How to Come to Terms with a Protracted Withdrawal Injury | ft. Chris Paige

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  • @pf100andahalf
    @pf100andahalf Месяц назад +94

    It's very frightening to not know if you'll ever be okay again, if you'll ever truly live again. The constant feeling that your life is over and things will never get better is soul crushing.

    • @tmichelle8794
      @tmichelle8794 Месяц назад +18

      I’m going through that now, I just took a shower and I’m so swollen and in so much pain.

    • @ritaharmon
      @ritaharmon Месяц назад +4

      @@tmichelle8794what are you detoxing from?

    • @tmichelle8794
      @tmichelle8794 Месяц назад +12

      @@ritaharmon not a total detox but been taking lower dose pain med by 50 % and Lowering dose on a benzo that I was prescribed for panic attacks when I was 19.
      I have a autoimmune disease that’s really wreaking havoc on my joints since November too

    • @UTAH100
      @UTAH100 Месяц назад

      @@tmichelle8794 Why? I care.

    • @UTAH100
      @UTAH100 Месяц назад +1

      @@tmichelle8794 Oh. Have you tried KETO? It's like an elimination diet. Works well for many.

  • @Jannietime1
    @Jannietime1 Месяц назад +41

    Thank God my grown son believed me. His love saved my life. I absolutely would not have made it without him.

  • @user-sr4sk7vd9o
    @user-sr4sk7vd9o Месяц назад +32

    Chris, you put it very well "we have to grieve our lives". Perfect.

  • @pikkuoo
    @pikkuoo Месяц назад +58

    A key to my survival was, that I kept away from forums and I kept away from doctors. My family believed me and that was enough

    • @jeanf8998
      @jeanf8998 Месяц назад +18

      You were fortunate. My family believes that my withdrawal is really a sign I need MORE medication and so would my doctors. I really fear they will try to admit me. They would say I am delusional. They won’t watch doctors who disagree with them on video. I am staying quiet and must behave myself 😮

    • @MsCarmel55
      @MsCarmel55 Месяц назад +8

      ​@jeanf8998 sorry to hear this but you are not alone. There are groups for support everyone can join. Unless you've been through it people don't have a clue.

    • @newjerseydevil6115
      @newjerseydevil6115 Месяц назад +10

      None of this would've happened to me if it wasn't for my narcissistic family. Having a support system is important. Some of us have to leave our family to heal sadly.

    • @lonnievisch6009
      @lonnievisch6009 Месяц назад +2

      @@jeanf8998 fake it till you make it. Very sorry for you. Keep quiet en talk to us here. Hold on❤️

    • @cmla1879
      @cmla1879 Месяц назад +1

      Hello @pikkuoo, how long did your recovery take? I’m on day 33 off and my symptoms are still severe after 3 months of clobazam 10 mg. I’m scared due to all the horrible stories I’ve heard 😔

  • @brendamalone3880
    @brendamalone3880 Месяц назад +28

    Dear Josef and Cris I have been watching your videos for two years now. I have to say this one is the greatest talk about protracted withdrawal I’ve ever listened to. I give you both a standing ovation!! So very helpful. It was perfectly done I felt so much love and support coming from you both. Wholeheartedly I thank you! Two years into my journey, this has given me so much hope!! ❤️❤️❤️

    • @incognito595
      @incognito595 Месяц назад +3

      Yes. Cause they have known of this HORROR FOR MORE THAN 60 YEARS!

  • @daveknight7957
    @daveknight7957 Месяц назад +29

    As a caregiver for an iatrogenic victim and subjects of the award-winning documentary Death by Medicine, I am looking forward to our interview on June 8. I believe my wife is permanently brain damaged from her involuntary civil commitment. I want to believe there is hope. After almost 15 years off all medications, it appears she will never function normally again. Where does hope end and and reality begin? Look forward to our discussion.

    • @annedodgson8677
      @annedodgson8677 Месяц назад +1

      We all know iatrogenic … right … insert a definition

    • @Rene-uz3eb
      @Rene-uz3eb Месяц назад

      Non doctors shouldn't use 'iatrogenic'. Doctors use it like idiopathic, to obfuscate they are to blame and don't know sht

    • @rebeccapenders5050
      @rebeccapenders5050 Месяц назад

      Use Google 🙄​@@annedodgson8677

    • @theresevanbarneveld6026
      @theresevanbarneveld6026 Месяц назад

      ​@@annedodgson8677 An iatrogenic disease is a clinical condition that results from the direct (or indirect) actions of physicians, surgeons, or other caregivers

    • @aquamaree7022
      @aquamaree7022 26 дней назад +1

      I'm 10 years off and know of other's who are your wife's time off and yes, it's hard to not lose hope but I don't want to be another statistic. However, I think it's important to keep things in perspective and to not put all health ailments in the withdrawal basket, because life still happens even when we're in protracted withdrawal.

  • @kassi4837
    @kassi4837 Месяц назад +19

    "An adaptive fear of medical treatments, and adaptive fear of doctors, and adaptive fear of medicines, and actively refuse things.." yup.

  • @robabc
    @robabc Месяц назад +6

    Thank you so much for this interview...for a brief moment i didnt feel alone in this anymore while i've watched it

  • @apocalypta3620
    @apocalypta3620 Месяц назад +8

    “Medical science is making such remarkable progress that soon none of us will be well.” - Aldous Huxley

  • @Dji2stellar-C
    @Dji2stellar-C Месяц назад +18

    That’s a absolute travesty to go through an ordeal like that over that time,Your a true survivor buddy.

    • @michelebergman4336
      @michelebergman4336 Месяц назад +4

      There 100,000s of us with EXACT SAME STORY!!!! Then there’s 100,000s who DIDNT MAKE IT!!!! They committed SUICIDE ??? 💀💀💀💀

  • @thomashelman3118
    @thomashelman3118 Месяц назад +11

    I have been off my Xanax for 4 months. My Doctor never apologized for prescribing me 1-2 mg after my Wife died. Never attempted to get me off. After going off 7 medications my last was Xanax. Now no prescriptions and Doctor not happy for me. He is retiring soon so I don’t bring it up, being on Keto or Carnivore had a great deal with my success. I had no problems coming off in 2 1/2 months. Insomnia only side effect.

  • @jeffreywegener8841
    @jeffreywegener8841 Месяц назад +10

    Sorry for yet another comment but nothing has resonated like Chris’s story to me . I can’t thank you enough.

  • @susanbell5835
    @susanbell5835 Месяц назад +6

    I've heard Chris talk in different interviews and always hang on to every word he says. So insightful and articulate and thoughtful! Thanks for having him on this channel. Regarding akathisia, I feel its definition needs more development. Most definitions focus on the external movements like pacing. In reality, many people experiencing akathisia hell look fairly normal and don't pace a lot, but have horrific internal agitation. People assume they don't have akathisia since they're not pacing or showing significant external motor movements. Akathisia needs to be defined in a way that is more encompassing of both the external and internal experience.

  • @PeterYost
    @PeterYost Месяц назад +14

    Hey Chris. Same story here. Glad to hear you are much better. Im struggling daily but also on the mend. Hope to be where you are soon.

    • @UTAH100
      @UTAH100 Месяц назад +1

      You look fine. What is your main issue- if you care to share. I care.

  • @nickgrogan8313
    @nickgrogan8313 Месяц назад +19

    I've been tapering from Xanax for almost 10 months. My CNS is so messed up. I'm still functioning somehow. Still working and taking care of the family. However i struggle 24/7. In pain constantly, breathing issues constantly, dizziness and cognitive issues. I pray that one day it will be over.

    • @mfdoom9437
      @mfdoom9437 Месяц назад +2

      It will be my friend.

    • @nickgrogan8313
      @nickgrogan8313 Месяц назад +3

      @@mfdoom9437 i hope so. the hardest to overcome is the breathing and weird feelings and pain in my chest.

    • @stacyyoust
      @stacyyoust Месяц назад

      gets better. Permanent damage, yeah, I think it's a thing... BenzoBuddies online forum kept me going.

    • @mfdoom9437
      @mfdoom9437 Месяц назад

      @@nickgrogan8313 I’m assuming you’ve seen a cardiologist, if not then obviously go get it checked out. You’re doing so well man, trust me when you get your first wave it’ll be beautiful. Taper for as long as you can, and stay safe.

    • @michaelk1589
      @michaelk1589 Месяц назад

      @@nickgrogan8313 What do you mean by breathing issues? Like feeling you are drowning underwater and can't get air and suffocating? Or something else?

  • @Q1776Q
    @Q1776Q Месяц назад +13

    Imagine a severe burn survivor or a cancer survivor having to tell people they were sorry for being sick... COMPLETE BULLSHIT.

  • @Mejust869
    @Mejust869 Месяц назад +4

    For me it’s my SSRI. Everything you guys are describing health wise and an ungodly long taper.

  • @Mnichols374
    @Mnichols374 Месяц назад +25

    Hardest freaking thing that i have ever hands down had to do 6 1/2 months off everything. Straight torture 24/7.

    • @UTAH100
      @UTAH100 Месяц назад +4

      But you made it. You are strong.

    • @FinHammer
      @FinHammer Месяц назад +8

      I lost 4 people that were pretty close to me while getting off of Clonazepam. Worst f*cking rollercoaster I've ever taken mentally and physically. 10months off and feeling a lot better. Healing is not linear so everything is changing but I'll make it, I have to. I hope you heal more and more every single day. Take care ❤

    • @susanmorgan4151
      @susanmorgan4151 Месяц назад +5

      Yes it IS torture , BUT it truly does get better. My recovery has been a process. It changes , it's not linear. It does get better.

    • @marshadamjanovich6508
      @marshadamjanovich6508 Месяц назад +4

      😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

    • @user-sr4sk7vd9o
      @user-sr4sk7vd9o Месяц назад +3

      I know and congratulations. Hang in there. It gives others hope. I am just looking for a doctor, but I don't trust the medical complex but maybe for broken bones. Flesh peddling.

  • @andreaurbinajohnson7888
    @andreaurbinajohnson7888 Месяц назад +7

    This has best video from this channel! l have been in withdrawal for just 31/2 years , and this video has given me hope

  • @sharbee8033
    @sharbee8033 Месяц назад +12

    Yes the anxiety is frightening but also the rage swings and the intrusive harmful thoughts that it creates your anger isn't your anger this is something out of this world. Everything and anything can set me of and not trusting my own mind. Bouts of hallucinations, hearing a evil voice that isn't human and this evil thing puts very dangerous thoughts in your head, paranoia, delusional thinking, feeling disoriented, confused, agitation, irritable. 9 months and I am still in antidepressant withdrawal I am having some windows where things settle but they aren't away. I can't sense within me how delicate fragile my CNS is, the slight movement at times causes such violent thoughts. Unable to do exercise as it makes me so irritable and agitated. My mind is playing mind games, what a ride this is. I pray for all of us for healing and trying to have some for of life.

    • @michelebergman4336
      @michelebergman4336 Месяц назад

      Are u tapering or completely off? What Benzo are u on? How much! I’d be Carefull since ur having scary thoughts & voices?

    • @sharbee8033
      @sharbee8033 Месяц назад

      ​I am 9 months free from an antidepressant i am no longer on a antidepressant. Unfortunately I am still continuing to suffer from withdrawals. I am trying to be careful with what I am experiencing nothing much I can do. I am trying to ride it out the best that i can its not easy.​@@michelebergman4336

    • @Stubbornclarity
      @Stubbornclarity Месяц назад +4

      Sending healing wishes for you

    • @stevie9y9y
      @stevie9y9y 27 дней назад +1

      I have the same!!!! It's horrendous

    • @1MNUTZ
      @1MNUTZ 23 дня назад

      The evil forces behind the drugs are evil spirits of the drug you have to rebuke them in Jesus name because they are evil and want to manipulate you into traps.

  • @KimberlyADarling
    @KimberlyADarling Месяц назад +8

    After four decades of psychiatric meds-every antidepressant except MAOIs or benzodiazepines-I stopped al 4.5 months ago. Hell. Rage. Brain on fire. Screeching tinnitus. I’m just in bed now. Great bloodwork though. “Nothing” is wrong with me.
    Maybe 350 cholesterol levels.
    I took shower and washed my hair. Gotten dressed. EVEN put my shoes on. Little bacon eggs and yet felt so weak, just limped back to bed.
    Waiting for the rapture.
    Because I obviously cannot figure this out. Disabled vet with HUD-thank God, 64, 120, I’ve cried all my life, but my tears are dried up. Spent $1,500 over past three months in every possible supplement. Already no sugar no flour. I’m not sick as you.
    But I’m unable to live.
    It wasn’t supposed to end this way. I relinquished my son at 21 because I didn’t want to “put my grief/depression” on another person. Now I can add giving him a “1” at birth, when I believed I saving him.
    But, only briefly on Benz is. And ambien. Left the house one night because Daddy and oldest son were yelling at each other. Never heard of cutting, yet I was determined to drive to Walmart for an exact knife, just to cut, just a little. Apparently I ran a red light in the ambien hypnotic state. Three cop cars folllowed me on my “slow speed chase” to the store.
    Spike strips and a net over my minivan-🤦‍♀️-later, I was face down, hands behind my back arrested, on the way to ER for blood withdrawal, and urinalysis. Cop asked me, if I wanted to die, why didn’t I drive into a bridge?
    Asked if I wanted to go to jail-for evading-nothing else in my symptom except clonapen and ambien-or Sage View. “What’s that?” I chose psychiatric hospital. Just prior, Daddy had taken sons from three years of Christian school, where I worked part time to pay for one tuition, to three years of community homeschooling, to public school. In a Sunday nite he told me there was nothing I could do about it. And just before that, the explosive resurfacing memory of military MST. From the hospital, I was preyed upon-way too strong a description-by a fellow psych patient, who I slept with. Yes before I promised our sons they’d never be children of divorce. 🤦‍♀️ But fellow broken person was WAY more broken than I was. I told Dad right away. He got out all our camping gear and put it in the caravan. and I never slept in the home we built, or where my sons-who were my life-lived, then 15 and 18, again.
    It was summer, so yay for that.
    Every time my future spouse sensed I wanted to get out or away, some tragedy popped up in his world, and I figured out too late, he’d created them all. I married him. Still married, tho separated since 2014. But we stayed friends, and he’s my closest friend. His story is so much more tragic than mine. Oldest of 11 children of Jehovah’s Witness Elder. All 11 rape-d and worse. Despite lying to impress everyone, he’s the kindest, hardest working and funniest person I’ve ever known.
    My sons are grown-awesome people. Love their Mom.
    I don’t understand why I cat get well. TY for this interview.
    I also have immense gratitude, for everything you mentioned, except the audience. And verbalize it daily. Often.

  • @sean13
    @sean13 Месяц назад +9

    You really find out who TRULY is there for you no matter what. Unfortunately, it’s usually about 5% of what you believe it to be. It’s a very lonely experience, you have to let go of so very much. The life you had is gone forever but you can build a better life if you’re disciplined and strong. People need to STOP thinking that doctors know what they’re talking about when they’ve not experienced it themselves. If someone really loves you, they BELIEVE you … it’s that simple.

    • @afol4016
      @afol4016 15 дней назад

      They have had 60+ years to "get it!" No excuses or explanation is acceptable. THEY KNEW. BUT CASH WAS BETTER THAN WORRYING ABOUT DESTROYING PATIENTS' LIVES, FUTURES, OR WELL BEING!

    • @afol4016
      @afol4016 15 дней назад

      "....AND WELL BEING "

    • @vegangrepresent4140
      @vegangrepresent4140 14 дней назад

      I thought that today, many left, I still can't believe it, no compassion no heart no love l😢

  • @michelebergman4336
    @michelebergman4336 Месяц назад +7

    SAME STORY WITH ME!!! My family tried to comit me to a Mental Hospital!!! I was there for a weekend & got out & my family abandoned me & I lived alone in bed 10 years trying to taper & recover from Klonopin!

  • @UTAH100
    @UTAH100 Месяц назад +15

    30:20 Yes. Similar to the book MANS SEARCH FOR MEANING. During the holocaust young, strong men died. The older, weaker men survived. WHY? They had families and something to live for. That is what the book is about. We all need meaning, hope- something to look forward to.

  • @Martinez1983
    @Martinez1983 Месяц назад +5

    You guys made me cry. Thank you ❤ “maintain the hope”

  • @user-sr4sk7vd9o
    @user-sr4sk7vd9o Месяц назад +10

    Dr.Josef
    Are you planning to practice in Ohio any time soon. I will use your video's to share with doctors. If they aren't open to you, I will not waste one minute more with them!!!

  • @user-ec9hb3bo7m
    @user-ec9hb3bo7m 29 дней назад +2

    I know it's completely obscured during WD, but you never lost your soul or essence Chris.

  • @user-du2rs4wk7l
    @user-du2rs4wk7l Месяц назад +3

    Chris is a truly inspiring man

  • @denisesmith9724
    @denisesmith9724 Месяц назад +2

    I feel exactly how you're telling people you feel

  • @newjerseydevil6115
    @newjerseydevil6115 Месяц назад +5

    That's my problem. The underlying problems. A lot of stress from unhealthy situations & relationships.

  • @newjerseydevil6115
    @newjerseydevil6115 Месяц назад +7

    My mother purposely put me in protracted withdrawals. I know because she's interfered with my medical care/ medications several times. She has Munchsien By Proxy ( & Covert Malignant Narcissism). Still, I actually feel sorry for her. I can recover.

    • @lonnievisch6009
      @lonnievisch6009 Месяц назад +1

      Münchhausen-by-proxysyndroom?? Go to the police..

  • @noobslayer10101
    @noobslayer10101 Месяц назад +13

    There's the fent epidemic but meanwhile there's a silent benzo epidemic. It is sad because they can really provide relief but it's such a double edged sword

    • @ajax700
      @ajax700 Месяц назад +5

      And SSRIs, finasteride and acutane epidemics too.
      Best wishes.

  • @Acetyl53
    @Acetyl53 Месяц назад +9

    I've never been able to accept "living well is the best revenge". It's true, the best way to destroy is by building. But still, something isn't quite right. I think it's an age thing. Losing your late teens and 20's is something you just can't actually become apart from or "get over", the deficit is essentially permanent. Omnipresent and inescapable, it never goes away. And probably by the time you do see otherwise, it's still too late anyway. The human concept is maliciously designed, it's made for this.

  • @TruthTeller-ez7ev
    @TruthTeller-ez7ev Месяц назад +19

    Please do an informative video on how to file a report on doctors and therapists who have acted unethically.

    • @UTAH100
      @UTAH100 Месяц назад +9

      It will go nowhere. You file with the same who swear to protect them. They are all on the payroll.

    • @afol4016
      @afol4016 15 дней назад

      DEA.. CT PERMANENTLY disfigured Me X2.

  • @NJmommykyldyl
    @NJmommykyldyl Месяц назад +7

    The absolute chronic fear of tapering this poison might actually be worse than any actual symptoms that it causes.

  • @1MNUTZ
    @1MNUTZ 23 дня назад +1

    Chris is highly intelligent and this is a great interview.

  • @jeffreywegener8841
    @jeffreywegener8841 Месяц назад +6

    This is so positive & but so terrible what Chris endured . The rage “ I have to put it aside & use it for sensible motivation. Yes I was so stupid- they were stupid - they are still stupid - ( like the Clowns who “ treated “ Chris ) & now cancelled patients & forcing cold turkey. But other motivation- meditation, talking, playing & practise music . Thanks to both of you . ❤

  • @lonnievisch6009
    @lonnievisch6009 Месяц назад +6

    Very very helpful. We will heal!❤ ( woman Europe 46 month out after AD slowly healing lots of windows and waves) thank you both🫶

  • @shan4145
    @shan4145 Месяц назад +6

    This was fire 🔥! Thank you to you both saving lives🦋💎

  • @akalucinda8821
    @akalucinda8821 Месяц назад +3

    I'm glad to see Chris doing well

  • @TrueLunacy
    @TrueLunacy Месяц назад +4

    I'm facing charges against these doctors that tortured me.

  • @ComeAlivewithMK
    @ComeAlivewithMK Месяц назад +3

    This is an incredible story here and thank you both for such an IMPORTANT interview

  • @theresevanbarneveld6026
    @theresevanbarneveld6026 Месяц назад +3

    I am so grateful for this channel ❤

  • @oliversmith7820
    @oliversmith7820 Месяц назад +2

    Great interview, thanks guys.

  • @kathbates9878
    @kathbates9878 Месяц назад +2

    Yes, Getting from pain to gratitude is the journey. You have so much of your journey like mine. Mine went on much longer and had different sidetracks. Congrats on helping.

  • @tash98101
    @tash98101 Месяц назад +2

    Excellent interview! Thank you so very much.

  • @andreascott9577
    @andreascott9577 Месяц назад +2

    This is so good. Thank you.

  • @user-bp8eh8hj7b
    @user-bp8eh8hj7b Месяц назад +2

    Thankyou so much for this . Such a great talk and one of the best episodes so far

  • @jamesmcdow945
    @jamesmcdow945 Месяц назад +2

    Thank you.

  • @blackflyingfox3365
    @blackflyingfox3365 Месяц назад +13

    I turned to alcohol to try and cope with what prescribed medication did to me. I've been in and out of detox. I'm now an alcoholic.

    • @frenchyblackhawk1872
      @frenchyblackhawk1872 Месяц назад +5

      I’m a veteran and I was prescribed Klonopin 6 mg for the last 28 years 10 weeks ago. I was forced to go from 5 to 6 mg to one. I thought I was losing my mind until I did some research and found out what benzo withdrawal is really like. this led me to cut out a lot of things in my life which included alcohol, caffeine, stress smoking basically anything that could interfere with a natural brain healing cycle and I could definitely say that alcohol was definitely bad for me. Hope you get better.

    • @vanessah4964
      @vanessah4964 Месяц назад +1

      Try ibogaine to heal. It’s incredibly helpful for any addiction

    • @newjerseydevil6115
      @newjerseydevil6115 Месяц назад

      ​@@vanessah4964I heard good things about Ibogaine but isn't it a cure for opiate withdrawals? I never heard of it treating benzo dependency too.

    • @Stubbornclarity
      @Stubbornclarity Месяц назад +2

      Same. Have a movement disorder from psychotropic drugs.

    • @hallieadams4225
      @hallieadams4225 Месяц назад +1

      Alcohol seems to ne what most people do.

  • @derekpmoore
    @derekpmoore Месяц назад +6

    People who are struggling with their own behavior and that take a PRN benzo script once a month or less tend to have a hard time realizing their problems could come from a protracted withdrawal brain injury and from interdose withdrawal.

  • @Stubbornclarity
    @Stubbornclarity Месяц назад +8

    I have akasthesia. Its hell. I'm so sore from walking and panic as well... Help me someone who understands.

    • @eleanahanelly6462
      @eleanahanelly6462 25 дней назад +1

      It will be okay this will get better, mine was Soso bad for a year and I just left a 4 month window into a wave but it gets better so please hold on, it's just time.
      I know how miserable it is, I'm sorry you have to experience this, just try not to panic and make any major changes to your meds, okay?

  • @carolinecroft7029
    @carolinecroft7029 Месяц назад +2

    Excellent. Have hope❤

  • @brandonmaddox8870
    @brandonmaddox8870 Месяц назад +2

    AMAZING INFORMATION! 🙏🏻

  • @ginaatx
    @ginaatx Месяц назад +3

    Nailed it Chris!!!!!!!!

  • @UTAH100
    @UTAH100 Месяц назад +10

    You have MORE credibility having suffered- not less. You have to believe that though.

  • @Dr-X
    @Dr-X Месяц назад +4

    Well maybe one of you could explain the severe nerve pain I have ? Years of this many neurologists many specialists all coming off from meds . I don't think everyone fully recovers.

  • @mja76
    @mja76 14 часов назад

    Spot on. Thank you!

  • @jeanf8998
    @jeanf8998 Месяц назад +5

    One of your best videos.❤

  • @HoneyGemHappy
    @HoneyGemHappy Месяц назад +3

    Thank you All so much 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @user-mi4xe2iz3l
    @user-mi4xe2iz3l Месяц назад +3

    great work bro..

  • @mfdoom9437
    @mfdoom9437 Месяц назад +3

    Amazing video 👍 currently in acute

  • @incognito595
    @incognito595 Месяц назад +6

    Yes, Collapse is a good word, or BRAIN DAMAGE.

  • @user-lm7hl8zr8q
    @user-lm7hl8zr8q Месяц назад +2

    God work Chris 💜

  • @flatderp
    @flatderp 18 дней назад +1

    I felt this way with the way the doctors treated me. They didn’t treat me 😮

  • @germainedenon311
    @germainedenon311 Месяц назад +11

    Chris is such a inspiring and empowering coach. Unlike a particular female one , M B, who said ppl who cant recover, have underlying issues. This is so divisive, dicriminatory and gaslighting.

    • @McStorch0
      @McStorch0 Месяц назад +1

      The MB who just posted her farewell to coaching for a while? I never heard her say that.

    • @user-sf3qr6jt9j
      @user-sf3qr6jt9j Месяц назад

      Who is MB?

    • @eleecesanders7342
      @eleecesanders7342 Месяц назад

      This is untrue

    • @kevk741
      @kevk741 Месяц назад

      Many of the people hurt for decades have underlying autoimmune encephalopathy or other issues. That part is true. I believe that I was a PANS/PANDAS case and that pushed me towards medications and eventual medication injury. Even chronic dry mouth after coming off medications is a sign of autoimmune damage/issues. Find J.A. Carter Winward’s posts in Mad In America to understand what Michelle is saying.

    • @germainedenon311
      @germainedenon311 Месяц назад

      @@kevk741 nope spinal tap is all clear

  • @claireh.7605
    @claireh.7605 Месяц назад +3

    Fear state, irritability, anger, catastrophizinf after cold turkey stopping Lexapro three years after. Getting crazy panic over things outside of my control. And I can’t tell if it’s withdrawal, me or appropriate reaction. You go into fight attack mode and think being mean and nasty to people is worth it. Then your relationships are ruined.

  • @scotscub76
    @scotscub76 26 дней назад +1

    I would love to talk to you about my rapid seroxat withdrawal and reinstatement in 2008. I still have to manage symptoms from it. I know youre busy and have heard it a thousand times. I use a scooter and electric bike. My stamina and health are ruined. These videos are incredibly validating and helpful. Ive spoken to Peter Gordon. Also damaged by Seroxat. Meditation helps twice a day but i have not healed. Grieving but coping.

  • @newjerseydevil6115
    @newjerseydevil6115 Месяц назад +3

    Oddly, I got lucky. It was easier for me the 2nd time. I think it's because I knew what to expect. Plus, I started weaning myself after the 1st time.

  • @sean13
    @sean13 Месяц назад +2

    DOCTOR, I hope you’re using hyperbaric for your daughter’s TBI. I pray she heals completely and quickly

  • @Acetyl53
    @Acetyl53 Месяц назад +2

    Kindling has also been observed with magnetic field or ELF exposure. See eg the work of Suzanne Bawin and WR Adey.

  • @McStorch0
    @McStorch0 Месяц назад +4

    Are you off all meds for 10 years and still only 80-90% healed. That’s really scary.

  • @VDiaz-hl3xf
    @VDiaz-hl3xf Месяц назад +4

    Worst ordeal to witness in a teen autistic son that already is dismissed. And seriously sensitive.

  • @7inchdestroyer959
    @7inchdestroyer959 Месяц назад +4

    Hi Chris. Which meds are you still on as I recall you still use some. Great interview.

    • @lonnievisch6009
      @lonnievisch6009 Месяц назад +1

      Remeron( antidepressant also known as Mirtazapine)and Seroquel. Anti psychotic

    • @BirdieHaze2207
      @BirdieHaze2207 Месяц назад

      Yes, the other meds not mentioned this time.

  • @Alex101FoSho1
    @Alex101FoSho1 Месяц назад +4

    I did not know about the word benzo or the intricate withdrawal symptoms to watch out for in the benzo world. All I knew is that they were sleeping meds and psych meds. The first year off went well for my girlfriend until that one year mark when a wave hit us hard. I had no clue that this was due to the meds because one year was pretty much a success story for us off these meds. My idiotic decisions of calling her mom landed her in the ward and everything went downhill from there and now she is on a CTO in a group home where they dont even allow personal cell phones. And now she is on some mandatory injections. If I would have known to keep my mouth shut then she would have being better off. I wish i knew more about this wonderful community. I didn't know this monster existed. May god help us all.

  • @mikehays0070
    @mikehays0070 Месяц назад +2

    When I first started realizing I was being involuntarily medicated I started sound recording sessions with the social worker. I tucked a sound recorder in my sock before going into the session. When I listened back to the recording there was a few minutes of silence in the middle. From my own conscious perception of time during the session, there did not seem to be any breaks or silent periods, but rather fluid conversation throughout. How come there was a total of 5 minutes of silence with nothing being said? In the middle of that silence the social worker said, "are there any benzos in that", and he wasn't talking to me. I didn't even know what benzos were at that time and it was completely out of context with our conversation. It was a closed room and only myself and the social worker were in the room, at least as far as I was consciously aware. How can I heal if they keep medicating me. They create my suffering and the symptoms and so they keep medicating me because, ofc, it can't be the medication can it, no, it is just a manifestation of a mental illness.

  • @brandonmaddox8870
    @brandonmaddox8870 Месяц назад +3

    Lots of us started in our early teens, so there any network of helping people find knowledgeable doctors? No one wants to prescribe/ gaslight us as addicts or even taper properly?
    I cannot find anyone after 3 years of consults.

  • @garysimone4977
    @garysimone4977 Месяц назад +1

    I actually had a few calls with Chris , he is much better in this platform . Interesting

  • @rachelleshadley7143
    @rachelleshadley7143 Месяц назад +6

    My family doesn't belive I need help im goinf to die please help me

    • @skippy7208
      @skippy7208 Месяц назад

      Could you show them this video? You’re not going to die, it just feels like hell. Hang in there, you will get better. Sending hugs 🤗

  • @34332juju
    @34332juju Месяц назад +6

    No we shouldn't have to go through this experience....it's an experience that doesn't have to be gone through....it is forced on us by the psychiatric industry and their drug pushing...

  • @newjerseydevil6115
    @newjerseydevil6115 Месяц назад +1

    I'd love to speak with Chris Paige. I think he used to live in NJ too.

  • @Jeremy-wy2qc
    @Jeremy-wy2qc Месяц назад +3

    His.words match mine...😮 5 years July im.still not.right
    ..

    • @user-kn6ib1bn6m
      @user-kn6ib1bn6m Месяц назад

      What are your symptoms that still linger?

    • @Jeremy-wy2qc
      @Jeremy-wy2qc Месяц назад

      @user-kn6ib1bn6m ms and dementia I'm pretty sure.i have nerve damage on the right side of.my brain cuz.my entire left side is numb and in contact pain...

  • @rachelleshadley7143
    @rachelleshadley7143 Месяц назад +2

    Can u ask him what to take for gi issue ab when ur stomach stops

  • @shannonoconnell8954
    @shannonoconnell8954 3 дня назад

    Dr Josef, Please stop interrupting! The best interviews are ones where the person can talk freely for extended periods of time.

  • @PeggyCremer-nw1uy
    @PeggyCremer-nw1uy Месяц назад +1

    I was on klonopin 10 years and taken off in 2weeks. It’s now been almost 20years of suffering both on and off meds. I once had a deep faith but I am crushed because I know for sure that I have brain damage in that I can’t feel, joy, or peace. I’ve lost interest in everything I once loved. Just trying to survive the day. Where can I find hope?

  • @akalucinda8821
    @akalucinda8821 Месяц назад +2

    I'm glad to see Chris doing well, unfortunately he didn't believe me either. No hard feelings though. I know this damage runs deep.

  • @afol4016
    @afol4016 15 дней назад +1

    I just realized that Coffee Makes It Worse. None of these videos ever mentioned that, truly.

  • @markisokawa2067
    @markisokawa2067 3 дня назад

    I ran out of xanax early last month and had bad withdrawal symptoms that put me in the ER. I was able to refill my script the following morning and started taking it again. Ever since that day my xanax doesnt work like it used to. Would this still be considered "kindling?"

  • @incognito595
    @incognito595 Месяц назад +3

    What Really bothers Me is when people say ..."my symptoms" when referring to the fact that, such as in my case, you feel like you are dying, and probably could in fact, die, because you sre so seriously ill. So, I would say, "when I feel I may collapse and die with no one knowing, since am alone"...To express how Serious this brain damage is...

  • @prayforjewisheople
    @prayforjewisheople Месяц назад +5

    Scary thought 💭 3 years of akatishia 😢 and insomnia I’m coming of my meds. I’ve take 20 mg Valium. How long do i have to taper?

    • @UTAH100
      @UTAH100 Месяц назад

      have you tried KETO?

    • @michaelk1589
      @michaelk1589 Месяц назад +3

      There is only one proper way to taper: "Symptoms based taper". Start slow and if you feel fine, proceed further. There may be a lag of up to a month when reducing dose of valium. So first 1-3 reductions of dose you should wait this month to see if and when you feel bad reactions from reduction of dose. If month has passed and you feel fine after 5-20% of dose reduction (not recommended more than 10% at first time) then you can try waiitng 3 weeks for instance between dose reductions. But steady tempo is safest, so this 10%/month is giving least chances of something going wrong.
      PS Raw vegan > KETO @UTAH100

    • @jeanf8998
      @jeanf8998 Месяц назад

      I don’t know but I’m considering doing it also.

    • @Stubbornclarity
      @Stubbornclarity Месяц назад

      I'm so sorry.

    • @Q1776Q
      @Q1776Q Месяц назад +1

      Everyone is different.... I took about 2 years to taper off of 3MG of valium

  • @louisgeen765
    @louisgeen765 Месяц назад +5

    Hello people, I have a small question, I’m starting a taper and my doctor is gonna put me on diazepam instead of Xanax. Is it oke to switch over directly or do I need to get slowly used to diazepam?

    • @opeyemiyusuf8965
      @opeyemiyusuf8965 Месяц назад +4

      Diazepam is a long acting Benzo! It’s good to taper off

    • @louisgeen765
      @louisgeen765 Месяц назад

      @@opeyemiyusuf8965 I know but can i directly switch from Xanax to diazepam? Or is that dangerous?

    • @michaelk1589
      @michaelk1589 Месяц назад +3

      Change from Xanax to Diazepam should bo slow and gradual. You need to start introducing small doses of D over a span of 2-4 weeks or more and monitor if you tolerate it. Many people get paradoxical reactions on it and it makes things worse. If that's the case, abort. If you doing fine then after month or so you can start slow raper of xanax. And by slow I mean weeks to months depending on how you feel. After you're off xanax, wait a month or two and then start symptom based taper that fits you.
      These are just common sense guidelines. You may be able to do it faster or perhaps you'll need to take it even slower or abort the transition. Good luck. Its a little gamble tho since, ill repeat myself, plenty of people report bad reactions on diazepam. But might not be the case for you

    • @louisgeen765
      @louisgeen765 Месяц назад

      @@michaelk1589 thank you so much for your reply! Is there a website where I can check how to switch over correctly? And my doctor had helped a lot of people get of benzodiazepines so I’m kinda confused why she want to put me straight onto diazepam

    • @michaelk1589
      @michaelk1589 Месяц назад +1

      PS. If switching to diazepam doesn't work for you, you can try adding more doses of xanax throught the day so that you don't get interdose withdrawal. If you take it 2 x or 3 x /day you can transition to 3/4/5 x /day. Generally people switch do longer lasting benzos for the very reason of interdose withdrawal. If you don't have such case, switching to diazepam might be pointless. So just letting you know there is one more option.

  • @Filthycoffin
    @Filthycoffin Месяц назад +1

    Dude, I am in court and I’m having to see a forensic psychologist that does not believe in any of this!! I really wish you would testify and say there is such a thing as benzodiazepine induced and neurological dysfunction and withdrawal!

  • @KathyWade-iy5bf
    @KathyWade-iy5bf Месяц назад +1

    Can you refer me to a doctor in Texas that will slow taper off of benzos shut down cold turkey for my doctors and have a lot of issues from that now I’ve been a couple pain management doctors and all they want to do is give me ketamine. Keep me comatose with other meds and I don’t want that, how can I contact you for more information for doctors in my area?

  • @juliearcand2358
    @juliearcand2358 Месяц назад +1

    This is absolutely insane. I thought I had a doctor in Washington State who would help me taper off both diazepam and Ms contin: I am really at a loss about trying to get my mental health up and going. I'm at my last straw...I don't even know where to turn anymore

  • @Hownow4
    @Hownow4 Месяц назад +3

    18 years of xanax. Off now. Tapered very slowly by cutting down to nothing. No real side effects. It can happen.

    • @FinHammer
      @FinHammer Месяц назад

      I am so happy to hear this. I hope nothing will show up. Take care ❤

    • @Hownow4
      @Hownow4 Месяц назад +1

      @@FinHammer Thank you so much. Fingers crossed.

  • @rachelleshadley7143
    @rachelleshadley7143 Месяц назад +1

    Can u please help me I can not go to the bathroom anymore and I am self medicating trying to help me

    • @skippy7208
      @skippy7208 Месяц назад +1

      It may be a very tight pelvic floor. Look for pelvic floor release/relaxation exercises on RUclips 👍

  • @RyanMachado-mp4kt
    @RyanMachado-mp4kt 23 дня назад

    I'm being smart with my pills. My psyc doctor prescribed me 2 benzos a day and I don't take them as prescribed, but I take them when I truly need them. I don't want to risk addiction, but the pills do help me deal with debilitating anxiety.

  • @jrman413
    @jrman413 Месяц назад +5

    Please help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @germainedenon311
    @germainedenon311 Месяц назад +11

    Exactly ..we are innocent but many self blame for taking these poison

  • @michaelk1589
    @michaelk1589 Месяц назад +3

    I just noticed your picture with pills in the background lol. Don't you think it can be triggering to some people who are off them but still suffering and watching this? No offence, just sharing my thought. I'd rather have you put a picture of ripe fruits that are high in polyphenols since those components are supposed to speed up healing of nervous system according to some but it sounds reasonable to me.