🦇 Wow, this video took me a long time to do, but it was a blast to put together. What did you think of the Snyder cut and how it changed from the original 2017 Justice League? 🦇 OMG I CALLED DEATHSTROKE, DEAD SHOT ahhhhhhh PS. If you liked these comparison videos check out my other ones here: ruclips.net/p/PLY9KJ1cFVs7gMQ-gKIuedkPVSpTfGQB26
Thank you for catching yourself;-) Im a huge fan of your videos and insights, so it shook my world for a minute... like Merriam-Webster misspelling a word. Keep up the great work, my friend!
Fun fact: most of the characters that were cut by Joss Whedon were people of color/ minorities (to name a few, black Amazonians, black human warriors during flashback scene when Darkseid first invaded, black police chief during heist scene, black female love interest named Iris, Chinese single mother waitress, Asian scientist at Star Labs, Martian Manhunter. and many more. And the few that remained in the 2017 release had their roles diminished (aka Cyborg, his dad, to name a few). Another fun fact: instead of including those minorities, Joss Whedon replaced some of them with a random White Russian family. Also fun fact: The flash landing oh Wonder Woman’s boobs was never part of the intended film, and the actress was not ok with it, by Joss Whedon wanted it so badly he had a body double do the scene. Also fun fact, Joss Whedon had multiple shots of low camera angle looking at Wonde Woman’s butt, which was never intended by Zack. Also fun fact: Joss Whedon’s wife divorced him claiming he’s a fake feminist and a creep. 🤔🤔 what’s your conclusion?
The Asian scientist is Ryan Choi, he’s a superhero The Atom (like Ant-Man). Iris is Iris West, Barry’s future wife (in the comics and the series). Martian Manhunter is General Calvin Swanick (he was last seen in Man of Steel).
my conclusion is that some people want to burn the guy regardless of the truth. I would be interested in the truth, but I don't think I'll get it from the youtube comments section.
@@RedfordGuy General Swanick was also in Batman v Superman, he was a huge part of the storyline involving Lois trying to prove that Superman was innocent.
@@justasaltyboi9119 Go watch the Extended Cut, it was. The theatrical version, just like the JL movie was terribly cut. The actual extended version had expositions and much better writing.
People BvS wasn’t good face it yeah the extended cut made it better but you can’t polish a turd. Also their not saying all dc live action movies sucked (btw the animated ones are way way way way better check them out their on hbo max and their awesome and have their own universe). The thing is if your batting average for good movies is about 50%...yeah idk if you can call it good
The Snyder cut went from making the justice league look like an absolute joke to an insanely enthralling story that has me dying to see what happens next. This is everything I ever wanted the DCEU to be ever since I was a kid. If Webster’s dictionary ever used a visual representation of what redemption is, this should be it.
@@focalpoint._ this movie was definitely a hit and if the flash movie is is think Warner bros would be open to making more movies. I dont know about snyder though
A big one was the flash saying to Aquaman “I thought you ddnt care” and he say “I never said I ddnt” when referring to Cyborg losing his dad... that’s powerful bro
The Snyder cut actually gave the characters some heart and actually made cyborg and the flash more interesting and complicated. Whereas in the Wheadon version, flash is a quirky comic relief that spits one liners and cyborg is just their.
this 4hr film made me realize that films like this where it was needed to introduce a lot of people within the movie itself (especially superheroes) needed to be this long. at first i thought the 4hrs was overkill but then i looked back and realized that aside from batman and superman, the rest of the justice league were introduced in this film. highly commendable of snyder to do every single one of them justice. the universe itself is dark yes but it's also relatable and has a solid foundation for worldbuilding. it's the kind of movie where you cant be too bothered to look up flaws or plot holes because everything was answered, explicity or subtly and you're just okay and satisified with everything. now THIS is a good movie.
I agree. People say its dark but then again... The Dc universe is much much darker than the Marvel universe. I still have some problems with this movie but it is a good step in the right direction.
Very well said. Avengers is a perfect example of your point. There where solo movies of there superheroes so the audience didn't need a full introduction of there characters. But with Justice League a 4 hour movie made sense to fully understand and embrace some of the heroes.
Imo the movie went from dogshit(Joshtice league) to gold standard,one of the best superhero movies,best DCU movie by far imo. And it's not just what was added,it's also about what was cut out. After finishing the Snyder cut I had a wierd feeling,like the movie was way too good across the board,where was the cheese,where was that crapy modern MCU vibe,where was the cringe? Well I know now where,Snyder went in and SYSTEMATICLY removed all the garbage scenes that left a bad taste in my mouth back in 2017,he had my respect as a director even before,for movies like the original 300 and Man of steel and now this cut...Snyder is the man! Imagine Snyder with prep time and money making Justice league 2 Dark side invasion ,I think Snyder with prep time will be like batman with prep time :)
@@thatpenguinate Love the dark theme. This is what I love in Sucker Punch, and since then I liked Snyder's style so I also love MOS ans BVS. I love both MCU and Snyderverse. Even if the chances are very slim, here's to hoping we'll get to see more of the Snyderverse.
The worst part of Whedons' version was that he tried to make Justice League just like Avengers. Justice league is not supposed to be funny. It is dark. It has Batman for God's Sake. P.S. We need Snyder-Verse.
Without a doubt. I watch moves stoned fairly often so I rewatch them until I can fully get it. I've probably "seen" 2017 10 times and still haven't the faintest what happens. Its just so awful.
exactly. You know it's a good movie when it keep your attention for 4 hours. There are 2 hours movie that make you question "when is this going to end" after 30min in.
The Steppenwolf redesign is so huge: He went from a weird looking humanoid goat with a lether vest to a scary and intimidating alien-predator lifeform, ready to take over worlds
Snyder's cinematography is such an appreciation of comic book art, it literally feels like comic book pages come to life. The composition, gesture, how he uses strong shadows to imitate black ink shading in comic book. Simply beautiful. Whedon's visual style is like soap opera lmao. I also start to think the reason why Snyder choose 4:3 ratio is to mimic comic book panel look.
That was in fact Snyder’s intentions. He explained that it gives you a full round view of action rather than restricting action to moving from side-to-side
yet "canon" means nothing to them since they edit or retcon damn near everything (Wonder Woman 1984 pretty much invalidating a lot of BvS and Justice League). _We live in a society where "continuity" is a distant memory_ lol
@@christopherrichardson2945Yeah ikr, also didn't the director try to claim it's "not an actual sequel" (whatever that means) to justify a lot of the changes? Either way the retcons and inconsistencies were egregious, I'm curious what you liked about it though. I liked some of the action scenes and how her cool battle armor looked and that's literally it, I think chasing the 80's trend and going _hard_ to capture a more Marvel-like feel doomed it from the start. Nothing against Marvel btw it's just like comparing Chicken to Steak; both are great meats but they're _very_ different from each other and steak shouldn't be prepared like chicken lol
@@xxxCrackerJack501xxx I think they captured the 80s rather well - and despite some character issues I really liked Maxwell Lord (but Pedro Pascal’s one of my favorite actors, so that’s probably why)
i liked it too, was cool, but why did he have to address Clark as "Master"? he is not just Bruce's butler, he is undoubtly his biggest ally and collaborator, the title "Master" is only attributed to Bruce since for all intents and purposes, Alfred is just Bruce Wayne's butler. ...but it was cool tho
@@jorgetorres9952 "master" is just a title for anyone above his station. As a trained English butler, Alfred would follow a system of routine and customs while dealing with superiors, peers, and subordinates. Even though its modern America, this little bit of dialogue emphasizes Alfreds loyal character, to both tradition and Bruce.
@@funk3nst3in I'm an English teacher, and I just want to congratulate you on your grammar, and ability to express ideas. Great explanation, and great writing!
@@horseoperamarker i missed that dialogue watching the movie but went back to watch the scene. I dont know if it made the josstice league cut but it goes to show the level of technique in the snyder cut
When will Hollyweird executives realize that “scripts by committee” is certain death for a movie? Plus the character Ryan Choi is The Atom 2 in the comics. It was a nice touch mentioning his field of expertise was nanotechnology.
Whedon and Hollywood in general hates Asian males so if they can cut or white-wash an Asian male character they would totally do it. Zack after the death of his 100% Chinese daughter probably learned that white-washing is horrible thing for Asians growing up watching Hollywood movies, so he put the guy back.
@@jammygamer8961 Not including any editing he did before Whedon, he still had a year and more than twice the money Whedon had to make changes to make this most recent version. 6 months vs a year and 30 million compared to 70 million. I am not saying Whedon is superior.. I am just saying Snyder had far more resources.
As a filmmaker, it is actually way complicated than that. The Studio cannot afford one guy to screw the entire company, so they need to be supervised before that. It works extremely well for Marvel, but extremely bad for DC. That's it. It depends on how well the executives are. Unless you're Stanley Kubrick or like Top Tier director. But even he can screw up the box office sometimes.
Snyder’s cut was unexpectedly good, I went in with almost no expectations because I didn’t want to be disappointed. I feel like in this movie the main characters got a chance to be better developed. They feel more like people in Snyder’s (yes the world is still dark but that’s what his vision is and I’m ok with that)and I’m glad we got to see what he wanted to produce. Side-note I really thought 4 hours would be overkill but by god was it needed for the characters, they were absolutely bland and lifeless in the 2017. They were so soulless in the cinema release they were like action figures, not really people with complex motivations. Overall, solid 8.5/10 I hope we get to see more from him. I’m hopeful for brighter days to come for DC, I can’t wait.
@@theboulder7771 yes! I really would have loved to see this split into two movies. I’m so glad we got to see Snyder’s vision, the tone was consistent albeit darker. I just hope we get to see more DC movies like this, I just want a story with heart and soul, not a generic soulless action movie.
Joss Whedon literally reshot every scene with cyborg for a character arc that was severely inferior. One of WB’s reasons for hiring Joss Whedon was “to give the flash something to do” when he literally just cut out all of the flashes scenes that actually had him doing something and reshot them for funny mcu scenes. Honestly the Snyder cut literally exposes the scummy behaviors of Warner Bros and Joss Whedon.
@@xoxopuppies12xoxo Yes, one of the reasons why Marvel is so much more successful is that they set up their hero's before the big fight/ team up. I have yet to watch this movie because its only available on HBO max which is stupid.
@@theboulder7771 fuck off with that setting up solo movie then team up movie. widow and hawkeye had no solo movie before avengers. panther and spiderman also had no solo before CW.
My favorite difference is actually getting a well thought out movie from a director who seemingly cares about the project and seeks to establish a real story worth seeing to its end.
Technically, Snyder didn’t use a single frame that he didn’t photograph, so scenes weren’t “cut,” they were just never part of his vision, ergo, part of the Snyder cut.
Furthermore, people need to stop using "the original" or "the theatrical" to refer to Whedon's version. 1. "The original" doesn't work because, aside from being four hours long instead of the initially-teased 214 minutes and including those Joker and Manhunter scenes, *THIS* is the original version of the film. It's even more original than it would have been in 2017 also because of those new scenes (since they were still Snyder's, the original director of the film) and because of things like Steppenwolf's design. 2. "The theatrical" also doesn't work because a theatrical IMAX release is being discussed for Zack Snyder's Justice League as well.
The biggest accomplishments, in my opinion, is: Lois Lane less annoying. And Cyborg more fleshed out as a character. Great Job Zack. May your daughter smile upon you in heaven.
I'm surprised they didn't just have him grab the people like Quicksilver or something. In the comics Wally West is capable of moving dozens of not thousands of people a second to escape a nuclear bomb as it explodes but maybe they wanted to not make Flash TOO overpowered
One of my favorite scenes was cyborg's dad heating the mother box to help JL locate it when it gets stolen and sacrificing himself doing that. Felt like Snyder even cared to shape the character of cyborg's dad, while Whedon did not even care about Cyborg in the first place!
Cyborg's backstory on Wheadon's version is, in my opinion, is the worst part of the movie, cause he's the character meant to connect the league and the boxes, and a way to solve them, which is what snyder does, while wheadon simply puts "oh and he has the box". Not to mention that his design is ugly af on wheadon and he has no personality there. A major improvement on Snyder's version, it actually made me like him as a character and understand how powerful he is.
so true, I was on the fence about watching Snydercut because of its length and my general dissappointment on how big studios treat beloved stories, didnt think it would come out as good as it did, i think having the movie in 6 different "episodes" also greatly helped digesting its content. i am happy
I wouldn't say Snyder took out or "did away with it" anything, more so he didn't use a single piece of film he didn't shoot himself. He essentially said he'd burn the movie before using footage that wasn't his.
I know what you mean. It's great that other people really liked this because it might get Zack, um...Mr. Snyder, the green light he deserves to make the sequels!
tbh i really didnt like the 2017 version i didnt mnow why but now ds t a about it maybe way more less action and more talking tho most veidoes on action have jokes but the 2017 says them casually even when in battle
I didn't recognise him in the film but saw his name in the credits when I was looking for someone else. It was a nice touch. He was also Marty's older brother in BTTF.
"deathstroke", not deadshot, though the two do look somewhat similar at a glance. Also, deathstroke/slade can beat Bruce in a one on one fight, so it will be interesting to see the two fight.
Bro the 2017 Justice League made no fucking sense, I was so lost where we were at any point in the movie This was so fucking great, it just flowd so well
@@iCanHasRandomness I'm wondering if this could lead to theatrical miniseries or two part movies. Like instead of releasing something like Justice League parts 1 and 2 two years apart, they could release them theatrically a couple weeks apart. Not sure how that'd work. But with this cut of Justice League and the MCU shows, it's nice having all this time for character and plot development.
@@SundayMorning91 I'd be more than glad if HBO did that, but somehow I'm skeptical. Unless they fire all the WB execs and hire some fresh blood, I don't think it'd work. But do prove me wrong, Warners!
The thing that made the first Avengers so good was they all had a solo movie already to introduce them and lay the groundwork. With Justice League only 3/6 were already introduced so I could understand why it had to be so long. Ideally it would have been split into 2 parts
I think even if Snyder completed the film in 2017 it wouldn't be 4 hours probably close to 3 hours and then would have released a 4hr extended cut on blu-ray. But it worked out better this way because who knows if the Knightmare scenes like the Joker would have happened...
This movie was amazing... no, still is. You connect with the heroes, hell I even felt some sympathy for Steppenwolf, and he was fierce, terrifying. I loved it. I almost cried with that one scene of Cyborg talking to his mother. You even felt that Yalan Gur showed his moments more even for a tiny bit. Wonder Woman is so powerful as a woman, warrior, and held nothing back when she took out those scumbags of terrorists. Barry was less nervous but more confident, even if he felt uncomfortable or confused, he still kept going. Batman is not just relying on everyone, he realized that we can fight when we fight together. We reunite. Cyborg is the true heart of the movie, you see his pain, his struggle, his father was trying to help him, his mind was more in work and his mother still reassures him of his love to Victor. Aquaman isn’t just the “I’m cool and badass, I don’t need help” he start to slowly realize that not everything will work out for him when he keep pushing his destiny away, more of creating his own destiny. Superman came back with pure hope, and you see it as “I am back, and you’ll stay away from the ones I’ll die for” and rather than “Well, I’m back and stronger.” And then the other justice league member showed a good and amazing way of telling himself that he needs to step up, and to join with those like him, and that he is no longer alone.
When cyborg is ripping the motherboxes apart and he sees himself and his parents trying to tell him to basically just give up I’m pretty sure those were actually the mother boxes because when it switches back to reality the motherboxes look like they have faces and are screaming out in pain, also in all his other visions cyborg sees himself not as cyborg and wearing the letterman jacket but when tearing apart the motherboxes he finally envisions himself as cyborg like he has finally accepted that and this is built upon even further when he says he’s not broken or alone
The apocalyptic scene got me in tears, because i realised what happened. When the league wakes up superman, cyborg's vision is true. Because in the apocalyptic scene we don't see wonder woman (because she is dead😭), and when Mera said that she will get revenge on Darkseid, is because he killed Aquaman. Superman becomes evil because Lois is dead. (As we heard from the Joker) I know that maybe i am wrong, but that is what i think, and it has logic in it. I will miss them soooo much, because Aquaman and Wonder Woman was my favourite superhero, and Wonder Woman brought me to DC.😭(sorry for wrong spelling)
It’s true. Snyder originally wanted the league to lose in his next JL movie and then in the third JL have flash rewind time to warn Batman and change things.
I don’t think darkside killed aqua man, I think it was Superman, she looked like it was referring to Superman, and there’s a comic out there that has Superman turn evil, and if I remember right he killed arrow, and his lover spends the rest of her life planing to kill Superman, you can see the similarities. Also the fact that Superman just comes down from the skies above them and she looks all mad.
Cyborgs post apocalyptic dream sequence is supposed to represent the cubes trying to break him mentally- to go after his weaknesses- something that is alluded to beforehand.
One thing I really like is that now we have a clearer understanding as to why Cyborg's defense systems kicked on when Superman revived. Cyborg was restored by a mother box, which, unlike what Batman guessed, turned out to be a sentient and likely evil being, evidenced by when Cyborg saw what the mother box systems looked like (horrifying twitchy headed Silent Hill monsters). The mother boxes reacted specifically to Superman's death, considering it the right time to call out to Darkseid in the world's moment of weakness, which adds to the notion that the boxes had minds of their own. When Superman came back, that same nature of the mother boxes likely left over from Cyborg's restoration put Cyborg's defenses on autopilot. The boxes were terrified of Superman, and stayed silent until they thought they were safe. It speaks volumes as to what Snyder accomplished by adding character to nearly everything that was bland and wooden in the Whedon cut, including the mother boxes themselves.
This really tied the two movies together. And adding the set ups into the future of the story, makes them more into pieces of a whole story like the Marvel U. movies.
when i viewed wheedon’s JL in 2017, i had a feeling this was why, only because i’m an avid dc cartoon watcher, so i enjoy that they properly set that up for those who don’t know, or who are unfamiliar with dc
@@scrollingon1637 Or maybe it was setting up Jonathan Kent's Superboy for a future DCEU movie as well as Death of Superman storyline. Both of this would tie in with his DCEU canon death too.
Victor was so charismatic in the Snyder cut! In the first version, I really paid no attention to him and he was honestly forgettable but here, I found myself really drawn to his story and wanting to see more! This new version added so much depth to all the characters, it's crazy!
I preferred the cgi fight scenes in this one too. The Diana scene in the court house really did convey 'super human'. For the R rating, you can also see things like a blood and brain spattered indentation in the wall behind Roose Bolton from where a guy's been thrown. although the movie devolves into the usual cgi wankfest near the end again, this was still just an awesome experience to watch.
@@internetdinosaur8810 I enjoyed about an hour and a half of it broken up thru-out the movie and I also loved Marcian Man Hunter I didn't hate it. I feel like Snyder rushed this one
He thought that everyone want fan-service and Diana ass shot, and what we needed was fleshed out story that would make us hugry for more. And I need more :(
tbh as someone who enjoys k-pop (not a stan), i was real thankful that wasn't in Synder's version. it seemed like YG Entertainment (The company in charge of Blackpink) paid a lot of money to get it in a scene where it was irrelevant and not needed, even to the point Barry talks about the song.
Not sure why my subtitles are different but Lois said "You spoke" and not you smell good, which makes sense since the first thing he said since being resurrected was "This is home"
Great video. I was wondering what the differences were, but then this video dropped and now I don't have to wonder. Real quick, you called Cyborg "Barry" during the time-travel bit and you called Deathstroke "Deadshot" at the yacht part.
Such an amazing movie, this is the true snydervision, lemme buy it already and we better be getting more from him without studio interference the man knows what he’s doing
What I loved the most about the Snyder cut was that you got the chance to understand steppenwolf's motivation as well as what the heck the mother boxes were and how they work. In Joss whedon's cut it felt like off we go to stop the bad guy who is evil just for the sake of being evil.
The final Martian Man Hunter Bruce Wayne conversation. As Martian knew that "Lois Lane is the key" and knows a lot more than anyone else. He has a major role in deciding the next stage of the series.
@@VisceralCarbon we never thought we would even get to see this so we never know I'll be OK with the flash movie bringing the Snyder Cut back into continuity..
12:28 I TOTALLY AGREE, THAT SCENE IN THE SNYDER'S CUT WAS BETTER AND MORE BADASS WITH THE MUSIC. Zack's vision is amazing because he actually CARES about this universe and the characters.
Knightmare actually was (maybe is now that Snyder Cut succeeded) a flash forward to either Justice League 2 or 3. Batman was basically piecing together what would happen if Lois died during their war with Darkseid. Namely that he'd have to join forces with not only old friends, but old enemies.
Lois Is Pregnant. You can see when Bruce and Clark was talking near the house in the ending and Bruce Says “ Congratulations “ and a changed happen there aswell with Lois Holding a Baby Carrier.
@@cannibalbunnygirl kryptonians are not inherently strong like Viltrumites, a kryptonian is as stong as they are because of sunlight and earth's atmosphere.... as a fetus i guess superman's son would be as delicate as a human baby
8:11 "queen hippo-light-ah" But in all seriousness what an amazing piece of work this video was, thanks for combing through all the footage to archive the differences and you deserve all the kudos!
It's weird that you describe scenes from Josstice league as being discarded or thrown away by Zack Snyder, when in reality, they were inserted by Joss. Zack didn't throw anything away because he never saw that version haha
The Snyder Cut made me really enjoy Flash as a character. That opening sequence of him saving the girl in the car crash and having forethought to snag the hot dog for the pups was brilliant. It made me actually want more from Ezra Miller. Whedon's cut made me truly hate the Flash with his snarkiness and awkward behavior. (I think he's a Marvel fan.) This was the Justice League we should have been given, but, understanding the circumstances behind it, I embrace its much anticipated 5-year delay into pop culture, much like Marvel's Blip. Truly a work of art that paid great homage to such great characters.
@@sharinngan5084He shows us that he knows how to decellerate fast enough to avoid infinite mass crashing everytime single he trips ;D But I missed saying him he doesnt know how to fight, instead he is only pushing people.
Why is no one taking about the fact that Ryan Choi is the alter ego of one of the versions of the Atom? I hope that, if they go on with this universe, they introduce him as the superhero he becomes.
Zack Snyder set up so many characters with this movie alone. Atom, Martian Manhunter, New Gods, Granny Goodness secret invasion, Flash, Cyborg, Aquaman, Batman vs Deathstroke, Legion of doom etc. We would have gotten Shazam, Green Lantern, Hawkman and hawkgirl etc in Justice League 2.
Anyone tired of "The Amazonian Music" coming out of nowhere everytime Diana appears in a battle? I thought she carries a speaker everywhere she goes and does the humming herself....
The Flash missed his chance of jump starting the cube to resurrect Superman so he turned back time a little to hit that precise moment. Also Flash phasing through the blast wave at the end so he didn't, that was really epic. Small details that really respects the characters and their super powers.
@@Xfactories I might be wrong but the mother box hit the water, cyborg said it should be as soon as it hit the water but Barry was late so he out ran time a little and broke his rule to hit that precious moment. Same thing happened on a larger scale at the end, Barry got hit and missed his shot and boxes synced up so he out ran time again to the point where he could give that electrical charge that was needed for cyborg to enter his mind in the mother boxes.
@@MeeranArshad No, that's in the Whedon version only.. In the Snyder cut, the box is intended to come back out of the water to show that he is changing time with his speed (even if only just a little). Plus he touches it before it hits. This sets up the bigger time change for the finale.
@@Xfactories that's interesting. Cause I believed that, that moment was created to show how Berry stays precious even after making mistake. But the box bouncing back out of the water wasnt really in the Snyder's Cut, it was literally showing the time rewind itself as Berry breaks the light barrier hence him out running that missed moment to the point hitting the box at a perfect time. But you could be right as well 😊 All and all Snyder made Berry what he should be as Flash, love it
I dunno but to be honest.... The movie gives me goosebump, each scene has a perfectly made background music with a very dark yet perfect frame by frame movie scene... Every single scene is like perfected.... And every character is shown an importance that shows how much respect is done to the original dc comics ... Warner bros should drop justice league ... Thats my conclusion... Movie is a 10/10
@ThinkStory The island where Diana is from is Themyscira not Theramysia. But there is a Greek island called Therasia. Also, at the end, Batman lies about Harley Quinn's death. He just said that because he wanted to upset him. That's why Joker's hand stops trembling after a little while while also saying "You're good". Meaning that Batman got what he wanted by making him show his feelings for her by losing it psychologically which we can see that from his trembling. Batman wanted to hurt him using someone who he loved with his own crazy and twisted way and he did.
@@mob19001 If you're referring at Harley Quinn's death, according to Snyder she was going to die in the JL2 alongside Aquaman, Lois and Diana and almost everybody were going to die by Superman influenced by Darkseid and all the things Cyborg saw at a vision. If you're referring to something else, I request elaboration.
Great review! The Synders cut is beyond a great movie, I would have to rank it up there with Logan, and Endgame. We all need to appreciate the work the people did in demanding this movie. What I don't understand why they didn't go with this one, and technically this was the orginal cut, I am guessing haters....FOR AUTUMN!
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Missed a few things, like when Cyborg saw his family, it was the box telling him to give up as mentioned earlier when discussing him splitting it back up. Overall, good analysis.
16:18 “you smell good” was a Josstice League ADR. in the snyder cut, lois says “you spoke,” meaning that this is the first time he’s spoken since being resurrected. in the whedon cut, he speaks in the fight against the league, rendering the line a continuity error. so whedon’s bright idea was to change “you spoke” into *“you smell good”*
@@VideosGalacticos To be fair yes it can seem grating. But in contrast, whenever anyone specific was doing something, they had their own music. Even Evil Superman has his own music.
@@mounne13 @Dope92 I agree, I think the soundtrack was really exaggerated but it is really cool. However, even a good song can get bad if used at the wrong times. Imagine if every time Darth Vader appears Play Imperial March, it would make the music sickening. My opinion
I swear whedon is a mole for marvel trying to eff up DC JL because no way in hell whedon saw his JL finished version and thought ‘yeah this is great, audiences will love this’. Thank god for synder.
Try cutting this movie into 2 hours like Whedon did and then talk shit about him, Snyder had the luxury of not having it in cinema, so he didnt have to lower the runtime, maybe people need to remember how much more responsibility Whedon had, where as JL had the luxury of being 4 hours and being digital only movie.
@@Glade4 Zack synder cut in 2 hours will still be better that parody of crap whedon did. Everything about it is crap. Simple. Only losers defend that crap.
Well Whedon wasn’t associated with marvel at the time as he stepped down after age of ultron. WB asked Whedon to work on the Snyder Cut. If anything, it’s once again WB’s fault
@@yourenotrelatable I say the same thing, but I watched it because I wanted to know what was happening in the crossovers. They sort of all fall in line, but Arrow was my favorite and now i prefer Legends of Tomorrow. As far as the CW shows are concerned. Are there better shows?
🦇 Wow, this video took me a long time to do, but it was a blast to put together. What did you think of the Snyder cut and how it changed from the original 2017 Justice League? 🦇
OMG I CALLED DEATHSTROKE, DEAD SHOT ahhhhhhh
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Thank you for catching yourself;-) Im a huge fan of your videos and insights, so it shook my world for a minute... like Merriam-Webster misspelling a word.
Keep up the great work, my friend!
Yes, but is it better and deserve an oscar perhaps?
It's gotta be canon now!
Thanks, it was the exact kind of video I was looking for after watching the movie
You also said when Barry touched Barry 😂 but it’s all good. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
Fun fact: most of the characters that were cut by Joss Whedon were people of color/ minorities (to name a few, black Amazonians, black human warriors during flashback scene when Darkseid first invaded, black police chief during heist scene, black female love interest named Iris, Chinese single mother waitress, Asian scientist at Star Labs, Martian Manhunter. and many more. And the few that remained in the 2017 release had their roles diminished (aka Cyborg, his dad, to name a few). Another fun fact: instead of including those minorities, Joss Whedon replaced some of them with a random White Russian family. Also fun fact: The flash landing oh Wonder Woman’s boobs was never part of the intended film, and the actress was not ok with it, by Joss Whedon wanted it so badly he had a body double do the scene. Also fun fact, Joss Whedon had multiple shots of low camera angle looking at Wonde Woman’s butt, which was never intended by Zack. Also fun fact: Joss Whedon’s wife divorced him claiming he’s a fake feminist and a creep.
🤔🤔 what’s your conclusion?
Totally agree. I noticed that too.
The Asian scientist is Ryan Choi, he’s a superhero The Atom (like Ant-Man). Iris is Iris West, Barry’s future wife (in the comics and the series). Martian Manhunter is General Calvin Swanick (he was last seen in Man of Steel).
my conclusion is that some people want to burn the guy regardless of the truth.
I would be interested in the truth, but I don't think I'll get it from the youtube comments section.
lmao linking bs over here
@@RedfordGuy General Swanick was also in Batman v Superman, he was a huge part of the storyline involving Lois trying to prove that Superman was innocent.
My favorite part in ZSCJL is when they cut Joss Whedon name in the credits.
Lmao
I'm glad Joss Whedon Didn't appear in Snyder cut
The Snyder Cut was the first DC Movie that left me actually WANTING to see the Sequel. And now I'm more pissed that we'll never get to see it.
@@chunnel6885 no it fucking wasn't
@@justasaltyboi9119 Go watch the Extended Cut, it was. The theatrical version, just like the JL movie was terribly cut. The actual extended version had expositions and much better writing.
I don't know, after how shitty the DC movies have been up until then, I wouldn,'t be surprised.
And what about shazam? Is a great and funny movie
People BvS wasn’t good face it yeah the extended cut made it better but you can’t polish a turd.
Also their not saying all dc live action movies sucked (btw the animated ones are way way way way better check them out their on hbo max and their awesome and have their own universe). The thing is if your batting average for good movies is about 50%...yeah idk if you can call it good
The Snyder cut went from making the justice league look like an absolute joke to an insanely enthralling story that has me dying to see what happens next. This is everything I ever wanted the DCEU to be ever since I was a kid. If Webster’s dictionary ever used a visual representation of what redemption is, this should be it.
the worst thing is Synder cut has left us wanting more but that is not gonna happen
@@mosesranadive568 We stiil got the Flash movie! Just hope Warner doesn’t fuck it up.
@@focalpoint._ this movie was definitely a hit and if the flash movie is is think Warner bros would be open to making more movies. I dont know about snyder though
😂😅🤣 ok
This movie has everyone excited for a sequel as is already the most praised dc movie and WB thinks it’s smart to cancel any sequal
A big one was the flash saying to Aquaman “I thought you ddnt care” and he say “I never said I ddnt” when referring to Cyborg losing his dad... that’s powerful bro
im pretty sure its about aquaman telling flash that what cyborg aim to do is suicidal. not about him losing his father.
@@princeofsomnia7664 it's about both since he mentioned that he just lost his father
everyone has a line like that lol over done
@@poorsoul8492 what lol, no they dont
If you can't bring down charging Bull then don't wave the Red Cap at him
The Snyder cut actually gave the characters some heart and actually made cyborg and the flash more interesting and complicated. Whereas in the Wheadon version, flash is a quirky comic relief that spits one liners and cyborg is just their.
Yeah the characters had more depth but flash was still annoying
this 4hr film made me realize that films like this where it was needed to introduce a lot of people within the movie itself (especially superheroes) needed to be this long. at first i thought the 4hrs was overkill but then i looked back and realized that aside from batman and superman, the rest of the justice league were introduced in this film. highly commendable of snyder to do every single one of them justice. the universe itself is dark yes but it's also relatable and has a solid foundation for worldbuilding. it's the kind of movie where you cant be too bothered to look up flaws or plot holes because everything was answered, explicity or subtly and you're just okay and satisified with everything. now THIS is a good movie.
I agree. People say its dark but then again... The Dc universe is much much darker than the Marvel universe. I still have some problems with this movie but it is a good step in the right direction.
Very well said. Avengers is a perfect example of your point. There where solo movies of there superheroes so the audience didn't need a full introduction of there characters. But with Justice League a 4 hour movie made sense to fully understand and embrace some of the heroes.
Imo the movie went from dogshit(Joshtice league) to gold standard,one of the best superhero movies,best DCU movie by far imo.
And it's not just what was added,it's also about what was cut out.
After finishing the Snyder cut I had a wierd feeling,like the movie was way too good across the board,where was the cheese,where was that crapy modern MCU vibe,where was the cringe?
Well I know now where,Snyder went in and SYSTEMATICLY removed all the garbage scenes that left a bad taste in my mouth back in 2017,he had my respect as a director even before,for movies like the original 300 and Man of steel and now this cut...Snyder is the man!
Imagine Snyder with prep time and money making Justice league 2 Dark side invasion ,I think Snyder with prep time will be like batman with prep time :)
@@thatpenguinate Love the dark theme. This is what I love in Sucker Punch, and since then I liked Snyder's style so I also love MOS ans BVS. I love both MCU and Snyderverse. Even if the chances are very slim, here's to hoping we'll get to see more of the Snyderverse.
@@hikari9262 Agreed
Snyder: Cyborg: "I'm not broken. And I'm not alone."
Whedon: Cyborg: "My toes hurt. Hahaha! I don't even understand the physics of why my toes hurt!"
Whedon: Wonder Woman: "Children. I work with children."
Toes
@@Memelord2020 Who would've guessed she was talking about Joss.
Whedon Batman: 😃
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Joss superman: i take it back. I wanna die😂😂😂
The worst part of Whedons' version was that he tried to make Justice League just like Avengers.
Justice league is not supposed to be funny. It is dark. It has Batman for God's Sake.
P.S. We need Snyder-Verse.
Yeah that's a huge difference where MCU gives enjoyment, DC brings emotion
The 4 hour Snyder Cut actually has more rewatchability than the 2 hour.. whatever that was in 2017
Without a doubt. I watch moves stoned fairly often so I rewatch them until I can fully get it. I've probably "seen" 2017 10 times and still haven't the faintest what happens. Its just so awful.
I agree
2018 and between infinity war and end game they were actually even longer
Releasing that absolute slop back then instead of this was one of the worst decisions WB has ever made
Big fact
that flash scene in the ending always gives me chills.. didnt feel like a 4hr movie at all. it was epic.
Best part never seen that coming
Seconded
Yeah, it doesn’t feel long at all. First time I watched It, I couldn’t believe that an hour went already by
@@gotchewz Had the same exact reaction. I figured I was thirty minutes in during Flash's introduction. It had been about an hour and fifteen minutes.
exactly. You know it's a good movie when it keep your attention for 4 hours. There are 2 hours movie that make you question "when is this going to end" after 30min in.
The Steppenwolf redesign is so huge: He went from a weird looking humanoid goat with a lether vest to a scary and intimidating alien-predator lifeform, ready to take over worlds
It's the original design. You can see this design of him in Batman v Superman.
The new design in Zack Snyder's Justice League was amazing.
The previous version was "Marvel Version"
@@thousandyoung lmao
Snyder's cinematography is such an appreciation of comic book art, it literally feels like comic book pages come to life. The composition, gesture, how he uses strong shadows to imitate black ink shading in comic book. Simply beautiful. Whedon's visual style is like soap opera lmao. I also start to think the reason why Snyder choose 4:3 ratio is to mimic comic book panel look.
Agreed. Many shots in his movies are just breathtakingly beautiful.
People complain about his slow motion scenes. I think they are some of the most gorgeous scenes I’ve ever seen
@@MsAbcdemily I agree. They are stunning.
Yes he does! He has a great eye
That was in fact Snyder’s intentions. He explained that it gives you a full round view of action rather than restricting action to moving from side-to-side
Warner Bros stated that this version IS NOT canon.
We need to petition for the Snyder Sequels now
So ironically it’s in the Extended Universe canon
yet "canon" means nothing to them since they edit or retcon damn near everything (Wonder Woman 1984 pretty much invalidating a lot of BvS and Justice League). _We live in a society where "continuity" is a distant memory_ lol
@@xxxCrackerJack501xxx my biggest problem with WW84 (which I enjoyed, I know) was the retcons
@@christopherrichardson2945Yeah ikr, also didn't the director try to claim it's "not an actual sequel" (whatever that means) to justify a lot of the changes? Either way the retcons and inconsistencies were egregious, I'm curious what you liked about it though. I liked some of the action scenes and how her cool battle armor looked and that's literally it, I think chasing the 80's trend and going _hard_ to capture a more Marvel-like feel doomed it from the start. Nothing against Marvel btw it's just like comparing Chicken to Steak; both are great meats but they're _very_ different from each other and steak shouldn't be prepared like chicken lol
@@xxxCrackerJack501xxx I think they captured the 80s rather well - and despite some character issues I really liked Maxwell Lord (but Pedro Pascal’s one of my favorite actors, so that’s probably why)
I loved it in the Snyder cut when Alfred called Superman "Master Kent".
i liked it too, was cool, but why did he have to address Clark as "Master"? he is not just Bruce's butler, he is undoubtly his biggest ally and collaborator, the title "Master" is only attributed to Bruce since for all intents and purposes, Alfred is just Bruce Wayne's butler. ...but it was cool tho
@@jorgetorres9952 "master" is just a title for anyone above his station. As a trained English butler, Alfred would follow a system of routine and customs while dealing with superiors, peers, and subordinates. Even though its modern America, this little bit of dialogue emphasizes Alfreds loyal character, to both tradition and Bruce.
@@funk3nst3in I'm an English teacher, and I just want to congratulate you on your grammar, and ability to express ideas. Great explanation, and great writing!
@@funk3nst3in best explanation
@@horseoperamarker i missed that dialogue watching the movie but went back to watch the scene. I dont know if it made the josstice league cut but it goes to show the level of technique in the snyder cut
When will Hollyweird executives realize that “scripts by committee” is certain death for a movie? Plus the character Ryan Choi is The Atom 2 in the comics. It was a nice touch mentioning his field of expertise was nanotechnology.
How do u have that picture and not be madd he call the Deathstroke Deadshot twice. .....what's going on?
@@Chris-rg6nm He didn't edit the film for 3 years
Whedon and Hollywood in general hates Asian males so if they can cut or white-wash an Asian male character they would totally do it. Zack after the death of his 100% Chinese daughter probably learned that white-washing is horrible thing for Asians growing up watching Hollywood movies, so he put the guy back.
@@jammygamer8961 Not including any editing he did before Whedon, he still had a year and more than twice the money Whedon had to make changes to make this most recent version.
6 months vs a year and 30 million compared to 70 million. I am not saying Whedon is superior.. I am just saying Snyder had far more resources.
As a filmmaker, it is actually way complicated than that. The Studio cannot afford one guy to screw the entire company, so they need to be supervised before that. It works extremely well for Marvel, but extremely bad for DC. That's it. It depends on how well the executives are. Unless you're Stanley Kubrick or like Top Tier director. But even he can screw up the box office sometimes.
Snyder’s cut was unexpectedly good, I went in with almost no expectations because I didn’t want to be disappointed. I feel like in this movie the main characters got a chance to be better developed. They feel more like people in Snyder’s (yes the world is still dark but that’s what his vision is and I’m ok with that)and I’m glad we got to see what he wanted to produce. Side-note I really thought 4 hours would be overkill but by god was it needed for the characters, they were absolutely bland and lifeless in the 2017. They were so soulless in the cinema release they were like action figures, not really people with complex motivations. Overall, solid 8.5/10 I hope we get to see more from him. I’m hopeful for brighter days to come for DC, I can’t wait.
@@theboulder7771 yes! I really would have loved to see this split into two movies. I’m so glad we got to see Snyder’s vision, the tone was consistent albeit darker. I just hope we get to see more DC movies like this, I just want a story with heart and soul, not a generic soulless action movie.
Joss Whedon literally reshot every scene with cyborg for a character arc that was severely inferior. One of WB’s reasons for hiring Joss Whedon was “to give the flash something to do” when he literally just cut out all of the flashes scenes that actually had him doing something and reshot them for funny mcu scenes. Honestly the Snyder cut literally exposes the scummy behaviors of Warner Bros and Joss Whedon.
@@xoxopuppies12xoxo Yes, one of the reasons why Marvel is so much more successful is that they set up their hero's before the big fight/ team up. I have yet to watch this movie because its only available on HBO max which is stupid.
@@theboulder7771 fuck off with that setting up solo movie then team up movie. widow and hawkeye had no solo movie before avengers. panther and spiderman also had no solo before CW.
👍
My favorite difference is actually getting a well thought out movie from a director who seemingly cares about the project and seeks to establish a real story worth seeing to its end.
Technically, Snyder didn’t use a single frame that he didn’t photograph, so scenes weren’t “cut,” they were just never part of his vision, ergo, part of the Snyder cut.
Furthermore, people need to stop using "the original" or "the theatrical" to refer to Whedon's version.
1. "The original" doesn't work because, aside from being four hours long instead of the initially-teased 214 minutes and including those Joker and Manhunter scenes, *THIS* is the original version of the film. It's even more original than it would have been in 2017 also because of those new scenes (since they were still Snyder's, the original director of the film) and because of things like Steppenwolf's design.
2. "The theatrical" also doesn't work because a theatrical IMAX release is being discussed for Zack Snyder's Justice League as well.
@@raidenthenctzenwithinsomni4961 okay, so we have the Studio cut and the Directors cut. Much better, right?
@@kadenthehuman I'll do you one better, Josstice League and Zack Snyder's Justice League.
Or Whedon Cut vs. Snyder Cut
or children's version v Grown up's version
@@raidenthenctzenwithinsomni4961 it's not that serious
feel like that steppenwolf breaking those arrows from his armor is a subtle reference to 300 arrows to spartans shields.
Yeah, dam good scene
300 & Watchmen are the most amazing movie by Snyder for me, before this movie came out.
Zeus in this film also looks like Leonidas from 300
Themiscyra felt a lot like Sparta as a whole. "Show them your fear," feels like it came right out of Leonidas's mouth.
Totally! it was a a reference to spartan shields!
The biggest accomplishments, in my opinion, is: Lois Lane less annoying. And Cyborg more fleshed out as a character. Great Job Zack. May your daughter smile upon you in heaven.
People who kill themselves don't end in heaven .
@@XXXXD and people who die just die. Nothing after that
@@solidcake8728 islam is the one true religion and Allah is the only god, our maker, our sustainer, may peace be upon everyone.
@@solidcake8728 thats true your body returns to earth etc etc
Zack Snyder’s Justice League was amazing. Got so many chills while watching this movie.
It's already out?
@@grandpadoomslayeralsomars2264 Yes. HBO MAX.
Dude you are awesome. The first person on RUclips to do a scene by scene of the Snyder cut
yes, I agree and I'm glad that he did this too.
Yo i saw ur account picture
At the same time, this released a day ago
So true everybody else is saying they'll have it done by next week 😅
2 words... emergency awesome
"I often wonder, in how many alternate timelines do you destroy the world..."
Too many actually...
Batman who laughs, "all of them"
WB: Amateurs
Both Cyborg and flash were done justice. The Flash scene of him saving the hostages from the Debris was badass
The time travel part was the best
That scene is superb man, it shows that flash is way faster than light
@@HG_Film both scenes were. And people say Superman's too op when Flash can literally alter the fabric of existence and time
I'm surprised they didn't just have him grab the people like Quicksilver or something. In the comics Wally West is capable of moving dozens of not thousands of people a second to escape a nuclear bomb as it explodes but maybe they wanted to not make Flash TOO overpowered
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought Cyborg and Flash had some of the best scenes!!
One of my favorite scenes was cyborg's dad heating the mother box to help JL locate it when it gets stolen and sacrificing himself doing that. Felt like Snyder even cared to shape the character of cyborg's dad, while Whedon did not even care about Cyborg in the first place!
Cyborg's backstory on Wheadon's version is, in my opinion, is the worst part of the movie, cause he's the character meant to connect the league and the boxes, and a way to solve them, which is what snyder does, while wheadon simply puts "oh and he has the box". Not to mention that his design is ugly af on wheadon and he has no personality there. A major improvement on Snyder's version, it actually made me like him as a character and understand how powerful he is.
Hell, it seemed like Whedon didn't even care for Ray Fisher. From what I hear he treated Ray like shit.
Zack's just had more emotion. The Story really pulls you in that you forget how long it is.
so true, I was on the fence about watching Snydercut because of its length and my general dissappointment on how big studios treat beloved stories, didnt think it would come out as good as it did, i think having the movie in 6 different "episodes" also greatly helped digesting its content.
i am happy
Flash wasn't struggling to find a job, he had like 5 jobs. He was using his powers to work as much as possible.
Struggling to earn money?
@@cannibalbunnygirl he’s trying to pay for his education.
@@LoadingUser01 yeah that's what I was clarifying for Josh. Sorry if it seemed like I was asking a question
Oh, I was confused too. I thought he was struggling because of his crinkled up resume and his attitude at the start of the interview.
With his power, he should be able to create a startup easily.
I wouldn't say Snyder took out or "did away with it" anything, more so he didn't use a single piece of film he didn't shoot himself. He essentially said he'd burn the movie before using footage that wasn't his.
Great review, I really needed this.
You really need someone else's opinion before you decide what you like?
I know what you mean. It's great that other people really liked this because it might get Zack, um...Mr. Snyder, the green light he deserves to make the sequels!
Yeah it was nice review
tbh i really didnt like the 2017 version i didnt mnow why
but now ds t a about it maybe way more less action and more talking tho most veidoes on action have jokes but the 2017 says them casually even when in battle
You forgot to include that in the Snyder cut, Steppenwolf has 7 fingers on each hand.
THANK GOD SOMEONE NOTICED I THOUGHT THAT WAS GROTESQUE ASL
Steppenwolf's design was badass!
@@antebellum1776 pretty awesome
...better to hold a Mother box with one hand
oh neat I didn't notice that
4:45 The cop that Lois Lane keeps bring coffee for is the actor who played Jimmy Olson in the Reeve Superman films
I didn't recognise him in the film but saw his name in the credits when I was looking for someone else. It was a nice touch. He was also Marty's older brother in BTTF.
He was the prison officer when Flash goes to visit his dad in the Josstice League
Wow, that's so awesome. Thanks for pointing this out.
this is the comment i was looking for, cuz its gonna be actor to play that role
"deathstroke", not deadshot, though the two do look somewhat similar at a glance. Also, deathstroke/slade can beat Bruce in a one on one fight, so it will be interesting to see the two fight.
Yes thank you, I got so annoyed everytime he said Deadshot lol
He also called Cyborg BARRY once.
De hecho en los comics se dice que batman es más fuerte y cuando pelean slade dice que solo lo dejo vivir por su regla de no matar
Bro the 2017 Justice League made no fucking sense, I was so lost where we were at any point in the movie
This was so fucking great, it just flowd so well
because it's 4 fucking hours long, duh. Trim this movie to 2h and see what you get
@@iCanHasRandomness I'm wondering if this could lead to theatrical miniseries or two part movies. Like instead of releasing something like Justice League parts 1 and 2 two years apart, they could release them theatrically a couple weeks apart. Not sure how that'd work. But with this cut of Justice League and the MCU shows, it's nice having all this time for character and plot development.
@@SundayMorning91 I'd be more than glad if HBO did that, but somehow I'm skeptical. Unless they fire all the WB execs and hire some fresh blood, I don't think it'd work. But do prove me wrong, Warners!
The thing that made the first Avengers so good was they all had a solo movie already to introduce them and lay the groundwork. With Justice League only 3/6 were already introduced so I could understand why it had to be so long. Ideally it would have been split into 2 parts
I think even if Snyder completed the film in 2017 it wouldn't be 4 hours probably close to 3 hours and then would have released a 4hr extended cut on blu-ray. But it worked out better this way because who knows if the Knightmare scenes like the Joker would have happened...
This movie was amazing... no, still is. You connect with the heroes, hell I even felt some sympathy for Steppenwolf, and he was fierce, terrifying. I loved it. I almost cried with that one scene of Cyborg talking to his mother. You even felt that Yalan Gur showed his moments more even for a tiny bit. Wonder Woman is so powerful as a woman, warrior, and held nothing back when she took out those scumbags of terrorists. Barry was less nervous but more confident, even if he felt uncomfortable or confused, he still kept going. Batman is not just relying on everyone, he realized that we can fight when we fight together. We reunite. Cyborg is the true heart of the movie, you see his pain, his struggle, his father was trying to help him, his mind was more in work and his mother still reassures him of his love to Victor. Aquaman isn’t just the “I’m cool and badass, I don’t need help” he start to slowly realize that not everything will work out for him when he keep pushing his destiny away, more of creating his own destiny. Superman came back with pure hope, and you see it as “I am back, and you’ll stay away from the ones I’ll die for” and rather than “Well, I’m back and stronger.” And then the other justice league member showed a good and amazing way of telling himself that he needs to step up, and to join with those like him, and that he is no longer alone.
Indeed bro. I do feel the same for steppenwolf
Steppenwolf : *puppy dog eyes while talking to Darkseid*
Darkseid : *stomps on steppenwolf’s decapitated head*
that got me depressed.
@@GhebiPutri why
@@indianathe3rd742 he looks like a sad puppy
@@GhebiPutri Demonic sad puppy
This movie felt so comic book it actually made me wanna cry that I'm alive to witness this
Flash reversing time and stopping the falling debris on the rooftop were two of my favourite scenes
Really? I really like the past battle between earth defenders and darkseid armada. The old gods are very cool
When cyborg is ripping the motherboxes apart and he sees himself and his parents trying to tell him to basically just give up I’m pretty sure those were actually the mother boxes because when it switches back to reality the motherboxes look like they have faces and are screaming out in pain, also in all his other visions cyborg sees himself not as cyborg and wearing the letterman jacket but when tearing apart the motherboxes he finally envisions himself as cyborg like he has finally accepted that and this is built upon even further when he says he’s not broken or alone
Redemption arc of Zack Synder
He didn't need no Redemption. WB did
More like vindication. "Redemption" sounds like the 2017 cut was his, which we have established since then that it wasn't.
Of what? The film cut was superior don't get me wrong but it's not spectacular also its not a sure fire megahit
@@inigobantok1579 It's already breaking records, so... shoo shoo.
@@raidenthenctzenwithinsomni4961 of what? Hbo max subscribers? Sure but these DC Snyderish edgy fans are blowing this film out of proportion
"I've turned critics to dust. All of positive reviews shall be MINE" -Zack Snyder
Not gonna lie, one surprisingly badass part was when Mera started siphoning the blood out of Steppenwolf's head.
what I’m sayin bro
Blood bending
YES!
Now if only the actress wasn’t amber heard
@@Lucy_Luuu Wait, what? The actress IS Amber Heard 🤔😂
The apocalyptic scene got me in tears, because i realised what happened. When the league wakes up superman, cyborg's vision is true. Because in the apocalyptic scene we don't see wonder woman (because she is dead😭), and when Mera said that she will get revenge on Darkseid, is because he killed Aquaman. Superman becomes evil because Lois is dead. (As we heard from the Joker) I know that maybe i am wrong, but that is what i think, and it has logic in it. I will miss them soooo much, because Aquaman and Wonder Woman was my favourite superhero, and Wonder Woman brought me to DC.😭(sorry for wrong spelling)
Not sure if related but arthur and diana stabbed and chopped steppy and theyre the first to shown dead in the knightmare as well
It’s true. Snyder originally wanted the league to lose in his next JL movie and then in the third JL have flash rewind time to warn Batman and change things.
I don’t think darkside killed aqua man, I think it was Superman, she looked like it was referring to Superman, and there’s a comic out there that has Superman turn evil, and if I remember right he killed arrow, and his lover spends the rest of her life planing to kill Superman, you can see the similarities. Also the fact that Superman just comes down from the skies above them and she looks all mad.
But who killed Lois?
@@amaradonaytsevaot9394 joker maybe
Cyborgs post apocalyptic dream sequence is supposed to represent the cubes trying to break him mentally- to go after his weaknesses- something that is alluded to beforehand.
Agree, he was warned that the mother boxes will do everything to prevent separating and will attack him mentally.
Cool, but that wasn't reall clear in the movie...
@@skynet.52 It was, Wonder Woman told him so, to be prepared and that the Mother boxes will throw everything at him to mess with his mind.
16:17 Lois says “You SPOKE” in The Snyder Cut! It was changed to “you smell good” in Whedon’s version
One thing I really like is that now we have a clearer understanding as to why Cyborg's defense systems kicked on when Superman revived. Cyborg was restored by a mother box, which, unlike what Batman guessed, turned out to be a sentient and likely evil being, evidenced by when Cyborg saw what the mother box systems looked like (horrifying twitchy headed Silent Hill monsters).
The mother boxes reacted specifically to Superman's death, considering it the right time to call out to Darkseid in the world's moment of weakness, which adds to the notion that the boxes had minds of their own.
When Superman came back, that same nature of the mother boxes likely left over from Cyborg's restoration put Cyborg's defenses on autopilot. The boxes were terrified of Superman, and stayed silent until they thought they were safe.
It speaks volumes as to what Snyder accomplished by adding character to nearly everything that was bland and wooden in the Whedon cut, including the mother boxes themselves.
This really tied the two movies together. And adding the set ups into the future of the story, makes them more into pieces of a whole story like the Marvel U. movies.
Oh man, you're absolutely right!!
when i viewed wheedon’s JL in 2017, i had a feeling this was why, only because i’m an avid dc cartoon watcher, so i enjoy that they properly set that up for those who don’t know, or who are unfamiliar with dc
It was fantastic. As someone who just recently saw the 2017 version he properly portrayed the heroes and villains strengths
Finished watching 2017 cut literally minutes before I started Snyder cut - it’s so (k)night and day, they feel like 2 completely different movies
At the end of the movie Bruce told Clark "Congratulations by the way" which is probably a hint that he's about to become a father.
I think it's cos they got married. Clark says "I take that as a yes?" when he see's Lois after being resurrected.
@@mcgruber No, Lois is indeed pregnant. They changed her scene from carrying a box in the 2017 movie to carrying a baby basket in the Snyder Cut
Yup there was a pregnancy test in a scene too
That might tie into the Injustice post apocalyptic future where, I'm assuming Lois and her unborn child dies causing Superman to go dark
@@scrollingon1637 Or maybe it was setting up Jonathan Kent's Superboy for a future DCEU movie as well as Death of Superman storyline. Both of this would tie in with his DCEU canon death too.
I slept through the whole movie (2017 Justice Leauge) but Snyder's Cut kept me awake until 3am.
The key difference.. This one Is FUCKING AMAZING
Hallelujah
Victor was so charismatic in the Snyder cut! In the first version, I really paid no attention to him and he was honestly forgettable but here, I found myself really drawn to his story and wanting to see more! This new version added so much depth to all the characters, it's crazy!
I preferred the cgi fight scenes in this one too. The Diana scene in the court house really did convey 'super human'. For the R rating, you can also see things like a blood and brain spattered indentation in the wall behind Roose Bolton from where a guy's been thrown.
although the movie devolves into the usual cgi wankfest near the end again, this was still just an awesome experience to watch.
Only an hour and 23 minutes were amazing to watch as for the rest it was painful and almost never ending
@@DevMode951 thx for watching 😆
Yes that was badass I feel like Joss didn't show how powerful she really is and zack nailed it
Sad you didnt enjoy it. Those 4 hours for me went by like a bullet
@@internetdinosaur8810 I enjoyed about an hour and a half of it broken up thru-out the movie and I also loved Marcian Man Hunter I didn't hate it. I feel like Snyder rushed this one
Joker looks like a 4 year old ate spaghetti and didn't wash his mouth.
😂 perfect description! I wish it was seared outwards a bit more into a smile
who laughs like a seagull for some reason
who is is the movie for whatever reason and has long hair bc Jared Letto is too lazy
@@slowpie more like a door creaking open
True!! Plus I just really don't like Leto's version of Joker. Heath had the best joker ever. RIP
* Zack Snyder's Justice League releases *
Fans: Ready the armada, we will use the old ways...
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
I didn't expect to like this movie so much. I immediately wanted to rewatch it, even at 4 hours. I'm really happy I didn't see the first cut.
Same. My girlfriend is dying to rewatch it.
I watched it twice in 2 days. I think I will watch it again soon.🤣
Liked the music in Zacks better. The bad guys entering the bank had that "Sucker Punch" vibe with the sound and feel. Really enjoyed it.
Why did Whedon cut so much vital information, but have enough time to add a scene where Barry falls on Diana?
He thought that everyone want fan-service and Diana ass shot, and what we needed was fleshed out story that would make us hugry for more. And I need more :(
Bc hes a creep
The biggest difference for me is in Synder's cut, Blackpink's "If It's Your Last" was not playing by the time Bruce meets Berry at his hideout.
Thank lawd. No one needs that garbage.
@@knightenchanter7908 Yeah I am not being racist or anything but K Pop is sometimes garbage.
tbh as someone who enjoys k-pop (not a stan), i was real thankful that wasn't in Synder's version. it seemed like YG Entertainment (The company in charge of Blackpink) paid a lot of money to get it in a scene where it was irrelevant and not needed, even to the point Barry talks about the song.
They didn't cut Whedon's scenes for ZSJL, they cut out Zack's scenes for the Josstice League
The line about Clark smelling good actually makes sense since pregnant women have a heightened sense of smell
Yeah but still he was dead
@@kyriakoschrist Yeah, he would definitely have coffin stench on him, even if his decay was delayed.
@@6Churches the lovely smell of mahogany
Not sure why my subtitles are different but Lois said "You spoke" and not you smell good, which makes sense since the first thing he said since being resurrected was "This is home"
what study are u getting that from? its not proven seems made up.
Great video. I was wondering what the differences were, but then this video dropped and now I don't have to wonder.
Real quick, you called Cyborg "Barry" during the time-travel bit and you called Deathstroke "Deadshot" at the yacht part.
Ugh my bad, I'm running on fumes. I did two videos today, haha
Such an amazing movie, this is the true snydervision, lemme buy it already and we better be getting more from him without studio interference the man knows what he’s doing
Darkseid : Ready your Hastags we will use the old ways
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
What I loved the most about the Snyder cut was that you got the chance to understand steppenwolf's motivation as well as what the heck the mother boxes were and how they work. In Joss whedon's cut it felt like off we go to stop the bad guy who is evil just for the sake of being evil.
I think that the post-apocalyptic scene is the most intriguing because it lays the potential for an extremely good future plot.
The final Martian Man Hunter Bruce Wayne conversation. As Martian knew that "Lois Lane is the key" and knows a lot more than anyone else. He has a major role in deciding the next stage of the series.
Darksied’s appearances also stole the show with him only being in it for 2 mins.
He was in the entire movie... Just 2 minutes on screen :) what I mean is you feel his presence through the entire thing
@@mullaoslo exactly, they gave him justice .. hopefully they make a second movie.
@@VisceralCarbon we never thought we would even get to see this so we never know I'll be OK with the flash movie bringing the Snyder Cut back into continuity..
Couldn’t agree more
Just like Wonder Woman in Batman v Superman
My Gawd Whedons version was so Disney bright lol.
12:28 I TOTALLY AGREE, THAT SCENE IN THE SNYDER'S CUT WAS BETTER AND MORE BADASS WITH THE MUSIC. Zack's vision is amazing because he actually CARES about this universe and the characters.
I want to see a Knightmare movie. I don't care if the entire movie is Bruce's dream and he wakes up at the end, I want to see it.
Knightmare actually was (maybe is now that Snyder Cut succeeded) a flash forward to either Justice League 2 or 3. Batman was basically piecing together what would happen if Lois died during their war with Darkseid. Namely that he'd have to join forces with not only old friends, but old enemies.
@k-one: How about no.
it is revealed that Calvin Swanwick is the martian manhunter. He now has his own theme song "He was an alien all along" ( with Agatha harkness tune)
Hasn't it been a theory since Man of Steel?
@@fahadus yes that's what I heard. Now that it is confirmed it is time for manhunter's own themesong
This theory was confirmed by Snyder long ago.
Plus he looks cool.
Also can you give me a link to his theme?
@@PrechtGaebolgHades what theme? Agatha harkness theme sir?
Ahem! Sir...it’s “Deathstroke” not “Deadshot”
Thank Fricking Christ I am not the only person who noticed this. Deadshot is diet Deathstroke and everyone knows it.
He also pronounced Themyscira so wrong. He said Theramisia...
i just remember him from the tv show arrow he is slade wilson
🙌🏽
He also called them Mother Stones. Clearly he’s just reading what other people wrote for him. He never saw the films.
Lois Is Pregnant. You can see when Bruce and Clark was talking near the house in the ending and Bruce Says “ Congratulations “ and a changed happen there aswell with Lois Holding a Baby Carrier.
How does a partly Kryptonian fetus work? Like, won't it hurt Lois?
@@cannibalbunnygirl maybe that's what kills her, like the original comic book story for the birth of Homelander's son in The Boys
@@Juandro97 cool, I've not read much Superman if I'm honest. Thanks for the info 👍
@@cannibalbunnygirl kryptonians are not inherently strong like Viltrumites, a kryptonian is as stong as they are because of sunlight and earth's atmosphere.... as a fetus i guess superman's son would be as delicate as a human baby
@@Kitchen6419
Aah! I see. Thank you 😊
19:28 That's Deathstroke not "Deadshot"
That’s what I came to the comments for!
8:11 "queen hippo-light-ah"
But in all seriousness what an amazing piece of work this video was, thanks for combing through all the footage to archive the differences and you deserve all the kudos!
Everything about the Zack Snyder cut was my favorite
It was the greatest thing I’ve ever seen
@@josh.y same
It's weird that you describe scenes from Josstice league as being discarded or thrown away by Zack Snyder, when in reality, they were inserted by Joss. Zack didn't throw anything away because he never saw that version haha
9:25 Ares in the Snyder cut is like when Makarov shows up in the Remastered Modern Warfare
The Snyder Cut made me really enjoy Flash as a character. That opening sequence of him saving the girl in the car crash and having forethought to snag the hot dog for the pups was brilliant. It made me actually want more from Ezra Miller. Whedon's cut made me truly hate the Flash with his snarkiness and awkward behavior. (I think he's a Marvel fan.) This was the Justice League we should have been given, but, understanding the circumstances behind it, I embrace its much anticipated 5-year delay into pop culture, much like Marvel's Blip. Truly a work of art that paid great homage to such great characters.
They made Barry look like he knew what he was doing, which is very important considering he literally should know what he’s doing given his abilities
The girl is actually Iris West, his future love interest. Also becomes a speedster in one multiverse I think
@@sharinngan5084He shows us that he knows how to decellerate fast enough to avoid infinite mass crashing everytime single he trips ;D
But I missed saying him he doesnt know how to fight, instead he is only pushing people.
Why is no one taking about the fact that Ryan Choi is the alter ego of one of the versions of the Atom? I hope that, if they go on with this universe, they introduce him as the superhero he becomes.
I seen 4 comments b4 yours saying same thing
or maybe we might get to see a standalone movies about Atom's backstory and how he got his power
Zack Snyder set up so many characters with this movie alone. Atom, Martian Manhunter, New Gods, Granny Goodness secret invasion, Flash, Cyborg, Aquaman, Batman vs Deathstroke, Legion of doom etc. We would have gotten Shazam, Green Lantern, Hawkman and hawkgirl etc in Justice League 2.
The Flash reversing time with that amazing soundtrack was insane!
They should do this more often, give the same script to 2 directors and see who comes up with the better movie
Its like a deathmatch, but instead of staking your life, you stake careers
and wasting people's money? no thanks. give us what we deserve and stop wasting our time and money.
I'm so glad they gave Cyborg the screentime he deserves in the Snyder Cut.
Anyone tired of "The Amazonian Music" coming out of nowhere everytime Diana appears in a battle? I thought she carries a speaker everywhere she goes and does the humming herself....
Lol not at all, best shit that improved wonder woman in the snyder cut
I liked it, but you are right, I was starting to laugh every time that I heard that AAaaaAAHHHH!!!
@@Psycamore that’s the spirit!
The song jumped at me and broke my concentration. I don't think it worked.
Yeah I prefer the badass Wonder Woman theme but I get it Themyscira and all that.
The Flash missed his chance of jump starting the cube to resurrect Superman so he turned back time a little to hit that precise moment. Also Flash phasing through the blast wave at the end so he didn't, that was really epic. Small details that really respects the characters and their super powers.
Zack Snyder is love, Zack Snyder is life.
How did he miss his chance to jumpstart the cube?
@@Xfactories I might be wrong but the mother box hit the water, cyborg said it should be as soon as it hit the water but Barry was late so he out ran time a little and broke his rule to hit that precious moment. Same thing happened on a larger scale at the end, Barry got hit and missed his shot and boxes synced up so he out ran time again to the point where he could give that electrical charge that was needed for cyborg to enter his mind in the mother boxes.
@@MeeranArshad No, that's in the Whedon version only.. In the Snyder cut, the box is intended to come back out of the water to show that he is changing time with his speed (even if only just a little). Plus he touches it before it hits. This sets up the bigger time change for the finale.
@@Xfactories that's interesting. Cause I believed that, that moment was created to show how Berry stays precious even after making mistake. But the box bouncing back out of the water wasnt really in the Snyder's Cut, it was literally showing the time rewind itself as Berry breaks the light barrier hence him out running that missed moment to the point hitting the box at a perfect time. But you could be right as well 😊
All and all Snyder made Berry what he should be as Flash, love it
I dunno but to be honest.... The movie gives me goosebump, each scene has a perfectly made background music with a very dark yet perfect frame by frame movie scene... Every single scene is like perfected.... And every character is shown an importance that shows how much respect is done to the original dc comics ... Warner bros should drop justice league ... Thats my conclusion... Movie is a 10/10
The head banging cut was awesome!
Lol to the part where Louis says “you smell good”
The man has been dead for days... 🤣👍🏼
15:21 isn't the hand trace on the capsule from MoS, when Clark 1st entered the spaceship?
@ThinkStory The island where Diana is from is Themyscira not Theramysia. But there is a Greek island called Therasia. Also, at the end, Batman lies about Harley Quinn's death. He just said that because he wanted to upset him. That's why Joker's hand stops trembling after a little while while also saying "You're good". Meaning that Batman got what he wanted by making him show his feelings for her by losing it psychologically which we can see that from his trembling. Batman wanted to hurt him using someone who he loved with his own crazy and twisted way and he did.
Ya almost got me there.... *weird laughs
@@mob19001 If you're referring at Harley Quinn's death, according to Snyder she was going to die in the JL2 alongside Aquaman, Lois and Diana and almost everybody were going to die by Superman influenced by Darkseid and all the things Cyborg saw at a vision. If you're referring to something else, I request elaboration.
Great review! The Synders cut is beyond a great movie, I would have to rank it up there with Logan, and Endgame. We all need to appreciate the work the people did in demanding this movie. What I don't understand why they didn't go with this one, and technically this was the orginal cut, I am guessing haters....FOR AUTUMN!
Endgame? No no no lol I'd say Logan and The Avengers or Civil War or Infinity War but not the mess that was Endgame
@@kendallrivers1119 respect, you are entitled to your opinion, and those movies you mentioned are great to, having a movie with Iron Man and Black Widow sacrificing for the human race in the same movie has to say something. Watch "NEW Study Reveals Why Avengers Endgame Is The GREATEST Superhero Movie of ALL TIME" on RUclips
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Missed a few things, like when Cyborg saw his family, it was the box telling him to give up as mentioned earlier when discussing him splitting it back up. Overall, good analysis.
Lois Lane says “you spoke” in ZSJL not “you smell good” like in Josstice League
Whedon is a creep
@@davidaaronartist Whedon is a TV Director. He had no business touching this movie.
16:18 “you smell good” was a Josstice League ADR. in the snyder cut, lois says “you spoke,” meaning that this is the first time he’s spoken since being resurrected.
in the whedon cut, he speaks in the fight against the league, rendering the line a continuity error.
so whedon’s bright idea was to change “you spoke” into
*“you smell good”*
Is that what she said.......?
@@andrewsidelo8221 she says “you spoke” in ZSJL and “you smell good” in Josstice. just look at the subtitles for those films
What I think is funny is that the same exact music sting plays every time Wonder Woman does anything
I will not lie, I found it very repetitive and irritant
@@VideosGalacticos To be fair yes it can seem grating. But in contrast, whenever anyone specific was doing something, they had their own music.
Even Evil Superman has his own music.
@@mounne13 @Dope92 I agree, I think the soundtrack was really exaggerated but it is really cool. However, even a good song can get bad if used at the wrong times. Imagine if every time Darth Vader appears Play Imperial March, it would make the music sickening. My opinion
BRUH. I agree. That fricken guitar riff is just laughable
Wonder Woman: *does anything*
The music: aaAAAaaAAaAAaaaaaAAAAaaAaAaaa
This movie probably has the best element bending we'll ever see in live action.
It was average!
@@dance3819 your opinion
@@dance3819 still a lot better than what we got in The Last Airbender.
I swear whedon is a mole for marvel trying to eff up DC JL because no way in hell whedon saw his JL finished version and thought ‘yeah this is great, audiences will love this’. Thank god for synder.
Try cutting this movie into 2 hours like Whedon did and then talk shit about him, Snyder had the luxury of not having it in cinema, so he didnt have to lower the runtime, maybe people need to remember how much more responsibility Whedon had, where as JL had the luxury of being 4 hours and being digital only movie.
@@Glade4 Zack synder cut in 2 hours will still be better that parody of crap whedon did. Everything about it is crap. Simple. Only losers defend that crap.
Well Whedon wasn’t associated with marvel at the time as he stepped down after age of ultron. WB asked Whedon to work on the Snyder Cut.
If anything, it’s once again WB’s fault
Whedon is a trojan
I’m not the biggest Barry Allen fan, but the scene of him running back in time...AND saving Iris....phenomenal. Absolutely stunning, darling.
The Iris scene set the tone of the whole movie for me, I knew then it was going to be made with care and thoughtfulness to the characters ..
Flash running back in time scene is better than all of the CW Flash. I hate myself for still watching that show.
@@yourenotrelatable I say the same thing, but I watched it because I wanted to know what was happening in the crossovers. They sort of all fall in line, but Arrow was my favorite and now i prefer Legends of Tomorrow. As far as the CW shows are concerned. Are there better shows?
love your work, but lol mother stones hahahahah 1:20