Can you do a specific video guide for working with BOTTLES on Steam Deck ? I know of at least one Steam Deck enthusiast YT content creator who would find that interesting and helpful.
I use Safing but sometimes it’s bad. When it updates it uses up all of my CPU and sometimes all of my RAM + SWAP memory too! And every single time it forcefully disconnects my WiFi when it updates WITHOUT asking me 😡😡
The best thing is that it's available as a flatpak. Installing Wine always required pulling a whole mess of dependencies and never uninstalled cleanly. No need to worry about that with flatpak.
If you install an application from a .deb file then uninstall it, and you want to remove its dependencies, open up a command terminal as root and type "apt autoremove".
@@youtube.user.1234 Good news for you: That will probably change with Gnome 4 as Themes get replaced by consistent styling options within the Desktop Environment
Wine is one insane project. And Bottles is doing something awesome for making it just a little more accessible. I can see it being a massive thing if they ever have an easy installer for something like Photoshop. That would be an insane achievement, with how complex that software suite is.
@@elmariachi5133 For GIMP there is PhotoGIMP which makes it as close to Photoshop as possible. I can't say Linux has anything truly as accessible as Illustrator or CorelDraw. It does seem like Bottles will ease my discarded efforts to game on Linux. DXVK has been an issue for my more ambitious endeavors.
@@ALulzyApprentice have you ever used GIMP? That software is so non-intuitive that no wonder people prefer to pay/hack an Adobe license instead of going through the trouble of learning it.
@@sharkuel It is not just about being non intuitive, but it does not perform close to how Photoshop and Affinity Photo are. Especially on larger files. And there is huge issue with compatibility. You really can not work in design industry and not being able to correctly open or create Photoshop files.
Little detail about Winrar : People use it to have compatibility with more efficient formats that ZIP but... They just don't know a much better application, open source exists lol : 7zip
I recently discovered bottles myself. And I'm. trying my best to use it to replace that one last windows program I need for work. Pain the backside just will not work right now. It's definitely a helpful tool and it's good to see a bit of coverage on it.
I've found that it's broken for FL Studio because it tries to capture the console output of the program (and FL Studio crashes when you gather console output under WINE too)
In the same boat with DVD authoring. DevedeNG just won't install on a lot of Linux OSes right now. Ironically, on the one PC I got to install it (Has Zorin OS 16.1), I also got Bottles to work to run .exe DVD authoring software. On the other hand, on two other PCs, that also have Zorin OS 16.1, no matter what I do, I can't get DevedeNG install but I also can't get Wine and Bottles to run .exe DVD authoring software either--they either won't install or they won't allow for the import of data. Same Zorin OS, but on different computers, totally different results.
Hey Nick, your videos have recently inspired me to switch from Windows to Fedora 36. It's been a great experience so far except for one application which I couldn't get to run properly on Linux. However, I managed to get it working using Bottles! Thank you so much for all the useful content you're sharing!
Bottles is amazing, yes! Especially the installers. I manage to consistently run Spore via Origin through Proton via Bottles with no issues, and that game isn't even stable on modern windows versions
Lutris (usually used for games) can also just be used for various programs as well. It allows you to just use all of the custom settings you want for each individual game, or application. It uses wine primarily. Bottles looks like a similar solution but with more of an emphasis on just software as oppose to gaming software.
@@switchhazel3517 Well under the hood they both use wine, but you might have more luck with lutris as its more mature and has more options to help configure wine with things like winetricks. I dont know much about bottles, never used it. You might also try finding some open source alternative for the steelseries software. Good luck!
Been wanting to try out bottles but haven't found a proper guide on how to do stuff, until now. Great vid as usual. Oh and btw, have you already switched to Fedora on your laptop?
@@weighedclock9045you can try either Fedora Silverblue or Kinoite. The difference between the two is that Silverblue uses GNOME while Kinoite uses KDE
Thanks, an overview like this was exactly what I needed. I knew roughly what Bottles could do from its own website, but not the details, and I'd been wondering what WINE prefixes were for. It's hard to dive into new tools when I'm already on a computer all day for work, so being able to relax and watch a video on this stuff instead is so nice.
Thanks for this! I just got through re-writing some of the playonlinux scripts/libraries because it would always install 32 bit Wine regardless of my selections.
Amazing stuff! I really appreciate the guide! After recently switching to Linux, I've been looking for a way to game with all my launchers, but struggled with Heroic & Lutris due to the lack of cloud saves. Now I'm glad I have this option.
Although the video is very informative, i heard that instantly. Couldn't help but laugh especially when he mentionned squeezing performance out of it. Don't get me wrong I'm french myself and probably would say it the same way, but it's still funny. :D
Running Dead Space and Dead Space 2 here, using Bottles on Zorin 16.1 Pro. Flawlessly and stable (175 fps). Same quality as running as on Windoze. Who looks, think it's running natively on Linux.
Kind of along the lines of this vid: The Windows 11 thing doesn't scare me a bit and for a couple reasons. The first is my laptop has Win 11 on it so I have no issues there. My other two machines won't run it and from what I understand, you'll always have a watermark on the screen and you'll have to manually install security updates if you do install it on legacy hardware. My primary machine is a T5500 w/ two x5690 CPUs, 146G of ECC ram, all SSD and a GTX 970 (which runs any games I care about just fine). It's a beast of a machine that I will not replace just because it won't run Win11. Linux has gotten a lot better in most all areas since I began using it 7+ yrs ago and giving that many users are going to jump from Win10 to Linux in 2025, I suspect it's going to become even better in the next 2.5 yrs as the Linux developers must know this is going to happen. If I really need Win11, I'll use my laptop or I'll just spin up a VM, so who cares about MS and their threats!! I sure as hell don't and I'm certainly not going to spend the $$ on a new build to compete with my present 5500 just so I can run Win11. Linux will do me just fine, plus it's just a better OS to deal with in the first place. I will say that Bottles needs to focus more on productivity apps than they do gaming.
I installed 0CC-FamiTracker with Bottles, and it works really well and I haven't run into any issues so far. Bottles is definitely a top tier Wine implementation.
Bottles is awesome, I just haven't got around to using it yet. Strangely, I haven't had a need to run a windows app in years :). I used to use a similar project on macOS called "wineskins" works exactly the same. The best way to deal with wine, in my opinion.
Dude I swear your camera quality is insane. RUclips automatically runs videos on 360p for some reason. When I click on your videos, I think it is on 1080p, then I check the settings and it's 360p. Man I love your camera quality.
@@TheLinuxEXP my brother used to sell Cameras, and he bad a bunch of Sony, Nikon, Canon and Fuji. The Sony Alpha always caught his interest. They're great. Merci pour ta reponse Mr. TLE :)
Just to clarify, PlayOnLinux/PlayOnMac is not dead, it just got picked up by another developer. The distro repos (apt etc) have the last version of the original team (4.x), but the flatpak installation contains the new implementation (version 5). Other than that, really good video and really interesting wine manager.
I'm just Falling in love with your Content,saw your old videos too and what a journey.Your Hard-work and consistency is Inspiring for me❤️ I recently watched your GNOME 42 showcase video and I wonder how do I install Vanilla GNOME OS on Virtual Box cause it just doesn't detect iso file as bootable image file,a little help or your thoughts would be appreciated :) Apart from that keep up the good work Sir Just love your work !
I've been using Bottles about 5 months or so and its been really good. I have had more luck with games using a Custom bottle though. That gaming bottle throws all types of stuff in there that might work for some games, but broke several ones I tried, which worked fine with a default Custom bottle. If you have problems getting an app to run with the App or Gaming bottles, try a Custom and only add what you need.
I had to use wine a lot during lockdown and it was great. Although some software like Ms access did not work meaning I needed to make a VM of windows. But it's getting better. :)
@@JonathanSteadman2003 Yes I understand... Microsoft office support is getting better on Linux. I am on Manjaro Gnome and I have successfully installed office 2016 and after adjusting the ppi to 140 on winecfg, I really can't tell any difference between using it on windows vs on Manjaro. I am very happy with it as of now
@@mr.mastermind4840 that's awesome. I know you can run fh5 on proton and it's like a new game that came out not too long ago. So the community is really trying to improve gaming and software support. :) But I now do stuff at college. So no problem anymore but like gaming with wine and proton. :)
At 6:50 you click on the gear icon and it tells you to load your exe file. When I do it nothing happens. I have no way of adding exe to my bottles :/ Can you please help?
There's a simple solution to the apps creating stuff in the home folder and sub folders, wine can just do a couple of symbolic links, one in the home folder leading to the emulated home folder and another in the emulated folder leading to the actual home folder, old apps will just create stuff in the emulated folder and new apps can just offer to save it in the actual home folder via a folder selection dialogue
I'm going to have to try this to run MS Office. That is the pretty much the only reason I still have a Window's boot partition. I still need it for some of my consulting work in updating and exchanging documents with folks who use Office. I have pretty much tried all Linux available office suites, and they all end up have one compatibility issue or another working on complex documents. I am not knocking these office suites --they work fantastic and more than meet my needs on Linux. But they still have minor little glitches that affect MS Office documents when you go round trip between platforms and suites.
Just wanted to say nice work on the video description, especially the warning about how running random stuff might still give potential viruses access to your home directory. Keep up the excellent work!!
Anymore, it's getting to where I don't need Windows. The only programs I might have some difficulty with are Photoshop, Logos, MediaMonkey and WinSCP. I'll have to try and see. I'm using Garuda Dragonized right now and have found it's a bit of a mess to manage. I'd like to move to something a little less geeky (meaning I don't have to manage dependencies so much from the command line). I wonder what would be best? Manjaro caught my eye, but there are so many great distros out right now.
I am thinking of switching to Linux in 2025 (you can guess why i think), especially Linux Mint, and i was struggeling to install all the launchers of my games. I tries Lutris, PlayOnLinux and Wine, but non of them was very user-friendly or easy to manage. But bottles saved my day and was the 100% perfect choice. Not only its easy to install software, the automated launcher scripts are fantastic. I love it. Only thing i want to see is better Easy Anti Cheat Support
Just the easy access to the registry for specific apps is already make it good. In fact, this feature should be implemented on windows. I remember the hassle of editing the registry from regedit for specific app, i have to manually search which one for the app i want to. Why don't windows just add this feature on the "uninstall a program" control panel so i can get into registry for specific app easily? I daily drive linux, but once in a while i have to deal with windows for work.
Wow. This is what I wanted before switching to Linux. A good opportunity to run all my windows apps on there. Seems like this will come true. When this is fully functional and easy to use, Windows will be part of the past
Everything I've tried to run on it hasn't worked, so on Lutris if with the same dependencies installed, I'm disappointed as I much prefer Bottles' interface.
YIFY..? Really Nick? I thought you cared about quality! Haha. Great video! I avoid running any Windows software on my Linux machine, but it's nice to know how easy it has become with Bottles. Also kudos to the Wine dev's for their years of hard work.
I'm not sure if it's the exact same, but I remember years ago trying to run wine on Mac OS X tiger and hearing about bottles. I didn't understand it at the time, because when you looked for wine for Mac OS X tiger it pointed you to bottles, but when you finally managed to track down an old version of bottles it then complained you didn't have wine installed. I'm guessing even if it wasn't maintained by the same dev it was probably a similar concept as you described and that wine probably would of needed to of been compiled from source through the home brew build stuff to run linux apps on apple.
i was thinking about switching to linux but what i mainly do on my computer is programming but i needed some windows program for it to work. Wine (and therefore bottle) are too tempting, i absolutely need to try them out and see if they work on a virtual machine. Only drawback i can think of is that if it doesn't work right off the bat i will need to look up one of those complex tutorials on how to fix it
I noticed this on "epic games store" but it probably applies to more applications. "Epic Games Store" can now be installed either via "wine" (eg in "bottles") or via "heroic game launcher" or via "Lutris". In addition, I suspect that some games will work better in one case and others in another case, and some will work better if they are installed separately via "lutris" instead of, for example, downloaded from the "epic games store" inside "lutris"
Can bottle run msi after burner under Linux? And what about Logitech software. Like for g29 wheel. Thanks. This so get force feed back under linux. For games that need it for ATS ( America truck sim ).
I like bottles, but for some reason the qemu thing for MS word works better for some apps. Why can't MS just give up and make a Linux window manager and a direct X and direct 3d library and a dll list that won't work in wine. Then they can do other things
Tried Bottle and it managed to run Age of Empires 4 on default settings (Lutris didn't). Overall, the software looks OK, has most features I'd expect from a modern Wine runner. Thanks for the advice!
Worth remember some obscure apps (like SAI) won't run some APIs that aren't even supported by wine for being so niche they weren't worth developing. So derived softwares like Crossover or (I assume, Bottles) may not work. This motivates me to give it a second shot instead of being annoyed at making a virtual machine just for it, though. Those containers are just great
We still need a "missing link" between Bottles/Wine and virtual machines, in order to run software and games not currently working on Wine/Proton because of limitations like anticheat.
Gotta give credit to the makers of Wine........as a noob I did not know what to expect. When ya hear 'emulation' (or in this case) a compatibility layer, ya think bugs, crashes, lag and things just not working properly. Im using Wine to run a Windows based NES emulator, to play games that I am extremely familiar with, so I'd notice even the tiniest inaccuracy. As many of you will expect, its literally like running the software 100% natively on Windows. Even more modern/sophisticated software, like a portable version of Photoshop runs totally fine. Wine is NOT some wonky emulator that Linux users are forced to tolerate I suspect the fact that it really isnt an emulator at all, is the reason it is so accurate. Im sure it has its limitations, but what a fantastic tool.
I have used Proton for some time now via Steam. Work splendidly. Never used Bottles... thanks for the info...installing it now to check it out. I've used PlayOnLinux (PoL) for years. Needed a solution for Text2Speech and Linux T2S stinks badly. I had an old purchased Windows 7 application for T2S and use PoL to use it on Linux. Works really well. I think it is amazing how far Wine has come over all these years...especially with the huge mess that is windows code.
i'll definitely change from windows to linux at some point in the near future , windows is getting too annoying to use ,updates are a pain and the only thing keeping me there at this point is word and some video editing apps for my own personnal use.With all that's happening lately on linux, all the available and worth your time open source apps it's just really interesting and channel like yours will 100% help on the switch from win to Linux.thanks for letting us discover these apps i never would have thought something like bottles existed (even though it makes sense it exists) cuz i just thought there was already proton and wine but bottles seems really good and easy to use.
Play On Linux is now in wired state I think. They announced that there will be "Play On Linux 5" which will changed name to "Phoenicis". They are still posting news on their website (but link to new website for "Phoenicis" seems to not work) (last one is about that the Microsoft is deleting old "dll" files from their website, posted 14 March 2022). And their website shows by default version 4.3.4 (on top of that version of their website which are translated to other languages are showing only translated news on main page, so these are outdated.
Thanks for telling us about Bottles as I've just been having a really hard time trying to get through the buggy PlayOnLinux user interface to try and install an old Windows program on my computer. I did get POL to work eventually but it was a hassle and very unintuitive.
I've done this myself for the longest time, just using the env vars. I tended to keep each game in it's own bottle(much like how steam is handling it) since many games need their own tweaks for things to work best.
Very informative vid! However, would be good to show the installation of a simple AND a heavy program in Bottles. All videos I've seen install lightweight software, when most users stumble upon problems with the heavier software. I installed Filmora 11 in Bottles. It works well up until the point you try to edit the speech-to-text subtitles, that are mapped out in the correct times. It uses 70-90% of the CPU and RAM goes to about 70%. It takes several seconds to delete and type a letter in the subs. How can I speed Filmora up? Should I install it as a Game, and not as an Application? How can I direct more PC resources to it?
Can you run a executible with a diffrent language system locale similar to locale emulator on Windows does Bottles have that option? For example if a game needs a specific system languge or the font will look like squares when you run it ? doing this via terminal is a hassle
I use Bottles for Meshmixer woks not only flawlessly, but even faster, letting me work with millions of triangles in less than a minute, while on windows I need to get water, take a walk, play with cat, answer emails, and maybe it's at 90%. Sadly my friend can't use Linux because it can't run Creo Parametric
Does anyone happen to know if you need some sort of dependency or mend some code in a DLL to allow for cloud connection? Been trying one application to connect to the internet/cloud so that it can download assets for the application off the web. Keep getting an error relating to the winnet.DLL saying the http connection failed.
Great content as always, Nick. I used Bottles to run Max Payne 2 on my Garuda Linux installation and it was fantastic. Bottles allowed me to set command line parameters to the executable without making a shortcut like in Windows. So far so good. I am really loving Linux a lot. Just wished I have a better and stable internet connection so that I can update packages without any problems. It's amusing that I prefer the way Linux updates the system compared to the BS of Windows 10.
This is great, but I hope the reverse can be done too. For example, I have Skyrim Special Edition on Steam/PC and use Vortex to manage hundreds of mods. One of the few things holding back my total switch to Linux is running Vortex as intended by the devs - inside the same environment as the game - in the Proton Steam Play environment.
Can I run games with proton without steam using this? As I understand, when you launch a game with proton, it gets the appid from steam and downloads the wine prefix for that specific game. So if I have a drm free copy of a game, can I find its steam appid and download its wine prefix?
The windows programs that I would like to run under bottles need to connect to the internet to do web analytics, from within that bottle. If I'm missing something please inform, but at this point, I'm unaware of a way to allow an app to connect to the internet running inside a bottle... It would be valuable to have another YT vid that showed how to do this if it's possible...It's alluding me at the moment.
Oh this is cool. Good explanation of Wine Nick, that's going to help a lot of new users. I've been using wine via cli to launch programs and manage prefixes, but this looks much more comfy. Not going to make me switch from Lutris for gaming, but for apps this looks awesome.
I tried so hard to get Bottles to run Adobe Acrobat Pro to edit PDFs. I tried 3 different Acrobat versions, and each one had its own Bottles problem. Didn't open, weird error, etc. I couldn't find any Bottles logs to understand what's going. I wish there was a DB/catalog of Bottles instruction guides per app. I gave up and installed a Windows VM
this really seems like fit my usecase better than lutris because the manual installation seems to be more intuitive than the latter. might actually try it some day.
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Can you do a specific video guide for working with BOTTLES on Steam Deck ? I know of at least one Steam Deck enthusiast YT content creator who would find that interesting and helpful.
So can I run .Net WPF apps yet?
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Is there a way to run feather client? It's a minecraft client released onky for windows at the moment
@@gitez6585 unfortunate
@@Matthew_MBG feather client sucks....
The best thing is that it's available as a flatpak. Installing Wine always required pulling a whole mess of dependencies and never uninstalled cleanly. No need to worry about that with flatpak.
Flatpaks are fine but sometimes it doesn’t follow dark theme and that’s annoying for me because I use dark mode everywhere possible :(
@@youtube.user.1234 you need to install the dark version of the theme you're using from flathub
If you install an application from a .deb file then uninstall it, and you want to remove its dependencies, open up a command terminal as root and type "apt autoremove".
I can't wait to see something like bottles for waydroid/anbox.
@@youtube.user.1234 Good news for you: That will probably change with Gnome 4 as Themes get replaced by consistent styling options within the Desktop Environment
Wine is one insane project. And Bottles is doing something awesome for making it just a little more accessible. I can see it being a massive thing if they ever have an easy installer for something like Photoshop. That would be an insane achievement, with how complex that software suite is.
Yeah, Photoshop and CorelDraw are the only things holding back from finally converting a friend's whole infrastructure from awful Windows to Linux.
@@elmariachi5133 For GIMP there is PhotoGIMP which makes it as close to Photoshop as possible. I can't say Linux has anything truly as accessible as Illustrator or CorelDraw.
It does seem like Bottles will ease my discarded efforts to game on Linux. DXVK has been an issue for my more ambitious endeavors.
@@ALulzyApprentice Did you try Lutris for games? The database of automated install scripts really makes it great for a huge lot of games.
@@ALulzyApprentice have you ever used GIMP? That software is so non-intuitive that no wonder people prefer to pay/hack an Adobe license instead of going through the trouble of learning it.
@@sharkuel It is not just about being non intuitive, but it does not perform close to how Photoshop and Affinity Photo are. Especially on larger files. And there is huge issue with compatibility. You really can not work in design industry and not being able to correctly open or create Photoshop files.
Little detail about Winrar : People use it to have compatibility with more efficient formats that ZIP but... They just don't know a much better application, open source exists lol : 7zip
Peazip is also on linux
There's no Linux 7zip version..
@@gepron1x p7zip
@@gepron1x Command line only. But you don't need it. Distributions have nice GUI tools that can use 7z format or rar or tar.xz.
@@JauStudioFR 7zip is in the ubuntu repository. Dumb noobs do not even know how to use aptitude to install apps. Lol.
I recently discovered bottles myself. And I'm. trying my best to use it to replace that one last windows program I need for work. Pain the backside just will not work right now. It's definitely a helpful tool and it's good to see a bit of coverage on it.
I've found that it's broken for FL Studio because it tries to capture the console output of the program (and FL Studio crashes when you gather console output under WINE too)
In the same boat with DVD authoring. DevedeNG just won't install on a lot of Linux OSes right now. Ironically, on the one PC I got to install it (Has Zorin OS 16.1), I also got Bottles to work to run .exe DVD authoring software. On the other hand, on two other PCs, that also have Zorin OS 16.1, no matter what I do, I can't get DevedeNG install but I also can't get Wine and Bottles to run .exe DVD authoring software either--they either won't install or they won't allow for the import of data. Same Zorin OS, but on different computers, totally different results.
He keeps sounding like he says "butt holes" and it's making this video much funnier than it should be. I need to grow up.
13:18 🤣🤣🤣
I love this video. You've gotten a ton better, man. Keep up the good work, and thank you.
Thanks;)
Hey Nick, your videos have recently inspired me to switch from Windows to Fedora 36. It's been a great experience so far except for one application which I couldn't get to run properly on Linux. However, I managed to get it working using Bottles! Thank you so much for all the useful content you're sharing!
Bottles is amazing, yes! Especially the installers. I manage to consistently run Spore via Origin through Proton via Bottles with no issues, and that game isn't even stable on modern windows versions
Bottles should be installed by default in all Linux distros
I think the main drwaback is the size of each bottle and with many apps the total desk usage will increase
Hopefully it will work like Flatpak, one library is shared between multiple apps (no duplication).
@@themedlebthat's dependant on if the devs make the flatpak that way though.
still gonna blame windows for that, dang bloater lol
Lutris (usually used for games) can also just be used for various programs as well. It allows you to just use all of the custom settings you want for each individual game, or application. It uses wine primarily. Bottles looks like a similar solution but with more of an emphasis on just software as oppose to gaming software.
Lutris doesn't work well with Flatpaks, it is still in Beta rn
So would Lutris work better for steelseries software? Because bottles didn't work for me.
@@switchhazel3517 Well under the hood they both use wine, but you might have more luck with lutris as its more mature and has more options to help configure wine with things like winetricks. I dont know much about bottles, never used it. You might also try finding some open source alternative for the steelseries software. Good luck!
@@nikolaos9175 Thanks!
Been wanting to try out bottles but haven't found a proper guide on how to do stuff, until now. Great vid as usual. Oh and btw, have you already switched to Fedora on your laptop?
Yep! It's on the 36 beta, I'm loving it so far!
@@TheLinuxEXP i love windows,macos and linux
What version of Linux would you recommend for a 2012 MacBook Pro 8gb ram and a i5 and 3gb of video memory
Bottles has a complete website with all sorts of tutorials.
@@weighedclock9045you can try either Fedora Silverblue or Kinoite. The difference between the two is that Silverblue uses GNOME while Kinoite uses KDE
Recursive acronyms are something I miss about earlier times in Linux.
Is used to think it was cringe but now I miss the dorky sincerity.
Thanks, an overview like this was exactly what I needed. I knew roughly what Bottles could do from its own website, but not the details, and I'd been wondering what WINE prefixes were for. It's hard to dive into new tools when I'm already on a computer all day for work, so being able to relax and watch a video on this stuff instead is so nice.
Thanks for this! I just got through re-writing some of the playonlinux scripts/libraries because it would always install 32 bit Wine regardless of my selections.
Awesome!
Community efforts are the best. Thanks a LOT for contributing!
Bottles is amazing, even the developer is super cool 😎
Absolutely!
Amazing stuff! I really appreciate the guide! After recently switching to Linux, I've been looking for a way to game with all my launchers, but struggled with Heroic & Lutris due to the lack of cloud saves. Now I'm glad I have this option.
The best review of "Bottles" so far! Thanks Nick!
I am going to start using Nick's pronunciation of bottles now. Buttholes, classic.
Although the video is very informative, i heard that instantly. Couldn't help but laugh especially when he mentionned squeezing performance out of it.
Don't get me wrong I'm french myself and probably would say it the same way, but it's still funny. :D
This is fantastic! I'm glad you told me about this. its been a long time coming with a trail of tears paving the way for us.
Running Dead Space and Dead Space 2 here, using Bottles on Zorin 16.1 Pro.
Flawlessly and stable (175 fps).
Same quality as running as on Windoze.
Who looks, think it's running natively on Linux.
Kind of along the lines of this vid: The Windows 11 thing doesn't scare me a bit and for a couple reasons. The first is my laptop has Win 11 on it so I have no issues there. My other two machines won't run it and from what I understand, you'll always have a watermark on the screen and you'll have to manually install security updates if you do install it on legacy hardware. My primary machine is a T5500 w/ two x5690 CPUs, 146G of ECC ram, all SSD and a GTX 970 (which runs any games I care about just fine). It's a beast of a machine that I will not replace just because it won't run Win11. Linux has gotten a lot better in most all areas since I began using it 7+ yrs ago and giving that many users are going to jump from Win10 to Linux in 2025, I suspect it's going to become even better in the next 2.5 yrs as the Linux developers must know this is going to happen. If I really need Win11, I'll use my laptop or I'll just spin up a VM, so who cares about MS and their threats!! I sure as hell don't and I'm certainly not going to spend the $$ on a new build to compete with my present 5500 just so I can run Win11. Linux will do me just fine, plus it's just a better OS to deal with in the first place. I will say that Bottles needs to focus more on productivity apps than they do gaming.
My correction: 144 ram, not 146
I installed 0CC-FamiTracker with Bottles, and it works really well and I haven't run into any issues so far. Bottles is definitely a top tier Wine implementation.
Bottles is awesome, I just haven't got around to using it yet. Strangely, I haven't had a need to run a windows app in years :). I used to use a similar project on macOS called "wineskins" works exactly the same. The best way to deal with wine, in my opinion.
Dude I swear your camera quality is insane. RUclips automatically runs videos on 360p for some reason. When I click on your videos, I think it is on 1080p, then I check the settings and it's 360p. Man I love your camera quality.
Thanks! It's a basic Sony alpha 6600, but it works well!
@@TheLinuxEXP my brother used to sell Cameras, and he bad a bunch of Sony, Nikon, Canon and Fuji. The Sony Alpha always caught his interest. They're great. Merci pour ta reponse Mr. TLE :)
Whoa! bottles is simple and easy to use!
Oh yeah!
Just to clarify, PlayOnLinux/PlayOnMac is not dead, it just got picked up by another developer. The distro repos (apt etc) have the last version of the original team (4.x), but the flatpak installation contains the new implementation (version 5).
Other than that, really good video and really interesting wine manager.
Hello everyone! I’m usually earlier than this, but I’m still going to comment about how great these videos are. Thanks Nick for the great content!
You're welcome, thanks for watching :)
I'm just Falling in love with your Content,saw your old videos too and what a journey.Your Hard-work and consistency is Inspiring for me❤️
I recently watched your GNOME 42 showcase video and I wonder how do I install Vanilla GNOME OS on Virtual Box cause it just doesn't detect iso file as bootable image file,a little help or your thoughts would be appreciated :)
Apart from that keep up the good work Sir
Just love your work !
Thanks! It's been quite a journey, yeah!
I've been using Bottles about 5 months or so and its been really good. I have had more luck with games using a Custom bottle though. That gaming bottle throws all types of stuff in there that might work for some games, but broke several ones I tried, which worked fine with a default Custom bottle. If you have problems getting an app to run with the App or Gaming bottles, try a Custom and only add what you need.
I had to use wine a lot during lockdown and it was great. Although some software like Ms access did not work meaning I needed to make a VM of windows. But it's getting better. :)
I am not sure but you can check office 2013. I think Access is working
@@mr.mastermind4840 I needed the latest access tried it a long time ago but did not work. So I just use windows on a cheap sdd with 250 GB.
@@JonathanSteadman2003 Yes I understand... Microsoft office support is getting better on Linux. I am on Manjaro Gnome and I have successfully installed office 2016 and after adjusting the ppi to 140 on winecfg, I really can't tell any difference between using it on windows vs on Manjaro. I am very happy with it as of now
@@mr.mastermind4840 that's awesome. I know you can run fh5 on proton and it's like a new game that came out not too long ago. So the community is really trying to improve gaming and software support. :) But I now do stuff at college. So no problem anymore but like gaming with wine and proton. :)
It's really.nice to see support like this. Thank you for sharing
recently discovered Bottles too, it's SO GREAT that i'm running out of windows apps to run with it !
pouring water from a bottle onto a computer to download windows apps
At 6:50 you click on the gear icon and it tells you to load your exe file. When I do it nothing happens. I have no way of adding exe to my bottles :/ Can you please help?
I can't wait to see something like bottles for waydroid/anbox.
Waydroid support already planned
@@bottlesdevs Awesome, I hope it can be implemented
There's a simple solution to the apps creating stuff in the home folder and sub folders, wine can just do a couple of symbolic links, one in the home folder leading to the emulated home folder and another in the emulated folder leading to the actual home folder, old apps will just create stuff in the emulated folder and new apps can just offer to save it in the actual home folder via a folder selection dialogue
I'm going to have to try this to run MS Office. That is the pretty much the only reason I still have a Window's boot partition. I still need it for some of my consulting work in updating and exchanging documents with folks who use Office. I have pretty much tried all Linux available office suites, and they all end up have one compatibility issue or another working on complex documents. I am not knocking these office suites --they work fantastic and more than meet my needs on Linux. But they still have minor little glitches that affect MS Office documents when you go round trip between platforms and suites.
Just wanted to say nice work on the video description, especially the warning about how running random stuff might still give potential viruses access to your home directory. Keep up the excellent work!!
What kind of random stuff are you talking about?
something i dont understand about bottles, wine make you vulnerable to malware, does the same happens with bottles?
That "Bottle" of "MERLOT" "WINE" is really funny!
Lol is he saying bottle as butthole an purpose? If so then the joke at 10:42 was smooth af
thanks for all your work on this videos, are amazing
Anymore, it's getting to where I don't need Windows. The only programs I might have some difficulty with are Photoshop, Logos, MediaMonkey and WinSCP. I'll have to try and see. I'm using Garuda Dragonized right now and have found it's a bit of a mess to manage. I'd like to move to something a little less geeky (meaning I don't have to manage dependencies so much from the command line). I wonder what would be best? Manjaro caught my eye, but there are so many great distros out right now.
I am thinking of switching to Linux in 2025 (you can guess why i think), especially Linux Mint, and i was struggeling to install all the launchers of my games. I tries Lutris, PlayOnLinux and Wine, but non of them was very user-friendly or easy to manage. But bottles saved my day and was the 100% perfect choice. Not only its easy to install software, the automated launcher scripts are fantastic. I love it. Only thing i want to see is better Easy Anti Cheat Support
Just the easy access to the registry for specific apps is already make it good. In fact, this feature should be implemented on windows. I remember the hassle of editing the registry from regedit for specific app, i have to manually search which one for the app i want to. Why don't windows just add this feature on the "uninstall a program" control panel so i can get into registry for specific app easily? I daily drive linux, but once in a while i have to deal with windows for work.
Wow. This is what I wanted before switching to Linux. A good opportunity to run all my windows apps on there. Seems like this will come true. When this is fully functional and easy to use, Windows will be part of the past
Bottles is that one thing that everyone talks about yet no one knows how it works lol.
That's why this video is there :)
Everything I've tried to run on it hasn't worked, so on Lutris if with the same dependencies installed, I'm disappointed as I much prefer Bottles' interface.
YIFY..? Really Nick? I thought you cared about quality! Haha.
Great video! I avoid running any Windows software on my Linux machine, but it's nice to know how easy it has become with Bottles. Also kudos to the Wine dev's for their years of hard work.
I'm not sure if it's the exact same, but I remember years ago trying to run wine on Mac OS X tiger and hearing about bottles. I didn't understand it at the time, because when you looked for wine for Mac OS X tiger it pointed you to bottles, but when you finally managed to track down an old version of bottles it then complained you didn't have wine installed. I'm guessing even if it wasn't maintained by the same dev it was probably a similar concept as you described and that wine probably would of needed to of been compiled from source through the home brew build stuff to run linux apps on apple.
You're doing a great job of convincing me that I could jump ship to Linux with the and you're other videos of late. Great video.
Hey there Nick,
Could you please do a Waydroid tutorial in detail for fedora?
Maybe in the future, yeah !
Second that!
Feel happy to donate to such a nice program
5:12 This file explorer looks nice! What's the theme?
Adwaita dark !
i was thinking about switching to linux but what i mainly do on my computer is programming but i needed some windows program for it to work. Wine (and therefore bottle) are too tempting, i absolutely need to try them out and see if they work on a virtual machine. Only drawback i can think of is that if it doesn't work right off the bat i will need to look up one of those complex tutorials on how to fix it
I noticed this on "epic games store" but it probably applies to more applications.
"Epic Games Store" can now be installed either via "wine" (eg in "bottles") or via "heroic game launcher" or via "Lutris". In addition, I suspect that some games will work better in one case and others in another case, and some will work better if they are installed separately via "lutris" instead of, for example, downloaded from the "epic games store" inside "lutris"
Does" Bottles" install the sometimes necessary NET framework, when installing the program?
It broke for MS Teams for me, but that's almost definitely a Teams issue
Can bottle run msi after burner under Linux? And what about Logitech software. Like for g29 wheel.
Thanks. This so get force feed back under linux. For games that need it for ATS ( America truck sim ).
I like bottles, but for some reason the qemu thing for MS word works better for some apps. Why can't MS just give up and make a Linux window manager and a direct X and direct 3d library and a dll list that won't work in wine. Then they can do other things
Finally a way to use WINE that an idiot can use. You wouldn't believe how much this helped me. It's the only reason I didn't switch back to Windows.
Tried Bottle and it managed to run Age of Empires 4 on default settings (Lutris didn't). Overall, the software looks OK, has most features I'd expect from a modern Wine runner. Thanks for the advice!
Worth remember some obscure apps (like SAI) won't run some APIs that aren't even supported by wine for being so niche they weren't worth developing. So derived softwares like Crossover or (I assume, Bottles) may not work.
This motivates me to give it a second shot instead of being annoyed at making a virtual machine just for it, though. Those containers are just great
bro french people saying bottles cracks me up every time
One day in the office: "Names? Yeah we can make these recursive, too."
every day I get closer and closer to pulling the trigger on fully moving to linux on my Desktop
We still need a "missing link" between Bottles/Wine and virtual machines, in order to run software and games not currently working on Wine/Proton because of limitations like anticheat.
Gotta give credit to the makers of Wine........as a noob I did not know what to expect. When ya hear 'emulation' (or in this case) a compatibility layer, ya think bugs, crashes, lag and things just not working properly. Im using Wine to run a Windows based NES emulator, to play games that I am extremely familiar with, so I'd notice even the tiniest inaccuracy. As many of you will expect, its literally like running the software 100% natively on Windows. Even more modern/sophisticated software, like a portable version of Photoshop runs totally fine. Wine is NOT some wonky emulator that Linux users are forced to tolerate I suspect the fact that it really isnt an emulator at all, is the reason it is so accurate. Im sure it has its limitations, but what a fantastic tool.
I have used Proton for some time now via Steam. Work splendidly.
Never used Bottles... thanks for the info...installing it now to check it out.
I've used PlayOnLinux (PoL) for years. Needed a solution for Text2Speech and Linux T2S stinks badly. I had an old purchased Windows 7 application for T2S and use PoL to use it on Linux. Works really well. I think it is amazing how far Wine has come over all these years...especially with the huge mess that is windows code.
i'll definitely change from windows to linux at some point in the near future , windows is getting too annoying to use ,updates are a pain and the only thing keeping me there at this point is word and some video editing apps for my own personnal use.With all that's happening lately on linux, all the available and worth your time open source apps it's just really interesting and channel like yours will 100% help on the switch from win to Linux.thanks for letting us discover these apps i never would have thought something like bottles existed (even though it makes sense it exists) cuz i just thought there was already proton and wine but bottles seems really good and easy to use.
Thx Nick from the bottom of my heart !
That saves me a lot of headache
You're welcome ;)
Play On Linux is now in wired state I think. They announced that there will be "Play On Linux 5" which will changed name to "Phoenicis". They are still posting news on their website (but link to new website for "Phoenicis" seems to not work) (last one is about that the Microsoft is deleting old "dll" files from their website, posted 14 March 2022). And their website shows by default version 4.3.4 (on top of that version of their website which are translated to other languages are showing only translated news on main page, so these are outdated.
Your channel is of public utility. THANK YOU ^^
Thanks for telling us about Bottles as I've just been having a really hard time trying to get through the buggy PlayOnLinux user interface to try and install an old Windows program on my computer. I did get POL to work eventually but it was a hassle and very unintuitive.
I've done this myself for the longest time, just using the env vars. I tended to keep each game in it's own bottle(much like how steam is handling it) since many games need their own tweaks for things to work best.
Very informative vid! However, would be good to show the installation of a simple AND a heavy program in Bottles. All videos I've seen install lightweight software, when most users stumble upon problems with the heavier software.
I installed Filmora 11 in Bottles. It works well up until the point you try to edit the speech-to-text subtitles, that are mapped out in the correct times. It uses 70-90% of the CPU and RAM goes to about 70%. It takes several seconds to delete and type a letter in the subs. How can I speed Filmora up? Should I install it as a Game, and not as an Application? How can I direct more PC resources to it?
Can I install solid works, autocad, inventor, Fusion 360 (and another Auto desk application) in Bottles or wine?
I giggled every time you said bottle, it sounded to me like you were saying buttholes.
Can you run a executible with a diffrent language system locale similar to locale emulator on Windows does Bottles have that option? For example if a game needs a specific system languge or the font will look like squares when you run it ? doing this via terminal is a hassle
I use Bottles for Meshmixer woks not only flawlessly, but even faster, letting me work with millions of triangles in less than a minute, while on windows I need to get water, take a walk, play with cat, answer emails, and maybe it's at 90%. Sadly my friend can't use Linux because it can't run Creo Parametric
Does anyone happen to know if you need some sort of dependency or mend some code in a DLL to allow for cloud connection? Been trying one application to connect to the internet/cloud so that it can download assets for the application off the web. Keep getting an error relating to the winnet.DLL saying the http connection failed.
Not only Linux has recursive acronyms. VISA for example stands for Visa International Service Associations.
man your outro music is epic
I love how the location for this video is "Brest"
Great content as always, Nick. I used Bottles to run Max Payne 2 on my Garuda Linux installation and it was fantastic. Bottles allowed me to set command line parameters to the executable without making a shortcut like in Windows.
So far so good. I am really loving Linux a lot. Just wished I have a better and stable internet connection so that I can update packages without any problems. It's amusing that I prefer the way Linux updates the system compared to the BS of Windows 10.
This is great, but I hope the reverse can be done too. For example, I have Skyrim Special Edition on Steam/PC and use Vortex to manage hundreds of mods. One of the few things holding back my total switch to Linux is running Vortex as intended by the devs - inside the same environment as the game - in the Proton Steam Play environment.
I really love your videos
Nice tutorial.. Finally i have three courage to try win apps on linux
Can I run games with proton without steam using this? As I understand, when you launch a game with proton, it gets the appid from steam and downloads the wine prefix for that specific game. So if I have a drm free copy of a game, can I find its steam appid and download its wine prefix?
The windows programs that I would like to run under bottles need to connect to the internet to do web analytics, from within that bottle. If I'm missing something please inform, but at this point, I'm unaware of a way to allow an app to connect to the internet running inside a bottle... It would be valuable to have another YT vid that showed how to do this if it's possible...It's alluding me at the moment.
Thanks for this video instruction. I have Bottles downloaded but until now was confused as how to use it.
Hmm, sounds very interesting. I have one problem though, I don't know any windows programs I need to run on Linux.
i run create new bottle, but never does a bottle appear?
I'll have to give this a go on Fedora, usability improvements to Linux are getting so good these days.
Oh this is cool. Good explanation of Wine Nick, that's going to help a lot of new users. I've been using wine via cli to launch programs and manage prefixes, but this looks much more comfy. Not going to make me switch from Lutris for gaming, but for apps this looks awesome.
11:25 nice firefox theme. Where can I get it?
I tried so hard to get Bottles to run Adobe Acrobat Pro to edit PDFs. I tried 3 different Acrobat versions, and each one had its own Bottles problem. Didn't open, weird error, etc. I couldn't find any Bottles logs to understand what's going. I wish there was a DB/catalog of Bottles instruction guides per app. I gave up and installed a Windows VM
this really seems like fit my usecase better than lutris because the manual installation seems to be more intuitive than the latter. might actually try it some day.