The making of the Bourke Street murderer | Four Corners
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2019
- James Gargasoulas was a 26-year-old heavy drug user with an extensive criminal record when he drove a car at high speed through central Melbourne killing six people, including a baby boy and a 10-year-old girl.
He was sentenced to life in prison earlier this year for the January 2017 Bourke Street attack.
Despite a guilty verdict there are still outstanding questions about why Gargasoulas was able to carry out such a crime.
Much of the evidence against Gargasoulas has not been seen by the public before. In this painstaking investigation, months in the making, Four Corners reveals troubling failures to catch and hold Gargasoulas.
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When you have a sex worker calling the police to report a psychopath it is probably time to listen.
I couldn't agree more
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Absolutely!
They probably wrote it off as drug induced and bondage. Big mistake in the end.
Poor Angelo, abandoned by his “mother”, non stop abuse from his “father”, and attempted to be murdered by his “brother” and yet appears to be a decent guy.
I wouldn’t say that, buddy also has criminal history
Angelo looks like a typical bad boi.
@@sheshystar9380it depends what kind of c. History. I have too. I am addicted to h. My criminal history is “only” possession not dealing. It’s my money and I work for it and do nothing criminal beside I’d taking the drug. It’s my body.
Should've told him where the bunker was and non of this would've happened
Dang
Moral of the story... calling Dominos pizza would have been more effective than calling the Victorian police in the 9-10 hours prior to Bourke street.
the VIC govt was too busy securing the belt and road project from China
This is simply unbelievable, even Afghan police would have done more.
@adamgardiner well said.
Pathetic how nobody in law enforcement was held accountable 😮
They never are. Never, for anything.
well what are you going to do about it you a pathetic too
@@JohnLooglemanwhat about the George Floyd incident?
STFU if you’re that dumb.
By the way the cop was innocent in that case.
Actually it was the policy makers and a volunteer bailsman who tied the hands of the officers who were out there on the streets trying to do their jobs. If the cops who were actually doing the work were allowed to do their jobs and make decisions they would not have allowed him out on bail, would not have allowed him to get away on a car chase, would not have been forced to tippy-toe around the guy. It's not the cops fault. It's their bosses fault. A volunteer teacher is allowed to make bail decisions and overturn police decisions? What? That pisses me off.
Well they never are. The on,y people accountable Aron d Victoria police are the fines they mete out for littering.
400,000 warning signs and our legal system does nothing
Its not that the legal system did nothing its that the legal system didnt want to violate the "human rights" of these undesirables. Yes if Western countries were more like China where they would have just death penalty these scabs of society but then you Snowflakes would cry about human rights violation and sue the government then the taxpayers would have to pay for it. You can but you wont get a government system that supports both tough laws and human rights.. the only countries I can think of is Malaysia and Singapore.. Vote for me Ill be hard only on criminals.. 2-3 violent crimes that you are found Guilty in an "open-shut" case and its a long sleep for you.. and NO you cant use Mental Disability as an excuse.
@ and they cant use Insanity or mental disability as an excuse.. if you are insane and mentally disabled its more of a reason for you to get the death penalty.. that way you dont reproduce your undesirable genes to the future generations..
obviously an inside job
@ Comments deleted... hmm not dodgy at all
@@clutsta Well. Pretty much everyone is addicted to and/or relies on just a few Social Media platforms these days - namely RUclips, Facebook and Twitter. So now THEY are deciding what is true and what isn´t, and if you don´t agree you will get deleted. Sick! Sad! World!
The fact that the police knew everything and didn’t act makes it more horrible
like that isnt suprising
There's many people who deserve that type of treatment and haven't received it James was not one!
How many times do police have to go out of their way to prove beyond any doubt that police are absolutely useless before people will realize that police are absolutely useless? Even worse than useless, a bigger threat to the overall safety of the public than the vast majority of the so-called criminals they go after. Oh no, high school kid next door just sold a $10 bag of weed, for the SECOND TIME, we better get him off the street and put him in prison FOR DECADES. What an absolute fkn joke .....
who say police did not do anything? didn't you see posh police with patel vest rushed to help the victims.
The police are only useful until after the incident takes place not before this is why Australians need to be able to have open carry permits
The incompetence of all the police is unbelievable. Even when he was doing burnouts at the intersection there were 3 unmarked cop cars watching him.
What could they do? Hundreds of people in the way. Can't even shoot because your bullets could get caught by a civilian. It's so easy for people to judge from the other side of a screen. Easy to blame cops. But the reality is that their opportunities to stop this man, who had been on this footpath rampage for less than a minute, were few and far between. And they did stop him. They did do their jobs. And the cops themselves did not cause any further injuries.
You can't just ram the guy in the middle of a crowd. Or shoot in the middle of a crowd. You have to make sure nobody else gets hurt while you're trying to stop him. If any cop had fired and hit a civilian, he would be hung by the media, and probably you. So be careful what you say.
@@Yosetime ever been to illegal street car meet or a burnout competition in a suburban street ? The cops know exactly what to do and they shut it down in minutes and that’s with heaps of spectators and cars watching. So I stick with my comment.
should they also drive down the side walk maybe they didnt have the tools to stop them maybe they had to wait for an armed cop they work for the goverenment and that could be dangerous for them they are heros heros that do the roadside cleanup
@@paulgaspar3267 Yeah, but they stop illegal meets with loads of cops in cars blocking off everything. That wasn't possible in this situation, so stick with your comment all you want, but you're still wrong.
@@Erebus.666.gotta say that I agree with you 🤷🏼♀️
Angelo is PROOF, as I am, that you can be abused most of your childhood with extreme cruelty, but not grow up to hurt people. Angelo is a decent bloke, and Im sorry our system also let him down,just for him having to deal with it.
Same here brother but i actually lashed out and hurt others because of the abuse i lived with from my parents at home and people on the streets, thats all i knew. Ive lived with PTSD as far back as i can remember. It took me over 30 years to make peace with the damage that was done to me.
DEPORT HIM BACK TO HIS OWN COUNTRY. HE DOESN'T BELONG HERE IN AUSTRALIA 👈🏾
@@cheryltravis8616 That is ridiculous thing to say, I have 11 convict ancestors who were deported out of their own countries as do you probably. Unless you’re an aboriginal this isn’t your country to decides who gets to go. You bigot.
That poor guy just needed someone to be support him
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I remember the exact day this happened, I was celebrating my 11th birthday in the city with my family when we heard the commotion from down the street. We had luckily just stopped to get a drink for my sister and just missed going onto the street where the people were killed. A few minutes later we were told what happened exactly and my parents had to sit me and my young sister down and explain the severity of the situation, how we were safe, and that we had to go home. It was traumatizing and even though I wasn't a direct victim of the killings, I still remember those moments like it was yesterday.
I am very sorry for your trauma!!
I reported a family violence incident at that exact precinct about 3 years ago. Not only did they not take me seriously, but the policeman kept messaging me asking if he could come over after work to check on me. I made a complaint to DHS about my ex as he was a father and I was no longer around to look after his daughter. A policeman from that precinct called me at 11:30pm one night to tell me to leave my ex alone?? I figured they had made friends with him.
Years later, I got a call saying that my complaint had been flagged when somebody was processing it and legally they had been required to act on it. They wanted to go and arrest my ex years later, after I'd moved cities to get away from him.
I made them drop the charges because I wanted to move on. But I was not suprised the way they joked around with James and the casual texting with him. It's disgraceful.
I'm not surprised either that they were friendly with James either. I assume they are desensitised criminal behaviour as they probably see it everyday, and only deal with the most extreme cases. According to the documentary he was an informant. However, what happened to you was clearly traumatic, it just wasn't something that the police chose to deal with, due to whatever reasons (resources, policy blablabla). Then there was the one officer that behaved unprofessionally by repeatedly sending personal messages to you, offering to visit after work hours under the pretense of checking on you. I probably would have found this behaviour surprising in the past, but it honestly doesn't surprise me anymore. In these crisis situations, often the victim of violence is expected to move out, regardless if it's financially feasible. And you moved out, which is great on your behalf - but unfortunately was not what you needed from the police at the time.
That's bad. Hope you are ok now and safe. I can relate personally to some of what you said. All the best 🙏☮️💜
Why wasn’t he locked up for hitting his gf car and causing her so much injury? The law failed that’s why he was able to continue his behavior and kill so many people. When he’s driving like crazy and killing so many people why didn’t they shot those tires out. I’m so frustrated with this!
You get in more trouble now for not wearing a mask and wanting to visit relatives
And iam frustrated and disgusted with you been so concerned about the spellings when there are literally ten people laying dead on the street
@JJ Mr. Not mr. 😂 Nice try
@@ArtVandelayOfficial No cap!
@@ArtVandelayOfficial as you should
It is obvious from the documentary that the system miserably failed at every instance possible.
Can't keep blaming the system
@@jayd4037 actually you can, that’s how you change it and make it better.
@@jayd4037 it's common sense, if something isn't working, you fix it ....
Yes the system failed, but it was never like that. If this happened in 1980 or before he would've been shot hours before.
@@jayd4037 It is the system.
How did nobody notice? The guy was completely nuts
the world is mad
Quite simply ; people DONT care………….
I don't know if you've ever spent 10 hours waiting in the emergency department with a seriously unwell paranoid schizophrenic who actually wants help only to be *turned away*, or if taken seriously, discharged a week later when they are still talking to imaginary people. It took six weeks and multiple attempts, to get my friend admitted to the psychiatric ward and kept long enough to recover.
The whole mental health system needs an overhaul and a great deal more funding.
It would have been useful if the interviewing police officers had had the training and the power to order a psychiatric assessment before he could apply for bail.
@@woah6958 Sorry to hear that bro. Hope he gets the help he needs. If only people like us ran this world.
@@christianmcbrearty Cheers, dude.
Yes, if only!
The guy on the triple zero call asking 'what does he look like'.
The builder 'he looks a bit like Nick kyrgios'
Finally someone said it.
put the drugs aside and think about mental health what is awaiting us with all the people suffering from mental health from lockdowns.
That cracked me up!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@yukiefromoz2573 what cracked you up
@@zed8155 Initial comment, not yours. Nothing to do with you.
Not wrong
I am so glad Angelo survived. He deserves so much better in this life after all that he's been through
Yes, and Angelo came from the same background and he never did anything like this (or behaved like his brother)...
@@andrechristiansen4977 angelo is hot
Let's be honest, HE doesn't have to live with that.
I bet Angelo did not take meth like his bro did
@@ClassicXL86 he didnt. but he hot and cute. i hooked up with him before all this stuff happened
I have to disagree with the former commissioner: the police did not do “everything” they could have done, sadly. As an example, amongst the many other flawed insistences, when the man was driving in circles in that populated intersection area, before driving into the crowd, they could (or should) have shot his tires out and flattened them. You take that maniac OUT before he takes YOU out, in my opinion.
the police did everything the policies by useless liberal politicians allowed them to do
They were probably concerned that it could force him to lose control of the car and crash into the crowds. If that had been the outcome everyone would have been outraged at the police, not patting them on the back.
@JJ the point of my message was that he would probably lose control of the car and hit the crowd.
What you picked up on is that people will talk and criticise without thinking about alternatives or consequences, which you've demonstrated for me
a ricochet or a miss that hits a bystander in the background would be highly likely. Moving target and people everywhere. No cop wants to be the one who takes the 'granny shot'.
These unqualified Police men do not give a crap if it is not them or the members of their family they get paid anyway
Why do you not put the documentaries on a separate channel on RUclips?
I would watch the documentaries all day.
12 GPM me to
just add them to a playlist
If you’re talking about all documentaries from other countries , I agree with you. I love watching documentaries like this.
Did you know you can subscribe to just the Four Corners playlist? Let me know if you'd like me to show you how.
Just another WHINER
MAYBE SHOW HIM
Damn they could have had him stopped so many times. When he was driving around in circles they looked scared to scratch there cars. Just casually following him down the street?!
3four 4door it wasn’t up to the officers on the ground.
@@j.kapiris still pathetic after all the many times he could been stopped. Its like these officers choreographed it.
The cops just watch while 2 random teens had the balls to intervene and attack him
@@j.kapiris "it wasn't up to the Police on the Ground"...Who do you protect at this point? the people or the criminal? A decision had to be made and made quick...and it looks like it was made at the cost of six lives...It was definitely bad Police decision. Police could've just clipped the car before he took out those poor people.
Should've had an XF
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Every police-officer should've been after him from a certain point.Something is very wrong in that police district. Absurd!
FAKED BY NEWS MEDIA WITH POLICE
Also, how was the roof of the car smashed in, why was he naked upon arrest, why did the 3 unmarked cars behind him m witness and let it happen. So many questions so little answers
@@anthony4274 It's called bad policy, they literally can't do anything because if they do, they risk losing their job. Victoria is woke asf they would rather a disgusting human being like James be alive over 6 innocents.
This is why drugs need to be treated as a medical problem, not (just) a criminal one. This stuff will keep happening until it’s taken seriously.
True shit, i had bad toughts when i smoked drugs... and those bad toughts made me quit by myself... plus smoking drugs can amplify mental issues
Less a drug issue, more a paranoid schizophrenic issue.
@@michaeldobson107 which, if I’m not mistaken, is a medical issue. This is what liberal (de)funding gets you.
@@uzaiyaro *Michael Dobson which, if I’m not mistaken, is a medical issue. This is what liberal (de)funding gets you.*
BOTH are medical issues.
However, his uncontrolled paranoid schizophrenia, not his drug use, caused him to finally lose touch with reality and, in the end, kill all of those innocent people with his car.
That entire video was a rather simple example of a complete mental breakdown in three acts.
But yes, looney Liberal policies and social experiments (a favorite of Liberals everywhere) will get you this every time.
Just look to NYC, Chicago and SF for current examples of this.
Liberals in the US decided a few decades past that closing down all the Psych hospitals and defunding mental health funding (both inpatient and outpatient services) for Medicare was the way to go.
We are dealing with the aftermath of that incredible blunder now in cities all across the US.
Homelessness, increased drug addiction, violent crime rates, unrestrained anger management issues, mental health issues, etc.
Cheers.
Amazing, he didn't come across someone that'll knock his teeth out and put a good hurt on him.
People like this needs a wholesome best down, some until they're six feet in the ground.
I have to say this... I am a fifty year old male and throughout my first 40 years I suffered from a disease/disorder but because it hadn't been recognized until 2008 I basically went through life not being believed by friends and family. Even witnessing one of my seizures or temp paralysis I was still unbelievable. Why is it our governments spend huge amounts of money on jails and the inmates yet they don' have any long term or effective outpatient mental hospitals. Ive turned myself in twice the first time i was basically dismissed, given a drug i had no experience or knowledge of benzodiazapams , I took two that night, had a glass of wine then all I know is I am brought out of a induced coma for the past five weeks because i had hung myself... I was turned away from a place we are all told to go to if you find yourself loosing control. This how people become disenfranchised and act out in a number of crazy ways. God bless everyone, I hope change is on its way... I hope.
Wow that's rough. Hopefully you're getting better
You can thank Kennett for that in Victoria at least. And he is or was the head of beyond blue.
@@arconeagain Victoria bc? I'm not familiar with that name in the Canadian neuroscience community..? And to sound stupid..why do I have him to thank.. Lazy to research him myself...forrgive me.. Lung and brain cancer...not the sharpest dude...I thank you for writing though... S
@@stevengerhart-rinaldo3366 This documentary or report is based on a sequence of events that occurred in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Jeff Kennett was the Premier of Victoria in the 90s. Among other things, he reduced government funding and closed down several hospitals and facilities, some of those that provided public services to the mental health sector. Ironically, after his destructive reign of the state, he had the audacity to lead an organisation called Beyond Blue that provided services and awareness for mental health, in this case, depression.
Based on the geographical placement of this piece, I made a stab in the dark on your location and possible knowledge of the recent history of health facilities and legislation in this part of the world.
what's you disorder, if can I ask?
So much more information in this program than you have heard before ! He should’ve been stopped wayyyyyyy before he even got near Bourke st . To think a cop was texting him & probably knew what he was about to do is disgusting, basically the cops let this happen 🤬
They watched him while sitting in there cars.
That was so so horrible to watch. I just have to remind myself that there were many good people that day... That held the hands of hurt strangers and told them it was going to be ok.
Yes. Like Mr Rogers said “look to the helpers” there are so many many more of them. 💜
Nixon’s comment on “protecting members” is particularly chilling. If the police had been able to take a risk then innocent lives may not have been lost.
A few of her comments were very concerning, she didn't acknowledge any wrong-doing, which makes it hard to learn from the situation and she is at the top.. It's certainly complex, but she *appears* to think there is nothing with the response.
Surely it's up to those members to protect us,not worry about protecting themselves!
IMO her ilk are the problem. My impression of her as an asst commissioner in Nsw police was that she was useless and I was astonished when she was given the commissioner position job in Vic. Her attitude during the Vic bushfire emergency reinforced my assessment. People like her should never be elevated to positions of control. They cause too much damage.
He was the risk.
@@glennfisher1444 He wasn't hired, and paid extremely well, to "build safer communities".
When you live in Australia long enough, you eventually learn to avoid these old Fords and Holdens on the road.
I reckon any old beat up car that’s driving aggressively, I pull over and let them past every time.
Wtf
The icehead mobiles
thats why if you drive old Ford Falcons and Holden Com. , youre most likely catch the eye of the police
Holden drivers are the worst m8
So he kidnaps someone, tosses her out of car and police think not crashing their cars into him is a good idea...when they were merely feet from him..
child abuse doesnt give you excuse to murder
The police system in Australia is much more concerned about handing out petty fines than stopping mass murder it's a disgrace
2 years jail for not wearing a mask. Proprietaries, please.
He was clearly very dangerous. He should not have even been out of lock up when he attacked.
After watching this entire segment, this is very disturbing. There were multiple opportunities to apprehend and incarcerate this individual. What is missing from this piece, is a greater questioning of the former police commissioner. Was she complicit in this week, “soft on crime” policies? Why wasn’t she question more during this documentary? It seems that’s all she was talking general platitudes but there was not any real questioning as to her role.
The police have so much responsibility. I had personal experience with similar occurrence when police did not attend a 000 call 4 times with addicts that were partying for 3-4 days in the above apartment at about 1-2 am, calling and telling me their resources were too outstretched to attend and keep calling 000 if I need to was what the policeman told me over the phone.
If I was to succumb to my frustration and anger, and confronted the addicts, who knows what would have happened.
This was not long ago while the lockdowns were in place in Melbourne where the streets were empty and quiet and when there were hundreds or thousands of police were always available for the peaceful protestors.
Police in Australia needs to be reviewed and cleaned up, and need to be reminded who they are serving.
@covid 1234 I think they were dealt with quick smart when someone called in saying they were contaminated with the C virus or not wearing masks is the word on the grapevine.
Fucc 12 everywhere!
Exactly Ray Ray, fact is that they're Terrified of approaching addicts, they'll avoid doing so as much as they can. And I don't blame them for feeling that way, it's the fact that IT'S THEIR F****ING JOB TO DO THIS & PROTECT PEOPLE IN DANGER from unpredictable people who are being unreasonable to others, but there are too many allowances in the system that allow them to pass the buck. You have to be prepared to protect yourself in this Kuntry, cause help will nearly ALWAYS arrive after the fact, if it even arrives AT ALL FFS!!!
worst blunder from the justice system and police in VIC. fk this burns my heart as a Melbournian
and yet people like you keep voting for the same politicians that allow this stuff to happen
Top 5 for sure
@@strangevisions5162 YEP!
You mean, in Victoria, Australia, a judge or a magistrate doesn't decide on bail but a legal layperson?! I am speechless. Whatever is the reasoning behind this?
"Volunteer" was the word used. This was a person filling a staffing shortage. Your country, like every other country on this planet, has staff shortages at times too. And of course we have magistrates doing bail hearings.
It's unbelievable! She was a school teacher. She wasn't provided with his full record by police and observed them being "warm and friendly" with him. Apparently this led her to believe he was a police informant. The police have so much power and influence they don't seem to realise how it effects people's lives. Now that poor woman who thought she would be making the world a better place with her volunteer work, now has to live with the fact she could have prevented this tragedy 💔
At least we all know the truth now about how the police dealt with the Gargasoulas incident. The knowledge doesn't absolve them of what they did, but we can be sure what to expect from them in the future given their past actions@@user-cz6gk2ci4k
Angelo seems like such a good guy considering what he's been through. It just goes to show that even if you've had a rough childhood, there's no excuse to hurt people and Angelo is a prime example of that. "The abused becoming the abuser" is a cop-out in my opinion which makes an excuse for ones behaviour based on what they've been through. Angelo went through the same things and look at him in comparison. I hope he has a good life now that his brother is out of the picture.
He is nowhere near as innocent as you make it seem. A quick google will provide insight.
He's as bad as his brother and is a time bomb waiting to go off. Actually, his brother has the genuine excuse of suffering from serious mental health and learning disabilities from childhood. He should have been given the help he needed. Angelo Gargasoulas doesn't have mental health issues but has chosen to take the same drug ice and has been involved in several violent attacks on his partner and random women. Incredibly the courts have also let him walk free after breaking into a woman's home and holding a knife to her in a drug-induced paranoid attack.
The police seem to be waiting for history to repeat itself.
@@Alan-fv1or What makes you say that?
I had a rough childhood too and did things s a teen and young adult but it was put to an end before all of these types of tragedies could occur... He should've gotten the same
@@AnyoneCanSee wow, how does everyone even know this shit on here?
That ex Police commissioner is almost as delusional as James! So many missed chances to get the guy, yet he was allowed to do this!
Smoke a joint, enter a music festival or drive 10kmh over, and police won't hesitate to show up en masse with infringement notices and handcuffs. Go on an ice bender, stab and kidnap people, drive like you're playing GTA - "we'll just park our cop cars up coz this is too scary."
In South Africa his car would have been turned into a teabag within the 1st second upon realisng his intentions.
How
@@four204u6 by the cops spraying it with their LM5's and law-abiding citizens filling the gaps with their concealed carry firearms. We fight a lot, but we love our people here, and once he bumped the first person then the 1st person who is legally allowed to carry would've dumped an entire magazine into him. It is just that way here.
@@TheProHunting so 100% of South Africans are carrying arms huh? Not a good look
@@anubis8586 who said they were 100% carrying? I think u may have been trying to respond to someone else's post but accidentally posted that comment here, because I said "the (1st) person who is legally allowed to carry". If you understand English, well then you understand what that implies and we don't have to break it down. If you intentionally posted that response... not a good look. It would've made you look very foolish. Lol!
Just read about Angelo, younger brother. He also has anger and ice issues. 7 months before Bourke St, Angelo threatened his Mother with a knife and smashed her mobile during an argument. Both need help.
Of course both do. If their father kept smashing their heads against each other, they both have some sort of brain damage for sure plus the genetics for it.
They're all baked on ice
Yeah funny how they all stood by each other
Any sane person would cut off contact with these types & try to get on with living a more peaceful & level headed life
yup
Police on this case are just as guilty as the guy... disgusting. Out of my sight, not my problem attitude
Except it seems he was well in sight.
Exactly LXM2 Magazine, I can't help but almost feel the same way, highly disgraceful on their part, and sadly things won't change with the flawed system, instances will happen again and again and again and again where innocent people get hurt by violent scumbag rats who shouldn't be allowed on the streets nor cared for by anybody, but the buck keeps on getting passed, and then obedient citizens wonder why people feel frustrated with police in this state & Kuntry. Pass the buck
Some of the police try to do their job but politicians & administrators are out of touch & do not care about innocent people or violent crimes - they only care about their career & money & exploiting others stuck in the rat race
dude if you go for a walk now too far, don't wear a mask, have a picnic the cops find you real quick and its 5 grand....
Absolutely! In NZ we had a situation last week where FIVE cops surrounded an old guy with one leg who didn't have a mask/wasn't vaccinated when he sat on the main street!!!! Call them to attend a burglary? No chance.
Moral of the story: ice, motor vehicles and mental impairment don't mix.
He was a police informer.
They're always sexual/domestic predators. Every damn time.
I lived in a refuge and a lot of people from jail would move there on release and we weren't allowed to know their crimes and to find out one the guys murdered a 24 day year old baby and only got 6 years and got released after four and a half years on good behaviour and then he ended up raping a young girl not long after and high jacking an old man's car.. It's like Wtf? Why let these people go :(
@SHerey Nawar No I don't and im trying sooooo hard to wrap my head around it all.. All I know is my heart breaks for everyone and this might sound sick but even the bad people I feel bad for as they have been so mis guided.. I just dnt knie anymore :(
@@samanthajane9569 "Why let these people go"
because liberal/progressive politicians and gub'ment workers care more about criminals than they do citizens. you have no rights nor importance, so shut up and pay your taxes sheep.
@@strangevisions5162 Yeah I actually agree :( I think my heart wasn't built for this world..
I would not want Christine Nixon to be my waitress at an IHOP much less the police commissioner. Worthless
Whats an ihop?
@@peterdacey3934 restaurant
And yet the cops have no problem hurting / taking out old ladies and innocent people at the moment , just proves how shameful they really are ..
Watching this, I felt sick as it got closer and closer to the event, literally nauseous.
SO many opportunities to stop him...people are dead now because police didn't take action.
Yeahhh this is what we call it human right! 6 people dead with their family mourn for their lost family for their entire life compare with the murderer who live, eating, drinking, sleeping paid by their taxes
Then a year later another psycho did the same thing in Toronto Canada killing 11 & injuring 15 well he plowed thru the unsuspecting pedestrians with his van. Sick fooks!
As long as they didn’t have a gun and the police can’t do their job ….🤷♀️ all good …isn’t the politicians family or loved ones , why would they care ?
I used to work in the building next to where Gargasoulas was arrested. It was absolutely chaotic
Watching this documentary made me realise one thing, that the VIC police are incompetent they had many chances to arrest this guy but each time either he got away or they held back…even at the end when they had his car surrounded, until he sped off and it was too late. Christine Nixon is just deluded the police did a poor job and he should’ve never been allowed out on bail…too much police bureaucracy from the top, the police also have blood on their hands.
RIP to the six victims 🌹 and all the lives ruined by this deranged man’s actions on Friday 20th January 2017.
Aussie police are corrupt.who knew beyond fosters & vegimite.CORRUPT CHICK WORKING FOR COPS AND GANGSTERS.METH KILLER OLD COP RICHARDSON.WHO KNEW LAND OF KOALA SO INCOMPETENT.
Well that's the same former Chief Commissioner who thought it was more important to have her hair done and go out to lunch on the same day that the worst bushfires in Australian history incinerated 173 Victorians. She made the same excuse then.
Ok to be fair, bail is granted by a court not police and I feel like the police had already charged him multiple times and he seemed to be let go by judges.
@@benjamin9120
Australian laws are weak & punishments rarely fit the crimes - police who try to do a good job protecting the community would surely give up & become weary of dealing with despicable people & a weak legal system - plus corruption & bureaucratic rubbish such as using volunteer unqualified bail justices for hearings after hours....
Attempted murder of his former partner using a car, ongoing mental health & substance abuse issues, serious assualt of his pregnant girlfriend, extensive criminal history without any meaningful rehabilitation or treatment
The legal system needs to be strengthened with longer sentences & stricter rehabilitation including mandatory drug testing inside & outside of jail & no further bail or reduced sentences for repeat offenders
How many more horrific tragedies will it take before crime & mental health with violence is taken seriously in Australia
Politicians & administrators are out of touch & overpaid & do not care about individual or community safety or the impact of crimes committed against innocent people & their families
Many complicated issues & no easy answers, harsher laws may not be the only answer but it's a catch 22 when not witnessing crimes that are prevented by keeping dangerous criminals behind bars & away from law abiding citizens who don't deserve to become innocent victims of violent crimes
Nah the police are to blame @@benjamin9120
How are you to catch a criminal when you're required by colleagues to keep your distance from them?
34:29 digusting that she tries to defend that. It clearly didn't work in this instances. In any other country, the Police would have rammed that car to stop it.
Yep, ram his car and see how many more are killed by the ramming. It's only in the movies everything works our okay. This incident happened in the real world.
So sick of hearing about bad policies both in Aus and Europe....who are the people making these policies?
Who gave them their positions? Why is no one ever held accountable for such policies and their outcomes?
It doesn't matter whether its in politics, the police, the government, large corporations, industries, commerce,
banking, social services, education on and on and on....no one is ever responsible?????????????
Let this be a lesson to all of us - failure after failure after failure and it culminated in the biggest failure of all. What judge in his right mind would give someone like him bail? I hope all the failed government agencies take a long hard look and maybe - although proven doubtful, they might learn something that will prevent another similar tragedy
the bail justice wasn’t given his police record.
straight out the bloke was a police informant
The bailor was also not a judge or even working in law. That needs to be changed. The bailor a part time teacher claims they never received the charge sheet nor the information.
The tragic part + most important emphasis regarding the whole ordeal was simply it could of been handed in such a more serious+ professional way. Victims+ their families must be so angry!.
True + interesting writing style = your comment.
A devastating tragedy that could have been avoided if police had’ve blown out his tyres. The police stuffed up big time to try and stop him. They had so many opportunities to take him down but they never tried to do it. And it also makes me wonder why was this insane guy out on bail? The Aussie justice system is backward. It’s too lenient and not harsh enough for real criminals.
you can't shoot at moving tyres on a car in the busiest part of the city and not expect a deflection or ricochet that could have killed one of the many by-standers in the area.
@@fonzaug3355cops shot him while behind the wheels that's why he lost control and killed people prove me wrong 😊
that car was driven with INTENT to harm innocent people. he swerved to make full contact. @@firstworldproblems6064
I can't emphasise what a truly disastrous person Christine Nixon is.All she ever did was look after her own interests and she was never a ''street cop''.
Nick Hanlon And yet any one of your street cops could have stopped this at any point. They can’t stop you intervening. Why didn’t they just stop him and deal with the consequences if they had to?
The cops did stop him, the courts let him go
Trying to justify bad policies that she probably put in place, disgrace.
she lied. im pretty sure they shot him while he was behind the wheeel thats why he lost control n killed people....
A real life horror story. There's people out there with blood on their hands.
So it's real life, not a story.
@@TerminusEst1982 A story can be either fiction or factual. Dictionary definition - Story - an account of imaginary or real people and events told for entertainment.
Unbelievable negligence by the PD. Shameful.
Great doc I will love if have sub captioning still love it
.Keep its up 👍👌👏
Police have to take responsibility too!
That pram stuck under his wheels will haunt me for the rest of my life.
Bit over the top🙄
@@victoryline5689 😂😂
@@alysskennedy8661 that person is waking up EVERY morning sweating and seeing that pram. People be so dramatic 🤦🏼♂️
@Anna McArdle Or ever lost a child. Very ignorant.
I can't help but wonder who paid his bail.
No one that dropped the ball epically
In Victoria where Gargasoulas committed his crimes, you do not pay to be released on bail. The offender need only make a promise they will attend court.
The moment when he appeared behind the news reporter.
And the news reporter couldn't believe it was him, after he drove away.
We really need to detach from the British justice system and create our own, away from old precedents etc...
Think things through, it won’t be easy.
You need to start taking corruption & the power of secret Orgs seriously & smash them to pieces. If you don't then it wont make any difference what you change.
2 main laws were changed after this incident.
I hate to say this but this is partly the police's fault.
Not individual police, somewhere back in policy making.
Absolutely Mike Boss, and don't feel bad for pointing that out.. we live in a flawed, corrupt, twisted world where we're told by government that we're lucky because it's a 'democracy', they just want obedience, and it goes beyond policy and systematic flaws in this case - individuals, or at least groups of individuals, made pissweak decisions that resulted in this waste of skin taking people's lives. Oh but wait, he's got schizophrenia and apparently feels bad now, hmmm well let's start making excuses for him and his actions. Please 🖕🖕🖕
I remember this day so well I was in primary school in year 6 I finish my work early and walked up to my teachers desk put my work down and said I’m finished she was watching something on her phone on 9 news I had a glimpse and it was a car doing doughnuts I had a dentist appointment that day so mum picked me up early we went to the dentist waited in the waiting room then one of the nurses run into the room and turned on the TV and it was the report of James. Nearly 5 years on I walk into the dentist I have the exact same feeling every time
Its Crazy How One Twisted HUman can change soo many lifes, all around the victims and general in whole country, the whole nation can be shaken by one event and behinde it - one man.
Im glad he only had a car, not like a 4x4 or some specially equiped car with some otyehr lethal things on it.
Mate, Vic pol got blood on their hands on this one, if I had my old hilux fourby with that arb bullbar on it , I would have rammed him no dramas. And got the jacks to pay for the panel damage too.
That volunteer bailsmen “that teacher” should be put in jail for their stupidity in approving his bail!
He claims that the police never showed him the list of Gargasoulas's past convictions.
If he didn't have the whole story, history, rap sheet etc, it's a but hard
So who lost their jobs for this? The bail justice if he ignored information? The police if they didn’t supply sufficient information? The policy setters?
this guy had mental and drug problems and yet it all happened after he was given bail for other serious crimes and charges a true menace to society
Bail hearings heard from volunteers with no qualifications OMG WTF is going on with the Melbourne judicial system
"Uphold the right" seems like a big bold statement to me.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LIFE AND DEATH HERE!!!
Guy was never told that you live your life , not because of the crap you
Have endured , but in spite of it all . A lot of folks just never made that transition .
I was in Melbourne CBD that day, just up on Russel St. Was crazy hearing it happen and seeing the city fall into chaos/lockdown. We all thought it was a terrorist attack to start with, scary times.
it was a terrorist attack
I'm shocked, truly, I don't know what to say about that other than I wish I hadn't seen it. Horrific.
Same. Completely unbelievable.
I got exactly the same type off abuse , my father and mother loved me but they did do this type off abuse to me , but I never not once thought to hurt people or hurt animals if anything it made me more gentle towards people and animals , I suppose you go either way good or bad !!! The thought off hurting a person is just to much to deal with I just can’t even imaging hurting a mouse 🐁
Take care brother❤️. You are very strong.
That's right Nicholas K., I cannot stand how people try and use this treatment in his childhood as a partial excuse for his actions. It DOES NOT excuse it, never will.. !!
There are thousands dudes out there just like him...
You mean millions
I am so disgusted and disturbed watching this. All those poor people that were failed by the people supposed to be protecting them RIP. I hope karma finds you to the fullest extent.
Maybe he was a police informer. Why else would the cops just let him off so many times. They were probably feeding him the drugs for information. Because as history has taught us that the Victorian police shoot first ask questions later. So to me it’s very sus that they didn’t shoot him dead by the third call. Do we think maybe the cops were a little corrupt. The mind boogles. My heart really goes out to the victims & their families, the people who had witnessed the horror unfold. Truly horrifying. And certainly PREVENTABLE…
He absolutely could have been stopped in Yarraville, there's a lot of narrow streets that are hard to navigate there, had they had two big cars up either end of a street he'd have had nowhere to go without severely damaging his car and they would have had him. Them saying they couldn't is a cop out and the fact that the higher ups didn't allow the police on the ground who were urging them to be allowed to do more to stop him out of fear for their own job prospects is absolutely shameful.
The lady is smiling while recounting horrific details? Something is wrong with that
The judges and lawyers who fight for these criminals and grant them bail are as much criminals and are to blame.
Terrible tragedy that could have been and must have been prevented.
The title says it all 'The making of'.
The programme says a lot more than the title. If you believe the title says it all, chances are that you're assuming the circumstances leading to the event are simple. RUclips comment threads are a wonderful place for reductive, fatuous opinions.
@@NxDoyle 'The programme' Yes ABC News is programming. 'Chances are that you're assuming'. You're assuming that I'm assuming. Let's do some more assuming. Chances are you assume that you saw a vehicle drive down Bourke Street on the programming. You didn't. No one has. RUclips comment threads are also a wonderful place for oxidative, perspicacious opinions.
Enjoy the programming Mr Doyle. I'll enjoy the show.
O well nobody told you to drone his country. KARMA IS A B*TCH
the title is for sheep like you. nobody MADE him do any of the things he did. Some liberal/progressive politicians certainly enabled his behavior with their idiotic policies, but he MADE his own choices, to do meth and be violent.
His “parents..” should be held accountable also.
Gets his first crack at parole age 75. Being a child killer it's more than likely he won't make it to that
I've just watched this now. What's even more worse is the fact that police are more keen on enforcement of masks then stopping thugs like these
We just had a guy here in the USA drive into a Christmas parade killng 6 hurting over 60 and guess what he was out on bail too. Happens all the time people with criminal history out on bail and still committing horrific crimes.
Yep! That's how victims who are weapons of MindControl are given special place in society. They are given the "Hands oFF" signal til mission accompished.
How many murderers & serial killers get out of prison early or bailed to then go on to murder.
Been happening for decades.
This couldn't happen today. They would've arrested him for not wearing a mask.
😂🤦🏻♂️ we got a jokester
So clever and funny
Those poor people lost their lives in the hands of a monster. Just because the police and justice system did nothing but watched I hope those heartless cowards live that for the rest of their life. Personally I lost faith in our justice system and the police. when I hear more stories like this I hate them more
Just appalling response by police and authorities to a very dangerous sociopath that should have been locked up detained long before this tragedy
Damn 3 month old baby 💔😢💔😢💔
I love these 4 corners reports but it's VERY frustrating when so many of them have comments turned off.
Well your in luck for this one isn’t.
Former Commissioner Nixon: it’s not like the police deliberately want to see people hurt…Talk about being blind to reality-inaction and cover-your-ass & career by never thinking outside the box-equals absolutely inadequate law enforcement. If you don’t face the reality of the failure, you can never fix the problem.
Blood on her hands she's corrupt now I hear with Williams case worst police commissioner vic ever had
Sucks my phone doesn't have subtitles since I couldn't understand a single word he said in the interrogation.
Just ask. If you can't understand an Australian accent, I'm sure plenty of people would be happy to help. Myself included.
Why wasn't he put in prison for attempted murder on the girlfriend
This guy was ill but also without çonscience..he probably faked the whole I'm Jesus thing to try to get off when he's about to kill all of those people
Even on meth they know better usually
This is when you need blokes like Roger Rogerson.
True that
Who's Roger Rogerson?
@@gregmckee4774 - Corrupt cop. Comes from the days when the police would have recognised what this guy was capable of and then put one in the back of his head, chained him to an engine block and then taken him for a swim. Sometimes the old ways can be the right ways.
@@aardvarkbiscuit2677 but blm says racist :( 😂😂😂
How did he keep getting girlfriends?? He didn't even try to hide the crazy and violence...but these women saw it and were like "Yeah, he seems like a *great* guy!"
Good looking bad boy type