When You Hire A Bad General Contractor
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2020
- Working on a house renovation for a real estate investor they contacted a general contractor who was not known in the area. We were hired for the electrical installation of the job and after 6 months the job was left like this.
Make sure to hire someone who has a good reputation, who has a online presence and that is engaged when doing this walk through of the project.
This contractor never wrote down any note, did work that was not authorized and not only made a problem for the investor but for other trades.
NOTE: video doesn't show the drain pipe that was cut in the floor and when the water was turn on it soaked the whole ceiling below it.
#contractors #kitchener #waterloo #cambridge #hackwork
I was a self employed contractor for thirty years and this kind of work is more common then people are aware of. Kept me busy.
Haha just started my journey with my own business and these people keep me busy
@@giovannimora9134 I've never enjoyed fixing other people's shit or repairs. I don't pass on the work, but I always bid it a little high so it's worth it to me.
@Sayin wat people just expect everything for almost nothing
Can you sue a contractor in court if they didn’t do it by code?
@@unvcht5046 just a word of advice. Don’t retain legal advice from people on RUclips.
Looks like one of my weekend DIY projects.
Sad stuff
Gmen 😂😂😂😂😂
Expected from us Diy selferz
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Omg I’m weak! Funny comment! 🤣
“If you thought hiring a professional is expensive, wait until you hire an amateur.”
Thank you. I just quoted a roof @ $16K, and this guy was referred to me by his HVAC company who I’ve done work for the owner who was very impressed.
Oh sorry, I have a guy who’ll do it for $10K.
I tried to warn him without dogging the other guy (as I don’t know the quality) but to be careful with such a low cost on something so important.
Materials were $6K but roofing is high insurance premiums, very high wage expectations, huge liability, and somewhere skill is very important and training as well.
To give context I’m 16+ yrs experience with 13 give or take my own business.
I use thermal imaging to find insulation / airflow issues. Not your run of the mill exterior contractor based on high volume, but rather top notch work.
I show up close pictures of all my work, not jjst open shingles/siding runs but the flashings/skylights and all details around chimneys and caps etc etc.
There were several occasions I was out bid by drastically lower bids for HVAC work. I didn’t fight it. Months later I was called back to come fix everything. They didn’t do a load calculation. They didn’t pull a permit. They had terrible workmanship. They had no concept of static pressures or humidity (in Florida). Customer ended up paying a lot more for the project.
Brilliant quote!
unfortunately in my experience price is actually almost irrelevant, cheap contractors do shitty job, had to redo everything myself, then hire expensive contractors, still have to redo at least half myself... my point is, even expensive contractors don't do things properly... if it's the floor, it will be uneven or won't fit properly, if it's electrician job you will endup doing drywall work, if it's a trim paintjob be sure they won't sand it prior and you will see 2 colors and blemishes, if you hire to regrout tiles, they won't remove the old one and will just re-apply on top of it and if it is a different color you will see spots and they will just shrug their shoulders. and it's all different contractors... you keep trying and it is disappointment after disappointment
@@efreitorhabibulin238 sounds like you either don’t pick contractors very well or you don’t have good options in your area.
This is why I always have so much anxiety in finding people to get work done on my house.
I've been in business for 30 years, 5 star company.
Advice, don't deal with someone who give short answers to your questions. Or doesn't give you a detailed proposal forcing you to ask a ton of basic questions. These are ways contractors can manipulate the scope of work by saying "that wasn't included". Change order kings they are called.Also, lack of transparency shows a lack of knowledge. Lastly, get multiple bids no matter how difficult that is. That is the only way to know what the market price is.
Dude just go down to Home Depot and find some Hispanic men. Not trying to be racist, but they're the best workers 9/10 times. Hard working, honest, and get the job done quickly and correctly.
@@JonezBBQneed people that are licensed and insured in case something goes wrong.
@@JonezBBQThis is exactly what you DON'T do.
@@JonezBBQ love how you managed to be both racist and horribly wrong
Thats not a "contractor" it was a guy that had some tools. I literally lost my breath laughing when I saw that toilet.
Lol me too. Also, the crown molding behind the door trim made me loose it!
me too! Literally spit out the coffee!
You guys see the toilet. I see a big ass window 1 foot above the tub/ shower.
@@duganfr they probably designed it that way for a convenient way to dry off after showering. Think about it.
Obviously some "bootleg " person, unlicensed and off the streets! 😕
This has “ I know someone who can do it cheaper “ written all over it
agree with u there old proverb - cheap ass pays twice ! 🤣
Yeah or, I charge more because I know people think cheap bids mean bad work....then I make even more money for my crappy work and screw home owners even more!
Yeah the homeowner saw other people’s ideas on Pinterest because they have no creativity themselves, and hired someone else to build it because they have no handi-skills themselves, and found the cheapest person to do it because they have no money themselves to pay to get it done right. They live on borrowed dreams.
Well the guy talking needed to make more money of course he did the most amount of work.
@Sayin wat "I can do it for cheap" he said
"I'll give you a discount"
he said
This is a classic ""you get what you pay for" Moment. If a contractor is much cheaper than the rest, there's probably a good reason for it.
I had an architecture/home design course in high school that required us to turn in blueprints and sketches of houses based on “clients’ wishes” (aka our teacher giving us a list of what to include, probably to make sure that we didn’t forget to draw in at least one bathroom or any bedrooms at all) and let me tell you… this house is what would happen if the lowest graded blueprint had been built by actual high schoolers themselves. The floating toilet is literally just a real-life representation of an unfinished digital blueprint on any interior design software lmao
This is a case of taking the lowest bid. I can tell the floor is the cheapest on the market. If subfloor has issues that are not addressed this is what happens. As far as the kitchen I’d like to see the architect drawings too see where the discrepancies are. They put flooring on the steps. Bathroom wasn’t done in a day or two so clearly no one was checking in on them. There is more than just a contractor to blame here.
Not Always true sometimes you just don’t know and I didn’t take the lowest bid and the guy I’m working with is the lowest type of person
I bet they jumped on the price he gave them.
I’ve came in to fix jobs done by “professionals” and the prices were astronomical so sometimes it’s not always the lowest bid. A lot of times it is though.
The customer wants a high-end job using box store Builders grade materials and lowest priced contractor.......Doesn't work.
It's pretty obvious there _was_ _no_ architect. Everything here is an abject failure of planning. Proper prior planning prevents puss-poor performance.
I gotta hand it to the general contractor… most people OD before they can manage to get that high.
The best comment yet! 😂😂😂
You're still getting laughs from people watching this a year after you commented haha
This is why I do all my own renovations myself. Takes me 10 times longer due to all the research, planning, and inexperience, and probably costs twice as much just because I’m not immersed in the trade and I don’t know a lot of the common tricks to save money on materials, but in the end it is what I want, 100%. I realize not everyone is capable of doing things themselves but that’s when you ask yourself: “Do I like it enough the way it is to not have someone who doesn’t care make it even worse?”
There are plenty of good contractors that are proud of their work and have decades of experience. Of course, they are not cheap. This clown was not a pro. Should not reflect on all contractors
I'm with ya on that. I just re-did my kitchen and vinyl plank flooring throughout the house and numerous other projects, I must say I feel pretty good about myself after watching this vid. I don't know how anyone could actually put there name on this type of work!
I live in an old house and got into home improvement for that exact reason. My jobs rarely come out perfect, but they usually look better than the house in the video. And if I really botch something and have to re-do it, I've only lost a weekend of time plus material costs as opposed to thousands of dollars paid to scammy contractors.
At that point I’m just gonna work extra hours and pay someone to do a professional job.
We’ve just had the same experience on our house. The builders have gone into liquidation, left several clients with half finished jobs. One doesn’t even have four walls and it’s mid winter currently, 3 degrees at night.
All the work they did will have to be redone, inspections all failed, in the event of an earthquake nothing is properly held down so the whole roof could collapse now.
They cut up the wooden floorboards unnecessarily, it was native timber very expensive as you can’t cut native forests down anymore obviously. Basically complete horror show
that sounds worse than this
I would be LIVID
I worked for a bad contractor… I’d see things that weren’t right, and he’d see things that were “good enough” his whole crew shared his mindset and wouldn’t even allow corrections to be made! I felt embarrassed to be part of that particular team…
The first contractor i worked for was like this. I knew some things were bad and when i voiced it, he would get upset. He was a low ball bidder so everything needed to be done yesterday.There were times where he had me do things beyond my scope. For example one time he had me basically re do most of the plumbing in the house. I can hook up vanities and toilets, etc, just fine but this was too much. I told him i didnt feel comfortable with it but he pressured me into it. Overall i did pretty well but i had a couple of issues with venting that didnt pass incpection. The boss made me fix the errors which took me about half a day. He refused to pay me for this saying he wasnt paying me to fix my own mistakes. When you rush, you make mistakes. Of course the GC was rarely on site so my coworker and I got quite a bit of a tongue lashing and it was very uncomfortable showing up day after fay knowing the home owner hates my guts and asking me all kinds of questions i didnt have answers for.
I quit that job after about a year and worked for a GC that was an architect by trade. His crew was much more professional. His pricing was almost double what my former boss had but he made sure everything was done properly.
I am in a similar situation with a small framing crew. They don't care about quality one bit. I don't know how the houses we built passes the inspection but it does.
I was in a similar situation during the Great Recession. Working for a complete hack on a big renovation. Nothing was done right and he wouldn’t let you fix anything. We also didn’t have the right materials, which is why so many things were just hacked together. He kept trying to use materials that he scrounged together.
I did a complete master bathroom with tile that was just scraps he was saving from years of work.
Times were tough, so I stuck it out for a couple months until I found something better.
And I did all this for $15/hr.
It sucked.
"Looks Good from my House" I too worked with a bunch of layabouts for a time. Might the worst job I ever had
Don't lend your name or effort to hacks. Have some dignity.
As a painter I get real great looks at everything, and I'm usually the last or second to last in a new home. I always point out things like this to the homeowners, especially when the builder/laborers try to steal my tools.
We should bring back the punishment by dis arming people for stealing someone’s tools. Grinds my gears. You shouldn’t need to steal if you’re in the trades.
I lose 100% respect for anyone in the trades stealing tools. Just a total bitch move. Tends to be tweakers.
Me too.im a huge fucking RAT.
Tile guy 25 years who points out piss poor prepping and all the laziness and corners cut by thier other poor ethics having tradesmen .I always give the homeowner the breakdown of how poor prepping effects my finished tile installations🤷♂️
Painters are always the last ones out of a project. So many times we get blamed for jacked framing, jacked finishing, jacked everything, just because we have to be there at the final owner walk stage and become the scape goat.
So your a snitch. Lol and what tools do painters have to steal. No one wants your crusty ass brush. JK jk.
My blood pressure was rising as you walked through that disaster. My head exploded when I saw the second floor bathroom.
This is so damn infuriating; and the icing on the cake is that the home owner likely wont get a penny back from that jackass.
Well, that's how you learn, LOL.
That job is not just bad contractors, that's bad "homeowners" as well. Tell them straight up to give you the plans in writing on day one and tell them not to talk to you until it's finished. Those people definitely kept changing their minds
@@macbook802 What Mac said. That "contractor" got way too much completed. He should have been found out during the rough-in phase.
@@macbook802homeowners are allowed to have input on their build. If these homeowners had stayed out than this contractor would have completed and never been kicked off.
My parents built a home recently, and financed it themselves, and even financing it themselves if they had not corrected them many steps along the way they would be living with so many more issues than they are.
You cannot give contractors full reign. There is too much unaccountability. You must be involved every step of the way, or just build it yourself. Building a home is a shit venture.
The big problem is that the contracting industry for residential building has no incentive to provide good service to their clients because the vast vast majority of their clients will only be their client once. Why provide good service if you never need to convince someone to be a repeat customer? Once they sign a contract they’re yours to fuck as you please. It’s a shit industry
Guy was a "real estate investor". Which in my experience means he doesn't know anything about construction but loves a low ball bid like a fat kid loves cake. And this job has "low ball bid by rookie"written all over it. So he got what he paid for.
I’ve been reluctant to buy for… well… ever. Stories like these are what hold me back. Appreciate you confirming my bias!
This looks like a “get it done quick and cheap so I can flip it” job. I would bet the owner intended to spend as little as possible, as it’s obvious they weren’t on site at anytime. If they were that contractor would have been kicked off by day two and never allowed to even come close to finishing.
Yep I blame the owner. Job is too far done. I would have fired them after the first issue. Not tenth.
Agreed, This is a flip house.
Def. Cheap floors and cabinets...the floors all.mismatched. usually when u get a contractor they send the cheapest people possible in.
@@aldod3937 i men the cabinets at all differen theights. But I agree the owners were never on site or was a lady/person who was afraid of conflict. My aunt had her basement done by a hack too. He decided he didnt like the paint colour my aunt picked and painted it a different colour .... lol I would have fired the guy on the spot.
Yep, a flip house...
Look on the bright side, the bathroom was a work of art. When guests uses the bathroom, they can ponder about the mysteries of it :)
😂
A light fixture in the shower.
@@Landis_Grant nothing like a thrilling shower session " Am I going to be shocked?"
@@Mj-th7md My shitt rental apartment has a dangly light bulb with the wiring hanging about 10 cm's out of the ceiling in the bathroom lol.. Sometimes I wonder how I'm still alive when I look up at the light after a hot shower and see the moist air gently coddling the exposed wiring lol.
This is unreal. You need to share the bases of these people so nobody else gets screwed over.
Its obvious what happened here. The homeowner took the lowest bid and got mad when they got what they paid for.
"Good labor isn't cheap. Cheap labor isnt good"
I couldn't have said it better myself..
Even the lowest bid should only be less expensive materials. They should still be installed correctly.
@@LeisureLivin207 Key word SHOULD be done correctly
@@LeisureLivin207 😂🤣 that’s never true. Lowest bidder uses cheaper labor and cheaper materials. Get what you pay for
I would understand the lowest bid comment if the lowest bid is significantly lower than the other bids. The bids should have been competitive and if one bid is way low it should be thrown out.
"Real Estate Investor". There's your first red flag. I run like hell from these fools. It's their own fault jobs turn out like this, their budgets are usually not in line with what they want to do. These are the results.
Absolutely. No major work for some aspiring real estate mogul. Small jobs only and I charge a premium for those. A drywall repair here, a faucet installed there, that type of stuff.
As a real estate investor, this isn't true for all.. Certainly many of them, but I go above and beyond on my remodels to make them at least as good as I would want to live in myself. Every thing about this job in this video would have been a huge no. "Real estate investors" like these give everyone a bad name.
Lol what's wrong with investing in real estate
@@AbeNomiks LOL if you know what your doing, nothing. The vast majority of Real Estate Inverstors have no idea what they are doing when it comes to repairs or remodeling. That's the problem.
Im so glad i bought my house from an original owner, elderly lady who paid top dollar for every handy man or remodel she had done to the property over 30years. No wft moments or asinine fixes.
this reminds me of my own home, me and my fiancé are redoing everything and by looking at everything under a magnifying glass you can for sure see that everything was DIY. Luckily we already planned on redoing everything so it doesn't matter too much to us! They built our pantry on top of the deck 😅
Contractor: “ Sure, I can do your $100k remodel for $30k”
Cheap work ain’t good and good work ain’t cheap.
$100,000 was my guess, too.
Bingo
@cavanwacker you have to let go one huh
@cavanwacker Inexpensive and quality work for me. I don't mind if it's slow.
You can get it cheaper hiring individuals to do the work. General contractors charge a premium for doing it all. But you can get a 100k job for much cheapee hiring a plumber to do the plumbing. Carpenter for the cabinets, electrician for the lights. It’s stressful and takes longer, but MUCH cheaper!
I am a remodeling and repair carpenter. I have worked for several "turn key" companies. I have seen so much of this s***t that it makes me sick to my stomach. People do this and get paid and bragged on while I get critized for being to slow and costly.
Be yourself
My husband and I hired a man to redo our bathroom, he was recommended to us by a really nice guy who does fantastic handy work himself. Well our bathroom guy was slow and a little pricey but man his work is impeccable!You get what you pay for, and I’m willing to pay more and get it done right the first time.
Anyway thank you for having pride in your workmanship and doing your job right for your customers, we need more people like you guys.
I can't stop Laughing, Thanks. That toilet is so well placed. A modern Art piece. Lol.
Every time a see one of these videos it makes me glad I’m doing the work on my house myself. Even though it takes much longer, since I’m doing it in my free time it is worth it because at least I’m doing it right.
I bet you this "real estate investor" never once checked up on the house when work was being done. Asking for it.
Oh it's 100% a real estate investor that flips houses. You get what you pay for, now you have to pay to fix it. Which they may just say screw it and sell it tbh
I can't tell you the number of times when I was a manager at Lowes the people who came in calling themselves contractors. I wouldn't trust them to build a birdhouse let alone a complete reno job. If their client was out of earshot from them, I would pull them aside to warn them .
Yup. I'm in building materials and it's always funny when those "contractors" ask us how to install something or how much of something they need.
No offense, but if someone is taking serious building advice from a hardware store employee I wouldn’t trust either of them. Every time I’ve asked for help I’ve gotten some quick answer that never helps, and I sit in the store googling my answer. The only thing I’d ask the employee is what aisle an item is. Not how to build somethjng
@@daaneel I used to work at Lowes and alot of the guys at my store that worked in specific departments were retired contractors or guys that had a fulltime job related to the department they worked part time in, they really knew their stuff.
@@jackmeriustacktheritrix depends who’s there. Some are like that. Others just working a retail job. I’ve never gotten a good answer out of the ones I’ve asked though. Usually an “idk” and a shrug
@@daaneel Well, this WAS close to 30 years ago. Times have definitely changed at places like Lowe's and Home Depot....so, no offense taken
I remember working in with a guy that installed tiles and counters with all kinds of material and the amount of BS he'd pull to get the job done was crazy. I still remember this lovely old retired couple wanting a counter because the wife wanted something pretty for her kitchen sink and the husband was one of those "yes, do it guys!! I know you'll get it done" type of care free individuals, both were retired and I guess the wanted to splurg some expenses. We finish one part and when it came to the little counter it somehow had a 2 1/2 inch gap that was such and eyesore, the guy I worked with jammed some cardboard and filled the rest with caulk and told the guy that that was the only course of action. I felt so bad for the guy who hired this hack and tagging along was this 17 year old who couldn't put in any opinions. The guy even bought us jersey Mike's subs. How you gonna do that to a retired 60 year old who went out and bought you jersey Mike's? I quit like 4 after because the loser wasn't paying on time
I would have quit based on the quality, or lack thereof, of workmanship from the owner. He seems like the type to rush through a job to keep checks coming, but reputation is crucial in this business.
If I were you, I’d go back to the retired couple and offer to repair the job for free or the cost of materials. Then, they’ll likely recommend your work to other friends. That way you can establish your own reputation as a guy who stands behind his work.
@@JohnSmith-nh2xl I was just a 17 year old at the time. I wasn't really looking into the profession, though it does make good money especially if you're skilled, because it was just a summer job my uncle got me to just have money. Trust me, if I was in this profession I would've redone everything for them at no cost and another jersey Mike's lunch, they were good people. You're also right about the guy taking jobs for the quick check, the dude had like 4 other jobs he had on stand by prior to this one.
I'm so thankful my dad built houses and was an inspector for the city of New Orleans for over 30 years. And that I like older homes instead of new ones.
At first you are thinking, not too bad, then you see the kitchen, ok that’s really bad, then you get to the bathroom, wow, that’s unbelievable.
Good work is all about the details, which were all missed here.
Plot twist. This started as a DIY and the homeowner is too embarrassed to take responsibility, so created fictitious "contractor" to blame
Yep that's what happened. The inspector came and start asking questions and the inspector saying Some mean stuff about whoever did the work made The DIY owner/person feel real bad of himself/herself and then made a made-up story of a contractor shaking my head. Some people just don't want to take responsibility
@@javiemma1432 there always has to be one asshole that goes out of his way to try and shit on someone else's day
This guy said he worked with the general contractor already in the beginning of the video
@@sauercrowder are you serious? If so, you either didn't read my comment the right way, or don't understand that I was implying
@@joe1071 I think you're the one who's confused... The guy recording the video isn't the homeowner, he's an electrical contractor. He starts the video saying he was working with a bad GC and that the homeowner asked for his help finding another one.
Skilled labor is not cheap, cheap labor is not skilled.... Have seen a lot of bad work in my time. This is up there in the top 20 hall of fame.
I’m a commercial engineer I do extremely heavy duty commercial electrical,plumbing,gas and steam work in major settings like MGM properties,major hospitals and manufacturing I was even at the World Trade Center for many years until 2001 obviously and I will tell you this much Finished carpentry like this is an absolute art form. If you get a guy who doesn’t know what he’s doing it will show in the finished product. I’ve got a ton of respect for guys who can do this professionally.
Title of video:
*"OWNER MAKING A VIDEO VERTICALLY"*
😬😬😬
FIRED...
😱🤣
Wow! Decades ago, me and a friend use to kid around and state, "If we can walk across it, we can caulk it!" That contractor took that phrase literally.
Clearly no longer has pride in their work. Imagine the stress of having to convince a customer "Oh no, this is to spec and finished, this is normal", everyones lives would be better doing things right the first time.
This is so sad. Thank you for recording and posting this educational video.
Ok as a DIYer I might cut some corners on my own house. But even I wouldn't have done this to myself, moreover to a paying customer while masquerading as a licensed GC. Edit - ok I died when I saw the toilet
i love the literally unreachable cabinets in the corners and ABOVE THE FRIDGE, the random and MASSIVE gaps, and the pseudo brick wall just... ending on the right hand kitchen wall. like it just stops randomly right in the middle of that little wall section.
beautiful
I blame the owner. This job is too far done; as an owner, even if you dont live at the site, you should go by everyday and view the work. Take pics. If you dont live near by, hire someone to go, or have the contractor send pics. Detailed pics.
The owner should definitely keep an eye to make sure quality work is happening. But you can’t blame the owner for doing shitty ass work.
You’d like to think the owner would have caught some of these hacks as they were happening before it got that far, however I’m a cabinet builder for over 30 years and to this day customers will sometimes complain about the design of the cabinets to which they have had a detailed drawing of for months, bottom line is even if you know the contractor or builder the owner has to be involved or this is the shit that happens, unfortunately over 30 years I’ve seen it happen time and time agiain. Some customers are so detached from the project sometimes and just let whoever do whatever until it’s too late.
Take pictures, every single day and profession that's onsite.
Then what? Ive seen this situation already. What happens is the contractor might get a light slap on the wrist. Usually, if you want to get a contractor off the job, all of the work they have already done now has no warranty. So now when the hackjob they did breaks, its gonna be an expensive fix. There are no rules or laws to protect the homeowner in these situations, but many to protect the contractor. Usually the homeowner has to deal with the bullshit all the way through. Thats what happened at a job I was at. Thats the one that made me truly realize how disgusting construction can be at times. Got my ass out of that sector after that.
My fiance and I just bought a house and this is literally the kind of work that was in the house....we were stupid and didn't look as closely as we should have and we were kind of rushed out of the house during our walk through, but oh well, we're making the best of it and it doesn't look too bad after a few improvements
this is why we not buying a house at this time, you guys def overpaid for a rushed job, especially since these workers are being pushed to their limit, you'll have plenty of more work to do to the house before you ever see any kind of money that you invested in it back.
@@deejvalde437 You can always hire a professional inspector with a good reputation to look for things like this as well as other issues
@@ShockwaveZero if you've done shopping then you would know the time restrains that sellers were putting on people, there were other suckers out there for them to buy prematurely.
@@deejvalde437 you can still get a good home inspection done even given the current climate and time restraints
@@deejvalde437 how do u know when they bought it?
LMFAO this reminds me of my DIY projects I would do after work. Shout out to the real professionals who clean up my messes.
As a GC, I’m rewatching this over and over to learn from people’s mistakes and to be keen to detail! Good lord!
If you're a GC there's nothing to learn here.
Can you imagine how many excellent general contractors this dude took work from.
I would look at it as how many poor customers this guy has saved good contractors from. This is not competition, this is just filtering out bad leads.
Not many after the work he puts forth is seen.. there are things as reviews.. reviews get out there and you can’t control it.. do your research before hiring
@@PJJ196 Fake reviews, New company name, That is what these scammers do. Many people do their homework and still get ripped off. I deal with the aftermath all the time.
@@alphaviews4639 100% fake reviews are scummy.. it’s important for the reviewer platform to monitor the reviews posted by the account.. if an account posts like all bad reviews you know that person has bad intentions.. if there is only 1 then you know something is up.. so yeah it’s definitely an issue
Excellent contractors are always busy and would not take work from this type of customer. This isn't a big deal to them.
Well this certainly makes me feel a lot better about my DIY bathroom reno that only has a few crooked tiles in the shower.
I was a GC for 40 yrs and a mess like this happens when you get a GC that 1) can't read blueprints and 2) hires the cheapest subtrades possible to try and maximize his profit margin. For a good GC, reading blueprints is as familiar as reading the morning paper and a good GC has a list of tried and true subtrades whose work he trusts implicitly. When you fail to plan, you plan to fail.
I think the blame is definitely on both sides here. The "GC" is taking on more then they can handle. Great video tho. As a Handyman myself I often run into clients that want me to do bigger jobs then I'm comfortable with and I also say no. I can only imagine the stress of the issues on the job and not knowing how to counter them. This is a case of the helper being the lead.
I am a handyman as well i get that all the time i assume its since we cost alot less than a GC that we might as well do that too but like you said the stress isn't really worth it but say safe out there
I don't think so. He just didn't care or know what he was doing.
I have been a Handyman for 10+ years. I also see this type of "finished" work and asked to repair it. I have one simple reply to anyone asking me to do a large job like this or repair a job like this... "JUST BECAUSE I CAN DOES'NT MEAN I SHOULD" I walk away from these jobs all the time. Some things cannot be fixed.. they need to be removed and started over again. Customers do not want to hear that and there is always a pandora's box hidden somewhere waiting to be found.
@@918scott4 well said well written and the pandoras box of WTF just like you i see it all the time
I keep a handyman's business cards for whenever Homeowners or random people from the neighborhood ask me to do small handyman jobs.
Hahahah. OMG this definitely wins the worst contractor award! I may have nightmares now.
As a kitchen cabinet designer/salesman, that whole range/ref section made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up.
I feel absolutely horrible for the client, but that was some hilariously funny shit 😂
YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR !!! Going with a cheap contractor means you get cheap or bad work done !!! Then you have to pay a second contractor to re-do the work correctly !!! Which means it cost you 3 times as much had you paid for a good contractor !!! Because the second contractor has to tear-out and buy new materials to re-do the job correctly !! But always get at least a minimum of 3 different contractor bids or estimates or more ! So you can sort through those high priced or over priced contractors to find a good but reasonably priced contractor . Make sure you get EVERYTHING in writing , right down to every possibility and every part , screw and etc. !!
I've tried tiling my basement bathroom, framing a room in my attic and installing some light fixtures. I noticed I'm not very good. This is a great example of someone like me deciding to start a contracting business because there is potential money to be made. Have some self awareness
Thank you for sharing and yeah this kind of mistakes are not acceptable, thank to this i can imagine how complete this job need to be
I love the bell siphon drain
God, Man!!! I am sorry this happened to ya. What a hack, that toilet install had me cracking up though.
That was someone that watched a season of Flip this House and bought a shit load of tools and went to work. Holy fuck that is really bad! I have had to fix shit behind assholes like this way too many times, it's easier to do it right!!
My friends and I rented an apartment with shoddy work like this. We didn't know what to check for since it was our first time renting and after living there more problems rose from bad work and the same bad contractor came and 'fixed' it.
Not enough space for the fridge and a huge gap for the stove made me laugh 😂😂
I agree with Jimmy..
That is what you get when you cheap out but still expect perfection.. get real people.. you get what you pay for..
I tell people that there are 3 types of jobs
Good fast and cheap
If its good it not fast or cheap
If its fast it not good or cheap
If its cheap its not good or fast
it can be fast good and not expensive... thats just a stereotype
@@tacticalteddy5556 I've heard that you can pick any two among good, fast, or cheap. But not all three.
Omg that is really sad for the home owner but it is going on everywhere.
This is most likely the homeowners fault for taking some tweaker low price on the project.
First thing I look for down here in the sunshine state is the left front quarter panel of the truck should have black writing that starts with CFC
This is the kind of work the majority of house flippers and corporate owned rental properties perform.
Yeah, the apartments I've lived in have been varying degrees of acceptable but somehow the new apartment I'm living in is one of the worst in terms of finish. I've lived in 30 year old places with broken heaters but at least everything fit together and the floors were installed properly. The quality of work in this 2 year old apartment complex makes it seem shittier than those aged 80s buildings in many aspects. Here the floor boards separate, the floors in the laundry section are dented and awful, the edges of the walls are wobbly, etc etc. I'm not paying a cheap price but it's clear this thing was made with the absolute cheapest labor and the cheapest materials. Newer buildings generally seem to suffer from this too -- it's like the cheap plastic shit from overseas attitude is applied to our buildings now. You need to be awfully wealthy to have something that isn't cheap as hell, and even then people are probably getting fleeced.
Having GC issues at the moment and searching for videos of similar issues. This makes me feel better about my current situation. Wow...feel so bad for this owner.
This is absolutely hilarious for someone who isn't going to live there. I have no formal background in construction, just what I've learned from youtube. My basement bathroom that I remodeled as the GC looks better, and is more efficient use of space than that bathroom. Sure, my drywall job would be better if I hired someone, but it was free besides materials.
man this GC is not just bad, he's downright hazardous
As a laborer myself I try not to talk bad about others work in the trades, knowing I could have work they talk bad about also. But this is just ridiculous, no thought at all. Just moving material around to waste it.
A disgrace all around, but the owner needs to own some of the responsibility on this. As the person paying, you are responsible for verifying and setting terms, conditions, schedules, and a realistic set of expectations. Timelines and contracts are there to protect the homeowner as well as to protect the contractor.
This needs saying much more often... the buyer / customer needs to be pro-active in projects like this.... and DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE folks ! 🙄
Have a contract to protect you AND the contractor..
Use word-of-mouth from trusted sources & see their work quality BEFORE signing contracts...
Pay in stages... (inspection at end of each agreed stage... )
Educate yourself !!
Learn to spot bad workmanship... plenty of vids on that... 😌
If people were more discriminating in who they employ to do work for them, there would be less cowboys like those in this vid... 😕
Idk about setting the schedules, and nothing excuses them installing poorly and doing simple measurements wrong.
100% youre the contractor that did this
Sooo...the owner not only needs to do all of that while being the one paying for all labor and materials, but they also have the threat of a lean getting put on their house in case things go wrong all around. No, the issue is that all the risk is on the homeowner, and none is on the contractor. How about as the people responsible for building the house, you should use the materials that you were paid and given the money to use, show up to the site when you say you will, not cut corners and do a hackjob when aomething goes wrong or a mistake was made, and lastly be transparent with the homeowner. Those simple expectations are often far too much it would seem and lead to many of the conflicts.
@@bibbayeet8007 what perfect world do you live in I wanna move there. Anyone that trusts a contractor to do a good job is a fool. A manager still works. They maintain the quality of the employees doing the job. You don’t tell them what to do and then just leave them to work… ever.
This reminds me of Stratton Renovation. They half-assed a renovation on a house I ended up buying and I had to discover all the issues post inspection as you can't tear open walls during a walkthrough.
2:44 that trim is a take on a modern shadow line with a 3/4 inch reglet behind it, perfect for the baseboard to tuck right in behind it LOL
this looks like if I had done all this work for the first time on a project week....and even i still wouldnt have messed up the bathroom that bad 😂😂😂
I am just a DIYer but watching you open that vanity and seeing the loopdeeloop got me. Even I know S traps are a no go now days, and the trim over the trim, and the tiny person toilet were all insane. Painters tape left on the ceiling still there is a mark of someone that must really take pride in their work.....
I real painter wouldn't have taped the ceiling.
I could never let work go this far without seeing how it’s going
Speechless. I wouldn't want any part of trying to sort through that mess.
I like that trim over trim look. All the shadows add depth to the room. I like that the guy knew enough to leave a reveal along the door casing but didn't know enough to cut the wall trim to match the door trim. I'm guessing they used the 2" shower drain for the toilet and didn't want to spend the time to move it. You can't even get a 2" toilet flange (thank God) at home depot so I wonder what is under that children's toilet.
I can agree this is an awful job, but I will state that with LVP you don't need a transition in the doorway. Even with a laminate, it isn't necessary.
I think he said that because 2 rooms had no transition but one did.
You only don't need a transition IF you continue laying the flooring and don't create a seam in the doorway.
The idea with transitioning between rooms is because you can only run so much distance without a break in the flooring, so when doing a hallway, the other rooms generally go over the maximum distance allowed without a transition. Alternatively, some customers want to retrofit carpet or another flooring style in different rooms and it makes it very convenient to just pull the transition out. Also sometimes we make mistakes and need to redo the flooring in a room this way you can easily work one room at a time.
@@edlingja1 I wouldn't know, but I think you could just add a transition later, if you need to repair something, or put carpet in.
This is the house that Springfield build with love to The Flanders.
Oh My God, this is so beautiful
As a man of the trade I’m heart broken to see people get stuck with work of this caliber. Hope they get everything fixed up.
I doubt you’re heart broken my guy
No caliber here haha
I am literally gutted and grieving, please send your well wishes
There's cheap, fast and good. You can only pick two, and you can only have two! This applies to almost everything in life, but especially the trades lol.
Great quote! Good, fast or cheap, pick one. Then it is opposite for the other two options. You can also use this explanation as well. Say you want the job to be good, it will not be fast, and it won't be cheap. If you want the job to be fast, it won't be good, and it would be expensive.......and so on.
When you make an estimate for a customer, know in your mind that it is a fair price competitively and the work will look fantastic in the end. That is the type of work I do! Have a nice day!
@@dmb1995ta if youre good at a job usually that means you get it done better and faster then most.
Saw a sign saying this at a mechanic's shop who was neither cheap, fast, nor good. Sometimes you get 0/3.
I've always said this but different. " they want it done well, they want it done now and they want it done cheap but I can only do 2 of the three" I work with cars though
Always a triangle
This usually happens when the client takes ridiculously cheap quotes. Recently was involved in a renovation where the client decided to hire his friend to plaster it for 300 euros. He ruined the entire apartment. We warned the client that it wasn't an easy job and his friend didn't know what he was doing before he started, and the client went ahead with it anyway. Now he's got plaster and corner profiles all falling off his walls, as well as some of the roughest work I've ever seen. The whole plaster needs stripping off and redoing.
Love the toilet placing
Damn, I know it may take skill and knowledge to do that stuff well and efficient, but it doesn't take rocket science to at least see that something visually isn't right
A real contractor would have shyed away from that place ,too many weird ass things going on with the layout of everything to make it look good even if it was done right
Yeah whats up with the bathroom ceiling on a slant haha
I know what you mean; another commenter mentioned that this was probably a house-flipping "real estate investor" scheme gone hilariously bad.
I can't be certain, but the house reminds me of a type that's found on the north side of my town. They were small, 2-bed/1-bath hovels, cheaply-built in the first place, and grandfather-ed from a lot of modern building codes. Previous owners often made modifications without getting permits, so you'd have compounding generations of shoddy work.
That upstairs bathroom is meant to be a bedroom. Those types of houses weren't designed to support a 2nd-floor bathroom. The tall window & slanted wall only make sense in that context. The window looks relatively new for the house; I'm guessing the contractor didn't want to take it out to put in a more suitable one and contend with all the interior/exterior requirements for the install, or restructure the 2nd floor to properly accommodate a bathroom. Either way, they didn't want to do the work that would've made this house liveable, but make it look "trendy" enough for a listing, and foist it onto some sucker willing to pay for a "4-bed/2-bath" shitpile.
Yeah I see why they put the shower by the window, so that it wasn't exclusive to 5' tall people. And they put the toilet in that spot so you can sit on it without crouching. Some designer wasn't thinking of how low it gets under the roofs slope there. But they have to ask and they should probably put a little wass or something to cover that void space.
@@YandereDay I'm sure when it was originally designed the house wasn't meant to have plumbing up there,this was somebody who wanted a second bathroom in a single bathroom house.
As a carpenter, I can tell you this stems from two things:
#1: Underbidding/cheap job
#2: Boss thinking a two day job takes 15 minutes.
I literally laughed out loud when I saw that toilet 🤣 I feel for this client, I do. The scariest part by far was the bathroom. It makes you wonder what else is going on behind those walls. God speed my friend.
It really is amazing how *(#_@*ed-up that bathroom is, considering how it's twice as big as mine, and I also fit a washer and dryer into mine.
Not to mention the fact, that nobody was supposed to 'remodel' it, in the first place.
I was a temp, working for contractors, who came up from the South - on tight margins. They were installing a counter top at a hotel wedding room. For a wedding, the next day. They were all, temps do this, temps do that. Ok, all good. Then they started to cut and grind the granite table top, but they had the plans reverse. Too much cutting, now their dish stacker was too big. They literally had tears in their eyes.
I Felt so sad, for them when I left - but got my work order signed.
@1:48 “good times all around here” made me bust out laughing! You do not seamed amused at all😂, you seam to have great patience and control of your frustrations! You seam like a good person to work with! Keep doing your thing brother!
Edit, that toilet blew my mind hahah jeez it’s like the person had no care for safety and inspections.. let alone what’s convenient or practical! All that space behind that toilet is great!
'Seam' is spelled as Seem
Saving this
Found the seamus
I was a high end carpet installer for (way too many) years. Part of my pitch was always "I hope I'm not the lowest bidder, because I'm better than that guy. I sell value, not price."
We once spent what felt like hours just readjusting cabinets we put in solely because they had to be correct. There was no good enough. The only answer was the correct way. Pride in what you do goes a long way and clients notice that.
First question before even getting into all the other stuff. If there was an inspection done why the heck wasn't the framing inspected before the daggone drywall went up? That would have alleviated a lot of issues right off the top...
Gosh, whenever I look around my house and see minor errors here and there that bother me, I'll have to remind myself that it's literally some people's entire home, yikes. I can see a few mistakes and cover ups, we all can't be perfect but my gosh this is full on winging it without measuring tape.
This is like Homer Simpson lvl work. On the episode where the whole town builds Flanders a new house lol
As someone who works alongside contractors, this is far more common than you are aware. A lot of these "new" homes are put together with shotty materials. The house will look nice as you glance at it, but when you take a closer look, literally everything will be wrong. It will last a couple years and then things will fall apart.
Tried to hire numerous contractors, most never showed up for the bid, a couple places that gave estimates were BS artists, their price quote barely covered the cost of materials. Went with a recommended contractor to finish my kitchen. Throughout the job I questioned matters and called the owner, eventually they sent out another fella, who, after looking at what I was concerned about, took pics, called the boss and stated, "yeah, this is all wrong, we need to pull the cabinets and all the backsplash (chipped marble), 10 days became 10 weeks. Still not done with the house, but, because I'm doing it myself, I know it's being done correctly, and, it justified the purchase of many new tools which will be used for years. And, I didn't go with the lowest bid, I went with the most expensive... highlighting that you don't always get what you pay for.
🤣🤣🤣you finished fukin up ur house yet 😅🤣🤣 Honestly there is a alot of definition on done right if you want to pay fair market price learn to accept presentable and functionality if you would like human perfection come pay me 125hr should take me 2 months I will get it done for you.
You could start the rental bids at $4500 a month and go from there!😀 what an exciting quaint living space perfectly suited for a family! I see nothing wrong here!👍
Owner just needs it to look good enough for the rental listing and first pass walk through, just long enough to get someones name on the lease before they realize the place is a mess that will fall apart around them over the next year.
Wow….just wow….that’s next level.
That toilet got me
I am scared of contracting these days. When I need something done, I just hire whoever has worked on one of my neighbour's homes, and pay whatever they ask.
this is the way IMHO. My dad never had a bad handyman doing work in my house, everyone was a personal recomendation, or the relative of someone he knew, etc. You pay them well, offer them a drink or lunch even and you have a good contact for life