (especially because he put so much emphasis on D lol)
OMG YES! I´m doing that masterclass rn and so i got this reference instantly. What a fantastic comment, thank you for brightening up my day :)
True that Zimmer farts sound much better in D ;-)
C major is the scale tht everyone loves but the teachers don’t like cause it’s too easy
I love you, C Major
Well no a 3 octave C is rather hard compared to most other 3 octave scales (on the violin)
Why. You're. EVERYWHERE?!
not for traditional chinese music though, C is so awkward to play.. D is the C in Chinese traditional pieces lol
except once you become a trumpet or clarinet, then it’s not as easy
Not for Chopin though.
When they put DMajor straight to S without any explaination. I felt so cultured for understanding why.
a lot of violin repertoire is in D major, they've done a skit about it
Ahhhh same!!
Prashant Sarkar is it because of the Tchaikovsky d major symphony?
@@spavefx1413 D major is generally considered the go-to key for violinist.
May I ask why? I'm only a fairly recent viewer (maybe 7 months or so) and I'm also not a musician so I feel like I'm missing out!
Fun fact: D is also called "Re", that means "King" in italian. Italians already knew that D is glorious.
CHECKMATE
OMG EPICO
Tell that to violin chan, you viola player.
Do can start on any note. CHECKMATE!
Everybody knows D minor is the saddest key
@@louisrelf5903 yeah but "D major" sounds a lot like "the major", so... just... Well... You know... GLORIOUS.
Twoset: Puts C# minor in D
Chopin : T R I G G E R E D
Lol true, C# minor is one of my favorites
*Cries in Nocturne*
My favorite key. So many great piano pieces written in it.
*also Rachmanioff
Liszt: acceptable but I'm still offended
Man, Dorian is underrated. From Ave maris stella, Dies irae, Sibelius 6th, Scarborough Fair, to more modern pieces like Milestones by Miles Davis, Eleanor Rigby by The Beatles, Mad World... Heck, even the Halo theme is in E Dorian.
my favorite mode (I`m a guitar player)
I see miles davis, I click like.
Dorian is regularly used by blues and rock guitarists who wanna add some spice to their pentatonics too.
Their ranking is from the perspective of violin players anyway.
Not to mention the Major 6th, and Dom7th are huge influences on the sound of Funk and blues. Dorian/Mixo Is just classic electric guitar.
Don't forget Michael Jackson's Earth Song!
Actually as a pianist I find C major scales more "tricky" than any other keys, because you don't have any "digital" hint (aka black keys).
Huh? As a pianist I dont see how the major scale could be harder for you and I dont see what you mean by digital hint...
@@amu5823 The "key" word is C. In C major you can only rely on two senses : your eyes and ears (that's enough of course). In all the other scales, you have at least one black key, then you can also add a "hint" using another sense. C major is trickier.
I totally agree with you :D B flat major is i think the easiest one to play quickly, A major is also very easy, or just practice and they're all easy lol
My favorite major scale is D, since it has just enough black keys to register in your head but still keeping it relative simple.
@@j.thomas1420 ?? didn't know having a "digital hint" mattered, if there is something tricky about scales that would be the switches but not knowing which notes to hit if that's what you mean. Besides in C major scale if you've practised enough you'd be relying only on muscle memory, not eyes or ears...
they should ranks intervals like minor 7th, major 2nd, or tritone. that would be fun to see their reasoning behind their ranking.
tritone would be really telling. either you're cool and you put tritone in s tier, or you're a boomer and you put it in f tier
@@plasmakitten4261 cool kids love tritones
@@paolo6219 it's my food tho...
*smashing the dim7, m7b5, dom7 goes brr*
@@gabrielmahutasoit8953 yes🙏
As a piano player, I love C# minor and C minor... So many astonishing pieces are written in these keys! And since I love metal, among all modes, phrygian is my favourite.
As an aspiring jazz musician, Dorian is my favourite to improvise on. 2nd would probably be lydian because of its bright and heavenly feel. Which is ironic considering it contains what is often referred to as the devil's note/interval.
@@TheReal4th Yes, I understand why you love Dorian, it begins in minor and ends in major, very interesting! A lot of celtic/medieval songs are in Dorian mode. I find lydian very atmospheric, very calm. It's one of Debussy's favourite mode.
C minor is such a great key to play in on a keyboard instrument, especially as if you strip it down to the pentatonic (with the blue F#), the notes are spaced white-black-white-black-white-black-white, giving you a great pivot under your fingers and you can just whiz up and down at ridiculous speed.
@@surfdigby I was thinking the same thing. As a piano player I love both C minor and F minor.
Imo, C# minor is one of the most comfortable keys on the piano, together with the other keys with 5 flats or sharps. With proper fingering the thumb ends up being the only thing on the white keys, which fits the shape of the hand perfectly.
Maybe this is true for violinists, but for pianists, the supreme scales are the ones with 3+ flats: E-Flat major, C Minor, A-Flat Major, F Minor, D-Flat Major, B-Flat Minor, G-Flat Major, E-Flat Minor.
Crying in Alto Recorder
No one like c sharp minor
Chopin : am i a joke to you?? ):
same goes for rachmaninoff with his famous prelude op 3 no 2
@@astridbourras7739 and liszt with hungarian rhapsody no 2
yeah they took an L for C# minor it’s S tier
@@palebreath Yeah I have no idea why it is not S tier
beethoven too lmao
Me as a piano player: “I love C major”
Me as a violin player: “I love D major”
I actually think C major isn't as innocent as it seems once in higher levels because it starts to give you a lot of surprise accidental for the piano
Chopin's waterfall etude op10-1 would like to have a chat with you
@@selenewan7485 Yeah I as I progressed higher I got more and more used to accidentals so when I play in C major I always feel weird bc it's like I'm missing a black key...
Omg rite!
The Drummer by Sofia Gubaidulina has killed me with it being in C major
Eb and F major are both S tier
Sincerely, a brass player
As a flute player, I 100% agree with you. Eb major is easily the best key to play in.
@2C (02) Chan Kwan Yu I love keys with flats in general but keys with sharps are like hell for me becaus I have to think of the flat for the note 1 interval above it. Like A#, I know Bb but I have to remember that the two are the same note.
@2C (02) Chan Kwan Yu I also go with F# most of time but that's because it's what I would usually hear but I can see Gb and be able to play it. The same goes for C#/Db
Eddy: I LOVE THIS SCALE!!!
Brett(Outside): Smiles somehow
Brett(Inside): I'm here....
i know.. i mean i sometime wish eddy didn't cut brett out when he was speaking or stating his opinion..
odie the diminisher Brett is such a nice guy.
@@heyytheree yeah ofc i love eddy too, it's just he's frequently interupts Brett when he was talking and im kinda annoyed bcs i want to hear what's brett going to say in a clear and full sentence. it's just like watching movie with cliffhanger u know, it irked u
And I mean, it's mostly autocompletion.
Brett actually stated his opinion alot in this video lol
"I dont think anyone likes F"
jokes on you... I play french horn... so your F... is MY C
😂😂
But that means that their G is your D, so now you can both be S-tier.
Also Cor Anglais players.
E flat major in D tier
Chopin's Nocturne in E flat major:
Lamentable !
One of the most beautiful nocturnes
Lol which one
I have to be honest, this one really disappointed me.
Grand Valse Brillante, Polonaise Brillante, Nocturne op 55 no 2, are great pieces in Eb Major
@@istillhateminionssomuch1677 op 9 no 2
Eddy: repeatedly plays tritones
The devil: ah, finally someone else is summoning me other than that Thrasher guy
this made me choke 😂
Omg I nominate you for the best joke 2020 XD
lmfao
UNDERRATED COMMENT
When you realize this video is just a disguised "Ranking violin repertoire" video
you're right and you should say it
It's like "8 more amazing classical pieces" which turned out to be 8 violin pieces :/
If that's the case, then atonal music is just totally forgotten
“D Major is a glorious key”
Canon in D: Good choice
oh no sacriligeous piece
💀
Just say ‘bubble tea’ and you’ll put twoset in a trance
Ah Pentatonic Scale, the scale that every guitarists only need.
Depends on what style, but generally speaking? YES!
That's what it makes a guitar player a genius
@@zackf192 yeah, a good example is Angus Young
@@nosparkss do you watch Music Is Win?
@@zackf192 haha yeah, i watched his Angus Young video.
Actually I liked C sharp major. I would personally call it the "Poverty Scale"
Since most kids like to mess around with the piano, the white keys tend to be broken. And since it costs too much time and effort to contact a piano tuner in our area (the nearest one is on more than hundreds of kilometers), I would just transpose every piece into the C sharp Major, just to avoid the broken white keys :D
I'm a pianist, and C# Major is easily my LEAST favorite key. Give me Cb Major, Db Major, Db Minor, even B# Major any day, but not C# Major. A single piece by Ravel (Ondine) ruined that key for me... :(
@@KingstonCzajkowski ok lets try to deal with 8 flats and 13 sharps
@@andrewqi6695 Okay, just not 7 sharps. Sounds good.
@@KingstonCzajkowski im new to learning an instrument but aren't C# major and Db major the same
@@linxley They sound the same, but reading their sheet music is quite different
Eddy: plays a tritone
Daniel Thrasher: YOU INVITED A FRICKING DEMON IN MY FRICKING KINGDOM
It AIN'T FAMILIAH
- Me, a beginner musician, barely knowing the difference between major and minor scales
- Twoset nerding out about Locrian or Dorian
Yeah, I totally agree!
trust me, they didn't even get as deep as they could've!
Eb Major deserves way more respect. Haydn created the most EPIC trumpet piece in history with this scale. I cannot believe this is happening. 😢
Beethoven's Septet, too.
Yes. I’m a Eb Major stan
So many of my favorite pieces are in E flat Major. I took a personal offense when they ranked it so low 😢
So many of my favorite pieces are in Eb Major. Along with B Major and Bb Major, those are my favorite keys.
There's quite a few trumpet concertos in E flat major!
Non musician and 0 musical theory knowledge fan like me:
Couldn’t understand and still happily watching🌚
me too
Qianni Yong I feel you bro, me too
it's just nonsense, is the thing.
But an F in the chat for all the F’s that were treated unfairly in the making of this video.
Its Fair tho
F
Gbb
F
F!!
Them getting so excited about scales is ultimate music nerd energy gang😂
"Every best violin concerto, D major."
I guess you could say the composers likes the D.
Ysabelle Dela Cuesta I-
Well. Bach's wife sure did
They like sharing the D for sure
@@holo6883 ok.....
Tchaichowsky approves
1:18 yes. thankyou, Eddy.
what?
@@maradupras7278 what?
In arabic music there is a shit tone of scales. We are talking like, hundreds, if not thousands, and most of them were forgotten and left behind in history and today there is only around a 100 which is still impressive.
A moment of silence to the non musician gang who can't see the difference between E flat minor and C major but still watch the video until the end.
5:31 "Maria, I just kissed a girl named Maria~"
as a theatre nerd, this makes my heart so happy 😍😍😍
And suddenly I found, how wonderful a sound can beeeee
Maria! Say it loud and there's music playing. Say it soft and it's almost like praying.
"There's a place for us
Somewhere a place for us
Peace and quiet and open air
Wait for us somewhere..."
I just love West Side Story😍
My dad was involved in the original Aussie production. Missed his honeymoon as a result. The show holds a massive place in my heart.
@@aquietplace7308 That's awesome! What role did he play?
Moonlight Sonata is enough to raise a entire scale's letter grade in the eyes of TwoSet.
What a kingly piece.
5:41 “Next up on Mixelodeon, Spongebob Squarepants!”
(it’s mix-o-lydian fyi for ppl who didn’t know)
I thought the same thing lol
Dammit you beat me to it😂
Lol I'm gonna screw with my music teacher and call it that now, thanks to Brett
“Imagine writing something in locrian” I literally just finished a piece entirely in locrian
Interesting
Yeah but see you did it cause it’s hard to write in locrian. Cause locrian sucks
If you’re writing in location it’s just for novelty it doesn’t work as a functional key
Locrian does not suck. It is just a scale that is uneasy to listen to because you dont have the V-I / coming home effect of a major scale. The first chord of the locrian scale is diminished so for most people it might sound unpleasant. It is quite useful for creating different emotions than the ones a major or minor scale would
I wrote in locrian because I wanted an unstable key center (I was trying to musically describe a storm). I liked that it has a pull towards different, more stable key centers because of the tritones. It’s basically Phrygian with the added diminished 5th, so if you think about it like that it gets to be easier. It’s also in 5/8 for much of the same reasons.
When they put F minor on E and C minor on C my soul decayed
as someone played the piano that offended me
Brett: Everyone likes D major, it's such a glourious, happy, great key to play!
Pachelbel: shedding happy tears
Eddy: tritone is the devil's interval
eddy just 2 mins back: I love lydian(which clearly contains a #4 A.K.A a tritone)
Every mode has a tritone in it?
@@benimusmaximus429 no
Ionian=major
Dorian=minor with normal 6 instead of b6
phrygian=Minor scale with b2
lydian=Major scale with #4/b5
mixolydian=Major scale with b7
aeolian=minor scale
locrian=phrygian with b5
I hope this clears the doubt people have with modes
@@aishwaryasubramanian2513 I really cant tell if you're trolling. Using C as an example. Major there's a tritone between f and b, Dorian there's a tritone between eb and A, phyrgian there's a tritone between Db and G, mixolydian between E and Bb, Aeolian there's a tritone between Ab and D then locrian between C and Gb all of the modes have 1 tritone in their scales. To add insult to injury after thinking about it in the shower i also realised it is literally impossible to have a 7 note scale without a tritone in it.
@@droidgeist the only scale I can think of without a tritone is the pentatonic scale, locrian also only has 1 tritone it just feels way worse than the others because there's a 1 diminished chord so you never feel rested. Scales with more tritones exist but they aren't locrian, whole tone for example has 3 tritones in it.
church music = satan's music
Tonally and harmonically enhanced individuals is just describing jazz musicians, modes and tritones are in so much jazz
The fact that Eddy knows Red Hot Chili Peppers makes me love him even more
5:25
I scrolled for this comment :D
He’s been watching to many Davie504 videos. Shhhh. 😂
but can he djent
How to djent : (Drop L)
0000000000000000000000000000000
Yeah, he just casually playing RHCP has made me cheer up :)
Love you TwoSet
C minor and B flat major are my favs
Me: tries to watch a CuLTurEd video
RUclips: here's a SaCrELiGiOuS ad
Lol!
youtube premium and never look back
@@synapse49 * cries in broke musician *
Joey B *cries in same*
YEAH SAME I GOT A SIMPLY PIANO AD BEFORE THE VIDEO STARTED-
3:58 Editor san just makes things 3 times funnier
we love you editor-san
Yo I hear this sound and it gives me ptsd from fields of guardians in hyrule
@@sabueso3946 it's because Twosetviolin love bubble tea and drink it every time, so saying "Bb= bubble tea" reminded them that they wanted bubble tea (As always ahah) but they didn't have it there. Hope it helps ahah
I would love to see these guy's thoughts/feelings on the modes of scales other than Ionian, like the modes of Harmonic Minor, Melodic Minor, and Harmonic Major. Phrygian Dominant and Mixolydian b6 are some of the coolest sounding tonalities out there. Also, the Octatonic Scale is mind bendingly cool.
“This just came back in stock.”
Dude it’s out of stock now
This would be nice if I could even play a scale in tune
:(
ikr
Spain but without the s.
Same :,(
I used to be able to do that but now I cant
Cause my piano is out of tune
It's your personal scale then 😋
When they put c♯ minor in D, me a piano player: literally many famous piano pieces are in c♯ minor (e.g. hungarian rhpapsody 2, fantaisie-impromptu, moolight sonata, chopin nocturne ...)
That's what I thought as well. You can tell the list is made by violinists according to what's easiest to play.
What do you call the boy who had a piano fall on his head?
Ab minor...
Also
Dead.
Ab minor or Dsus2
@@milleh1912 genius
You get a thumbs up for this
This is the best comment. 50th like!
BlairCoron I thought it was what you got when a grand piano falls down a mine shaft
*This is the first tier list I have seen in my life that has so many things in S tier*
I guess TwoSet loves almost all the scales
'C Major is like vanilla ice cream' best metaphor eveR
Eddy: 3:45
"FBI, OPEN UP!"
Great lmao
LMAO
2:10
Cannon in D :- "You hear that? I AM GONNA BE FAMOUS"
"But who doesn't like sightreading C Major?"
Brass players: >:(
Jokes on you, I play tuba and I have no problem sight-reading C major so far. The only problem I have is B natural intonations...
edit: maybe 16th notes, but that apply to all key signatures so it doesn't count.
I play flute and as a woodwind player, I hate sightreading in C major aswell. I love sight reading in Eb major more than any other key though
A minor in a higher tier than A Major is
Lamentable
It's easier!
@@itamarbar9580 A major sounds better, has more notable works (Mozart Violin Concerto No. 5, Beethoven Symphony No. 7) while A Minor are the toppings on the vanilla flavored ice cream
@@kristopherwilson506 It can't sound better - it's a boring major scale.
@@kristopherwilson506 A major is a little to "flavorless" is so vainilla because of all the "romántic" pieces out there.
While in A minor the harmonic changes sound a lot more impactating due to people common opinión that it is vainilla.
@@_wayneman_ how exactly? do you feel the same about G major? Or D major? Or E major? How about Eb major? Or Db major? I don't get what makes it boring
I DID NOT EXPECT EDDY TO PLAY CANT STOP AT 5:23 (a very bASS heavy song btw 👀)
Yes. Very funky
RHCP🤘🏻
They're just trying to bring Violin-chan back into the world of the living by appeasing the BASS Lord.
OH YESSSSSSSS IM NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT NOTICED THAT
also that RHCP and Cant Stop is AWESOME
"whole tone...very hazy...dreamy" loved that description, can you describe and give examples of the other scales, please?
Don’t lie, a lot of us love the C Major Scale. It doesn’t have any black keys.
Unless you aren’t playing on an instrument in concert pitch.
Edit: Concert C is still my favorite scale though on a Bb instrument...
My choir teacher just played one of your videos and I have the biggest smile on my face! Love your work :)
These are just off the top of my head, and you'll know immediately that I don't have much classical background. So:
Dorian: Santana. Phrygian: Iron Maiden. Lydian: Frank Zappa. Mixolydian: every blues guy ever, and a lot of country too. Ionian: Meh. Locrian: Chanting weirdos in horror movies featuring devil children.
D Major always struck me as the key the violin most actively wants to play in. B minor, not so much, although guitar seems to like that one OK.
E Major: guitar heaven. C# minor, not so much.
F#/Gb Major and D#/Eb minor: sadists. And, by extension, masochists.
Db Major/Bb Minor: old-school Baptist hymns. Seriously, those guys had an absolute fetish for the black keys on the piano and organ. They were pretty keen on Ab Major/F Minor too.
B Major: old bluegrass guys, probably just to be [DELETED]s.
G Major/E minor: lazy bluegrass guys.
A Major: maybe even better than E Major for guitar, and solidly in the violin's comfort zone too. F# Minor, on the other hand and for some completely irrational reason, makes me want to run off in search of a place where F# Minor isn't.
A Minor: More fun than its relative Major (C), about which the first word that occurs to me is "inoffensive".
F Major: I like it, for reasons that are hard to pin down. I like D Minor even more. Rookie guitar guys, on the other hand, absolutely loathe F Major, with pretty much any key containing an F Major chord being a close runner-up.
Eb Major/C Minor: Love 'em, maybe because these keys, more than any other, make me want to practice shifting into multiple positions. Don't ask what synapse firing sequence produces _that_ reaction; I don't know.
😁😁😁 thank you! Spot on!
Signed: A lazy bluegrass mando girl
I’m guessing guitarists also love pentatonic scales, it’s just everywhere in blues and rock
You're guessing correctly. :) I'm pretty sure a lot of guitar players in popular genres _think_ in pentatonic by default.
Me: sees e minor in a tier
*Happy guitarrist noises
*_E_*
@@smorrow e minor is also on ukulele
I’m so early lingling didn’t even wake up for the practice
Impossible
😂 ling ling doesn't need to sleep - ling ling has to practice 40 HOURS A DAY
Practice while sleeping practice while watching this video
Lies, lingling sleeps while practicing
Ling ling does not require sleep. They do drink a ton of bubble tea tho
My fave key/scale is E flat major or C minor or E minor
"I quite like A minor" yes this violinist over here officer
M Musthofa i am not a musician but really want to know about this comment can you explain pls
@@faitheditzz7529 a minor
3:56 "bb, tea.. bubble tea" "aaaaah"
Editor san: y u do this 2 urself
This is very interesting. As a trumpet player, everything with sharps is C or B max, but I'll gladly take on 4 flats. And ugh E flat major is the love of my life
My judgement: Any more than 4-5 flats or sharps, I'm not doing.
@dghi at least you have keys that are in tune for you
Once I get past five sharps or flats I start thinking of the natural notes as the outliers and the flats or sharps as the normies. That way I only have to remember to play a note or two natural and expect the rest to be accidentals.
TA DA!
“What is happiness?”
“Watching new episode of Twoset everyday” ;) said Lingling wannabes
Yes in philosophy classes.
Lol this video should be called Ranking All the Scales From a Violinist’s Perspective. Because for a pianist, this list is sacrilegious.
And yes, D is indeed an S-tier key /cries in Rach 3
Twoset: D major? S tier!
*Band kids*: I have never seen this man in my life
Lol right? As a clarinet player that's too many sharps for my liking haha
It's only because they play violin lol. D major shines with them.
@@empyrean27 But have you tried playing on A instruments though?
Is there anyone loves majors with flats more?
Twoset love majors with sharps a lot more than majors with flats. But for me I feel I like F, Bb, Eb major the most. (For majors with sharps I think E major seems to have a bright vibe?)
(Edit: I'm piano and clarinet gang)
Piano/Trombone gang. Majors with flats are the jam.
but as a pianist consider this: d flat major??!
as a guitar gang i love sharps more 👉👈 but major flats in piano is top notch
I play flute and I hate majors with sharps. My personal favorite key to play in definately has to be Eb major but that might be because I can actually use all of the keys when playing and it's not too many flats for me because when I get to Ab major, the Db throws me off all the time
brass love major flat keys and I’m guessing some woodwinds too
I love Eb Minor! It's haunting dark❤️
Me trying to keep up and imagining what each scale sounds like in my head
I once used a harmonic phrygian dominant scale without even realizing it.
What even is that?
Please explain to me this advanced and HIGHLY technical music word...
@@IPromiseTomorrow I kinda made it up. Not sure if it exists, but it is a minor scale, except the 2nd is flattened, the 3rd is natural, and the 7th is natural.
Sort of music theory heavy. Twoset should make more music theory videos.
Eddy: “yeah, I’m not a big fan of chromatic”
Mozart: *sadness noises*
6:33 I like how the triangle and the violin are both playing the note B
How cold is the room? Brett is in Hawaii and Eddy is fall in the US.
twoset: puts D major on S tier
Canon in D: *Allow me to introduce myself*
Eddy: I just want play my pieces over and over and that's why you can never play in tune.
Me: correct, I'm a violist
Me: seeing all the scales
Also me: *sweats cause I forgot all of them already* (except for C Major and D Major
Well I never had decent music theory education in the first place so I don't even know what they are talking about
All Ionian scales use the same pattern of tones to semitones, if you know C Major & D Major you can quickly work out Gb Major or Bb Major. That's why it kinda triggers me to see Major scales pitted against each other because, at the end of the day they be ranking them based on their sharps/flats and on the repertoire but in reality ranking C#minor any higher or lower than its relative major (E Major) seems strange to me. Ranking different sounding scales (e.g. Dorian against Lydian Augmented) makes far more sense.
Yikes
Max Newton on instruments the ease/comfort of playing scales differs a lot so it's super logical to have at least personal favs
Ariana ; Yeah also don’t forget the repertoire.
4:11 "It's so awkward even just playing that (B Minor)".
In that sense even D Major would be awkward to play, as it's the exact same key 😂
0:20 KILLED ME
(The way he says it!!! the facial expression!!! the clip art!!!)
"Higher minds will agree microtonal scales are above all else."
-Me, who can't play in tune.
This is really what I needed. Thank You!!!
"whole tone means everything's a tone" okay pals buckle up for a wild ride on the ~whole tone scale~
A whole tone scale is comprised of ONLY whole-tone intervals! What does that mean?
Think about each individual note (ex: C, C#, D, etc. - also called semitones, or half-steps) being like steps on a staircase. To go up a semi-tone means to go up one stair (eg. C -> C#). If you were to do this all the way from A -> G#, you would hit every available pitch in Western music (some cultures divide pitches even further!), and subsequently play a Chromatic scale.
A whole-tone scale is like double-stepping the staircase. Instead of going up by semi-tones, you go up by two semi-tones, or a whole-tone. This results in the wildest sounding shit in the universe.
In major scales, there are 8 available notes, going up the staircase in the following pattern: whole-tone, whole-tone, semi-tone, whole-tone, whole-tone, whole-tone, semi-tone. This pattern is called the Ionian Mode - and there a bunch of different patterns that correspond to the modes mentioned in the video. The seventh note (or subtonic, for you hyper intellectuals) is called the Leading Tone. I capitalize, because the Leading Tone is the note that holds the most tension - if you were to stop on the 7th note of the scale, you would really want to play the 8th note (or, resolve the scale back to "home" - the first note). This is because not only is the 8th note the "home note" or tonal center, but the distance from the 7th note to the 8th note is only a semi-tone - meaning you're so incredibly close to home that stopping on the 7th creates a ton of manic energy.
The whole-tone scale, on the other hand, only has 7 notes. It also doesn't have a leading tone because everything is a whole-tone apart - which is why is sounds so balanced and "hazy", as Eddy put it. No one note creates distinctively more tension than the rest. Debussy uses whole-tone scales frequently for this effect, which is why some people call his music "impressionistic".
Hope that helps clear up the whole scale, my personal fav
Nice explanation
There are actually TWO whole-tone scales: C-D-E-F#-G#-A#-C and C#-D#-F-G-A-B-C#, just for the sake of being complete
Yep. Nice that we only have to memorize two
So many tri-tones in the Whole tone scale