@@grandreefer Well, since June 2021, when I proposed a large-scale thargoid raid to Bruce G, I proposed removing ax limits and expanding the range of the scanner, the raid thing happened, now the limit ax, the scanner and meta module updates are missing, which comes with the Boragines combat, without guardian weapons
There is a new thread where they are taking feedback on the Thargoid war and in the beginning it was explicitly stated that they are aware of people being unhappy with the Xeno-Scanner range.
@@Kissamiess it is still possible to use, even with the 100% hostile bugs. You just have to tank an entire shield drain attack, which usually gives you just enough time to get a scan in. Still think a 1km ranged scanner, even 750m, would still be balanced.
@@sgt.squirtle2528 Ah, but the interceptors don't start throwing lightning attacks before losing the first heart. If you have such weapons that you need a scan to take any hearts, you can't get to that point. If you can take hearts without scan, why bother intentionally tanking lightning? There are few scenarios I can imagine, but they are pretty conditional.
Pretty sure it’s referring to the overall limit of four and not just the ax weapons. Fdev is usually pretty cryptic about this stuff but the limit was first applied across all those weapon types so I imagine this will increase the limit across all.
Why not just have 1 module that removes the limit entirely... did they really need to make different sizes for additional hard points? I think the biggest part of this that bothers me is that I still can't set up my type 10 with a full outfit of ax weapons
@@thetritiumdepot9270 difficulty is fine. It's how shallowly arbitrary the AX weapons cap is. Why have an in game lore, purposely designed anti bug ship in the game like the T-10 when you can't have anymore firepower than a medium ship? > The Alliance commissioned Lakon to build the Type-10 to combat the escalating Thargoid threat following a series of attacks against Stations in the Pleiades Nebula. Announced on December 17, 3303, Lakon committed to an aggressive production schedule that delivered the Type-10 in volume to retailers the following week.[1] Lakon intended the Type-10 to be "particularly effective in combat situations".[2]
Maybe you can install two or more of these internal modules to increase the total weapon amount, at the cost of module slots available for HRPs and MRPs. Who knows at this point 🤷
Time for the commanders who participated on the "get Azimuth a megaship" CG to sue Azimuth because there never was one deployed. And we might have to dig up and reuse the "you lost a megaship?" jokes we used for the Alexandria.
Stop the hate train guys this module is just announced please just wait till its launched then we can try and see if they allow only increase in human weapons or all (guardian too) how big the moduel size will be 8 (hell no) maybe 5 or 6 and its good. its for balancing things you just want fire power without any draw backs, ys its fun but not good for game
yes stop being such a hater and just accept what other people tell you to think, don't you understand that in this day and age your not allowed to have your own opinion
The thing is that the restriction of guardian weapons is fine and makes sense balance(especially PVP) wise and even internal lore wise. Big alien weapons are difficult for the ships to handle, alright fine. The AX restriction is an entirely arbitrary kneecapping that heavily restricts the larger ships. There's a reason so many kraits and alliance ships are at the front and less large ships. Let alone T-10s, the ship literally designed to fight bugs but is comparatively useless in actual gameplay.
human ax weapons should have no limit no extra module required. since after all you can equip a type 10 with all advanced multi cannons and synth ax ammo and have 9 ax weapons
It's a pretty smart solution to the 4-weapon limit. Unlimited high-powered AX weapons would have us mowing down the Medusa and Hydra in their thousands, and that would have made the end-game baddies a trivial joke. This way we can build a ship bristling with guns but vulnerable to damage, or a more tanky build which takes longer to kill enemies. It also opens the door to even more ship build theorising and testing.
No, medusas and hydras would still be very hard. Right now, the greatest limiting factors are aiming accuracy, heatsink count, and convergence. Just 3 medium gauss is enough to kill any interceptor, if carrying 4x med gauss you need to split them into fire groups to about overheating. More AX weapons would help out in AXCZs almost exclusively where scouts would stop being such a pain, or some meme build where a Corvette or something is covered in Shard cannons.
It's Frontier's policy, (almost) nothing is free, so most likely it will probably cost our time (more grind). I assume in this case module will be unlockable (or even buyable) via tech brokers, probably only azimuth one's.
@@SageKing09816 there is sense in the restrictions on the extremely powerful guardian weapons. The limits on human made ax weaponry is entirely arbitrary, they're not fundamentally different from standard human weaponry other than the specially coated anti xeno ammunition.
The ones whine about "Kickstarter promises" are the really annoying ones. Them and the dead-ender "konsole-kiddies" that STILL drone on about being "left behind." Obsidian Ant's comment section is a home for this such wailing, sad to see it find its way here.
WE keep grinding all the time to get things together cuz of that there is no time to enjoy a lot in the game. Also thats why this game doesnt get more players. I barely see a real person while flying arround.
Such a crappy move, I can understand doing the module for 6 guardian weapons but not for human AX. The more this war goes on, the more we are sure FDev wants the game to die.
The module theme doesn't make sense for a game unless you look at the games corporations as an actual corporation, they want to make money that's why they didn't just give us a single module to unlock all the hard points
I for one will welcome our Type 10 turreted AX overlords
Now we just need a long range scanner so the Enhanced AX weapons become usable against interceptors.
I thought we already saw hints of this coming somewhere. Also makes sense that we would get a better one. Think we just need to wait a bit longer.
@@grandreefer Well, since June 2021, when I proposed a large-scale thargoid raid to Bruce G, I proposed removing ax limits and expanding the range of the scanner, the raid thing happened, now the limit ax, the scanner and meta module updates are missing, which comes with the Boragines combat, without guardian weapons
There is a new thread where they are taking feedback on the Thargoid war and in the beginning it was explicitly stated that they are aware of people being unhappy with the Xeno-Scanner range.
@@Kissamiess it is still possible to use, even with the 100% hostile bugs. You just have to tank an entire shield drain attack, which usually gives you just enough time to get a scan in.
Still think a 1km ranged scanner, even 750m, would still be balanced.
@@sgt.squirtle2528 Ah, but the interceptors don't start throwing lightning attacks before losing the first heart. If you have such weapons that you need a scan to take any hearts, you can't get to that point. If you can take hearts without scan, why bother intentionally tanking lightning? There are few scenarios I can imagine, but they are pretty conditional.
"Like McThargoids burgers, stabilizers only come in Medium and Large sizes -"
Oh the cheek. The cheek!
I’m glad the limit will be removed. Only the “solution” doesn’t make sense for human AX weapons.
Pretty sure it’s referring to the overall limit of four and not just the ax weapons. Fdev is usually pretty cryptic about this stuff but the limit was first applied across all those weapon types so I imagine this will increase the limit across all.
The limit is not removed, just the goalpost moved at the expense of losing another module slot
@@dwsnz agreed, losing an internal slot is not good news. They should just increase the cap!
ready for the fed gunship dakka boat
That's mine, I got 4x modshards. Great fun, just wish I could carry an AXMC to deal with scouts.
I like the justification, which limited us to use only up to four experimental weapons.
physical stress of experimental weaponry lol
Weapons race. Engineers could create an SLF with a Xeno scanner. It would be fun.
Why not just have 1 module that removes the limit entirely... did they really need to make different sizes for additional hard points? I think the biggest part of this that bothers me is that I still can't set up my type 10 with a full outfit of ax weapons
Saaaammme... the dream will never die.
Frontier logic, why make it easy when difficult also is possible.
@@thetritiumdepot9270 difficulty is fine.
It's how shallowly arbitrary the AX weapons cap is.
Why have an in game lore, purposely designed anti bug ship in the game like the T-10 when you can't have anymore firepower than a medium ship?
> The Alliance commissioned Lakon to build the Type-10 to combat the escalating Thargoid threat following a series of attacks against Stations in the Pleiades Nebula. Announced on December 17, 3303, Lakon committed to an aggressive production schedule that delivered the Type-10 in volume to retailers the following week.[1] Lakon intended the Type-10 to be "particularly effective in combat situations".[2]
@@sgt.squirtle2528 you are so damn right. The T-10 has really much more potentional but fdev doesn't allow it. sad
Maybe you can install two or more of these internal modules to increase the total weapon amount, at the cost of module slots available for HRPs and MRPs. Who knows at this point 🤷
Not very excited about a new module to add 1 or 2 additional ax weapons. Probably wont bother
Time for the commanders who participated on the "get Azimuth a megaship" CG to sue Azimuth because there never was one deployed. And we might have to dig up and reuse the "you lost a megaship?" jokes we used for the Alexandria.
SMOKE SCREEN FOR SALLYS' NEMESIS LOL
Stop the hate train guys this module is just announced please just wait till its launched then we can try and see if they allow only increase in human weapons or all (guardian too) how big the moduel size will be 8 (hell no) maybe 5 or 6 and its good. its for balancing things you just want fire power without any draw backs, ys its fun but not good for game
the same, with what is coming, you will not be able to use the guardian weapons, since the incursions will be in Boraginian systems
yes stop being such a hater and just accept what other people tell you to think, don't you understand that in this day and age your not allowed to have your own opinion
The thing is that the restriction of guardian weapons is fine and makes sense balance(especially PVP) wise and even internal lore wise. Big alien weapons are difficult for the ships to handle, alright fine.
The AX restriction is an entirely arbitrary kneecapping that heavily restricts the larger ships.
There's a reason so many kraits and alliance ships are at the front and less large ships. Let alone T-10s, the ship literally designed to fight bugs but is comparatively useless in actual gameplay.
Such an FDev move
human ax weapons should have no limit no extra module required. since after all you can equip a type 10 with all advanced multi cannons and synth ax ammo and have 9 ax weapons
Baah. Azimuth can go to the devil, & take their new modules with them.
It's a pretty smart solution to the 4-weapon limit. Unlimited high-powered AX weapons would have us mowing down the Medusa and Hydra in their thousands, and that would have made the end-game baddies a trivial joke.
This way we can build a ship bristling with guns but vulnerable to damage, or a more tanky build which takes longer to kill enemies.
It also opens the door to even more ship build theorising and testing.
No, medusas and hydras would still be very hard. Right now, the greatest limiting factors are aiming accuracy, heatsink count, and convergence. Just 3 medium gauss is enough to kill any interceptor, if carrying 4x med gauss you need to split them into fire groups to about overheating.
More AX weapons would help out in AXCZs almost exclusively where scouts would stop being such a pain, or some meme build where a Corvette or something is covered in Shard cannons.
It's Frontier's policy, (almost) nothing is free, so most likely it will probably cost our time (more grind). I assume in this case module will be unlockable (or even buyable) via tech brokers, probably only azimuth one's.
A CG by the sounds of it, “collect materials”.
@@Lurkio-pb6rg in worst case we will have CG first that will only unlock possibility of unlocking or buying it from tech brokers.
This will make anti-xeno combat interesting! Any helping good.
Azimuth setting up franchises and they using the Musashi to do it.
Of course they aren't giving it back
While the megacorps are doing something. I wonder what the ship building corpos are doing?. We need new ships. Better ships.
Problem is, in order to remove the arbitrary limit, you must sacrifice a valuable internal slot. Typical FDERP!
so u just want more fire power without any draw back. Typical hate train passangers
well, without engineering calculations by palin or another ing, it would not be possible to increase that limit
The RP is strong here
@@SageKing09816 I love this game but balancing AX combat by cutting our hamstrings is not fun. These limits are arbitrary lore for lazy balancing.
@@SageKing09816 there is sense in the restrictions on the extremely powerful guardian weapons.
The limits on human made ax weaponry is entirely arbitrary, they're not fundamentally different from standard human weaponry other than the specially coated anti xeno ammunition.
finally some game impacting news
I remember when ED cmdr's weren't such whiners.
The ones whine about "Kickstarter promises" are the really annoying ones. Them and the dead-ender "konsole-kiddies" that STILL drone on about being "left behind."
Obsidian Ant's comment section is a home for this such wailing, sad to see it find its way here.
WE keep grinding all the time to get things together cuz of that there is no time to enjoy a lot in the game. Also thats why this game doesnt get more players. I barely see a real person while flying arround.
Any new or old player (but prefereably new since gives more stuff to do without rush) on Elite want to play togueter like mini crew of 2?
A lot of salty bois in the comments today
The something for nothing crowd is strong.
So I don’t go into maelstroms… yet…
So this doesn’t matter to me, but still cool.
When? When will it be available?
What if they stack?
Hope so. Then we can choose between offence and defence in our builds.
#HamstringBalancing
It's not fun
Such a crappy move, I can understand doing the module for 6 guardian weapons but not for human AX. The more this war goes on, the more we are sure FDev wants the game to die.
You don't like it? Well, you already know that you can leave, another cmdr will take your place
@@1PokerMan smart reply I bet that took a lot of thinking
@Pablo Conter Watch out boys we got a fanboy. Bet your the type to camp a AXCZ with your engineered FDL thinking you're a top ace cmdr.
@@austing8969 That's when his mummy lets him, But he must be an ace cmdr as he has a video of himself killing a Cyclops on RUclips
@@austing8969 a fanboy a fanboy hahaha, how funny, dedicate yourself to something else, by the way, I don't use fdl
The module theme doesn't make sense for a game unless you look at the games corporations as an actual corporation, they want to make money that's why they didn't just give us a single module to unlock all the hard points