Watchmen: A Pointless Adaptation

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    #Watchmen is one of the most well known #dc stories to ever come out. There is #batman , #superman , #wonderwoman and then there is watchmen... Well sorta. And now there is another adaptation of the classic 80s story. Here are my thoughts on it.
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Комментарии • 85

  • @DareToEntertain
    @DareToEntertain  Месяц назад +7

    Videos have been struggling lately, you guys been liking the DC stuff?

  • @jordanbouma9843
    @jordanbouma9843 Месяц назад +18

    Thank you for addressing the animation style. "Comic book accurate" is a loose term. Just because it has the same dialogue, or has the exact panels, doesn't mean it's captured the spirit of the story. This goes for many comic book adaptations. I worked at a comic book store for years, and it's dreadfully disappointing to see how many people have negative preconceived notions on a beloved character or story because they had only witnessed a lesser version of it in film. Not their fault, it just makes the original stories more difficult for new readers to experience, because they have already seen all the key plot points in the films, and there's no shock and awe to serve alongside the better execution.

  • @jacobschulman1306
    @jacobschulman1306 Месяц назад +5

    I belive the movie is ment to celabrate 15 years since the live action movie.

  • @jameshoreman475
    @jameshoreman475 19 дней назад +2

    I’ll be honest I would be completely fine with this adaptation if the voice acting was better, particularly Rorschach and Dr Manhattan’s voice acting. The voice acting in the motion comic/audiobook is so much better in my opinion and are pretty much the definitive voices for Most of the male cast for me. The voice direction for the cast seems to be heavily influenced by the Snyder movie, especially Rorschach with his Christian Bale Batman growl that’s in both movies.

  • @AnvilPictures
    @AnvilPictures Месяц назад +1

    3:47 I don’t think Zack was making a point because this and his other work is very similar just with a different story with no actual meaning. All cares about is sex, nudity and the weirdly vague sense of Grape. He doesn’t understand superhero’s and his whole god thing suits the boys more then what ever he did with the DC films

  • @PlatypusDude234
    @PlatypusDude234 Месяц назад

    Yummmy

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka Месяц назад +12

    I still don’t understand why we need another watchmen animated movie it feels so unnecessary in my opinion.

    • @DareToEntertain
      @DareToEntertain  Месяц назад +2

      And to this quality... If it were PEAK then yeah sure but this animation style is NOT it. Just man, i am really bummed about this.

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka Месяц назад

      @@DareToEntertain I can understand that and honestly for me personally I think I think dc needs to stop adapting watchmen mostly because it feels so unnecessary and not interesting in my opinion.

    • @LoveXCraft24
      @LoveXCraft24 Месяц назад +1

      ​@DareToEntertain To be honest I don't really think the Watchmen story is that good. Have the comic and I didn't think it was that interesting. Bit overrated for me, but revolutionary for the time

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka Месяц назад

      @@LoveXCraft24 i can understand that

    • @marcelo-ramos
      @marcelo-ramos Месяц назад +1

      Well, there wasn't one. Now there is one. DC animated movies sell well enough that they keep doing them. It was a matter of time before they did one for Watchmen. I personally don't like any of their animated movies, they are not for me, since I just prefer to read the books. However, I understand an animated movie had to be done. It's for a different audience.

  • @alepop.possessions
    @alepop.possessions 27 дней назад +1

    this yet again proves Watchmen is unfilmable. I love Snyder’s adaptation but it’s more of a summarized companion piece. the only way to get the complete Watchmen experience is by reading the book.

  • @vagabundood
    @vagabundood 14 дней назад +1

    The motion comic was sooooooo much better😊

  • @coinopanimator
    @coinopanimator Месяц назад +2

    Honestly the watchmen motion comic looks better than this.

  • @brianwilcox1686
    @brianwilcox1686 Месяц назад +1

    I swear if they do an adaptation of doomsday clock, I beg please don’t use this style or animation

    • @imahoare4742
      @imahoare4742 Месяц назад +1

      Does DC even remember Doomsday Clock?

  • @jimbob3920
    @jimbob3920 Месяц назад +4

    Dude been looking for a new guy to break down all nerd stuff to watch I think u may be that guy keep it up my dude

    • @DareToEntertain
      @DareToEntertain  Месяц назад

      This really means a lot mate. We got like 20 or so videos we want to do for the rest of the year. Huge plans for the future on this channel.

  • @callumward1343
    @callumward1343 Месяц назад +6

    I’m an unstoppable force, no one can beat me

  • @mexifry222
    @mexifry222 20 дней назад

    Just watched and I liked it. The removal of Synder's slo-mo and flashy-ness let me focus on the story and themes.
    HBO show was amazing? Lol

  • @karmelodion
    @karmelodion 29 дней назад

    Great vid.. i hadn't clocked the cgi spiderman history but it's very clear.. i enjoyed that show, although nobody else seems to.. anyway, thanks again.

  • @eliroth9978
    @eliroth9978 Месяц назад +2

    Worth noting that Dave Gibbons was actually directly involved with this movie (he’s credited as a consulting producer in the opening credits). He worked with Brandon Veitti and the animation team to ensure the art style and storytelling remained true to the original graphic novel.

    • @DareToEntertain
      @DareToEntertain  Месяц назад +1

      While I adore hearing this and it makes me respect Brandon Veitti even more. The end result sadly for me still wasn’t enough for me to be able to praise its visuals. But just to make something really clear. To hear that they did this on watchmen of All IP’s is good to hear. I’ll be doing a video on part 2 and as for all films and tv I watch. I’ll be going in with the hope of enjoying it. Maybe it’ll all click and in the back half of the book there are tons of sequences that can be stunning.

  • @jrdnnss
    @jrdnnss 23 дня назад

    not to mention the god-awful Dc Tomorrowverse art style. how do we nuke it out of existence.

  • @NathanWhite-o4d
    @NathanWhite-o4d 13 дней назад

    Hernandez Timothy Moore Betty Perez Michael

  • @avlis101
    @avlis101 Месяц назад +1

    Watching this movie left bad taste in mouth

  • @aSkymne
    @aSkymne Месяц назад +1

    always strange finding a new channel and being shocked that its not huge. quality content my man! and i still cant believe We let Zack Snyder of all people adapt Watchmen (even tho i have a nostalgic fondness for that movie)

  • @mr.nimbus537
    @mr.nimbus537 Месяц назад

    I thought it would be different from the live action movie. It's basically the same, but really boring. The voice actors suck. They seem there just for a paycheck.

  • @PileOfStones
    @PileOfStones Месяц назад +1

    Haven't seen this adaptation nor do I plan to. I appreciate you making the editing choice to compare and contrast at 3:42 in the book, the layout of panels as he's on Mars is so important to depicting his hopelessness and detatchment as time ticks down before he drops the photo. The fact you see multiple panels as you read it is incredibly important and this animation style on this budget cannot achieve what the other adaptations tried to do in evoking that feeling. It can't be beaten because it's beautiful due to the nature of a comic book.

  • @Nabroc666
    @Nabroc666 Месяц назад +1

    Im a huge fan of watchmen and no matter how many times they try to adapt it into something other than a comic, it always turns out bad because they just dont fucking get it...

  • @vengeance4566
    @vengeance4566 Месяц назад +3

    Idc atleast its better than Zack Snyer adaptation

  • @DareToEntertain
    @DareToEntertain  Месяц назад

    discord.gg/gfXScPqQb6 JOIN THE DISCORD!!!! 158 People there already talking comics, anime, manga and tons of stuff.

  • @madvizion742
    @madvizion742 Месяц назад +1

    DC's contract with Moore in regards to The Watchmen states that after a year of no publications the rights will be returned to Moore. He has yet to get the rights back. They will continue to publish something once a year to retain the rights over this IP. Moore doesnt like it so much... But he signed...

    • @marcelo-ramos
      @marcelo-ramos Месяц назад

      Moore has no respect for his own work. If he ever gets the rights back, he would either refuse ownership, make it public domain, or just leave it rot. At this point I don't mind DC keeping them.

    • @madvizion742
      @madvizion742 Месяц назад

      @@marcelo-ramos either way, it's just another snake move on the part of a big company versus a Creator. Moore is a very cynical individual, however is talented as to have made money without that IP. Now, to have it back from a cynical stand point would be a reminder of a time he'd probably rather forget. In that respect, I don't blame him.

    • @AnvilPictures
      @AnvilPictures Месяц назад

      @@marcelo-ramosallen Moore never sold the rights or at least not involved. The artists also posses the rights and most of the time it was them not him allowing the adaptations to be made

    • @marcelo-ramos
      @marcelo-ramos Месяц назад +1

      @@AnvilPictures they don't need to "allow" the adaptations it's within DC's right as copyright holder. But DC has given Moore plenty of chances to participate, up to the point where they offered him to get the rights back permanently if he wrote a sequel. He refused. He just doesn't care. Dave Gibbons, in the other hand, is very involved in Watchmen projects.

    • @AnvilPictures
      @AnvilPictures Месяц назад

      @@marcelo-ramos I do kinda respect Allen Moore and what he stands for. He has said in the past that he isn’t against superhero movies he just doesn’t want his work to be adapted because they always miss the point and make a weaker story because of it. He must really dislike Zack the most because he always butchered the adaptation.

  • @flowthrake
    @flowthrake Месяц назад

    I'm enjoying it. Not sure it really requires any prior knowledge of the story to follow what's happening. Interesting about the MTV Spidey show connection because that definitely came to mind while watching this.

  • @DareToEntertain
    @DareToEntertain  Месяц назад

    Patreon.com/DaretoEntertain Patreon link is here people if ya wanna help us out

  • @uub_plz2651
    @uub_plz2651 Месяц назад

    You should still check out Gurren Lagann, especially as a Yuri fan

  • @moeschmoshow
    @moeschmoshow Месяц назад

    What a waste of animation money

  • @akshaytrayner1960
    @akshaytrayner1960 Месяц назад

    Great vid

  • @dreworyan5652
    @dreworyan5652 Месяц назад +2

    I’ll die on this hill… live action Watchmen is the greatest superhero film of all time

    • @imahoare4742
      @imahoare4742 Месяц назад +2

      Of all the hills to die in, why that one? It's a soulless adaptation that fails in every aspect to convey the themes and attitude of the comic. Its visually nice but Zack Snyder fundamentally doesn't understand what he's adapting or why it's important. Spider-Man 2, Batman: The Movie, Scott Pilgrim vs The World and Dredd are all better adaptations that understand and encapsulate the look, feel and themes of what they're adapting that they look and feel like a comic books come to life. Watchmen feels like it's trying desperately not to be a comic book movie.

    • @dreworyan5652
      @dreworyan5652 Месяц назад +1

      @@imahoare4742 The story (while not portraying the smaller nuances of the subjects) is literally almost panel for panel of the comic book with visual effects better than most films in general.
      Very realistic “heroes” and “villains”. Can’t tell who’s who half the time. Stylized with good action. Most superhero films don’t compare (Spider-Man 1 does)

    • @DareToEntertain
      @DareToEntertain  Месяц назад +1

      I do have an entire section in this video how Snyder misinterpreted sequences which changes the entire meaning of certain plot elements. Harming the overall story. Now this isn’t objective by any stretch but saying it’s panel for panel when I really tried hard to make clear how Snyder’s work fails to lift certain concepts properly.

    • @karmelodion
      @karmelodion 29 дней назад

      Camel toe

  • @callumward1343
    @callumward1343 Месяц назад +1

    Troy baker reference ❤

    • @DareToEntertain
      @DareToEntertain  Месяц назад

      He is actually really good in this

    • @sultanmalik1
      @sultanmalik1 Месяц назад

      You mean the voice of Greed in Fullmetal Alchemist.

    • @DareToEntertain
      @DareToEntertain  Месяц назад

      Yes genuinely one of my favourite roles of his.

  • @sultanmalik1
    @sultanmalik1 Месяц назад

    You didn't clearly told the best watchmen adaption in your opinion btw nice video. 😀😀

    • @DareToEntertain
      @DareToEntertain  Месяц назад +2

      I don’t think there is one. The book is the best and really only way to first experience this. Then watch both animated and live action to be able to just experience it in a different but much worse version of the same story

    • @sultanmalik1
      @sultanmalik1 Месяц назад

      @@DareToEntertain Thanks for replying, brother. I just love your commentary.

  • @InShibuya
    @InShibuya Месяц назад

    i haven’t seen watchmen.

    • @DareToEntertain
      @DareToEntertain  Месяц назад +2

      Tbh idk if you even should. But 100% read it

  • @izzfizz_
    @izzfizz_ Месяц назад

    They don goofed again

  • @callumward1343
    @callumward1343 Месяц назад

    Should I read watchmen?

    • @DareToEntertain
      @DareToEntertain  Месяц назад +1

      Absolutely! They have just re-released it apart of their new set of comics to get people into reading DC. Itll be at a local store for sure soon or on Amazon for like $25 or so. Its legit one of my favourite DC stories period.

    • @callumward1343
      @callumward1343 Месяц назад

      @@DareToEntertainI’ll give it a look next time am picking up some comics

  • @leonmcshane
    @leonmcshane Месяц назад

    Great video

    • @DareToEntertain
      @DareToEntertain  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks man. WB really made it tough to get it out tonight.

  • @reddays8448
    @reddays8448 Месяц назад

    You know how easy it is to do a cartoon

  • @diamondinthesky4771
    @diamondinthesky4771 Месяц назад +1

    me who still gave up on literally everything DC after the Shitopolips Dump movie (refuse to even watch their shows, that is how deep my hatred of that movie goes): Is not surprised this movie choked considering how much in the shitter DC's parent company WB is often said to be.

    • @DareToEntertain
      @DareToEntertain  Месяц назад

      I am still happy to have you hear in the comments even though you arent watching these movies anymore.

  • @immortalmangafan7155
    @immortalmangafan7155 Месяц назад

    i love the hbo watchman show…i’m pretty sure that was an unpopular back then but i loved it

  • @FrostKenn1
    @FrostKenn1 Месяц назад +1

    The snyder shit is worse vision
    this animated version are pure base on the novel itself.

    • @DareToEntertain
      @DareToEntertain  Месяц назад

      Funny how this made me see Snyder's stuff in a new light.

  • @LuisSierra42
    @LuisSierra42 Месяц назад

    Snyder version is pure cinema