Instead of using logo in your prompts, try "identification symbol". Also at the end of the prompt use " -- no text". You will get logos with far less text in comparison to the word "logo".
The "--no text" prompt doesn't seem to work in MJ Version 4 unfortunately. I tried multiple times and couldn't get it to negative out the text. However, negative weights do seem to do ok. Add "Text::-1" inside the prompt was much more effective than "--no text"
I think AI for those business owners that aren’t artists… will be a great tool for them to lay out ideas quickly, but none of these examples in the video are really a “logo” to me. More so just clean illustrations. Logo and business branding need an actual human eye to make it right for each individual project. Concept art? AI is already taking over that area of expertise, any other Avenue or graphic design? I think AI has a ways to go before it’s any where near the quality of a professional graphic designer.
If it's just an inspiration we're looking for, there's big damn world out there to get that from. And if the user is a non-designer, then editing this one to make it usable is another heck of a task.
If only we could get layered output from these AI tools, now that would be a total game changer. Being able to export from MidJourney (et al) as an eps or similar would allow you to edit easily and quickly. I'm sure this will happen fairly soon 🤞
The thing I've been playing around with is ask for things like “flat vector wolfman” to create the graphic mark. Then combine with text to create the full logo. since virtually all logos it creates are “square” or circular.
Another thing I'm thinking was inspired by a tattoo design prompt. Especially “tribal tattoo design” gives you a super clean black and white image which should make an Illustrator Image Trace easy.
To all the people thinking of 'making logos' this way, please don't. I'm sure MidJourney is great for coming up with ideas, but they're just that... ideas. The resolution of your created .jpeg logo is way too small to be used commercially, especially at a print DPI of 300. You would have to create the logo in MidJourney and vector the logo yourself inside of Illustrator so that the vector can be resized and adjusted. In the future, if MidJourney spits out true .SVG files, then I'd be curious.
someone who finally gets it lol. i cringed when he stretched out the logo to fit the box in canva lmao. That, and the logos generated with ai look so generic they're easily forgettable and wouldn't be competitive in the real world. I never understood why someone would start a company/business if they can't even afford to hire an actual designer to make a proper logo lol
First of all, after getting the logo, you use ai upscaler to bring resolution up without losing quality. Then you take Ilustrator and turn it to vectors. Save as SVG and you have professional looking vector logo. Voila.
What do you do to make sure that these AI logos are highly derivative of an already established trademark? Do you still do the normal pet search? Or is there a way through mid journey to make sure that it’s not exactly the same or extremely close to something else?
Amazing video Matt, thanks! Just a quick discord shortcut that mayt help, UP ARROW brings to your chat box your last message, then you dont have to copy paste :)
Dude, everything depends on how you sell and what you sell. I have bought various types of content and studied them, especially ebooks in PDF format on the internet. There was one that had several prompts that I sold or used as examples, and I also used the prompts to create images and sell them on stock image sites for companies in my city to print on shirts. I also do online stuff like print on demand and I can make around $800 to $1260 a week by combining everything. Sometimes it's only per month (unfortunately). I can help anyone who wants to learn.
"He's not that good with full words, but he's dang good with a single letter." Had no idea we would be talking about me in the 1st grade in this video.
The interface on my computer is totally different from yours, for instance, I don't have a right column, so I can't find the midjourney bot. Can someone please help me!
Very helpful video, liked and subscribed. I can't be the only one who laughed at this "The 28 favorite tools I play with myself".. 🤣 Thanks for the video brother!
If you are making little graphics for a local 'Mom & Pop' business fine. But be careful handing over generic looking AI generated stuff to a larger business. First of all you will need a quality vector conversion, nobody can use PNG logos professionally. Auto-trace won't cut it as is leaves hundreds of messy anchor points, others working with your files will notice this and it screams amateur, that would be unacceptable to a client in the know. Also in general logo marks/brand assets need to be copyrightable and if the AI is pulling ideas from everywhere you should check for similarity in the same industry. At the moment in the US copyright can be obtained if the final works is not exactly the same as the AI generated result and it needs to be altered. But this is still not clear in terms of branding and logos. My advice, use these for inspiration and a variety of ideas then redraw your own versions. But regardless, great demo and proof of concept.
Bro, your my go to for all things AI. You have opened up a whole new world. Just watching you in a few days, I've created ai art for my other RUclips channels (banners and profile pic), Instagram pics and some cool animations. Thx so much. Your videos are straight forward and easy to follow. Keep up the great work. Peace from Australia ✌
Creating a logo that way will result in you having trouble later if you need a vector or a big print though. It's great for inspiration but to really get full power you need to retrace it in illustrator (or any other vector tool)
My thought exactly. Great for concept generation, but you would never (or should never) be using these as final deliverables in a project or for your business.
im so glad somebody said this , i love some of the designs that ai can create but not being able to make it as a vector iis asking for trouble and problems down the line - overall that makes this video worthless
I used Blue Willow as a MJ alternative. Blue Willow is a free tool and I satisfied to use it and Blue Willow recently launched V2 with a brand new model upgrade. Now I got better-quality images with more aesthetic outputs
Thank you for this great vid!! Could you please drag the bottom part of the video up so that the most important information is not obscured by the RUclips controls?
You ROCK, Matt! I am so grateful I was guided to your RUclips Channel. Please keep these AMAZING tutorials coming our way. Peace & Blessings from Los Angeles.🙏🏿
Hey, great video, thanks! 🙂 I don't have that sidebar with the midjourney Bot Icon, which you added to your server. How can I make it appearing? Thanks for help
Thanks man ! i was checking this on Playground AI, but it seems like Midjourney does it better ! now we only need to have this in vector format to start charging client !
Logo design or brand design is a thoughtful process of analysis, research, development, testing and technical skills that cannot be ever done by AI. These designs you've done work good as illustrations and they certainly look good, but they are nothing else than that. A brand design must meet a different criteria than just look "full of details, colors and shapes and figures and shadows". A logo design is the solving of a problem with strategy and real world application knowledge. for example you said in a comment that this is easily scalable, just up scale it and down scale it. Well that's one of the basics of what NOT to do to a logo if it doesn't meet the technical criteria. A logo that is complex can only be complex at a certain size, a complex logo must be simplified by steps in order to be down scaled and that simplification will vary depending on the size AND media. What i'm saying is that these designs are too far away from being a functionaly working brand but they will surely look good as illustration symbols. Don't ever confuse logo / brand with illustraitions. For example Nike, Apple, Shell, Coca Cola, etc are logos / brands, but the design of a coin "face of a person with numbers and lots of details" are closer to what you've designed here and are more destined to work as symbolic illustrations than work as logos. Please don't get me wrong, I think the designs shown here look great for something done by just typing words, but they shouldn't be labeled as logos because they are not. Sorry if my comment seeems harsh, didn't mean to be irritating, just that I've worked on redesigning a lot of brands that had "logos" like this before and those people "didn't know" why their brand wasn't working. If anyone here wants an advice, If you take your project seriously and want to take it to the real world please look for a professional designer to create your brand / logo and you won't regret.
Well said. But most that jump on the AI train will not or won’t understand what’s your statement. We will see TONS of cheap designs like these ones in 2023 … and then people wich focus ob quality will do it exactly as we do it today … professional and not this Mickey Mouse bullshit. First trap they all run into: all that generated stuff is just pixels. If the client want that on a truck, building or billboard these AI guys are all screwed.
You sir, are a light in the dark in these comments. I was thinking the same thing about these "logos." I think this tool will have a certain place in graphic design in the future for concepting and sketching but by no means is it delivering the same product that a professional would. I see many comments asking why these won't export in vector or why the text isn't reading properly. It's very eye opening to see that most don't want to use this to concept and start a project, they want to use it to finish a project. At the current state of these AI programs that's just not possible.
@@Bones-1L35 I get what you and @Sergio meant. Of course the job delivered by a professional is better, but the gap is noticeably closing. If AI is doing this level of detail now, how long do you think it will take until it does export a graphics vector? Plus, for example, I needed a quick logo to set up a Shopify store, and what the AI provided, I upscaled with another AI, and it more than capable of meeting the very low requirements of that use case.
Beware, any Ai produce by law recognised as public domain worldwide, so where it can used if can be copied by anyone legally. No commercial perspectives.
When you say these are neat logo designs concepts, I’m like (facepalm)🤦♂️ It’s trying to be good, it has potential but, i can make more creative ideas faster with pan and paper then trying to prompt and guess with this unpredictable results. This tool is definitely build by programmers for programmers. With all this prompt/codings. I hope that designers will jump sooner to this AI UX, and create actually usable tools. I believe the future is to make a tool that can render your ideas, not render just something…
the fact that Canva doesn't have an eraser/brush tool blows my mind. I literally pay for Photoshop just for that one option even though I like working in Canva more since it's easier
I had no idea that it was possible to create a LOGO with AI. This is amazing, such top tier content ! What are your thoughts on BlueWillow ? Can I use it in this process?
Instead of using logo in your prompts, try "identification symbol". Also at the end of the prompt use " -- no text". You will get logos with far less text in comparison to the word "logo".
The "--no text" prompt doesn't seem to work in MJ Version 4 unfortunately. I tried multiple times and couldn't get it to negative out the text. However, negative weights do seem to do ok. Add "Text::-1" inside the prompt was much more effective than "--no text"
@@mreflow can you elaborate on this, I am a newbie and I’m trying to learn.
@@mreflow Try --no text, lettering, watermark it works pretty consistently.
After one month -no text still doesn’t work
I just made a logo for my company with the help of this video, thank you so much for the step by step tutorial, I will always remember this video
😂😂😂😂😂
I think AI for those business owners that aren’t artists… will be a great tool for them to lay out ideas quickly, but none of these examples in the video are really a “logo” to me. More so just clean illustrations. Logo and business branding need an actual human eye to make it right for each individual project. Concept art? AI is already taking over that area of expertise, any other Avenue or graphic design? I think AI has a ways to go before it’s any where near the quality of a professional graphic designer.
If it's just an inspiration we're looking for, there's big damn world out there to get that from. And if the user is a non-designer, then editing this one to make it usable is another heck of a task.
If only we could get layered output from these AI tools, now that would be a total game changer. Being able to export from MidJourney (et al) as an eps or similar would allow you to edit easily and quickly. I'm sure this will happen fairly soon 🤞
Thanks, that's what I wondering, not having used MidJourney yet. It would be great if we could get this as a layered output.
yeah just trace it it will be goooood and simple
You can sometimes use depth mapping to auto trace
@@Pepe_LeMac super helpful thanks 👍
Adobe just got a trailer with text to vector
fantastic! instead of “established” at the top of your coffee logo you could put
“Howlin’ since” and for the futuretools one maybe “nailin’ since”
Hi Matt, if you're dealing with words, try to play around with etc. it can actually bring quite accurate results.
Awesome! I'll mess around with that some more. Thanks!
Such a mess with the letters, why is this happening? Do you know of another app that works?
@@georgetsampas Sure. Adobe Illustrator 😀
@@obey24com Not the same and btw your hack not working
You quickly became one of my favorite ai-channels!
Excellent tip to set up your own discord server so you can easily keep track of pictures rendered.
The thing I've been playing around with is ask for things like “flat vector wolfman” to create the graphic mark. Then combine with text to create the full logo. since virtually all logos it creates are “square” or circular.
Another thing I'm thinking was inspired by a tattoo design prompt. Especially “tribal tattoo design” gives you a super clean black and white image which should make an Illustrator Image Trace easy.
Great tips! Thanks!
To all the people thinking of 'making logos' this way, please don't. I'm sure MidJourney is great for coming up with ideas, but they're just that... ideas. The resolution of your created .jpeg logo is way too small to be used commercially, especially at a print DPI of 300. You would have to create the logo in MidJourney and vector the logo yourself inside of Illustrator so that the vector can be resized and adjusted. In the future, if MidJourney spits out true .SVG files, then I'd be curious.
someone who finally gets it lol. i cringed when he stretched out the logo to fit the box in canva lmao. That, and the logos generated with ai look so generic they're easily forgettable and wouldn't be competitive in the real world. I never understood why someone would start a company/business if they can't even afford to hire an actual designer to make a proper logo lol
Yes SVG wit millions vertices and tons of issues with gradients .... etc
Actually you can use another ai to make any times better resolution and convert it to printable format
Its 2023 come on
There's plenty of ai out there to increase size and dpi that I've used and works amazingly well.
First of all, after getting the logo, you use ai upscaler to bring resolution up without losing quality. Then you take Ilustrator and turn it to vectors. Save as SVG and you have professional looking vector logo. Voila.
That eyedropper tool just blew my mind. Thanks for showing us how to get rid of the alien text!
What do you do to make sure that these AI logos are highly derivative of an already established trademark? Do you still do the normal pet search? Or is there a way through mid journey to make sure that it’s not exactly the same or extremely close to something else?
I see a lotta lawsuits coming.
Amazing video Matt, thanks! Just a quick discord shortcut that mayt help, UP ARROW brings to your chat box your last message, then you dont have to copy paste :)
Thanks for inspiration.... the Illustrations for the Coffeshop are quite interesting, but all the Logos do not have a quality and no Idea....
Man I love your cadence, you get straight the point in your video. Thanks 😊
the adding midjourney bot to my server is JEWEL of information! Thank you! Not to talk about all the useful information. Thank you so much
I was literally just talking about this last night with a friend. I was trying to find good options to do AI logos. Great video!!
its all about the prompt and your knowledge
Dude, everything depends on how you sell and what you sell. I have bought various types of content and studied them, especially ebooks in PDF format on the internet. There was one that had several prompts that I sold or used as examples, and I also used the prompts to create images and sell them on stock image sites for companies in my city to print on shirts. I also do online stuff like print on demand and I can make around $800 to $1260 a week by combining everything. Sometimes it's only per month (unfortunately). I can help anyone who wants to learn.
What country are you from?
@@flolim8571 US bro n u?
@@youmore271 Germany, but good job man. Hope your business keeps growing. On what page did you sell your images?
Tell me more
@@TheRestlsFootball give me ur instagram
"He's not that good with full words, but he's dang good with a single letter."
Had no idea we would be talking about me in the 1st grade in this video.
You can use whatfont or similar websites to find the font
WhatTheFont is a great resource but they seem to charge a bit for all the fonts. So I like to find a "close enough" in Canva.
@@mreflow Imagine charging a bit for art and design
Your a wizard. You hide the the word with an element the same color as the logo. Wow new skil learned
2:45 ... 🤣 I would definitely use whatever MJ came up with for the text!! Better than Lorem Ipsum!!
9:45 hint: it's much much easier to judge the font similarity when you re-type the word from the image :)
Great tip!
one of the coolest videos ive seen for logos ty for this
3:00 Strange the perfect wolf man is in the bottom right corner 😀
I hope this also work for a tattoo I've been thinking in
Thanks! i used this to make my logo!
The interface on my computer is totally different from yours, for instance, I don't have a right column, so I can't find the midjourney bot. Can someone please help me!
Whooo Hooooo!! Just subscribed, soooo FUNNNN!!! Thanks for sharing Matt, happy to join the Party!! 🙂
Isolated white background will be more consistent also “logotype illustration” is a good phrase to use
a bunch of super useful tips, thanks man!
Very helpful video, liked and subscribed. I can't be the only one who laughed at this "The 28 favorite tools I play with myself".. 🤣 Thanks for the video brother!
The instructions for creating a server are very simple. Thanks for sharing
If you are making little graphics for a local 'Mom & Pop' business fine. But be careful handing over generic looking AI generated stuff to a larger business. First of all you will need a quality vector conversion, nobody can use PNG logos professionally. Auto-trace won't cut it as is leaves hundreds of messy anchor points, others working with your files will notice this and it screams amateur, that would be unacceptable to a client in the know. Also in general logo marks/brand assets need to be copyrightable and if the AI is pulling ideas from everywhere you should check for similarity in the same industry. At the moment in the US copyright can be obtained if the final works is not exactly the same as the AI generated result and it needs to be altered. But this is still not clear in terms of branding and logos. My advice, use these for inspiration and a variety of ideas then redraw your own versions. But regardless, great demo and proof of concept.
A video Would be great on how to use weights. Unless you have one already.
Bro, your my go to for all things AI. You have opened up a whole new world. Just watching you in a few days, I've created ai art for my other RUclips channels (banners and profile pic), Instagram pics and some cool animations. Thx so much. Your videos are straight forward and easy to follow. Keep up the great work. Peace from Australia ✌
Creating a logo that way will result in you having trouble later if you need a vector or a big print though. It's great for inspiration but to really get full power you need to retrace it in illustrator (or any other vector tool)
My thought exactly. Great for concept generation, but you would never (or should never) be using these as final deliverables in a project or for your business.
Even Inkscape can automatically convert these into vectors. Non issue.
im so glad somebody said this , i love some of the designs that ai can create but not being able to make it as a vector iis asking for trouble and problems down the line - overall that makes this video worthless
There are programs to convert them into vector folks
@@32lilbruce have you ever used one of them? Illustrator does it for years now and it's still pretty bad
I used Blue Willow as a MJ alternative. Blue Willow is a free tool and I satisfied to use it and Blue Willow recently launched V2 with a brand new model upgrade. Now I got better-quality images with more aesthetic outputs
It would be real nice if they changed the algorithm to ensure the text you have in quotes makes it to the logo.
😂 laughed pretty hard at the mascot part. Got me good.
I've been bingeing on your videos all day. So many cool ideas I can use. Thanks man!
If you type in white background and/or PNG you can get the backgrounds correct really consistently
Dope Presentation Bro. Learned so much in those 14 mins. Subbed for sure
Thank you for this great vid!!
Could you please drag the bottom part of the video up so that the most important information is not obscured by the RUclips controls?
How do I get the modjourney bot ?
You ROCK, Matt! I am so grateful I was guided to your RUclips Channel. Please keep these AMAZING tutorials coming our way. Peace & Blessings from Los Angeles.🙏🏿
As graphic designer I can tell you: for logo ideas it's really cool, but no for the final design with out more work over it.
Thanks again Matt. I need a logo.
Thanks. I used Blue Willow as a MJ alternative. Blue Willow is a free tool and I satisfied to use it. I will try this trick by using Blue Willow
Loved the way you removed backgrounds. Never crossed my mind to do it that way
You're a legend bro. Thank you for your work!
Great idea. I managed to get a logo with my name. But it took like 80 renders to find it.
you definitely earned my subscription for sure! Great channel
Incredibly well made video, thanks my friend 🤝🏼
Hey, great video, thanks! 🙂
I don't have that sidebar with the midjourney Bot Icon, which you added to your server. How can I make it appearing? Thanks for help
Merci pour l'info Matt et tres bien expliquer
Today you made a difference, thanks my guy 💙💙
totally awesome...so appreciate your attention to detail....what I am looking for is how to use an image from my iphone with midjourney
Thanks man ! i was checking this on Playground AI, but it seems like Midjourney does it better ! now we only need to have this in vector format to start charging client !
You’re content is so practical and timely. Thank you, Matt.
Useful videos..as always... keep it up man ..
at beginning when its generated with wolf and man with beard, its less coffee shop more a steak house logo.
Logo design or brand design is a thoughtful process of analysis, research, development, testing and technical skills that cannot be ever done by AI. These designs you've done work good as illustrations and they certainly look good, but they are nothing else than that. A brand design must meet a different criteria than just look "full of details, colors and shapes and figures and shadows". A logo design is the solving of a problem with strategy and real world application knowledge. for example you said in a comment that this is easily scalable, just up scale it and down scale it. Well that's one of the basics of what NOT to do to a logo if it doesn't meet the technical criteria. A logo that is complex can only be complex at a certain size, a complex logo must be simplified by steps in order to be down scaled and that simplification will vary depending on the size AND media. What i'm saying is that these designs are too far away from being a functionaly working brand but they will surely look good as illustration symbols. Don't ever confuse logo / brand with illustraitions. For example Nike, Apple, Shell, Coca Cola, etc are logos / brands, but the design of a coin "face of a person with numbers and lots of details" are closer to what you've designed here and are more destined to work as symbolic illustrations than work as logos. Please don't get me wrong, I think the designs shown here look great for something done by just typing words, but they shouldn't be labeled as logos because they are not. Sorry if my comment seeems harsh, didn't mean to be irritating, just that I've worked on redesigning a lot of brands that had "logos" like this before and those people "didn't know" why their brand wasn't working. If anyone here wants an advice, If you take your project seriously and want to take it to the real world please look for a professional designer to create your brand / logo and you won't regret.
Well said. But most that jump on the AI train will not or won’t understand what’s your statement. We will see TONS of cheap designs like these ones in 2023 … and then people wich focus ob quality will do it exactly as we do it today … professional and not this Mickey Mouse bullshit. First trap they all run into: all that generated stuff is just pixels. If the client want that on a truck, building or billboard these AI guys are all screwed.
tl dr; but the future is NOW man!
@@GoDiMoNsTeR The future will be created by us. With the help of professionals using AI as a tool - but NOT by AI let alone.
You sir, are a light in the dark in these comments. I was thinking the same thing about these "logos." I think this tool will have a certain place in graphic design in the future for concepting and sketching but by no means is it delivering the same product that a professional would. I see many comments asking why these won't export in vector or why the text isn't reading properly. It's very eye opening to see that most don't want to use this to concept and start a project, they want to use it to finish a project. At the current state of these AI programs that's just not possible.
@@Bones-1L35 I get what you and @Sergio meant. Of course the job delivered by a professional is better, but the gap is noticeably closing. If AI is doing this level of detail now, how long do you think it will take until it does export a graphics vector? Plus, for example, I needed a quick logo to set up a Shopify store, and what the AI provided, I upscaled with another AI, and it more than capable of meeting the very low requirements of that use case.
You rock man! Always solid content.
Massive value!!! Thank you
Is it possible Matt to upload a logo we already made and have ai create branding materials and marketing content for that human made logo?
That's a good video. You can draw in Canva too instead of using squares.
Thank You Man Really Helped
Beware, any Ai produce by law recognised as public domain worldwide, so where it can used if can be copied by anyone legally. No commercial perspectives.
That Canva composition hurt my soul
You gotta go with cute mascot #3 bro 😂😂😂
This video was really interesting! Thank you so much for sharing this tip! 🙌😁
Love the video, thank you for sharing! You got my subscription!
When you say these are neat logo designs concepts, I’m like (facepalm)🤦♂️
It’s trying to be good, it has potential but, i can make more creative ideas faster with pan and paper then trying to prompt and guess with this unpredictable results. This tool is definitely build by programmers for programmers. With all this prompt/codings.
I hope that designers will jump sooner to this AI UX, and create actually usable tools.
I believe the future is to make a tool that can render your ideas, not render just something…
Great video. Thank you so much for sharing
Great tutorial. Thank you.
Amazing video Matt...
Man you are one of the best content creator, always making exact the videos who interests me 😊
Love your videos❤ hope you will post more 💗
Great content!
So are your viewers going to be, The Wolfe Pack?
You're first and I'm second. 🤝🔥
@@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked 🤝
Howling at an AI moon!
No
But we cannot use I for commercial purpose or sell these logos right?
the fact that Canva doesn't have an eraser/brush tool blows my mind. I literally pay for Photoshop just for that one option even though I like working in Canva more since it's easier
Graphic designers smashing their keyboards right now.
Sick video dude, super helpful, I redid my website logo using this tutorial 🤟
Why is everyone complaining about the logos!? As a graphic designer some of these actually look really great so I don't get it
I've had pretty good success also adding
Black and white clipart in the prompt
so "clip art" helped a lot. Thanks!
I really love this part 08:19, give more inspiration.. now i have a logo base.. Thanks Matt, i already subcribe you.. Thanks so much
1:26 - such a shame Discord won't allow Midjourney to paint any happy little trees :(
8:19 Well Sir, you did not told it what future tools they sell :D
Please make logo design in Bluewillow as well . 🤩🤩 Great videos as always.. Bro..
Love from India 🤓🤓
AI text be like: ALLOÆ SSELŒN
8:19 not quite sure either 🤫
Eh fuc all that. I'm opening a coffee shop called WOLLEE MAAN. Gonna be a hit.
excellent video, other creators just type prompts whithout explaining shit
If the AI could make the image with all it's layers so it can be moved into photoshop and editied it would make it so much better.
I had no idea that it was possible to create a LOGO with AI. This is amazing, such top tier content ! What are your thoughts on BlueWillow ? Can I use it in this process?
i'm here to point out the fact that @14:05 you say "i play with myself" :)