Meshuggah - The Violent Sleep Of Reason | The Most CHALLENGING Album I've Heard | REACTION!

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  • @DrewFortune97
    @DrewFortune97  2 года назад +37

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    • @bugzz09
      @bugzz09 2 года назад +1

      I’m going to see them my self when they come to Florida I’m very excited 💯💯💯 they are one of my favorite bands 🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾

    • @Defensive_Wounds
      @Defensive_Wounds 2 года назад +1

      14:00 - I think do what you do, it is your reaction! Possibly just add a bit of text on screen 3 seconds before the talking over bit or something as a funny cute warning for those people who get pissed-off by these menial things? I have seen that in others videos, such as Julia Nilon's videos where she stops talking but uses her future editing Julia to add text on screen to say what she wanted to say in that moment but couldn't without talking over the song and she didn't pause it as she was in the moment. You could do that or similar but the other way around, give text warnings on screen that you are about to pause a solo or whatnot. Then those people will not be so easily riled-up.

  • @APieceOfLiquid
    @APieceOfLiquid 2 года назад +125

    This is definitely Boss Level Meshuggah. It's everything they've done mastered to the Nth degree. I think Immutable was their way of taking it easy and giving us a rhythmical masterpiece rather than an overall masterpiece like this album.

    • @jameschauvet3140
      @jameschauvet3140 Год назад +3

      💯

    • @JL-ql2jo
      @JL-ql2jo Год назад +12

      Agreed. I love Immutable, it’s been a skillful departure while still being pure Meshuggah, but The Violent Sleep of Reason just feels monstrous and alien in a way no other album does. Absolute masterpiece.

    • @alihijazi4451
      @alihijazi4451 Год назад +6

      ​@@JL-ql2jo I'd say Catch Thirty Three certainly is up to par when it comes to demonic, alien, eldritch music like meshuggah lol

    • @StrangerE0ns
      @StrangerE0ns Год назад

      @@alihijazi4451yeah catch 33 is a fuckin inhuman monster while violent sleep is more like the most badass punch to your forehead you can get

    • @thomatos2005
      @thomatos2005 11 месяцев назад

      I definitely feel this is their at least 2nd best album

  • @cakeallen1629
    @cakeallen1629 2 года назад +79

    by the ton is incredibly underrated, its riffs are so weird yet so fucking awesome i love it
    this entire album takes a few listens to get into, but golly is it GOOD once you do. Clockworks grew like cancer on me it's incredible
    my personal favourite on the album would have to be ivory tower, that ending sequence is quite frankly orgasmic

    • @braydenliva
      @braydenliva Год назад +4

      maybe not the best description my man

    • @RaspySquares
      @RaspySquares 6 месяцев назад

      Also my favorite. This or 33. 33 feels more like one huge song.

  • @kaimeier82
    @kaimeier82 2 года назад +44

    Nostrum and Clockworks are two of the most incredible pieces of drumming I have ever witnessed. 👀 And them being musical masterpieces makes it even more insane to me.

  • @tennenyt5311
    @tennenyt5311 2 года назад +35

    Love the lyrics of clockwork, describes depression and confusion with the human condition so well

  • @JakobStrand
    @JakobStrand Год назад +8

    This album sure is something else. First time I heard Our Rage Wont´Die...when the groove kicks in. My mind was blown to pieces. That´s truly some teeth crushing music!

  • @MrFRNTIK
    @MrFRNTIK 2 года назад +21

    I underappreciated this album so much when it released. I know the ins and outs of every other messhugah song and album but every time I go to VSoR it's like I'm listening to brand new shuggah material and it blows me away. Idk why it didn't stick with me like the other albums, but now I can't stop listening to it.

    • @Gatapotata
      @Gatapotata Год назад +4

      Makes sense. First album where Tomas and Dick wrote most of the songs...

  • @matthewdavis7674
    @matthewdavis7674 2 года назад +85

    I still think this album is their masterpiece

    • @AntechamberAE
      @AntechamberAE Год назад +3

      Same here.

    • @devendasmusic
      @devendasmusic Год назад +2

      Me too, It just took me a little bit to understand It

    • @l0rd_breeigo-sama954
      @l0rd_breeigo-sama954 Год назад +4

      @@devendasmusic it is by far their hardest overall album to listen to. The almost random rythms in TVSOR and Nostrum are amazing, but not as relaxing to listen to. But would stilk be inclined to agree that it also imo is their best album

    • @CristianFlores-jd6xg
      @CristianFlores-jd6xg 10 месяцев назад +2

      I’m inclined to agree but obzen exists 😭

    • @wesleyb1458
      @wesleyb1458 9 месяцев назад +3

      Nothing is their peak imo. I think it’s a clear level above anything else

  • @BAVBAVBAV
    @BAVBAVBAV Год назад +13

    Clockworks functions as essentially my favorite song ever. Nothing tops this level of sonic insanity and technical perfection

  • @d0m0b40
    @d0m0b40 2 года назад +73

    This one definitely takes a while to get accustomed not just musically but the very raw sounding production. Once your brain gets accustomed to it tho it is some absolute heat. Meshuggah in a nutshell tbh

    • @MarshTheDarsh
      @MarshTheDarsh 2 года назад +3

      Thanks for saying this, my thoughts summed up

    • @jameschauvet3140
      @jameschauvet3140 Год назад

      💯

    • @AntechamberAE
      @AntechamberAE Год назад +1

      The production is very professional and well produced, not sure where you're getting "raw" from. Compare it to Chaosphere LOL

    • @d0m0b40
      @d0m0b40 Год назад +1

      @@jameschauvet3140 i worded it wrong, it is indeed really good production. But ya

    • @declan0001
      @declan0001 Год назад

      ​@@AntechamberAE I think he means that unlike most modern day metal with the very atmospheric and huge soundscapes meshuggah is very straight the point and in your face. not saying either is better than the other just saying it's very unique. fits meshuggahs style perfectly

  • @dodsbringaren3698
    @dodsbringaren3698 2 года назад +26

    Dude I love how you described headbanging as like a game of Wack a mole, its damn true man I haven't thought of it that way before. Been a pleasure watching this, love you bro.

    • @DrewFortune97
      @DrewFortune97  2 года назад +5

      Hahaha I thought it was a little dumb but it made sense in my head when I said it😂 love bro❤️❤️

  • @Kenjames10
    @Kenjames10 2 года назад +26

    The album grows on you magically with each and every listen. I remember being as confused as you are here but I kept coming back as I thought it still sounded really mesmerizing and unique. Now I am a huge fan of this album and Violent Sleep Of Reason is one of my favourite songs by Meshuggah. What an epic masterpiece that one especially is!

  • @Defensive_Wounds
    @Defensive_Wounds 2 года назад +10

    All my band's songs are us all in one room, one take recording. No editing or anything. Raw, unfiltered real audio. Any mistakes are there to hear. Some are happy mistakes though so those definitely left in such as weird bass harmonics that clashed with drums or just reverbed in the room. Sounded cool (in our song 'The Ending'.) I love that Meshuggah did this for a full album! The level of rehearsals to get it all down pretty much perfectly on all counts for all in the band and in the crew for an album in one take is insane! It is hard enough doing one song perfectly in one take!!

  • @APieceOfLiquid
    @APieceOfLiquid 2 года назад +36

    You need to do their album Koloss next. Maybe for the few days before you see them live.

    • @officialrhythmicthoughts
      @officialrhythmicthoughts 2 года назад +8

      YES
      We desperately need a full Koloss reaction, Drew needs to hear Marrow

    • @imast5112
      @imast5112 2 года назад +3

      @@officialrhythmicthoughts and Behind the Sun

    • @isaackmojica8302
      @isaackmojica8302 2 года назад +4

      ​@@imast5112 their most "melancholic"Also the most Sludgiest and just damn Epic song they've been made

    • @zeal0tseven57
      @zeal0tseven57 2 года назад +1

      @@imast5112 He's already heard Behind The Sun

  • @zelim9367
    @zelim9367 2 года назад +18

    Stifled outro is what heaven sounds like

    • @isaackmojica8302
      @isaackmojica8302 2 года назад +3

      masterfull soundtrack after the grooviest attack and the amazing solo

    • @zelim9367
      @zelim9367 2 года назад +1

      @@isaackmojica8302 Yes!

    • @DeathCon666
      @DeathCon666 3 месяца назад

      How u know what heaven sounds like😂

  • @APieceOfLiquid
    @APieceOfLiquid 2 года назад +30

    What a monstrous album. So good. Another masterpiece by them.

  • @michaelc3656
    @michaelc3656 2 года назад +18

    Enjoyed watching your reaction. Sucks to hear you didn't like it, though, as I really liked this album more than Koloss, for example. I can totally understand that this one is not as accessible as some of their other ones and not a good place to start for newcomers.
    I remember getting Koloss back in 2012 and being pretty underwhelmed by it. I thought the band had really run out of steam despite there still being some killer tracks on it. But this album definitely blew it away and I found the song to be a lot more interesting. It took me a few attempts to get some of the groove in it, much like it would for you, but the payoff is definitely worth it.
    I saw Meshuggah live where they played a couple of these songs and you are correct that it sounded awesome in that setting.
    My favourite song on this album is Clockworks, but I also loved By the Ton, Violent Sleep of Reason, Ivory Tower, and Nostrum. There's no weak songs here, to be fair, but those are my standouts. I hope in time, if you do decide to return to this album, you get the same level of enjoyment I do from it. :)

  • @emilklamer6938
    @emilklamer6938 2 года назад +5

    you or anyone seeing this should try out !
    "vildhjarta"
    i personally go for the instrumental version of their new album "måsstaden under vatten"
    or start out with the new teaser "+kanslan+" they uploaded couple weeks ago
    you can choose any song and be more than satisfied by not only extreme rythms but also super groovy riffs and beautiful melodies hidden in a super sophisticated way.
    kind of tesseract ambience with a nice different touch...
    they use pitch shifters on the different guitar riffs
    i really think you would love it
    also Swedish like Meshuggah
    THALL

  • @mattdubya1037
    @mattdubya1037 2 года назад +6

    if you want the heaviest Meshuggah album react to Chaosphere. its them at their most robotic-groovy and djenty, from robotic grooves of Concentation, to the insane outro in last song elastic (which sounds like an elavator to hell, then the doors open and your in a hell of all the songs on that album mixed together at once. once it stops your ears will make a weird ringing sound for a few minutes and feel like you listened to one of those alpha brainwaves videos here on youtube lol its bonkers!)

  • @danny.chulo.
    @danny.chulo. 2 года назад +14

    I’ve always thought of Meshuggah songs like a “Magic Eye” image, where it takes abit of focus, almost a relaxing of your senses into a trance like state and then...it reveals itself to you. You see the song for what it actually is, and how the band hears it, a simple time signature that was hidden under all the “magic”, and once you see it you can’t unsee it. That’s why we Meshuggah fans get so excited when a new album comes out cause it’s like a whole new book of images, of artworks to figure out, some easier than others , some you get right away and others you never do, but they are all works of art regardless. The band always leaves hints and clues to help you out, there’s always something to grab on to or look out for , like a single guitar note moving up and down will usually indicate where the pulse is , while everything else is seemingly mayhem. So whenever you just seem to be looking at a big mess , just know that hidden within it is an absolute gem , that is both overwhelmingly chaotic and beautifully simplistic.

    • @shrimpscampin
      @shrimpscampin Год назад +3

      squint your ears to hear clearly

    • @Chaos_sphere33
      @Chaos_sphere33 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@shrimpscampinblur reality to hear it real

  • @ChuckLorris
    @ChuckLorris 2 года назад +8

    Dude i saw them live last weekend (first time for me) and holy shit, easily my favorite concert ever. Absolutely slapped from start to finish.

  • @Benobot99
    @Benobot99 2 года назад +30

    An album to absolutely check out is "Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia" by Dimmu Borgir (album from 2001). It's a 100/100 for me, and it's the only album I've given 100/100 to. EVERY track is phenomenal. Fast, precise drumming, otherworldly atmosphere, excellent vocals, sharp yet catchy riffs, and perfect intro/outro tracks.

    • @anfie2495
      @anfie2495 2 года назад +1

      Seconded! Immaculate album imo

    • @Artunen
      @Artunen 2 года назад +1

      that would be a perfect change of pace on this channel!!

    • @Itsunclegabby
      @Itsunclegabby 2 года назад

      My god, I used to sleep to that somehow lol

    • @megagalactickanye454
      @megagalactickanye454 Год назад

      Man.. "death cult Armageddon" is fantastic too tho.

    • @djoverkin
      @djoverkin 8 месяцев назад

      Yes please, do it!

  • @patrickwilliamson29
    @patrickwilliamson29 Год назад +2

    Violent sleep of reason is an album that you really need to listen to a couple of times over a long period of time to really get it. The whole is great and it took until I started playing guitar properly to really fall in love with this album, though usually play about 80% of it (clockworks is a bit played to death imo)

  • @Diesel_Budgie
    @Diesel_Budgie 2 года назад +6

    I used to listen to Clockworks in the car after work every day for like 2 months - and I still don't know exactly what's going on, lol. You just get so familiar with the music that you can follow it in your head, like words in a sentence that also don't fit in 4/4 but can be replicated from memory. Same with Animals as Leaders and similar artists.

  • @braders790boop
    @braders790boop 2 года назад +5

    I just saw them live in nottingham. was a really good set. they played lots of different songs from all of their albums.

  • @GodGabi
    @GodGabi 2 года назад +3

    Born in Dissonance is my favourite meshuggah song

  • @bigfannypack
    @bigfannypack 2 года назад +9

    Actually shocked you had this hard of a time finding the groove!!!! I’m watching this screaming at my phone that the groove is right there lol like right under your fingertips!! A lot of the same 4/4 stuff they normally do just different angles of it and finding different ways to groove it! Best album IMO

    • @danny.chulo.
      @danny.chulo. 2 года назад +5

      The title track was one of those lol it was right there! But I guess different people look at things from different angles and the way he was looking just didn’t see it , I honestly thought he would think that ones a banger cause of the obvious 4/4 but that’s meshuggah for ya

    • @DrewFortune97
      @DrewFortune97  2 года назад +3

      I’m a 4/4 merchant, anything beyond that and I get sent into a whirlwind

    • @bigfannypack
      @bigfannypack 2 года назад +1

      All good brotha!! Just hope you give it another listen or two, cus this album is a BEAST!!

  • @NYJZach
    @NYJZach 2 года назад +6

    Hope you can check out the album Where Owls Know My Name by Rivers of Nihil sometime. One of the best prog/tech death metal albums of all time imo

  • @johnarchibald6
    @johnarchibald6 2 года назад +6

    This album is the one that has stuck with me the most over all their other work even though I would say I love everything they have done

  • @im_in_immense_pain
    @im_in_immense_pain 2 года назад +2

    I'd recommend relistening to Ivory Tower, and trying to headbang to the cymbals/hi hats, instead of headbanging in 16th notes, due to the song being in 12/8 or 4/4 in triplet subdivison. Love ur videos!

  • @thewildhealer541
    @thewildhealer541 2 года назад +4

    For some reason I loved this album alot when it came out but alot of people had problems with it. Production is the way it is because they recorded the whole album live in studio. And for me personally some of the best songs they have written is on this album. I know it's one of their more complex albums rhythmically but it kind of annoyed me when the snare was going at a steady pace and you didn't catch the beat at times 😂 No ill feelings of course, I love your content and I think you should give this record a few more listens because it's one of their best in my opinion. I respect that you dared diving into Meshuggah in the first place, I know that they can be very challenging listening to at first but they are one of the most rewarding musical experiences ever. 😁

  • @danieltaylor187
    @danieltaylor187 2 года назад +9

    Mate... go back to the start, not necessarily the first album, but "Destroy Erase Improve", "None" EP, and then "Chaosphere"... then you'll catch the groove and progress with the music as Meshuggah made it. By the time you circle back to the newer stuff it will make more sense.

  • @UncleRJ
    @UncleRJ 2 года назад +3

    I would say that the album is different from the rest is because it is the first album that Dick Lovgren, the bassist, is involved in the songwriting. He, together with Haake, had written most of the songs of the album, with a couple from Marten Hagstrom, the rhythm guitarist, and one from Fredrik Thordendal (though he was uncredited). Fun fact about Lovgren, he had attended a Jazz University and had released a Jazz album too. So you have him to blame for the unpredictability of the album!

    • @Gatapotata
      @Gatapotata Год назад +1

      Facts! To be fair, though... Meshuggah's pretty much always been a jazz metal band...

  • @APieceOfLiquid
    @APieceOfLiquid 2 года назад +8

    Just finished the reaction. I think the reason you didn't like this as much as you'd thought you would us because you haven't listened to all of Meshuggah. Do Koloss for next week man. Then when you have heard most of the albums, listen to them again in order and your appreciation will sky rocket.

  • @sumoshepe
    @sumoshepe 8 месяцев назад +1

    I love your reactions so much. I love meshuggah, and I've been playing drums all my life. I don't struggle much with meshuggah's rhythms, or finding that pulse, or locking in. Sometimes it takes a few practice sessions. That mathy part in the Title Track just follow the snare, he's playing off grooves on the china cymbal.
    I just love your willingness to try to hash it out with your mind. Watching someone who doesn't have an innate sense of rhythm listen to meshuggah is super entertaining!

  • @iancraig5415
    @iancraig5415 2 года назад +5

    I'm gonna preface this by saying that even though I had listened to pretty much everything up until nostrum as individual tracks, I had never given this album a proper listen back to back. As a result, I was basically listening to this album for the first time along with you and this I what I came up with by the end:
    1. This album is like applying the meshuggah effect to meshuggah. It takes everything you've ever known about them and how they craft their mind melting sound and says, "Oh you thought this was as deep as it went?" Inititally this whole album sounds much more abstract and complex, but then you start noticing the remnants of their sound (cymbals in 4, the same note progressions, similar solos, that kind of thing) and it sort of reveals itself. For me personally, it took hearing those similar elements and using them as sort of a key to unlock my mind to be ready for the rest of the album in order to properly feel it.
    2. The reason everything sounds so complex apart from that fact that it just is timing wise, is that there are so many fucking layers to the sound on each of the song that it almost seems infinite in terms of depth. Take the intro to Violent Sleep of Reason for Example, it keeps that chug riff as the main motif but in the background are these seemingly infinite layers of synth-sounding guitar leads that once you start listinening to them pull you in like an unending kaleidoscope of both dissonance and harmony at the same time. What this creates for me is both extreme confusion at my own inability to comprehend what I'm hearing properly and extreme awe at the beaty of the chaos I'm listening to because I know that there is order in what I'm hearing even if I can't place it.
    3. This album is essentially just one big representation of the band's name and what it means. Meshuggah means crazy or insane in yiddish and that's a rather on the nose name for noth their lyrics and how they absolutely fuck with the minds of music enjoyers of all levels. This idea is taken to 11 with the songs on this album, with a lot of them talking about feeding off of madness and lack of understanding, violence as a result of the sleep of reason if you will. An interesting thing I found was that the more I tried to analyze what the fuck was going on the more confused I was, but when I literally just put my faith in the band's songwriting process I was able to find the timing at least (standard practice for meshuggah where its better to just trust your instinctive reaction than to analyze it). What's unique about what happened here though was that almost seemed to remove the curtain if only briefly for the instrumentation. As someone else said in the comments, listening to meshuggah even after you've been a fan for years, is like peering into a crystal ball. At first everything is foggy but every now and then the mist peels back and you get a glimpse into almost how the band is feeling the song and it feels like you're finally on the right wavelength and it all makes sense. But not in a way where you can comprehend all of what's happening on an individual level and see how each instrument contributes to the whole, but more like seeing the whole and being able to vibe with it regardless of whether anything else makes sense.
    I think where this album primarily loses people is in the stripped back songs like Born in Dissonance where it seems like they're just writing songs as a parody of themselves, but once you see them in the context of the album as a whole they gain a whole new meaning of sorts. This album is also the polar opposite of albums like koloss and immutable, where the band uses the lack of layering to create this incredibly deep and primal sound. Violent Sleep of Reason does the inverse and adds all the layers to create this incredibly interwoven beautiful but also madness inducing level of complexity that gives an otherwordly vibe. There's no way to make this sound less condescending, but I think this album has the same issue as catch-33 where sometimes it takes a brief moment of enlightenment and a lot of faith in the band to be able to see behind the curtain and watch the performance if only briefly. I sincerely hope any of this made sense, this is just how my ADHD brain processes the beautiful bullshit this band puts out.

  • @kentsmith4999
    @kentsmith4999 2 года назад +4

    Meshuggah is such a phenomenal band! Always incredible to listen to them, definitely humbles those who think they've gotten far. The thing I love about them is as much syncopation as they do, there's always at least one constant to bring it all together. Most of their rhythms are in 4 but they displace and subdivide so smoothly that its easy to get lost. Keep an ear on the cymbals and snare, more often than not the rhythm is being held down by those factors, while the guitar riffs are flying in and out of it and are polyrhythmic alongside the unorthodox patterns/turn arounds. My favorite band alongside Animals As Leaders!

  • @idontcare_wtf
    @idontcare_wtf 2 года назад +1

    Loving the format, great edits dude. Cool that you manage to put videos on top of the reaction.

  • @inkubuzz
    @inkubuzz 2 года назад +4

    Please react to their NONE EP... its actually what got me into Meshuggah

  • @dodsbringaren3698
    @dodsbringaren3698 2 года назад +3

    This album took me years to truly appreciate, you're not alone there. Great video bro

  • @Ledjent
    @Ledjent 2 года назад +1

    See you at the gig Drew! I can't wait to see them! < 33

  • @esscue
    @esscue 2 года назад +3

    46:28
    "this feels like the final boss of Meshuggah albums"
    wait until you listen to Sol Niger Within, it may not be released as a Meshuggah record, but it's a monster in the Meshuggah-verse for sure.

    • @Harklaren
      @Harklaren Год назад

      yeah, i mean its made by Fredrik whose the lead guitarist in meshuggah, so that might be why

  • @Taylor-pz7cj
    @Taylor-pz7cj 2 года назад +4

    I know it's been a while since you've reacted to them, but Exoplanet by The Contortionist is an album that I think you would enjoy. The contrast of ambience and crushing riffs and breakdowns is incredible.

  • @paulphoenix1669
    @paulphoenix1669 2 года назад +5

    Saw you at the show last night in the Olympia man, was fucking crazy.
    Feel like I went to war

    • @DrewFortune97
      @DrewFortune97  2 года назад +4

      Hahaha love it man! Was insanity🔥🔥
      Going to record a podcast about the day/night leading up to the show - got to see some amazing things man, can’t wait to share

  • @Therealchrist
    @Therealchrist 2 года назад +9

    I think part of the reason some people get upset when you talk over the song, is that they think you've missed that awesome moment/transition cause you're talking and the audio dips. A facial/editing acknowledgement when you hear something juicy in those scenarios could help

    • @Therealchrist
      @Therealchrist 2 года назад +1

      They just don't want you missing cool moments they love :D

  • @TemalCageman
    @TemalCageman 2 года назад +1

    I really love your full album reactions!
    EDIT: I should say that I am a huge Meshuggah fan and discovered them back in 1994 and have followed them since then. :)

  • @prathameshkulkarni226
    @prathameshkulkarni226 2 года назад +3

    33:37 is musically the heaviest thing ever!! What a drop that is!

  • @untetheredmoon6971
    @untetheredmoon6971 2 года назад +2

    I absolutely love your editing and reactions. You're also quite handsome :-) very nice smile!

  • @Gryphon13
    @Gryphon13 2 года назад +5

    My favorite song off this album is the Violent Sleep of Reason. The part at 3:30 makes me feel like my brain is being microwaved LOL

  • @johnarchibald6
    @johnarchibald6 2 года назад +4

    Hey Drew after many listens I can say Clockworks is my favorite track from Meshuggah. Challenging for sure but after you listen a few times and understand the rhythm, it throws you off in the beginning because they play off beat and then on beat and then off again for the first section and then end on a choke. So that low chug slide happens off the snarel and then on the snare and then off again, so when Thomas says Immutable is more approachable because the guitars don't cross the drums at all this is what he is talking about. Once you catch it in all of its nuance, you'll understand this masterpiece. The track Violent Sleep of Reason fricking slaps tho doesn't it lol

  • @zelim9367
    @zelim9367 2 года назад +1

    Epic video!! Truly legendary

  • @kezzaposiris
    @kezzaposiris 2 года назад +4

    Please react to Meshuggah-Chaosphere it is very powerful and great album!

  • @beardo85
    @beardo85 2 года назад +2

    I had no idea it was live tracked. Thats so sick!

  • @DoNotLookDown
    @DoNotLookDown 2 года назад +3

    This album came out when I was first getting into super heavy music. So this was my first Meshuggah album and I loved it. It sounds so different from the rest of their stuff. The production sounds so good to me. It definitely feels like one of their heaviest albums. I didn't like Immutable as much cause it just sounded off to me. I feel like the riffs drag on a bit for me and a bit too groovy. I like the super challenging material on this record. But Immutable has really grown on me.

  • @ericmiller4546
    @ericmiller4546 2 года назад +7

    Yo joined the patreon just for this album! 🤘🏻 stoked you finally got around to it! Seeing meshuggah for the first time in October out in Cali! Stoked as fuck! Let us know how the show goes!

    • @DrewFortune97
      @DrewFortune97  2 года назад +6

      Will do man!! Might even do a podcast style video as a Patreon Exclusive to give my thoughts on the show after I’ve been!

    • @ericmiller4546
      @ericmiller4546 2 года назад +3

      @@DrewFortune97 Hell yeah dude 🤘🏻have a great time! Also man you’re opinion is not wrong so don’t feel that way, to each their own I say. For myself personally this is the album that really blew my mind and got me into the meshuggah rabbit hole surprisingly lol. Anyways stoked you finally got around to this album! Cheers man! 🤘🏻🤘🏻

    • @DrewFortune97
      @DrewFortune97  2 года назад +3

      @@ericmiller4546 yeah man I think it will grow over time, even editing I picked up new appreciations for it! But still very very challenging for virgin ears 😞

  • @emilklamer6938
    @emilklamer6938 2 года назад +2

    pause when speaking and then go back a few seconds i guess?
    love the meshuggah stuff, ive been following you since the first meshuggah video

  • @MellonVegan
    @MellonVegan 2 года назад +1

    It's difficult, bordering on impossible, to choose a favourite Meshuggah album but for me, this one is definitely part of that conversation.
    That "drop", let's call it, in Clockworks and the opening riff of Born in Dissonance are some of my favourite heavy af adrenaline pumping riffs that were just meant to be put on when maxing out on a deadlift or sth.
    And the solo in Ivory Tower along with that crushing, chunky riff underneath is, imo, on a level (of solos) they haven't reached since Destroy, Erase, Improve. It's the eyes rolling into the back of your head kind of good.
    That said, I had a few full listens when it came out and since then, although all songs on it are good, I've mainly listened to my favourites (albeit very often). Like the new record, it feels long, not in a way of being boring but in a way of holy shit, I can only take so much punishment ^^
    Something like Koloss, although not necessarily better, is definitely easier to listen to in full.

  • @tombyrne8657
    @tombyrne8657 2 года назад +1

    I saw these guys on Wednesday like yourself. I think they are far more challenging live than on CD. My eyes started rolling back uncontrollably in my head at one point and I'm worried I may of had a near seizure, lol.

  • @instantnoodles4663
    @instantnoodles4663 2 года назад +2

    Drew doing the classic meshuggah face at 28:09
    You love to see it

  • @twogunsnoammo8419
    @twogunsnoammo8419 7 месяцев назад +1

    Hey Drew, I'm wondering if you've revisited this record since this video? I was obsessed with it for months after it released, partly because I needed to absorb the complexity, and it's a contender for my favorite in their discog. The production and the brutality are just unreal.
    If not, main note I wanna highlight is that Violent Sleep and Ivory Tower are in triplet 4/4 (and so is Dancers to a Discordant System, Exquisite Machinery, maybe a few others I'm forgetting) instead of straight 4/4. You were bobbing your head to straight 4 because the riffs try to trick you and they usually play straight in most songs, and that's why you couldn't lock in, I think.
    **Everything** is in 4, but more than that, they play in rhythmic of phrases of 8 or 16 bars, typically. They like to hide the ball during those phrases, and do it a lot more in this record than others, but getting a feel for where the phrases start/end is the masterkey to almost every single song in their discog. It's not just counting to 4 on the cymbals (when they're level, and then continuing the 4 in your head like a metronome even when they deviate), but counting to 4 four/eight/sixteen times, then again when the section changes, etc etc. True for every record, and an understanding that is essential for this one especially.
    Maybe that's as clear as mud lol but it's the sort of thing that makes folks say that Meshuggah is a musician's/drummer's band, and that's fair, even if I love it.

  • @erotomania91
    @erotomania91 Год назад

    Man... I love your brutal honesty after "Stifled" ends at 51:10. I remember first listening to that song and not being able to understand the rhythm and being so mystified by how anyone could create such a rhythmic monstrosity of a song. Great stuff seeing your reactions man.

  • @siryeetsleyiii872
    @siryeetsleyiii872 2 года назад +3

    The rawness in guitar tone comes from a crazy effect or filter the producer Tue Madsen used. I think it was some effect from the 70s or something, can't remember exactly what he said.

    • @devendasmusic
      @devendasmusic 2 месяца назад +1

      The tracked 4 pairs of rhythms with tons of different amps, so it gives that huge detuned chorus effect

  • @viktorahlin4075
    @viktorahlin4075 2 года назад +2

    You really need to react to some CKY! "96 quite bitter beings", followed up by "Escape from hellview" would be a good start! You probably take requests from patreon or something, but this you wont regret! Bam Margeras brother plays the drums and Bam has produced most of their music videos.

  • @ricardosilvalacerda3959
    @ricardosilvalacerda3959 2 года назад +1

    'Nostrum' always cause me shivers!

  • @drumkidstu
    @drumkidstu 2 года назад +5

    This is by far their most technical work they've ever put out. Just sit with it and it'll click like a good whiskey. Try really looking for the snare rather than the cymbals on this album. Tomas has really been avoiding giving a straight groove on the cymbals. But the groove is held by the snare and it grooves ridiculously hard.

  • @bluemario89
    @bluemario89 2 года назад +8

    Brother if you want more groove go listen to the Koloss and Chaosphere albums

  • @rubaidaallen2764
    @rubaidaallen2764 2 года назад +3

    Great album 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @WebsterA
    @WebsterA 2 года назад +1

    I realize you're not a musician.
    You've said it a few times.
    But you seem to have a knack for the Meshuggah groove.
    Sometimes, they really challenge us.
    I've said it before, but if you try and find the "groups of note cycles" that the guitars do, your understanding and appreciation will skyrocket.
    It takes a bit of pausing. Sometimes even some graph paper. But it's the most rewarding music decoding there is.
    Cheers, Drew!
    Thanks for these!

  • @PB-EASY
    @PB-EASY 2 года назад +1

    I appreciate your honest reaction. Even though this album is in my top 3 of theirs, I can see where you're coming from. I think we can all agree that this is BY FAR their most aggressive album to date and can hit some listeners in the face so hard and so fast that, before they know it, the album's over and you're left wondering and not completely understanding what just happened. Totally get it.

  • @anthonyharding4380
    @anthonyharding4380 2 года назад +1

    I get all songs on this album except Into Decay, it's still growing on me...I hope ;)

  • @educostanzo
    @educostanzo 2 года назад +1

    You should really check Vildhjarta's 2021 album Masstaden Under Vatten if you like this. Challenging, innovative, crazy af songwriting and massive production. It's like if Meshuggah ate a lot of weird mushrooms.

  • @Issyllest
    @Issyllest 2 года назад

    Luv your reaction bro, keep it up!

  • @WebsterA
    @WebsterA 2 года назад +2

    Dude, 33:45 you had that math shit going on screen and you looked at the camera and shrugged.
    Fuck, I laughed.
    If Meshuggah didn't confuse the shit out of us constantly, it wouldn't be the same. Haha.
    Find those chug-groups!

  • @TricksyDK
    @TricksyDK 2 года назад +2

    You think you have heard Meshuggsh tonight you know you have 😁🤘 have an awesome concert

  • @mikusrojus
    @mikusrojus 2 года назад +1

    Oh yeah, Chaosphere is the reason I really dig into Meshuggah, highly recommended by me, pure chaos and insanity, You surely should listen to this album!

  • @anaguma90
    @anaguma90 5 месяцев назад

    What an opening Clockworks is. I always have imagery in my mind of huge machines moving when I listen to Meshuggah, and this one sounds like some kind of enormous engine.

  • @megagalactickanye454
    @megagalactickanye454 Год назад +1

    The two dudes in the comments suggesting "puritanical euphoric misanthropia" and "exoplanet" are spot on. Two great metal albums.

  • @JBthree24
    @JBthree24 7 месяцев назад +2

    This album was recorded at the event horizon

  • @coreymcnaught
    @coreymcnaught 2 года назад +2

    The volume ducking a little is fine. It’s a reaction. I agree, if your listening for the album then just go listen to the album.

  • @brucegilstrap9971
    @brucegilstrap9971 Год назад +1

    All about the head nod, this whole record. 10/10 also, clockworks solo, the back guitar is literally the same damn note the entire time and doesn’t change. Took me years to figure it out. This record also helped me through one of the hardest times in my life. Love that I get to live along side this record

  • @emilklamer6938
    @emilklamer6938 Год назад

    go back to this album again!
    we need to see your progression!!

  • @ZombryaTheDark
    @ZombryaTheDark Год назад

    I hope meshuggah live changes your life my friend. My favorite band of all time

  • @megagalactickanye454
    @megagalactickanye454 Год назад

    That breakdown in born in dissonance is great. Just this tension snapping constant descending sound.

  • @senseicorey9979
    @senseicorey9979 Год назад

    When I listen to this album I feel like the guy the album cover. The music just fully encompasses me and pulls me in

  • @ghosty7234
    @ghosty7234 2 года назад +1

    YEEEESSSSSSSSSSS

  • @kylereece1979
    @kylereece1979 2 года назад +1

    Theres a superb band called Evergrey. Ultra melodic, powerful, masterfully dark atmospheric rock from Sweden. They've just dropped a damn good new album, "A Heartless Portrait". Deep deep downtuned grooves, cinematic lush swells of keyboards and instantaneously contagious , meaningful vocal melodies and soaring solos. All clean tone vocals, belted out from the heart. "Save Us" and "Midwinter Calls" are good tracks to check out in yer own time, m'chara.

  • @johnarchibald6
    @johnarchibald6 2 года назад +2

    Lmao Drew listen close when you said you need a physics degree to headbang to this, you can hear the High hat 1,2,1,2 under the crazy whew whanew what whauwhanehwnew lol you got to find what they are trying to do with the drums and God Help you to try to head bang to Meshuggah on the first couple listens sticking with the guitar.

  • @CristianFlores-jd6xg
    @CristianFlores-jd6xg 10 месяцев назад

    Straight up simply put, you’re not ready for this music. This music takes a very in tune ear and all you’re listening to is looking for a “groove”.
    Once you’ve become in tune with this music it all becomes a “groove”

  • @TheDjentleman77
    @TheDjentleman77 2 года назад +2

    Meshuggah definitely mess with your head! 😅 Looking forward to the next album, a few more to go. 😉 Enjoy your live experience, you’re definitely in for a treat! 🤘🏻🔥

    • @DrewFortune97
      @DrewFortune97  2 года назад +2

      Thank you brother!

    • @TheDjentleman77
      @TheDjentleman77 2 года назад +1

      Are we getting a review on the concert?! Would love to hear your thoughts. 🤙🏻

    • @DrewFortune97
      @DrewFortune97  2 года назад +2

      @@TheDjentleman77 yessir! I’m probably going to upload it as a Patreon exclusive for a week or so! So it will probably be live only on Patreon for a week, will decide after if it will go on RUclips as a full video!

  • @flesruoYkcuFoGuoY
    @flesruoYkcuFoGuoY 15 дней назад

    Hearing Meshuggah live made me understand it. Not helped me, MADE me. After I saw them perform on the VSOR tour in 2016 (I think) I just fucking got it.

  • @ryantowell
    @ryantowell 2 года назад +1

    Best album they've ever done. Every track is a bonecrusher.

  • @sebastienbrouillard
    @sebastienbrouillard Год назад

    I listened to this album for 2 years straight going back and forth from work when I bought the CD. Basically the whole album every day.
    My kids remember too.

  • @JL-ql2jo
    @JL-ql2jo Год назад

    Your genuine confusion during “Into Decay” was priceless 😂. After about 10 listens, the groove reveals itself and the song completely transforms. Same thing with “Stifled”; the verse goes from a unpredictable overload to a calm, calculated, groove. That’s one of the things I love about this band, it *is* challenging, but the structure they put forth so masterfully becomes formidable. The raw energy of other metal bands is a fun wild ride, but it loses its charm like an unhinged adhd person(me) does over time. Meshuggah is disciplined, not just technical, and the combo of those makes the music almost scary enjoyable. Don’t give up on this album!

  • @lukeholicki
    @lukeholicki 2 года назад +1

    I think it's fine to talk and I enjoy it! But maybe don't have the music volume go as low as it does when you talk? Love the vids!

  • @bigfannypack
    @bigfannypack 2 года назад +1

    Oh I’ve already commented, and watching this again and noticed something.. Tomas Haake actually writes 90% of the lyrics.. he’s the drummer.

  • @AndrewKlinger
    @AndrewKlinger 2 года назад +1

    vildhjarta - masstaden under vatten for your next full album! So much stank face

  • @Shacon24
    @Shacon24 9 месяцев назад +1

    Once you understand this album, everything else sound like pop music man

  • @vincentbass90
    @vincentbass90 2 года назад +3

    Ivory Tower is a 6/8

  • @raymorin7726
    @raymorin7726 2 года назад +2

    Has drew done any orbit culture yet if not saw is a great start

  • @niiiiklas
    @niiiiklas 2 года назад +2

    IMO Clockworks, Born in Dissonance and Our Rage Wont Die is in their top 5, they grow on you over time. The other ones on this album is not so "good" for me.