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I have always respected Prof Lumumba and I have to once again applaud him here. I was born in South Africa in 1961 and grew up in an Apartheid country so I know what it feels like to be oppressed
@@tmtools Israel cannot commit so called 'Apartheid' on a people not within its borders...South Africa is a classic case of Apartheid...but not Israel! HAMAS ATTACKED A SOVEREIGN NATION
PLO Lumumba Is Such A Breath Of Fresh Air When It Comes To Offering A Well Balanced Approach To Real World Issues. His Wisdom, Well Thought Out Solutions And Balanced Perspective Is Second To None. I Vote Him As The First Emperor Of The Entire African Continent!
So great to hear you provide clear, accurate, and unbiased historical context regarding this conflict. Thank you very much Sir for your perspective. Be well, stay blessed.
I'm from the Marcavilenean school of thoughts! Let those who knows the facts and truths but don't accept them but try to use voilence in seeking solutions face the consequences of their actions. My late father use to say, you cannot remove a living dog's tail from the fire! He will remove it himself when the fire gets hotter or when it starts to burn. Democracy and the rule of laws must prevail and all those who want to live and be successful most obey and follow !
Great intelligence, but lacked the most basic foundation. What ever is happening in the middle east, esp. with Israel and Palestine has a spiritual side to it. The spiritual can understand it. Don't forget that the spiritual controls the physical.
For the first time, I don't think prof had a depth of knowledge of the situation. Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. Hamas Is not the problem the status quo is. Hamas was formed in 1987, and the occupation of Palestine is over 75 years. Only question you need to ask is when has Isreal fostered a peaceful resolution. The only Israeli prime minister who came close was assassinated. What options would you leave Palestinians? You do realize that the entire world had forgotten their struggle before October 7. Just two year earlier, the Trump administration orchestrated the Abraham accord, which seeked to normalize relationships with arab countries without consideration of the Palestinian plight. Which was one of the last leverages they had.
Correct analysis my Brother. It's sad reading many of the comments, people fail to see PLO Lamumba is a "empty suite" when it comes to current geopolitical African and or Global South dynamics. He is obviously of the comprador class. One can get more informed reading Prof Gerald Horne.
@Ron841000 with people like you who think they know everything, but they fail to come out and articulate their grievances through different platforms and contribute towards solution, there is no hope at all. I think keyboard warriors like you gaslighting people who are trying to bring ideas to the table are as useless as those fueling the crisis.
@mikemwanza8027 I apologize for my earlier comment because I see it was not me you were referring to directly. RUclips really needs to improve the way comments and replies are displayed. I got notified in my email that you replied to me, and considering what I had stated and your aforementioned response, it really pissed me off. Again, we should never be too slow to accept when we are wrong. Apologies again 🙏
@aghoghobernard I think you're not accurate. The restlessness of both sides existed before 1947. The nuslim extremist has been influencing the muslims not to accept Israelis in that region. Israel was lucky to escape the war brought on them in the early days, and won't be wise to let down guards. Nigeria is paying the price in the north today. Don't mistake the palestinian struggles as a weakness, these are people that keep blowing themselves as a part of religion. They are hardened just because they think infidels shouldn't hold gorunds around them. The struggles of Palestinians started from when they attempted to resolve their dispute of unfair sharing of the land through a war. Israel kept expanding after each war they won. The whole fences and restrictions around Israel is as a result of the arab extremists blowing up themselves. Like prof mentioned, the new strategy is the radicalization of the children, which I think is a crime against children. The Israel extremist hasn't helped the situation as well. The Palestinian state is over bloated with an ideology. The country was not fully established before Israel joined them, and I don't see what's so difficult in a 2 state. The arab radio in the west bank has made it clear that the 2 state solution would be an inroad to eradicate Israel. Go and check history, the muslim extremist strategy has always been to infiltrate the country, then take over. I would suggest that they reshare the 2 state, to ensure that each could be clearly divided by borders. It needs an holistic view.
Your first sentence reflects your lack of understanding of the region's dynamics, so let me educate you. There isn't a two-sides to this. There is one side with colonial and imperialist objectives and the other the subject. Before 1947, the schism existed only as a result of the mass immigration of European Jews to Palestine in the 1920s and their intent to create a state on their land. Nothing more, nothing less. Anti-Semitism was a European thing, not a Middle Eastern thing. What did Palestine have to do with the injustice the European Jews experienced in Europe? There was peace in Palestine between 1900 and 1917. Mind you, in case you don't know, the Balfour Declaration was signed in 1917, which created the plan to develop a zionist state in another people's land without their take on the subject. To further educate you, the British weren't doing this in the interest of European Jews; they did it due to capitalist interest. They needed a client state through which they could exert British power and control key trade routes like the Suez Canal et al., also because Europe was largely anti-Semitic at the time. They would rather them be somewhere else. To enlighten you more, if the land was inhabited, who did the British negotiate within their bid to defeat the Ottoman Empire? You do realize that the British government promised them - the Arabs their independence if they turned against their colonial masters - the Ottomans, and that's how the allied forces defeated the Ottoman Empire. So why do you think it was ever coined - “A land without a people for people without a land”? Isn't that a propaganda? The land was inhabited; we have videos and photos of Palestine before 1947. It had trains, Buick car production lines, museums, schools, airports, etc. It was a civilization, albeit controlled by the Ottomans. Isn't this a classic colonial divide-and-conquer strategy? Didn't the French do the same thing in Algeria? Furthermore, before the 1920s, the Jewish population of Palestine was just under 5%. And please note this Jewish population we are talking about here is predominantly Jewish Palestinians, not European. When you have not studied history on a given subject, please don't comment and be confident about being wrong. Go and do your homework. Your comments wreak with a lot of ignorance. So you asked another question, albeit rhetorical, I think. “I don't see what is so difficult about a two-state solution.” OK, let me give you some schooling. What exactly is the two-state solution? It was a suggestion by the newly formed United Nations-it was previously the League of Nations as a suggestion on how to move towards peace in the region as there was immense pushback on the plans to create a zionist state in Palestine. So, let me take you back a few years earlier. As I mentioned before, during the 1920s and the mass immigration of European Jews to the regions, the Palestinians unanimously rejected the idea of taking parts of their land, which led to a lot of fighting. The British government, which had a mandate over Palestine then, was shocked at the extent of the pushback; sidebar, why do you think they will be surprised? Why would anyone accept coming to take their land to create a state? I mean, a lot of people debated this in the corridors of power in London about how harmful of an idea this was when they were lobbying for the Balfour Declaration. Anyways I digress As a result of this crisis, the British government created the Peel Commission to investigate further and come up with a solution. The mufti of Jerusalem was amongst the few who turned up to communicate to the British government that there was a unanimous agreement by the Arabs that this was not going to be accepted. The commission couldn't find a lot of people to interview. Many didn't even want to entertain the question because it insulted the people of the land. The commission proposed the first idea of a two-state solution. Although it gave about 35% of the land for the creation of a zionist state and the rest to the Palestinian people. The Palestinian people rejected it, and the conflicts continued. In fact, at the time, the British government suspended further immigration. After suffering some losses from zionist militias themselves, they hung their boots and returned the mandate to the United Nations. It is pretty essential to note that the United Nations at this time was not a reflection of the world but a reflection of imperialist and colonial masters. Most of Africa and the Middle East at the time were still Colonies of some colonial power. Ten years later, in 1947, the United Nations proposed another form of two-states with some tweaks- a three-way division. 55% of the land to the zionist state, the rest to the Palestinian people and Jerusalem to be controlled by the United Nations. Do also note the level of justice here. First of all, as I mentioned, the Jewish population was less than 10% and grew to about 30% during the mass immigration. This meant they were still a minority, yet the United Nations still allocated more than half of Palestinian lands to immigrants. What they didn't know at the time was that the Zionists were fooling them. Their plan all along was to annex the entire land. The closest prime minister who had come close to yielding some annexed land to create a viable Palestinian state was assassinated by an Israeli far right individual during the Oslo Accords era. Since then, there has been a massive skyrocket of Israeli settlers into internationally agreed Palestinian territories. Did Israel arrest them? Did it punish them? Did the world sanction Israel for allowing it to stand? There are about 800,000 of them now in the West Bank. Many forcefully took land and properties from Palestinians. How can the two-state ever work when the international community has never enforced it? It was never about peace but process. So I employ you, go and get educated on the subject. Don't comment until you understand the nuances and intricacies of the subject. Ask questions rather than comment. Religion was the smoke screen used to cover the gross crime and injustice committed against the Palestinian people. Israel represents the last colonial project and it won't last long in its current form. One final piece of advice - dont listen to MSM if you want to get educated on this topic because they control almost of all them. If you want solutions to a problem you address the root cause, not the symptoms
Good move of South Africa. But I'm surprised we haven't done anything for our own. Congo is suffering and a lot of inhuman activities are happening over years now and no attention from AU, ICC or condeming it publicly like we're involved with Arabs affairs !!
It's not that nothing is done in Congo and other African state in conflict. We just don't give them the same airtime in our media and parliament. As a South African I've known of the Palestine conflict since the 90s their history and ours are the same. We also shared a lot of bilateral relations. In Congo South Africa has a peace keeping mission, we recently have been requested to send more troops and we did. In Sudan, we are also trying to mediate, the problem is that there is so many of us trying to do that. In Mozambique we have another peace keeping mission of SADC which was also initiated by South Africa after Mozambique refused assistance but allowed Rwanda. Rwanda again is the stumbling block on Congo. When we address Rwanda East African nations come for us. So we rather do the peace keeping until real engagements are ready to be held.
For so sometime UN had its peace keeping mission in Congo but withdrew and immediately after that SA led SADC region army to Congo and the conflict there its among the Congo people not states same as Sudan.
Normally during any war there are almost always casualties. This war Hamas are fighting Isreal from amongst the civillians in Gaza. I feel that is cowardice to say the least. Isreal openly declare when they intend to attackna certain area so as to allow civillians to clear out. Hamas is stopping these people to clear out.SA speak with a double tongue like a snake as they know Putin is committing genocide in Ukraine. A delegation from Africa went to Russia tonsee if they could reason with someone extremely unreasonable and power hungry it proofed to be a wastefull, fruitless and useless exercise because Putin is simply refusing to listen to the ICJ. Any state has the right to defend itself against their enemy, its that simple
Thanks for you our kenyans Lumumba for telling the truth because many Christians in kenya and African they don't know about thise, they know its war in religion
A true Bible believing Christian fully agrees with All that God promised Abraham. God specified the boundary for Abraham's Seed . And NO AMOUNT IF WORDS OR MAN'S POWER WILL CHANGE THIS. Many have tried over the centuries to eliminate Israel only to become extinct themselves. Pharaoh,Haman,Edom,Ishmarlites,Moab,Hagarenes,Gebal,Ammon,Amalek,Philistines,Sisera, Oreb,Zebah & Zalmuna. (PSALM 83; Esther 1-9). Two states side by side was wrong thought no wonder it'll never happen! How comes enemies of Israel that surround Israel have failed to destroy Israel? Nobody can defeat israel whose father wrestled with his God and prevailed(Genesis 32). Their God fights for them. I pity those whose accuse Israel because Balam's prophecy said they'd be cursed while whoever blesses Israel will be blessed (Genesis 22-25). What will one say when Israel finally destroys the mosque of omar in east Jerusalem before building their Temple there? Infact the whole world will go to fight Israel but God will us Russia to burn them with Thermonuclear power(Zechariah 14;Rev. 17). I tell everybody to repent and be baptized in the Name of the LORD Jesus Christ for the remission of sins then shall ye receive the Gift on the Holy Ghost(Acts 2:38). Then shall your eyes be opened to know how God loves Israel and how Jesus Christ loves His Bride.
Prof lumumba .i would like to hear you about what Rwanda and uganda are doing in the eastern dr congo plz . People are dying all day long .you are among the wise men in africa .thanks .
@@bigmantingz5127 my logic is that the land was divided years ago. The Arabs and Israeli should stop hating and accept 2 state solution. Your logic of doing what is right will set up a resettlement of the world… which is a lot of lands for grabs
What stolen land are you referring to? There was no single Palestinian in the land of Israel in history, and therefore Palestinian Arabs should seek alternative homeland. Let them go to go to Arabia, Arabia is a vast land and it has the capacity to accommodate them. Why is the holy land so attractive to them?
I agree two state existance is a solution. We cannot deny the existance of either Palestine or Israel. Both should peacefully co-exist with truth, forgiveness and reconciliation.
With much respect, I would propose a fact check on two issues 1. The Balfour declaration was made in 1917 and not in 1948. It proposed the setting up of a homeland for Jewish people in Palestine. 2. Connected with the above, the two-state solution did not first emerge from the Oslo negotiations. It was merely re-echoed there. The two-state solution was proposed by the UN resolution in 1947 for establishment of a separate jewish and arab state in palestine. The jews accepted it and formed the state of Israel. The arabs rejected it and declared a war on the young israeli state. The arabs lost. The arabs have aways rejected the two-state solution, and they will never accept it. Incidentally, they have so far lost all the wars they have started. On another note, all residents of Palestine before 1967 were called Palestinians (both arabs and jews). The capture of the term "Palestinian" as a description of nationhood for the arabs only happened for political reasons in about 1967. Palestine was started by the Romans in 135AD after the crushed the 2nd Jewish revolt and renamed what was the Roman province of Judaea as Palestina-Syria as a sleight to the jews. Palestina-Syria or the British mandate Palestine comprised of modern-day Israel and Jordan. Fast forward, and Palestina-Syria was actually divided into two states, one for arabs and one for jews. The one for Arabs is what is now called Jordan (previously Transjordan). The one for Jews is what is now called Israel, including the Judaea and Samaria (the West Bank) and Gaza and all israel. This should have solved the problem except that the arabs didnt believe there should be an Israeli state. This partitio, which was initially meant for the jews is what is now being discussed for further division into another two states. One for Jews and one for Arabs. The Jews were actually betrayed by the British, not helped or propped up by them, as many people now say. This betrayal is what caused Jordan the state for Arabs to get off the table even after the two state solution had been proposed and implemented. Even today, israel is very cautious, literally tiptoeing around the international community for fear of mass condemnation. Dear Prof. PLO, Please verify these assertions, and if you find them factual as I know they are, please consider realigning your arguments and conclusions in this video
This man, Prof. PLO LUMUMBA, is the twin brother of OSAGYEFO DR. KWAME NKRUMAH, the first President of Ghana, who was overthrown by Western countries/CIA. Africa needs about one thousand of this quality and intelligence, and the continent will rediscover itself as a sovereign continent. May God, the Almighty, give him long life and clean intelligence. Long live PLO LUMUMBA !!!!!!!!
Sir..could you consider historically Israel as the nation built by the patriarchs and monarchs like David and Solomon..but then for the sake of peace let there be a two state solution.
@@duckblek8158 How can you ask me to open my eyes when your eyes are not only closed but your ears and your ability to think are also completely blocked? It’s the same Israel who recruited Hamas and put them there to be a means of their reason to continue to slaughter and ethnically cleanse innocent Palestinians as we are seeing unfolding.
Two state solution is the way to go.However,the extremists on both sides are frustrating that effort. These are the problems UN is supposed to solve,but if it's ineffective,then it must be made effective. Iwould love the professor to offer his opinion on this.
Conventional wisdom might not agreed with me but I see no reconciliation of either sides agreeing to two separate states and I am in fully agreement with both. The Palestinians must not succumb to any agreement of such. Surrendering ing to the will of Israel, USA and the UN the Palestinians people should not take lightly. For example, the South Indians are now increasing in numbers in both in Tanzania and Kenya , what if they ask for desperate of peoples in both countries, would you agree?
While I agree with most of what was articulated so well, I think the Palestinians have always been on the defense, just like during Apartheid, which I experienced for the greater part of my life; the native people were constantly subjected to all kinds of abuse by the minority new comers.
Exactly 💯 % true!. For Palestinians to behave in the manner in which it did like that of 7th October 2023 is understood to me, although it is a wrong way of doing it in that way. If one is oppressed extremely for too long, one can react desperately in any manner that sounds befitting no matter how bad or good. If the reaction is bad, what has the international community done to normalize the situation? The answer is nothing! So, Palestinians' reactions were justified in natural terms, though it was wrong from the logical understanding
I agree more with you than with Prof. He is to me seeking attention as long as we have more pressing issues in Africa and he is talking about people better than us. This is to me bulshit but I still have my respect for him.
I fill more energized for this man, such all African should raise up at once and support the presidency of this man fir the whole of Africa as on country i pray Amen
Jonathan attacked the Philistine outpost at Geba, and the Philistines heard about it. Then Saul had the trumpet blown throughout the land and said, “Let the Hebrews hear!” 4 So all Israel heard the news: “Saul has attacked the Philistine outpost, and now Israel has become obnoxious to the Philistines.” And the people were summoned to join Saul at Gilgal. 5 The Philistines assembled to fight Israel, with three thousand[c] chariots, six thousand charioteers, and soldiers as numerous as the sand on the seashore. They went up and camped at Mikmash, east of Beth Aven. 6 When the Israelites saw that their situation was critical and that their army was hard pressed, they hid in caves and thickets, among the rocks, and in pits and cisterns. 7 Some Hebrews even crossed the Jordan to the land of Gad and Gilead.
When someone who does not study the Bible or understand Bible exegesis uses this argument you know how ignorant they are. This is why even knowledgeable Arabs will never use this argument because it defeats their case from the start. Let me help you just a bit. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philistia
It's sad that key interlectual figures who are also supposed Christians only limit their historical knowledge regarding Israeli Arab conflict to May 14 1948. They're in total disregard to the Biblical account (which clearly transcends all historical records on this matter) on the people and the land of Israel because they either dont read it or if they do, don't understand it.
Ok. That fictional book about Seth begetting and talking snakes? And children of Israel crossing from Egypt to Canaan a distance of less than 100 miles in 40yrs......give us a break.
This was fairly objective from PLO. Outside of a two-state solution which seems unlikely more and more, what other solution exist? And how do you implement a two-state solution given how fragmented the Palestinian population is (West Bank and Gaza)? And how will Jerusalem be split eventually? These are tough questions
If it is not a two-state solution then it must be a one-state where both the Israelis and Palestinians get to enjoy the same rights inside this new country. The other option will have to be apartheid which is what we are seeing now in the West Bank.
@@MrVasco07 A one-state solution is inconceivable under the current circumstances. It should not even be contemplated. The two peoples already have very different cultures and the hostilities between them are too deep and personal to imagine them living 'under one roof'. Secondly, unless Palestinians are willing to submit themselves to an Israeli-led government then a one state can't work. Israelis are economically and militarily stronger than Palestinians so they can't agree to be governed by the 'lesser'. And sharing power is hardly sustainable. The problem with a two-state solution is not having two independent Israel and Palestine states per se but where each state will be located. Both peoples are claiming the same territory for historical, cultural and above all religious reasons. And ceding parts of that territory is an admission of defeat by either. I think it's high time Palestinians, the International Community and the Arab countries admitted that Israel has won the war and let it occupy the land and resettle Palestinians in a different place where they can form their own state and establish a government. The international community and Arab Nations can provide funds for such an undertaking. Israel too can be compelled to compensate Palestinians, the value of the land they occupied and existing infrastructure. This might be a massive capitulation in the side of Palestine but it's high time they admitted they've lost too many lives.
@@MrVasco07 I totally agree with the one-state solution. The two-state solution would require Israel to give back some of the lands annexed from the Palestinians, which is opposed by some in Israel.
@@shiftammone state solution is not easy as you may think if we need one state solution first we have to change both names israel/palestine and create A uniting name then the citizens of that one state should hv equal rights regardless of ethnicity,colour,religion and so on so if some israelis can't accept giving up the land they hv stolen how wll they accept changing the name of israel the jewish state ?? Hhhhhhhhhhh
Sir good day to you we need you to comment the issue of Mazi Nnandi Kanu who has been humilated since the court of competent juridictiob that set him free but Nigerian government is still holding him unlawfully.Nnandi Kanu was iligally adopted from Kenya,while he was slso a British citizen seeking for freedom of Biafrians❤ from corrupt country Nigeria.God bless you as we expect your comments,Sir.
Thank you Prof. I wish you could invite Pastors from evangelical Churches who are well bent on supporting Israel even when fellow Christians and Churches in Gaza and Palestine are bombed to pieces by the Zionist Jewish Israelis and European settlers
We have countries in Africa systematically perpetrating genocide against indigenous people. You wanna remove a dirt from somebody's eyes while you have a heap on your eyes , "You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." We have a continent plagued with injustice, crime ,bribery, lies , insecurities and all manner of evils , our children are being born without hope , without having a basic education due to corrupt governments. And you want to take Israel to ICJ accusing them of genocide. Give them extremists the power of power of the jews ,if they will not overnight eradicate the jews . This issue is not about speaking grammars , it's about understanding how formidable your adversaries are.
Thanks Prof Lumumba for such enlightened topic, much appreciated. I'd like to stress that, the complexity of the issues between Israel n Palestine is such that for there to be a peaceful solution a lot still have to happen and that's very unfortunate but nonetheless we should stop striving for that one day.
I have the utmost respect for a great man. His insights are really inspirational for what is happening in that side of the world.. I would like to hear from you Sir, about the following: RSA stepped up to condemn Israel genocide which is an example all other countries should follow. My question is: why RSA don't condemn with the same frontality, the genocide perpetrated and committed by Russia towards Ukraine? Is not genocide what ucranianas have suffering for more than 2 years now?
Prof I quit agreed with some of the issues you raised meanwhile October 7 2023 is condemnable two state solution is the answer reason being that in 1948 Balfour accord, two states was agreed on WHY would Palestinians,Iran and its proxies object to the accord that would insure lasting peace in the region resulting to insecurity and terrorism against the nation of Israel.Therefore, the world as a whole will jointly prevail over terror elements who oppose the souvereinty of Israel and Palestine in the two states solution
You should only know this is not a war of religious fast then ,and then who are the original jews of israel, if you know about that then the case is closed, brother, did you know inside israeli there are only 2%Christians and all other are jews, and the original jews in israel are supporting Palastine,
You want to say Israel owns the land 2000 yrs ago. Imagine the whole world decide to move to where our ancestors once lived, are you sure the world will be at peace? Imagine Indians telling Americans to move. Imagine blacks telling the whole Middle-East to live because their ancestors lived there. People lived, migrated. Pushed away, but after UN, we decided to keep borders.
@@isaacKofiNorteyso if you wanna go by that logic, 'palestinians' should also stop laying claim to lands in israel, and go n live with their arab brothers..
PLO i like your indepth knowledge on Israeli Palestine conflict but one truth i would also like you to know is that suppose what happened on October 7th against Israel was done on us(me and you)and i pray God forbid, then your view on how Israel reacted will automatically change because i know our response would have been spontaneous and furious coz i understand my country Kenya.That place in a matter of would have been converted to look like Shetani lava past Chulu hills in Tsavo West.Thank Israel at least they gave some temporary evacuation warnings before they attacked.
You still have far more to learn. All your knowledge of history started on Oct 7. Maybe read more authentic history about what has been going on there to know whether Oct 7 happened in vacuum or not.
Infact Hamas came into being in 1987 and their action should not be an excuse for the Zionists to commit genocide against Palestinian people. Israel has maimed and killed Palestinians from the last 75 years and therefore should be condemned by all the peace loving people of this world. This is the problem that was created by England as they handed the Palestinian lands to the Zionists that don't even believe in God, read Belfour declaration of 1917 and the goals of Theodore Herl of Basel, Switzerland.
Your country kenya is Genocidal country, it massacred thousands in Garrisa, watch from KTN Wagalla massacre. Its no wonder you support this, remember justice will bring you down. My Aunt was killed by KDF, i have yet to get my revenge but i will sooner than you expect. Keep Bad mouthing around here
If Kenya took the land of other people and force them into misery then October 07, would be justified against you. If your response is as harsh, we would be willing to call u out!
It's very simple. You don't move into a land that's already heavily inhabited and tell the people there they need to make way for you and expect that things will go well. Especially when the local people were never consulted on the matter nor had any representation when the decision was being made.
The piece of land assigned to the Jews was inhabited (and by then inhabitable swampy infested by mosquitos and hence malaria - it isn't a coincidence that Israelis invented malaria treatment). It is coveted today because the Jews made it valuable.
@@wesnsomba There was no swamp land in that area. There's only the Jordan River, The Sea of Galilee, the Dead Sea and the Mediterranean. It's an area of stony semi arid land and very hilly.
Professor Lumumba has explained and analysed very well the history of Israel-Palestine conflict on many of the issues which alot of us didn't apart from acknowledging that it is a religious war.Surely the only way out is the two state solution despite the challenges
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More Grace sir
I have always respected Prof Lumumba and I have to once again applaud him here. I was born in South Africa in 1961 and grew up in an Apartheid country so I know what it feels like to be oppressed
@@tmtools Israel cannot commit so called 'Apartheid' on a people not within its borders...South Africa is a classic case of Apartheid...but not Israel! HAMAS ATTACKED A SOVEREIGN NATION
Love from South Africa, you're a blessing, Good Times Live, now imagine the new generation will listen to Malema.
Thank you BaBa PLO Lumumba for the history and insight. Always on point and honest. Amilcar Cabral said" Tell no lies, claim no easy victories.
Prof: your the voice of reason and wisdom for Africa and the world❤
I am happy to have come across the speeches of this great man. So much wisdom and knowledge.
I love this man speech, very respectful and maturely
PLO Lumumba Is Such A Breath Of Fresh Air When It Comes To Offering A Well Balanced Approach To Real World Issues. His Wisdom, Well Thought Out Solutions And Balanced Perspective Is Second To None. I Vote Him As The First Emperor Of The Entire African Continent!
So great to hear you provide clear, accurate, and unbiased historical context regarding this conflict. Thank you very much Sir for your perspective. Be well, stay blessed.
Very well spoken with depth of facts and intelligence.
Prof.......you doing a great job....... One Africa one nation.....
One africa one nation. Wake up brother.
I'm from the Marcavilenean school of thoughts! Let those who knows the facts and truths but don't accept them but try to use voilence in seeking solutions face the consequences of their actions.
My late father use to say, you cannot remove a living dog's tail from the fire! He will remove it himself when the fire gets hotter or when it starts to burn.
Democracy and the rule of laws must prevail and all those who want to live and be successful most obey and follow !
this man is a great human with a purest heart ❤️
Well said Prof. Such wisdom is unmeasured.
This Brother is always on Time, History is Facts
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Great man. Highly intelligent.
Great intelligence, but lacked the most basic foundation. What ever is happening in the middle east, esp. with Israel and Palestine has a spiritual side to it. The spiritual can understand it. Don't forget that the spiritual controls the physical.
I think Prof is on the right side of history.
I salute you my Prof. Peace of two states is important for civilians
A very detailed commentary intelligently presented by a well known intellectual. GOOD JOB
Well articulated as such!
enlighted us more, brother!
waw !
Viva Professor PLO Lumumba!
Interesting and worthy listening to. Thank you so much 💓
Great insights prof. Analysing the coin on both sides
Glad you liked it!
I am proud of lumumbas proximity because he is a father in speech and integrity
Can’t go the month without listening to prof, love from SA❤️
FACTS!!!.....NY❤
I agree with you on this point,wholeheartedly,and I respect your impartiality as well, from srilanka
For the first time, I don't think prof had a depth of knowledge of the situation. Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. Hamas Is not the problem the status quo is. Hamas was formed in 1987, and the occupation of Palestine is over 75 years. Only question you need to ask is when has Isreal fostered a peaceful resolution. The only Israeli prime minister who came close was assassinated. What options would you leave Palestinians?
You do realize that the entire world had forgotten their struggle before October 7. Just two year earlier, the Trump administration orchestrated the Abraham accord, which seeked to normalize relationships with arab countries without consideration of the Palestinian plight. Which was one of the last leverages they had.
Correct analysis my Brother. It's sad reading many of the comments, people fail to see PLO Lamumba is a "empty suite" when it comes to current geopolitical African and or Global South dynamics. He is obviously of the comprador class. One can get more informed reading Prof Gerald Horne.
@Ron841000 with people like you who think they know everything, but they fail to come out and articulate their grievances through different platforms and contribute towards solution, there is no hope at all. I think keyboard warriors like you gaslighting people who are trying to bring ideas to the table are as useless as those fueling the crisis.
@mikemwanza8027 I apologize for my earlier comment because I see it was not me you were referring to directly. RUclips really needs to improve the way comments and replies are displayed. I got notified in my email that you replied to me, and considering what I had stated and your aforementioned response, it really pissed me off. Again, we should never be too slow to accept when we are wrong. Apologies again 🙏
@aghoghobernard I think you're not accurate. The restlessness of both sides existed before 1947. The nuslim extremist has been influencing the muslims not to accept Israelis in that region. Israel was lucky to escape the war brought on them in the early days, and won't be wise to let down guards. Nigeria is paying the price in the north today.
Don't mistake the palestinian struggles as a weakness, these are people that keep blowing themselves as a part of religion. They are hardened just because they think infidels shouldn't hold gorunds around them. The struggles of Palestinians started from when they attempted to resolve their dispute of unfair sharing of the land through a war. Israel kept expanding after each war they won.
The whole fences and restrictions around Israel is as a result of the arab extremists blowing up themselves. Like prof mentioned, the new strategy is the radicalization of the children, which I think is a crime against children.
The Israel extremist hasn't helped the situation as well. The Palestinian state is over bloated with an ideology. The country was not fully established before Israel joined them, and I don't see what's so difficult in a 2 state.
The arab radio in the west bank has made it clear that the 2 state solution would be an inroad to eradicate Israel. Go and check history, the muslim extremist strategy has always been to infiltrate the country, then take over.
I would suggest that they reshare the 2 state, to ensure that each could be clearly divided by borders. It needs an holistic view.
Your first sentence reflects your lack of understanding of the region's dynamics, so let me educate you. There isn't a two-sides to this. There is one side with colonial and imperialist objectives and the other the subject.
Before 1947, the schism existed only as a result of the mass immigration of European Jews to Palestine in the 1920s and their intent to create a state on their land. Nothing more, nothing less. Anti-Semitism was a European thing, not a Middle Eastern thing. What did Palestine have to do with the injustice the European Jews experienced in Europe?
There was peace in Palestine between 1900 and 1917. Mind you, in case you don't know, the Balfour Declaration was signed in 1917, which created the plan to develop a zionist state in another people's land without their take on the subject.
To further educate you, the British weren't doing this in the interest of European Jews; they did it due to capitalist interest. They needed a client state through which they could exert British power and control key trade routes like the Suez Canal et al., also because Europe was largely anti-Semitic at the time. They would rather them be somewhere else.
To enlighten you more, if the land was inhabited, who did the British negotiate within their bid to defeat the Ottoman Empire? You do realize that the British government promised them - the Arabs their independence if they turned against their colonial masters - the Ottomans, and that's how the allied forces defeated the Ottoman Empire. So why do you think it was ever coined - “A land without a people for people without a land”? Isn't that a propaganda? The land was inhabited; we have videos and photos of Palestine before 1947. It had trains, Buick car production lines, museums, schools, airports, etc. It was a civilization, albeit controlled by the Ottomans. Isn't this a classic colonial divide-and-conquer strategy? Didn't the French do the same thing in Algeria?
Furthermore, before the 1920s, the Jewish population of Palestine was just under 5%. And please note this Jewish population we are talking about here is predominantly Jewish Palestinians, not European.
When you have not studied history on a given subject, please don't comment and be confident about being wrong. Go and do your homework. Your comments wreak with a lot of ignorance.
So you asked another question, albeit rhetorical, I think. “I don't see what is so difficult about a two-state solution.” OK, let me give you some schooling. What exactly is the two-state solution? It was a suggestion by the newly formed United Nations-it was previously the League of Nations as a suggestion on how to move towards peace in the region as there was immense pushback on the plans to create a zionist state in Palestine.
So, let me take you back a few years earlier. As I mentioned before, during the 1920s and the mass immigration of European Jews to the regions, the Palestinians unanimously rejected the idea of taking parts of their land, which led to a lot of fighting. The British government, which had a mandate over Palestine then, was shocked at the extent of the pushback; sidebar, why do you think they will be surprised? Why would anyone accept coming to take their land to create a state? I mean, a lot of people debated this in the corridors of power in London about how harmful of an idea this was when they were lobbying for the Balfour Declaration. Anyways I digress
As a result of this crisis, the British government created the Peel Commission to investigate further and come up with a solution. The mufti of Jerusalem was amongst the few who turned up to communicate to the British government that there was a unanimous agreement by the Arabs that this was not going to be accepted. The commission couldn't find a lot of people to interview. Many didn't even want to entertain the question because it insulted the people of the land. The commission proposed the first idea of a two-state solution. Although it gave about 35% of the land for the creation of a zionist state and the rest to the Palestinian people.
The Palestinian people rejected it, and the conflicts continued. In fact, at the time, the British government suspended further immigration. After suffering some losses from zionist militias themselves, they hung their boots and returned the mandate to the United Nations. It is pretty essential to note that the United Nations at this time was not a reflection of the world but a reflection of imperialist and colonial masters. Most of Africa and the Middle East at the time were still Colonies of some colonial power.
Ten years later, in 1947, the United Nations proposed another form of two-states with some tweaks- a three-way division. 55% of the land to the zionist state, the rest to the Palestinian people and Jerusalem to be controlled by the United Nations. Do also note the level of justice here. First of all, as I mentioned, the Jewish population was less than 10% and grew to about 30% during the mass immigration. This meant they were still a minority, yet the United Nations still allocated more than half of Palestinian lands to immigrants.
What they didn't know at the time was that the Zionists were fooling them. Their plan all along was to annex the entire land. The closest prime minister who had come close to yielding some annexed land to create a viable Palestinian state was assassinated by an Israeli far right individual during the Oslo Accords era. Since then, there has been a massive skyrocket of Israeli settlers into internationally agreed Palestinian territories. Did Israel arrest them? Did it punish them? Did the world sanction Israel for allowing it to stand? There are about 800,000 of them now in the West Bank. Many forcefully took land and properties from Palestinians. How can the two-state ever work when the international community has never enforced it? It was never about peace but process.
So I employ you, go and get educated on the subject. Don't comment until you understand the nuances and intricacies of the subject. Ask questions rather than comment. Religion was the smoke screen used to cover the gross crime and injustice committed against the Palestinian people. Israel represents the last colonial project and it won't last long in its current form. One final piece of advice - dont listen to MSM if you want to get educated on this topic because they control almost of all them.
If you want solutions to a problem you address the root cause, not the symptoms
On Point PLO!
Thank you for supporting the Palestinian case .
Thank you sir, professor Lumumba.
Thanks prof lumumba for that intelligent and wise insights
I love PLO LUMUMBA for this. He has suppressed his faith to support Palestine. The state of Israel is indeed the problem
Honest, factual, balanced analyses.
Thank you for appreciating the honesty and balance in my analyses.
Prof. I admire your courage in all your presentations. Africa needs more of you.
Our Africa needs less of this type of dumb people. Africans should always stand for what's right.
Most of Africans stand with Israel.
Shalom!!!
Good move of South Africa. But I'm surprised we haven't done anything for our own. Congo is suffering and a lot of inhuman activities are happening over years now and no attention from AU, ICC or condeming it publicly like we're involved with Arabs affairs !!
It's not that nothing is done in Congo and other African state in conflict. We just don't give them the same airtime in our media and parliament. As a South African I've known of the Palestine conflict since the 90s their history and ours are the same. We also shared a lot of bilateral relations. In Congo South Africa has a peace keeping mission, we recently have been requested to send more troops and we did. In Sudan, we are also trying to mediate, the problem is that there is so many of us trying to do that. In Mozambique we have another peace keeping mission of SADC which was also initiated by South Africa after Mozambique refused assistance but allowed Rwanda. Rwanda again is the stumbling block on Congo. When we address Rwanda East African nations come for us. So we rather do the peace keeping until real engagements are ready to be held.
Most resource rich countries are in trouble. This is deliberate destabilisation of the continent.
He that pays the piper controls the tune
I think Uganda was taken to ICJ and it was ordered to pay approx 6 billion dollars to Congo
For so sometime UN had its peace keeping mission in Congo but withdrew and immediately after that SA led SADC region army to Congo and the conflict there its among the Congo people not states same as Sudan.
Well articulated you can win a battle not a war thanks professor lumumba for your thoughts
Prof. You are very interesting person to listen to.
A voice in the wilderness,a watchmen on the wall.
I have a lot of respect for this man, but you cannot treat people in such manner without consequences, gaza is an open air prison
It's not an open air prison, but a concentration camp
Normally during any war there are almost always casualties. This war Hamas are fighting Isreal from amongst the civillians in Gaza. I feel that is cowardice to say the least. Isreal openly declare when they intend to attackna certain area so as to allow civillians to clear out. Hamas is stopping these people to clear out.SA speak with a double tongue like a snake as they know Putin is committing genocide in Ukraine. A delegation from Africa went to Russia tonsee if they could reason with someone extremely unreasonable and power hungry it proofed to be a wastefull, fruitless and useless exercise because Putin is simply refusing to listen to the ICJ. Any state has the right to defend itself against their enemy, its that simple
From someone swallowing terrorists propaganda!! No it is not.
Why didn't they the Palestine follow Israel in declaration of there state in 1948
@@kennedybarasa6342 the whole world was against them when they were ethnically cleansed in 1948
Thank you for being a moderate party between the conflict .
In an effort to bring an end of the dispute.
Prof. This a balanced presentation of the Palatinian and Israel situation .
Exactly the speaker is well organized.
Thank you for speaking truth
Thanks for you our kenyans Lumumba for telling the truth because many Christians in kenya and African they don't know about thise, they know its war in religion
Most Kenyans know Gaza is where we have muslims and Christians(though Christians are a minority) being fought by jews of Israel.
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A true Bible believing Christian fully agrees with All that God promised Abraham.
God specified the boundary for Abraham's Seed .
And NO AMOUNT IF WORDS OR MAN'S POWER WILL CHANGE THIS.
Many have tried over the centuries to eliminate Israel only to become extinct themselves.
Pharaoh,Haman,Edom,Ishmarlites,Moab,Hagarenes,Gebal,Ammon,Amalek,Philistines,Sisera, Oreb,Zebah & Zalmuna.
(PSALM 83; Esther 1-9).
Two states side by side was wrong thought no wonder it'll never happen!
How comes enemies of Israel that surround Israel have failed to destroy Israel?
Nobody can defeat israel whose father wrestled with his God and prevailed(Genesis 32).
Their God fights for them.
I pity those whose accuse Israel because Balam's prophecy said they'd be cursed while whoever blesses Israel will be blessed (Genesis 22-25).
What will one say when Israel finally destroys the mosque of omar in east Jerusalem before building their Temple there?
Infact the whole world will go to fight Israel but God will us Russia to burn them with Thermonuclear power(Zechariah 14;Rev. 17).
I tell everybody to repent and be baptized in the Name of the LORD Jesus Christ for the remission of sins then shall ye receive the Gift on the Holy Ghost(Acts 2:38).
Then shall your eyes be opened to know how God loves Israel and how Jesus Christ loves His Bride.
It's a religious war the Qur'an itself is against Israel
What about Muslim
Well talked, congratulation professor.
Excellent presentation
Diamond
Prof lumumba .i would like to hear you about what Rwanda and uganda are doing in the eastern dr congo plz . People are dying all day long .you are among the wise men in africa .thanks .
I struggle to understand a two state solution when your land has been stolen. Lets not forget they are “British Mandated Israel”
Don’t struggle too much. The world was resettled all these years. Even Canada shouldn’t exist, if we go with your logic
@DennisJack-we9sq does that make it right ?! It was stolen land! if we follow your logic, I guess everything's up for grabs , maybe your home next?!
And what would happen to the Jewish claim of the Roman and Salahadin and Ottoman sackings and occupation of the land of Israel?
@@bigmantingz5127 my logic is that the land was divided years ago. The Arabs and Israeli should stop hating and accept 2 state solution.
Your logic of doing what is right will set up a resettlement of the world… which is a lot of lands for grabs
What stolen land are you referring to? There was no single Palestinian in the land of Israel in history, and therefore Palestinian Arabs should seek alternative homeland. Let them go to go to Arabia, Arabia is a vast land and it has the capacity to accommodate them.
Why is the holy land so attractive to them?
I agree two state existance is a solution. We cannot deny the existance of either Palestine or Israel. Both should peacefully co-exist with truth, forgiveness and reconciliation.
May the good God bless you and keep you because you open our eyes. One day change will come God will guide us.
Man of wisdom
Ilike this man
God 🙌 bless you
Merci, Prof. Lumumba ✨🖤✨
PLO is naturally good, insightful, full of wisdom. I emulate his iq
With much respect, I would propose a fact check on two issues
1. The Balfour declaration was made in 1917 and not in 1948. It proposed the setting up of a homeland for Jewish people in Palestine.
2. Connected with the above, the two-state solution did not first emerge from the Oslo negotiations. It was merely re-echoed there. The two-state solution was proposed by the UN resolution in 1947 for establishment of a separate jewish and arab state in palestine. The jews accepted it and formed the state of Israel. The arabs rejected it and declared a war on the young israeli state. The arabs lost. The arabs have aways rejected the two-state solution, and they will never accept it. Incidentally, they have so far lost all the wars they have started.
On another note, all residents of Palestine before 1967 were called Palestinians (both arabs and jews). The capture of the term "Palestinian" as a description of nationhood for the arabs only happened for political reasons in about 1967.
Palestine was started by the Romans in 135AD after the crushed the 2nd Jewish revolt and renamed what was the Roman province of Judaea as Palestina-Syria as a sleight to the jews. Palestina-Syria or the British mandate Palestine comprised of modern-day Israel and Jordan.
Fast forward, and Palestina-Syria was actually divided into two states, one for arabs and one for jews. The one for Arabs is what is now called Jordan (previously Transjordan). The one for Jews is what is now called Israel, including the Judaea and Samaria (the West Bank) and Gaza and all israel. This should have solved the problem except that the arabs didnt believe there should be an Israeli state. This partitio, which was initially meant for the jews is what is now being discussed for further division into another two states. One for Jews and one for Arabs.
The Jews were actually betrayed by the British, not helped or propped up by them, as many people now say. This betrayal is what caused Jordan the state for Arabs to get off the table even after the two state solution had been proposed and implemented.
Even today, israel is very cautious, literally tiptoeing around the international community for fear of mass condemnation.
Dear Prof. PLO, Please verify these assertions, and if you find them factual as I know they are, please consider realigning your arguments and conclusions in this video
Well said professor.
Well said wise man
well articulated Israel should be reasonable while dealing with Palestinians else endless cycle of problem won't end
This man, Prof. PLO LUMUMBA, is the twin brother of OSAGYEFO DR. KWAME NKRUMAH,
the first President of Ghana, who was overthrown by Western countries/CIA.
Africa needs about one thousand of this quality and intelligence, and the continent
will rediscover itself as a sovereign continent. May God, the Almighty, give him long life
and clean intelligence. Long live PLO LUMUMBA !!!!!!!!
Sir..could you consider historically Israel as the nation built by the patriarchs and monarchs like David and Solomon..but then for the sake of peace let there be a two state solution.
Yes u are tell truths
Wonderful analysis: no prejudice.
Elaborative 👏 Thank you Baba 🎉
Although am happy that PLO Lumumba is with the Palestines....That's great....!!
Hahaha
Why isn't Proffessor Lumumba Secretary General of the United Nations? This destructive cruel World needs his wisdom.
What a brilliant soul!
How could two States exist if one is living under open-prison like condition? How could this be called conflict when one is defenseless.
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Open your eyes. Hamas has a history of violence. Consider that in full before being Islamic or Muslim or radical.
When it became two states Gaza would not be prison
@@duckblek8158 How can you ask me to open my eyes when your eyes are not only closed but your ears and your ability to think are also completely blocked? It’s the same Israel who recruited Hamas and put them there to be a means of their reason to continue to slaughter and ethnically cleanse innocent Palestinians as we are seeing unfolding.
Two state solution is the way to go.However,the extremists on both sides are frustrating that effort. These are the problems UN is supposed to solve,but if it's ineffective,then it must be made effective. Iwould love the professor to offer his opinion on this.
Conventional wisdom might not agreed with me but I see no reconciliation of either sides agreeing to two separate states and I am in fully agreement with both. The Palestinians must not succumb to any agreement of such. Surrendering ing to the will of Israel, USA and the UN the Palestinians people should not take lightly. For example, the South Indians are now increasing in numbers in both in Tanzania and Kenya , what if they ask for desperate of peoples in both countries, would you agree?
Very impressive video
While I agree with most of what was articulated so well, I think the Palestinians have always been on the defense, just like during Apartheid, which I experienced for the greater part of my life; the native people were constantly subjected to all kinds of abuse by the minority new comers.
True kweli
Exactly 💯 % true!. For Palestinians to behave in the manner in which it did like that of 7th October 2023 is understood to me, although it is a wrong way of doing it in that way. If one is oppressed extremely for too long, one can react desperately in any manner that sounds befitting no matter how bad or good. If the reaction is bad, what has the international community done to normalize the situation? The answer is nothing!
So, Palestinians' reactions were justified in natural terms, though it was wrong from the logical understanding
Well,I agree with prof.there is a need to talk a bout things happening in Congo,Sudan,Somalia and many other.
I agree more with you than with Prof. He is to me seeking attention as long as we have more pressing issues in Africa and he is talking about people better than us. This is to me bulshit but I still have my respect for him.
So long as the palestinians are suppressed then those who were colonized will never get justice.
I fill more energized for this man, such all African should raise up at once and support the presidency of this man fir the whole of Africa as on country i pray Amen
We will never support this terrorist support rubbish in Africa!
Africa stands with Israel, like or not.
Jonathan attacked the Philistine outpost at Geba, and the Philistines heard about it. Then Saul had the trumpet blown throughout the land and said, “Let the Hebrews hear!” 4 So all Israel heard the news: “Saul has attacked the Philistine outpost, and now Israel has become obnoxious to the Philistines.” And the people were summoned to join Saul at Gilgal.
5 The Philistines assembled to fight Israel, with three thousand[c] chariots, six thousand charioteers, and soldiers as numerous as the sand on the seashore. They went up and camped at Mikmash, east of Beth Aven. 6 When the Israelites saw that their situation was critical and that their army was hard pressed, they hid in caves and thickets, among the rocks, and in pits and cisterns. 7 Some Hebrews even crossed the Jordan to the land of Gad and Gilead.
When someone who does not study the Bible or understand Bible exegesis uses this argument you know how ignorant they are. This is why even knowledgeable Arabs will never use this argument because it defeats their case from the start. Let me help you just a bit. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philistia
It's sad that key interlectual figures who are also supposed Christians only limit their historical knowledge regarding Israeli Arab conflict to May 14 1948. They're in total disregard to the Biblical account (which clearly transcends all historical records on this matter) on the people and the land of Israel because they either dont read it or if they do, don't understand it.
Ok. That fictional book about Seth begetting and talking snakes? And children of Israel crossing from Egypt to Canaan a distance of less than 100 miles in 40yrs......give us a break.
@@tajirimsafiri852 you are ignorantly clueless about what the precious book of life transcends.
@@tajirimsafiri852 please read the holy bible again cz jesus is the way truth and life dont be arrogant and ignorant.
This was fairly objective from PLO. Outside of a two-state solution which seems unlikely more and more, what other solution exist? And how do you implement a two-state solution given how fragmented the Palestinian population is (West Bank and Gaza)? And how will Jerusalem be split eventually? These are tough questions
If it is not a two-state solution then it must be a one-state where both the Israelis and Palestinians get to enjoy the same rights inside this new country. The other option will have to be apartheid which is what we are seeing now in the West Bank.
@@MrVasco07 A one-state solution is inconceivable under the current circumstances. It should not even be contemplated. The two peoples already have very different cultures and the hostilities between them are too deep and personal to imagine them living 'under one roof'. Secondly, unless Palestinians are willing to submit themselves to an Israeli-led government then a one state can't work. Israelis are economically and militarily stronger than Palestinians so they can't agree to be governed by the 'lesser'. And sharing power is hardly sustainable. The problem with a two-state solution is not having two independent Israel and Palestine states per se but where each state will be located. Both peoples are claiming the same territory for historical, cultural and above all religious reasons. And ceding parts of that territory is an admission of defeat by either. I think it's high time Palestinians, the International Community and the Arab countries admitted that Israel has won the war and let it occupy the land and resettle Palestinians in a different place where they can form their own state and establish a government. The international community and Arab Nations can provide funds for such an undertaking. Israel too can be compelled to compensate Palestinians, the value of the land they occupied and existing infrastructure. This might be a massive capitulation in the side of Palestine but it's high time they admitted they've lost too many lives.
@@MrVasco07 I totally agree with the one-state solution. The two-state solution would require Israel to give back some of the lands annexed from the Palestinians, which is opposed by some in Israel.
Jerusalem can be divided the way Berlin city was divided and administered between Western and Eastern Germany.
@@shiftammone state solution is not easy as you may think if we need one state solution first we have to change both names israel/palestine and create A uniting name then the citizens of that one state should hv equal rights regardless of ethnicity,colour,religion and so on so if some israelis can't accept giving up the land they hv stolen how wll they accept changing the name of israel the jewish state ??
Hhhhhhhhhhh
Thanks for the lectures Professors
The African Prof is back.
Sir good day to you we need you to comment the issue of Mazi Nnandi Kanu who has been humilated since the court of competent juridictiob that set him free but Nigerian government is still holding him unlawfully.Nnandi Kanu was iligally adopted from Kenya,while he was slso a British citizen seeking for freedom of Biafrians❤ from corrupt country Nigeria.God bless you as we expect your comments,Sir.
Thank you Prof. I wish you could invite Pastors from evangelical Churches who are well bent on supporting Israel even when fellow Christians and Churches in Gaza and Palestine are bombed to pieces by the Zionist Jewish Israelis and European settlers
We have countries in Africa systematically perpetrating genocide against indigenous people. You wanna remove a dirt from somebody's eyes while you have a heap on your eyes , "You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." We have a continent plagued with injustice, crime ,bribery, lies , insecurities and all manner of evils , our children are being born without hope , without having a basic education due to corrupt governments.
And you want to take Israel to ICJ accusing them of genocide. Give them extremists the power of power of the jews ,if they will not overnight eradicate the jews .
This issue is not about speaking grammars , it's about understanding how formidable your adversaries are.
Thanks Prof Lumumba for such enlightened topic, much appreciated.
I'd like to stress that, the complexity of the issues between Israel n Palestine is such that for there to be a peaceful solution a lot still have to happen and that's very unfortunate but nonetheless we should stop striving for that one day.
I have the utmost respect for a great man. His insights are really inspirational for what is happening in that side of the world..
I would like to hear from you Sir, about the following: RSA stepped up to condemn Israel genocide which is an example all other countries should follow. My question is: why RSA don't condemn with the same frontality, the genocide perpetrated and committed by Russia towards Ukraine? Is not genocide what ucranianas have suffering for more than 2 years now?
I always respect PLO. But i think he should stick to African affairs. This is too delicate for him.
Well spoken but who will start the process of reconciliation
Prof I quit agreed with some of the issues you raised meanwhile October 7 2023 is condemnable two state solution is the answer reason being that in 1948 Balfour accord, two states was agreed on WHY would Palestinians,Iran and its proxies object to the accord that would insure lasting peace in the region resulting to insecurity and terrorism against the nation of Israel.Therefore, the world as a whole will jointly prevail over terror elements who oppose the souvereinty of Israel and Palestine in the two states solution
You should only know this is not a war of religious fast then ,and then who are the original jews of israel, if you know about that then the case is closed, brother, did you know inside israeli there are only 2%Christians and all other are jews, and the original jews in israel are supporting Palastine,
Prof has given a timely and recent history perspective
You want to say Israel owns the land 2000 yrs ago. Imagine the whole world decide to move to where our ancestors once lived, are you sure the world will be at peace? Imagine Indians telling Americans to move. Imagine blacks telling the whole Middle-East to live because their ancestors lived there.
People lived, migrated. Pushed away, but after UN, we decided to keep borders.
@@isaacKofiNorteyso if you wanna go by that logic, 'palestinians' should also stop laying claim to lands in israel, and go n live with their arab brothers..
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Are you sure you read what I wrote? Or you are just exhibiting your ignorance?
I was going to visit Kenya until I saw this video. Kudos to Soith Africa. They are a light in the dark.
Then dont revisit your history
@@GraceNjoki-os5ov my history is with those who support humanity, like South Africa. Not those blinded by the truth.
Agree nakubaliana
Two states cannot be possible. It is a human solution. The solution from the God of Israel is what we should seek.
PLO i like your indepth knowledge on Israeli Palestine conflict but one truth i would also like you to know is that suppose what happened on October 7th against Israel was done on us(me and you)and i pray God forbid, then your view on how Israel reacted will automatically change because i know our response would have been spontaneous and furious coz i understand my country Kenya.That place in a matter of would have been converted to look like Shetani lava past Chulu hills in Tsavo West.Thank Israel at least they gave some temporary evacuation warnings before they attacked.
You are to colonized by mzungus to contribute with that kind of answer. Israel is a behemoth that was created in that region by England.
You still have far more to learn. All your knowledge of history started on Oct 7. Maybe read more authentic history about what has been going on there to know whether Oct 7 happened in vacuum or not.
Infact Hamas came into being in 1987 and their action should not be an excuse for the Zionists to commit genocide against Palestinian people. Israel has maimed and killed Palestinians from the last 75 years and therefore should be condemned by all the peace loving people of this world. This is the problem that was created by England as they handed the Palestinian lands to the Zionists that don't even believe in God, read Belfour declaration of 1917 and the goals of Theodore Herl of Basel, Switzerland.
Your country kenya is Genocidal country, it massacred thousands in Garrisa, watch from KTN Wagalla massacre. Its no wonder you support this, remember justice will bring you down. My Aunt was killed by KDF, i have yet to get my revenge but i will sooner than you expect. Keep Bad mouthing around here
If Kenya took the land of other people and force them into misery then October 07, would be justified against you. If your response is as harsh, we would be willing to call u out!
Well said every word
Good man think about his words
It's very simple. You don't move into a land that's already heavily inhabited and tell the people there they need to make way for you and expect that things will go well. Especially when the local people were never consulted on the matter nor had any representation when the decision was being made.
Settler colonialism being financed by USA government and extreme religious organisations 😢
The piece of land assigned to the Jews was inhabited (and by then inhabitable swampy infested by mosquitos and hence malaria - it isn't a coincidence that Israelis invented malaria treatment). It is coveted today because the Jews made it valuable.
@@wesnsomba There was no swamp land in that area. There's only the Jordan River, The Sea of Galilee, the Dead Sea and the Mediterranean. It's an area of stony semi arid land and very hilly.
Smiles, smart man
Professor Lumumba has explained and analysed very well the history of Israel-Palestine conflict on many of the issues which alot of us didn't apart from acknowledging that it is a religious war.Surely the only way out is the two state solution despite the challenges
Impeccable submission, greetings from Accra Ghana ❤
Is there any Record of any World Major Problem not requiring Force for its solution ?
From the Creation of Israel and Nakba for Palestinian. Palestine has been colonise in manner South Africa and Africa was colonised.
Small error, Prof: Balfour Declaration came in 1917, not 1948. Cheers
True...though he also has many errors in this presentation