How Brazil completely failed Marta, one of soccer's greatest players ever

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  • Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
  • Brazil's Marta is one of the greatest ever to play soccer. She gave her home country years and years of elite play, including some jaw-dropping moments of brilliance, yet she and Brazil never won a Women's World Cup.
    This episode of Untitled explores the obstacles that prevented Marta and company from hoisting the trophy. Those obstacles include critical moments on the field, like disastrous penalty kicks and one legendary United States header. The main, overarching obstacle, though, is Brazilian soccer infrastructure itself. From grassroots to pro leagues to the national team, soccer-playing girls and women in Brazil have never received the boost that built their male counterparts into great, Cup-winning sides. In fact, Brazilian women were banned from playing soccer for a huge chunk of the 20th century.
    Winning it all takes talent, timing, and institutional support. Marta always had the first thing and sometimes got the second thing, but never enjoyed the third. Brazilian soccer authorities failed Marta and her teammates. This is how it went down.
    Written and produced by Seth Rosenthal
    Edited by Jiazhen Zhang
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Комментарии • 951

  • @SecretBaseSBN
    @SecretBaseSBN  4 года назад +283

    This video now has a Portuguese subtitle option!

    • @victormedeiros3408
      @victormedeiros3408 4 года назад +7

      brabos

    • @medina2529
      @medina2529 4 года назад +6

      That's great! I'm a long-term enthusiast of SB Nation, but I fail to gather new Brazilian fans just for the only English videos.

    • @jeweetnietwieikben2050
      @jeweetnietwieikben2050 4 года назад +1

      Can you please do a cool ending from the eredivisie 2007 where the number 3 in coming the last round came first with one goal difference

    • @lucianog5430
      @lucianog5430 4 года назад +3

      I really don't know, but I think that get subs in spanish, portuguese and french (like half of the world), will improve your channel a lot. And I guess it's not so hard for you, even some subscribers could do it

    • @haitinatifnatal
      @haitinatifnatal 9 месяцев назад

      My question to you : Do you think Melchie Dumornay will surpass Marta when she gets healthy and come back to play? I honestly can see that happening . Tell me your opinion.

  • @lorenzodecabo3040
    @lorenzodecabo3040 4 года назад +1405

    There´s no better way to describe it: "Marta never won a World Cup for Brazil
    , because Brazil failed Marta."

    • @matheuscrepaldi6850
      @matheuscrepaldi6850 4 года назад +7

      Marta never won a world cup because she wasn't capable enough to win.

    • @oliver_ni
      @oliver_ni 4 года назад +83

      @@matheuscrepaldi6850 As if Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo won world cups...smh

    • @ulycha
      @ulycha 4 года назад +12

      I agree, however failing to score a penalty kick in any final is a pretty big failure if I may

    • @weirdofromhalo
      @weirdofromhalo 4 года назад +13

      @@ulycha But they would still have lost 2-1.

    • @JulioLeonFandinho
      @JulioLeonFandinho 4 года назад +36

      Exactly, football is a team game, teams of 11 players. One single player by himself can't win alone, it's phisically impossible. This is obvious but, because we are always caught in the narrative of the great players, usually forget it

  • @misternogood
    @misternogood 4 года назад +288

    14:28 "Cry in the beginning so you can smile in the end" is one of the realest things i've ever heard in my life. Legitimately one of the best sports quotes i've ever heard...

    • @jjmah7
      @jjmah7 Год назад +2

      I was trying to figure out what that meant exactly - is she saying to do the hard work at first so you can reap the benefits later?

    • @edwardr.1608
      @edwardr.1608 Год назад +3

      @@jjmah7 yes.

  • @Sports21all
    @Sports21all 4 года назад +741

    Perfect example of how football associations have robbed female footballers. The fact that they didn't properly support a team with the GOAT and Brazil was still able to do so much just leaves you wondering what could have been.

    • @franciscotavares4142
      @franciscotavares4142 4 года назад +40

      As a native, the only thing I can say is that Brazil is great at football BESIDES our football associatoin being extremely rotten and incompetent, and the women's team got the absolutely worse side possible of it

    • @mrivard81
      @mrivard81 4 года назад +12

      Robbed them how? Fact of the matter is, you can't make people care... Yeah, sure, women's soccer has a niche following, but it's several orders of magnitude smaller than the men's market is. And I got news for you, the size of the market for each sport has nothing to do with women's programs being underfunded. Because if that were the case, the USWNT wouldn't have just lost their lawsuit over "equal pay". Turns out that when you collectively bargain for your salaries, you then have no case to stand on for saying "we're not paid equally". Yeah we know, the women actually get a better deal than the men, even though the money pool is substantially larger on the male side.

    • @franciscotavares4142
      @franciscotavares4142 4 года назад +35

      @@mrivard81 wouldn't say robbed, but sabotaged them in every step of the way

    • @bryce354
      @bryce354 4 года назад +6

      @Joseph Van Horn You have no idea what you're talking about. ruclips.net/video/_OQ9B0WWaLY/видео.html

    • @cacs2201
      @cacs2201 4 года назад +17

      @Joseph Van Horn actually they were literally robbed... There are innumerous cases of corruption in our Brazilian football orgs, quite a lot of money that was supposed to go for the woman's team were robbed

  • @ruilopes6638
    @ruilopes6638 4 года назад +840

    Thanks SB nation. That was completely unexpected for me as a Brazilian. But that goes to show how undervalued those girls are around here. We end up expecting that no one cares. This video was full of real emotion as any of yours. I’m literally in tears because if there’s one team that deserved a better fate it was this generation.

    • @EdisonRizzato
      @EdisonRizzato 4 года назад +10

      Almost cried here too. Maybe I'm a little biased, but it was the better Untitled I saw. Great video.

    • @aaronhorowitz6942
      @aaronhorowitz6942 4 года назад

      Caralho eu arrepiei ... o video foi foda msm ...

    • @miamisportsculture2879
      @miamisportsculture2879 4 года назад +4

      Saw her play a small team in Boca Raton when she was with Rochester New York. She is the Pele of womens soccer in Brazil.

    • @jessejames9149
      @jessejames9149 4 года назад +1

      I still remember when Erica pretended to be hurt vs the US 2015 world cup, was carried off on a stretcher and then jumped off onto the field when the US was dominating. Lol 😂😂😂

    • @hajime2k
      @hajime2k 4 года назад

      @@jessejames9149 You mean in 2011, right? I remember that scene and I was angry at all the time that was wasted. Serves Brazil right that USA won.

  • @tielmaster7879
    @tielmaster7879 4 года назад +624

    I've been saying for years. If other nations invested in women's soccer the USWNT would not be as dominant. They'd still be top tier but not the landslide victories they have consistently.

    • @TheGeorgeD13
      @TheGeorgeD13 4 года назад +73

      Same with Men's soccer honestly. If the USA invested in Men's soccer, we'd be pretty damn good and top tier and maybe eve win a World Cup. As it is, we're struggling to even make the damn thing.

    • @tielmaster7879
      @tielmaster7879 4 года назад +99

      @@TheGeorgeD13 I think one of the major problems with the men's team is lack of competition in North America and thinking they're too good. As well as the pay to play system where young athletes just go to another sport.

    • @ryerock32
      @ryerock32 4 года назад +42

      @@TheGeorgeD13 In the case of men's soccer it's less investment and more just getting rid of incompetence and stubborness. There is a format that works for the majority of countries that absolutely churn out talent but instead we insist on trying to make it like other sports and wonder why we're not doing better than countries who have been honing this method for damn near a hundred years.

    • @DarklordZagarna
      @DarklordZagarna 4 года назад +23

      The big gap between the USWNT and other teams at this point is depth; their second 23 would be easily top 10 in the world, and you could easily see how much better their bench was than Holland's in the last world cup final.
      When-- and, I guess, if-- other countries professionalize their women's soccer programs, that won't last.

    • @TheGeorgeD13
      @TheGeorgeD13 4 года назад +4

      @@ryerock32 That's exactly the same as investment. Or at least what I meant when I said investment.

  • @jorelsomo9950
    @jorelsomo9950 4 года назад +96

    "Cry in the beginning so that you can smile in the end" Best quote ever

  • @Unova39
    @Unova39 4 года назад +352

    I'll never understand how any government with national pride could actively hinder women's sports like this, it's disgusting.

    • @lorenzodecabo3040
      @lorenzodecabo3040 4 года назад +33

      I´m from Argentina, and we have the same problems here. A country with the most passion for Soccer, but in the men´s side. I found out about the 11-0 defeat to Germany in 2007 thanks to this video. It's not only a government, is also the people who lives with an idea that "women´s football sucks".

    • @OhJustSomeRandomGuy
      @OhJustSomeRandomGuy 4 года назад +11

      I think when you see the dude who did it you realize that a man who dresses with his belt buckle at his nipples has no real idea of what pride should look like.
      @1:55

    • @DarklordZagarna
      @DarklordZagarna 4 года назад +17

      @@lorenzodecabo3040 Yeah, as badly as Brazil has treated their women's team, Argentina has somehow managed to do even worse-- they all but disbanded it in 2016. They did manage to qualify for the 2019 world cup and put up a brave showing there, but the team, outside of one or two players, lacked quality (essentially because they lacked adequate training and funding).
      These issues are not hard to solve. They just require resources (and not even that many resources, at that-- we're talking probably single-digit millions of dollars to adequately fund a professional women's national team, which is a drop in the bucket compared to most men's sports team budgets). Sometimes it's really that simple.

    • @lorenzodecabo3040
      @lorenzodecabo3040 4 года назад +5

      @@DarklordZagarna yeah, I agreed. At least I'm happy that a nacional team with literally no support from his confederation, make it to the finals , when his male part end up in the semis, only to lose 7-1.

    • @MrPandaGlobal
      @MrPandaGlobal 4 года назад

      neither do we, my friend.

  • @RaisinxBrand
    @RaisinxBrand 4 года назад +114

    That 2011 US vs Brazil game is still one of the best games I’ve ever watched tbh

    • @DarklordZagarna
      @DarklordZagarna 4 года назад +3

      The 2008 Olympic gold medal final was another amazing game-- incredibly tense back-and-forth, the highest stakes possible outside of a World Cup final, and eventually won in extra time by Carli Lloyd (who else?).
      At the time, I was rooting for the US team, of course, but in retrospect you wish Brazil could have broken through to claim at least one major championship. The players deserved it, even if their awful federation and government did not.

    • @giadap9501
      @giadap9501 4 года назад

      The ref was crappy though

    • @mydogsnameislucy768
      @mydogsnameislucy768 4 года назад +7

      The women's games can often be more fun to watch because they rely more on skill than speed and power making the games look a lot more fluid. 👌

    • @EverythingSports15
      @EverythingSports15 4 года назад

      Yep

  • @allie_veto
    @allie_veto 4 года назад +178

    I cried when I first saw her post-game speech. I encourage anyone to watch the whole speech, its amazing.
    If anyone lives near the Orlando area, go watch Marta play at an Orlando Pride game! (whenever we're allowed to again)

    • @Celicagame13
      @Celicagame13 4 года назад

      Alana O. I do and I have, she doesn’t have it any more

    • @allie_veto
      @allie_veto 4 года назад +13

      @@Celicagame13 I have to disagree with you. I think its unfortunate that the team has been at the bottom of the standings lately, but it is still a joy to watch her play. I've seen her play for Brazil several times, and I would encourage anyone to see her play for the national team, if they get the opportunity.

    • @burgandyngoldforlife8199
      @burgandyngoldforlife8199 4 года назад +9

      @@allie_veto I watch every game with her on the pitch ... Only here in America their coach is dumb enough and some players dumb enough not to play through her. Her field knowledge and ability to pass is underrated. Only here in the USA does a Ali Kreger take a shot at goal while Marta is in the box. Only here do you pass 6x times and she not receive a touch. Only here in America can someone say she hasn't got it while Alex Morgan sucks the life out the air. Only here in America can you say 6x women's Ballon d'Or hasn't got it while another person who didn't score a single goal nor assist all year for there club gets placed on best 11... NWSL shame on you for not promoting the sport. Shame on all soccer nations not valuing 60% of the worlds population enough to fund it.

    • @C-Lightning
      @C-Lightning 4 года назад

      I wish. Too bad I do not live in Orlando and that, the league has been canceled till further notice

    • @goranmilic442
      @goranmilic442 2 года назад +2

      he only reason why Marta is famous around the world is because she's called Marta and that's easy to remember. There are far better players than her, like Miedema, but that's not a name easy to remember. Everything is in the name.

  • @alexsander2112
    @alexsander2112 4 года назад +146

    This video just made me cry. Thanks very much, SB Nation, for this amazing content. How I wish Brazilian media gave Marta as much credit as you just did.

    • @weregretohio7728
      @weregretohio7728 4 года назад +13

      And throwing up again because people like Trump and Bolsanaro not only exist, but are given power over others.

    • @DarklordZagarna
      @DarklordZagarna 4 года назад +3

      She's arguably one of the ten best female athletes of all time, although it's always hard to make cross-sport comparisons (and we'll never know how good someone like Florence Griffith Joyner would have been if the whole of athletics at the time hadn't been riddled with drug cheats-- she was cheating, but so was everyone else). I'm trying to think of who I'd put in front of her... probably Katie Ledecky and Lindsey Vonn, Krisztina Egerszegi, Larisa Latynina, Valentina Vezzali, maybe Lisa Leslie or Diana Taurasi... that's about it. Maybe Mary T. Meagher and Janet Evans if you don't mind overrepresenting the swimmers. An interesting exercise, but ultimately a frustrating one since so many great women athletes have cut short their careers due to lack of support.
      At any rate, it's ridiculously stupid that such a generational talent was left to toil in obscurity for so long.

    • @mrsb50
      @mrsb50 4 года назад +2

      Paul Thomas I’d throw Simone Biles into the mix since gymnastics is on the table, probably above Latynina even though her accomplishments and longevity were incredible

    • @DarklordZagarna
      @DarklordZagarna 4 года назад +2

      @@mrsb50 That's fair. No question she'd be on the list if she wins a bunch of medals in Tokyo. In Olympic sports I tend to value repeating a lot more than just dominating one Games. But Biles has done so much work at Worlds, etc that she deserves to be on there even if she gets hurt or whatever and doesn't dominate a second Olympics.
      Speaking of repeat champions, you could make an argument for Kaori Icho too-- I believe she's the only four-time back to back champion in the same event ever on the women's side, although I might be misremembering that. As impressive as that is, though, my sense is that women's wrestling in its early days was not as competitive as the other sports I mentioned-- the US didn't even start taking it seriously until the mid-2010s.

    • @mrsb50
      @mrsb50 4 года назад +1

      Paul Thomas totally, if you’re going by Olympic medals then I get it. Given that Biles became age eligible the year after 2012 and has to wait at least a year longer for what would’ve been 2020, it’s really only bad timing that’s keeping her medal count low (by her standards). She got second in an early 2013 competition but hasn’t lost since then, neither domestically nor internationally. I can’t stress how much better she is than the rest of the field, and she’s only continued to improve year after year.
      (It sounds like you know all of this already but I thought it was worth repeating for anyone who’s unfamiliar with her dominance.)
      I don’t know anything about women’s wrestling, in comparison, so I’ll need to read up on Kaori Icho!

  • @kicking222
    @kicking222 4 года назад +115

    THANK YOU! When you initially introduced the series, my very first thought was Marta. I can't tell you how much I appreciate your videos on women's sports, even if they don't get as many views. A lot of people are ignorant when it comes to amazing female athletes- if not actively hindering them, as shown here- and the best way to change that is to keep spotlighting them.

    • @toritwopointoh
      @toritwopointoh 4 года назад +13

      i just wanted to echo this. these series on women's sports are so fantastic. they talk about women's sports seriously and discuss it with the prestige that is normally only reserved for men. its incredibly refreshing and enjoyable to watch, especially because these stories haven't been told as well before

    • @sebastianbaumgartner827
      @sebastianbaumgartner827 4 года назад +1

      There are legends like charles barkley allen iverson randy moss karl malone messi ronaldo and many more and the first one you thought about was some girl who plays soccer on the level of a 16 year old boy?

    • @Sukuun
      @Sukuun 3 года назад +2

      @@sebastianbaumgartner827 is it fun, being a psychopath?

    • @goranmilic442
      @goranmilic442 2 года назад +1

      @@toritwopointoh It's great that people discuss women's sports just as seriously as men's, but fact still remains - the only reason why Marta is famous around the world is because she's called Marta and that's easy to remember. There are far better players than her, like Miedema, but that's not a name easy to remember. Everything is in the name.

  • @MannyBiggz
    @MannyBiggz 4 года назад +221

    Well this was probably the most depressing entry in this series so far.

  • @tottoroz
    @tottoroz 4 года назад +47

    What an AMAZING video! As a brazilian it's such a shame to have these awesome players being so mistreated. You have summarized so well I feel this video should also have a portuguese audio, because we are the ones mostly in need to learn about these stories. All in all, you did amazing! ❤

  • @brandonblanco8379
    @brandonblanco8379 4 года назад +567

    Do one with Gianlugi Buffon not winning a champions league.

    • @sandoc9
      @sandoc9 4 года назад +23

      Brandon Blanco he’s still playing so we have to wait until he retires

    • @torachan23
      @torachan23 4 года назад +10

      Champions League isn’t as singular and huge as a World Cup

    • @BoxOfOranges84
      @BoxOfOranges84 4 года назад +74

      @@torachan23 not winning a CL is probably more comparable to the other "Untitled" in other sports since it's annual. It's normal for great players to never win a WC because you only get 2/3 good chances if you're lucky

    • @tommasoali7617
      @tommasoali7617 4 года назад +7

      Zlatan as weel

    • @gianniverschueren870
      @gianniverschueren870 4 года назад +2

      @@sandoc9 Marta is still playing as well

  • @ADAJ3KINGANGEL
    @ADAJ3KINGANGEL 4 года назад +186

    Marta’s interview after bowing out was incredible!

    • @moviegal6000
      @moviegal6000 4 года назад +8

      Omg it was incredible. I was bawling then and I bawled now. A world class player putting out the call to young female athletes everywhere.

  • @CheapAbyss
    @CheapAbyss 4 года назад +28

    I love how willing SB Nation is to dive in and give the spotlight to women's sports. There are so many stories that would fit this series (and all the others tbh) on the women's side as well, outside the "major" sports in America. There's still so much content to explore.

  • @abdoulayecamara8077
    @abdoulayecamara8077 4 года назад +22

    “Cry in the beginning so you can smile in the end” powerful stuff for real

  • @tarihanchaveiromartins7233
    @tarihanchaveiromartins7233 4 года назад +100

    Thats exactly what happened. Here in Brasil we all watch WWC with passion and suport but the federation always was a problem. Marta is a godess and an idol but with no support it cant be done!

  • @samcipparrone5389
    @samcipparrone5389 4 года назад +904

    Once Messi retires you gotta do a World Cup one on him

  • @leonardoterra1900
    @leonardoterra1900 4 года назад +53

    Its awesome to see a foreigner youtube channel praising one of the best athletes my country has ever seen, but it saddens me to see the complete disdain of the goverment to seek to improve the conditions for the women soccer, thank you for all of you guys on SB Nation, to put light and celebrate one of our greatest athletes, as a brazillian native it gives me joy to see this. Thank you and excuse my poor english rs

    • @mrsb50
      @mrsb50 4 года назад +1

      leonardo terra your English isn’t poor at all-it’s great! ❤️

    • @drmorcoch9338
      @drmorcoch9338 4 года назад

      i am person who instinctively doesn't easily believe in anything i watch or hear and sometimes even when i've seen it with my own eyes. when the narrator calls someone misogynist... well, that's an easy red flag to me!

  • @pennavedc
    @pennavedc 4 года назад +14

    My absolute favorite episode EVER. Please submit this for any and all award consideration. It made me tear up.
    And I bought a Marta brasil jersey.

  • @samuelvieira1162
    @samuelvieira1162 4 года назад +17

    As a brazilian, that video teared my heart apart. But I know that the legend of Marta will forever live on!!! Thanks, SB Nation! Obrigado, Rainha!!!

  • @s4nnybunny04
    @s4nnybunny04 4 года назад +12

    Wow. This is the best Untitled so far. Sad and moving. Well done SB Nation.

  • @vladimpaler3498
    @vladimpaler3498 Год назад +5

    FIFA should have a rule that if a country fails to pay the promised amount to its women's team the men's team is barred from any international competition. Also, if the investment in the women's team is less than 72% of the men's team the men's team is barred. Then see what happens.

  • @kentgarcia5656
    @kentgarcia5656 Год назад +7

    Sad that they failed her, yet again. Poor Marta.

  • @billymcdonnell11
    @billymcdonnell11 4 года назад +47

    14:17. I’ll show this to my son when he comes of age... if I have a daughter even more fitting... this is the definition of greatness. Through all that women’s team went through it’s pretty amazing how they even managed to get a decent squad together honestly.

  • @gdionwood
    @gdionwood Год назад +7

    What an Amazing Icon! My favourite Brazilian player after Pele and tied with Cafu! Her dedication to a corrupt country that failed her over and over brings tears to my eyes! Imagine what she would've accomplished had she made the decision to get Swedish citizenship, and play for a country where true sportsmaship flourished!

  • @Victormpedott
    @Victormpedott 4 года назад +6

    Finally Marta having the credit she deserves. It's really common for men in Brazil to joke about women's football saying that it's slow and boring, but they never realize that the men's national team in our country have had much MUUUUUUUUUUCH more incentive and investment in the sport to be even more disappointing than the women's national team.

  • @InterloperBob
    @InterloperBob 4 года назад +8

    This is so much more tragic than the other videos in the series. She did everything right and spent the prime of her life to master the sport, and she came up short for no fault of her own.

    • @mrsb50
      @mrsb50 4 года назад +2

      Will Keve she may have come up short in not winning a World Cup, but her legacy is already much more significant than that. I think her story will ultimately be one of empowerment, not tragedy ❤️

  • @raf42
    @raf42 4 года назад +12

    This is an amazing piece, one of the best "serious" ones your channel has ever put out. Please make more like this!

  • @emersongalli5184
    @emersongalli5184 4 года назад +103

    Awesome video, I was just watching Untitled of Allen Iverson minutes ago, this channel is simply amazing. And It is true that Brazil failed Marta and the girls big time, for you guys to have an idea of how Brazilian Soccer Federation had a complete disregard for the girls. Only in 2018 they established a championship for female Brazilian teams. Men's soccer receive too much to embarrass the country like in 2014 against Germany. The girls suffered years even before Bolsonaro came in. Men don't support women when It comes to sports here, even when FIFA 18 brought female players to the game, lots of men here complained and made awful jokes about women's soccer. You guys said It best, "Brazil failed Marta." Not only Marta, but Brazil failed every female player. Every companies related to soccer snubbed the girls for decades, they are only acknowledging them now. Congratulations for this amazing video.

    • @doctorpepper3343
      @doctorpepper3343 4 года назад +4

      What does Bolsonaro have to do with this topic? The girls "suffered" while the corrupt communists know as the PT were in power. Lula and Dilma were in control during the entire time period discussed in this video.
      Why didn't Lula invest more money in women's soccer? He is surely a misogynist...

    • @emersongalli5184
      @emersongalli5184 4 года назад +9

      @@doctorpepper3343 I agree with you, that's what I was saying, this disregard for women's soccer goes a long way before Bolsonaro came to power. When PT had power women's soccer almost didn't exist.

  • @rjhaney2614
    @rjhaney2614 4 года назад +18

    Love this one. I especially liked how it felt like there were two stories going. Marta vs. the world and Marta vs. Brazil. Great job on this one guys. Can we get the Sedins next?

  • @oalbuquerque2899
    @oalbuquerque2899 3 года назад +6

    I love that internationally they call Getúlio Vargas a dictator (as he was) and in Brazil he is seen almost as a hero.

  • @A2TRaNQuiLiiTy
    @A2TRaNQuiLiiTy 4 года назад +11

    Im Half Brazilian. Shes the greatest female player of all time individually. U.S has the best collective talent, but the best individual talent and "Joga Bonito" skill is def Marta. Even against the duels against the U.S Marta was the best player on the field, and outisde Christiane, she really had no collective help. U.S is not as talented or flashy but the fundamental playing style of the U.S which is based on team exectution from multiple players and defense is why the U.S is the greatest team in Womens soccer of all time. We came close so many times to beating them, so the ability was there but not enough team effort, even one exhibition game the U.S came back from like 3 goals down, So I question even heart from Brazil. But not Marta.
    After the 2011 World Cup where she balled out, and Neymar was still 19, I remember the men struggling either in a tournmanet or exhibition and the crowd starting chanting for Marta. She has the peoples support, but the government support is still backwards. They think they in Saudi Arabia.
    Bless Marta. Goat.

  • @joaopedroramos4015
    @joaopedroramos4015 4 года назад +34

    Thanks for this video. As a brazilian, even here, we don't know all the complications that woman's soccer suffer, because the media wants to talk about men's soccer and other sports that also men play in it.

  • @ryerock32
    @ryerock32 4 года назад +23

    Not gonna lie I cried a little when I heard her speech

  • @JordanDalmedo
    @JordanDalmedo 4 года назад +13

    I'd like this 200 more times if I could. Love this type of content with women's soccer as the subject.

  • @EstebanUNSC
    @EstebanUNSC Год назад +4

    Sad for Marta but her class today to congratulate Jamaica shows how she moved the sport. A GOAT in my book

  • @Arthutstut641
    @Arthutstut641 4 года назад +13

    Vargas:
    Gives women right to vote.
    Takes away their right of having fun.
    Welcome to my stupid country.

  • @filipe0305
    @filipe0305 4 года назад +66

    Marta was the biggest star of a great generations of brazilian female footballers that had their well deserved recognition despite what the country offered her. Brazilian federation is guilty of everything you said in the video but their harm to brazilian football goes even deeper and hits brazilian male squad (7x1 could have been avoided if they didn’t hire a washed out coach in felipão, for example) and brazilian teams (some bigger teams are taking a stand now against them). The football teams can survive even when playing terrible football for brazilian standards. The male squad lost a lot of support from people and is struggling to have this interest back. But for the female squad, this can be fatal. We don’t seem to have another good generation coming due to the lack support and, even though players like marta took a brave stand and made some changes (like some big football clubs having now female teams), unfortunately the brazilian football federation just doesn’t care enough. They are destroying brazilian football little by little (lots of recent federation’s former presidents are in jail and banished from football forever). Thank you for this video as it put some light on the dark side of brazilian football. These women are heroes and inspiration for brazilian people for fighting against adversities and speaking up against injustices. Marta is our biggest football hero in this century.

  • @djspflytnt
    @djspflytnt 4 года назад +25

    We Americans have to realize how important Title IX was in creating our global domination in many womens' sports. Women just need to be given an equal chance.

    • @chekhov4215
      @chekhov4215 4 года назад

      That's the reason why we've won twice the amount of women's world cup titles as any other country.

  • @andyalexisvasquez4082
    @andyalexisvasquez4082 Год назад +4

    Watching this after brazil was eliminated in the group stages 😢

  • @komiteunofficialaccount9224
    @komiteunofficialaccount9224 Год назад +5

    They really failed Marta, one last time.

  • @joelgonzalez2695
    @joelgonzalez2695 4 года назад +26

    This was the best of the series so far. Congrats.

  • @TheJanvicgwaps
    @TheJanvicgwaps 4 года назад +8

    "Cry in the beginning so you can smile in the end"
    😭

  • @superfluouslyme
    @superfluouslyme 2 года назад +3

    I remember watching her speech a few years ago and crying along with her. Thank you, Secret Base, for this amazing video on a truly special player.

  • @alizah8042
    @alizah8042 4 года назад +8

    Loved the video. When I watched the 2019 World Cup I was ashamed to realize I had never even heard of Marta before her last tournament, but it was amazing to watch her play. Thank you!

  • @leonardobahia2151
    @leonardobahia2151 4 года назад +61

    I didn’t expect a vídeo talking about Marta and Brazil to be honest.However,you showed the truth about how bad CBF handles women’s football,wasting Marta’s awesome talent.Oh,and thanks a lot by the description of Bolsonaro, a horrible human being

  • @lucasraphaeliannogueira2589
    @lucasraphaeliannogueira2589 4 года назад +21

    the photo of the team after the 2007 final have a poster and the say :"brazil we need suport"

  • @MrSdasf
    @MrSdasf 3 года назад +3

    i cried watching this. thanks from brazil, this legend deserves recognition.

  • @justinchetham-strode5234
    @justinchetham-strode5234 9 месяцев назад +3

    Marta is the only female football mega star to date. Although the women's game has improved immensely over the past couple of decades, and players and teams have improved out of sight, there have been no other players with the magic that she has. She is comparable with the Peles, Maradonas, and Cruyffs of the men's game, and stands head and shoulders above all others. It would have been wonderful to crown her career with a World title, but sadly she joins the ranks of those who missed out.

  • @guycalledjoe
    @guycalledjoe 4 года назад +21

    I've really loved how of late the channel has covered more women's sports! It's fantastic and they (particularly this and Candace Parker's dunk video) provide great factual insight to how across countries stereotypes and misogynistic views have damaged women's sports and it's perception. Great job and keep 'em coming.

    • @chekhov4215
      @chekhov4215 4 года назад +1

      Yeah, it's great that they don't forget.

  • @adriancolangelo3225
    @adriancolangelo3225 4 года назад +14

    Untitled video of Henrik and Daniel Sedin

  • @G-Man78
    @G-Man78 8 месяцев назад +2

    That speech for the camera at the end. Damn, i felt that 😢

  • @Fantusta
    @Fantusta 4 года назад +3

    This was one of the best and most powerful episodes of any SBNation yet, and I don't even care about soccer

  • @komiteunofficialaccount9224
    @komiteunofficialaccount9224 Месяц назад +2

    I said they failed Marta one last time. Can't believe Brazil had one more in them.

  • @torobeb
    @torobeb 2 года назад +3

    man, it says a lot about this situation that I had to, as a brazilian, watch a foreign video in another language to come to know just how much those girls and women had to endure, it really saddens me to think that it all might just keep stagnated in this situation

  • @loveRoarke
    @loveRoarke 3 года назад +4

    Marta is amazing, it’s such a shame she has not received the support she deserves!

  • @weregretohio7728
    @weregretohio7728 4 года назад +58

    7-1
    Tney should have invested in the women's team.

    • @BOS_C.O.
      @BOS_C.O. 4 года назад +3

      Facts while we're at it might as well do the same for the US men's for losing to Trinidad

    • @zaxx29
      @zaxx29 4 года назад +7

      @@BOS_C.O. I think for the US it's a culture issue. Most people who are younger don't play soccer unless it's organized by their school or they join a league. Most aren't just playing for fun like they are with basketball and football.

    • @BOS_C.O.
      @BOS_C.O. 4 года назад +1

      @@zaxx29 That and from what I've read the way the whole system was built just makes it difficult for kids to pursue a pro career.

    • @KazeShikamaru
      @KazeShikamaru 4 года назад

      @@BOS_C.O. Yeah it is annoying.

    • @KazeShikamaru
      @KazeShikamaru 4 года назад

      Maybe a little investment would be nice after that 7-1 beatdown.

  • @hiranom20
    @hiranom20 10 месяцев назад +2

    Brazil not winning the 2007 WWcup is still one of the game's great tragedies...

  • @maryjennings4913
    @maryjennings4913 4 года назад +6

    Mark Martin, from NASCAR would be an interesting selection for this series.

    • @ahogg5960
      @ahogg5960 2 года назад +1

      You should watch the excellent series by RUclipsr slapshoes on this exact topic called The Mark Martin Apologetics Tour

  • @seriomarkj
    @seriomarkj 3 года назад +2

    I remember watching the men brazil team play and struggle at some point in time and the croud was chanting "we want marta" but she still didn't get the support she deserved...and hardly the respect either

  • @BadutPesta
    @BadutPesta 4 года назад +4

    Talent wins you individual awards.
    Teamwork wins you championship.

  • @realroll4550
    @realroll4550 4 года назад +3

    "cry at the beginning to smile at the end" powerful

  • @kristenmork4316
    @kristenmork4316 4 года назад +1

    I was not expecting such a direct answer to the question posed. I had expected discussion of something soccer-specific: formations or the like. I knew that the real answer was misogyny, and I was overjoyed to see you state so without qualification. Thank you!

  • @FingeringThings
    @FingeringThings 4 года назад +41

    Do one on Johan Cruyff or Arjen Robben, the dutch can't catch a break

    • @sportyfc1022
      @sportyfc1022 4 года назад

      Fingering Things ✔️
      nor the Spanish, they just suck when they have a chance to win
      And as an American myself, I feel their pain

    • @aroobism
      @aroobism 4 года назад +1

      I mean johan only participated in one World Cup

    • @billymcdonnell11
      @billymcdonnell11 4 года назад +2

      Sporty FC 2008. 2010. 2012. 2013. And that’s just the recent ones.... they had won before once.... honestly what are you on? Give us some...

    • @aroobism
      @aroobism 4 года назад

      John Dogan wait what?

    • @sportyfc1022
      @sportyfc1022 4 года назад +1

      John Dogan
      The Spanish have a tendency to be upset or play poorly when it really matters or lose in heartbreakers
      But with that said, the US don’t make it (they lost to Trinidad and Tobago when trying to qualify)
      I respect the Spanish, but I think they should probably win a title soon with what they have in the roster
      I’m not Spanish, but this is just my opinion (I don’t mind If you roast the US, I think they suck)

  • @randalls9822
    @randalls9822 4 года назад +1

    Got a chance to meet with several of the 2008 USWNT players while working at a hotel near Chicago. When I asked about who was the toughest player they had to face, all the women said that Marta was by far and away the toughest player in the world because she could score with any boot and run forever.

  • @Bulbaczar
    @Bulbaczar 4 года назад +4

    Really great ep. Marta's a legend.

  • @bernardopimenta5478
    @bernardopimenta5478 4 года назад +2

    You guys hit jackpot with the women's football analysis in Brazil, well done! I just wanted to add that it's not only female football tha suffers from that, although the disparity between men's and women's footbal is the most egrigeous one. All sports suffer form underfinancing because men's football receives so much attention, as the footbal country all other sports are largely left aside. With opportunities for government funding and sponsorshis for other sports depending largely on independent success storys, such as Marta's and the women's team on her hayday, to become famous and then inject money that stops as soon as the sucess stops. All in all great video as usual! Cheers from a brazilian fan!

    • @DarklordZagarna
      @DarklordZagarna 4 года назад

      I wouldn't quite go that far. Brazil's great in volleyball, too. Also, Magic: the Gathering, if you want to count that as a sport... lol.
      (You are, however, generally correct that Brazil hasn't punched up to its weight due to myopic over-focus on men's soccer.)

    • @duffman18
      @duffman18 Год назад

      ​@@DarklordZagarna Brazil also dominates in motorsports, and athletes like Ayrton Senna are comparable to Brazilian football players in how beloved they are. But that's such a difficult thing to get into because you have to be wealthy to get anywhere in motorsports, and Brazil has such awful wealth disparity that it's always gonna be a struggle for most, even there. But yeah, motorsports are 2nd only to football, in Brazil, it seems.

  • @redsox0213
    @redsox0213 Год назад +4

    This is sad. I remember watching Marta just destroy folks. Her not winning one to me is worse than if Messi or Ronaldo don't. Formiga 7 world Cups!!! Wtf!

  • @raf42
    @raf42 4 года назад +1

    I was lucky enough to get to see Marta play in person, vs South Korea in the 2015 World Cup. She's so dominant, and was a joy to watch. It's tragic just how much she got screwed over by Brazil (not to mention all her teammates who got just as screwed, while making far, FAR less income).

  • @People_of_the_Mouse
    @People_of_the_Mouse Год назад +3

    The goat has finally retired. No more will she abuse and terrorize players across the universe. We are lucky to have watched her.

  • @zanne_imonluamen
    @zanne_imonluamen 3 месяца назад +1

    That 2011 usa Vs brazil game is one of the best in women's world cup history. I would love to see a breakdown of that game from you guys🤞🏾

  • @a_bb_a6356
    @a_bb_a6356 4 года назад +12

    This’ll be Messi in a few years. Immensely talented player on a great team, but never won anything of note with the national team

    • @aroobism
      @aroobism 4 года назад +3

      To be fair he still has one more chance

    • @natirasohumana
      @natirasohumana 4 года назад

      But not for the same reason. For negligence, lack of support.

    • @sicilianjoe
      @sicilianjoe 4 года назад +1

      #GonzaloHiguaín

    • @vimaln6613
      @vimaln6613 4 года назад +1

      The Argentina squad is way too top heavy to win international titles. Their squad on paper reminds me of the analogy, "A Ferrari's Engine in a City car". Brilliant Offence but lackluster defense. Their best defender is Otamendi For crying out loud.

    • @aroobism
      @aroobism 4 года назад

      LaV72 they did have a excellent defensive coach in 14 which is why they won all there games by one goal or fewer and honestly don’t just look at 18 and 14 look at the years before that those teams were loaded that 06 squad needs more attention in the messi era they had 3 really good chances on paper and failed

  • @eastmidwest11700
    @eastmidwest11700 4 года назад +1

    Make a whole docu series about Marta. This is inspiring.

  • @RollOnToVictory
    @RollOnToVictory 4 года назад +3

    I don't know what it is.... but there's something so condescending and annoying about the narrator guy's voice.

  • @marxrubronegro9677
    @marxrubronegro9677 3 года назад +2

    As a brazilian I feel very confortable to agree with every single word said here. The only thing I should point out is that there's a pervasive view here that great players come from adversity. Well, It's true that we created great talents both from men and women football that grew up kicking rocks in the streets, but once this talent is created and discovered, the men are payed living wages. The women still need to keep their day job while playing.

  • @Ramboost007
    @Ramboost007 4 года назад +5

    1:57 that is the highest I've ever seen a grandpa belt

  • @el4121
    @el4121 3 года назад +1

    great video!! and thank you again for covering women’s sports. a lot of sports channels completely ignore them and it really does mean a lot to have them represented :))

  • @danillospindola696
    @danillospindola696 4 года назад +3

    I'm crying with this video

  • @ik1768
    @ik1768 2 года назад +2

    all those people who treat women's soccer as a joke should see this. That speech at the end had me in tears...

  • @mara10na4ever9
    @mara10na4ever9 4 года назад +4

    Love the football/soccer content we need some more beef history for the beautiful game

  • @OriginalGrasshopper
    @OriginalGrasshopper 4 года назад +1

    I got to see Marta play in person many times here in Sweden when she was with Tyresö. She completely dominated the league!

  • @DuceIRae
    @DuceIRae 4 года назад +3

    Damn it.. how does a sports video about womens soccer make me cry.. i dont even like soccer.. she deserved far more.

  • @JulioJunior1974
    @JulioJunior1974 8 месяцев назад +2

    As we say here, Marta is on the same shelf of Messi and CR7 , Marta GOAT

  • @muhammadakmalbasyhaazis3294
    @muhammadakmalbasyhaazis3294 4 года назад +13

    video ideas
    "Steven Gerrard never won a Premier League. Here's what left him empty-handed."
    "Lionel Messi never won a World Cup. Here's what left him empty-handed."
    "Gianluigi Buffon never won a Champiuons League. Here's what left him empty-handed."
    "Beef History: Arsenal vs Tottenham"
    "Rewinder: Lucas Moura's second half hattrick vs Ajax"

    • @Kaustic26
      @Kaustic26 4 года назад +1

      Watching Lucas finish that last one and seeing the emotion on pochettino’s face still gives me shivers

  • @AraMintayo
    @AraMintayo Год назад +2

    Yo man… this made me
    Cry. Damn❤

  • @comeonoverandshootit
    @comeonoverandshootit 4 года назад +3

    man, this is the saddest episode of untitled yet
    8:19 that sounds painfully familiar

  • @enmorot
    @enmorot 4 года назад +1

    This video alone was worth the subscription. Well done SB nation, well done indeed!

  • @Sports21all
    @Sports21all 4 года назад +25

    🐐

  • @KD555
    @KD555 10 месяцев назад +2

    Not much in the comments about her 6th and final WC this year. Sadly there's not much to say about it.

  • @estevaogiordani8837
    @estevaogiordani8837 4 года назад +3

    Wow, great video!

  • @TheAnimerunner
    @TheAnimerunner 4 года назад +1

    She was in 5 World Cups, damn. Totally, did not realize Marta was on that 2003 team. I thought 2007 was her debut. Man though, I remember that infamous post game interview. The live feed didn't have it translated initially, but it almost didn't matter cause you could feel the passion and urgency in her words.

  • @TheBeerPops
    @TheBeerPops 4 года назад +15

    The answer is easy: USWNT absolute domination of international football
    Yes, other national teams are pretty good but if the USWNT had the dominance of the Men's team, Marta would most likely have several World Cups

    • @fisher2536
      @fisher2536 4 года назад +5

      "dominance of the men's team"

    • @brianmiller1077
      @brianmiller1077 4 года назад +2

      That was my initial thought on seeing the title, but as the last line says - "Brazil failed Marta"

    • @TheBeerPops
      @TheBeerPops 4 года назад

      @@fisher2536 that's the joke...

  • @jeremyseaton3314
    @jeremyseaton3314 Месяц назад +1

    Marta really needs a movie made of her.

  • @ChrisDodges123
    @ChrisDodges123 4 года назад +5

    14:08 Damn thats deep

  • @sheistyindividual
    @sheistyindividual Месяц назад +1

    the japan vs. brazil match was a microcosm of her int'l career. she goes out at 84mins up 1-0 then japan scores two goals in 15minutes to lose 1-2. ridiculous.

  • @zwebackshyper9307
    @zwebackshyper9307 4 года назад +12

    can you do a gerrard untitled for the premiere league as a liverpool fan it hurts that he never won but it would make for a really good video

  • @lhdesouza3614
    @lhdesouza3614 4 года назад +2

    As a Brazillian, I agree with most of this video. Trough many presidents, most of them Left-Winged, we did not sponsor many sports, not only women soccer. However, Bolsonaro didn't affect Brazil's women team simply because it's female, as it seems since you called him "mysoginistic". All Brazillian sports were affected because we have more serious economic problems, we can't afford sponsor a lot of sports, not only Women's Soccer.
    You guys do a great work and I really like "Untitled", but this time, you were political, in first place.