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  • @griffinmusicinc
    @griffinmusicinc Месяц назад +12

    Nice video. I've been a ProTools user for 25 years as well. I have always had a love hate relationship with PT for all the reasons everyone else does. I've gone back and forth between different DAW hoping to find a DAW that excites me, and LUNA was the first one to inspire me since PT, but I had to put LUNA on the shelf for a little over a year because it didn't support Kontakt multi-tracking. It now supports multi-tracking, so now I will probably breakup with PT. I just don't know how to tell her yet. lol

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  Месяц назад

      Oh I totally understand where you’re coming from. I have to projects slotted for this fall and I’m going to attempt them in Luna. However I can see if you would need to use the daw for bigger post projects pro tools I feel is still the way to go

    • @griffinmusicinc
      @griffinmusicinc Месяц назад +2

      @@nickiden at the moment I’m going to continue to record in PT, but will experiment with exporting the stems out to LUNA for mixing purposes. My very first time mixing in LUNA was my absolute best mix I had ever done since I’ve been creating music. I have a project that I’m pitching for a Christmas show at a theme park where I performed for many years. It’s just a demo so I will probably mix the entire thing in LUNA. Wish me luck.

  • @djdksf1
    @djdksf1 Месяц назад +1

    Good on ya! After being primarily a ProTools shop for 15+ years, we went all in and got an Apollo X8P and learned (and are still learning) Luna as our main DAW. For me, the API console and tape emulation alone are worth the price of admission, but we've bought a huge amount of plugs an extensions by this point too. The whole thing really is geared toward people who love and revere analog sound and workflow. It's crazy that we live in a world where we have access to a lot of what made recording (for me) in the early/mid 80s so special, without the headaches - and massive expense - that come from maintaining an analog console environment. With a good MCU controller, you really do feel like you're driving a classic rig most of the time. Very inspiring.

    • @bobbyarthur-yf3yf
      @bobbyarthur-yf3yf Месяц назад

      I have to say ditto to that .. funny if we were around music or a studio in mid 80s Luna really is home !!

    • @bobbyarthur-yf3yf
      @bobbyarthur-yf3yf Месяц назад

      Oww I’ll add I use a couple touch screen left and right side which allows mix window one side and using all ssl controllers as my console uf8 uf 1 uc1 so the 360 software on the other with touch bein my finger if needed quick

  • @hdboykott
    @hdboykott День назад

    I have now switched from Win Cubase to OSX Logic to Luna after ~20 years. Especially the “ARM” mode for latency-free recordings without buffersize problems is so much better than in Logic. I like it and haven't had Logic open for 12 months.

  • @colindias4820
    @colindias4820 Месяц назад +2

    Moving from reasson 12 to luna gradually. Doing all my stuff in it now. Getting the hang of it. I love it. .. The extensions are top notch and the feel of the the DAW ye inspires you. It's like having a virtual digital amalog console in front of you .. foe plugjns I'm using kontakt 14 std. . The shape has some great sounds though very limited. .. ❤

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for the comment. I’ve really been enjoying the console a lot

  • @Drum2
    @Drum2 Месяц назад +10

    Switched from Logic to LUNA years ago, so much better for me, love Luna so much, especially its workflow and API console emulation add-on.

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  Месяц назад +1

      Yeah the api extension is a must for sure

  • @drips.zacheer
    @drips.zacheer Месяц назад +1

    Luna is just so good

  • @marcusmauldin731
    @marcusmauldin731 Месяц назад

    Luna is a fun and inspiring DAW. I’m a Studio One and Reason user, but gradually leaning into Luna.

  • @BobbyGeneric145
    @BobbyGeneric145 Месяц назад +2

    Nick, your best free daws video introduced me to this daw... I ONLY need an arranger, otherwise I'm dawless... Im going to test arranging my tracks in luna and see how it goes. Its my first daw experience.

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  Месяц назад

      I think you will like it :D. I haven’t done much with Midi yet with Luna, but I have done some arrangement with song parts and it worked very well

    • @BobbyGeneric145
      @BobbyGeneric145 Месяц назад +1

      @@nickiden when I say arrange, I mean take the various wav files ive already recorded into my 1010 bluebox and assemble them into a completed song.

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 25 дней назад

      @@BobbyGeneric145Just use Reaper man and you can even mark song sections on the timeline to easily rearrange or copy and paste somewhere to change for an alternate version of it.

  • @FreakinOutOnAudio
    @FreakinOutOnAudio Месяц назад +3

    Luna just recently added very nicely implemented multi-out for vsts. I’d wager the other most requested features (hw inserts and more advanced midi feature set) will show up eventually. Never know when because ua is quiet.

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  Месяц назад

      Yeah I heard they released the multi out on plug ins. They have been pretty good for updates so hopefully the hw inserts is coming down the pipeline

  • @chizzulwinduh1941
    @chizzulwinduh1941 Месяц назад +2

    It'd definitely on it''s way. The problem is that their development plan is centred mostly around the feedback button in LUNA, so unless you're a regular user, they're not going to hear what people who can't or don't use it because of the pretty big missing things. It's a closed feedback loop. The main things missing for me are hardware inserts - time compensated, ARA2 Integration and a proper grown up midi editing system like Cubase. I think many people, including myself, have given up on LUNA entirely because of these and other things. I gave up and sold my Apollo X8P's and satellites and went with RME. I am very, very happy with that choice. Saying that, they have finally just integrated Multiple Outs. They've done a good job of that, give them their due, that must be said.

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks so much for this :D. I hope the hardware inserts and time compensation is on its way for sure

    • @kellygreenii
      @kellygreenii Месяц назад

      Disagree. UA has been smart about this. They don’t seem to be interested in trying to be an all-thing-to-everyone product. Instead they are playing to their strengths (audio, software emulations of analog hardware) and taking aim at a part of the market where the offerings are kind of weak.
      Namely Pro Tools and Studio One. Presonus is feeling the pressure and upping their game in response. Pro Tools….well Avid is being Avid is being Avid.
      Trying to take on Cubase in the MIDI arena is not good move for a very young DAW.

  • @MadGamesInc
    @MadGamesInc 27 дней назад +2

    Will it ever get support of older versions of vst (pre vst3)?

  • @beatfrombrain
    @beatfrombrain Месяц назад +3

    I drank some tequila, watched your video, totally zoned out while paying attention, and totally enjoyed myself

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  Месяц назад +2

      Haha that’s awesome. I think this is the best comment I ever gotten :D

  • @RecordingStudio9
    @RecordingStudio9 Месяц назад +1

    I'm trialling LUNA in Windows, which has different audio hardware setup options, I'm too looking forward for LUNA to be my main DAW, once the useability is better. No crashes at all, but there are lots of technical issues on Windows OS platform.
    Yes, hardware insert option is a must for me too.

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  Месяц назад

      I heard the windows beta is a bit buggy. What kind of issues are you having? I hope they smooth that out. Thanks for the comment

    • @FreakinOutOnAudio
      @FreakinOutOnAudio Месяц назад

      It’s up and down on windows, but lots of rapid updates so far, and ua doesn’t have a track record of abandoning software: most of their oldest plugins are still updated and working on new os’s and daws etc, and Luna Mac has been around awhile now.

    • @MrTonyPruden
      @MrTonyPruden Месяц назад +1

      LUNA hasn’t successfully opened yet in Windows for me. It’s starts to open and quits before opening the program.

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  Месяц назад

      @@MrTonyPruden oh that isn’t good. Do you get any pop ups or does it just crash

    • @FreakinOutOnAudio
      @FreakinOutOnAudio Месяц назад +1

      Sounds like a plug-in scan failure, which Luna is still hit and miss on.

  • @craigwilson2568
    @craigwilson2568 21 день назад

    Do you think the summing is spot on to analog gear?

  • @Banoffeeee
    @Banoffeeee Месяц назад +2

    UAD LUNA needed feature updates
    1.) ***BETTER COMPING SYSTEM (Ableton & Logic comping is great IMO / I'm also a protools user which i find it great too but not as intuitive)
    2.) COMPING FOR MIDI (ableton let u comp midi too which is life-changing)
    3.) MORE MIDI FEATURES (articulation set like logic will be a killer or some Ableton's midi capabilities) wish to open midi region in new floating window
    4.) **FREEZE TRACK UP TO INSERT (Like Protools)
    5.) FROZEN REGION DRAGABLE TO NEW TRACK AS AUDIO (So Useful when sequencing and arranging like in Ableton)
    6.) **IMPORT SESSION DATA FROM TEMPLATE OR OTHER SESSION FILE would speed up a tons for workflow
    7.) **MAKE INACTIVE FOR PLUGINS AND TRACKS to save the processing power (has a lot in my protools template but deactivate plugins only does not save the CPU)
    8.) SSL and Neve Vision Emulation would make Luna top of the game

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  Месяц назад

      Yes I agree. I would love midi comping

  • @aryastark...earlyhardcore4171
    @aryastark...earlyhardcore4171 5 дней назад +1

    is it really necesary to use an interface or ? on windows

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  4 дня назад

      Nope. You can run it on Mac or windows and no interface required to run it.

  • @richiefamus8778
    @richiefamus8778 Месяц назад

    I’m one of those guys who’s heavily invested in the UAD ecosystem. I already owned nearly all of the UAD made plugins before Luna was a thing. It’s beautiful and I’d love to switch. Maybe someone can help. How do you stop the edit screen from moving up and down when you’re trying to manually scroll right or left? It’s very annoying. And 2ndly, is there a way to link alternate windows? Why are they there if you can’t link them? It’s been years and to my knowledge, these things still haven’t been addressed??

  • @Ryanthemusician
    @Ryanthemusician Месяц назад +2

    Is there a way to use Luna while Offline? Because im not always Somewhere where i have internet

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  Месяц назад

      Good question. I think the daw will work but if you have the pro bundle it might not because it syncs with ilok cloud. I’ll double check and let you know

    • @Arthur_My_Dear
      @Arthur_My_Dear Месяц назад

      @@nickidenYou replace iLok Cloud with an iLok key if you want to work offline. Each plugin has 2 activations so you can have one in the cloud and one on the key (usb)

    • @faizaldric
      @faizaldric 24 дня назад +1

      yes you can do it with ilok usb

  • @JimboJones99
    @JimboJones99 Месяц назад +2

    Until Luna gets Melodyne integration within tracks … I’ll stick with Studio One.

  • @kaishunider4110
    @kaishunider4110 13 дней назад

    I wish UA would let me change Luna’s shortcut key wherever I want it to.

  • @notdaones
    @notdaones 17 дней назад

    I'm just not sure why I would treat Luna just like MIX BUS. And that's that I only use these DAWs to try summing through them. But why in hell would I not edit audio in Studio 1 or protools and them process the stems in LUNA.

  • @chrisdorsch9754
    @chrisdorsch9754 Месяц назад +1

    Does the mixer come with Duel Panners?

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  Месяц назад

      On stereo tracks yes

  • @jamesjames77777
    @jamesjames77777 Месяц назад +2

    Absolutely love Luna but I had to go back to Logic. No hardware inserts in Luna, so you can’t use your outboard equipment. Very sad.

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  Месяц назад +1

      Yeah I agree. I think this is the biggest compliment I see. It has to be coming down the pipeline… I hope :D

    • @jamesjames77777
      @jamesjames77777 Месяц назад +1

      @@nickiden I hope so too mate, but I asked 3 years ago on the UAD forum, so I asked again very recently and the UA admin responded saying “when or IF it’s implemented” - which suggests that it’s not coming, though the guy “neither confirmed or denied”. This is basically alienating anyone with hardware, which is insanity 😭😭😭

    • @andrewhammondt
      @andrewhammondt Месяц назад +3

      @@jamesjames77777I was openly questioning Luna’s lack of hardware inserts to a friend.
      His response was: “you are surprised that a DAW developed by a company that is most notable for developing digital recreations of hardware is not prioritizing a way for you to NOT have to use their digital recreations of hardware?”

    • @jamesjames77777
      @jamesjames77777 Месяц назад +2

      @@andrewhammondt Well they can look forward to every single person with hardware not using their DAW 🤦‍♂️ Surely people with hardware would be more likely to use Luna because of the digital recreations and knowledge about the hardware?

    • @andrewhammondt
      @andrewhammondt Месяц назад

      @@jamesjames77777 For what it’s worth, I do think UAD does a fairly good job listening to their user base and Luna will eventually be patched to include inserts. After all, some people own an actual 1176 ;)

  • @Byronic19134
    @Byronic19134 25 дней назад

    It’s crazy how people like Luna but never tried Cakewalk which was free and had the channel strip workflow mastered.

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  25 дней назад

      Is cakewalk still free? I don’t think it is anymore. I would give it another go.

  • @ettiennelane9173
    @ettiennelane9173 Месяц назад +1

    custom shortcuts and clip fx or at least an option to use an external editor for clip processing. otherwise I won't attempt to switch...

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  Месяц назад

      Thanks for comment. Custom shortcuts would be amazing

    • @ettiennelane9173
      @ettiennelane9173 Месяц назад

      @@nickiden absolutely

  • @adlerburg
    @adlerburg 29 дней назад

    HW Inserts HW INSERTS.. HW INSERTS! I've been asking them since the LUNA epoch, you say it's coming?? I don't believe it at this point. Yes you can send the entire mix out and then sauce up your two bus etc, as you need not time correction on everything at once, but we who have spent untold money on comps eqs etc that want to mix with these jewels.... don't see it happening. And it's a deal breaker.... and it's an inspiring DAW!! My guess is UA thinks it would bite into their plugin business, so it's a business decision not to support real hw that might displace a plugin. Too bad, as I would immediate burn my Avid affiliation and jump from PT to LUNA. UA, what do we have to do for this? Pay for LUNA? Got my check book open guys!

  • @Pintosonic
    @Pintosonic Месяц назад

    I’m not sure a lot of people are using the free version of Luna because all the good stuff is in the Luna PRO bundle and the other Universal Audio native plugins. Luna is really good to track a band, do the mix and mastering but if you deal with a lot of virtual or midi instruments, the midi editor is really bad.

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  Месяц назад

      I just started using the midi editor and I see what you mean. It’s a bit confusing when it comes to editing and I don’t know why that would be

    • @kellygreenii
      @kellygreenii Месяц назад

      Agreed. The MIDI workflow is really basic and is its main weakness. If it weren’t this, LUNA would be the only DAW I use right now.

    • @kellygreenii
      @kellygreenii Месяц назад

      @@nickiden Everything is context-specific, so it can be hard to find the functions you need and the functions are very basic.

    • @bobbyarthur-yf3yf
      @bobbyarthur-yf3yf Месяц назад

      Ya süper band oriented for sure which is its appeal but ya I’m digging in to bitwig for the alter ego …

    • @Pintosonic
      @Pintosonic Месяц назад

      @@bobbyarthur-yf3yf I’m using bitwig for the creative part and once everything is done and the rough mix sounds good in Bitwig, I export the audio stems on all the tracks with most audio effects off and send everything to Luna for final mixing and mastering.

  • @rudiwillems1166
    @rudiwillems1166 Месяц назад

    Hi, Mr. Nick Iden Very Thanks to share Luna i'm familie with uad plugins, the very new daw Controllers are SoftTube and SSL controller and Presonus, i Prefere one of these Sir. informations.

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  Месяц назад

      Thanks :D. I hear great things about those controllers.

  • @itsevar
    @itsevar Месяц назад +1

    25👀?? I’m only in my first decade of music production, and I’m not going to lie I like PT (I’m FL GANG), but I tried LUNA for a bit and it’s absolutely fantastic…
    I just want them to go native with AUX tracks, the price of an APOLLO be crazy cause I like to PRINT while tracking. This is my one thing,
    oh and the comping could be better, switching versions trips me up at times

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  Месяц назад +1

      Yes, I do love comping in Pro Tools. It’s so easy and clear

  • @chanwerk
    @chanwerk Месяц назад

    8:34 lmfao and the pause lmfao

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  Месяц назад +1

      😆 now I will never un see that.

    • @chanwerk
      @chanwerk Месяц назад

      @@nickiden If you think that's something check this one out 18:30 that's something lol

  • @MKD371
    @MKD371 25 дней назад

    The midi is not flexible enough compared to Logic. If you are used to a DAW, personally, I stick with with it. If you are tracking audio with a band, Luna may well be great, however, if you compose, then Logic more than does the job, as well as handle audio.

  • @tkelong3569
    @tkelong3569 Месяц назад +1

    It’ll be good some day but not tOday.
    Windows version is very very unstable, as betas tend to be but this is like 3rd or 4th version for updates.
    Not good.
    Eventually they’ll get out of beta stage.

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  Месяц назад

      I’m sure eventually the windows version will stabilize. Haha eventually

    • @justsomeguy1074
      @justsomeguy1074 11 дней назад

      Working fine here on Windows 11. Luna version 1.72.

  • @geroldwaefler9485
    @geroldwaefler9485 13 дней назад

    The only what i wanted to know is, if Luna now can run on Windows 10, because last August it was not possible to use it on Windows 10, it have crashed constantly.
    But you are on Mac, like all who make You Tube Videos about Luna. MAC is for me selve to use a no go...

    • @justsomeguy1074
      @justsomeguy1074 11 дней назад

      It works great on Windows 11. I would upgrade as Windows 10 was problematic with a lot of things.

    • @geroldwaefler9485
      @geroldwaefler9485 11 дней назад

      @@justsomeguy1074 Thank you for your reply. I have try it again now, and now Luna run on Windows 10. The only problem i have now, is, with my Motu HD192s only the Imputs are working, but i get no sound output from the Luna monitor. I can not hear the mix. Only if i use VoiceMeter Software as "Audiodevice" i can hear the monitor output from Luna, but in this configuration i have no audio inputs from my HD 192s.
      For me Windows 10 works perfect, only the Luna Software have still bugs.
      Do not use Windows 11 !!!!!!!!!!!
      By the last Windows 11 update, is the Telemetry and all stuff with them microsoft spy on us, inplemented in the File Explorer:
      If you cut out the Telemetry, the whole File Explorer will no more work and with this the whole Windows 11 gets brocken.
      Windows 11 will collect the whole data about you, all and every step you do with your Computer. All what goes trough your File Explorer, will be stored on the microsoft servers...

    • @geroldwaefler9485
      @geroldwaefler9485 11 дней назад

      Now it is working with Asio4All on Windows 10 ! There are no bugs anymore !

  • @alexanderstuartpetty485
    @alexanderstuartpetty485 Месяц назад +1

    Once you try Reaper, your search will be over.

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  Месяц назад +2

      Yeah Reapers good. I have a copy which I do like :D

    • @Noisehead101
      @Noisehead101 26 дней назад

      I can't stand reaper 😂 studio one for me. I'll revisit Luna further down the line, it's not ready yet.

  • @anechoicmedia
    @anechoicmedia Месяц назад +1

    looks like Harrison Mixbus or Ardour...I'll stick with Ardour - UA is too pricey

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  Месяц назад

      Ardour is great software

    • @axellau6456
      @axellau6456 Месяц назад +2

      UA is not as pricey as they used to be. And their LUNA DAW is a free app.

  • @notdaones
    @notdaones 17 дней назад +1

    You think you can't see in LUNA... try mix bus. Hoooly

  • @dspoet1
    @dspoet1 Месяц назад +1

    No hardware inserts is a no for me.

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  Месяц назад

      Yeah I totally get that

  • @maggsvamp
    @maggsvamp Месяц назад

    looks like Reason

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  Месяц назад

      I haven’t used reason in like 20 years. But I kinda see what you mean

  • @Pummelfay
    @Pummelfay Месяц назад +2

    I have very little faith in universal audio these days tbth, which is why i would never commit to it

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  Месяц назад

      That’s fair

    • @bobbyarthur-yf3yf
      @bobbyarthur-yf3yf Месяц назад

      Can you share more ?

    • @Pummelfay
      @Pummelfay Месяц назад

      @@bobbyarthur-yf3yf i mean just look a the whole direction theyve taken. Look at their constant sales and native version, loosing their direction instead of improving the external dsp like even avid dud with the carbon. Look at what RME did the last few years with totalmix (room eq, analysers, complex loopback) and their sophisticated selection of products for professionals. In the meanwhile UA is releasing 200 usd volt interfaces and cheap sm7b ripoffs. They have totally lost touch to their core customers base.

    • @Pummelfay
      @Pummelfay Месяц назад

      @@bobbyarthur-yf3yf i did but my comment got removed

    • @darkmaer
      @darkmaer 24 дня назад

      @@bobbyarthur-yf3yf yeah I’d be curious too. Because I was very much against universal audio, mainly due to the fact that they were using dated DSP chips and charging way too much for those DSP chips essentially screwing over people. Now that they are evolving in getting into the 21st-century and bringing stuff to native I am now a happy universal audio user.
      The only thing I can see most people being angry or not liking universal audio at this point in time. They invested so much into the DSP aspect of it, and there was an element of elitism to being a universal audio user and now that’s gone.
      I’m still a little bit confused about the Apollo interfaces that they just brought out. I think for the most part, the DSP chips are a waste of money and it would be nice to have an Apollo interface that doesn’t have that. My RE interface already has the room EQ function already built into it so I don’t need that. The only thing that they have on those Apollo that I would actually be interested in is the unison stuff.

  • @gregormarini
    @gregormarini 5 дней назад +1

    Luna is like an old version of Pro Tools that lacks so much of what is needed for a professional workflow! I understand UA's marketing strategy of wanting to implement plugins and analog summing options in the DAW, but it doesn't really do as much as is generally claimed! - People who know analog gear would rather refuse LUNA and those who have no experience with it don't know how to use this stuff! A lot of hype, nothing more!

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  5 дней назад

      I do agree with you about it being like a older version of PT in the sense that some of the features needed aren’t there yet. But I think like Pro Tools they will be added eventually if Luna can maintain itself in the market. I think there are a lot of people out there including myself who have a ton of analog gear experience but still like to work in the box. Even if i had access to a ton analog gear I wouldn’t refuse Luna.

  • @Homermad81
    @Homermad81 20 дней назад

    LUNA is probably the worst DAW I have ever used. It violates the 5-click rule to a ridiculous degree. I dont know why anyone would use this when Reaper does more with two clicks. Good video by the way. LUNA is just not for me.

    • @nickiden
      @nickiden  20 дней назад

      Haha thanks :D I would agree with you especially when it comes to midi. I do feel it’s a bit clunky in that department for sure