Case 1370 Engine Knock Diagnosis
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Oh my. I’ve been there. I dropped a valve seat in my 1270 and ended up finding out the cam was partially wiped too. Currently working on it. I feel for ya and understand!
Grandpa had a farm was a case man to had a 600 .900.730.1030.1174 .2470 and a davedbrown 885 front end loader and 1210 davedbrown front wheel assist loader it brings back good memories to see the old iron thanks for sharing
Hi guys, as an old earthmover just swap the good bits onto other projects and tart this one up as an emergency spare. You can grind just one big end journal down, if it is out of round do the minimum grind for roundness, do not worry about the exact diameter but get the change in stroke figure. The rod can be welded to suit and re bored on a lathe with compensation for loss of stroke. New shells from the set can be filed for correct preload. Replacement rings and top groove cleaned up in the lathe. I owned older dry-hired excavators where people let them run low on oil. When operated on extreme slopes, oil pressure disappeared with resultant run big ends. Some of these (Yanmar) engines did hundreds more hours and may still be going today. If the engine recon shop will not do what you want, go somewhere else but get a quote.
This reminds me of when we farmed years ago. Running older equipment, you have to be a good mechanic. Thanks for the Videos. Good luck with the 1370.
New to your channel, just a old man with a love for junk. I logged timber most of my life, that said, spent way more time on my back in the mud fixing on or just keeping a jug handy to drink a problem or seven off of the mind. I quit drinking going on twenty seven years ago but threaten a relapse just about everytime the wind blows. I tried to keep logging but between all the regulations, shortage of markets for timber found... knew it was time to quit. I started working on some old equipment to sell, finding it hard to sell something for pennies on the dollars spent so just figured it was time to fix the neighbors junk. After all, if ya can fix most of your own stuff then get paid to try your best on someone elses pocket book. I was fifty seven when I caught a man who fell from his roof and if he hit the cement, knew he was dead so.... ya, besides never stopping to put commas on these long winded sentences.... tell the rest of the story. He was near eighty and me being a young bull, just reached out and caught him thinking not of what might happen to me. It broke my neck in a couple places bad enough to require fusion. I had yet tho to find the rest of the problem as I had been in a coma for about three months. My lumbar was crushed to a point that doctors told me to get ahold of next of kin. After seven failed surgeries, they told me they had did all they could from the back side and would need to go in from the front of me to repair it. I was on enough pain pills to tame a moose so said fix it! They told me Morgan, your in your late sixties and with all of the other repairs done to you from prior injuries, it would be suicide by surgeon and we just won't do it. I literally begged as hard as I could telling them I would donate any parts of me working for someone else if they would please just fix it. Their final answer was a resounding absolutely no. Now at seventy three and pushing another one soon, wish they would of never woke me up. I can not walk or even move around on my own, live on pain pills that are heavily regulated so they get you feeling better to just cut you off leaving you praying to die from all of the pain. See other people who abuse stuff makes it hard to find a doctor who will risk his licence to give you medication. Sucks to be me, kind of like a tractor that has too many good parts to just haul off for junk. I do not know your location yet but watching different auctions see great old machines get sold for scrap prices and the next auction they will hold sell junk for prices that would have a normal man holding a gun to his head to keep in the bidding. Absolute lunacy for the high priced stuff that has the part needed as they don't reproduce a lot of this stuff anymore. I have whined enough and short of any good I can do, gave a like and subscribe, I will share your videos as they come out.... am kind of curious as to what all makes up a new channel but I ain't going anywhere soon. Wishing you a better start off for the rest of this year... your still young and I just wish I was your age again knowing stuff I do know now
My family had an 870 for number of years. Put in 2 full overhauls in less than 10 years. Dad drop it like a rock after the last overhaul and purchased a JD 5020.
Dad had a 870, I learned to plow on it. Traded towards a 1896 when powershift started going
Sad it has so many problems. Love the old Case tractor. Had a small farm growing up. Had a small case. Put a lot of hrs on old girl. Good video.
Not being disrespectful or sarcastic Sir, when you started talking I looked around to see if I left the T.V. on with the JUSTIFIED D.V.D. playing. I swear you sound exactly like Timothy Olyphant.
Have a blessed day.
Great Video, interesting process to work out you really only have a parts tractor, thanks for sharing
I need a nose piece of a 70 series 2wd, it being the greatest tractor ever built, I need it for my wall. Lol.
Hot oil pressure if very low rod bearing probably.
Nice old Case. I love Case.
David Brown are excellent if you find one.
I can't tell if a Diesel is knocking, they all sound like they are knocking to me.
Sorry that happened. My uncle was driving one of his international 1456s to the dealership to sell it. The oil drain plug came loose and fell out. He didn't notice. There went that tractor.
Sorry to hear that. Those were cool tractors aswell. We had a 4166 IH in the family 30 years ago that also lost a drain plug while doing tillage.
Personally I hate doing a job twice. I agree with your decision, "except" since you're keeping it I'd go ahead and change the piston and crank while you've got it torn down that far. Even it you get another donor engine, unless you tear it apart, you don't know what you''re getting. So send it off to get it fixed, put it back together so you know what you've got. It may push your time table back a week but you'll recoup that back on the other side since it'll be ready when you're ready to get to it. Then move onto your other projects and rob what you need off this after you park it. Just my thinking on this keeper project. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
We have a 87 case 3594 with a 504 in it. It started missing and popping and cracking and it turned out it was a couple of the valve spring retainers that were broke. $10,000 later from the dealer and she runs like a top
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Could be a wrist pin as well
Wimer Fuel Injection, they have done some work for me
"Actively moist" lol
had a 1370 9000hrs one morning disking spun rod bearing found they were all worn and worn paper thin piston compression rings some were busted god knows how long i could crumple them like pretzels engine/injector pump/turbo/transmission/flywheel clutch/pto and hydraulic pump repairs about $35k way more than the $8k we paid for it when you have a mortgage have to keep up on repairs or be in violation of loan agreement that 1 tractor (out of 7) drove out dairy out of business
No way that took $35k unless you took it to a dealer. I am currently rebuilding the engine on my case 1270 and so far the cost has been around $1100
I think I would use that as a parts machine
Mary had a little lamb, his wool was black as soot, everywhere Mary went his sooty foot he put.
Anyone who uses ether will have engine work to do in their future.
Yes. We knew that one had issues so that's why we used it. In small amounts it's usually not an issue on the big case engines.
That's why in the 60s, 70s companies mounted ether start injection systems on tractors.
Either not gonna blow up your engine unless your stupid and empty whole bottle.... when a tractors is hard to start its usally low compression and then it escalates from there
@@bl688 ya low compression cause the rings are broke from using ether.
Was the tractor plugged in ( ie block heater)either ????common guys .
Nope. They didn't have them when new and it wasn't that cold the day we started it.
Did you say you had an 1175. I have one and have never seen another.
Yeah we actually have 2. Where are you located? There's lots in the Midwest and here in the eastern US.
I have an 1170
Is crank of 930 the same
No, The 930 has a smaller journal. Good thinking though.
Good day from Ontario. Boy too bad with 1370. How many hrs. was on motor?
Thanks
Not exactly sure. I don't remember if the tachometer on it worked but based on tractor wear I'd guess over 10,000.
@@farmingwithjunk1848 Good day Friday I was coming from bank & saw repairman at Mennonite farm to service generator engine,
It is a 6 cyl gm motor. While in there I saw 4 cyl in sitting flashing display saying not in auto & then I saw hours, "42,000 " I phone owner last nite,
it is propane but that is original . Anyways good luck. Thanks
I farm with junk !my wife tells me the same thing. Lol
The seventy series Case were poorly designed and engineered in my opinion, and I am a Case man!
Curious to hear your reasoning for that opinion.
@@farmingwithjunk1848 The power shifts were very prone to needing to be rebuilt, not until the 90 series were they improved and then the 94 series was a greater improvement. Also, design features like you pointed out such as the front axle needing to be dropped in order to drop the pan, also the hood design was very difficult to remove. The front steering cylinders were not thought out too good by the engineers either. It was a decent engine though and a well built cab but just not very innovative thinking by the engineering dept. as a whole. John Deere and I.H. were clearly better with their ideas. I am a fan of the old hundred and 30 series tractors, they were true workhorses. Hope you can find a replacement engine someday, but if that power shift goes out you will be stuck for another 6 thousand.
@@royimplement2409 yeah I'll have to agree with you on those. The powershifts like most other transmissions like in of the era were expensive to rebuild. The steering cylinders and front axle on the bigger frame tractors wasn't great. The hood is hard to take off. The smaller frame tractors like a 770 through 1170 are easier to remove the oil pan and such.
I don't think what you say is true. I see a lot of '70' series Case tractors working to beat hell in the last couple of years. These tractors are 40 plus years old and a lot of '70' series owners are pleased with their tractors. I keep thinking that the main reason for that is they carefully read the operator's manual and took extra care when operating their 70s Cases. No complaints from them about transmission problems.
Cousin had 970 from new in 1973 in NZ...he dismissed my comment about strange powershift issue and noise...200 hours later ended up costing more than purchase price to rebuild att 2100 hours!