As a tree surgeon in my past years, I'd just sorta like to point out that a first day wound on a pine tree yealds sweet sap. After the first day it yealds the heavy mucus like resin sap. And like I said the fist 24 hours it's sweet and runny. After the that it becomes a thicker more resiny sap that oozes out. Hope someone can benefit from that... Cheers!
You don't have to heat it or keep it hot. It dissolves in alcohol (High-proof ethyl or isopropyl won't leave residue}. Just pour the dissolved pine tar through a filter and let the alcohol evaporate in a safe well-ventilated place. What you are left with is clean unburned Pine tar. It is easier to deal with in a cold liquid state. Alcohol is the best way to clean up after it as well.
@@cherrybomb3713 I roughed up around the hole with a broken piece of granite, heated pitch on a stick and applied it to the hole and baggie. Rubbed dry dirt on it to remove stickyness and thats it. Patch is hard as fibreglass!
Thanks a bunch, trillumlight edibles for pointing out that mixing cat hairs with resin makes a good glue. It's more than good, it's superb. I took some of the fur my cat sheds, mixed it with resin, smeared it on her feet and she's been hanging upside down from my ceiling for a couple of months now: my earlier attempts only lasted for a few hours or so. .
BTW, I didn't do it to be cruel, I did it as a living art installation--sadly, for some reason the living part no longer applies, :-) VG channel BTW, I did survival in the British Army, Offshore Survival when I worked on the rigs, and all my near seven decades of life I've been fascinated by nature an what it provides. Even as a child, I had learned from my mum and dad, useful knowledge on plants and animals. I see a lot of "advice" on wild edibles and/or medications on TV in print or online by "experts" that will get people killed, and not in a quick way. This applies to many toxic plants, and especially to fungi. So far the few clips of yours I've watched ( I intend to watch some more, never too late or too smart to learn something useful) were, I'm happy to say, both well-informed and devoid of dangerous advice. My golden rule is :unless you are in a life-or- death situation, if you cannot identify it 100%don't eat it or use it, especially if it's a fungus-there's very few calories in the vast majority them.if you're 99.9999% certain it's useful--leave it.and walk away! If poss, do you think you could include a bit of info and and pics of dangerous lookalikes, and the latin classification name--I've noticed that the common name for some plants and animals varies from location to location? Again, enjoyable clips well presented:-)
LOL! You & me would get along fine! I do have 2 cats, love 'em, and 'Yes' they are furry turders....and one resembles a long meaty fur loaf with a couple of flippers at each end!
@@Jigaboo123456 ~ "BTW, I didn't do it to be cruel, I did it as a living art installation--sadly, for some reason the living part no longer applies." Hmmm.... but the cat IS still hanging there?
my girlfriends mother taught her all about pine pitch & recently we mixed a batch with coconut oil...nother good mix to loosen it up & get benefits of both...cheers for all the great content!!
You can also briefly pre-dip strips of gauze into the hot liquid, cool and store for later cutting to size as needed, for gluing, or as a conveniently pre-medicated wound tape. You just quickly soften a piece of the strip over heat, and apply. Do NOT use on cats, dogs, or other small pets. They will chew it off, ripping both fur and their thin skin off along with the hard-sticking bandage.
Thank you Sue, I'm glad you liked it! There really is so much that we have lost. It has always been somewhat saddening to see the loss of things that are so important.
So I’ve been doing some woodworking without using chemicals or metal at all. Just getting raw lumber and trimming it with my hand tools, and I’ve been thinking about making pine sap glue to go along with the dowels to join my joints together. I’m def gonna make some to see how it turns out
@@bilithic7421I haven’t found enough to process yet. Currently I have about 7 lamps I’ve made from raw wood and they have these root bases I wanna glue together. I can’t even find enough to make enough glue for even one yet
Interesting video. I once woked at a chemical plant that processed resins. We sold the final products to other companies that made adhisives. So even today, pitch is used to make some types of glues.
Hmmm... I didn't know that pone pitch could be used the same way, always thought it was just sweet gum and spruce trees. Pretty cool, thanks for sharing Mag Kyt!
@@Briandodd760 In one case tree gum was successfully applied as ointment on a large broken scalp instead of stitches while a doctor was not available. It healed perfectly without a doctor or medicine however it took longer.
Learn something everyday, it’s amazing how much I have learned in the last few months since I started on RUclips, it’s great to get support from other you tubers and see all the new skills we can share. Great video pal
Why I was growing up my mom would use pine tree sap to clean out cuts, bites and infections. She would warm up the tree sap and when it became soft and malleable she would place it over the cut or bite. She would place a bandage over the pine tree sap. The pine tree sap would suck the infection or poison out. But the only problem is it would not help the wound heal. The opening would be white and clean. You would have to re-bandage the opening for it to heal. My mom would have a small coffee can full of pine tree sap.
Great video. Sap is the sugary substance excreted from trees in an almost liquid form often used for making syrup while pitch is actually what you are harvesting. It tends to be a more semi-liquid to almost hardened secretion from the tree as it tries to heal it’s own wounds. They are not actually the same thing. Also, if you keep your pitch in a baggie and freeze it, you will find it is much easier to remove and handle in that form.
To make pine pitch glue I like to use Pine pitch, Deer dung(Don’t use it if it’s fresh use it if it’s dry and a little aged) ,charcoal(Grinded into powder) and I heard putting some beeswax or animal fat into the mix makes it more flexible but I haven’t tried that yet.
Worth noting that it takes a LOT of time to gather the amount of sap that he is showing in the jar. A single tree won't give nearly as much, so if you plan to gather sap uou have to find a pine forest. And of course not every tree is wounded! Great video and useful i formation ❤
Generally, yeah it can take a lot of time to get this much. I actually got lucky with it because one of my friends had a pine tree that had been all beat up from axes and such over many years so all that's in the jar came from one tree in a matter of minutes. However it took years to accrue there. I have a small bucket full of sap that took about 3 or so years to get filled up and that was a lot if walking in pine forests to find it all. Thanks for commenting and helping give others some insight!
@@TrilliumWildEdibles thank you for the video! I found a spot where they cut down some pine trees and the ones still standing which were along the path of machinery and tractors got scraped and secreted quite a lot of sap
I imagine a lot of you know this but I actually just found out last year if you get the sap on your hands use dry leaves to get it off works much better than anything else.
I think I can offer a helpful tip. To melt butter for popcorn I put butter and salt in a metal measuring cup which I then put in a pan filled with about a half inch of water. The hot water melts the butter. The butter does not smoke. The same idea 'should' work for pitch.
Trillium, First of all, Thank you so much for making this vid on pine pitch, much appreciated. Here is a tip for if or when you accidentally get hot pitch on your skin, to Cool the Pitch Fast .... Spit on it! No kidding. Saliva Cools the Pitch Instantly .... helping to avoid a burn from the melted pitch. You can also lick it, cause it won't burn your tongue and the pitch being antibacterial, it won't effect your end product. Originally I learned and used that trick when using Hot melt glue and this technique works every time. : ) Thanks for the mention of the pine needle tea. Lots of Great info on your vids. : )
I make homemade soap and Im going to see if I can incorporate it into it. Im pretty sure i can instead of buying pine tar. O man Im going to have to buy some new notebooks lol. Thank you😀 Hope you dont mind me commenting so much on your videos.
I would love to get into making my own homemade soap with lye, but setting up the dripping containers and the spot o do it is a little much for me where I live right now. You can make pine tar by taking fatwood, either gathered from the wild or purchased. Then treat it like you would charcloth to extract pine tar. This video explains it well through the use of annotations and good close ups, though a little old. It should get you on the right track for making your very own pine tar if you can! ruclips.net/video/FlKH4hYMSiI/видео.html Hope this helps and I certainly don't mind the comments, I love conversing with my viewers and answering questions:) Thank you for your comments Brenda.
Thank you. There is definately alot of ways to make soap. Easiest one uses lard lye and water. Eventually i will be wanting to make my own lye, render my own Fats.Right now its organic bought local or over the net.
I like making new friends with similar interests. You can learn alot from each other. I myself dont have any youtube videos but hope to be making some soon. Thanks for the conversation😀
You're welcome Brenda! I agree with learning from each other, everyone has something to add. I've certainly learned a lot from my viewers and comments! Good luck with making youtube videos, it can be a lot of fun.
Thank you Rick glad it was helpful for you. Never used Gum spirits for parasites but have used Black Walnut Tincture on others for it and it works well too. Thanks for commenting!
Rollsn Raimer Please, please do tell me that you are not buying your turpentine at any hardware stores like Home Depot or Lowe's , or paint shops or artist supply stores... as those products are DANGEROUS because almost all of them are a waste product from paper mills and are processed through PETROLEUM DISTILLATES ...this is why I suggest to people , as does harvard-educated Dr. Jennifer Daniels, to try the brand by DIAMOND G FOREST... they are located in Georgia and I've spoken with them at least four times since December. All it is is the sap from a certain kind of pine tree ..I think it's called a slash pine tree... it looks like vodka and smells kind of like watered-down sambuca or a Anis and powerful healer it is . I also use their soap and their skin Salve.. I called them recently asking them to please make a shampoo as I use their soap but it doesn't have much lather. I guess if I could find soapnut which lathers, I could make my own shampoo or just add a pinch of baby shampoo... but many people are making themselves ill with the wrong kind of turpentine and then this is why BIG Pharma does it's happy dance.
I take a Y-shaped branch, trim it to size and tape a plastic bag too the "V"-shaped part of it so that it looks kind of like a small fishing net. Works great for catching the sap.
I love this video. Your mortar and pestle is very nice. I did know about some of the bushcraft uses of pine pitch, but not the medicinal uses. The eastern white pine is such a beautiful and epic tree with so many good uses. The part when you said it looked like a turd made me laugh and water almost sprayed out of my nose. Lol. 💩
Why is it best for the white pine sap \ pitch to be used, medicinally? Isn't pine sap from the majority of the pines the same? I'm from PA (Philly) and I've found E. White Pine, Red Pine and I think Loblolly Pine in my area - only a few species of pines. I’d like to know if one type of pitch is “better” than another, unless it’s only marginally better. Or are they all equally viable as medicinals?
I haven't been able to find much study on the effectiveness or safety of the other species of pine, I have only seen the ones that reference White Pine which was used the most for medicine historically. Uses of other pines can vary from making tar to turpentine and other things similar. Therefore I err on the side of caution to try to ensure others safety in regards to food or medicine and say the white pine is best for medicine. Chances are they are all equally viable as medicinals, I'm just not sure so I won't say. Thank you for asking Jim!
the white pine has 5 needles in a cluster coming off the stem. Hence, too remember, 5 fingers. It's how I remember. When you get deep in plant and tree identification, it helps if you find memory triggers. Like, white oak and red oak, white oak has rounded lobes on it's leaves, while red oak are pointy, white man shot round balls, while the red man shot pointy arrows. same with cedar. Don't eat agaricus mushrooms with "stinky" yellow feet. (It's the only agaricus mushroom that will make you wish you hadn't ate it. Don't get the "Bolete Blues" Bolete mushrooms that stain blue when you cut them, nope! Just a few of my memory triggers. Hope it helps, and get out there and study and gather and learn, then experience, then teach!
If you are going to use the pitch for medicinal purposes you shouldn't use a Teflon or aluminum pan, Use only copper, cast iron or stainless steel. The Teflon pan will add unknown carcinogenic chemicals to the material.
Not necessarily as teflon doesn't release any carcinogens until heated past like 450 deg. Way too hot for pine pitch. The main fears for teflon come from the 70s and 80s. Aluminum is no problem either because the pine pitch melts at such a low temperature it doesn't release anything dangerous.
Good point, about the temp range. Also, if it’s an unknown carcinogen, how do we know about it? I wouldn’t worry. I eat Teflon chips for breakfast with my eggs every day, and my cancer hasn’t gotten cancer yet
@@TrilliumWildEdiblesI spent almost $300.00 on a book about Perfluoroalkyl and Polyfluoroalkyl Substances. I've "known" about Teflon for over 25 years, it really p'd my wife off that I threw all of our non-stick cookware in the garbage. To Bad, we had kids to raise. Read a book!!! or be an idiot. The difference between someone that's an idiot and is stupid, is that the idiot refuses to learn, someone that's stupid doesn't have the means to learn. 450?! really? where's your laser thermometer? BS. The difference between 350 and 450 is the time it takes you too wink in a dry pan. Erik is spot on, that's the first thing I noticed watching your video was that DuPont coating idiot skillet. Sooo, in my most humble mind, you're an idiot. Cat hair? Cat Hair! wtf. How about the many other things that you can use? Deer or rabbit poop comes to mind. Without this binding element you will have a very brittle adhesive. And no mention of the turpentine gases! again, WTF, sure lets blowup your mom's kitchen! Sorry, I get emotional when I see this kind of crap posted for millions to watch and ponder. All for your channel and the money you make from the lemmings that believe all this crap. YOU ALL LOOK IN TO THIS, MOST OF WHAT THIS GUY SAYS IS TRUE. BUT..... Genesee Preparedness Group. iggy
What about the sap that's still kinda soft and not hard? Can that be used or should I wait until it hardens? (I'm using it for medicine / healing salves)
You can totally use it by all means, it's just sticky and harder to collect in the sense that it will stick to every thing so it's possible to lose quite a bit of it or that reason. But yeas it is totally usable. Hope this helps and thanks for asking lavieemily!
Just found your video. Nice info. Just a wondering if using a pot with water and leaving the pitch in the jar and placing the jar in the hot water would work better?
You could use a ceramic nonstick pan or a stainless steel one. It'll be harder to clean off the stainless steel one but still possible. Hope this helps and thanks for asking Kristine!
Trillium: Wild Edibles Thank you for replying ! Yes i have stainless and cast iron and glass cook ware. I was thinking glass maybe, and trying it in the sun oven till melted enough etc. Love the info of all the possible uses!☺🌲
@@TrilliumWildEdibles was wondering why you use Teflon with such an amazing healing item Teflon is so bad for all of us... maybe you should grab a glass pan from the second hand store 😉😊... so glad I always read the comments before commenting because usually someone already asked the question you wanted to ask. Also usually it leads to another one... thank you for all the amazing info ... Blessings
I've used Apinol (made from pine pitch) after stabbing myself in the hand with a sharp awl (went in about 1/4 in)...pain disappeared immediately, healed up real nice.
I wanted to correct one thing you said about paper towels. Paper towels are not made up of synthetic materials but from cellulose fibers which make up cotton, wood and other plants.
Extremely resistant. Native tribes of the Eastern U.S. used pitch glue for birch bark canoes. So it holds up well under water, wind, freezing temperatures, and more. One of the best things of pine pitch glue is it is waterproof. Hope this helps and thanks for asking Logan!
I've never covered mine except to keep my cat out of it. If you do cover it while it's still sticky it will stay sticky for a lot longer, though that doesn't affect its usage as glue it does make it harder to clean off your hands. So in the end it's up to you really.
When I was young I found out the hard way how very flammable pine sap is. Started a small fire near the base of a pine that was covered in sap. A few minutes later...WHOOSH, flames almost to the top. Bad, very bad.
Oh man I can only imagine what that would be like...had to be a bit scary for sure. Hopefully you weren't harmed in any way. Thanks for commenting David!
Thanks. I'm building guitars and other instruments and looking into these old methods. This could probably be usable at least in some instances. However, I don't like the fact you have to use the black charcoal because it doesn't work very well with certain natural guitar finishes. Is there a way to use something else instead of charcoal that's either wood colored or transparent?
I'm not sure with pine pitch, but you might look into hide glue. It's incredibly strong and it dries clear to my understanding. I've never used it or made it but plenty of information about it is widely available on the internet. Sorry I can't be of more help on this topic, but good luck in finding something that works! Thanks for asking though keeelane!
Thanks. Yeah, hide glue is/was used a ton on instruments. It's a good glue but I just started thinking why some natural resins wouldn't work as well. I doubt hide glue has that much structural integrity which you may need on certain parts of an instrument since it's basically just gelatin-like substance. Now, a tree resin gets very hard and...hey it's a tree so it should have a lot of structural integrity.
Imasurvivor in one of the other comments above someone mentioned using white ashes. It was in reference to making glue. -I don’t know anything about this stuff, but I did see that in one of the other comment threads on this video.
You can substitute the charcoal for saw dust so if you have any very fine saw dust of the wood you are using that will work but trial and error is required to get the ratio correct
Pine sap/pitch in this state can not be kept in a liquid form to my knowledge, it always hardens, always. That would be nice but it does heat up and turn to a liquid rather fast. A normal lighter will do the trick. That's also kind of a good thing because pitch is even more sticky when a liquid, vs. solid, making it much easier to use when solid. Hope this helps a bit and thanks for asking Bismuth LD!
Do all pine resin smell different? I'm trying to get a true pine scent. I tried using Pinon Pine resin on a mustache wax, but the resin has a over-powering smell.
Yes, some smell good and some smell like turpentine, while others are mild enough to barely smell. White pine is probably the one you are after for as it has the characteristic pine smell. Hope this helps and thanks for asking Gnome Beard!
I need to process as much as possible in a short amount of time Re: last comment. Any advice? Im realising how tricky it is to work with. I was thinking of putting oil in a pan first on low heat, cheesecloth on top before melting the pitch then just lift out? Maybe a 2nd clean pan with oil to help strain out the cheesecloth with heat after lifting out all the crap. Or is oil not a good idea. Grapeseed for the high flashpoint. Any ideas to help would be appreciated if you think what i said might work.
I do a lot of arts and crafts. i use a lot of glue and resin it costs a lot, saw this, and would love the learn and videos on how to use it in ways I want
I use it mixed with alcohol to make soldering flux you can adjust its sticky properties by the amount of alcohol in it. Maybe of use if you have a bottle of alcohol lying arround.
@@jamessim1858 It can be.(poverty that is) The way I see it, you can be a victim of poverty or you can *use* it to "better your existence" in the event of a catastrophe. (hurricane, earthquake, forest fire etc.) The more I can do for myself and not have to rely on (not so) civilization, the better off I and my family will be. Our lives are what we make them and I refuse to be a "victim".
It can be burnt as incense to get rid of mosquitoes and other bugs. There is a aerosol spray made with similar glues which acts as bandaid for healing cuts and infections.
3:45 I would be interested in finding out the actual difference micro-biologically between aged and freshly produced pine sap. Im sure fresh has better medicinal uses as nothing has been used up or gone through external processes.
Hello, thank you for sharing this video with us! Would you be able to advise on storing methods once harvested? Should it be kept in mason jar with lid on? How long does it keep? If one wanted the pitch to age/harden what is the best method?! Much appreciated and Spring Blessings! ✨🙏🌿🌲
The only problem with a Mason jar is that once it cools it hardens pretty hard. You would have to heat the jar up quite a bit to get the pitch out. I have found the best way is to store it in a tin can.
I wouldn't know if you could or not as I've never done it. Alos I'm not aware of this pine tar pitch hair grease, I have heard of pine tar soap but have never used or made it. I presume I should give it a go sometime with some white pine, but I need more research before I do that. Thanks for commenting queenofshiba1000, and I'll look into that stuff a bit too!
I have used the soap made by Diamond G Forest pure gum Spirits turpentine company as a shampoo.. it does not lather much but I leave it on my scalp for about a half minute to really get my scalp clean and it does not damage the hair color at all , which right now is a semi permanent color.. meeting I diet with the kind of stuff that washes out a little bit each time you wash your hair and it does not strip it out ..believe it or not as far as I can tell.
Hi , just happened to find your channel and looks interesting , will have to check out what you have for other vids. So , I have a question , what does the charcoal do , or , what do you add it for . Thanks in advance , Cyril
The charcoal acts like a binding agent really, it just helps it to stick better in my experience, that is for glue anyways. For fire starter the charcoal helps to create more heat so it burns hotter. The type of charcoal you use will determine how hot, but hardwood charcoal can make it harder to ignite where as softwood charcoal lights faster. Hope this helps and thanks for asking Cyril!
We had a white pine tree in my yard as a kid. We used to climb it and we always ended up with the pine sap on our hands and in our hair. What a mess. And yes very sticky like glue and hard to get off.
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As a tree surgeon in my past years, I'd just sorta like to point out that a first day wound on a pine tree yealds sweet sap. After the first day it yealds the heavy mucus like resin sap. And like I said the fist 24 hours it's sweet and runny. After the that it becomes a thicker more resiny sap that oozes out. Hope someone can benefit from that... Cheers!
Some really nice deep orange crystal come from the stump years after it has been cut, drawn up by the sun. Thus has really powerful drawing qualities
Tree Surgeon. Is that a funny way of saying lumberjack or some specialisation of an arborist?
Thanks for the tip, would it be considered edible treesap? Just wondering😋
@@johnekare8376 It's the older term for an arborist.
@@YSLRD Cool! I didn't know that.
You don't have to heat it or keep it hot. It dissolves in alcohol (High-proof ethyl or isopropyl won't leave residue}. Just pour the dissolved pine tar through a filter and let the alcohol evaporate in a safe well-ventilated place. What you are left with is clean unburned Pine tar. It is easier to deal with in a cold liquid state. Alcohol is the best way to clean up after it as well.
This is meant to be an all-natural thing. Ethanol is hard to come by in the wild 💀 wouldn't use isopropyl for oral medicine unless you like toxins
I did that once and it looked like a melted caramel sundae. I still have it, too. What’s something you can do with it though?
I patched a hole in my canoe with pine tar, fire and a ziploc bag while on a trip to Algonquin park in the late 80's. It's still working to this day.
How the heck did you do that? I'm trying to learn lol
@@cherrybomb3713 I roughed up around the hole with a broken piece of granite, heated pitch on a stick and applied it to the hole and baggie. Rubbed dry dirt on it to remove stickyness and thats it. Patch is hard as fibreglass!
@@stovepipe9232 dang that's sweet I'll have to keep that in mind for a day when I need something like that
This is the kind of stuff people need to learn and have ready on the side. Thank you.
You're very welcome!
Thanks a bunch, trillumlight edibles for pointing out that mixing cat hairs with resin makes a good glue.
It's more than good, it's superb.
I took some of the fur my cat sheds, mixed it with resin, smeared it on her feet and she's been hanging upside down from my ceiling for a couple of months now: my earlier attempts only lasted for a few hours or so.
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That's absolutely hilarious! I'm a touch under the weather and this gave me a good laugh, so thanks for that!
BTW, I didn't do it to be cruel, I did it as a living art installation--sadly, for some reason the living part no longer applies, :-)
VG channel BTW, I did survival in the British Army, Offshore Survival when I worked on the rigs, and all my near seven decades of life I've been fascinated by nature an what it provides.
Even as a child, I had learned from my mum and dad, useful knowledge on plants and animals.
I see a lot of "advice" on wild edibles and/or medications on TV in print or online by "experts" that will get people killed, and not in a quick way. This applies to many toxic plants, and especially to fungi.
So far the few clips of yours I've watched ( I intend to watch some more, never too late or too smart to learn something useful) were, I'm happy to say, both well-informed and devoid of dangerous advice.
My golden rule is :unless you are in a life-or- death situation, if you cannot identify it 100%don't eat it or use it, especially if it's a fungus-there's very few calories in the vast majority them.if you're 99.9999% certain it's useful--leave it.and walk away!
If poss, do you think you could include a bit of info and and pics of dangerous lookalikes, and the latin classification name--I've noticed that the common name for some plants and animals varies from location to location?
Again, enjoyable clips well presented:-)
@@TrilliumWildEdibles :-)
LOL! You & me would get along fine! I do have 2 cats, love 'em, and 'Yes' they are furry turders....and one resembles a long meaty fur loaf with a couple of flippers at each end!
@@Jigaboo123456 ~ "BTW, I didn't do it to be cruel, I did it as a living art installation--sadly, for some reason the living part no longer applies."
Hmmm.... but the cat IS still hanging there?
We used to pick clumps off and chew it for gum when camping. Old timers called the pitch pine gum.
How are your teeth?
@ Helena Grace
It has very little to no sugar and is antibacterial, so quite good for the teeth.
Now is it PINE or FIR pitch?
Spruce, people chewed spruce gum
Melt the pitch just until soft enough to strain, then add olive oil, and melted beeswax. nice medicinal salve.
Awesome, Thank you for the comment Libby!
my girlfriends mother taught her all about pine pitch & recently we mixed a batch with coconut oil...nother good mix to loosen it up & get benefits of both...cheers for all the great content!!
@@SurprizedDaily That's really gay.
Libby Baker ... is it sticky on the skin??
SurprizedDaily ... is it sticky once applied to the skin?
You can also briefly pre-dip strips of gauze into the hot liquid, cool and store for later cutting to size as needed, for gluing, or as a conveniently pre-medicated wound tape. You just quickly soften a piece of the strip over heat, and apply. Do NOT use on cats, dogs, or other small pets. They will chew it off, ripping both fur and their thin skin off along with the hard-sticking bandage.
Holy crap that is an awesome idea, thank you so much Selina! That will make a very valuable addition to my herbal first aid kit.
Store the pine tree sap in a container for future use.
Great video. There is so much lost knowledge. It is wonderful you are bringing it to RUclips.
Thank you Sue, I'm glad you liked it! There really is so much that we have lost. It has always been somewhat saddening to see the loss of things that are so important.
Sue Miller thare Are like 2,000 videos on this already
@@oye1843 well it's not really lost information if we're sitting here learning it for free on youtube in our underwear
So I’ve been doing some woodworking without using chemicals or metal at all. Just getting raw lumber and trimming it with my hand tools, and I’ve been thinking about making pine sap glue to go along with the dowels to join my joints together. I’m def gonna make some to see how it turns out
How did your woodworking glue go?
Have you tried hide glue yet? Check out the recipe from Lost Art Press (Chris Schwarz).
@@bilithic7421I haven’t found enough to process yet. Currently I have about 7 lamps I’ve made from raw wood and they have these root bases I wanna glue together. I can’t even find enough to make enough glue for even one yet
Interesting video. I once woked at a chemical plant that processed resins. We sold the final products to other companies that made adhisives. So even today, pitch is used to make some types of glues.
My Grandma was Cherokee & when we would gather wood she would give us pieces of pine pitch to chew (like gum).
Hmmm... I didn't know that pone pitch could be used the same way, always thought it was just sweet gum and spruce trees. Pretty cool, thanks for sharing Mag Kyt!
i herd it was used to heal broken jaws amazing without surgery.
@@Briandodd760 probably pretty good for any teeth/mouth problems... Bacteria etc. 🤔
@@Briandodd760 In one case tree gum was successfully applied as ointment on a large broken scalp instead of stitches while a doctor was not available. It healed perfectly without a doctor or medicine however it took longer.
@@CrackDavidson1 Or tooth filling in emergency cases.
Learn something everyday, it’s amazing how much I have learned in the last few months since I started on RUclips, it’s great to get support from other you tubers and see all the new skills we can share. Great video pal
Why I was growing up my mom would use pine tree sap to clean out cuts, bites and infections. She would warm up the tree sap and when it became soft and malleable she would place it over the cut or bite. She would place a bandage over the pine tree sap. The pine tree sap would suck the infection or poison out. But the only problem is it would not help the wound heal. The opening would be white and clean. You would have to re-bandage the opening for it to heal. My mom would have a small coffee can full of pine tree sap.
Great video. Sap is the sugary substance excreted from trees in an almost liquid form often used for making syrup while pitch is actually what you are harvesting. It tends to be a more semi-liquid to almost hardened secretion from the tree as it tries to heal it’s own wounds. They are not actually the same thing. Also, if you keep your pitch in a baggie and freeze it, you will find it is much easier to remove and handle in that form.
Pine sap also has anti-inflammatory properties as well the turpines (flavor and smell).
Yes it does, thanks for sharing!
Terpenes?
I enjoy your videos, you're very well spoken, and have pretty good explanations.
Thank you MrGSF77, I try to explain things the best I can!
To make pine pitch glue I like to use Pine pitch, Deer dung(Don’t use it if it’s fresh use it if it’s dry and a little aged) ,charcoal(Grinded into powder) and I heard putting some beeswax or animal fat into the mix makes it more flexible but I haven’t tried that yet.
Worth noting that it takes a LOT of time to gather the amount of sap that he is showing in the jar. A single tree won't give nearly as much, so if you plan to gather sap uou have to find a pine forest. And of course not every tree is wounded! Great video and useful i formation ❤
Generally, yeah it can take a lot of time to get this much. I actually got lucky with it because one of my friends had a pine tree that had been all beat up from axes and such over many years so all that's in the jar came from one tree in a matter of minutes. However it took years to accrue there.
I have a small bucket full of sap that took about 3 or so years to get filled up and that was a lot if walking in pine forests to find it all. Thanks for commenting and helping give others some insight!
@@TrilliumWildEdibles thank you for the video! I found a spot where they cut down some pine trees and the ones still standing which were along the path of machinery and tractors got scraped and secreted quite a lot of sap
Georgia Mountain Boys calls it Pine Rosum. (Raw Zun) Its a great way to seal off sap holes in fruit trees and boats, even glue wood together
Resin - spelling makes a difference
Lots of information here and in the comment community. Thanks good job sharing!
Interesting fur in pine sap. Is the equivalent to rebar in concrete. You learn something every day. Thanks 👍
Yep. Fur, hair, dried grass/plant fibers all work the same way.
@@TrilliumWildEdiblesI use rabbit poop as a fiber when making pine pitch glue
I imagine a lot of you know this but I actually just found out last year if you get the sap on your hands use dry leaves to get it off works much better than anything else.
alcohol works great too, get a small bottle of hand sanitizer or isopropyl
I wander if it could be used as denture adhesive? I worry about what I could glue my teeth in with in a SHTF situation.
when i go hiking, i found a huge spruce pine tree on the edge of a cliff and the tree oozes a ton of sap and i collected a ton and brought it home
Awesome! I don't work with spruce because I don't run across a lot of it but I hear it's great stuff!! Thanks for commenting!
There is no such thing as a "spruce pine tree".
I think I can offer a helpful tip.
To melt butter for popcorn I put butter and salt in a metal measuring cup which I then put in a pan filled with about a half inch of water. The hot water melts the butter. The butter does not smoke. The same idea 'should' work for pitch.
Trillium, First of all, Thank you so much for making this vid on pine pitch, much appreciated. Here is a tip for if or when you accidentally get hot pitch on your skin, to Cool the Pitch Fast .... Spit on it! No kidding. Saliva Cools the Pitch Instantly .... helping to avoid a burn from the melted pitch. You can also lick it, cause it won't burn your tongue and the pitch being antibacterial, it won't effect your end product. Originally I learned and used that trick when using Hot melt glue and this technique works every time. : ) Thanks for the mention of the pine needle tea. Lots of Great info on your vids. : )
I make homemade soap and Im going to see if I can incorporate it into it. Im pretty sure i can instead of buying pine tar. O man Im going to have to buy some new notebooks lol. Thank you😀 Hope you dont mind me commenting so much on your videos.
I would love to get into making my own homemade soap with lye, but setting up the dripping containers and the spot o do it is a little much for me where I live right now.
You can make pine tar by taking fatwood, either gathered from the wild or purchased. Then treat it like you would charcloth to extract pine tar. This video explains it well through the use of annotations and good close ups, though a little old. It should get you on the right track for making your very own pine tar if you can! ruclips.net/video/FlKH4hYMSiI/видео.html
Hope this helps and I certainly don't mind the comments, I love conversing with my viewers and answering questions:) Thank you for your comments Brenda.
Thank you. There is definately alot of ways to make soap. Easiest one uses lard lye and water. Eventually i will be wanting to make my own lye, render my own Fats.Right now its organic bought local or over the net.
I like making new friends with similar interests. You can learn alot from each other. I myself dont have any youtube videos but hope to be making some soon. Thanks for the conversation😀
You're welcome Brenda! I agree with learning from each other, everyone has something to add. I've certainly learned a lot from my viewers and comments! Good luck with making youtube videos, it can be a lot of fun.
I do as well. I also make beeswax candles. I am hoping I can add pine sap to one
Great info.
I use Gum spirits for internal medicinal parasites and candida.
Never heard of white pine usage.
Thank you Rick glad it was helpful for you. Never used Gum spirits for parasites but have used Black Walnut Tincture on others for it and it works well too. Thanks for commenting!
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Please, please do tell me that you are not buying your turpentine at any hardware stores like Home Depot or Lowe's , or paint shops or artist supply stores... as those products are DANGEROUS because almost all of them are a waste product from paper mills and are processed through PETROLEUM DISTILLATES ...this is why I suggest to people , as does harvard-educated Dr. Jennifer Daniels, to try the brand by DIAMOND G FOREST... they are located in Georgia and I've spoken with them at least four times since December.
All it is is the sap from a certain kind of pine tree ..I think it's called a slash pine tree... it looks like vodka and smells kind of like watered-down sambuca or a Anis and powerful healer it is .
I also use their soap and their skin Salve.. I called them recently asking them to please make a shampoo as I use their soap but it doesn't have much lather.
I guess if I could find soapnut which lathers, I could make my own shampoo or just add a pinch of baby shampoo... but many people are making themselves ill with the wrong kind of turpentine and then this is why BIG Pharma does it's happy dance.
Lady on You Tube's dog had heart worm and black walnut cured the pup. She continues to use it daily for her pup to keep them away.
paper towels are made from synthetic materials? Like synthetic trees or pulp?
I recommend using the fresh, clear to white soft sap for skin bandages. No heat needed.
I take a Y-shaped branch, trim it to size and tape a plastic bag too the "V"-shaped part of it so that it looks kind of like a small fishing net. Works great for catching the sap.
I love this video. Your mortar and pestle is very nice. I did know about some of the bushcraft uses of pine pitch, but not the medicinal uses. The eastern white pine is such a beautiful and epic tree with so many good uses. The part when you said it looked like a turd made me laugh and water almost sprayed out of my nose. Lol. 💩
I've been watching a lot of your videos lately, thanks for producing such high quality informative content for us
You're very welcome, I'm glad you are enjoying them!
I have a pine tree look alike plant & its oozing orange stuff from the tips of the branches what is it.
You really should make a video of making that bark into a flour! ... You know how many likes that would bring ya.... Do it up.
Why is it best for the white pine sap \ pitch to be used, medicinally? Isn't pine sap from the majority of the pines the same? I'm from PA (Philly) and I've found E. White Pine, Red Pine and I think Loblolly Pine in my area - only a few species of pines. I’d like to know if one type of pitch is “better” than another, unless it’s only marginally better. Or are they all equally viable as medicinals?
I haven't been able to find much study on the effectiveness or safety of the other species of pine, I have only seen the ones that reference White Pine which was used the most for medicine historically. Uses of other pines can vary from making tar to turpentine and other things similar. Therefore I err on the side of caution to try to ensure others safety in regards to food or medicine and say the white pine is best for medicine. Chances are they are all equally viable as medicinals, I'm just not sure so I won't say. Thank you for asking Jim!
NO, not all species of Geniuses are equal.
rjiggy07 .....what are 5 fingers.
the white pine has 5 needles in a cluster coming off the stem. Hence, too remember, 5 fingers. It's how I remember. When you get deep in plant and tree identification, it helps if you find memory triggers. Like, white oak and red oak, white oak has rounded lobes on it's leaves, while red oak are pointy, white man shot round balls, while the red man shot pointy arrows. same with cedar. Don't eat agaricus mushrooms with "stinky" yellow feet. (It's the only agaricus mushroom that will make you wish you hadn't ate it. Don't get the "Bolete Blues" Bolete mushrooms that stain blue when you cut them, nope! Just a few of my memory triggers. Hope it helps, and get out there and study and gather and learn, then experience, then teach!
Thanks
If you are going to use the pitch for medicinal purposes you shouldn't use a Teflon or aluminum pan, Use only copper, cast iron or stainless steel. The Teflon pan will add unknown carcinogenic chemicals to the material.
Not necessarily as teflon doesn't release any carcinogens until heated past like 450 deg. Way too hot for pine pitch. The main fears for teflon come from the 70s and 80s. Aluminum is no problem either because the pine pitch melts at such a low temperature it doesn't release anything dangerous.
The Romans used brass; found that no bacteria can stick to it.
Good point, about the temp range. Also, if it’s an unknown carcinogen, how do we know about it? I wouldn’t worry. I eat Teflon chips for breakfast with my eggs every day, and my cancer hasn’t gotten cancer yet
@@TrilliumWildEdiblesI spent almost $300.00 on a book about Perfluoroalkyl and Polyfluoroalkyl Substances. I've "known" about Teflon for over 25 years, it really p'd my wife off that I threw all of our non-stick cookware in the garbage. To Bad, we had kids to raise. Read a book!!! or be an idiot. The difference between someone that's an idiot and is stupid, is that the idiot refuses to learn, someone that's stupid doesn't have the means to learn.
450?! really? where's your laser thermometer? BS. The difference between 350 and 450 is the time it takes you too wink in a dry pan. Erik is spot on, that's the first thing I noticed watching your video was that DuPont coating idiot skillet. Sooo, in my most humble mind, you're an idiot.
Cat hair? Cat Hair! wtf. How about the many other things that you can use? Deer or rabbit poop comes to mind. Without this binding element you will have a very brittle adhesive. And no mention of the turpentine gases! again, WTF, sure lets blowup your mom's kitchen!
Sorry, I get emotional when I see this kind of crap posted for millions to watch and ponder. All for your channel and the money you make from the lemmings that believe all this crap.
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I loved it! Learned so much from you!
hello.does pitch of other trees have the same characteristics as the pine pitch?
No, they are different. They follow the DNA of the tree in medicinal property.
What about the sap that's still kinda soft and not hard? Can that be used or should I wait until it hardens? (I'm using it for medicine / healing salves)
You can totally use it by all means, it's just sticky and harder to collect in the sense that it will stick to every thing so it's possible to lose quite a bit of it or that reason. But yeas it is totally usable. Hope this helps and thanks for asking lavieemily!
Such a gentleman! Turd talk and all.
You can heat it and inhale the smoke.Its a natural antianxiety remedy
can use it internally?
Just found your video. Nice info. Just a wondering if using a pot with water and leaving the pitch in the jar and placing the jar in the hot water would work better?
It might take longer to melt, but will definitely prevent the pitch from scorching. By all means it would work very well!
You have so much knowledge in you. Thank you!
You're welcome!
What other type of pan would be good with this? I dont have or want teflon.
You could use a ceramic nonstick pan or a stainless steel one. It'll be harder to clean off the stainless steel one but still possible. Hope this helps and thanks for asking Kristine!
Trillium: Wild Edibles
Thank you for replying ! Yes i have stainless and cast iron and glass cook ware. I was thinking glass maybe, and trying it in the sun oven till melted enough etc. Love the info of all the possible uses!☺🌲
Oh man I forgot about glass cookware, that would work great! You're very welcome for the reply, I love talking with my viewers!
@@TrilliumWildEdibles was wondering why you use Teflon with such an amazing healing item Teflon is so bad for all of us... maybe you should grab a glass pan from the second hand store 😉😊... so glad I always read the comments before commenting because usually someone already asked the question you wanted to ask. Also usually it leads to another one... thank you for all the amazing info ... Blessings
@@SMA1mommy because you're not eating pine pitch.
Do you reckon dried mud work work instead of charcoal, be a nicer colour
I don't believe it would but I've never really tried it.
Why use charcoal tho? What does that to for it as a glue?
Do you use it for medicine.
How with it being.
So, sticky ? Is there a binding.
Agents. To change it properties.
Use. To soft or liquid.
Thank you for your tutorial it was awesome
I've used Apinol (made from pine pitch) after stabbing myself in the hand with a sharp awl (went in about 1/4 in)...pain disappeared immediately, healed up real nice.
I wanted to correct one thing you said about paper towels. Paper towels are not made up of synthetic materials but from cellulose fibers which make up cotton, wood and other plants.
I’ve also seen tripod leveled set up as well. God job and thank you.
Thank you for this video! Is there any way to make pitch glue that is clear colored?
Does it work with a double boiler
Is this the same as pine tar???
I don't have white pine I have Virginia pine can I use that?
How resistant is the pitch glue to the elements?
Extremely resistant. Native tribes of the Eastern U.S. used pitch glue for birch bark canoes. So it holds up well under water, wind, freezing temperatures, and more. One of the best things of pine pitch glue is it is waterproof. Hope this helps and thanks for asking Logan!
It ain't ..it's sap ..ant eat da shit ..water break it down ..get you some tar from da store ..dis home made stuff is ole timey and barely work ..
I can let my collected sticky pitch just sit out and age? Or do I need to put it in a container with a lid to age?
I've never covered mine except to keep my cat out of it. If you do cover it while it's still sticky it will stay sticky for a lot longer, though that doesn't affect its usage as glue it does make it harder to clean off your hands. So in the end it's up to you really.
What kind of pine pitch do we use in order to seal the inside of a leather bottle?
When I was young I found out the hard way how very flammable pine sap is. Started a small fire near the base of a pine that was covered in sap. A few minutes later...WHOOSH, flames almost to the top. Bad, very bad.
Oh man I can only imagine what that would be like...had to be a bit scary for sure. Hopefully you weren't harmed in any way. Thanks for commenting David!
Nobody was harmed. Our neighbor from across the street saw it and brought his hose over.
Glad no one was harmed, and that's a nice neighbor to have!
Just have to look at the videos of the wild fires in Colorado to see how bad that is.
Well, thanks to you, anybody that reads your comment will have that in their mind! There's a reason for everything...
Is it the same for Pinion?
Can you please tell me why you use charcoal for making glue. Is it used as a thickener? Color? Thank you for the video.
It helps as a binding agent, along with the fur/hair. Plus it does work as a thickener too! You're very welcome Jacquelyn and I hope this helps!
Thank you.
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Thanks. I'm building guitars and other instruments and looking into these old methods. This could probably be usable at least in some instances. However, I don't like the fact you have to use the black charcoal because it doesn't work very well with certain natural guitar finishes. Is there a way to use something else instead of charcoal that's either wood colored or transparent?
I'm not sure with pine pitch, but you might look into hide glue. It's incredibly strong and it dries clear to my understanding. I've never used it or made it but plenty of information about it is widely available on the internet. Sorry I can't be of more help on this topic, but good luck in finding something that works! Thanks for asking though keeelane!
Thanks. Yeah, hide glue is/was used a ton on instruments. It's a good glue but I just started thinking why some natural resins wouldn't work as well. I doubt hide glue has that much structural integrity which you may need on certain parts of an instrument since it's basically just gelatin-like substance. Now, a tree resin gets very hard and...hey it's a tree so it should have a lot of structural integrity.
You can try varying amounts of baking soda. I’d experiment a lot before using it though. It must be mixed very well
Imasurvivor in one of the other comments above someone mentioned using white ashes. It was in reference to making glue. -I don’t know anything about this stuff, but I did see that in one of the other comment threads on this video.
You can substitute the charcoal for saw dust so if you have any very fine saw dust of the wood you are using that will work but trial and error is required to get the ratio correct
Could you put it in a sealed container to keep it liquid?
Pine sap/pitch in this state can not be kept in a liquid form to my knowledge, it always hardens, always. That would be nice but it does heat up and turn to a liquid rather fast. A normal lighter will do the trick. That's also kind of a good thing because pitch is even more sticky when a liquid, vs. solid, making it much easier to use when solid. Hope this helps a bit and thanks for asking Bismuth LD!
Mixing with isopropyl (rubbing alcohol) will keep it in liquid form. Just be sure the container is sealed well.
Make a salve with the pitch and beeswax. Add a bit of coconut oil and charcoal also for an excellent healing salve.
Do all pine resin smell different? I'm trying to get a true pine scent. I tried using Pinon Pine resin on a mustache wax, but the resin has a over-powering smell.
Yes, some smell good and some smell like turpentine, while others are mild enough to barely smell. White pine is probably the one you are after for as it has the characteristic pine smell. Hope this helps and thanks for asking Gnome Beard!
I need to process as much as possible in a short amount of time Re: last comment. Any advice? Im realising how tricky it is to work with. I was thinking of putting oil in a pan first on low heat, cheesecloth on top before melting the pitch then just lift out? Maybe a 2nd clean pan with oil to help strain out the cheesecloth with heat after lifting out all the crap. Or is oil not a good idea. Grapeseed for the high flashpoint. Any ideas to help would be appreciated if you think what i said might work.
You can totally do that or even without the oil. I would recommend using an old clean t-shirt instead of cheese cloth though.
I do a lot of arts and crafts. i use a lot of glue and resin it costs a lot, saw this, and would love the learn and videos on how to use it in ways I want
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Great video mate.
Would pine pitch and flour make a strong glue?
I use it mixed with alcohol to make soldering flux you can adjust its sticky properties by the amount of alcohol in it. Maybe of use if you have a bottle of alcohol lying arround.
Electric stove. Non-stick Farberware pan. Stirs the pine pitch with a stick just because it seems right...
Distilled some turpentine, there's a cloudy layer and a clear layer... Not sure why, can't really find info on it
You explain well. Great video.
Milkweed sap is very sticky too and can be used as a glue.
I like that weapon you crafted. Is that obsidian?
Thank you! No it is a type of Agate known as Crystal Slate Agate from Arkansas.
Trillium: Wild Edibles its very nice! I will have to check that type out now! Thanks
Thought for a minute you were going after the White Walkers!
my Grannie used this on ALL of my cuts and scrapes!!!
Poverty is a hellish thing ain't it fellow citizen!
@@jamessim1858 It can be.(poverty that is)
The way I see it, you can be a victim of poverty or you can *use* it to "better your existence" in the event of a catastrophe. (hurricane, earthquake, forest fire etc.)
The more I can do for myself and not have to rely on (not so) civilization, the better off I and my family will be.
Our lives are what we make them and I refuse to be a "victim".
what about adding some water so it wont burn or so you can easy wash it out
Great medical use and can be used to make glue
you are awesome dude....
Thanks Thomas!
Thank you for your video. My great granny
You're welcome Rodney! Thanks for commenting!
Great show!
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for commenting!
👍👌THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!!
It can be burnt as incense to get rid of mosquitoes and other bugs. There is a aerosol spray made with similar glues which acts as bandaid for healing cuts and infections.
3:45 I would be interested in finding out the actual difference micro-biologically between aged and freshly produced pine sap. Im sure fresh has better medicinal uses as nothing has been used up or gone through external processes.
That would make sense but I'm not sure at all. It would be very interesting to see what happens after it has sat for a while.
@@TrilliumWildEdibles I guess it only becomes stronger with similar chemistry.
Hello, thank you for sharing this video with us! Would you be able to advise on storing methods once harvested? Should it be kept in mason jar with lid on? How long does it keep? If one wanted the pitch to age/harden what is the best method?! Much appreciated and Spring Blessings! ✨🙏🌿🌲
The only problem with a Mason jar is that once it cools it hardens pretty hard. You would have to heat the jar up quite a bit to get the pitch out. I have found the best way is to store it in a tin can.
How many times did he say pitch or pine pitch?
How about loblolly pine?
Its not sap.. Its resin.. Not the same thing.. Sap carries nutrients throughout the tree.. Its watery.. Pitch is a resin.. Very viscous
How can a person get in contact with you Trillium? I'm currently trying to identify a few species of Wild lettuce and I would like your help thanks
Can I get turpentine from pine rosin?
This where y’all’s “Cali wax” is coming from🤣
I can I put this in my hair as a hair paste with beeswax. There's already a grease call pine tar pitch hair grease
I wouldn't know if you could or not as I've never done it. Alos I'm not aware of this pine tar pitch hair grease, I have heard of pine tar soap but have never used or made it. I presume I should give it a go sometime with some white pine, but I need more research before I do that. Thanks for commenting queenofshiba1000, and I'll look into that stuff a bit too!
Nooooo! God No! Pine pitch and beeswax would make a great hair removal paste.
I have used the soap made by Diamond G Forest pure gum Spirits turpentine company as a shampoo.. it does not lather much but I leave it on my scalp for about a half minute to really get my scalp clean and it does not damage the hair color at all , which right now is a semi permanent color.. meeting I diet with the kind of stuff that washes out a little bit each time you wash your hair and it does not strip it out ..believe it or not as far as I can tell.
Could u put this in a metal tube so it is easy to apply? Nice video on how to coöperate with nature and make is beauthiful product.
i love the usage of morse code finger taps
Hi , just happened to find your channel and looks interesting , will have to check out what you have for other vids. So , I have a question , what does the charcoal do , or , what do you add it for . Thanks in advance , Cyril
The charcoal acts like a binding agent really, it just helps it to stick better in my experience, that is for glue anyways. For fire starter the charcoal helps to create more heat so it burns hotter. The type of charcoal you use will determine how hot, but hardwood charcoal can make it harder to ignite where as softwood charcoal lights faster. Hope this helps and thanks for asking Cyril!
We had a white pine tree in my yard as a kid. We used to climb it and we always ended up with the pine sap on our hands and in our hair. What a mess. And yes very sticky like glue and hard to get off.