This was my thoughts exactly.. even if it was to slow down gameplay they could have accomplished this in many other ways by tweaking vendor stock, task rewards, loot tables, ect.
@@TastyDizaster they said they will have a way to repair stuff in the future, not just guns but armor/gear too (don't know if it's later seasons or could be this season but a later patch)
I think it's a form of stress testing is all, create the most extreme case scenario (in this case no repairing allowed) and see how it affects gameplay such as player choices on which guns to buy; example do you go with cheaper platforms to try and save money. They said long ago when they've mentioned durability that they plan on allowing us to be able to repair guns and even armor/gear in the future. That being said, there are only 2 things for me which is 1, I'm more likely to just not be able to get my original gun/gear back when I die in the first place so I've never had to worry about weapon degradation in the first place. The 2nd thing is just go farm the "Tier 3" or "highest tier" zones (Midnight Sapphire, Fort Narith and Tiger Bay) and, if you know where the loot boxes are in those 3 zones (same as last season) then you can get really good gear. Haven't had to buy too much of anything yet, hardly done any quests and already have 50k; and no I'm not really that good at the game I only play PVE and I honestly die a lot so I lose a lot of gear.
Half of me hates the idea of firearm and component durability, the other half understands where the devs were coming from. Just like armor, a gun and equipment gets in the way of bullets that are headed towards the player using them and are thus subject to be damaged in the firefight. However; the chance of actually having an unusable system after 3 or 4 of these encounters (ie: the player dying to AI/player damage) is remarkably low overall. Devs should implement a 3 stage durability mechanism: 1) armour, 2) firearm barrels/semi-auto uppers/suppressors, 3) attachments/equipment. 1) Armour needs to break more easily based on a scan of hits, once it is compromised (based on the ammo shot at it) the integrity of the armour needs to fall off fast. 2) Barrels, uppers, and suppressors need to have a round based lifespan, such that you are capable of swapping internals to expand the life of the system. Obviously scaling needs to be a thing and a good hard set point would be increasing .1 moa for every 1500-2000 rounds shot in semi-auto, .2 moa for every 1000 rounds shot in full auto, and 1 moa for every 500 rounds shot through bolt action. (No this is not realistic, but its a fair starting point to force players to focus on how many rounds they are sending down range). 3) Attachments like optics, nvg's, lasers, and lights need to have the option to be repaired (based on a cool down system that prevents spamming). Attachments like fore grips, rails, stocks, etc should degrade at 1/4 the speed they currently are.
That's the thing though shooting the gun doesn't really damage it. Unless you go through 10k rounds. And then maybe but if you do die I do see some scuff from falling in dirt or mud. So I get the idea. Just shooting the gun, it may last the whole campaign if you don't die
Glad more people are saying this. I thought weapon durability, when Madfinger talked about it originally before the update was going to be more like jams and misfires when the gun started to degrade, but not just a sliding scale. I don’t understand why this is in game at this moment because searching the map for cool components is useless if I can’t repair said components. I instead would love a menu option where I could just turn it off/on or give me options for how I wish to play. The rest of the game feels better to me. I love the AI taking cover but there are plenty of situations where I need to pump a few mags in before they die.yes, still early access but I want the night to be darker. Would love phases of the moon so it’s not always full.
You bring up very solid points that I didn't think of in regards to optics breaking, foregrips etc. As a firearm owner myself, your critiques make a lot of sense. 👍
I carried the same M4 + acog and every other part for 18 months in Afghanistan where firefights would happen daily, and not a single piece broke. We oiled and cleaned them....that's it. Stack this with the cost of new gear, and the fact that a lot of us repeatedly CTD after the path (very high end pc), where I log back in to find all of my kit is gone....I'm level 23 and completely broke. This needs a fix asap.
I agree. Being a firearms owner myself I’ve never broken anything optics or grips on my rifles 😂. I think they rushed it and it needs some major reworking. The only things that should have durability would the Bolt , barrel and buffer spring. Pretty much the only parts that need replacement. Makes no sense why an optic wears with the rest of the gun. Hopefully they change it
In the military M4 barrels are only replaced after 15,000 rounds. And often times more like 30,000 rounds. 9MM pistols also run about 15,000 rounds. M240 and .50 cal will be in the hundreds of thousands. All this is before major part replacements like barrels and receivers.
Totally agree with these points, there needs to be at the very minimum a way to repair these items, either paid from a vendor or with items we can find or something. I would also love to see weapon jams implemented based on the condition of the gun. That said regarding a gun breaking optics and such, the SCAR is notorious for this, but in general not something that most guns will do.
It should be like Tarkov : each weapon has 1 ''core'' part and the durability bar is actually only that ''core'' durability bar. once its out, you can buy another ''core'' (or just buy a new basic gun, strip it down to take the core and replace it to your gun) :D
They didn't use the word durability when they were doing the weekly patch meetings on their live sessions. They used the word maintenance which made it seems like we would be able to maintain guns cleans and repair weapons. Just one more of the things they deceived the players about ( ai going to sleep, keys appearing on tables not on soldiers)
lmao they did state that there will be a way to fix and repair both weapons and armor in a later update, The AI do "go to sleep" I have noticed a smaller number of enemies in an area during night raids, Keys do in fact spawn on tables and soldiers and their spawn rate is quite higher then last patch. almost like you didnt even play the game.
Should have just had us use the cash we find quite literally everywhere now to just pay the vendor to repair it. Hell even if they didn't even add a system where you can save a custom gun loadout and then just buy THAT from the vendor. Would save time instead of having to catalogue and remember every part you were using.
I mean, it's still early access. This is the first of probably 6 updates before it's considered out. So it's building the foundation brick by brick. If it continues like this though, I can see why this would be a problem
Exactly my thougths mate. Also the income / money system need to rework. AK worth 30 dollar so we not hoarding, but at lvl 10 have 6 AKs, 5 m4s and 45k dollar to work with. All the next missions going to give me m4 with spectre and on... I'm rich after 1 hours, only thing what holds me back is gunny and vendor levels...
@@chiyeti me and my friend we play PvE only atm and did not lost what can i say 5-10 set of gear max under 100+ hrs. There is 0 fear for gearloss for us who plays pve as you have this much money.
I believe it’s an incentive to use more weapons and look for loot to sell which will mean more play time? Maybe that was the thought process for this system?
To be honest those holo sights do, overtime, break from shooting, specially from how strong the gun kicks, but in general we are talking about some thousands of shots. The same goes to the weapon, parts start to wear, jams happen more often. I mean if you don't put some effort into cleaning and mantaining it. You know, weapons have a certain ammount of rounds they can go before having to have a full on inspection. The M4's barrel should whistand around 6k to 8k rounds before you start thinking about changing that barrel/receiver for your own safety, as it could lead to a catastrophic failure. Damage and wear is unavoidable in real life, and we will never ever get some sensible parts like the barrel back to it's factory standard full life. That said, I like the system, make us spend some money, try new things, but it is super crude indeed hahahah. But I wish parts would wear at different paces and we could use some maintenance kits like oil and cleaning rags to reduce the wear ticks, even changing batteries for the sights could be a thing. And to be honest spending some hours putting the things on the table, dissasembling it and smelling the gunpowder and oil is almost like calming ritual, like drinking a good cup of coffee. lol I would not mind doing that in the game too.
You know that during developement(as former designer) I called that as bullshit but certain person pushed it anyway without knowing shit about weapons.
Totally agree. It is ridiculous how fast the equipment degrades. It is a rushed implementation for sure...and after 6 months to get this patch out I expected better. Contemplating putting GZW on the back burner for another 6 months.
Multiple issues, disability with no repair system, red dot and scope brightness control, the NV goggles are trash. “Oh they’re so realistic” BS. I have a pair, and they are 10x clearer than how they chose to represent them. I love the thought of this game but I’m with you. Wtf have they even been working on?
They should have never implemented the durability system for the weapons until they add the necessary things to repair them. Its honestly a bit goofy tbh
Your contrast/gamma settings are wrong. I had the same issue. Night ops works fine. They've improved it even since you've played. The durability system isn't finished yet. It's an early version. It's still an alpha, not even a beta. No reason to critique it yet.
i have 20 hours, at level 6 now and i have yet needed to buy anything from any vendor at all however my gear is at like 50% and my helmet is at 2% so stuff like reload speed is affected (okay i get it) but also recoil handling (in what world does that make sense?) and it feels so weird not being able to clean my gun to make it last longer, and the eotech, the lower, etc. lose durability...at all? i would prefer it to be more realistic than anything, and make the actually hard things come from differing areas instead i guess it's a pre-alpha
Lol tanky AI is an understatement I ran into 3 invincible AI over 4hrs yesterday. 1 of them I put 40 mosin rounds in his head and about another 40 in his chest, swapped to an AK and put 3 mags into him and he just kept shooting back.. Quality Gameplay lol
@@Geniy_B_Kvadrate_XD_ua like i stated in my reply about 40 rounds in the head and then tried 40 to the chest with a mosin. wouldn't die lol then tried the M4 and emptied 3 mags into him and still nothing
I'm pretty sure it's some sort of glitch/bug and my guess is that it's a "visual" glitch. The AI have a new 3rd reaction besides random zig zagging or standing there like a target dummy, the third is they will actually run for cover and those AI that do that, they like to constantly transition from one place of cover to another. Sometimes it's buggy and when they do this, they move super fast, if they're doing that, you know they're glitched. Like they will move way faster than normal and even their animations are sped up. Even if they're not moving and they are standing still and start shooting at you, they're still glitched. I don't think they are actually where you see them in game because when I have seen the AI doing that sped up movement, if they ever stop to shoot at me, I'll see their avatar in one location but I'll see the muzzle flash come from another location (where their avatar isn't currently at) that looks like it would be an obvious and decent cover location (they typically use walls or boxes). When you shoot the "visible" avatar, they will flinch as if they take damage but they won't die. I see this often at Midnight Sapphire.
@RiverSloth yea that sounds fairly plausible, the AI that was invincible was running to cover a lot and definitely flinching when getting shot. Didn't notice the muzzle flash coming from a different location though, however I wasn't keeping my head out long enough to tell lol
Like for real, what's the point of adding nvgs if literally the whole map is lit up with street lights and house lights. Where are these people getting electricity from in an abandoned country???
I agree, the game is (still?) a bit unfinished and according to the developers, development is continuing. That is also the reason why I am still optimistic. As one commenter already said, there may be weapon maintenance. So I would currently see this system as a kind of placeholder and hope that development continues for some time, if not even a 1.0 version can be released, because many systems have turned out very well so far.
Yep the nvgs are weird,i dont know but they really hard boasting with nvgs :D how real they look,well dont thing,nvgs in game looks like from wish,i know there is different types,but still,basic military nvg dont look that blury,maybe in 2005 :D
Dont really see the problem - its an attempt to build a gameplay cycle, so players can't just keep using that one good rifle. And with the current loot drop rate, there is ample opportunity to run various setups and replace the parts that are worn down. The realism argument (which I have seen many places besides here) is nonsensical. In the medical system, you can perform lung surgery (even on yourself) for 15 seconds to completely cure a bullet hole. Don't see anyone complaining over that.
My biggest issue with the game is the performance. It's so awful. Even on a 3080, R7 5800X3D & 32GB DDR4 RAM I average like 50-60fps. On low/medium 1440p.
while I see your reasoning behind your video, I dont understand it. the "durability" also changes the way the weapon looks (adding scratching and general use marks), so from my understanding is that you dont want the site or the stock to get scratches and look used, just the barrels? Also the time it takes to wear a weapon down from 100% you have easily made 10X what you need to make a new one. This was to give the items life and force players to have to get new gear throughout their time in game or buy it if they did not get lucky enough. It has given me the opposite effect, I actually have a reason to play late game now once I have a full stash I wount feel like I should not pick up anymore gear. Last patch late game I was only running around hitting cash registers to money, and that was just to see how much money I could farm.
I personally, and I don’t want you to take this as me taking anything you are saying for granted, could care less about the appearance of a weapon in an EA title. I care about function over fashion in this case. Weapons looking worn is a cool idea as they get used and we see it in a lot of other titles, but the functionality of the system has to make sense to appreciate the other aspects of it. At least this is my opinion. I can respect your take on it as well and do appreciate some of the love they’ve put behind these.
@@chiyeti That is fair but it also the current system in an EA title is fine, especially since we know there will be additions later to compensate for this. For all we know they wanted to add a way to fix your weapon but keeps the overall wear to the "skin" may currently not be working like intended so they are holding off on it. I just feel this system gives late game more of a reason to play rather than just having the same M4 for months.
8000 rounds per barrel? Most are rated for tens (if not a hundred) thousand rounds. But yeah this system makes 0 sense. Mind you I think this is just early access, so in my opinion, just a basic system to get refined down the road. (We all really hope) Constantly loosing money on selling guns is plain dumb, as early game earning money is somewhat slow to begin with .
I don't like this system. I've had the same rifle for years, and it still functions perfect. I get batteries for NVG or light/laser, but kind of sucks. armor and gear sure.
Aside from the degradation system being stupid, unwanted and unrealistic it completely negates the changes to the economy players requested. Players brought up issues in the economy and running out of money after questing stops. Devs confirmed it and added high value loot as a way to offset. So why simultaneously add a "system" for us to needlessly dump money into. No one quit the game because there wasn't a day night cycle. Tens of thousands quit because of bad AI. The decisions this company makes are baffling. Madfinger games please start streaming your production meetings, they surely have to be absolute comedy.
Whoever ok’d adding durability without having a repair system is an idiot. Also I own BNVDs in white phosphor and you can’t see through the scopes in game with nods… but in irl all I have to do is adjust the diopter on the back of the scope and boom it’s crystal clear, so whatever “experts” they paired up with on night vision need to be kicked to curb for telling them you can’t see though a scope.
Should have never implemented the durability aspect without a way to repair weapons.
This was my thoughts exactly.. even if it was to slow down gameplay they could have accomplished this in many other ways by tweaking vendor stock, task rewards, loot tables, ect.
I can't think of a single game that has a degradation system with no way to manage it.
@@TastyDizaster they said they will have a way to repair stuff in the future, not just guns but armor/gear too (don't know if it's later seasons or could be this season but a later patch)
I think it's a form of stress testing is all, create the most extreme case scenario (in this case no repairing allowed) and see how it affects gameplay such as player choices on which guns to buy; example do you go with cheaper platforms to try and save money.
They said long ago when they've mentioned durability that they plan on allowing us to be able to repair guns and even armor/gear in the future. That being said, there are only 2 things for me which is 1, I'm more likely to just not be able to get my original gun/gear back when I die in the first place so I've never had to worry about weapon degradation in the first place. The 2nd thing is just go farm the "Tier 3" or "highest tier" zones (Midnight Sapphire, Fort Narith and Tiger Bay) and, if you know where the loot boxes are in those 3 zones (same as last season) then you can get really good gear. Haven't had to buy too much of anything yet, hardly done any quests and already have 50k; and no I'm not really that good at the game I only play PVE and I honestly die a lot so I lose a lot of gear.
@@TastyDizaster farcry 2 off the top of my head 🤷♂️
Half of me hates the idea of firearm and component durability, the other half understands where the devs were coming from.
Just like armor, a gun and equipment gets in the way of bullets that are headed towards the player using them and are thus subject to be damaged in the firefight. However; the chance of actually having an unusable system after 3 or 4 of these encounters (ie: the player dying to AI/player damage) is remarkably low overall.
Devs should implement a 3 stage durability mechanism: 1) armour, 2) firearm barrels/semi-auto uppers/suppressors, 3) attachments/equipment.
1) Armour needs to break more easily based on a scan of hits, once it is compromised (based on the ammo shot at it) the integrity of the armour needs to fall off fast.
2) Barrels, uppers, and suppressors need to have a round based lifespan, such that you are capable of swapping internals to expand the life of the system. Obviously scaling needs to be a thing and a good hard set point would be increasing .1 moa for every 1500-2000 rounds shot in semi-auto, .2 moa for every 1000 rounds shot in full auto, and 1 moa for every 500 rounds shot through bolt action. (No this is not realistic, but its a fair starting point to force players to focus on how many rounds they are sending down range).
3) Attachments like optics, nvg's, lasers, and lights need to have the option to be repaired (based on a cool down system that prevents spamming). Attachments like fore grips, rails, stocks, etc should degrade at 1/4 the speed they currently are.
This sounds like a good system to me! Thanks for the thoughtful response
That's the thing though shooting the gun doesn't really damage it. Unless you go through 10k rounds. And then maybe but if you do die I do see some scuff from falling in dirt or mud. So I get the idea. Just shooting the gun, it may last the whole campaign if you don't die
Its to force us to use more money
Gray zone devs: let's Implement half of a concept and see how many more players we can push off the game
Glad more people are saying this. I thought weapon durability, when Madfinger talked about it originally before the update was going to be more like jams and misfires when the gun started to degrade, but not just a sliding scale. I don’t understand why this is in game at this moment because searching the map for cool components is useless if I can’t repair said components. I instead would love a menu option where I could just turn it off/on or give me options for how I wish to play. The rest of the game feels better to me. I love the AI taking cover but there are plenty of situations where I need to pump a few mags in before they die.yes, still early access but I want the night to be darker. Would love phases of the moon so it’s not always full.
"Im a firearm owner and this doesnt happen" this is a video game my guy
You bring up very solid points that I didn't think of in regards to optics breaking, foregrips etc. As a firearm owner myself, your critiques make a lot of sense. 👍
I carried the same M4 + acog and every other part for 18 months in Afghanistan where firefights would happen daily, and not a single piece broke. We oiled and cleaned them....that's it.
Stack this with the cost of new gear, and the fact that a lot of us repeatedly CTD after the path (very high end pc), where I log back in to find all of my kit is gone....I'm level 23 and completely broke. This needs a fix asap.
I agree. Being a firearms owner myself I’ve never broken anything optics or grips on my rifles 😂. I think they rushed it and it needs some major reworking. The only things that should have durability would the Bolt , barrel and buffer spring. Pretty much the only parts that need replacement. Makes no sense why an optic wears with the rest of the gun. Hopefully they change it
Could get shot or when you fall(die) it could get fucked up. Just a thought.
In the military M4 barrels are only replaced after 15,000 rounds. And often times more like 30,000 rounds. 9MM pistols also run about 15,000 rounds.
M240 and .50 cal will be in the hundreds of thousands.
All this is before major part replacements like barrels and receivers.
Totally agree with these points, there needs to be at the very minimum a way to repair these items, either paid from a vendor or with items we can find or something. I would also love to see weapon jams implemented based on the condition of the gun.
That said regarding a gun breaking optics and such, the SCAR is notorious for this, but in general not something that most guns will do.
Loved the intro to the vid and loved the details. I cant get over how much they just keep getting wrong at GZW
Solid points and yeah been saying this since I started playing this patch
It should be like Tarkov : each weapon has 1 ''core'' part and the durability bar is actually only that ''core'' durability bar. once its out, you can buy another ''core'' (or just buy a new basic gun, strip it down to take the core and replace it to your gun) :D
They didn't use the word durability when they were doing the weekly patch meetings on their live sessions. They used the word maintenance which made it seems like we would be able to maintain guns cleans and repair weapons. Just one more of the things they deceived the players about ( ai going to sleep, keys appearing on tables not on soldiers)
lmao they did state that there will be a way to fix and repair both weapons and armor in a later update, The AI do "go to sleep" I have noticed a smaller number of enemies in an area during night raids, Keys do in fact spawn on tables and soldiers and their spawn rate is quite higher then last patch. almost like you didnt even play the game.
That intro was mint 😂
Should have just had us use the cash we find quite literally everywhere now to just pay the vendor to repair it. Hell even if they didn't even add a system where you can save a custom gun loadout and then just buy THAT from the vendor. Would save time instead of having to catalogue and remember every part you were using.
This is the video everyone needs to see. I played 200hrs and now leaving the game uninstalled in part to this.
I mean, it's still early access. This is the first of probably 6 updates before it's considered out. So it's building the foundation brick by brick. If it continues like this though, I can see why this would be a problem
Exactly my thougths mate. Also the income / money system need to rework. AK worth 30 dollar so we not hoarding, but at lvl 10 have 6 AKs, 5 m4s and 45k dollar to work with. All the next missions going to give me m4 with spectre and on... I'm rich after 1 hours, only thing what holds me back is gunny and vendor levels...
They need to rework rewards and shorten the starter zone quests a bit
@@chiyeti me and my friend we play PvE only atm and did not lost what can i say 5-10 set of gear max under 100+ hrs. There is 0 fear for gearloss for us who plays pve as you have this much money.
I believe it’s an incentive to use more weapons and look for loot to sell which will mean more play time? Maybe that was the thought process for this system?
That’s the appearance to me as well.. but who knows
To be honest those holo sights do, overtime, break from shooting, specially from how strong the gun kicks, but in general we are talking about some thousands of shots. The same goes to the weapon, parts start to wear, jams happen more often. I mean if you don't put some effort into cleaning and mantaining it. You know, weapons have a certain ammount of rounds they can go before having to have a full on inspection. The M4's barrel should whistand around 6k to 8k rounds before you start thinking about changing that barrel/receiver for your own safety, as it could lead to a catastrophic failure. Damage and wear is unavoidable in real life, and we will never ever get some sensible parts like the barrel back to it's factory standard full life. That said, I like the system, make us spend some money, try new things, but it is super crude indeed hahahah. But I wish parts would wear at different paces and we could use some maintenance kits like oil and cleaning rags to reduce the wear ticks, even changing batteries for the sights could be a thing. And to be honest spending some hours putting the things on the table, dissasembling it and smelling the gunpowder and oil is almost like calming ritual, like drinking a good cup of coffee. lol I would not mind doing that in the game too.
You know that during developement(as former designer) I called that as bullshit but certain person pushed it anyway without knowing shit about weapons.
Great video, unfortunately a lot of negative comments but solid production! Hope you’re doing well brother
Totally agree. It is ridiculous how fast the equipment degrades. It is a rushed implementation for sure...and after 6 months to get this patch out I expected better. Contemplating putting GZW on the back burner for another 6 months.
I used up my weapons until 0 the weapon just becomes unusable and lasers and flash lights start to turn off on there own after they hit red
Yeah that’s what I meant about it going click instead of bang… it’s a bit silly.
@ far as I seen it only degrades when u die or go in a coma 10% when u die and 5% when u go in a coma then a combo if they do both to u lol
OH FFS lol! I guess I'm the only guy with a $500 dollar eotech paper weight..
WHY IS THERE NO BRIGHTNESS ADJUSTMENTS ON RED DOTS?! ffs
Multiple issues, disability with no repair system, red dot and scope brightness control, the NV goggles are trash. “Oh they’re so realistic” BS. I have a pair, and they are 10x clearer than how they chose to represent them. I love the thought of this game but I’m with you. Wtf have they even been working on?
You sure about weapons durability when firing? My experience has been that my weapon only gets damaged when I die.
In the background footage that M4 is brand new, it’s losing percent just from firing.
They should have never implemented the durability system for the weapons until they add the necessary things to repair them. Its honestly a bit goofy tbh
Your contrast/gamma settings are wrong. I had the same issue. Night ops works fine. They've improved it even since you've played. The durability system isn't finished yet. It's an early version. It's still an alpha, not even a beta. No reason to critique it yet.
Does no one think about that they maybe just testing a new damage system without balancing it yet ? Its just a first step...
Sure we think about it. But execution and testing is everything.. I can’t comprehend how nobody testing this build had similar feedback.
Yep person who said let's add this should be thrown on jail. Plus when u get bullshit 1 tapped by ai bam u lose 10% ok everything
love the intro man XD
Appreciate it!
i have 20 hours, at level 6 now and i have yet needed to buy anything from any vendor at all
however my gear is at like 50% and my helmet is at 2%
so stuff like reload speed is affected (okay i get it) but also recoil handling (in what world does that make sense?) and it feels so weird not being able to clean my gun to make it last longer, and the eotech, the lower, etc. lose durability...at all?
i would prefer it to be more realistic than anything, and make the actually hard things come from differing areas instead
i guess it's a pre-alpha
Lol tanky AI is an understatement I ran into 3 invincible AI over 4hrs yesterday. 1 of them I put 40 mosin rounds in his head and about another 40 in his chest, swapped to an AK and put 3 mags into him and he just kept shooting back.. Quality Gameplay lol
Where exactly were you shooting because I never had such troubles? Maybe you were shooting at legs or lower body?
@@Geniy_B_Kvadrate_XD_ua like i stated in my reply about 40 rounds in the head and then tried 40 to the chest with a mosin. wouldn't die lol then tried the M4 and emptied 3 mags into him and still nothing
Had this same issue earlier today
I'm pretty sure it's some sort of glitch/bug and my guess is that it's a "visual" glitch. The AI have a new 3rd reaction besides random zig zagging or standing there like a target dummy, the third is they will actually run for cover and those AI that do that, they like to constantly transition from one place of cover to another. Sometimes it's buggy and when they do this, they move super fast, if they're doing that, you know they're glitched. Like they will move way faster than normal and even their animations are sped up. Even if they're not moving and they are standing still and start shooting at you, they're still glitched. I don't think they are actually where you see them in game because when I have seen the AI doing that sped up movement, if they ever stop to shoot at me, I'll see their avatar in one location but I'll see the muzzle flash come from another location (where their avatar isn't currently at) that looks like it would be an obvious and decent cover location (they typically use walls or boxes). When you shoot the "visible" avatar, they will flinch as if they take damage but they won't die. I see this often at Midnight Sapphire.
@RiverSloth yea that sounds fairly plausible, the AI that was invincible was running to cover a lot and definitely flinching when getting shot. Didn't notice the muzzle flash coming from a different location though, however I wasn't keeping my head out long enough to tell lol
Like for real, what's the point of adding nvgs if literally the whole map is lit up with street lights and house lights. Where are these people getting electricity from in an abandoned country???
They have that wireless power 😂
If your going to add maintenance to the game, you gotta add the part where you can clean/repair it. DUH! so stupid that they added this without that!
It would be better to be able to repair and take care of the firearms, i think. With a cost.
I agree, the game is (still?) a bit unfinished and according to the developers, development is continuing. That is also the reason why I am still optimistic. As one commenter already said, there may be weapon maintenance. So I would currently see this system as a kind of placeholder and hope that development continues for some time, if not even a 1.0 version can be released, because many systems have turned out very well so far.
Hopefully it’s all just placeholders and we get a better system… just starting to feel like nobody tests these features before they’re added 😂
I havnt rubber banded once since the update, but nvgs are basically useless ngl
Yep the nvgs are weird,i dont know but they really hard boasting with nvgs :D how real they look,well dont thing,nvgs in game looks like from wish,i know there is different types,but still,basic military nvg dont look that blury,maybe in 2005 :D
Game still crashes with 14900kf and takes your loot
Skill issue I've crashed once with 100+ hrs
Durability on the barrel would be fine, but the rest of the gun and components is just silly.
Dont really see the problem - its an attempt to build a gameplay cycle, so players can't just keep using that one good rifle. And with the current loot drop rate, there is ample opportunity to run various setups and replace the parts that are worn down.
The realism argument (which I have seen many places besides here) is nonsensical. In the medical system, you can perform lung surgery (even on yourself) for 15 seconds to completely cure a bullet hole. Don't see anyone complaining over that.
it'd be real interesting if rounds hit your weapon then it would render it useless 😬
Or at least the component hit by the bullet was damaged.
My biggest issue with the game is the performance. It's so awful. Even on a 3080, R7 5800X3D & 32GB DDR4 RAM I average like 50-60fps. On low/medium 1440p.
they haven't implement moon phases yet so ye
Brother how the hell are you running this on 150 fps
4080 and frame gen
Lol me with 2070 bearly reaching 30fps 😢😂
while I see your reasoning behind your video, I dont understand it. the "durability" also changes the way the weapon looks (adding scratching and general use marks), so from my understanding is that you dont want the site or the stock to get scratches and look used, just the barrels? Also the time it takes to wear a weapon down from 100% you have easily made 10X what you need to make a new one. This was to give the items life and force players to have to get new gear throughout their time in game or buy it if they did not get lucky enough. It has given me the opposite effect, I actually have a reason to play late game now once I have a full stash I wount feel like I should not pick up anymore gear. Last patch late game I was only running around hitting cash registers to money, and that was just to see how much money I could farm.
I personally, and I don’t want you to take this as me taking anything you are saying for granted, could care less about the appearance of a weapon in an EA title. I care about function over fashion in this case. Weapons looking worn is a cool idea as they get used and we see it in a lot of other titles, but the functionality of the system has to make sense to appreciate the other aspects of it. At least this is my opinion. I can respect your take on it as well and do appreciate some of the love they’ve put behind these.
@@chiyeti That is fair but it also the current system in an EA title is fine, especially since we know there will be additions later to compensate for this. For all we know they wanted to add a way to fix your weapon but keeps the overall wear to the "skin" may currently not be working like intended so they are holding off on it. I just feel this system gives late game more of a reason to play rather than just having the same M4 for months.
8000 rounds per barrel? Most are rated for tens (if not a hundred) thousand rounds.
But yeah this system makes 0 sense.
Mind you I think this is just early access, so in my opinion, just a basic system to get refined down the road. (We all really hope)
Constantly loosing money on selling guns is plain dumb, as early game earning money is somewhat slow to begin with .
I wish you would make more money
I don't like this system. I've had the same rifle for years, and it still functions perfect. I get batteries for NVG or light/laser, but kind of sucks. armor and gear sure.
I hate gun durability system. At least make it repairable for gun to make more sense.
This durability system for weapons and even the NVG's is the STUPIDEST thing ever!
Madfinger listen up and DELETE THIS NOW!
Tarkov does it better as itd just the breach and u can replace it and all good
This is stupid weapon durabillity without repair fanaly jou have a good gun but than you lose it if you use it ridiculous
My steam review went from meh to slightly less meh. 😒
Mine went from very positive to negative… it’s become something I can’t recommend anymore
@chiyeti I never could really either. My computer is shit and I have almost 700hrs in this game. Been a fuckin grind!
Aside from the degradation system being stupid, unwanted and unrealistic it completely negates the changes to the economy players requested.
Players brought up issues in the economy and running out of money after questing stops.
Devs confirmed it and added high value loot as a way to offset. So why simultaneously add a "system" for us to needlessly dump money into.
No one quit the game because there wasn't a day night cycle.
Tens of thousands quit because of bad AI.
The decisions this company makes are baffling.
Madfinger games please start streaming your production meetings, they surely have to be absolute comedy.
I really don’t think they play their own game.. or at least some of the changes feel that way
Key spawnrate killed it For me Back Then.
Whoever ok’d adding durability without having a repair system is an idiot. Also I own BNVDs in white phosphor and you can’t see through the scopes in game with nods… but in irl all I have to do is adjust the diopter on the back of the scope and boom it’s crystal clear, so whatever “experts” they paired up with on night vision need to be kicked to curb for telling them you can’t see though a scope.
I HATE this change!