You guys are amazing. complete overhaul in less than a day. Love the tractor too new for me to know anything about but I'd love to have had it for winter feeding and skidding logs back in the day. thanks for another good one. Still waiting for the girls to sing
Thankyou Mike. Harvest is right around the corner so we couldn't waste any time on this project. We are Wyoming on a song but emery time I get then in front of the camera they act like deer in headlight 😆 crazy considering I usually can't get them to stop talking and singing 😆 🤣 😂
boy you and Bob don't mess around! Glad you found another toy that you can rebuild into another good workhorse. The more and more complicated the new stuff gets, the more and more I like still working and keeping my old crap running. Have a good one Tim
Thankyou Evan, we sure don't mess around especially when harvest is right around the corner lol. I couldn't agree more about the fixing the old crap this one is as new as I really want to go lol I can still figure it out. 😅 thanks for watching Evan!!
Yes sir you are true that!!! As long as you act like you know what your doing, it will all come together 🤣😆. and a few Prayers 🙏🙏. Have a great weekend!!!
Man yeah!!! You two are amazing!! Bloody genius!!! The tasks y'all undertake!! Watched every min of it, loved it Tim!! Think you have a good one here, looking fwd to seeing it in the field!!! 😁😁😁👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thankyou Nelson!! To me this was a simple project lol we've done so many we barely even keep the bolts separate anymore 😆. And not having to basically engineer the thing like we did with big Mike and Franky really makes it seem like a short project 🤦♂️. Everything bolts back together..... I almost forgot what that was life for a while 😆 thankyou for always being here my friend and the kind words!!
Nice tractor Tim! Will be looking forward to seeing it working in the field. Is that John Deere with the lp engine that was in the background the next project?😅
@@derekkienzle2582 I'm going to call them and see if there's an off chance your loader is still there. I would love to make this my loader tractor. I didn't buy this one directly from heitmans I bought it from a gentleman that bought it from them.
Basically a 980 fiat with an Allis engine. The Fiats have a PTO disconnect like a Ford or Ferguson. In operation you disengage the PTO there and then release clutch bearing pressure when not using PTO. Or just let shaft spin. A lot of people couldn't get the hang of this and burned up throw out bearings. The Fiat made Olivers were this way and got a bad rap. Also early 50 HP Kubotas and others. Works ok just engage PTO when not using PTO. Counterintuitive I know.
😆 it is definitely counter intuitive. After having it all apart and seeing how it all works, it's easy to remember for me I guess. This one has the pto cut off on it as well, just like you explained with the fiats.. and its not adjusted correctly. The last owners must have adjusted it out and turned the tractor off to engage the pto.... would explain why the starter and flywheel were trashed 🤦♂️ so when I get time I get to split it again. I forgot to flip the ring gear as well so, it is what it is 🤷♂️. Thanks for watching pete!
Yes then of you have the update on the front you don't need to worry about your thrust bearing. Yes an extra lever next to the seat that is an update as well for turning the pro on and off the only time you disengage the factory pro lever is to tune the other lever on and off.
Ya I found that when I was reading how to adjust it in the book, I thought o great, 😆, but I just measured like I do with any other clutch and it feels great 🤷♂️. I figured I won't mess with it, if I lose a throw out bearing I guess I know why though huh lol
I like it allot but I've got to get air conditioning and a cab kit in it. It's hot and loud in the cab right now 😆 I could do with out the wine in third gear too but I blame Fiat for that not Allis lol
Your eye sight is off just like mine. After I read this earlier, I had to go check before I responded, because it made me think you were right 😆 but it definitely pulls through the radiator lol.
Idk if it took us 15 to 20 hours of working on it but that's from start to finish. If your asking goes on the tractor the tac reads 1950 but I doubt that even close.
You must really push them the 433 is an amazingly reliable engine. It's a 301 with 2 less cylinders and a balanced crank with a weight balancer. More reliable than the 6 cylinder if they are used correctly, just because we can weight it down and pull at 20 foot disc with it does not mean that we should 😆 now I bet that 301 would handle it awesome in that little chassis until the rear end gives up lol. But I can't lie I was contemplating hard on putting a301 in this one. Just decided it would have higher resale value this way of I decide to sell it.
You guys are amazing. complete overhaul in less than a day. Love the tractor too new for me to know anything about but I'd love to have had it for winter feeding and skidding logs back in the day. thanks for another good one. Still waiting for the girls to sing
Thankyou Mike. Harvest is right around the corner so we couldn't waste any time on this project. We are Wyoming on a song but emery time I get then in front of the camera they act like deer in headlight 😆 crazy considering I usually can't get them to stop talking and singing 😆 🤣 😂
Totally enjoyed watching! Thanks very much for sharing! From start to finish overhaul!👍🏻🇺🇸✌️👋🤩
Thankyou Scott for commenting and watching. God bless you for always being here!!
boy you and Bob don't mess around! Glad you found another toy that you can rebuild into another good workhorse. The more and more complicated the new stuff gets, the more and more I like still working and keeping my old crap running. Have a good one Tim
Thankyou Evan, we sure don't mess around especially when harvest is right around the corner lol. I couldn't agree more about the fixing the old crap this one is as new as I really want to go lol I can still figure it out. 😅 thanks for watching Evan!!
Yes sir you are true that!!! As long as you act like you know what your doing, it will all come together 🤣😆. and a few Prayers 🙏🙏. Have a great weekend!!!
😆 🤣 😂 I'm glad your on the same page at least lol. Thanks for watching and commenting. And the same goes to you and yours my friend.
Man yeah!!! You two are amazing!! Bloody genius!!! The tasks y'all undertake!! Watched every min of it, loved it Tim!! Think you have a good one here, looking fwd to seeing it in the field!!! 😁😁😁👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thankyou Nelson!! To me this was a simple project lol we've done so many we barely even keep the bolts separate anymore 😆. And not having to basically engineer the thing like we did with big Mike and Franky really makes it seem like a short project 🤦♂️. Everything bolts back together..... I almost forgot what that was life for a while 😆 thankyou for always being here my friend and the kind words!!
@@TimothyFluegel That's a true Craftsman my friend!! Yes sir always!! ,😁😁😁🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍
Great video! Good job!
Thankyou Clint!!
Good now if you could deliver it to Maine that would be great looks like a nice tractor bud
😆 🤣 😂 I'll load it up and be on the way shortly bud
Overhauls take a lot of work, but it's nice knowing how many "new" hours the engine has again.
It sure is. I like buying tractors like this, it's nice to get one that just runs but knowing the engine is good for many hours is up there.
Nice tractor Tim! Will be looking forward to seeing it working in the field. Is that John Deere with the lp engine that was in the background the next project?😅
The jd unfortunately is the next project Larry 😆 is for a cracked head should be pretty straight forward.
Love the video. What would you charge someone to do that overhaul? Say if they brought it to you.
1000 to 1500 in labor, you'd have around 2500 to 3000 into the overhaul, considering it's straight forward and nothing needs to be machined.
The rear cam bearing in my 301 was the same way. No hole in the block
Isn't that weird. Every other engine I've done has had the hole there 🤷♂️, it was the best looking bearing in the whole cam is the strangest thing.
Looks good. I really liked my 6080 when I had it, it's sitting at heitmans, it has a foot throttle.
This one came from heitmans acualy. But it doesn't have afoot throttle sadly.
@@TimothyFluegel go figure. Mine was cabless with fwa and allied loader on it. It ran well but transmission/rear end was junk.
@@derekkienzle2582 I'm going to call them and see if there's an off chance your loader is still there. I would love to make this my loader tractor. I didn't buy this one directly from heitmans I bought it from a gentleman that bought it from them.
@@TimothyFluegel I have no idea if it is or not but it was a 595 allied. Had fairly new front tires and rims on it also
@@derekkienzle2582 they don't have that one anymore but they have another one I might be looking at. Thanks for the lead either way lol
Basically a 980 fiat with an Allis engine. The Fiats have a PTO disconnect like a Ford or Ferguson. In operation you disengage the PTO there and then release clutch bearing pressure when not using PTO. Or just let shaft spin. A lot of people couldn't get the hang of this and burned up throw out bearings. The Fiat made Olivers were this way and got a bad rap. Also early 50 HP Kubotas and others. Works ok just engage PTO when not using PTO. Counterintuitive I know.
😆 it is definitely counter intuitive. After having it all apart and seeing how it all works, it's easy to remember for me I guess. This one has the pto cut off on it as well, just like you explained with the fiats.. and its not adjusted correctly. The last owners must have adjusted it out and turned the tractor off to engage the pto.... would explain why the starter and flywheel were trashed 🤦♂️ so when I get time I get to split it again. I forgot to flip the ring gear as well so, it is what it is 🤷♂️. Thanks for watching pete!
I guy nice job! Would you think a 4bt cummins could fit a 6070?
Absolutely! And it would be awesome 😆
@@TimothyFluegel and the transmission would be good for how much hp you think?
So if you engage the PTO constantly, except for connecting and disconnecting the PTO equipment shafts, all will be good.
Thres a disconnect lever to shift it in or out with the engine off, then you can leave the main lever engaged when you're not using the pto
Yes then of you have the update on the front you don't need to worry about your thrust bearing. Yes an extra lever next to the seat that is an update as well for turning the pro on and off the only time you disengage the factory pro lever is to tune the other lever on and off.
I just noticed the tractor has fiat wheels just like the Fiat 880 DT, It's 5 cylinder counter part and the Fiat 980 DT tractor 😂
It was built in a fiat factory with a fiat tranny rear end under it.
@@TimothyFluegel so the engine and wheels are fiat made, what about the axles and gearbox ? 😄
They make a special tool to adjust the clutch if it doesn't seem right. You'll need to borrow it from an AC dealer
Ya I found that when I was reading how to adjust it in the book, I thought o great, 😆, but I just measured like I do with any other clutch and it feels great 🤷♂️. I figured I won't mess with it, if I lose a throw out bearing I guess I know why though huh lol
What do you think of the 6080 I like the one I have
I like it allot but I've got to get air conditioning and a cab kit in it. It's hot and loud in the cab right now 😆 I could do with out the wine in third gear too but I blame Fiat for that not Allis lol
Is my eye sight off or does this tractor have a push cooling fan?
Your eye sight is off just like mine. After I read this earlier, I had to go check before I responded, because it made me think you were right 😆 but it definitely pulls through the radiator lol.
Called a crows foot remember my papaw and friends talking about it
It's the handiest tool in the box I think 😆
It's the handiest tool in the box I think 😆
How many hours?
Idk if it took us 15 to 20 hours of working on it but that's from start to finish. If your asking goes on the tractor the tac reads 1950 but I doubt that even close.
I ha have one in good shap
Would you like to trade Jim 🤔 😆
Minus the motor!!!
I have A 6080 with A 301 and much better working engineThe 4 cylinders always blow up
You must really push them the 433 is an amazingly reliable engine. It's a 301 with 2 less cylinders and a balanced crank with a weight balancer. More reliable than the 6 cylinder if they are used correctly, just because we can weight it down and pull at 20 foot disc with it does not mean that we should 😆 now I bet that 301 would handle it awesome in that little chassis until the rear end gives up lol. But I can't lie I was contemplating hard on putting a301 in this one. Just decided it would have higher resale value this way of I decide to sell it.
Usually right after the warranty expires.