Watch the original review here: ruclips.net/video/nn3tPKS-QN8/видео.html We haven't done tutorials like this in absolutely forever. This is targeted at novices who buy the 5600 XT and get confused that their performance is lower than reviews. We've provided a more detailed written guide with a batch file to aid in recovery of a failed flash: www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3550-guide-how-to-flash-amd-gpu-vbios-rx-5600-xt Through Feb. 19, 2020, we're donating 10% of all GN store revenue to wildlife rescue groups in Australia who are working to save animals from bushfires, including Wildlife Rescue South Coast and Adelaide Koala & Wildlife Hospital. If you're buying from us anyway, now's a good time to do so: store.gamersnexus.net/
Steve, I love your informative videos and will remain watching for a long long time, but I think you got this one wrong, or at least are making a mountain out of a mole hill. Buyers that buy "cards" know how to install drivers, update bios's, etc. The one's that don't buy Dell's, and wallmart pc's. What next, criticism for release cards to have new drivers a week after release, because buyers might not know how to update their drivers? I think almost all board partners will just simply use the cooling that they used on the 5700, rather than to retool and develop a new cooler that might cost penny's less to make, because the re-tooling would cost more than the money they would save. As such, any 5700 cooler will work just fine on the new bios 5600xt, so I doubt we will see many cards that don't support the new vbios. The only thing the vendor has to consider before offering the new vbios is the increase in returns because of bad flash's, but they should be able to reflash these cards themselves once returned.
With Windows Subsystem for Linux you, too, can rm -rf / your system. Except it probably doesn't work there, either, as it really hasn't in Linux for like 15 years. Nowadays you need the --no-preserve-root option to really do what the command says.
@@DavidTheGamer27 It's not that, it's because if he tells you to do anything other than install the bios provided by amd they will hold that against him. Yet he is fixing their fuck up. Also, it's not physically possible to help every single rx 5600xt buyer.
@@DavidTheGamer27 i think he is just frustrated by amd's clusterfuck and this is a tutorial that shouldn't have to exist, but it comes across as contempt for the viewers.
@@dondraper4438 Wait… it's not possible to help every single RX5600 purchaser on an individual basis?! I would have never ever suspected that! [/sarcasm] Seriously though, this isn't the first time to me that Steve has come across as disrespectful to his audience. I tell people all the time, there's often a right way and a wrong way to interact with people. This video and Steve's seemingly disdain for his viewers is the wrong way, in my opinion.
I was wondering how many reviewers will actually pull out this exact video about flashing the VBIOS on their RX5600XT if the company they bought it from allows it. I'm pretty sure very very few companies will actually take the time to upload the whole process for their products on their own. So thank you a million guys for uploading that content and i'm pretty sure it will help out a lot of people.
Honest to god, the more this carries on the more I expect to see one of these videos end by cutting to the logo just as Steve starts yelling expletives. Like, "Fuuu..!" *static and modem handshake noise with logo*
@@marceldiezasch6192 Well not excusing AMD but all of the hardware manufacturers end up doing things like these once in a while. But I share the sentiment, get it together *insert brand here*
Yeah, he's right though. WTF is this launch? If you get a card with old BIOS, just return it. Why should I as a customer have to do any of this? Why risk bricking my card? Fuck that.
@@Constantin314 No this a total fuck up by AMD. Enthusiasts like you or me who know what we're doing for countless years it's a doddle. However for Joe Bloggs/John Doe he won't have a clue and probably doesn't come to channels such as these and they are likely the most likely to be buying this tier of card.
@@clansome ^ bingo! This is a VERY good video for someone just starting to learn about computers. Steve took a really difficult process (if you have no clue what your doing) and made it a fairly easy walkthrough. I started out on a Apple II, so I've been into this for a while, but for that 15-16 year old kid building his first tower and has no clue what they are doing it's a great video.
I had a rx 6600 that had the default vbios corrupted and I was stuck using the performance vbios which doesn't have zeroRPM but thanks to this video I was able to reflash it quite easily and got my zerorpm again cheers!. I backed up both of my gpu vbios and saved it in a safe place.
Thanks, Steve. I read the tutorial instead of watching the video, and I think that I was able to resurrect a second-hand mining card that was nonfunctional due to someone installing a weird BIOS on it into an actual functioning card.
@@bradhaines3142 The 9mm Winchester Magnum, which is also known as the 9×29mm, is a centerfire handgun cartridgedeveloped by Winchester in the late 1970s. The cartridge was developed to duplicate the performance of the .357 S&W Magnum in an auto-pistol cartridge.
@@bradhaines3142 In 2003 the gunsmiths and engineers at Smith & Wesson wanted to deliver maximum power for serious handgun hunters. The power they sought required an entirely new frame, the massive "X-Frame™," and was the basis for the new Model S&W500™, the most powerful production revolver in the world. This ushered in the era of the "big gun" and was only the beginning. For ultimate power and velocity there's nothing even close to an X-Frame model handgun. Features • Most powerful production revolver in the world today • Massive .500 S&W Magnum cartridge 2600 ft/lb. muzzle energy • A hunting handgun for any game animal walking • Recoil tamed with effective muzzle compensator • Internal Lock • Ultimate defensive carry and dangerous game backup handgun • Easily removeable muzzle compensator for different recoil reduction effects and to accomodate different types of ammunition • Comes with 2 compensators; 1 for lead bullet and 1 for jacketed bullet ammunition • Muzzle energy capability in excess of 2000 ft/lb. in a 56 oz. package
5600xt owner glaring at the 'Comment' button since they already wrote a lengthy question about how their card is bricked and needs help on how to fix it or what to tell the RMA department, whilst having the video play in background, and before hearing Steve saying "Not my Job." Replays Steve saying "Not my job." Proceeds to hit "comment" button; patiently waits for Steve's assistance.
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This is why i prefer Powercolor cards at the moment. Disregarding any other feature, the dual-bios is incredible if you like fiddling around with the BIOS. A guaranteed backup you can recover from...
Things seem so much better with CPU launches than GPU launches from AMD, aside from the weird marketing department decisions. I hope they can figure out these issues, it's the one thing that seems to be holding them back.
I thought this was a power mod video at first, but honestly this is more important for now. I sure that the "OC" bios for the card's that didn't ship with it and isn't provided by the manufacturer will end up on techpowerup's database eventually. Looking forward to a power mod vid, I'm sure you have one coming.
I flashed my ASRock Challenger 5600XT and it's working great with the new L07 VBIOS. Definitely saw performance gains, adjusted my fan curve and it functions well. Recommended move if you have one of the cards that doesn't have the new BIOS by default.
If your audio solution is not through your display, you may be able to “see” what you are doing as you run the recovery tool through Microsoft narrator. Finally! Being visually impaired pays off!
Great video. Really helpful that you provided lots of recovery steps and a way to test it had applied. Ran the update but wasn't sure if it had applied until I used Furmark, thanks
Omg thank god. I've been ALL over the internet and all these forums and videos have been horribly confusing and not concise whatsoever. My card got shipped to me with a mining bios from Sapphire and here I am having to fix it because they wanna charge me $30 to send it back.
@@Jimster481 yeah it's like people who had a problem with a BIOS update and don't know how to use a 5$ external programmer to flash the motherboard. Dual BIOS was invented for them.
I just bricked my 8970m, Hope I can fix this no matter how I startup (safe boot) or normal everytime blue screen of death. Just make sure its not the wrong bios otherwise u can throw ur card probably away like me.
It is mentioned that if there is no change in performance you may have to reinstall the driver, and that you may even have to DDU it. For anyone wondering DDU is short for Display Driver Uninstaller. A utility that was written to delete all traces of the display drivers, something the normal uninstall procedure won't do. This allows the driver installation do a completely clean installation which can sometimes clear up strange behavior. DDU can be downloaded from several sites, but personally I always go to guru3d.com, though I guess Wagnardsoft might be the official home for this utility as it is written by Ghislain Harvey aka Wagnard on the Guru3D forums.
Considering I haven’t used a desktop dedicated gpu in like 15 years, this really is helpful for more than just 5600 buyers/computer novices as just a handy reminder.
"DIY" What a grand and intoxicating innocence. You would , at the very least , need to summon a Marid level Djinn to frankenstitch the fucking thing for you.
Super useful and important info to get out there. But jesus christ as someone who didnt need it also incredibly boring. Good on you Steve for making a video that might not get a ton of views but will undoubtedly help a ton of people, and sorry for the mixed messages lol.
Back in the earlier days, you could recover a bricked card on iGPU by just unplugging the power connections to the card and turning on the PC, the card would be recognized enough in windows to reflash the BIOS but it doesn't try to use it as a display output. I wonder if the same is the case here
Great, now take it apart and make Buildzoid do a breakdown of the board. I'm sure yet another navi breakdown is just what he was planning for this week. Kek.
With your recovery script that may need to be run blind you should probably set it up to run as administrator beforehand. I'm pretty sure a lot of batch scripts require that and it would cause problems if trying to run it blind.
I'm surprised that the newly flashed BIOS is working without re-installing the drivers while with the 5700xt almost every RUclipsr with graphic card boxes in the background stated that you should reinstall drivers when you switch from the OC bios to the quiet one to make it work.
Somehow I got my hand in a jar. Just seems the whole 5600XT is special. If AMD knew Nvidia would do what they did, why not release the performance from day one, instead of causing everyone run around like a chicken with head cut off. It is still interesting it has that much power hidden to begin with.
I even believe having read somewhere about the RX 5000 series having the architecture to support Ray Tracing (DXR) but not implementing it in their drivers since there aren't as many games yet that utilize the proper form of DXR support , i.e. Global Illumination.
They crippled the card instead of releasing it at its real baseline performance so that people would buy the remaining stock of 5700 non-XT cards for more money. That's how I see it, anyway. It honestly feels like a scam that AMD had to low-key admit they were pulling when the 2060 dropped in price and they just magically pulled +10% or so performance out of nowhere. Like, what happened AMD, you lose that 10% in the couch cushions somewhere and only just now find it?
I flashed a 5700 red dragon with the XT red dragon bios, I had to force it as the subsystem IDs were a mismatch. Mine ended in 2399, and the XT bios ended in 2398. The card is stable with the new bios, although performance increase was kinda low, about 4% on synthetic benchmarks. That being said I can now OC it much higher because I have the XT power limits. Auto OCing via adrenalin 2020 got me over 2000mhz core and performance got a nice bump with temps still being well within safe bounds. A warning though. I can't speak for other cards, but the PowerColor red dragon 5700 will lock your bios after you flash it once. I can no longer flash it back to the original 5700, even with the force command, I get a "bios was not erased" error. And it looks like I'm not the only one with this problem on this specific card. The card is 100% stable and works great, but just keep that in mind. I still have the dual bios switch with the other one being the 5700 silent bios, so I'm safe either way.
I'm wondering if he confused the numbers. PowerColor (which he mentions), has a 5600 XT BIOS flash but not a 5700 XT. All that's for DL for the 5700 XT Red Devil are the outdated 19.8.1 drivers for Win 10 and 7 and the RGB utility.
Instructions unclear, I've dropped my pants in front of this card five times now, still not getting the performance improvement. Should I try a trench coat instead?
TIP if you brick your card by a VBIOS mistake with no switch just get a computer with onboard grathics boot with onboard grathics with card installed and it should allow you to Flash, found this out a few years ago when a freind of mine bricked his 280x.
Damn talk about being wary of your trusted company to release a final product with no errors holy crap im sorta on the fence about this mishap looks like my next card will be from a rival company .
As long as you have a card by anyone but MSI, they will give you the original BIOS. At MSI they tell you to pound sand, even when you ask nicely or even if you cite their own policy back to them in a follow up email.
Am I wrong to think that this whole thing is basically a marketing tactic? I'm not saying that it is bad, in fact it is pretty smart if it successfully drives sales. What I am really wondering here is if this is a one time performance bump or has actual potential for future performance bumps that would be significant.
"Some cards will have that VBIOS available, with some partners splitting their 5600XT into two SKUs." ...So it sounds like the performance VBIOS _will_ be available, you just have to reflash the subpar SKU's BIOS with the BIOS from the performance SKU. Basically, some AMD board partners want an extra $20-40 or whatever premium they're charging for a quick software patch to let you get all the performance out of your own hardware that you paid for. I'm not saying they're scamming people, but...
it's not necessarily the exact same model than the non-OC. Also if they are smart for their business, they'll make the OC VBIOS not compatible with the non-OC model.
@@luigius8590 Because 1. the old BIOS sets lower power limits, which holds you back, and 2. as a matter of principle I shouldn't have to overclock just to get the expected capable performance out of a product. It should perform at what it's expected to be capable of out of the box, and overclocking should be to squeeze extra bonus performance that may or may not be available beyond expectations, depending on silicon lottery and other luck factors.
@@wasd____ Well, you get what you pay for, the OC is just a bonus. The goal of AMD was to have a 150W card with a certain TDP. The new VBIOS is not suited for every card and it's like the Polaris RX500 series. You never get the ultimate perf with a chip without tweaking it. Just compare that to CPUs: unlocked CPU factory presets are rarely near their maximum, and locked CPUs or inferior binned chips are artificially cut to fit a category where they match the spec. All electronic manufacturers do that, even for discrete components. If an AOP or a triode matches the specs but fails to obtain them at a certain voltage or a certain range of temperature, the component is downclassed.
@@PainterVierax "Well, you get what you pay for" That's my point: you SHOULD get what you pay for. But if you got the old BIOS, you're not; the fact that a new BIOS was just magically pulled out when it suited AMD and provides an instant 10% increase on the exact same cards shows that you're getting roughly 10% less than what you paid for, and that this was deliberate. Releasing a new BIOS shows that this wasn't about binning - if that BIOS is fine for every card in a given SKU, which seems to be the case for many SKUs, then obviously they figure every card can handle it. What they know every card can handle should have been the baseline. Instead their baseline was an artificial cap that cheated people out of about 10% in order to induce people to buy more expensive cards.
“Sometimes great possibilities are right in front of us but we don't see them because we choose not to. I think that we need to be open to exploring something new.” - Barry Allen "The Flash"
Just checked their site and they've replaced the article where the BIOS update was available with completely different content [that present these cards as ready-out-of-box].
Why do you act like a BIOS update is such a problem? You don't do that for mainboards at all. I am actually shocked about the deliberate bad mothing. Hope NVidia pays well when you sell your integrity.
I’ve seen video cards with dual/triple BIOS acting funny if you flip a BIOS with the system running. While they should not touch the BIOS after the card is booted and the OS has taken control of it, be aware this may not be standard for every manufacturer, so avoid flipping a BIOS with the system running as much as you can.
Make sure to close out of any monitoring programs like MSI Afterburner, HWINFO, etc. before flashing. I don't see the point of flashing the BIOS when you can use MorePowerTool to achieve the same thing without the risk of bricking your GPU.
This reminds me of way back when AMD allowed partners to upgrade standard 7950 to 7950 boost. Some vendors released tools to let you do the upgrades. That gave nowhere near the performance bump that this does though.
It is possible to just use the bios from another card It should work fine even if the board partners dont release it. Ive done this many times with older cards and even if they had different memory it still worked ok.
ye will work alot of times but not always and can cause some strange behavior depending on how different the bios is. definitely something that should be done with caution
I love AMD but this should be treated as a deceptive market practice in all honesty. You can't underdeliver to some customers while being consciously aware of it.
IMO, relying on a batch file alone is bad idea.... You should just keep your old GPU around and put it together with your new one if something goes wrong.. For backup, you can also enable (and test beforehand) Remote Desktop, and if you brick it, connect via RDP to reflash it... You don't need an additional PC, even phones now have RD Client application...
Was it just me or did Steve seem particularly annoyed with the viewers today? He kind of seemed to have a, "go away you peasants, don't you dare ever try to talk to me or interact with me because I'm better than you" vibe going on today.
When I run the AMDVBios executable, my PC hard freezes. It happens as soon as I click Run as Administrator, just an instant freeze that I have to use the power supply switch to clear.
i dont think we can blame amd for creating 2 cards with the same name, thats down to the board partners taking advantage of the fact amd gave customers more for their money. i for 1 will be avoiding any board partner that takes advantage of this to charge more for the same thing. not making the updated bios available but charging more for an oc card which is really the same as stock from others is a real shitty move.
mmmmmmm best to get the second batch of these cards, I almost preorder one. How can you tell if the one you purchase is the older cards will the sellers pull these cards off their listings
just curious, if buying this new card,,, what's the first thing to do Update vBios > update adrenaline driver Or Update Adrenaline and then update the VBios
Watch the original review here: ruclips.net/video/nn3tPKS-QN8/видео.html
We haven't done tutorials like this in absolutely forever. This is targeted at novices who buy the 5600 XT and get confused that their performance is lower than reviews. We've provided a more detailed written guide with a batch file to aid in recovery of a failed flash: www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3550-guide-how-to-flash-amd-gpu-vbios-rx-5600-xt
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Love the RAM cup with the screwdrivers in it
Steve, I love your informative videos and will remain watching for a long long time, but I think you got this one wrong, or at least are making a mountain out of a mole hill. Buyers that buy "cards" know how to install drivers, update bios's, etc. The one's that don't buy Dell's, and wallmart pc's. What next, criticism for release cards to have new drivers a week after release, because buyers might not know how to update their drivers? I think almost all board partners will just simply use the cooling that they used on the 5700, rather than to retool and develop a new cooler that might cost penny's less to make, because the re-tooling would cost more than the money they would save. As such, any 5700 cooler will work just fine on the new bios 5600xt, so I doubt we will see many cards that don't support the new vbios. The only thing the vendor has to consider before offering the new vbios is the increase in returns because of bad flash's, but they should be able to reflash these cards themselves once returned.
but Steve I expect you to come here & fix any problems I have!
c'mon steve. just tell me what vbios i should use! just do it!!! now!
The AMDVBFlash Download link doesn't work, please fix it
I only flash BIOS's during really heavy storms to get blessings from the thunder gods.
*I also like to live dangerously*
Amon Amarth intensifies
@Pablitow ¿ lol smart🤣
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LMAO bro, that's amazing :v
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steve pls xfx is listening
Here in Spain xfx navi make good sales people say good opinions ,price is under 400
Some people dont care what he talk about xfx
"don't put any spaces just for safety"
"Program Files"
instructions unclear, rm -rf'd the entire system
Aint that a Linux joke?
format C: /x /F
Y
With Windows Subsystem for Linux you, too, can rm -rf / your system. Except it probably doesn't work there, either, as it really hasn't in Linux for like 15 years. Nowadays you need the --no-preserve-root option to really do what the command says.
rm -rf /* works as well, without the --no-preserve-root
@@MGThePro rm -rf /**
deletes even more, but neither will actually delete everything
literally everyone: hi Steve what a pleasure to meet y...
Steve: I'M NOT HELPING YOU.
also Steve: here's exhaustive step-by-step instructions with multiple rollback options and supporting CMD scripts
Steve really did seem to not like his viewers in this video.
@@DavidTheGamer27 It's not that, it's because if he tells you to do anything other than install the bios provided by amd they will hold that against him. Yet he is fixing their fuck up.
Also, it's not physically possible to help every single rx 5600xt buyer.
@@DavidTheGamer27 i think he is just frustrated by amd's clusterfuck and this is a tutorial that shouldn't have to exist, but it comes across as contempt for the viewers.
@@dondraper4438 Wait… it's not possible to help every single RX5600 purchaser on an individual basis?! I would have never ever suspected that! [/sarcasm]
Seriously though, this isn't the first time to me that Steve has come across as disrespectful to his audience. I tell people all the time, there's often a right way and a wrong way to interact with people. This video and Steve's seemingly disdain for his viewers is the wrong way, in my opinion.
I was wondering how many reviewers will actually pull out this exact video about flashing the VBIOS on their RX5600XT if the company they bought it from allows it.
I'm pretty sure very very few companies will actually take the time to upload the whole process for their products on their own.
So thank you a million guys for uploading that content and i'm pretty sure it will help out a lot of people.
Power Color instructions included with the vBIOS include a link to a Tom's Hardware video on how to make a USB bootable DOS disk using Rufus.
Honest to god, the more this carries on the more I expect to see one of these videos end by cutting to the logo just as Steve starts yelling expletives. Like, "Fuuu..!" *static and modem handshake noise with logo*
“GN IT Help Desk” sounds like an awesome patreon tier 😂😂😂
just flashed the rx 5700 xt bios on my rx 5700 non xt card using your tutorial, it really helped me
"I am not an IT desk" xD
The customer isn't an IT desk either.
I don't know how anyone would think that this is a reasonable business practice. Get your shit together, AMD.
@@marceldiezasch6192 Well not excusing AMD but all of the hardware manufacturers end up doing things like these once in a while. But I share the sentiment, get it together *insert brand here*
Did you turn it off and turn it back on again?
@@marceldiezasch6192 once they are moving to streaming service then the customer doesn't need to do this anymore :D happy ?
@@WutipongWongsakuldej not everybody wants a streaming service id rather own my hardware
"Not my Job" xD
Yeah, he's right though. WTF is this launch?
If you get a card with old BIOS, just return it. Why should I as a customer have to do any of this? Why risk bricking my card? Fuck that.
It's actually not that hard to flash but whatever..
Customer support guys in board partner companies: "He tuk our jerb"
@@Constantin314 No this a total fuck up by AMD. Enthusiasts like you or me who know what we're doing for countless years it's a doddle. However for Joe Bloggs/John Doe he won't have a clue and probably doesn't come to channels such as these and they are likely the most likely to be buying this tier of card.
@@clansome ^ bingo! This is a VERY good video for someone just starting to learn about computers. Steve took a really difficult process (if you have no clue what your doing) and made it a fairly easy walkthrough. I started out on a Apple II, so I've been into this for a while, but for that 15-16 year old kid building his first tower and has no clue what they are doing it's a great video.
I had a rx 6600 that had the default vbios corrupted and I was stuck using the performance vbios which doesn't have zeroRPM but thanks to this video I was able to reflash it quite easily and got my zerorpm again cheers!. I backed up both of my gpu vbios and saved it in a safe place.
Always going above and beyond even though GN isn't a pc help desk.
Defo buy a dual bios card if choosing this gpu
at this point youre more helpful then any company ever could or would be willing to be
Will you help me with other aspects of my life?
Thanks, Steve. I read the tutorial instead of watching the video, and I think that I was able to resurrect a second-hand mining card that was nonfunctional due to someone installing a weird BIOS on it into an actual functioning card.
When your 9mm new gun suddenly can shoot magnum ;)
@@bradhaines3142 The 9mm Winchester Magnum, which is also known as the 9×29mm, is a centerfire handgun cartridgedeveloped by Winchester in the late 1970s. The cartridge was developed to duplicate the performance of the .357 S&W Magnum in an auto-pistol cartridge.
@@bradhaines3142 hell there's .50 cal magnum HANDguns.
@@bradhaines3142 yes the S&W 500 Magnum has a 4" barrel snub nose
@@bradhaines3142 In 2003 the gunsmiths and engineers at Smith & Wesson wanted to deliver maximum power for serious handgun hunters. The power they sought required an entirely new frame, the massive "X-Frame™," and was the basis for the new Model S&W500™, the most powerful production revolver in the world. This ushered in the era of the "big gun" and was only the beginning. For ultimate power and velocity there's nothing even close to an X-Frame model handgun.
Features
• Most powerful production revolver in the world today
• Massive .500 S&W Magnum cartridge 2600 ft/lb. muzzle energy
• A hunting handgun for any game animal walking
• Recoil tamed with effective muzzle compensator
• Internal Lock
• Ultimate defensive carry and dangerous game backup handgun
• Easily removeable muzzle compensator for different recoil reduction effects and to accomodate different types of ammunition
• Comes with 2 compensators; 1 for lead bullet and 1 for jacketed bullet ammunition
• Muzzle energy capability in excess of 2000 ft/lb. in a 56 oz. package
@@bradhaines3142 my personal favorite is the 7mm Remington magnum. Personally Im more accurate with those then a 30-06.
OMG you are the best.
I managed to flash my rx 480 back :)))
you are a god
WHat waw your issue exactly? Your GPU stopped being detected by windows?
@@adesheddie1 I flashed my card and bricked it.
Where did you find the bios? I need for my rx 560x
@@adesheddie1 you can find any bios on techpowerup
just search for rx 560x bios
5600xt owner glaring at the 'Comment' button since they already wrote a lengthy question about how their card is bricked and needs help on how to fix it or what to tell the RMA department, whilst having the video play in background, and before hearing Steve saying "Not my Job."
Replays Steve saying "Not my job."
Proceeds to hit "comment" button; patiently waits for Steve's assistance.
"One hour here is 7 years on earth. "
"Good , then we wait here for Steve's assistance."
Итак, теперь ты лучше понимаешь как хорошо отрабатывает микрофон на шумном фоне. Спасибо за увлекательный материал, желаю - здоровья, и мира.
П.С. трэк бомбезный 🙂
Just want to say thanks for making a guide on this. I’m shooting for grabbing one in the next month or so and this eases my mind a lot. Thanks again!!
Awesome channel more addictive than any drug the tech info is beyond helpful
Just watched the old "We talk PSU with Johnny Guru" video. What ended up happening with the PSU testing. Really looking forward to it =)
This is why i prefer Powercolor cards at the moment. Disregarding any other feature, the dual-bios is incredible if you like fiddling around with the BIOS. A guaranteed backup you can recover from...
Things seem so much better with CPU launches than GPU launches from AMD, aside from the weird marketing department decisions. I hope they can figure out these issues, it's the one thing that seems to be holding them back.
I thought this was a power mod video at first, but honestly this is more important for now. I sure that the "OC" bios for the card's that didn't ship with it and isn't provided by the manufacturer will end up on techpowerup's database eventually. Looking forward to a power mod vid, I'm sure you have one coming.
GN out there providing insane support to the gaming community. Thank you.
I flashed my ASRock Challenger 5600XT and it's working great with the new L07 VBIOS. Definitely saw performance gains, adjusted my fan curve and it functions well. Recommended move if you have one of the cards that doesn't have the new BIOS by default.
Doing the Lord's work as always
Thanks for the video. Putting shortcut on desktop to recover blind - cool .
If your audio solution is not through your display, you may be able to “see” what you are doing as you run the recovery tool through Microsoft narrator. Finally! Being visually impaired pays off!
Great video. Really helpful that you provided lots of recovery steps and a way to test it had applied. Ran the update but wasn't sure if it had applied until I used Furmark, thanks
Omg thank god. I've been ALL over the internet and all these forums and videos have been horribly confusing and not concise whatsoever. My card got shipped to me with a mining bios from Sapphire and here I am having to fix it because they wanna charge me $30 to send it back.
Lmao. Have you fixed it ?
Waiting for ebay auctions: RX5600XT: "Not checked, doesn't work, I do not know what happened".
precisely this
or black screen wont boot not working parts £100
i wish
Why would this happen
@@gl4989 Because there will be people who mess it up and won't fix it.
@@Jimster481 yeah it's like people who had a problem with a BIOS update and don't know how to use a 5$ external programmer to flash the motherboard. Dual BIOS was invented for them.
I just bricked my 8970m, Hope I can fix this no matter how I startup (safe boot) or normal everytime blue screen of death. Just make sure its not the wrong bios otherwise u can throw ur card probably away like me.
I'm just glad we know we're getting jebaited out here. Thanks Steve!
It is mentioned that if there is no change in performance you may have to reinstall the driver, and that you may even have to DDU it.
For anyone wondering DDU is short for Display Driver Uninstaller. A utility that was written to delete all traces of the display drivers, something the normal uninstall procedure won't do. This allows the driver installation do a completely clean installation which can sometimes clear up strange behavior.
DDU can be downloaded from several sites, but personally I always go to guru3d.com, though I guess Wagnardsoft might be the official home for this utility as it is written by Ghislain Harvey aka Wagnard on the Guru3D forums.
Very cool and relevant, thank you GN!
I'd love for you to do reviews of a bunch of different cards like for the 5700 XT because this is one I will probably get
Considering I haven’t used a desktop dedicated gpu in like 15 years, this really is helpful for more than just 5600 buyers/computer novices as just a handy reminder.
The 5800 will be a DIY assemble kit!
"DIY"
What a grand and intoxicating innocence.
You would , at the very least , need to summon a Marid level Djinn to frankenstitch the fucking thing for you.
Our local distro announced that they will hold back stock and will flash to the new BIOS before releasing to retail. Something more distros should do.
Super useful and important info to get out there. But jesus christ as someone who didnt need it also incredibly boring. Good on you Steve for making a video that might not get a ton of views but will undoubtedly help a ton of people, and sorry for the mixed messages lol.
Back in the earlier days, you could recover a bricked card on iGPU by just unplugging the power connections to the card and turning on the PC, the card would be recognized enough in windows to reflash the BIOS but it doesn't try to use it as a display output. I wonder if the same is the case here
I've done this a lot but this is a wonderful tutorial. I'll definitely be directing people to this.
This is a great help!
Great, now take it apart and make Buildzoid do a breakdown of the board. I'm sure yet another navi breakdown is just what he was planning for this week. Kek.
With your recovery script that may need to be run blind you should probably set it up to run as administrator beforehand. I'm pretty sure a lot of batch scripts require that and it would cause problems if trying to run it blind.
I'm surprised that the newly flashed BIOS is working without re-installing the drivers while with the 5700xt almost every RUclipsr with graphic card boxes in the background stated that you should reinstall drivers when you switch from the OC bios to the quiet one to make it work.
This dude really doing work here, thank you
Somehow I got my hand in a jar.
Just seems the whole 5600XT is special. If AMD knew Nvidia would do what they did, why not release the performance from day one, instead of causing everyone run around like a chicken with head cut off. It is still interesting it has that much power hidden to begin with.
I even believe having read somewhere about the RX 5000 series having the architecture to support Ray Tracing (DXR) but not implementing it in their drivers since there aren't as many games yet that utilize the proper form of DXR support , i.e. Global Illumination.
Because it would cannibalize the 5700 series.
They crippled the card instead of releasing it at its real baseline performance so that people would buy the remaining stock of 5700 non-XT cards for more money. That's how I see it, anyway. It honestly feels like a scam that AMD had to low-key admit they were pulling when the 2060 dropped in price and they just magically pulled +10% or so performance out of nowhere.
Like, what happened AMD, you lose that 10% in the couch cushions somewhere and only just now find it?
@GamersNexus You could set up RDP first, in case something goes wrong. Then it would not be totally blind.
I flashed a 5700 red dragon with the XT red dragon bios, I had to force it as the subsystem IDs were a mismatch. Mine ended in 2399, and the XT bios ended in 2398. The card is stable with the new bios, although performance increase was kinda low, about 4% on synthetic benchmarks. That being said I can now OC it much higher because I have the XT power limits. Auto OCing via adrenalin 2020 got me over 2000mhz core and performance got a nice bump with temps still being well within safe bounds.
A warning though. I can't speak for other cards, but the PowerColor red dragon 5700 will lock your bios after you flash it once. I can no longer flash it back to the original 5700, even with the force command, I get a "bios was not erased" error. And it looks like I'm not the only one with this problem on this specific card. The card is 100% stable and works great, but just keep that in mind. I still have the dual bios switch with the other one being the 5700 silent bios, so I'm safe either way.
You mentioned an upgraded vbios for 5700XT. Which manufacturer is offering it?
I'm wondering if he confused the numbers. PowerColor (which he mentions), has a 5600 XT BIOS flash but not a 5700 XT. All that's for DL for the 5700 XT Red Devil are the outdated 19.8.1 drivers for Win 10 and 7 and the RGB utility.
Thank you great content, as always.
Welcome to the GN help desk, my name is Steve how may I help you today....
Instructions unclear, I've dropped my pants in front of this card five times now, still not getting the performance improvement. Should I try a trench coat instead?
@@bradhaines3142 estra thicc PCI-e lane'd bodies for best results
So, you're saying that you will be our collective IT desk for free?! :)
#winning
Time to unlock your Phenom II 955 into a quad-core and get this card to double the unlock power.
Tech Jesus has spoken!!!!!!!
TIP if you brick your card by a VBIOS mistake with no switch just get a computer with onboard grathics boot with onboard grathics with card installed and it should allow you to Flash, found this out a few years ago when a freind of mine bricked his 280x.
Damn talk about being wary of your trusted company to release a final product with no errors holy crap im sorta on the fence about this mishap
looks like my next card will be from a rival company .
I want to do this to my 2080Ti FE which is power limited, but I think I won't haha.
As long as you have a card by anyone but MSI, they will give you the original BIOS. At MSI they tell you to pound sand, even when you ask nicely or even if you cite their own policy back to them in a follow up email.
Am I wrong to think that this whole thing is basically a marketing tactic? I'm not saying that it is bad, in fact it is pretty smart if it successfully drives sales. What I am really wondering here is if this is a one time performance bump or has actual potential for future performance bumps that would be significant.
"Some cards will have that VBIOS available, with some partners splitting their 5600XT into two SKUs."
...So it sounds like the performance VBIOS _will_ be available, you just have to reflash the subpar SKU's BIOS with the BIOS from the performance SKU.
Basically, some AMD board partners want an extra $20-40 or whatever premium they're charging for a quick software patch to let you get all the performance out of your own hardware that you paid for.
I'm not saying they're scamming people, but...
it's not necessarily the exact same model than the non-OC. Also if they are smart for their business, they'll make the OC VBIOS not compatible with the non-OC model.
why just not overclock the card to the new clocks within the old bios?
@@luigius8590 Because 1. the old BIOS sets lower power limits, which holds you back, and 2. as a matter of principle I shouldn't have to overclock just to get the expected capable performance out of a product. It should perform at what it's expected to be capable of out of the box, and overclocking should be to squeeze extra bonus performance that may or may not be available beyond expectations, depending on silicon lottery and other luck factors.
@@wasd____ Well, you get what you pay for, the OC is just a bonus. The goal of AMD was to have a 150W card with a certain TDP. The new VBIOS is not suited for every card and it's like the Polaris RX500 series.
You never get the ultimate perf with a chip without tweaking it. Just compare that to CPUs: unlocked CPU factory presets are rarely near their maximum, and locked CPUs or inferior binned chips are artificially cut to fit a category where they match the spec. All electronic manufacturers do that, even for discrete components. If an AOP or a triode matches the specs but fails to obtain them at a certain voltage or a certain range of temperature, the component is downclassed.
@@PainterVierax "Well, you get what you pay for"
That's my point: you SHOULD get what you pay for. But if you got the old BIOS, you're not; the fact that a new BIOS was just magically pulled out when it suited AMD and provides an instant 10% increase on the exact same cards shows that you're getting roughly 10% less than what you paid for, and that this was deliberate. Releasing a new BIOS shows that this wasn't about binning - if that BIOS is fine for every card in a given SKU, which seems to be the case for many SKUs, then obviously they figure every card can handle it. What they know every card can handle should have been the baseline. Instead their baseline was an artificial cap that cheated people out of about 10% in order to induce people to buy more expensive cards.
“Sometimes great possibilities are right in front of us but we don't see them because we choose not to. I think that we need to be open to exploring something new.”
- Barry Allen "The Flash"
About to flash this sucker to a 5700. I need to be able to roll back the drivers.
Just checked their site and they've replaced the article where the BIOS update was available with completely different content [that present these cards as ready-out-of-box].
Why do you act like a BIOS update is such a problem? You don't do that for mainboards at all. I am actually shocked about the deliberate bad mothing. Hope NVidia pays well when you sell your integrity.
Me watches video: "Cant wait for Navi Killer."
6 months later: A sign of thermal nuclear blast has been spotted. Has WW3 started already!?
Aaayyyyyyy!!!!
I’ve seen video cards with dual/triple BIOS acting funny if you flip a BIOS with the system running. While they should not touch the BIOS after the card is booted and the OS has taken control of it, be aware this may not be standard for every manufacturer, so avoid flipping a BIOS with the system running as much as you can.
True but it works in practice with those devices.
Can a 750watt bronze be able to support it?
Make sure to close out of any monitoring programs like MSI Afterburner, HWINFO, etc. before flashing.
I don't see the point of flashing the BIOS when you can use MorePowerTool to achieve the same thing without the risk of bricking your GPU.
This reminds me of way back when AMD allowed partners to upgrade standard 7950 to 7950 boost. Some vendors released tools to let you do the upgrades. That gave nowhere near the performance bump that this does though.
It is possible to just use the bios from another card It should work fine even if the board partners dont release it. Ive done this many times with older cards and even if they had different memory it still worked ok.
ye will work alot of times but not always and can cause some strange behavior depending on how different the bios is. definitely something that should be done with caution
Surely Step 1 is check to see if your card has already had the flash done.
"When you look for timestamps, but you realize , you're not on Linus tech tips channel"
Wait.
The cards do validate flashed bioses at all?
This explains a lot....
Since Vega, if you flip a random bit in the bios, the card will not work. Vega/Navi requires a signed vbios.
Jebaited edition, priceless 🤣
Daamn! And I thought pre-ordering software was bad. Turns out pre-ordering hardware can turn out much worse!
It wasent outdated software it was marketing
Not really! Just return it if you're unhappy with it.
I love AMD but this should be treated as a deceptive market practice in all honesty. You can't underdeliver to some customers while being consciously aware of it.
IMO, relying on a batch file alone is bad idea.... You should just keep your old GPU around and put it together with your new one if something goes wrong.. For backup, you can also enable (and test beforehand) Remote Desktop, and if you brick it, connect via RDP to reflash it... You don't need an additional PC, even phones now have RD Client application...
It's almost as if softmodding/bios-flashing ATI/AMD cards for extra performance has been a common occurance for two decades...oh wait!
why techpowerup guide said never flash bios in windows??? i thought flashing is done on dos with bootable usb stick
Was it just me or did Steve seem particularly annoyed with the viewers today? He kind of seemed to have a, "go away you peasants, don't you dare ever try to talk to me or interact with me because I'm better than you" vibe going on today.
Great video fully informed, is it possible to use the same method with 6800, as it's bricked!?
But Steve, Which one should i use??
When I run the AMDVBios executable, my PC hard freezes. It happens as soon as I click Run as Administrator, just an instant freeze that I have to use the power supply switch to clear.
Jebaited Edition! LMAO!
Basically most of the OC and high end 5600XTs should be safe and almost all manufacturers have already released a BIOS update.
i dont think we can blame amd for creating 2 cards with the same name, thats down to the board partners taking advantage of the fact amd gave customers more for their money. i for 1 will be avoiding any board partner that takes advantage of this to charge more for the same thing. not making the updated bios available but charging more for an oc card which is really the same as stock from others is a real shitty move.
mmmmmmm best to get the second batch of these cards, I almost preorder one. How can you tell if the one you purchase is the older cards will the sellers pull these cards off their listings
Any thoughts or heard any rumors about and improvements to the 5700/xt?
If vbios flash were to fail would I be able to use RDP (or any remote desktop software) to flash my backup file?
just curious, if buying this new card,,,
what's the first thing to do
Update vBios > update adrenaline driver
Or
Update Adrenaline and then update the VBios
Having onboard graphics, excellent, isn't that going to require an apu?
or 99% of Intel consumer dektop CPU's
I didn't realise Intel had been hit so hard as to do onboard graphics, they always had a go at AMD for that and said they weren't serious enough.
Guess they should sell the first badge 5600 XT as 5600 X and at a 11 % discount :D
Bro my mainboard showes b2 error code and i buy a amd hd 5770 but my 2 gpu dont recocnice
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