I love this, thank you Rupert. There is no life, there is no death, we are beautiful illusions, little pieces of pristine awareness dancing in the play of material creation.
Beautiful, Rupert. “Is there anything to your experience of your body other than the knowing of it?” That is elegant, swift, direct. Brings all experience into its natural seamless unity; back to the one taste all tastes are made of. That inquiry so potent. The “substance” of all experience, god I love that.
There is. It is the experience of the (mind of the) other. You can choose to stay lost in your mind, but when you encounter other minds, and they all agree your leg is broken, then in this shared reality there is a shared truth that is independent of your mind's experience.
@@IronX77 @Ess Ay It's funny you say this. I was playing touch football one day and I jumped to tap another player well running I landed on my arm. I had no idea at first until one of the eleven people around me said, "Your arm is broken". I looked down and noticed it was. After I saw my arm dangling I screamed and panicked. We don't share the same mind but we do share the same consciousness 😉.
The laser-sharp elegance of Rupert's questions to guide a confused mind into self-investigation through the experience of solidity without reference or location in space! As hard as the questioner's mind seems unable to fully understand and properly follow the directions, his inexorable questions, in their simplicity and beauty, reveal consciousness revealing itself, as (the apparent) Mr. Spira, with patience, sharp love, keeps meeting the questioner where she is-yet, unwavering-and points to the highest healing for that very confusion.
@@venkataramanakaranth4491 imo he is allowing his inner mind to convey its knowingness into words. His training and resultant vocabulary affords his inner mind access to this to communicate with such incredible clarity. As an analogy, he uses a scalpel when many gifted others uses a hunting knife
I live with a saint who does this sometimes. But he says he's waiting... For the Divine to channel through him. He doesn't have to volitionally 'create' something, he just watches, witnesses.
"...unless you become like a child, you can not enter....". Great analogy on the newborn child who has no memories, just the now. And experience not filtered with the past or future.
"Truly, I tell you; anyone who does not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.” Mark 10:15 I heard this a while ago as a Bible quote and really loved it 🙂 This is a perfect video to share it!
We mistakenly identify with the instrument of perception, "forgetting" we are the source of all perception: Consciousness... There is nothing other than Consciousness.
While meditating and bumping into resistance my pain level goes up immediately. This has been helpful to see how my mind created the experience of pain. My back surgery has become less of a reality when I see how my mind created such pain to an issue I was resisting in meditation. I practiced getting out of Jane's mind and found peace in Mary's. More and more. It is good. Thank you Rupert for pointing the way.
You mean those pauses. The standard bullshit power move he pulls before he winds down his standard bullshit guru program of telling people that they do not really exist yet they are part of something bigger and their problems just manifest, because they haven’t got that by now. The person seeking help is presented with a double bait that promises peace of mind: infantilization through regression with simultaneous self-enhancement. ….yeah, very impressive.
@@derhafi Do I detect a certain cynicism in your evaluation of Rupert's guidance?(I think I do, so what exactly is it you're trying to achieve through judging it as such?).
@@kwixoticFrom my point of few, calling it applied scepticism might be more accurate. I’m accusing this quacksalver of being motivated purely by self-interest yes, admittedly I can not rule out that he actually believes that he has mysteriously powers that allows him to see the universe in the way he displays it. Given that his version of reality is in odds with actual science, that “power” would be called: delusion, and is barely an excuse for his shady business model clearly targeting people who deserve better than this nonsense. Actual insight is in no need of conjuror tricks of the cheapest kind like Spira is using on a regular basis. My hope is that, someone who needs actual help, might see Spira as the hot air producing useless quack that he is, before wasting ones time and money in him. I hope you detect the noble altruism in this, as you did with “a certain cynicism”.
@@derhafi You state that you "can not rule out that he actually believes he has mysterious powers", etc., but can you prove it? Until then, you're merely speculating about what you've termed his "conjuror tricks." I will concede that what's being offered in the retreats(which I attended on one occasion) is in fact no panacea. I experienced an ephemeral bliss on that occasion. However, I recently had some neurological based issue which in my experience could not be resolved regardless of how much self inquiry based meditation I was doing and have been doing for years. But I think Rupert would also readily acknowledge the limitations to his approach in the face of medical issues and in fact has done so though perhaps not to the extent you'd wish for.
Listening to Rupert in this video is itself a meditation and self inquiry and as they say in Advaita (Listen, Contemplate and Practice meditation)...all of this happens at once. I envy his calm demeanor, an ocean of knowledge gently pushing each wave at us so that we can consume at our own pace and sanely!
this is very powerful! thanks for sharing. It's the power of now: drop the labels, filters, past experiences that we bring forward to interpret our current "sensations" and those sensations don't have any power over us.
I would say the microphone is solid because it opposes what I am doing (squeezing the handle). So you can't know the microphone is solid unless you try and change it. So anything that opposes your action is solid.
"A place we call here!" I had an OBE where I was in space. I didn't have a body but at the same time, I had the awareness of a planet that appeared to be in any place at any time. At one time my nonphysical face was pressed against a bone-like planet! then it would appear to be at a distance or it was in my nonphysical hand. When I asked how this was possible that the distance could change on a dime IT said, "Because YOU are bigger" Boom! bigger than a planet!? IT said, your are pure consciousness and hyper-aware. I will never forget what that felt like. To imagine (imagination being greater than knowledge) myself in that space-time was so freeing. The bondage of the body removed is OMazing.
We need to understand that a realized person as Rupert do not see the questioner as a separated self but as infinite consciousness. What infinite consciousness in Rupert is doing Is showing to the questioner that she do not share the limitations of her body mind and this is the ultimately healing Later he clarify that if she feel any pain in the body the best she can do is to visit the doctor
Finite mind must vanish before infinite consciousness can be Realized. Avatar Meher Baba said it best when he discoursed: “Mind wants to know that which is beyond mind. To know that which is beyond mind, mind must go-vanish, leaving no vestige of itself behind. The humour of it is, the mind, which is finite, wants to retain itself and yet know Truth, which is infinite. This is the position of those who seek Truth through intellect. Few grasp this fact, and so most grope and grapple in vain. “ -Meher Baba
Rupert always speaks metaphorically. There are no solid objects, only fields of action. This was determined back in the 1930s with quantum field theory. These fields of action (words being proxy for the reality) are possibly the "screen" that Rupert constantly refers to. Our bodies, thoughts, actions are all part of this array of intermeshed fields. There is no supernatural realm, only here and now in the beautiful interplay of multiple "energetic" fields of action. Some of these fields of action are immortal, which is to say they act instantaneously across all time and matter. These fields may be the source of intuition, forecasting, telepathy, etc..
I think infinite intelligence by its very nature knows everything that there is to know and does not have to localise in our brains to increase its knowledge. And as time is an illusion everything that is known must be known now. Nothing can be added or taken away from the perfection that is consciousness. I feel there must be another explanation for our stint on Earth and the reason our lives are full of challenge. I just get the feeling that this is not right.
God externalises Himself as man(let Us ie. The Elohim plural Godhead make man...kind, in our image and after our own likeness).....because without man...kind God can do, experience, have dominion etc.... NOTHING.God needs man for His EXPRESS purposes/ expression. Man is immortal as His Father is......Infinite Immortal "hear o Israel.. The Lord our God- is One- Lord. God is all in all
Without judging disease as good or bad and by accepting it with pure love, even pain can be considered a gift of experience. Obviously, as Rupert stated, we must take care of the body when it is sick, but the idea of labeling the pain and sickness as negative/suffering comes from fear out of the ego and not pure awareness/consciousness. And besides, the body can't live forever! Something will eventually kill it off. That's why we're able to experience love through the sacredness of life. I'm not trying to preach, just trying to understand as well! Please add or refute to help me out.
My Dearest Beloved In the Omnipresence of God there can be no darkness. Darkness is belief but belief is not Truth. All ill forms are illusions and must be seen as such. It is a distorting seeing of a mind ladened w beliefs and it is the release of those distorting beliefs that results in true seeing the eternal and everpresent Perfection of Being here and now ---only God Is. There is only the I Am Life the God Life nothing else is true. The release of faulty beliefs can be done through forgiveness which can be explored more via ACIM or in Silence which can be explored more www.miracleself com or in prayers sincerely asking for the truth of any situation for true seeing or understanding and trust that the answer will be given in one form or another that you will know beyond amy doubt. I send you all the Love and Blessings. You are Divine and can only be Divine --Formless and Form---nothing else is true. Herein lies the Peace of God❤
Thank you Rupert, sometimes you are too conclusive. It's understandable though of course because of the type of culture your most familiar with teaching.
@@emendatus1 It's only dangerous if you believe you are a separate solid being in this life, so you have something to hold on to. There is nothing to hold on to, since waking life is a dream aswell. It's so blissfull to let yourself freely shift between states of conciousness, waking/dreaming/meditation.. Only if you believe you have something to protect, you feel fear.
There never is "a" driver. Can you locate this "mind"/"self"/"driver"? It is the same as with the movie that is projected onto the screen. It is projected from a single source, i.e., the projection booth. None of the apparent characters on the screen are thinkers, doers, or perceivers. Each seeming entity on the screen is actually a vacant domicile. The cosmic drama is like the movie.
@@joajoajb _"The driver and the driven both are concepts , ..."_ That's in your estimation. All concepts (bar none) are merely thought-forms. All thought forms occur as events *_within Consciousness_* therefore Consciousness cannot be a concept, it is where all concepts happen. Consciousness is the "non local driver" that i'm referencing here.
@@joajoajb _"Concepts are not just limited to the mind' way of thinking ,.."_ I never said that. I just said that ALL concepts must occur within Consciousness, you've said nothing to refute that. The Mind is not consciousness by the way, consciousness is the ground of mind. _"the entire universe of space- time movement is itself another concept occuring within the knowledge "I AM CONSCIOUS", .."_ "I Am Conscious" is a statement of *living and present cognizance* not knowledge. Knowledge is merely collected data. The ""vase" that contains knowledge is cognizance, knowledge is inert and inanimate, cognizance *_uses knowledge as it sees fit._* Knowledge is therefore nothing more than memory, collected from the past. That which KNOWS that knowledge is cognizance or consciousness. Knowledge is inanimate data or information, cognizance is ALIVE and present and is the faculty of KNOWING. Knowing is always conflated with knowledge by most...yourself included apparently. Consciousness is the Universal "driver" the universal KNOWER of all experiences. Which includes all memories (or knowledge) and concepts. _" Rupert has a very limited conceptual view of the Absolute."_ ?? ..and yours is much more comprehensive i imagine. _"Rupert thinks he's positing towards life, he is not. He's positing towards illusory representations of life by Ignorance."_ Many folk come into these threads professing to be experts on the absolute. Forgive me if (from your verbal demonstrations and conflations so far) i don't particularly find your sagacity super convincing.
What is particularly revealing about having this woman undertake this role as the newly born infant is that once fully immersed in only the experience of perception/sensation, she has(without judgement or interpretation), she wouldn't know she even possessed a body or was a body. Hence the declaration stating that "we are not the body." But of course in the relative world, bodies abound and deserve treatment if they become ill or disabled.
It needs the illusion being a person with "my" thoughts, "my" feelings, "my" body in order to experience consciousness consciously, being aware of itself through the form, called human. So one leads to another, one depends on the other one, there is no truth, that is more true than another one, yet there is just one truth, out of which all what seems to be true is born and can be experienced.
To experience our very being like a newborn again with no memories would be bliss.. "If you hold on to that past Don't you lock yourself inside Nothing has been done before It’s the most virgin dress you could possibly wear.. Hold your memory for a moment, with a blind hand Write some stories for tomorrow From the bottle of amnesia Find instructions, to salvation To oblivion supreme Don’t be tempted to look back It has all happened before"
What a great question: “Why use me?” A perfect set-up question. I only wish Rupert had jumped on that question and chased it further down the rabbit hole of Non-Duality. E.g., There is no “me” to use, only infinite Consciousness pretending to be all the “me’s” in this room, while forgetting its own true nature. Infinite Consciousness did not select ‘you’ out of some cosmic storage room filled with individual, ready-to-wear “me’s”, but, instead, localized or filtered its own infinite Self into a unique and newly-imagined body and mind called, ‘Josephine’ (whatever the lady’s name is), through which you now see and talk to this ‘me’ (Rupert pointing to himself). And, this ‘me’ consists of the exact same infinite Self filtered through a different body/mind called ‘Rupert’ that is talking to ‘you’. In reality, there is only one infinite Person in this room - talking to Itself. (Yes, Rupert did respond to this great question, but only reluctantly as a passing comment.)
Brad Stephan you basically re-phrased his exact response with the reference to the Peter, John, and Henry story. And I wasn’t a passing comment, it was almost the last two minutes of the video.
@@cristovaljesusamado8455 Truly fascinating - and true! Not the solipsism of modern psychology, but Advaitic solipsism. I look forward to reading more of eka jiva vada (I am alone) - thanks.
The finite mind is how the infinite realizes its actual potential?? The error in this statement he makes is breathtaking! To begin with, there is no "finite" "mind". The infinite does not need the "finite", which doesn't exist. Infinite being is not understood through imagined limitation. The infinite knows itself without a medium. It does not need a "medium" of a nonexistent entity or thing in order to know itself.
True and the opposite also ... The infinite knows itself by being itself, but doesn’t know the finite ... if it would know the finite as itself, it would not be infinite. To know the finite, the infinite withdraws into itself and dreamily it creates the circumstances to experience the finite, and in order to experience the finite it must overlook itself as infinite. To return the other way around, the process itself is the same. The finite has to realise its true nature and has to finds its way back to the infinity by realizing that it was never finite.
@@joajoajb oh, do you really know the Absolute? great! It seems to me (??) that you (??) are dualistic in each word you tell. and me also am, obviously ;) If you do get the words and don't get the analogy through which they may convey some intuition of the Reality ... sorry, you are still in a limited perspective. I think you should know the sanscrit word "Lila". What does it mean, according to your mind? Namaste. :)
@@clckwrk0rng391 The infinite cannot "withdraw into" itself to "become" the finite. The seeming finite arises only from the one belief in objectivity which acts as a lens or filter through which consciousness then misperceives itself. It is this one belief in objectivity that seems to shatter the wholeness and perfect indivisibility of Mind, giving rise to countless bits of data, in belief only. This data appears to be solid and material. It appears to be a world.
This method does not exactly heal the body or mental problems or moral evil. It only relativizes them. It makes you live for a certain moment without the knowledge of all those problems in your thoughts, but it cannot get rid of their effect even when they are being transcended. One can ignore that the person is with certain illness like a child but the illness nevertheless is harming the child. The same with moral evil. Regardless of relativizing things that at any given moment are opposite to peace and love, like being angry for no good reason or too worry or anxious, does not deal with the issue, it only covers it, the evil and anxiety is still undercover. The path of liberation is found in another not in me nor by me, it has to come and He has come and done it completely in all the realms of existence.
I find that to take in deeply what Rupert says, I have to relax to feel a certain degree of inner peace so that I can really listen. Then I have to give what he is saying my full attention. I also have to be aware of my habitual ingrained mind constructs so that I can put them aside to take in new information. Then I have to allow a spirit of openness and receptivity so that I can connect with Awareness to allow everything to really sink in so that it can have more impact then just another of the many youtube videos I watch. Hehehe ........ it’s working ..... I can feel the transformation seeping in over time ..... oh wait! My bad! There is no time ;) Love to everyone, and peace ☮️ 💜 from an old hippie 😂
A temporary appearance within the seamless whole. Like a bubble in a pot of boiling water. Like a leaf on a tree. Perhaps even life and consciousness itself has no real substance. Only an appearance and then gone. Repeating endlessly in endless variation. The whole of reality in friction with itself until it finally finds equilibrium again. Our selves just one of the many manifestations of this yin yang interaction.
A pinching off of infinite is but a dream....💙 Similarly, there is no on/off Sun. There is only an obstruction of the Sun that creates an illusion of darkness. Finally, be aware of the body's positioning after awakening from a dream & KNOW that circulation had been hindered while sleep. (Like, one slept while the head rested on the arm) 👂 ...video tape it.
Is strange and contradictory to speak of "consciousness wanting to know other than..." how can something that is infinite and perfect knowing wants to know other than itself if consciousness itself must know by necessity even what is not? Does consciousness lack knowledge? At what point in infinity did he lacked knowledge or wanted to know something that did not know already? God knows every other level from the infinite opposite covering all degrees to Himself already. He knows infinitely what He is not, as part of His knowledge of who he is.
In a manner of speaking, yes. The self, ego, the little me, the narrator 'lives' within both space and time, but only from the perspective of the self.
A baby, any one, would be aware of the feeling of laying on a matress and laying on a concrete floor, is it not? If not, wouldn't more people sleep on concrete floors? I don't see the point he is trying to make regarding hardness as a concept for our experience.
When the pain becomes unbearable and consciousness blacks out and disappears forever, the insignificant life that was means nothing and never meant anything. Alas, we are all fools and life? An accident. Peace is only possible with youth and health. The body is a bitxh! And death the only Truth.
do you get the point ? i am not , maybe pain is just truth , keep wandering , if you just keep healthy , other way is unpossible to get in mind , only thing we have is mind , and mind is always ill , more or less , sairam
interesting but I don't identify with the without-buoyancy approach to understanding the universe. "as above so below", not "there is no above or below" lol
Even animals "interpret" their experience. They have to distinguish between the sensation of an headache and the sensation of the claws of another animal on their skins. For survival. So it is not only humans, that do the "interpretation". Do animals get enlightenment?. Can anyone from a primitive tribe be in a non-dual state as suggested in these talks? No matter what you think, there is some reality in matter, maybe not the ultimate one. But if you see a lion, you'd better run away. I don't think that the aim of a spiritual path is to find ultimate reality, but to find meaning and possibly lasting peace in our own life, and this can be achieved by going deeper into the experience of the self.
I heard a story about a young boy who saw a bird for the first time, and it was considered a shame that he was told that it was a bird because the next time and from now on when he sees 🐦 he will not see the bird- but the word bird. Is that the same thing?
As long as we consider ourselves separate, living in separate minds, we need concepts to communicate about experience. The concept is not the experience and the word or the image is a symbol for the concept, so twice removed from the experience. The concept is limited, the experience is limitless. The word symbolises the limits, a piece cut out if the whole. The word can never be the same as the experience. If you keep the concept and the word and throw away the experience, you bypass life, lose the real thing, here and now
But why does infinite and formless consciousnes want to see anything else apart from itself if there is truly nothing else apart from formless & infinite consciousness?? Can't just consciousness stay as infinite and formless which is its true nature rather than giving birth to entity called mind through which infinte consciousness experience various finite experiences??As rupert said through human beings consciousness realizes its infinite/finite potential.It means is there somebody else who is running the show?why does consciousness wants to know its power/potential??In other words Does consciousness create these so called finite objects i.e world(human beings and other finite objects) for its own recreation bcz it gets bored of being infinite & foamless or is there any other purpose ??Pls somebody reply.
Mr Rupert, why do you reffer to consciousness as an entity? Isnt consciousness the medium for existence and its fabric? Every time you personify consciousness one of your students falls a step behind. The "Red queen" rule
Is consciousness even a thing? Or just a manifestation? An illusion? I'm starting to have doubts about it too. Is life just something that arises in a universe like this? Manifests among the "10,000 things" and then returns? As Loazi says?
@@daithiocinnsealach1982out of curiousity i took a liberty to sneak a peek of your channel and i must tell you man, it's a hell of a gem. Very interesting content. Thanks man :) Spiritual teachers carry incredible responsibility on their shoulders because the people who flock around them usually seek some sort of mental rellief. Incredible responsibility. Sometimes i see questioneers completely brainwashed. The questions they would ask would be insane in every respect. And i feel sorry for those folks... and it seems that the longer they entertain spiritual genre the more messed up they get. Enlightenment and understanding of consciousness shouldnt be that hard. With the propper wording, with sincere intentions, every spiritual teacher should know how to pull them back to ground and tell them straight up - man...you're trippin dude! Maybe i'm the one who's tripping, for all i know, it just breaks my heart to see people loosing their marbles over a simple understanding of what's going on.
Thanks. The mind finds it very hard to let go of injustices. When it see the privileged white classes oppressing billions it feels a blood thirsty murderous rage. Very hard to be with these feelings. Please advise
There is only ONE CONSCIOUSNESS living all things and all beings. The separation is in the mind. Injustices and privileged people are all part of the story. There is plenty of help available on RUclips and I recommend Cittaviveka Monastery, or Amaravati Monastery for Buddhist Meditation U.K. and talks by such teachers as Tony Parsons and Eckhart Tolle which are freely available on RUclips. Blessings & Peace to you.
The mind is neutral....we have eaten of the tree of Good and Evil which therefore colours our mind. All we need is a change of diet......whatsoever is good, lovely, peaceable, wholesome and edifying think on these things....
Please, please let me know what he says in this sentence: I am giving you now to the direct access to highest healing: What you are now is in perfect..... What? I am not able to understand ?????
Rupert is pointing to the fact that ultimately the questioner is pure consciousness manifesting in the relative world trough her body mind complex Her body could be ill and the best she can do in this case is to visit the doctor But the healing to which Rupert is referring is not the healing of her material body but the realization that what she really is do not share the limitation of her physical body
@@glynemartin Yes! The infinite does not know the finite... or need the finite...in order to experience Reality. There aren't "two" realities. There is just divine Reality being misperceived as it is seen through the distortion of the belief in objectivity. Objectivity is just a belief. It does not constitute an actual world. The world is imagined... and exists only in imagination, and this imagining is utterly impersonal "knowing".
This is very interesting but you are quite dogmatic about all this. No one can know everything, please remember.. :) Also life is not an abstract thing, it's a living "thing".
I love this, thank you Rupert. There is no life, there is no death, we are beautiful illusions, little pieces of pristine awareness dancing in the play of material creation.
Love it! 💗
Beautiful, Rupert. “Is there anything to your experience of your body other than the knowing of it?” That is elegant, swift, direct. Brings all experience into its natural seamless unity; back to the one taste all tastes are made of. That inquiry so potent. The “substance” of all experience, god I love that.
There is. It is the experience of the (mind of the) other. You can choose to stay lost in your mind, but when you encounter other minds, and they all agree your leg is broken, then in this shared reality there is a shared truth that is independent of your mind's experience.
@Ali Netherlands science bro
@@IronX77 @Ess Ay It's funny you say this. I was playing touch football one day and I jumped to tap another player well running I landed on my arm. I had no idea at first until one of the eleven people around me said, "Your arm is broken". I looked down and noticed it was. After I saw my arm dangling I screamed and panicked. We don't share the same mind but we do share the same consciousness 😉.
The laser-sharp elegance of Rupert's questions to guide a confused mind into self-investigation through the experience of solidity without reference or location in space! As hard as the questioner's mind seems unable to fully understand and properly follow the directions, his inexorable questions, in their simplicity and beauty, reveal consciousness revealing itself, as (the apparent) Mr. Spira, with patience, sharp love, keeps meeting the questioner where she is-yet, unwavering-and points to the highest healing for that very confusion.
🌾 What a CV ! Beautifully said 🌷
I think she did wonderfully, and considering our conditioning, followed the directions really well.
I love how he takes the time to think about his answer before speaking
and expresses guidance in a way like no other
Is he thinking about answer or allowing listener to be settled to learn the answer?
@@venkataramanakaranth4491 imo he is allowing his inner mind to convey its knowingness into words. His training and resultant vocabulary affords his inner mind access to this to communicate with such incredible clarity. As an analogy, he uses a scalpel when many gifted others uses a hunting knife
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I live with a saint who does this sometimes. But he says he's waiting... For the Divine to channel through him. He doesn't have to volitionally 'create' something, he just watches, witnesses.
"...unless you become like a child, you can not enter....". Great analogy on the newborn child who has no memories, just the now. And experience not filtered with the past or future.
"Truly, I tell you; anyone who does not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.” Mark 10:15
I heard this a while ago as a Bible quote and really loved it 🙂 This is a perfect video to share it!
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We are a unique perspective of infinite conciousness ❤️
We mistakenly identify with the instrument of perception, "forgetting" we are the source of all perception: Consciousness... There is nothing other than Consciousness.
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While meditating and bumping into resistance my pain level goes up immediately. This has been helpful to see how my mind created the experience of pain. My back surgery has become less of a reality when I see how my mind created such pain to an issue I was resisting in meditation. I practiced getting out of Jane's mind and found peace in Mary's. More and more. It is good. Thank you Rupert for pointing the way.
I absolutely Love the way Rupert absorbs the question before answering it.
You mean those pauses. The standard bullshit power move he pulls before he winds down his standard bullshit guru program of telling people that they do not really exist yet they are part of something bigger and their problems just manifest, because they haven’t got that by now. The person seeking help is presented with a double bait that promises peace of mind: infantilization through regression with simultaneous self-enhancement.
….yeah, very impressive.
@@derhafi 🌾 Mind your language Rob, as you are using social media here .. and yes, i dó care what i read, regardless your opinion. Shame on you ! 😔
@@derhafi Do I detect a certain cynicism in your evaluation of Rupert's guidance?(I think I do, so what exactly is it you're trying to achieve through judging it as such?).
@@kwixoticFrom my point of few, calling it applied scepticism might be more accurate. I’m accusing this quacksalver of being motivated purely by self-interest yes, admittedly I can not rule out that he actually believes that he has mysteriously powers that allows him to see the universe in the way he displays it.
Given that his version of reality is in odds with actual science, that “power” would be called: delusion, and is barely an excuse for his shady business model clearly targeting people who deserve better than this nonsense. Actual insight is in no need of conjuror tricks of the cheapest kind like Spira is using on a regular basis.
My hope is that, someone who needs actual help, might see Spira as the hot air producing useless quack that he is, before wasting ones time and money in him. I hope you detect the noble altruism in this, as you did with “a certain cynicism”.
@@derhafi You state that you "can not rule out that he actually believes he has mysterious powers", etc., but can you prove it? Until then, you're merely speculating about what you've termed his "conjuror tricks."
I will concede that what's being offered in the retreats(which I attended on one occasion) is in fact no panacea. I experienced an ephemeral bliss on that occasion. However, I recently had some neurological based issue which in my experience could not be resolved regardless of how much self inquiry based meditation I was doing and have been doing for years. But I think Rupert would also readily acknowledge the limitations to his approach in the face of medical issues and in fact has done so though perhaps not to the extent you'd wish for.
Beautifully explained Rupert , immense gratitude for your compassion and love ❤
Listening to Rupert in this video is itself a meditation and self inquiry and as they say in Advaita (Listen, Contemplate and Practice meditation)...all of this happens at once. I envy his calm demeanor, an ocean of knowledge gently pushing each wave at us so that we can consume at our own pace and sanely!
Deep gratitude for this, it is so so helpful for my understanding
This is such a perfect timing for this topic, I was just contemplating. Love and gratitude
What are you learning?
this is very powerful! thanks for sharing. It's the power of now: drop the labels, filters, past experiences that we bring forward to interpret our current "sensations" and those sensations don't have any power over us.
I would say the microphone is solid because it opposes what I am doing (squeezing the handle). So you can't know the microphone is solid unless you try and change it. So anything that opposes your action is solid.
"I'm just upgrading the matter model to the consciousness model."
Me too
Thank you Rupert, so easily understood every time you speak.
Incredible explanation!, Thanks to consciousness manifesting Rupert to explain these type of questions of the finite mind!
so much respect and gratitude to rupert such a wonderful master teacher🙏💗🙏
9:50 ...what you NOW is always in perfect health.
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At another level, you're interpretation is just experience too.
Inspirational interpretation teaching. Immense Gratitude.
"A place we call here!" I had an OBE where I was in space. I didn't have a body but at the same time, I had the awareness of a planet that appeared to be in any place at any time. At one time my nonphysical face was pressed against a bone-like planet! then it would appear to be at a distance or it was in my nonphysical hand. When I asked how this was possible that the distance could change on a dime IT said, "Because YOU are bigger" Boom! bigger than a planet!? IT said, your are pure consciousness and hyper-aware. I will never forget what that felt like. To imagine (imagination being greater than knowledge) myself in that space-time was so freeing. The bondage of the body removed is OMazing.
Wow this sounds very liberating
Love it
We need to understand that a realized person as Rupert do not see the questioner as a separated self but as infinite consciousness. What infinite consciousness in Rupert is doing Is showing to the questioner that she do not share the limitations of her body mind and this is the ultimately healing Later he clarify that if she feel any pain in the body the best she can do is to visit the doctor
Finite mind must vanish before infinite consciousness can be Realized. Avatar Meher Baba said it best when he discoursed:
“Mind wants to know that which is beyond mind. To know that
which is beyond mind, mind must go-vanish, leaving no vestige
of itself behind. The humour of it is, the mind, which is finite,
wants to retain itself and yet know Truth, which is infinite. This is
the position of those who seek Truth through intellect. Few grasp
this fact, and so most grope and grapple in vain. “
-Meher Baba
How does Rupert always end up with a stunning bouquet anywhere he speaks?
You see the world once as a child...the rest is memory.
Rupert always speaks metaphorically. There are no solid objects, only fields of action. This was determined back in the 1930s with quantum field theory. These fields of action (words being proxy for the reality) are possibly the "screen" that Rupert constantly refers to. Our bodies, thoughts, actions are all part of this array of intermeshed fields. There is no supernatural realm, only here and now in the beautiful interplay of multiple "energetic" fields of action. Some of these fields of action are immortal, which is to say they act instantaneously across all time and matter. These fields may be the source of intuition, forecasting, telepathy, etc..
I think infinite intelligence by its very nature knows everything that there is to know and does not have to localise in our brains to increase its knowledge. And as time is an illusion everything that is known must be known now. Nothing can be added or taken away from the perfection that is consciousness. I feel there must be another explanation for our stint on Earth and the reason our lives are full of challenge. I just get the feeling that this is not right.
Call me superficial, but only Rupert videos with flowers I can really enjoy.
Agreed.
Nothing wrong listening to other great teachers of our time like Mooji, Eckart Tolle, Aaron Abke etc. Stay blessed 😇
@@elmarieking9590 No. They don't have flowers.
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God externalises Himself as man(let Us ie. The Elohim plural Godhead make man...kind, in our image and after our own likeness).....because without man...kind God can do, experience, have dominion etc.... NOTHING.God needs man for His EXPRESS purposes/ expression.
Man is immortal as His Father is......Infinite Immortal "hear o Israel..
The Lord our God- is One- Lord. God is all in all
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Without judging disease as good or bad and by accepting it with pure love, even pain can be considered a gift of experience. Obviously, as Rupert stated, we must take care of the body when it is sick, but the idea of labeling the pain and sickness as negative/suffering comes from fear out of the ego and not pure awareness/consciousness.
And besides, the body can't live forever! Something will eventually kill it off. That's why we're able to experience love through the sacredness of life.
I'm not trying to preach, just trying to understand as well! Please add or refute to help me out.
My Dearest Beloved In the Omnipresence of God there can be no darkness. Darkness is belief but belief is not Truth. All ill forms are illusions and must be seen as such. It is a distorting seeing of a mind ladened w beliefs and it is the release of those distorting beliefs that results in true seeing the eternal and everpresent Perfection of Being here and now ---only God Is. There is only the I Am Life the God Life nothing else is true. The release of faulty beliefs can be done through forgiveness which can be explored more via ACIM or in Silence which can be explored more www.miracleself com or in prayers sincerely asking for the truth of any situation for true seeing or understanding and trust that the answer will be given in one form or another that you will know beyond amy doubt. I send you all the Love and Blessings. You are Divine and can only be Divine --Formless and Form---nothing else is true. Herein lies the Peace of God❤
Rupert ❤, bless me to wake up to BEING 🙏
Thank you Rupert, sometimes you are too conclusive. It's understandable though of course because of the type of culture your most familiar with teaching.
Ohhh.I like the way he pause, reflect and concentrate before talking. And what beautifull allegories he uses. Ilove this men.
Objects in the dream are also very very solid!
Yet you see them from a screen with eyes that really can't see the "real reality".
@Lucy Rane Lucid dreams are dangerous. There is possibility that you wouldnt be able to return to your physical body. There are many dangers there.
@Lucy Rane You may not be afraid of a tiger in a jungle. But, it doesnt matter, you are afraid or you are not afraid, tiger will kill you.
@@emendatus1 It's only dangerous if you believe you are a separate solid being in this life, so you have something to hold on to. There is nothing to hold on to, since waking life is a dream aswell. It's so blissfull to let yourself freely shift between states of conciousness, waking/dreaming/meditation..
Only if you believe you have something to protect, you feel fear.
Thank you Rupert!!! ❤🙏🏽
Broken car does not mean broken driver.
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There never is "a" driver. Can you locate this "mind"/"self"/"driver"? It is the same as with the
movie that is projected onto the screen. It is projected from a single source, i.e., the projection booth. None of the apparent characters on the screen are thinkers, doers, or perceivers. Each seeming entity on the screen is actually a vacant domicile. The cosmic drama is like the movie.
@@sandycarter5300 The driver ain't local...that's the point.
@@joajoajb _"The driver and the driven both are concepts , ..."_
That's in your estimation. All concepts (bar none) are merely thought-forms. All thought forms occur as events *_within Consciousness_* therefore Consciousness cannot be a concept, it is where all concepts happen.
Consciousness is the "non local driver" that i'm referencing here.
@@joajoajb _"Concepts are not just limited to the mind' way of thinking ,.."_
I never said that. I just said that ALL concepts must occur within Consciousness, you've said nothing to refute that. The Mind is not consciousness by the way, consciousness is the ground of mind.
_"the entire universe of space- time movement is itself another concept occuring within the knowledge "I AM CONSCIOUS", .."_
"I Am Conscious" is a statement of *living and present cognizance* not knowledge. Knowledge is merely collected data. The ""vase" that contains knowledge is cognizance, knowledge is inert and inanimate, cognizance *_uses knowledge as it sees fit._* Knowledge is therefore nothing more than memory, collected from the past. That which KNOWS that knowledge is cognizance or consciousness. Knowledge is inanimate data or information, cognizance is ALIVE and present and is the faculty of KNOWING. Knowing is always conflated with knowledge by most...yourself included apparently.
Consciousness is the Universal "driver" the universal KNOWER of all experiences. Which includes all memories (or knowledge) and concepts.
_" Rupert has a very limited conceptual view of the Absolute."_ ??
..and yours is much more comprehensive i imagine.
_"Rupert thinks he's positing towards life, he is not. He's positing towards illusory representations of life by Ignorance."_
Many folk come into these threads professing to be experts on the absolute. Forgive me if (from your verbal demonstrations and conflations so far) i don't particularly find your sagacity super convincing.
What is particularly revealing about having this woman undertake this role as the newly born infant is that once fully immersed in only the experience of perception/sensation, she has(without judgement or interpretation), she wouldn't know she even possessed a body or was a body. Hence the declaration stating that "we are not the body." But of course in the relative world, bodies abound and deserve treatment if they become ill or disabled.
It needs the illusion being a person with "my" thoughts, "my" feelings, "my" body in order to experience consciousness consciously, being aware of itself through the form, called human. So one leads to another, one depends on the other one, there is no truth, that is more true than another one, yet there is just one truth, out of which all what seems to be true is born and can be experienced.
Consciousness is all there is.
He lives in the aether
To experience our very being like a newborn again with no memories would be bliss..
"If you hold on to that past
Don't you lock yourself inside
Nothing has been done before
It’s the most virgin dress you could possibly wear..
Hold your memory for a moment, with a blind hand
Write some stories for tomorrow
From the bottle of amnesia
Find instructions, to salvation
To oblivion supreme
Don’t be tempted to look back
It has all happened before"
Yes, as in "Ignorance is bliss."
What a great question: “Why use me?” A perfect set-up question. I only wish Rupert had jumped on that question and chased it further down the rabbit hole of Non-Duality. E.g., There is no “me” to use, only infinite Consciousness pretending to be all the “me’s” in this room, while forgetting its own true nature. Infinite Consciousness did not select ‘you’ out of some cosmic storage room filled with individual, ready-to-wear “me’s”, but, instead, localized or filtered its own infinite Self into a unique and newly-imagined body and mind called, ‘Josephine’ (whatever the lady’s name is), through which you now see and talk to this ‘me’ (Rupert pointing to himself). And, this ‘me’ consists of the exact same infinite Self filtered through a different body/mind called ‘Rupert’ that is talking to ‘you’. In reality, there is only one infinite Person in this room - talking to Itself. (Yes, Rupert did respond to this great question, but only reluctantly as a passing comment.)
Brad Stephan you basically re-phrased his exact response with the reference to the Peter, John, and Henry story. And I wasn’t a passing comment, it was almost the last two minutes of the video.
@@cristovaljesusamado8455 Truly fascinating - and true! Not the solipsism of modern psychology, but Advaitic solipsism. I look forward to reading more of eka jiva vada (I am alone) - thanks.
@@cristovaljesusamado8455 it's not solipsism..there's so much difference between advaita philosophy and solipsism 🙏
Thanks, Rupert 🙏🙏❤️❤️
The finite mind is how the infinite realizes its actual potential?? The error in this statement he makes is breathtaking!
To begin with, there is no "finite" "mind". The infinite does not need the "finite", which doesn't exist. Infinite being is not understood through imagined limitation. The infinite knows itself without a medium. It does not need a "medium" of a nonexistent entity or thing in order to know itself.
True and the opposite also ... The infinite knows itself by being itself, but doesn’t know the finite ... if it would know the finite as itself, it would not be infinite.
To know the finite, the infinite withdraws into itself and dreamily it creates the circumstances to experience the finite, and in order to experience the finite it must overlook itself as infinite. To return the other way around, the process itself is the same. The finite has to realise its true nature and has to finds its way back to the infinity by realizing that it was never finite.
@@joajoajb oh, do you really know the Absolute? great! It seems to me (??) that you (??) are dualistic in each word you tell. and me also am, obviously ;) If you do get the words and don't get the analogy through which they may convey some intuition of the Reality ... sorry, you are still in a limited perspective. I think you should know the sanscrit word "Lila". What does it mean, according to your mind? Namaste. :)
@@joajoajb thanks for your explanation. Namaste ☺
@@joajoajb Excellent comment!
@@clckwrk0rng391 The infinite cannot "withdraw into" itself to "become" the finite. The seeming finite arises only from the one belief in objectivity which acts as a lens or filter through which consciousness then misperceives itself. It is this one belief in objectivity that seems to shatter the wholeness and perfect indivisibility of Mind, giving rise to countless bits of data, in belief only. This data appears to be solid and material. It appears to be a world.
So pure...
Body in consiousness like everything else.
The questioners sensations are happening specifically in the locus of his physical form which is the locus of his universe,
This method does not exactly heal the body or mental problems or moral evil. It only relativizes them. It makes you live for a certain moment without the knowledge of all those problems in your thoughts, but it cannot get rid of their effect even when they are being transcended. One can ignore that the person is with certain illness like a child but the illness nevertheless is harming the child. The same with moral evil. Regardless of relativizing things that at any given moment are opposite to peace and love, like being angry for no good reason or too worry or anxious, does not deal with the issue, it only covers it, the evil and anxiety is still undercover. The path of liberation is found in another not in me nor by me, it has to come and He has come and done it completely in all the realms of existence.
I find that to take in deeply what Rupert says, I have to relax to feel a certain degree of inner peace so that I can really listen. Then I have to give what he is saying my full attention. I also have to be aware of my habitual ingrained mind constructs so that I can put them aside to take in new information. Then I have to allow a spirit of openness and receptivity so that I can connect with Awareness to allow everything to really sink in so that it can have more impact then just another of the many youtube videos I watch. Hehehe ........ it’s working ..... I can feel the transformation seeping in over time ..... oh wait! My bad! There is no time ;) Love to everyone, and peace ☮️ 💜 from an old hippie 😂
You are funny. I love your comment!!
Brilliant
Thank you
A temporary appearance within the seamless whole. Like a bubble in a pot of boiling water. Like a leaf on a tree.
Perhaps even life and consciousness itself has no real substance. Only an appearance and then gone. Repeating endlessly in endless variation. The whole of reality in friction with itself until it finally finds equilibrium again. Our selves just one of the many manifestations of this yin yang interaction.
A pinching off of infinite is but a dream....💙
Similarly, there is no on/off Sun. There is only an obstruction of the Sun that creates an illusion of darkness.
Finally, be aware of the body's positioning after awakening from a dream & KNOW that circulation had been hindered while sleep. (Like, one slept while the head rested on the arm) 👂
...video tape it.
The fear of mortality is the shielding vale of immortality.
@Selfless Will Thanks, yeah im the author of it.
Is strange and contradictory to speak of "consciousness wanting to know other than..." how can something that is infinite and perfect knowing wants to know other than itself if consciousness itself must know by necessity even what is not? Does consciousness lack knowledge? At what point in infinity did he lacked knowledge or wanted to know something that did not know already? God knows every other level from the infinite opposite covering all degrees to Himself already. He knows infinitely what He is not, as part of His knowledge of who he is.
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It seems to me, he wants us to filter our experience and come to a conclusion similar to his......
I think the raw feeling of “solidity” of sorts is present sans interpretation. Dont they call this the sensation of earth element?
The Cureall is always available to all here and now.
Wow. Just found this. Wow
The concept of self is realized within space - time reality. (?)
In a manner of speaking, yes. The self, ego, the little me, the narrator 'lives' within both space and time, but only from the perspective of the self.
Love this video
Rupert Spira is one of the best spiritual teachers online IMO💜💕💜
A baby, any one, would be aware of the feeling of laying on a matress and laying on a concrete floor, is it not? If not, wouldn't more people sleep on concrete floors? I don't see the point he is trying to make regarding hardness as a concept for our experience.
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When the pain becomes unbearable and consciousness blacks out and disappears forever, the insignificant life that was means nothing and never meant anything. Alas, we are all fools and life? An accident. Peace is only possible with youth and health. The body is a bitxh! And death the only Truth.
There are no solid objects.
Wow...
It's impossible to verbalize the experience of a baby bc verbalizing is an expression of experience which the baby does not have....
do you get the point ? i am not , maybe pain is just truth , keep wandering , if you just keep healthy , other way is unpossible to get in mind , only thing we have is mind , and mind is always ill , more or less , sairam
interesting but I don't identify with the without-buoyancy approach to understanding the universe. "as above so below", not "there is no above or below" lol
the above is knowing the below is what we (ego) make of it , so both statements are wrong because they are different.
@@jpmantz1720 this void-life devil's advocate thing doesn't resonate with me
we are not new burn baby , pain is real .
so right all sensations are the same they just have different intensities? wtf lol
I agree
I don't get that part either lol.
Even animals "interpret" their experience. They have to distinguish between the sensation of an headache and the sensation of the claws of another animal on their skins. For survival. So it is not only humans, that do the "interpretation". Do animals get enlightenment?. Can anyone from a primitive tribe be in a non-dual state as suggested in these talks? No matter what you think, there is some reality in matter, maybe not the ultimate one. But if you see a lion, you'd better run away. I don't think that the aim of a spiritual path is to find ultimate reality, but to find meaning and possibly lasting peace in our own life, and this can be achieved by going deeper into the experience of the self.
I heard a story about a young boy who saw a bird for the first time, and it was considered a shame that he was told that it was a bird because the next time and from now on when he sees 🐦 he will not see the bird- but the word bird. Is that the same thing?
Very deep question! I dont think you will find an answer.
We never see objects we see our ideas of objects
The trade off is that in the absence of the physical bird, the word "bird" can evoke an inner image and experience of the bird...
As long as we consider ourselves separate, living in separate minds, we need concepts to communicate about experience. The concept is not the experience and the word or the image is a symbol for the concept, so twice removed from the experience.
The concept is limited, the experience is limitless. The word symbolises the limits, a piece cut out if the whole. The word can never be the same as the experience. If you keep the concept and the word and throw away the experience, you bypass life, lose the real thing, here and now
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But why does infinite and formless consciousnes want to see anything else apart from itself if there is truly nothing else apart from formless & infinite consciousness?? Can't just consciousness stay as infinite and formless which is its true nature rather than giving birth to entity called mind through which infinte consciousness experience various finite experiences??As rupert said through human beings consciousness realizes its infinite/finite potential.It means is there somebody else who is running the show?why does consciousness wants to know its power/potential??In other words Does consciousness create these so called finite objects i.e world(human beings and other finite objects) for its own recreation bcz it gets bored of being infinite & foamless or is there any other purpose ??Pls somebody reply.
I'm not even sure if Rupert Spiral could answer this question...I would love to see him reading it and answering but it won't happen.
@@Alix777. Thanks..let's hope one day he will read my query
Your experience is your substance 🙄 they are the same
cheese en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism
Mr Rupert, why do you reffer to consciousness as an entity? Isnt consciousness the medium for existence and its fabric? Every time you personify consciousness one of your students falls a step behind. The "Red queen" rule
Is consciousness even a thing? Or just a manifestation? An illusion? I'm starting to have doubts about it too. Is life just something that arises in a universe like this? Manifests among the "10,000 things" and then returns? As Loazi says?
@@daithiocinnsealach1982out of curiousity i took a liberty to sneak a peek of your channel and i must tell you man, it's a hell of a gem. Very interesting content. Thanks man :)
Spiritual teachers carry incredible responsibility on their shoulders because the people who flock around them usually seek some sort of mental rellief. Incredible responsibility. Sometimes i see questioneers completely brainwashed. The questions they would ask would be insane in every respect. And i feel sorry for those folks... and it seems that the longer they entertain spiritual genre the more messed up they get.
Enlightenment and understanding of consciousness shouldnt be that hard. With the propper wording, with sincere intentions, every spiritual teacher should know how to pull them back to ground and tell them straight up - man...you're trippin dude!
Maybe i'm the one who's tripping, for all i know, it just breaks my heart to see people loosing their marbles over a simple understanding of what's going on.
It sounds like Anita Moorjani is the one who asked the questions
1 Corinthians 15:3-4 (The Gospel)
Thanks. The mind finds it very hard to let go of injustices. When it see the privileged white classes oppressing billions it feels a blood thirsty murderous rage. Very hard to be with these feelings. Please advise
There is only ONE CONSCIOUSNESS living all things and all beings. The separation is in the mind. Injustices and privileged people are all part of the story. There is plenty of help available on RUclips and I recommend Cittaviveka Monastery, or Amaravati Monastery for Buddhist Meditation U.K. and talks by such teachers as Tony Parsons and Eckhart Tolle which are freely available on RUclips. Blessings & Peace to you.
The mind is neutral....we have eaten of the tree of Good and Evil which therefore colours our mind. All we need is a change of diet......whatsoever is good, lovely, peaceable, wholesome and edifying think on these things....
Please, please let me know what he says in this sentence: I am giving you now to the direct access to highest healing: What you are now is in perfect..... What? I am not able to understand ?????
"... the highest healing which is the knowledge that what you are now - not what you might become - is always in perfect health."
Rupert is pointing to the fact that ultimately the questioner is pure consciousness manifesting in the relative world trough her body mind complex Her body could be ill and the best she can do in this case is to visit the doctor But the healing to which Rupert is referring is not the healing of her material body but the realization that what she really is do not share the limitation of her physical body
Perfect health
What supreme illogic!
_"What supreme illogic!"_
give us supreme logic!
@@glynemartin Yes! The infinite does not know the finite... or need the finite...in order to experience Reality. There aren't "two" realities. There is just divine Reality being misperceived as it is seen through the distortion of the belief in objectivity. Objectivity is just a belief. It does not constitute an actual world. The world is imagined... and exists only in imagination, and this imagining is utterly impersonal "knowing".
@@sandycarter5300 So what new logic or wisdom has been revealed here then?
Did you listen properly?
Mind is a myth
speak for yourself..
@@derhafi I just did.
I hate how he thinks he's right and she's wrong
This is very interesting but you are quite dogmatic about all this. No one can know everything, please remember.. :) Also life is not an abstract thing, it's a living "thing".
Awkward.
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