The two color thing on the numbers looked great. I have always struggled with this issue with pixel fonts, our alphabet is annoying 😅 certain letter have to look weird or be wider than everything else. I might try the 2 color thing next time I do this.
one idea is to just not do some letters ;P e.g. combining U/V as they only became separate in the last couple hundred years, or writing W as literally double V (or U), W=VV, also I/J are often combined, but I don't think you need that with fonts, using two colors can be very helpful in e.g. manually aliasing stuff to make things more legible, I don't think having the confusable M/N combined, or left ambiguous, is all that bad either, "I don't have nuch noney right now, I'n sorry", "I saw am elephamt, amd it was great" you can still quite easily read it, they even sound quite similar after all, though, the smaller the size you go to, the less unique letter shapes there are, or rather, actually legible shapes you don't have to squint and try to guess at fun fact: VGA font, what BIOSes use (and on e.g. linux, also initial boot log), is generally about 8x9 pixels, and I can strongly recommend looking at the fonts on int10h (dot) com's retro font collection, for ideas about how people in the old days did pixel fonts (youtube sometimes hates when people put links in comments, often hiding those comments outright, for no good reason, just randomly, even creators have complained they themselves have sometimes trouble with links in comments, nobody knows when it happens, or why) Ken Perlin has basically the smallest ever font out there, though it's not really a usable/reable one funny thing, you can look up e.g. the 3x3 pixel font that is very barely readable, and...it's surprisingly possible to more or less read it, with some difficulty, when text is written with it, because you know what words are supposed to look like, so "Th??'s" you can figure out to be "There's", and so on
the whole gimmick of the letter W and M is that these are the two latin letters that takes up the most horizontal space out of all the 36 or so characters in the basic ASCII. while it is possible to have the M barely distinguishable in a 4x4 pixel font, the W is a weird one to design. in fact, in most other contexts with common fonts, you can definitely use a bunch of WWWWWW in addition to the usual lorem Ipsum to test out text spacing to see if enough stuff will fit the screens you're designing. the two colors solution works nicely, just remember to make sure the colors also works well when set to monochrome (taking brightness into account) to account for people who have a harder time seeing colors.
i made something really similar a few years ago; its really cool how different some of your interpretations of the letters look from mine even in such a small space!
Had the same experience, I thought everyone would come up with the exact same combination of pixels on a scale like that ... but it turns out people are pretty creative xD
The BIT.TRIP games use a 4x4 font, though it's only upper case and digits (which are 3x4), and does make M and W 5 pixels wide. You can find some unofficial versions that add in lower case letters and punctuation.
There is a thing i find interesting about people trying to make their own pixek fints, usually it looks like they try to make them for the characters rather than for the viewer "Arent these too big? Literally the size of his chest" you are the one reading, not your little guy so dont worry
Funny that this video appeared to me days after i finished making a font, which is very similar to the nokia cell phone, but i didnt use that one because it had things i didnt like, althoughi stole their version of G because mine sucked XD
i dont have a problem with the old a as much as i have with the lowercase e. the missing line at the bottom is really really distracting for me, and makes it a bit hard to read edit: i know it's hard to make it without doing the letter a pixel above, but the e just can't be like that for me :')
Yeah, I get that. I literally had to cut some corners there. I recently saw a different approach for an 'e' in that size, which is basically just rotating the 'a' 180°. Works pretty well and fixes that issue.
Maybe you could try using semi-transparent pixels? Similar to the two color font
I try not to use transparency as much, but just for the font, this is probably the most feasible approach. Thank you!
good video, your editing quality is good you will grow your channel in no time if you keep going
Thanks man, guess we will find out xD
The idea of using 2 colours are so cool! What a great inspiration on future development maybe
Haha 😅 people seem to like the two color thing. Thought it might look odd tbh
@@lucky-jacob it doesnt look odd to me at all!! seriously, you're onto something genius! Please pursue this path further!
let's see where the road leads :-P
The two color thing on the numbers looked great. I have always struggled with this issue with pixel fonts, our alphabet is annoying 😅 certain letter have to look weird or be wider than everything else. I might try the 2 color thing next time I do this.
Share somer pics if you do 😁
one idea is to just not do some letters ;P
e.g. combining U/V as they only became separate in the last couple hundred years, or writing W as literally double V (or U), W=VV, also I/J are often combined, but I don't think you need that with fonts, using two colors can be very helpful in e.g. manually aliasing stuff to make things more legible, I don't think having the confusable M/N combined, or left ambiguous, is all that bad either, "I don't have nuch noney right now, I'n sorry", "I saw am elephamt, amd it was great" you can still quite easily read it, they even sound quite similar after all, though, the smaller the size you go to, the less unique letter shapes there are, or rather, actually legible shapes you don't have to squint and try to guess at
fun fact: VGA font, what BIOSes use (and on e.g. linux, also initial boot log), is generally about 8x9 pixels,
and I can strongly recommend looking at the fonts on int10h (dot) com's retro font collection, for ideas about how people in the old days did pixel fonts
(youtube sometimes hates when people put links in comments, often hiding those comments outright, for no good reason, just randomly, even creators have complained they themselves have sometimes trouble with links in comments, nobody knows when it happens, or why)
Ken Perlin has basically the smallest ever font out there, though it's not really a usable/reable one
funny thing, you can look up e.g. the 3x3 pixel font that is very barely readable, and...it's surprisingly possible to more or less read it, with some difficulty, when text is written with it, because you know what words are supposed to look like, so "Th??'s" you can figure out to be "There's", and so on
the whole gimmick of the letter W and M is that these are the two latin letters that takes up the most horizontal space out of all the 36 or so characters in the basic ASCII. while it is possible to have the M barely distinguishable in a 4x4 pixel font, the W is a weird one to design. in fact, in most other contexts with common fonts, you can definitely use a bunch of WWWWWW in addition to the usual lorem Ipsum to test out text spacing to see if enough stuff will fit the screens you're designing.
the two colors solution works nicely, just remember to make sure the colors also works well when set to monochrome (taking brightness into account) to account for people who have a harder time seeing colors.
i love taking the approach of not doing research beforehand and trying to invent your own solution!
Has an idea > does some research > someone has already done it ... oh ... never mind ...
i made something really similar a few years ago; its really cool how different some of your interpretations of the letters look from mine even in such a small space!
Had the same experience, I thought everyone would come up with the exact same combination of pixels on a scale like that ... but it turns out people are pretty creative xD
The BIT.TRIP games use a 4x4 font, though it's only upper case and digits (which are 3x4), and does make M and W 5 pixels wide. You can find some unofficial versions that add in lower case letters and punctuation.
I'll check it out. Thanks!
There is a thing i find interesting about people trying to make their own pixek fints, usually it looks like they try to make them for the characters rather than for the viewer "Arent these too big? Literally the size of his chest" you are the one reading, not your little guy so dont worry
It's more about canvas size, I guess. The smaller the canvas the smaller the font needs to be.
Now add the Kana and Jouyou Kanji to the font! :D
xD let's go!
@@lucky-jacob And Korean letters also
밟핥꿺첂퇬
@@marksmithcollins
The m and doubleyou can be fixed with a 4 pixel render like so.
X X
XXXX
X X
X X
maybe, but what about the H?
Funny that this video appeared to me days after i finished making a font, which is very similar to the nokia cell phone, but i didnt use that one because it had things i didnt like, althoughi stole their version of G because mine sucked XD
Whenever I used a 4 pixel tall "E" I put the middle one on the top. It just looks a little off on the bottom but that might just be me.
🍅 / 🍅 I guess
@@lucky-jacobthis still is a great font though!
Thanks!
_maybe_
definitely
i dont have a problem with the old a as much as i have with the lowercase e. the missing line at the bottom is really really distracting for me, and makes it a bit hard to read
edit: i know it's hard to make it without doing the letter a pixel above, but the e just can't be like that for me :')
Yeah, I get that. I literally had to cut some corners there.
I recently saw a different approach for an 'e' in that size, which is basically just rotating the 'a' 180°. Works pretty well and fixes that issue.
really cool stuff! the lowercase 'e' could use some work though.
I'm open to suggestions here xD
@@lucky-jacobmaybe you could do what you did with the lowercase "g" and put a bottom line there
nice
Thanks
are there any license attached to the font?
not that I know of
I thought it said pixel fart at first😂
I just had an idea for an entirely new video xD
no can do read
It says so in the thumbnail 💁♂️
dont know cant read :)@@lucky-jacob
Haha 😂 going for the kill there 😭
Very nice video !
Thanks!!