The elite class in the government and in these private corporations don't like what you said right there. That's democratic socialism. But I, who is in the same class as you fully agree with what you are saying we the people of the world should not be continued to be milked for money and data we must have our fair share of profit.
@Wamsubnz Lol. I once help develop a system for a supermarket to gather customer data and shopping behavior. Google "shopper research" and "product placement strategy". So, yea, this is nothing new.
It took almost 7 minutes before Kristie Pladson (the lady in the thumbnail) came out. DW knows how to rope in the audience 😅 PS. Leonie von Hammerstein would also look great as a thumbnail photo 😊
Do you think so? Because all Europe will do is abuse Big Tech companies for their own censorship and abuse as much as possible. If anyone should regulate Big Tech it is the United Sates with the united states constitution. The only constitution that actually guarantees all freedoms one should have.
thats nonsense. Plenty of innovation comes from europe, only because you dont see big consumer tech coming from european companies does not mean there is no technological innovation form europe. Just to give you an example, europe's ASML is the only one in the world capable of producing the machines that produce all our chips. They are the single player in the world driving this technology and morse's law. You just dont hear from them as it is bussines to bussines and not to consumers.
@@hansklok3564 it is all relative in a period of future shock and accelerating innovation cycles other regions are leaving Europe behind. Even the Danish head of Spotify says it's a huge problem...
@@PeterSodhi you mean in the digital world. On the real world Europe is just as advanced as US or China. A lot of money spent worldwide into research comes from EU funds. CERN is in Europe, ITAR fusion reactor is also here. Maglevs were invented in Germany. Biontech the one selling Coronavirus vaccines (together with Pfizer) is european. Those are very small examples
Wait so does this only affect US companies? Isn't this just unfair to be against companies from one country? What about Samsung they make phones just like Apple why aren't they subjected to more regulations?
What are you even talking about here? What is the framework? How does it work? What policies are we talking about here?? Why this ridiculous dancing around?
Holly Batman! What do you mean? Like giving all their data to Palantir and then having the CIA running psychological operations at unsuspected Europeans overseas? I would buy you an ouzo if that was true!
and LinkedIn? not GDPR compliant, ever try to export your data and import to another platform in the last 2 years? not possible, LI actively blocking potential competitors
Great, i am really encouraged by European law reform concerning technology. It is none too soon yet appears leaps and bounds ahead of the rest of the world, where arguably there has been surprisingly little done in this area of law reform in spite of the sweeping rate of accelerated change which has completely transformed the world. Seeing new laws like this created where previously there was a void is exciting and comforting and invites hope for the future in an ever more tech dominated world.
By default the UK always had a more liberal approach to corporate interests so i doubt they would. Also Johnson would basicly shoot himself into the foot politcly speaking by orientating his policy proposals on EU blueprints.
Fines...they are so rich that they don't care...ban them from the EU if they don't follow the rules. They can easily earn more than the fine by not following the rules. Data is gold in our age.
Tech giant need to take more responsibility for small tech companies without any major interests. Need more guide to their expansion in any industries over night to acquire business & company.
While I agree with limiting their power, global economics means that they can just leave the european market altogether to a venue with less of a reputation for human rights, etc.
So let me get this straight, everyone uses these services completely free of charge, but then people get mad when those service providers sell anonymous data to advertisers to make money? Really...?
The value they get from your data is way more than the cost of the service to you. They use your data to develop algorithms and technologies. They are mining a territory that belongs to no one right now, it's primitive accumulation at its finest.
Does that just mean that the American digital products are just more appealing to the customers than Eu products? Americans are more risk taking and quick to respond, develop and advance further.
Tech giants doing politics and politics going into tech is rarely a good sign. Lets hope one day decentralized systems with no one in power will be the way forward. Decentralized systems means politics/CEO/small group of people will stay out of control of such systems.
Well if a CEO makes an alternative to RUclips but better, that CEO should be in charge of their own service and as long as that CEO stays out of being political, things should be fine.
@@sucram1015 When so much power is aggreggated into one place where enormous knowledge and information is held and also a lot of computational power, people around it will know that they within their grasp of a lot of power that no human had before. Such people could be a CEO or a political figure such as in china, ar even a political dictator from EU. The other alternative is for technology to have as few central points of control as possible.
if eu wants to be independent, has to block one company as soon as possible. Because this company is gaining more and more power. And it has mechanism which can manipulate and destroy or promote selected companies. Such, for example manipulated opinions of users can lead to the destruction of company.
The content was leaked? Lol. That means the tech giants could lobby successfully....for changes in the law. Powerful lobbies make businesses go well! Right? Lol. 😁
Good luck with that. I fully support Europe's goal of curbing American dominance in Europe in terms of advanced tech, but such action will have profound impact in EU-American relationship. US will not let EU have independent technologies that could start the fourth industrial revolution.
This is a terrible initiative, it will effectively make smaller companies unable to compete because they won't have the budget to build the systems to enforce these very strict state imposed censorship. Making PLATFORMS responsible for their customers SPEECH will make sure no one tries to build a competitor because EVERYONE will have a huge liability risk, only billionaire companies with enough cash for the best lawyers available or companies from outside Europe operating away from EU rules will risk being in this business Remember, the telephone companies are not responsible for their users content and we wouldn't want uncountable PRIVATE interests to have state sanctioned, unilateral, final say in which customer they get to limit from their network. If a criminal uses the Telecom to communicate with their accomplices to commit a crime, we don't fine Telecom for not monitoring everyone so closely so they can detect a crime is being planned on their networks. We wouldn't want them to be the arbiters of who can use their services based on the content. We recognize access to a communication platform like a telephone like IS a human right. You people are nuts for celebrating this!!
EU needs to regulate its information industry just like auto industry. With current open border practice, EU will never have its own tech giants who can compete with Google, Facebook or Amazon in this information/digital age.
give those tech giants another valid pricing model to finance themselves. Would you pay 20$ per month for instagram? You can't just say it's illegal to collect my data for targeted ads and it's my legal right to use the platform for free
If this reigns in control of Big Tech here in the US, I welcome it. Technically, it has to. For example, even thought Apple, Google, Parler, and Amazon are American companies, if they can be accessed in Europe, their actions against Parler can be seen as hostile across every market it's accessible in. The actions Facebook and Twitter have taken against Republicans and conservatives as of late (I'm not just talking about Trump...think Ron Paul), not only does it control freedom of speech in America, those filters carry over to Europe. If that'll be illegal in Europe, they'll have to answer why people have more access to information in Europe than America.
@@Maxet-hp8ws no and it never has. Competition is a dynamic process, even if Amazon for example becomes a monopoly (due to being better and cheaper btw), the moment it raises prices other entrepreneurs can start undercutting them. BUT if there is alot of regulation in place this is not possible, the small business will need teams of lawyers, accountants, extra employees just to follow regulation. There has almost never been any monopoly that wasn't due to government 'regulation'.
@@Maxet-hp8ws "Standard Oil did precisely the opposite of what monopoly theory maintains-it reduced rather than raised prices, it increased rather than cut production, it lost rather than “controlled” market share, and it paid its employees more rather than less than its competitors-yet the theory that Standard Oil engaged in “predatory practices” and “exploited” consumers has prevailed in our history books." Unregulated markets allow anyone, even from other countries to compete with you. You win when you increase efficiency.
Good news! About time an effort was made to show them limits to their actions. I still think though we need to break up our patent system in many ways. After China more or less has learned anything from us there is, it maybe a good aproach to start stealing a bit ourselves ^^. OpenSource principals could help saving a lot on development costs while making us also less vulnurable against theft as it is already free to use with the plead to have improvements reported back.
yea its a good thing to put these regulation but that bad side is huge and will backfire. 1. Big tech giant already past the stages of trying to get consumers therefore any upcoming company will have to follow this rule and breaking it will be a opportunity for the big tech to crush them as a way of saying "huhm if i have to follow the law then he has to too" 2. if the companies get fined the result will only end up on us, European consumers will have to pay the price. 3. Remember hate speech is an opinion not a fact doing this will even give them more power to sensor most information because the Eu can't say "hey google sensor this and not that" that wont happen.
Why did you include are you sad that they crushed Nokia by competing with innovation and making a product people liked. Eu is becoming so antibusiness next Detroit
That’s not the story, though. Since China has huge population abt 1/5 of the world population, it has own giants. And, starting now, Chinese government also have same problems of the super powers, the new fines and rules is catching up to regulate it.
@h s since they broken the Chinese laws, provided the community for terrorist organizations, which killed many civilians in Xinjiang, and refused to negotiate with Chinese government.
I thought I was tripping out when the woman in red started talking
@Chishio Chishio on ps4 tho 😂
🤣
The editor is having fun.
it was probably the only footage they got of that speech, I respect the willingness to get it out anyways :) dw is providing a great service
She changes to the woman we see in the thumbnail.
yes please, also deport Mark Zukerburg to his home planet Neptune.
Please start the deportation soon. He already started to assimilate a rather big part of all mankind.
😭😭
😜 and send Elon musk to mars already, so he won't go around, visiting others houses in the middle of the night.
I will deport him to uranus
That be Elon Musk to the strange planet Zoss.I'm sure he is a clone the real one is gone.
does the eu employ holograms?
Did you expect that ? I am as suprized as you.
Yes and they were all having a !malfunction!
No, it's an artificial intelligence in office.
A.I.
a new age waits
I hope this will be applied worldwide not just in EU.
The world would be better off without any of the 'Tech' giants, there's nothing Tech about Wastebook...
Nah, it is just better to have your own Tech giants instead of having a foreign Tech giants to control your own people.
If Facebook disappears tomorrow, the world won't be any worst.
how about we all get a data cheque, since my data is so valuable..
The price of facebook/twitter ect is the data.
The elite class in the government and in these private corporations don't like what you said right there. That's democratic socialism.
But I, who is in the same class as you fully agree with what you are saying we the people of the world should not be continued to be milked for money and data we must have our fair share of profit.
Are you not using Twitter & Facebook for Free??
The irony of saying "my data is so valuable.." while your username is "huntingforwifi"..
@Wamsubnz Lol. I once help develop a system for a supermarket to gather customer data and shopping behavior.
Google "shopper research" and "product placement strategy".
So, yea, this is nothing new.
I'd be more impressed if they can close the tax dodges so that local companies are at least on the same playing field as international companies.
EU actually started to clamp down on tax evasion in 2015, then brexit happened so hopefully they can continue to make progress
More of this please, it's well overdue!
Thank you for spending the time to create and share this content 🙏🏾
This is a message to RUclips, I boycott every product whose advts keep popping up during the video. I had enough of this.
How about youtube adverts?
Then stop using their service.
I'm sure it was a difficult decision choosing Kristie Pladson as the thumbnail for this video.
Click bait for having a pretty face😍 thumbnail.
I literally only clicked because of the thumbnail lol
Google amazon and Facebook......you can see the apple logo there but you didn't call it what an irony
It took almost 7 minutes before Kristie Pladson (the lady in the thumbnail) came out. DW knows how to rope in the audience 😅
PS. Leonie von Hammerstein would also look great as a thumbnail photo 😊
EU is finally standing up for itself.
I doubt the State will remove their boots from Western throats.
But the EU still does not have its own tech giant...🤦♀️
Mean while Germany 🇩🇪 we will do business with China we don’t care about democracy we care about economy lol 😆
nah fam, haven't you heard ?
EU is giving China a bj in the back alley.
Do you think so? Because all Europe will do is abuse Big Tech companies for their own censorship and abuse as much as possible.
If anyone should regulate Big Tech it is the United Sates with the united states constitution. The only constitution that actually guarantees all freedoms one should have.
Europe relied so long on its colonial legacy it forgot how to innovate since the industrial revolution...
thats nonsense. Plenty of innovation comes from europe, only because you dont see big consumer tech coming from european companies does not mean there is no technological innovation form europe. Just to give you an example, europe's ASML is the only one in the world capable of producing the machines that produce all our chips. They are the single player in the world driving this technology and morse's law. You just dont hear from them as it is bussines to bussines and not to consumers.
@@hansklok3564 it is all relative in a period of future shock and accelerating innovation cycles other regions are leaving Europe behind. Even the Danish head of Spotify says it's a huge problem...
@@PeterSodhi you mean in the digital world. On the real world Europe is just as advanced as US or China. A lot of money spent worldwide into research comes from EU funds. CERN is in Europe, ITAR fusion reactor is also here. Maglevs were invented in Germany. Biontech the one selling Coronavirus vaccines (together with Pfizer) is european. Those are very small examples
he left the house thinking the would be filmed behind the desk... instead...
Why are we skipping Apple?
Guys, the Google is listening EVEN THAT I TURNED IT OFF
it's about time
Sharing, Justice and Peace for All.
Europe is too dependant on American big techs. they should start their own big tech company.
Wait so does this only affect US companies? Isn't this just unfair to be against companies from one country? What about Samsung they make phones just like Apple why aren't they subjected to more regulations?
What are you even talking about here? What is the framework? How does it work? What policies are we talking about here?? Why this ridiculous dancing around?
I noticed a number of weird things in this video
If you don’t like the terms of using the tech giants services, don’t use them.
it is not this simple sadly
Giovanna Simioni well, what price do you think a person should pay to use their services?
@@bigjay8895 CCP is paying them
What do the lawmakers expect? People are still going to use Google for searching.
why do people still cross roadwhen lights are red?
Fully support this
Kinda late tbh, they’re way to powerful than people think
Even tree get bigger than you, if it goes to big to mess with your house you have to cut it regularly to keep in check.
Holly Batman!
What do you mean?
Like giving all their data to Palantir and then having the CIA running psychological operations at unsuspected Europeans overseas?
I would buy you an ouzo if that was true!
and LinkedIn? not GDPR compliant, ever try to export your data and import to another platform in the last 2 years? not possible, LI actively blocking potential competitors
Will affect all platforms
Great, i am really encouraged by European law reform concerning technology. It is none too soon yet appears leaps and bounds ahead of the rest of the world, where arguably there has been surprisingly little done in this area of law reform in spite of the sweeping rate of accelerated change which has completely transformed the world. Seeing new laws like this created where previously there was a void is exciting and comforting and invites hope for the future in an ever more tech dominated world.
God bless EU
Anyone else getting tracers?
I thought it was the acid. Thanks.
@@anttihilja 🤣🤣🤣
3d
Should be titled “Europe vs. America” 🙄
The UK is following the EU on this!
Holly Batman!
By default the UK always had a more liberal approach to corporate interests so i doubt they would. Also Johnson would basicly shoot himself into the foot politcly speaking by orientating his policy proposals on EU blueprints.
Wrong, we should deregulate and make UK biggest Tax haven on planet earth to foster Singapore on Thames
Fines...they are so rich that they don't care...ban them from the EU if they don't follow the rules. They can easily earn more than the fine by not following the rules. Data is gold in our age.
Tech giant need to take more responsibility for small tech companies without any major interests. Need more guide to their expansion in any industries over night to acquire business & company.
those screen shots are horrific
Lol time to move my company
Tech giants have wayyy too much power !
Also dating site like tinder and others should be checked as well
yeah those shoes don't match the rest
0:43 are we watching parallel universes at once or what ?
While I agree with limiting their power, global economics means that they can just leave the european market altogether to a venue with less of a reputation for human rights, etc.
Which would leave a niche for potential rivals.
Get rid of them all together and find European solutions!!
We need a new Elon Musk.
Why mark family dont use FB or iG ! strange kk
Tec giants have a monopoly so you have to find more company to challenge them which would create more jobs
the DW correspondent Marina Strauss needs to learn to speak a little faster
Eu vs big tech ... Same team vs same team
So let me get this straight, everyone uses these services completely free of charge, but then people get mad when those service providers sell anonymous data to advertisers to make money? Really...?
"advertisers"
The value they get from your data is way more than the cost of the service to you. They use your data to develop algorithms and technologies. They are mining a territory that belongs to no one right now, it's primitive accumulation at its finest.
US' lack of response to massive growth of misinformation is pathetic and sad.
They use the likes of Google and Facebook to spy on people and spread misinformation of its own.
Well the Internet was mostly created by the Americans. So its not unfair that American companies dominate the Internet.
Does that just mean that the American digital products are just more appealing to the customers than Eu products?
Americans are more risk taking and quick to respond, develop and advance further.
@Null Pointer never ending cycle since the allies "won" WWII.
Good....
Did I mention "good"?
Way to go E. U. It makes the U. K look more attractive.
Nuuuu.... joking
My mother broke my door down and I fled to Spain ... when can the truth stand up?
IT freaks ...psychopathy ... let them chase
Hola John. Te invito a un cafetillo, si quieres.
Tech giants doing politics and politics going into tech is rarely a good sign. Lets hope one day decentralized systems with no one in power will be the way forward. Decentralized systems means politics/CEO/small group of people will stay out of control of such systems.
Well if a CEO makes an alternative to RUclips but better, that CEO should be in charge of their own service and as long as that CEO stays out of being political, things should be fine.
@@sucram1015 When so much power is aggreggated into one place where enormous knowledge and information is held and also a lot of computational power, people around it will know that they within their grasp of a lot of power that no human had before. Such people could be a CEO or a political figure such as in china, ar even a political dictator from EU. The other alternative is for technology to have as few central points of control as possible.
there is reason why the EU doesn't have tech giant.
Does the US have Tech giants or do tech giants have the US?
if eu wants to be independent, has to block one company as soon as possible. Because this company is gaining more and more power. And it has mechanism which can manipulate and destroy or promote selected companies. Such, for example manipulated opinions of users can lead to the destruction of company.
The content was leaked? Lol. That means the tech giants could lobby successfully....for changes in the law.
Powerful lobbies make businesses go well! Right? Lol. 😁
WARNING: dont watch this video if you are high
Good luck with that. I fully support Europe's goal of curbing American dominance in Europe in terms of advanced tech, but such action will have profound impact in EU-American relationship. US will not let EU have independent technologies that could start the fourth industrial revolution.
This is a terrible initiative, it will effectively make smaller companies unable to compete because they won't have the budget to build the systems to enforce these very strict state imposed censorship. Making PLATFORMS responsible for their customers SPEECH will make sure no one tries to build a competitor because EVERYONE will have a huge liability risk, only billionaire companies with enough cash for the best lawyers available or companies from outside Europe operating away from EU rules will risk being in this business
Remember, the telephone companies are not responsible for their users content and we wouldn't want uncountable PRIVATE interests to have state sanctioned, unilateral, final say in which customer they get to limit from their network. If a criminal uses the Telecom to communicate with their accomplices to commit a crime, we don't fine Telecom for not monitoring everyone so closely so they can detect a crime is being planned on their networks. We wouldn't want them to be the arbiters of who can use their services based on the content. We recognize access to a communication platform like a telephone like IS a human right.
You people are nuts for celebrating this!!
Long overdue.
EU needs to regulate its information industry just like auto industry. With current open border practice, EU will never have its own tech giants who can compete with Google, Facebook or Amazon in this information/digital age.
We would like to have tech giant but we dont dabble in the realm of corruption over here.
And it never will - always twenty years behind.
She was *glitching.*
Now there's a new way of pronouncing advent calendar... min 1:18
Sounds very paternalistic.
Without the USA puppy (UK), EU can move forward protecting its interests.
Not a peep about mass censorship? 🤔
Odd that Vestager didn't make it to Forbe's top 100 of the most powerful women. I guess Forbe's would like to ignore her existence 🤷🏻♂️
Yay go europe! Things would be so much better if we Just got rid of our national levels and made europe more transparant.
Who watches the watchers?
give those tech giants another valid pricing model to finance themselves. Would you pay 20$ per month for instagram? You can't just say it's illegal to collect my data for targeted ads and it's my legal right to use the platform for free
If this reigns in control of Big Tech here in the US, I welcome it. Technically, it has to. For example, even thought Apple, Google, Parler, and Amazon are American companies, if they can be accessed in Europe, their actions against Parler can be seen as hostile across every market it's accessible in. The actions Facebook and Twitter have taken against Republicans and conservatives as of late (I'm not just talking about Trump...think Ron Paul), not only does it control freedom of speech in America, those filters carry over to Europe. If that'll be illegal in Europe, they'll have to answer why people have more access to information in Europe than America.
Lol screw Google
So do the Irish Courts unfreeze the Tax money that's in dispute re Google
Irish and EU Citizen 🇮🇪🇪🇺
EU should have done it 20 years ago. But better be later than never.
They can’t do that. It’s literally going backwards.
Should do or go forward to Orwellian
Hahahahahah Regulation will increase competition. What a banana union
@@Maxet-hp8ws no and it never has. Competition is a dynamic process, even if Amazon for example becomes a monopoly (due to being better and cheaper btw), the moment it raises prices other entrepreneurs can start undercutting them. BUT if there is alot of regulation in place this is not possible, the small business will need teams of lawyers, accountants, extra employees just to follow regulation. There has almost never been any monopoly that wasn't due to government 'regulation'.
@@Maxet-hp8ws "Standard Oil did precisely the opposite of what monopoly theory maintains-it reduced rather than raised prices, it increased rather than cut production, it lost rather than “controlled” market share, and it paid its employees more rather than less than its competitors-yet the theory that Standard Oil engaged in “predatory practices” and “exploited” consumers has prevailed in our history books."
Unregulated markets allow anyone, even from other countries to compete with you. You win when you increase efficiency.
Am I the only one who sees holograms?
Good news! About time an effort was made to show them limits to their actions.
I still think though we need to break up our patent system in many ways. After China more or less has learned anything from us there is, it maybe a good aproach to start stealing a bit ourselves ^^. OpenSource principals could help saving a lot on development costs while making us also less vulnurable against theft as it is already free to use with the plead to have improvements reported back.
Insert western media's criticism of HK's NSL here
yea its a good thing to put these regulation but that bad side is huge and will backfire.
1. Big tech giant already past the stages of trying to get consumers therefore any upcoming company will have to follow this rule and breaking it will be a opportunity for the big tech to crush them as a way of saying "huhm if i have to follow the law then he has to too"
2. if the companies get fined the result will only end up on us, European consumers will have to pay the price.
3. Remember hate speech is an opinion not a fact doing this will even give them more power to sensor most information because the Eu can't say "hey google sensor this and not that" that wont happen.
You US tech/mil. people talk like you have made some kind of contract with God or something.
Why did you include are you sad that they crushed Nokia by competing with innovation and making a product people liked. Eu is becoming so antibusiness next Detroit
Just a new name for more censorship in blanket of protecting user's. EUSSR
3:04 - 3:40 ❤️
Gods Luck.
This “fair competition” crap will destroy EU’s already lacking technological competitiveness.
Just more EU protectionism. It's already left europe twenty years behind in tech and will ultimately lead to the continent being an also ran.
Trading technical advantage for securing democracy is a fair trade
Sorry but isn't a monopoly a big obstacle to progress
Facebook need to be broken
The Americans will sanction every legislator that voted for this bill.
US Army will fight for Freedem for EU people in EU.
i wipe my arse wit big tech my g
is the lady in red a hologram
DW clickbaited me
In other news, tech giants begin relocating to China
That’s not the story, though. Since China has huge population abt 1/5 of the world population, it has own giants. And, starting now, Chinese government also have same problems of the super powers, the new fines and rules is catching up to regulate it.
@h s since they broken the Chinese laws, provided the community for terrorist organizations, which killed many civilians in Xinjiang, and refused to negotiate with Chinese government.
The more you try to control us and our opinions the more we push you the bully back!
Then America should do things in kind. Ban Airbus, VW, Daimler.
US Army will fight for Freedem for EU people in EU.
they already do... check Nordstream 2 sanctions for example.
Just ban target advertisement
And pay hefty subscription?
Was this reqson why google was down world wide?
they admit they switched off the computer.
What is the opinion of the 97 members of the far-right in the german parliament ?