The Only Honda You Shouldn't Buy

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  • @scottykilmer
    @scottykilmer  2 года назад +40

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    • @jayfeliciano299
      @jayfeliciano299 2 года назад +2

      I have a 2007 Odyssey with VCM. What do you recommend as to how to disable the feature?

    • @joel76
      @joel76 2 года назад

      Why is there Japanese only OBD2 and universal ones? Isn't it supposed to be an international standard? What's the difference?

    • @swisschocolatecake4547
      @swisschocolatecake4547 Год назад

      When they assemble these Honda vehicles in the usa they have mechanical issues compared to when there assemble in Japan they have no mechanical issues and they last forever

    • @chillcannongames5758
      @chillcannongames5758 Год назад

      So. Do the problems still apply to the 2007.

  • @kennethsword551
    @kennethsword551 2 года назад +98

    Still driving my 2002 Odyssey-LX. 379,024 miles. Take care of it and it will do you well.

    • @DavidNew-g8u
      @DavidNew-g8u Месяц назад +1

      They will, the only problem is most people tend to neglect their transmission services as well as timing belt services. I have 293k miles on my 06 Odyssey and not only does the transmission still shift great, but the engine still runs like new.

    • @kenedward4585
      @kenedward4585 16 дней назад +1

      @@DavidNew-g8u Did you have to replace stuff like gaskets, starter, etc?

    • @DavidNew-g8u
      @DavidNew-g8u 13 дней назад

      @@kenedward4585 I did have to replace the starter back when I first got it, but I have not had to replace any seals yet.

    • @DavidNew-g8u
      @DavidNew-g8u 13 дней назад

      @@kenedward4585 I also had to put an alternator in it recently as well, but given I only paid $1,500 for it, had it for three years, and put 77,000 miles of problem free driving on it, I’ve gotten my money’s worth for sure.

  • @nathanjernigan5902
    @nathanjernigan5902 8 месяцев назад +30

    Sorry Toyota boy, Honda perfected what Chrysler created. The Odyssey has consistently been the best ever since the Caravan quit dominating

    • @PopBandit
      @PopBandit 2 месяца назад +2

      Lol tell their transmissions that

    • @AminaSheik-n2d
      @AminaSheik-n2d 2 месяца назад +1

      I agree,honda outdoes that Toyotas by miles,according to beats the Camry,type r walks a gr yaris,and odessy beats its Toyota equivalent

    • @NateCraven318
      @NateCraven318 22 дня назад

      ​@@PopBanditPost-2007. My 2006 has had no issues

    • @2tallnegrito7cmn55
      @2tallnegrito7cmn55 20 дней назад

      ​@@PopBanditThe transmission issues are with the 2nd gen(99-05). That was when honda gave it a bigger engine, but in the 3rd gen they put the titan trans in it.

  • @franko078
    @franko078 2 года назад +65

    Id rather have to change a timing belt once 100k miles than have the plastic guides break on a GM without warning at any time

  • @SemiDad
    @SemiDad 2 года назад +79

    My 2007 EX-L had 200,000 miles and was still going strong. Just regular maintenance. Loved it!

    • @jameswhite1319
      @jameswhite1319 2 года назад +1

      I what to win

    • @justinmiles87
      @justinmiles87 Год назад +6

      I'm currently at 225,000 on my 2014 EX-L and also just regular maintenance. Love our van.

    • @dashriprocks
      @dashriprocks Год назад

      @@justinmiles87 did you change the timing belt

    • @christopherhaak9824
      @christopherhaak9824 9 месяцев назад

      I have 303k miles on our 2007 exl. It runs perfectly. They work great if you change your tranny fluid every 30k.

    • @WreckItRalph99
      @WreckItRalph99 8 месяцев назад +1

      Last owner of my 07 odyssey replaced belt and water pump at 115k miles. Now it has 186k miles, you think its due soon?

  • @JCsJennifer726
    @JCsJennifer726 2 года назад +174

    I had a 1998 Honda Odyssey and it literally ran and ran and ran without having any problems whatsoever. I gave it to my son and he and his girlfriend absolutely loved it. Then I finally sold it when I purchased my Honda FIT in 2019. The 25 year oid who bought it trashed it within a few months. It was such a wonderful car. I wish I had not sold it

    • @olafharoldsonnii4713
      @olafharoldsonnii4713 2 года назад +7

      Damn

    • @swisschocolatecake4547
      @swisschocolatecake4547 Год назад +7

      That's because it was assembled & built in Japan

    • @paniniman6524
      @paniniman6524 Год назад

      @@swisschocolatecake4547 You're the type of guy to gobble up a japanese man's turd because it's "made in japan"

    • @Matanumi
      @Matanumi Год назад +4

      @@swisschocolatecake4547 oh that first gen?
      I have a second gen- made in canada.... pretty good at 447km pretty amazing.

    • @123demaio
      @123demaio Год назад +1

      I put to.much oil in my odyssey plugs fowled..wonder if I ruined the engine?

  • @scottieledford9371
    @scottieledford9371 7 месяцев назад +3

    2010 Odyssey at 330,000 miles and first repair of a solenoid and alternator this weekend! Shooting for another 100,000 plus miles! Ams oil is helping this long journey so I drive until it falls apart! I have replace front end joints but still on factory shocks too. Take care of them and they can last even with the afm system.

    • @kenedward4585
      @kenedward4585 16 дней назад

      Did you have your gaskets and engine mounts replaced?

  • @justindavis1546
    @justindavis1546 2 года назад +41

    Loved my 2005 Honda Odyssey. Put many 95,000+ miles on it (not including the 2,563 ship ride it took from Honolulu to Long Beach). Gave me eleven years of worry free driving.

  • @490Believer
    @490Believer 2 года назад +33

    Depends on how it is maintained. Just sold my 2003 Odyssey that has 302986 miles. Never had any issues. My daughters are grown so not needed anymore.

  • @tiagoj8020
    @tiagoj8020 2 года назад +36

    What's wrong with a Odyssey? Specifically 2019? You said 2006 so the van is 16+ years old and has very little wrong with it? Sounds like a win to me!

    • @AndrewFaust-x1e
      @AndrewFaust-x1e 5 месяцев назад +4

      Well there's nothing really wrong with Odyssey's. It's just that Honda automatic transmissions are the weak points. If you are someone who drives hard, a Honda may not be best for you because you'll burn them out. If you're a conservative driver, they're great and can last a long time. The 1st generation Odyssey's were terrible and constantly broke down and Honda had to replace a bunch of them for free. But they've come a long way since. If you own any Honda model, you just have to change the rubber timing belt every 100,000k miles because they are interference engines. But as long as you maintain them, Honda's are excellent cars. There's nothing particularly wrong with them.

  • @YA-ee9zf
    @YA-ee9zf 2 года назад +186

    how was it maintained is the real question the other day I was helping out a Toyota Camery owner with an over heated engine I asked him when did you change its oil the man didn't even know that oil goes in cars

    • @cam-vv4lc
      @cam-vv4lc 2 года назад +62

      Shouldn't be allowed to own a car

    • @ocrapo9327
      @ocrapo9327 2 года назад +6

      Them poor britches.

    • @desi4lyfe379
      @desi4lyfe379 2 года назад +5

      Why we need to change an oil? New generation needs a newer technology. I find it dumb to change oil, brake fluid etc. Why cant we design vehicles which don't need this dumb maintenance?

    • @garyowen3662
      @garyowen3662 2 года назад +31

      @@desi4lyfe379 Maintenance isn't dumb.
      Even healthy relationships and
      marriages need maintenance.
      And the payoff in cars and
      partners is almost always worth
      the effort.

    • @dogsdroolllquinavancepasre6756
      @dogsdroolllquinavancepasre6756 2 года назад +18

      @Nelson
      Try going across the country with an e car. Constantly searching for charging stations, and they don’t have them everywhere, like gas stations. You have to recharge every 2-4 hours and the charge can take from 2 1/2 hours to 12 hours, depending on the charging stations you find, if you happen to find any. It can take a couple of months just to drive across the country that way, and it’s a freaking nightmare! Go ahead ask me how I know.

  • @HomerJ3409
    @HomerJ3409 2 года назад +46

    I had a 2007 Honda Odyssey. Best car I ever owned. Like others, I wished i still had it. Never had anything go wrong with it. Just did the regular maintenance. Had over 150000 miles when we sold it.

    • @mennyvega9707
      @mennyvega9707 Год назад

      I have one for sale i a headache

    • @lukzaj8335
      @lukzaj8335 Год назад +1

      I have 2006 that just crapped out. It rusted thru and rear spring went thru the body collapsing rear wheel. What an amazing machine that was and still kinda is. 230k miles

    • @DangLinWang999
      @DangLinWang999 Год назад +1

      I have a 2007 with 297k and still going strong. Everything works like a dream

  • @stevenkistler5063
    @stevenkistler5063 2 года назад +29

    I'm sitting here watching this video in my 01 civic with 329k miles. Can confirm that Honda's go forever if you take care of it. Just changed my oil on mine.

  • @energy102
    @energy102 2 года назад +7

    Mine (2004) has 150K....love it...no problems. Do have a noisy AC but still cool. It has never stranded me anywhere.

  • @rogerwhiting9310
    @rogerwhiting9310 2 года назад +115

    Whe I bought my 04 Sienna I looked at the Odyssey too. EVERYTHING about the Odyssey was nicer...but the history of transmission problems did it for me. 10 years later and the Sienna is still going strong at 150k miles.

    • @pleappleappleap
      @pleappleappleap 2 года назад +9

      I miss the Previa.

    • @nickmalone3143
      @nickmalone3143 2 года назад +5

      I looked sienna and it was cramped with less powerful engine

    • @rogerwhiting9310
      @rogerwhiting9310 2 года назад +6

      @@nickmalone3143 I actually like the Odyssey better. It has LOTS more problems than the Sienna...transmission is a big issue. I went for reliability.

    • @nickmalone3143
      @nickmalone3143 2 года назад +4

      @@rogerwhiting9310 i never had any tranny problems ...shifted like it was new at 190k miles. I of course changed fluids

    • @dort5436
      @dort5436 2 года назад +6

      My first van was an Odyssey. It was noisy and was destroyed by timing belt change that mechanic did poorly. 2006 Seinna was the replacement. I bought it new without a test drive. Just friends giving great reviews. It's a great van at 268,000 miles

  • @Krakondack
    @Krakondack 6 месяцев назад +4

    The timing belt service also changes water pump, and re-seals the timing cover. Usually involves valve clearance adjustment and cam cover gasket. By contrast, the Sienna has a timing chain, but the timing cover is notorious for leaking, and the engine has to come out to fix it. Water pump also goes out, and it's a difficult job. By doing everything at once in a car designed to have it all done with engine in, the Honda suddenly doesn't look so bad.

  • @chrisisgay2228
    @chrisisgay2228 Год назад +4

    2007 honda oddysey I never had a problem 180,000 miles now but always had the maintenance done! Still drives like new! Lucky me

  • @gregdavidson5784
    @gregdavidson5784 2 года назад +20

    I’ve got an 08 odyssey with 166,000 miles and it has the cylinder deactivation system and I have no problems. No oil burning, runs great. I’ve had it 2 years and fixed nothing. Scotty always says how bad these vans are but I don’t see it. I love my odyssey

    • @seannj427
      @seannj427 2 года назад

      Happy for you. Guess you got a good one. My 07 ody was great but a lemon. Happy travels

    • @dbabyzo
      @dbabyzo 10 месяцев назад

      I have an 07 Exl little problems here just paint problem general maintenance still runs great

    • @StellarFella
      @StellarFella 7 месяцев назад

      He's wrong about the Odyssey.

  • @jaygrosse8365
    @jaygrosse8365 6 месяцев назад +2

    We have loved our Odysseys. The ‘99 did need a new transmission at 135,00 miles (Honda covered half the cost) and we have 292,000 miles on our 2007 with VCM. It uses no oil and is showing no signs of getting tired yet. Repairs costs have been close to zero since new, but I spare no expense for maintenance items, which I do myself.

  • @jrice07
    @jrice07 Год назад +18

    We've had two Odyssey's, 2006 and 2013. Both vans have ran without major issue for the life of the vehicle. Quite literally as long as you change the oil and fluids on time there isn't anything else going to go wrong. We've gotten over 100k miles per van which is more than I ever expected. The only issue with the cylinder deactivation is if the VCM seal goes bad, it will leak oil onto the alternator. Simple and cheap fix.

    • @pearl_kill_Gaming
      @pearl_kill_Gaming Год назад +1

      Got 160k on mine. Still need to get a timing belt done. Got it at 90k. Still running strong though.

    • @OnlyHuman2.0
      @OnlyHuman2.0 Год назад +5

      I got 258k miles on my 99 toyota camry. If you think 100k is the best a vehicle can do, you're clueless.

    • @andresfontanez3016
      @andresfontanez3016 Год назад +1

      I have a 2004 Honda Odyssey. My dad was the original owner and I inherited it. It has 110,000 miles on it. He always put in premium gas and took it to the dealer and it runs great. My question is....How do I check if the timing belt was swapped? How do I check the cylinder deactivation/VCM seal?... I am a newbie but I was able to change the oil filter myself in a day of research so I'm competent enough as a Do It Yourselfer I'd say

    • @pillowcasey
      @pillowcasey Год назад

      Idk about simple

    • @jayski8987
      @jayski8987 9 месяцев назад

      @@andresfontanez3016 your 2004 doesn’t have VCM. VCM wasn’t introduced on the Odyssey’s until the 3rd gens in 2005.
      I own a 2004 EX myself with 248k miles. They’re good vans, just keep the transmission serviced regularly and get an external filter and cooler.

  • @swamp-yankee
    @swamp-yankee 2 года назад +9

    A carpenter friend of mine came from the PNW, and he said all the south and Central American drywallers use odysseys. He said they’ll take the back seats out, and stack sheets 16 deep in the back.

  • @princeru3394
    @princeru3394 2 года назад +7

    I have a 1994 odyssey literally the first gen, still on its original engine that still pulls, original tranny that shifts nicely, ac that can moist up the windows,
    Even if i havent used it for a week, the engine takes less than 2 seconds to start up without any problem at all. Since its the first gen, conventional doors, no sliding mechanism to worry about 👌

    • @seannj427
      @seannj427 2 года назад +3

      You’ve got yourself the vehicle equivalent of a pot of gold.

  • @Chubbycat748
    @Chubbycat748 2 года назад +10

    i did the "Buy the same model again" mistake. But I went back and fixed the first car (chevy), so now I have two of them that still work.

  • @ralphlasalle4075
    @ralphlasalle4075 2 года назад +11

    I’m now on my 3 Odyssey over 15 years. Never had any problems at all! Our current 2022 gets 31 MPG on the Highway with cylinder deactivation.

  • @cooldude672
    @cooldude672 2 года назад +15

    Have a 2012 EXL 130k and a 2018 Touring 65k. No problems with transmission. I made sure i changed the transmission fluid as per scotty's recommendation. I looked at reviews comparing 2018 odyssey vs sienna and odyssey always wins. Also odyssey has 8 adult passenger seating and better infotainment system.

  • @jointhefist1016
    @jointhefist1016 2 года назад +40

    My parents bought those of the early year Honda odysseys, brand new. It drove about 500K miles, then someone hit the rear bumper and it got written off.

    • @brando3098
      @brando3098 Год назад +3

      Odysseys 2010 and before are the best Vans on the road Inmo

    • @zerosoma33
      @zerosoma33 Год назад +2

      That’s the way to do it. Had the same thing happen to a Solara

  • @lorenzosilvo333
    @lorenzosilvo333 7 месяцев назад +1

    We own a 2014 Honda odyssey with just over 230,000 miles on it. original trans and engine. We have no problems, a good reliable minivan.

  • @m.t2535
    @m.t2535 2 года назад +14

    I bought an 06 odyssey touring in 09 with 25,000 miles. I still have it and it has over 302,000 miles. Has the original engine and transmission. I kept both serviced and I’m getting ready to replace the timing belt for the third time. Engine burns very little oil and transmission fluid is still cherry red color. I’ve done basic repairs, but nothing major. I’ll keep it till I have to drag it to the scrap yard. We replaced it with a 19 cr v . I love it too.

    • @samh6761
      @samh6761 2 года назад +1

      Nothing wrong with a timing belt, IMO. Can it make an expensive mess if you neglect it? Sure! If you neglect to change the oil you'll destroy your engine too! Just do the maintenance.

    • @lloydandbethbeiler8127
      @lloydandbethbeiler8127 Год назад +1

      Had a 2005 with 330k miles--- loved it till my wife demolished it. Got a 2011 "lightning" Odyssey --- hate it with a passion--+ float boat, with horrendous steering and body roll--- just like my Father's Oldsmobile--+ Honda had truly lost its way.

  • @jeffsond
    @jeffsond 8 месяцев назад +1

    We had a 2009 Odyssey as of 2 days ago. 266,000 miles. Nothing major had been done to this vehicle. Started burning oil about the 200,000 mile mark. I just added a quart between oil changes. The wife totaled the van 2 days ago. After looking at reviews on vans, I think we will buy a Sienna.

  • @davinp
    @davinp 2 года назад +20

    The Japanese automakers (Toyota/Honda) don't use cheap cloth that the American brands do

  • @jameskidd1710
    @jameskidd1710 2 года назад +22

    Scotty, Ive had at least 5 Honda Odysseys. Never any significant maintenance issues. However, I never put more than 100000 miles on them. Each time I bought, I compared it to the Seneca and found the Odyssey a better value in price and appearance.

    • @gmanbaz
      @gmanbaz 2 года назад +9

      It's called a sienna if you're talking about Toyota. But good for you. 👍

    • @lightspeeddan8263
      @lightspeeddan8263 Год назад +1

      Sure, almost any car can make it 100,000

  • @ihteshamkhan4696
    @ihteshamkhan4696 2 года назад +7

    we had a 2007 for about 8 years and it was bulletproof, no transmission issues except for one issue which made the D light flash but once the sensor was replaced it worked fine

  • @blackswan7568
    @blackswan7568 2 года назад +33

    Back in middle school, my best friend's dad had one of these vans (same generation). There were plenty of times that we filled up all the seats (he would have all of his friends over at one time), and the car was very roomy and had a nice ride. However, they often had problems with the electrical system (windows, sliding doors, etc.). They still said it was a decent car, and I made some good memories in it🙂

  • @mikesievers1482
    @mikesievers1482 2 года назад +27

    Used to own a 2001 odyssey 4wd (RA 7 series) with the 2.3 4 cylinder. Probably the most reliable car I've ever owned. Never spent anything on part's, except for a leaking rear diff seal and servicing. Had 280,000 miles on it when I sold it to a local school teacher and it still drove great. Still see it around town occasionally. Would hate to think what mileage it has now.

    • @tonymanero5544
      @tonymanero5544 2 года назад +4

      That Honda is an Isuzu.

    • @shanebroom9173
      @shanebroom9173 Год назад

      The 4 cylinder models of these vans from 1995 to 2001 which I think was the last year or so of the 2.2L non vtec to the 2.2L vtec and then to the 2.3L vtec motor in them those motors held up and so did the transmissions behind them still had to do the timing belt every 100,000 miles or so but hell I had a 1995 odyssey with the 2.2L non vtec model the car had 429,xxx miles on it before the speedometer sensor went and I was already trying to sell the car so when it stopped counting miles I put probably another 30,000 miles or so on it and told the next person who ended up buying it from me and she was cool with it it had a new timing belt and water pump and tires on it and new tie rod ends and new brakes aswell only thing it didn’t have was ac cause it needed a new condenser and also new ac lines and I had already put so much into it and was ready for a new car so I was ready to part with it and sold it for $1800 2 weeks later the lady called me and said it wouldn’t start she told me what was going on and I said pay for my gas to come get you take the part off that I knew was the problem took it to the closest autozone and warrantied the part out and put it back in and she gave me a $100 for saving her $600 between diag fees labor and the shops upcharge on the part so hey it was a damn good car she had me fix the speedometer sensor and the ac lines and condenser and she has a good van that is still running to this day I recently called her and she texted me back and forth and said soon she wants me to change the timing belt on it she drove it to florida and back for work for 2 years when I lost track of her and she said outside of brake pads she hadn’t done anything to it and it has 505,000 miles on the dash now and so it is probably in the range of 535,000 true miles on the original motor and transmission and I am going to most definitely warranty out the timing belt tensioner and the water pump to get those free and make her pay me for my time in labor and for the belt just because I love the car I told her if she ever sells it to call me I want first dibs even tho she said it burns about a quart of oil every 1,000 miles and thats about right it burned a quart of oil when I sold it to her about every 1100 miles I even sold it to her with a free 6 quarts of extra oil in the back with a funnel and that I’m sure she appreciated but hey all I gotta say is if I get a comment in 2 years from now on this comment saying now way I will update the mileage that is on it or if it has had a motor done or yada yada yada cause I honestly want to know how long it will last myself that is the whole reason I even kept up with the lady

  • @504GHOST
    @504GHOST 2 года назад +17

    Yeah, I've got an 11' Pilot. It has that cylinder deactivation crap... That's the only thing I don't like about it. Got 180k on it. Changed the T Belt at 140k, and everything else is original...

  • @garypritchard9787
    @garypritchard9787 Год назад +3

    We have a 2011 Odyssey with 144k and have had no problems outside of the front brakes being too light for the weight, but I installed vented rotors all the way around to dissipate the heat buildup as we live in North Georgia with lots of mountain. At 100k, had the normal service- chains, etc. Honda installed under warranty new pistons and rings from the deactivation problem.

  • @raynman67
    @raynman67 2 года назад +7

    I believe Honda corrected the problems with VCM in 2014. 90,000 on my 2014 Crosstour no problems stemming from VCM system. In 2014 they changed the Motor mounts and which cylinders deactivated. If it wasn’t for the ECO light coming on, you wouldn’t even know the VCM was engaged. I was skeptical when I first purchased the Vehicle and thought about installing a VCM tuner. But to date no issues.

  • @nickmalone3143
    @nickmalone3143 2 года назад +3

    I had an oddysey and was 190k miles on it when sold ...nothing out of the ordinary on maintenance. VTEC engine never burned oil. The "active" motor mounts went bad always

  • @harrygreen6935
    @harrygreen6935 4 месяца назад +1

    I have my sister’s 2002 Honda odyssey it has 275,000+ miles on it. Still runs great & I can still work on this model.

  • @ticktock2383
    @ticktock2383 10 месяцев назад

    Bought a 2003 Odyssey with 120k miles 2 yrs ago from a health-impaired lady's family. Did not run. Dealer said it was the trans. Took a chance for $500 because the city was going to tow it. It was the brake safety switch and needed some other minor things. I have a great mechanic, like you, Scotty. Only $900 into it so far, including oil changes. Put 30k on it driving long distances and used it to clean out my rental house. No problems so far.

  • @RRXingThusie
    @RRXingThusie 6 месяцев назад

    I ended up buying one exactly like this that doesn’t have the VCM for $1,500. It had 217k miles on it when I purchased it back in 2021, it’s been a great van so far since I’ve been religious with maintenance. Currently it has over 280k on it’s original engine and transmission and soon to have a new timing belt in. Great video and information Scotty!

  • @binxthekitty54
    @binxthekitty54 2 года назад +32

    Also, when Honda pairs their V6 engines with an automatic transmissions, the transmissions tend to be very weak and break.

    • @NeonZX4
      @NeonZX4 2 года назад +1

      Do they have those crappy Jatco transmissions?

    • @binxthekitty54
      @binxthekitty54 2 года назад +4

      @@NeonZX4 No. Honda makes their own transmissions.

    • @GuerreroDelInfo
      @GuerreroDelInfo 2 года назад +1

      @@binxthekitty54 still crappy even though Honda makes them. They can only do manual transmissions

    • @richsweeney1115
      @richsweeney1115 2 года назад

      no, their older automatics we're weak. not for the last like 10 years though

    • @SWells679
      @SWells679 2 года назад

      There's truth to that. 3 years ago, we replaced the xmsn in our '06 Odyssey (@207k). My son's '03 Accord V6 got a new xmsn last summer (@190k). Still love Hondas.

  • @willemknol1686
    @willemknol1686 5 месяцев назад

    Just bought 2007 honda Odyssey. I love it man. Everything works

  • @familyaccount3425
    @familyaccount3425 Год назад

    I have a 2014 Odyssey 92,000 miles and runs perfect, just regular maintenance. Oil, transmisión fluid, rotor and pads and brake fluid.

  • @hedaron3787
    @hedaron3787 2 года назад +24

    Since an old Odyssey will cost you $1,000, just put a new engine and transmission in for $5,000

    • @TheAgentAssassin
      @TheAgentAssassin 2 года назад +6

      Even better , find a Saturn Vue 04-07 V6 , it has the same Honda J series engine and transmission but weighs 1,000lbs less than the Odyssey.
      The Saturn version has about 30 more HP than the odyssey as well. My 07 Saturn does about 6.5 second 0-60
      That 1,000 lb weight difference puts a lot less strain on the transmission. You can upgrade the transmission with a new torque converter that will make the tranny handle a turbo or supercharger.
      The saturn 04-07 v6 vue is underrated and unknown.
      I see them on craiglist listed as a "GM" car , but it's all Honda under the hood and transmission.

  • @cjc1103
    @cjc1103 Год назад +1

    I have a 2012 Honda Odyssey, and it's mostly trouble free. 204K and the engine uses almost no oil between changes (5K). You need to replace the valve timing and serpentine belts, also spark plugs, every 100K. Like any car, regular transmission fluid changes will help longevity. The big repair I had recently was the sliding door control module, that was $1300 with labor, and you can only get the part from a dealer (or a used on from a junk yard, but I wouldn't bother with that, unless you're handy with tools, the box is hard to get to). But all cars have these black box modules, any one of them could fail.

    • @ironrobin
      @ironrobin 7 месяцев назад

      Half a year later is it still going?

  • @bohan9957
    @bohan9957 2 года назад +6

    I moved away from Honda/Acura products since 2011 ever since they came out with that VCM and auto start/stop crap. Been a happy Toyota/Lexus owner ever since.

    • @gmanbaz
      @gmanbaz 2 года назад +2

      Toyotas and Lexus do that on their higher trim levels too.

  • @999thenewman
    @999thenewman 2 года назад +75

    We need karate chop and kung fu sound effects every time Scotty moves his hands around

  • @mikegonzalez8071
    @mikegonzalez8071 2 года назад +7

    Happy 4th of July Scotty! 🇺🇸🏁

  • @DavidNew-g8u
    @DavidNew-g8u Месяц назад +1

    These odysseys can be great vans if you maintain them religiously with good driving habits, but I personally prefer the Toyota Sienna because they have the timing chain instead of the belt from the time. I have an 06 EX Odyssey, I change my oil every 5k with Castrol full synthetic as well as change the transmission fluid every 30k miles. The damn thing is still on its original engine and transmission with 293k miles and the transmission still shifts great for the age and mileage.

  • @microgreensgrower3946
    @microgreensgrower3946 7 месяцев назад

    I have an 05 Sienna and it has a timing belt same as the Odyssey. It's going in for the 2nd timing belt replacement @ 200,000 miles in a couple of weeks. Wish it had a chain, not a belt for sure but we're replacing the drive belts, water pump and cam & crank seals while we're at it. It'll be good to go for another 100,000 miles down the road. Since I have had no other maintenance expenses I'm not complaining.

  • @1VaDude
    @1VaDude 2 года назад +4

    My brother bought a new 1999 Honda Odyssey EX minivan and kept it 20 years and 190,000 miles.
    It started to nickel & dime him to death in the last 3 or 4 years, but he and his wife loved it. They called it The Bus.

    • @TheAgentAssassin
      @TheAgentAssassin 2 года назад +1

      For $500 you can get a transmission upgrade that will make it run forever.

    • @stevevankeuren3621
      @stevevankeuren3621 Год назад

      @@TheAgentAssassin can you elaborate

  • @michaelcoste203
    @michaelcoste203 2 года назад +6

    Remember that the first gen Odysseys were 4 cylinder F series engines. Those did not have the same transmission issues as the later models.

  • @zenaidagarcia1585
    @zenaidagarcia1585 6 месяцев назад

    Install a VCM Tuner II for Honda Odyssey 2007 and later models. It diasables the ECO mode and prevents excessive oil burning among a couple other things. Easy install and keeps your Odyssey running for a long time a long time. Love my 2010 Odyssey.

  • @DaNolly17
    @DaNolly17 6 месяцев назад

    2015 EX-L owner here and sort of regret the purchase. Have changed 3 alternators and nobody knows why. Have heard possibly oil leaking on it. And he's right about the timing belts -- even my 2014 Nissan has a timing chain.

  • @jayhockley8841
    @jayhockley8841 2 года назад +4

    6:22 " Brake fluid level low , He really doesnt care "
    Hmm...Ya might want to check that one ..

  • @JosePrado-h7d
    @JosePrado-h7d Год назад +1

    I have a 2006 Odyssey with 271,000 miles and runs perfect; The engine or transmission was not rebuilt.

  • @Perich29
    @Perich29 2 года назад +11

    if you buy a Odyssey, get a 2010 model with EX trim or lower otherwise get a 2004 model or older.

    • @md2k8
      @md2k8 2 года назад +1

      Agreed

    • @moel-l3z
      @moel-l3z 3 месяца назад

      Could you explain why I’m only asking because I’m in the process of buying a 2014 odyssey

    • @bjones1042
      @bjones1042 2 месяца назад

      I have a 2010 EX-L at 234,000 mi and I love it!

  • @timcoleman6721
    @timcoleman6721 Год назад +1

    We owned a 2003 Odyssey and put 307,000 miles on it before selling it. Most dependable vehicle we ever owned.

  • @northwestmechanic8991
    @northwestmechanic8991 2 года назад +1

    I have an 03 Honda Odyssey EX-L with 228,687 miles on it and still going strong.

  • @LS-zk4mt
    @LS-zk4mt Год назад +5

    I had a Honda Odyssey that I had no problems with and I end up taking your advice about a sienna. That was the worst decision I ever did. The sienna wore my right tire out Even after having it aligned. The transmission doesn't feel as smooth and neither does the acceleration. The bump steer is horrible and it felt very heavy. I'm looking for another Odyssey. The interior on the sienna is clumsy with all the tracks on the floor it makes it difficult to keep clean. Sorry Scotty but this one I disagree with you. I've asked many other mechanics they've all agreed that with proper maintenance both vans are great choices

    • @ruanddu
      @ruanddu Год назад

      Curious which year you had?

  • @TheFLOMAN76
    @TheFLOMAN76 8 месяцев назад

    VCM Muzzlers are a wonderful thing for my 08 Honda Odyssey.
    Solved the on/off cylinder issue.
    It has 206,000 on it.
    Leaks a lil oil but hey, for the price, what the hell.
    Runs great now!
    Turning it into a camper van!

  • @kjamison5951
    @kjamison5951 2 года назад +1

    The 2005 Honda Fit/Jazz is also not a good choice. Gearbox bearings can go before 60,000 miles and they leak into the spare wheel well in the trunk. The bonding adhesive used to close up the spot weds holding the roof to the C-pillars will degrade and split allowing water ingress. I managed to fix mine and a mechanic replaced the $50 bearings but the labor was over $750.

  • @drewshoppy
    @drewshoppy 2 года назад +3

    Sold my 09 Subaru Forester towards the end of 2021, pocketed the cash, and inherited my parents' 2001 Honda Odyssey. It was our Sunday car growing up. Only had 135k miles on it and runs like a champ! Planning to drive it into the ground.

  • @alexisvillamayor3971
    @alexisvillamayor3971 2 года назад +3

    I sold a 2010 Honda Pilot due to transmission problems, my wife's 2005 Honda CR-V had the transmission changed and my neighbor has a 2013 Odyssey... guess? yes, the transmission does not work as it should. Great channel Scotty, you are the man.

  • @freecycling6687
    @freecycling6687 Год назад

    Well - I'm Very Glad I Watched This VIdeo! But here's the problem --- the Sienna is now hybrid only (plus, it has only barely over 100 cu. ft. of total cargo space.) The Carnival is a Kia. The Pacifica is a Chrysler. And ALL the Odyssey trim levels now have the cylinder management system. So - is the only downside to it is that it will destroy the catalytic converter after a while? And about how many miles could you expect to get out of the cat? Yes, I'm thinking that even with that problem, it might still be worth getting the Odyssey. Especially since several commenters have said that their doesn't burn oil.

  • @HoagMurkula
    @HoagMurkula 2 года назад +18

    Had one of these. No trans problems, but the power slides were ALWAYS broken, no matter how many times i tried to fix it, and they always drained the battery

    • @legendaryslayer1234
      @legendaryslayer1234 2 года назад

      Same except the battery drain part

    • @clarkjablon7965
      @clarkjablon7965 2 года назад +7

      This is actually my vehicle that he filmed. Our power sliding doors are touchy in their old age. You have to be on a level surface to ensure that they will close, even after lubricating them with white lithium grease exactly as shown in someone's RUclips video. Pretty annoying, but at least they still work and never drained the battery. Undoubtedly a very expensive repair to make them work properly, so that's a pass for me. Gotta save my money for the inevitable future air conditioning compressor repair! Fortunately, it's not daily driver vehicle anymore.

    • @legendaryslayer1234
      @legendaryslayer1234 2 года назад +1

      @@clarkjablon7965 Have you ever had an incident where the driver's side of the vent was hot and the passenger's side vent was cold?

    • @Jay-xn4wo
      @Jay-xn4wo Год назад +1

      ​@@legendaryslayer1234 I'm having the same problem on my 2011 odyssey.

  • @davinp
    @davinp 2 года назад +16

    Honda is good at making small cars, not big ones. They also only make 1 truck. It is unfortunate that their minivan isn't as reliable as the Accord sedan

    • @md2k8
      @md2k8 2 года назад +1

      Agreed

    • @applepoop10
      @applepoop10 2 года назад +5

      The Honda Ridgeline is not a truck.

    • @IamGroot786
      @IamGroot786 2 года назад +3

      @@applepoop10 Neither is the Maverick

    • @applepoop10
      @applepoop10 2 года назад +1

      @@IamGroot786 You are right.

    • @taylanlowe120
      @taylanlowe120 Год назад

      The van is reliable. Most of them you find have over 250k miles.

  • @Ant10237
    @Ant10237 Год назад

    Just bought one of those Mini vans as soon as the warranty kicked in I took it to Honda. Over 7,000$ on repairs last week. Thank god riding great.

  • @davidwitkowicz5024
    @davidwitkowicz5024 2 года назад +7

    Great Video like usual Scotty ! Drove by your place Saturday, wanted to say hi and thank you for talking me into Toyota.

  • @kavehhashemi9448
    @kavehhashemi9448 Год назад +3

    I disagree. Sure some higher trims had vcm but a tuner could fix it! My dad’s 2010 odyssey has been a great car. We got it with 160k miles and now it’s almost at 188k. I myself have driven it and have beaten the hell out of it. Driven it hard, did a few burning rubber and still runs🔥🔥. I also got a friend who had a 08 odyssey with 220k miles that’s in much worse condition than my dads and it’s still running.

  • @Hondapower23
    @Hondapower23 2 года назад

    I got a 2007 Honda Pilot EXL Navi 4WD with 236,000 miles and I’ve replaced the brakes, tires, alloy wheels, blower motor, drive belt, AC compressor, battery, and do regular oil changes and change the filters and also had the spark plugs changed out, I had my fuel injectors serviced and fixed a P0401 code issue I had due to worn out spark plugs with carbon build up that basically clogged up ,y engine with carbon build up on the EGR passages and intake manifold, throttle body, etc… all of that was cleaned and cleared out and fixed my check engine light issue. Bought the car with 196,000 miles and timing belt was done at 194,000 miles and it’s at 236,000 miles 2 1/2 years later and it’s still running and driving pretty good. It’s a nice knock around car and I use it for my independent contracting work for my side hustle job and it’s literally one of the best cars I’ve ever had so far. And lastly had my EGR valve replaced and also got a brand new drivers side window motor and regulator since it went out and never worked for like a year.

  • @pureblood2020
    @pureblood2020 2 года назад +3

    Just sold my 2007 odyssey with 218,000 miles on it. Still road like new.

  • @daewooparts
    @daewooparts 2 года назад +2

    The worst part is that most people let the dealer keep their old cat ,the used catalytic converters are worth good money as scrap & worth a couple of hundred dollars as scrap

  • @parthpatel967
    @parthpatel967 2 года назад +3

    Hope you have a great 4th of July Scotty ❤️🇺🇸👍

  • @TheBigWrist
    @TheBigWrist 2 года назад +2

    My 2012 Honda Pilot was an excellent truck until it wasn't. At 120,000 it devolved a parasitic battery drain that 2 dealers and 3 honest mechanics could not find. Sold it a year ago and bought a Highlander. So far so good.

    • @TheBigWrist
      @TheBigWrist 2 года назад +1

      @@mcc7762 ​ @MC C AC relay was the first thing I replaced. After three months of jump starts every other morning and about $1,000 in parts and diagnostic fees I got rid of it. Before this happened it was the most reliable vehicle I ever owned.

    • @markmaltais3711
      @markmaltais3711 2 года назад +3

      I can almost guarantee that it was the bluetooth module that went belly up. It's a VERY common problem with the Acura's as well. Eventually it shorts out and doesn't switch off when the car is off. Most people I know just disconnect it, or get the newer improved version for about 300$ from the dealer.

    • @TheBigWrist
      @TheBigWrist 2 года назад

      @@markmaltais3711 Yup, that was one of the things left to replace. But while looking at Toyotas I got offered more than bluebook, so I took it. I now drive a 2019 Highlander EXL AWD. Very happy with the upgrade.

  • @Yashuop
    @Yashuop 2 года назад +114

    Claim your “here within an hour” ticket right here❤️

  • @NathanCouture-pn3tn
    @NathanCouture-pn3tn Год назад +1

    My Dad got one today for $2,400 with 220,000 miles drives and looks brand new

  • @fnyack
    @fnyack 2 года назад +17

    Hey Scotty, be careful you can knock yourself out with your own hands going wild.

    • @DeezNuts-rd6ch
      @DeezNuts-rd6ch 2 года назад +3

      Sometimes I catch myself ducking out of the way while I watch 😂

    • @NeonZX4
      @NeonZX4 2 года назад +4

      It would be awesome to see his show in 3D.

  • @denmar355
    @denmar355 2 года назад +3

    I have a friend that had an 06 model that was pretty reliable. Now he has a 2018 that he bought new, and has already had problems with.

  • @johnwright3634
    @johnwright3634 8 месяцев назад

    I have 2006 with the cylinder deactivation, 245k. Just sold it to my son. Haven't had to many problems with it. I did have the control valve for the cylinder deactivation go out, a tranny mount break and the AC compressor shaft sheer. Other than that, it has jut been scheduled maintenance and replacement of normal wear items. My mom has the 2006 with the tow package. Yes the tranny has gone out. Been hearing the Honda transmissions just are not durable enough to handle heavy loads. Our 2013 Honda Odyssey, well that is another story all together. One problem after another.

  • @dilbertjunkmail
    @dilbertjunkmail 4 месяца назад +1

    Currently driving my third Odyssey. All were great dependable family Vans w/various issues Scotty discussed like Timing Belt replacement around 100k. My 3 Vans as follows
    2013 Ody: 205K still own
    2009 Ody: 150k Coil issues, $5k 2004 Ody: 360k Tran@150k, $5k

  • @crswro1690
    @crswro1690 2 года назад +1

    i became a huge fan of the honda vans, but not the odyssey. living in japan, i have whats called a Stepwagon with the 4cyl K20A engine. one of if not the most reliable vehicles i have ever owned. close 2nds were my Toyota Townace van and my Toyota Hiace Grandcabin Van.

  • @Zebra_3
    @Zebra_3 2 года назад +2

    5:03 Galveston is my fave Glen Campbell song...Happy 4th of July to all you Americans!

  • @ThatVidtv
    @ThatVidtv Год назад +2

    Just got one , a 2007 odyssey touring , I would really pay whatever just for you to diagnose if anything needs to be fixed in mine .

    • @Mikeandnattravel
      @Mikeandnattravel 9 месяцев назад

      How is the odyssey holding up so far ? I’m thinking buying one around that year .

  • @jumpierwolf
    @jumpierwolf Год назад +1

    We've owned 2005 odyssey for around 6 years now. It was perfect until a couple years now the amount of problems this thing has had is crazy. It's mostly electrical stuff but it's getting too expensive to maintain. We're finally replacing it and booked a Sienna and are currently waiting on that.

  • @vanheath5382
    @vanheath5382 Год назад

    2007 Odyssey 170,000 miles. Power Steering Pump has been replaced 3 times, Rack & Pinion had to be replaced at 100k. Every time I’ve taken it to the Dealership for something to get fixed they’ve broken something else. Never ever take your car to the dealership after the warranty runs out. They screw you every way possible.

  • @MattBlack6
    @MattBlack6 2 года назад +1

    It's a pity you get the giant North American Odyssey vans only and not the Asian smaller version.
    We had the smaller version in Australia. 2006 with the 2.4lt K series engine, timing chain engine. Sold it about 18 months ago with 408,000 kms (255,000 miles) and it still ran like a dream.
    I drain and refilled about 2/3 litres of transmission fluid every year or so, using genuine fluid that I purchased from a dealer in the USA funny enough (shows you what a rip off Australian dealer prices are).
    Freezing cold aircon, heated seats (don't need them in Australia) and piles of room for a 5 person family.

    • @jeremyf9124
      @jeremyf9124 2 года назад

      Small vans like my 2007 Mazda 5 don’t sell well in America. Minivans are seen as uncool in the USA, so people are willing to buy them basically only when the offer maximum utility (full size).

    • @MattBlack6
      @MattBlack6 2 года назад

      @@jeremyf9124 I hear Disneyland had to dig the floating rides deeper because Americans are now so heavy.

  • @jamescontrino5099
    @jamescontrino5099 2 года назад +6

    Also odyssey only available in v6 Jmotor since 96. Got ya Scotty 😉

    • @jesussolorio8437
      @jesussolorio8437 2 года назад

      Last 4 cylinder odyssey was the 98 model

    • @mikesievers1482
      @mikesievers1482 2 года назад

      @@jesussolorio8437 depends what country you live in. I had an 01/02 odyssey 2.3 4 cylinder and 4wd. Don't think north America got 4wd or 4 cylinder versions after 98 ?

  • @MW-fr7bx
    @MW-fr7bx Год назад

    “It doesn’t get hot in Pennsylvania for that long”.
    I had my house’s central air on a few times this year already(It’s only February).
    My car AC is on at least half the year

  • @ericgilliland6140
    @ericgilliland6140 2 года назад +3

    I had a 2008 honda pilot that the transmission went out dispite keeping up with the maintenance.

  • @Technocrat.
    @Technocrat. 2 года назад +1

    I hate power sliding doors with a passion. I Had a Odyssey 2001, fully loaded, Sliding doors constantly seized or froze, needed new slider wheels.

    • @richardlugar6868
      @richardlugar6868 2 года назад +2

      Had the same Honda and loaded with console copiers many times, but never a stuck sliding door. Gave me 20 years of excellent service.

  • @RR-iq8ze
    @RR-iq8ze Год назад +1

    Can't watch the whole thing. So, what is the final verdict? Buy or don't buy. What if you already have one with a lot of little problems. 107K miles.

  • @jamescontrino5099
    @jamescontrino5099 2 года назад +4

    Those are great vans but hard to work on when they start leaking

  • @juggernautgrant
    @juggernautgrant Год назад

    Mine is a 2007 232k miles running like a champ!

  • @Troy.PeaceOfMindRoof
    @Troy.PeaceOfMindRoof Год назад +1

    I'm confused. It says the only Honda you shouldn't buy, but in the video all I heard were good things?

  • @bjkjoseph
    @bjkjoseph 2 года назад +2

    Minivans come in pretty handy you can pack it with people or all your stuff

  • @MountaineerMapleDIY
    @MountaineerMapleDIY Год назад +2

    I have a 2008 Odyssey. It has 222,100 miles as of this morning. Still runs great. I changed the alternator at 190,000 and water pump and timing belt at 150000. It has been a great van.

  • @DavidLGood
    @DavidLGood 2 месяца назад

    We gave away our Toyota Sienna and purchased a 2007 Honda Odyssey for one reason: it can flat tow behind a motorhome all four wheels down. Have we had issues with it? Sure, but probably the typical stuff you'd see in a vehicle with over a quarter million miles on it (and that's not counting the miles where the van is flat-towed behind a motorhome, which are probably a lot harder on the van). The 2005 - 2010 models are essentially the same. I'd love to know how to disable that variable valve thing Scotty was talking about. And as far as dealers go -- the BEST way to get ripped off is to go to a dealership. I have my transmission rebuilt... and a few months later found myself at a Honda Dealer for a repair (I didn't have a choice -- no other shop could take me inside of six weeks)... and the Honda Dealer came back to me with $14,000 worth or "CRITICAL/URGENT REPAIRS REQUIRED" based on their initial inspection. These weren't "you need to look into this" repairs -- these were safety risk repairs... stuff currently breaking or ready to destroy the engine. At least, that's how the report reads in your head. I knew what I wanted them to do and only got what I wanted done -- but it really pissed me off when I was seeing things on the "CRITICAL/URGENT/REQUIRED" list that included transmission fluids, repairs, etc. It was a freaking brand new (rebuilt) transmission. Obviously they were just ripping people off telling them that they needed repairs without actually having a qualified mechanic put eyes and ears on the vehicle. No mechanic in their right mind would have generated the list they tried to sell me (unless they were a crook). I DETEST DEALERSHIP SERVICE CENTERS!!!

  • @johnsteele8073
    @johnsteele8073 Год назад

    183,000 mi, 33.1mpg measured tank best, 2015 Odyssey running AMSOIL oil and ATF since new.