@@caske77 Bruce only met Spider-man in End-game and never officially either. He was aknowledged that he existed when he returned to Earth in Infinity Wars, but we all know Hulk never came out from that point.
@@redbird1571ahh but in the movies Bruce and hulk can communicate its shown when he's like come out I need u now and he half hulks to scream no! So hulk def knows things Bruce does
@@Protector2015 No, they haven’t. Banner literally converses with him in Infinity War and Banner talks about him like a separate person, such as in The Avengers’ famous lab scene. The Hulk was accidentally created as a second person in Bruce’s body as side effect of the gamma radiation explosion. Banner and Hulk have the same situation as Caitlin Snow and Killer Frost. Frost was a side effect of Thomas Snow’s experiments on his daughter. He performed these experiments as an attempt to cure Caitlin of the disease they share which is amyotrophic lateral sclerosis(ALS). Killer Frost is a completely separate identity from Caitlin Snow, and as proof of it ****[SPOILER FOR THE FLASH CW TV SHOW - Frost eventually gets her own body, separate from Caitlin’s - SPOILER FOR THE FLASH CW TV SHOW].**** Banner and Hulk do not share memories, nor do Caitlin and Frost. However, their situation is completely different from that of Moon Knight. Marc Spector unintentionally created Steven Grant when he pretended to be the brave adventurer Steven Grant to avoid his mother’s abuse from hurting him mentally. Marc and Steven *used* to be the same person, but they split as a result of Marc’s coping mechanism and Steven got his own identity. This is called Dissociative Identity Disorder(DID). Hulk did not exist before the explosion, and Frost did not exist before the experiments. Steven was _always_ a part of Marc’s identity, but Marc made Steven get his own. Wanda Maximoff is commonly brought into this conversation, because some people think the Scarlet Witch is a separate character from Wanda. This is not true. The Darkhold acts a drug which which causes the most selfish and dangerous parts of Wanda to come to the surface and take precedence/control over her good parts. Wanda _is_ the Scarlet Witch. _Wanda_ hunted America. _Wanda_ destroyed Kamar-Taj & massacred the Sorcerers. _Wanda_ murdered the Illuminati. And finally with a clear mind from her madness, _Wanda_ dropped the mountain on herself, allowing her to die and escape the immense pain she felt. The Scarlet Witch didn’t do any of those things because there _isn’t_ a Scarlet Witch. Just as there’s no Captain America, only Steve Rogers, or no Iron Man, only Tony Stark: there’s only Wanda Maximoff.
Personally I prefer Bruce over Hulk, he’s much more interesting as a character than the rampaging monster who speaks like a caveman but can punch real hard.
@@Churrowhispererthat rampaging monster had an incredible story arc and character development that was thrown in the shitter. Planet Hulk, World War Hulk, just off the top of my head
@@thewanderer4336 those two stories you mentioned were part of the same arc, and can be boiled down to just a bunch of fighting, either on sakaar or in New York, the most character development that happens is hulk’s pregnant wife dies which makes hulk angry, and angry hulk is not exactly a new and interesting concept.
So let’s say if a dead MCU character were to come alive like Ironman, would he remember Peter also since rhodey allegedly was captured by the skrulls since civil war and kept in a coma for all those years and reawakened, would he remember Peter as well
@@Jackferrett6781 I miss nothing. She doesn't read minds, she's a physical empath. She can only feel feelings and manipulate them. She only knows Star Lord loves Gamora because she felt his feelings of love first, then when he looked at Gamora it got stronger.
@LopezCreations cuz he "breaks the fourth wall" bro, dude just said that Deadpool probably has the power to watch all the mcu movies because of his "higher consciousness" or "advanced awareness" or whatever you wanna call it but yea, he just knows stuff about the real world
@@LopezCreations He also technically doesn't exist in the same universe... yet... but is aware of all the movies because of his 4th Wall Breaking, like he literally called out the fact that Cable and Thanos have the same actor in Deadpool 2 even though he's never met Thanos. Plus Once Upon a Deadpool directly calls out Disney buying Fox and he did a video talking to Korg about how to get into the MCU so he is aware of those movies even if he's never met those characters. But the spell wouldn't have effected him anyway since he isn't in the same universe. Doctor Strange's spell only effects the people in the MCU knowing that version of Peter Parker.
A theory that Wong also knows since he had a protection spell against what Strange did. Also probably would not take long for Daredevil to figure it out either.
@@Itz_mwwe don't know that yet. Just cause they didn't reveal the secret identity of Spiderman while they were talking in front of America Chavez doesn't mean they don't know who Peter is. Strange is smart enough to leave himself out of the spell and I doubt that a magical fortress like the Sanctorums would have been effected.
Everyone forgot the Connection of Peter Parker and Spider Man and the Identity Peter Parker is completely gone Spider Man is still there all know him just Peter Parker and who Peter Parker is is gone
@@saifaansyed984no bro watch doctor strange multiverse if madness .in a scene Doctor strange and wong both discuss about Peter and Spiderman to america Chavez
@@neetasharma8232they still remember spiderman, just not peter. The spell made it so everyone who had interactions with spiderman now just forgot he ever took his mask off. People forgot peter parker not spiderman. It is said in the movie and happy also says he knows aunt may from spiderman
And even if it was regular Hulk who met him, and he was in Bruce form when the spell was cast, they'd both forget since Bruce said they both know what's going on when the other is in control.
@@thenewavengers1581 No, her cabin was just an illusion projected onto the place she met Strange, he even tells her she can find a way to make up for the hex in Westview.
@@whuuuut2035 yes the cabin wasn't an illusion it was real she created it and after that when strange confront her she says and I quote :You know the Hex was the easy part but lying not so much. Then she takes the hex down and we see a every thing is destroyed and the garden was real cause strange picks an apple and says I quote :Apples real then Wanda Says I left magic behind me. Indicating that strange though it all was real and fall into her reality warping area that is why he didn't use his powers cause if you re-watch it you can see Runes.
I never understood how MJ and Ned didn't remember Peter Parker in the end of the movie... I thought the spell was that they'd forget that he was Spider-Man but not that he was their classmate and friend??...
Hulk didn’t meet Peter, Hulk was off world. When he came back he came back in the form of Bruce to warn people Thanos was coming. Even Bruce didn’t get to meet Peter until Endgame as Peter went into space during the fight against Thanos’ men, then got dusted on Titan.
They literally show you Hulk standing right behind Peter. And to think they wouldn’t talk at a funeral is crazy because Peter who made it appointment to always introduce himself to fellow Avengers by his actual name, would obviously know who Hulk is and start a conversation, and they both have Tony in common one as a peer and the other as a mentor so it makes perfect sense. Professor Hulk is also smart enough to know something is off if he can’t remember the kids name at the funeral he was talking too.
Need to see the film again, but I swear Dr. Strange added another part to the spell, and always left me wondering if Strange still knows, or has a contingency, that if something happens he can recover part of the memory. but like I said i'd need to see the film again.
I was thinking the same thing. Specially in Multiverse of Madness we see him recalling Spider-Man, but no mention of name drop. So he does remember something, just if he recalls if its Peter is unsure. Plus we don't know exactly how the spell works if it alters physical things like photos. We just know it affects parts of the memory. Since also MJ still has on the necklace and at the end we see her kind of feeling something familiar about Peter, but unsure. Just given facial expressions. So I do think Strange re-wrote the spell with a contingency plan in mind.
Quill is back on Earth. Would he still remember Peter is Spidey? It would be fun having Star Lord suddenly meeting Spidey in New York or somewhere, because Nova crashed from Xandar to Earth.
The point is that the spell made them forget that Spider-Man and Peter Parker are the same person. That was why the end of the movie had Jameson calling for Spider-Man to unmask. Everyone who fought with Spider-Man in Endgame didn't suddenly forget he was there, they would just no longer remember him from Tony's funeral.
Yeah ...they know spiderman but the man behind the mask is the one people forgot..so peter can swing and go anywhere as spiderman...but the name peterparker will be forget...they need to dig deep again and reveal again..who knows maybe venom can identify since mcu peter need to link with venom to create some trouble now he is alone..and venom has this super hive mind so that it knows that peter is spiderman something like that..but until then no one knows peter parker is spiderman
Actually, the spell that doctor strange casted at the end of the movie. Made everyone forget who Peter Parker was in general. The first spell to make everyone forget that Peter Parker was Spider-Man was broken several times thanks to peter, so it did not work.
Something I remember picking up on watching NWH the first time, is that they specifically say “nobody on earth will remember you’re Peter Parker” That WOULD mean that Nick Fury and Captain Marvel who weren’t on earth would remember him too
Nope. The purpose of the spell was to make people forget that Peter Parker is Spider-Man in EVERY UNIVERSE. Then why would it only be limited to planet earth. I think that line just means that barely anyone in space knows about Peter Parker being Spider-Man.
@@scrrin the purpose of the spell wasn’t to make people forget in every universe though. It was so everyone on earth forgot who Peter Parker was in this universe. Otherwise, it wouldn’t make sense for the other Spider men in other universes such as Tobey or Andrew? They never ever once say anything like that, but I do get your mix up
@@aaroncrockett4277 But the first failed spell was about to bring in all the villains/people from other universes who knew Peter was Spider-Man. How would the second spell stop that if it was only targeted on Earth-616 ? Did you upvote yourself, btw ?
@@scrrin the first spell accidently spread to the multiverse causing anyone who knew peter parker was spiderman to travel to the mcu. Essentially the mcu was the target because they sent the spell out like a signal saying "If you know this man is spiderman then come here". the second spell removed peter's existence from everyones memory in the mcu. effectively removing the target of the first spell. its like saying "If you know who this man is then come here" but then pointing to nobody. by removing the target of the original spell it sends everyone back, and strange then only has to clean up the small holes left behind from the few people who did manage to slip through.
@@scrrin lol, I didn’t upvote myself. Also the other guy who replied explained what I would have explained in my opinion. I’m not saying by any means that any of what I have said to be fact, just that I think that’s how they will get away with it moving forward. It’s just the fact they do explicitly say about people knowing him on earth
I'd arguee the Guardians of the Galaxy still remember since they were not ON EARTH what Dr. Strange specifically statet: Everybody on Earth is going to forget that Peter Parker is Spiderman Edit: Could have excluded Fury and Sabre as well.. depending on how close they orbit earth..
Yes I agree also. I have been saying this to my family and friends as well. Finally glad someone else remembers this too. You see the spell cover Earth not the universe. So with that also Captain Marvel remembers him too from Endgame and also Tobey and Andrew Spidermans because they are in a different universe along with their rival counterparts. Maybe even including Thor depending on the actual time this took place because he was in space doing things and was with the Guardians for a small bit.
@@aarav1724 well actually there is a theory that she didn't actually die. See, when she was shown being crushed, we saw a red light shoot into the sky right before the building stopped crumbling down. So, she could have escaped death
@nealsmall9316 not really sure, I'm looking forward to finding out tho. I reckon some characters will find out that Peter Parker is spider-man. Dr strange is going through things at the moment so maybe, because Dr strange helped spider-man, spider-man will now help Dr strange.
The weird thing is, everyone forgot peter is spiderman, but didnt forget spiderman. The remaining Avengers still remember him, they remember fighting with him (and against) in Germany, and they remember fighting with him against Thanos both times. If he went to one of them they would know him, they just would not know who he is under the mask.
yeah as in Wong was saying "I don't want to know about any spell you cast." he wasn't saying don't include me in the spell. you really think Dr Strange was going to erase the memories of everyone in the world, including himself, but he's going to leave Wongs memories alone? nah man.
The only person who remember is dr strange I think. However I think dr strange cant unlock the memories he erased of the people who were close to peter such as peter and ned. My theory is when professor x is introcuded he will help the people who were close to peter remember that he is also spiderman. We seen him unlock wolverine memories in the X-Men Movies.
Although they have only briefly met in the MCU, on screen anyway, Thor wouldn’t be under the effects of the spell because he wasn’t on Earth during this time. Also, the Guardians should remember him as well due to bing in space also.
They erased the memories of the people within planet EARTH, not the universe, that means people who were off world (fury, Guardians of the galaxy, captain Marvel etc.........) and also Sorcerer supreme still remembers, because a sorcerer who is not sorcerer supreme cannot wipe the memories of the actual sorcerer supreme (only Wong can do that to other sorcerers), so that means Wong, never forgot about Peter
Wrong. They erased Peter's existence from the minds of everyone, all universes even. Otherwise it wouldn't have fixed the fact that people who knew that Peter Parker was Spider-Man were drawn into their universe and to their earth. Strange basically Thanos snapped Peter from everyone's minds.
@@Nerex7 The effect wasn't universal, it was planetary, so that means Nick Fury, Carol Danvers, Monica Rambeau, Guardians of the galaxy, Wong and Tobey Maguire/Andrew Garfield spidermen still remember Peter park, Wong remembers because the sorcerer supreme is placed higher than all the other sorcerers, so if a normal sorcerer attacks him, that attack won't hurt him as much as it will a normal sorcerer but if a spell or curse or any attack that is used to mettle with his mind is used against him by a lesser sorcerer (normal sorcerer), it will not work on the sorcerer supreme, but he can do it to them, the sorcerer supreme is invulnerable to the normal sorcerers, and the normal sorcerers are vulnerable to the sorcerer supreme. Wong also gave us a hint in She-Hulk, he said to Jennifer "No no no, we are not erasing everyones memories, no not again"
Then how come it stopped everyone from being dragged into the dimensions if it was only limited to the planet? That just makes no sense. I can get behind there being exceptions but overall, everyone forgot the existence of that Earth's Peter Parket across all universes. Otherwise it wouldn't have solved the problem. @@Sylence_165
MJ is going to have feelings for Spiderman. MJ will also have feelings for Peter. Peter is going to push things in the hopes of MJ will figure things out. Happy may also pick up on the connection he has with Peter at May's grave. I also wonder if Captain Marvel might be strong enough to over come Doctor Strange's spell and remember Peter as Spiderman.
I am not sure about hulk. But spoilers.... LOKI since at the end for Loki s2 he was so powerful that he gave life to all those timelines and he is at the center of everything. So my theory is that Loki will know Peter is spiderman. But he has never met him.
Problem with this is that the MCU has basically erased the “hulk” personality with Professor Hulk. She-Hulk made it pretty clear that Banner is 100% still himself when he transforms now
Comics did the same thing, but Hulk came back. He'll probably be back at some point. Aren't they planning a World war hulk movie? Hulk has a few different personalities. Maybe we'll get a movie with Maestro as a villain at some point.
Wanda still remember him Here why? In DSMOM when strange goes to the apple trees to talk with wanda we see that wanda is inside of the hex so it means strange magic doesnt affect wanda while she is inside of her hex
I have a theory. So you remember how when in the beginning of the movie Doctor Strange was talking to Wong he said: "do you remember that party" and Wong said "no" but doctor strange still remember the party because he casted the spell! and he also casted this spell so he probably remembers Peter!
Doctor strange remembers because as you all know, one ring on his spell is one person who remembers him, and at the end of the movie, there’s a ring around doctor strange meaning he made himself remember
They still never really met. Also, this is my biggest want for a team-up. Or even for then to just interact in any way. Always loved them together, and they have botg been my top 2, with Strange coming in 3rd.
I really liked that they gave Hulk more depth than just anger. Like I loved Ragnarok Hulk that had actual discussions and stuff and a personality that could joke around sometimes. But then Marvel decided to just entirely go overboard and replace all that growth with just deleting hulk and letting Bruce fully take over.
Maybe Hulk will have a random scrap with puny Spider in a movie scene..that might almost be enough to convince me to buy one last Marvel cinema ticket.
The only one who'll remember spider man is Thor. As when Spiderman no way home took place and Doctor strange casted the spell to make everyone forget Spiderman in Earth, Thor was with the Gaurdians in Space as shown in the movie Thor Love and Thunder
Hulk's comic powers are just crazy enough that this might work. In the comics he is channeling the literal anger of God, granting infinite strength, and the One Above definitely remembers Spidey
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One flaw, that’s professor hulk, he has Bruce’s mind. Real hulk never met Peter or spidey
Really
@@caske77
Bruce only met Spider-man in End-game and never officially either. He was aknowledged that he existed when he returned to Earth in Infinity Wars, but we all know Hulk never came out from that point.
Thats what I was thinking, since professor hulk has banner’s mind
Even kno I've seen all the movies even the new ones I remember on Shang Chi he was human and that was after endgame right so was she hulk
@@redbird1571ahh but in the movies Bruce and hulk can communicate its shown when he's like come out I need u now and he half hulks to scream no! So hulk def knows things Bruce does
Spider-Man can never catch a break
That's why he is spiderman
@@caske77. I agree with your opinion.
😂
Doctor Doom even give him a break from all of the misery
@@caske77 I wonder why the TVA didn't capture dr strange
Deadpool, when he joins the mcu, will know Peter Parker is Spider-Man for sure. He'll probably just call him Tom Holland 😂😂
Sounds about right 🤣
Exactly 😂
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If he didn’t I’d be upset
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I just realized that in the MCU, Spiderman never meets the Hulk, he only meets Bruce Banner by the time he becomes in control
Yea I don’t think people realize the Hulk is just Banner’s rage and strength out of control. They’ve always shared the same mind.
@@Protector2015 No, they haven’t. Banner literally converses with him in Infinity War and Banner talks about him like a separate person, such as in The Avengers’ famous lab scene. The Hulk was accidentally created as a second person in Bruce’s body as side effect of the gamma radiation explosion.
Banner and Hulk have the same situation as Caitlin Snow and Killer Frost. Frost was a side effect of Thomas Snow’s experiments on his daughter. He performed these experiments as an attempt to cure Caitlin of the disease they share which is amyotrophic lateral sclerosis(ALS). Killer Frost is a completely separate identity from Caitlin Snow, and as proof of it ****[SPOILER FOR THE FLASH CW TV SHOW - Frost eventually gets her own body, separate from Caitlin’s - SPOILER FOR THE FLASH CW TV SHOW].****
Banner and Hulk do not share memories, nor do Caitlin and Frost. However, their situation is completely different from that of Moon Knight. Marc Spector unintentionally created Steven Grant when he pretended to be the brave adventurer Steven Grant to avoid his mother’s abuse from hurting him mentally. Marc and Steven *used* to be the same person, but they split as a result of Marc’s coping mechanism and Steven got his own identity. This is called Dissociative Identity Disorder(DID). Hulk did not exist before the explosion, and Frost did not exist before the experiments. Steven was _always_ a part of Marc’s identity, but Marc made Steven get his own.
Wanda Maximoff is commonly brought into this conversation, because some people think the Scarlet Witch is a separate character from Wanda. This is not true. The Darkhold acts a drug which which causes the most selfish and dangerous parts of Wanda to come to the surface and take precedence/control over her good parts. Wanda _is_ the Scarlet Witch. _Wanda_ hunted America. _Wanda_ destroyed Kamar-Taj & massacred the Sorcerers. _Wanda_ murdered the Illuminati. And finally with a clear mind from her madness, _Wanda_ dropped the mountain on herself, allowing her to die and escape the immense pain she felt. The Scarlet Witch didn’t do any of those things because there _isn’t_ a Scarlet Witch. Just as there’s no Captain America, only Steve Rogers, or no Iron Man, only Tony Stark: there’s only Wanda Maximoff.
@@Protector2015 You couldn't be more wrong.
It still breaks my heart to see what they did to the Hulk in Infiniti War and End Game and even Ragnarok for that matter.
Agreed, They ruined the character in my opinion.
Personally I prefer Bruce over Hulk, he’s much more interesting as a character than the rampaging monster who speaks like a caveman but can punch real hard.
@@Churrowhisperer MCU is already full lf genius scientists, we don't need another. We need a massive green rampaging tank man
@@Churrowhispererthat rampaging monster had an incredible story arc and character development that was thrown in the shitter. Planet Hulk, World War Hulk, just off the top of my head
@@thewanderer4336 those two stories you mentioned were part of the same arc, and can be boiled down to just a bunch of fighting, either on sakaar or in New York, the most character development that happens is hulk’s pregnant wife dies which makes hulk angry, and angry hulk is not exactly a new and interesting concept.
"that's how maybe the Hulk knows who Spider-man is"
Correct
@@caske77 happy hogan was in love with her - so a few character know her. your assumption is complete BS
But Peter never meet Hulk he met him in Bruce banner mind in hulk
@@caske77 yeah, he's making fun of your weak Clickbait video skills… He's not agreeing with you.
@@evilsWadamn who hurt you
Peter remembers he is spiderman. 🗿
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the spell to make everyone forget peter was spiderman was broken the new spell was making everyone forget peter parker existed
Damnnn
That's deep
So let’s say if a dead MCU character were to come alive like Ironman, would he remember Peter also since rhodey allegedly was captured by the skrulls since civil war and kept in a coma for all those years and reawakened, would he remember Peter as well
@@saifhosein2103 I wouldn't think so. The spell was supposed to wipe anyone who knew Peter existed. Anyone
@@kadefrost218 but then that would include Hulk/Banner no matter how scrambled the mind.
Also just by her powers Mantis will remember who he is, especially if she touches him.
Her powers are emotional manipulation and empathy. She doesn't read minds
@@whuuuut2035well go back and watch it again
@@Jackferrett6781 So I know just how wrong you are? ok. Will do, though idk why you want me to be extra sure that I'm right lol
@@whuuuut2035 no, so you can see what you missed
@@Jackferrett6781 I miss nothing. She doesn't read minds, she's a physical empath. She can only feel feelings and manipulate them. She only knows Star Lord loves Gamora because she felt his feelings of love first, then when he looked at Gamora it got stronger.
Strange jumping from the balcony was the best shot in the film 😂
doctor Strange the type of guy to make only himself remember peter
What about Deadpool, he can break the fourth wall and he knows that he's in a movie so shouldn't he remember Peter
He never met Peter. So how would he know him
@LopezCreations cuz he "breaks the fourth wall" bro, dude just said that
Deadpool probably has the power to watch all the mcu movies because of his "higher consciousness" or "advanced awareness" or whatever you wanna call it but yea, he just knows stuff about the real world
Yeah.. but like the Xaviers Wade probably gets confused by which Peter they mean lol
@@matthewfoley5131 Good point
@@LopezCreations He also technically doesn't exist in the same universe... yet... but is aware of all the movies because of his 4th Wall Breaking, like he literally called out the fact that Cable and Thanos have the same actor in Deadpool 2 even though he's never met Thanos. Plus Once Upon a Deadpool directly calls out Disney buying Fox and he did a video talking to Korg about how to get into the MCU so he is aware of those movies even if he's never met those characters. But the spell wouldn't have effected him anyway since he isn't in the same universe. Doctor Strange's spell only effects the people in the MCU knowing that version of Peter Parker.
A theory that Wong also knows since he had a protection spell against what Strange did. Also probably would not take long for Daredevil to figure it out either.
But Wong can't remember the late night party at Kamar Taj
@@fajarkurniawan9434😂
Wrong didn't remember Peter. It was shown in Doctor Strange M.O.M
Predicting that Matt Murdock will figure it out and we will have a Daredevil/Spiderman crossover in the next MCU Spidey film.
@@Itz_mwwe don't know that yet. Just cause they didn't reveal the secret identity of Spiderman while they were talking in front of America Chavez doesn't mean they don't know who Peter is. Strange is smart enough to leave himself out of the spell and I doubt that a magical fortress like the Sanctorums would have been effected.
People didn’t forget Peter was spiderman, they forgot Peter. Totally different thing.
Yes they did his friends forgot who he was watch the movie again lol.
Hulk didn't even saw spider man, he doesn't even know he exists
Guys Strange still knows Spider-Man and that he used a spell to forget him. So technically he still remembers him
No dr strange even made himself forget who Peter Parker is he forgot that he casted the spell too
Everyone forgot the Connection of Peter Parker and Spider Man and the Identity Peter Parker is completely gone
Spider Man is still there all know him just Peter Parker and who Peter Parker is is gone
@@saifaansyed984no bro watch doctor strange multiverse if madness .in a scene
Doctor strange and wong both discuss about Peter and Spiderman to america Chavez
@@neetasharma8232they still remember spiderman, just not peter.
The spell made it so everyone who had interactions with spiderman now just forgot he ever took his mask off.
People forgot peter parker not spiderman. It is said in the movie and happy also says he knows aunt may from spiderman
I don't think so but it will be amazing
This happens before Doctor Strange erases him from everyone’s mind
And even if it was regular Hulk who met him, and he was in Bruce form when the spell was cast, they'd both forget since Bruce said they both know what's going on when the other is in control.
Wanda was in a hex when strange casted the spell which means she is not effected by it and still knows and remember Peter as the kid from civil war.
WandaVision happens a few weeks after Endgame, whereas No Way Home is a few months after. She would've forgotten as well.
Even tho that is true
@@darthgamer9468 she still was in a hex when strange visited her in MOM
@@thenewavengers1581 No, her cabin was just an illusion projected onto the place she met Strange, he even tells her she can find a way to make up for the hex in Westview.
@@whuuuut2035 yes the cabin wasn't an illusion it was real she created it and after that when strange confront her she says and I quote :You know the Hex was the easy part but lying not so much. Then she takes the hex down and we see a every thing is destroyed and the garden was real cause strange picks an apple and says I quote :Apples real then Wanda Says I left magic behind me. Indicating that strange though it all was real and fall into her reality warping area that is why he didn't use his powers cause if you re-watch it you can see Runes.
I never understood how
MJ and Ned didn't remember
Peter Parker in the end of the movie...
I thought the spell was that they'd forget
that he was Spider-Man but not that
he was their classmate and friend??...
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Ah okay, i must have
remembered it wrong then 😄🤷🏻♂️..
Why do you write your comments that way?
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It's an OCD thing 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️..
I feel icky if the lines don't line
up at least somewhat evenly..
@@blackwolfll6105 now isn't that ironic
@@stephengrigg5988
How so? 🙂🤷🏻♂️.
Hulk didn’t meet Peter, Hulk was off world. When he came back he came back in the form of Bruce to warn people Thanos was coming. Even Bruce didn’t get to meet Peter until Endgame as Peter went into space during the fight against Thanos’ men, then got dusted on Titan.
They literally show you Hulk standing right behind Peter. And to think they wouldn’t talk at a funeral is crazy because Peter who made it appointment to always introduce himself to fellow Avengers by his actual name, would obviously know who Hulk is and start a conversation, and they both have Tony in common one as a peer and the other as a mentor so it makes perfect sense.
Professor Hulk is also smart enough to know something is off if he can’t remember the kids name at the funeral he was talking too.
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wanda should knew him becoz during the events of nwh she is in het hex
Omg yesss, so the spell doesn't work to her
@@anis.adriana’omgggggg’ no that’s not how it works also that’s fucking zesty
@@Mattywatty122 omgggg you should've do some research before you even talking about it 💀
@@anis.adriana Wdym do research, does that mean everyone in the hex wouldn’t have been affected, if it even happened during nwh which isn’t confirmed
@@Mattywatty122 nope it's only didn't effect to wanda
Doctor Strange remembers Peter Parker in The Multiverse of Madness when he is talking to America Chavez.
he remembers Spiderman, not PP
Yeah he remembers Spider-Man, not Peter Parker.
@@depressed_firefly We don't know if he remembers PP.
Need to see the film again, but I swear Dr. Strange added another part to the spell, and always left me wondering if Strange still knows, or has a contingency, that if something happens he can recover part of the memory.
but like I said i'd need to see the film again.
I was thinking the same thing. Specially in Multiverse of Madness we see him recalling Spider-Man, but no mention of name drop. So he does remember something, just if he recalls if its Peter is unsure. Plus we don't know exactly how the spell works if it alters physical things like photos. We just know it affects parts of the memory. Since also MJ still has on the necklace and at the end we see her kind of feeling something familiar about Peter, but unsure. Just given facial expressions. So I do think Strange re-wrote the spell with a contingency plan in mind.
Dont forget captain marvel. And the guardians
Quill is back on Earth. Would he still remember Peter is Spidey? It would be fun having Star Lord suddenly meeting Spidey in New York or somewhere, because Nova crashed from Xandar to Earth.
why?
There are a lot of superheroes who remembers who spiderman is.
The point is that the spell made them forget that Spider-Man and Peter Parker are the same person. That was why the end of the movie had Jameson calling for Spider-Man to unmask.
Everyone who fought with Spider-Man in Endgame didn't suddenly forget he was there, they would just no longer remember him from Tony's funeral.
Yeah ...they know spiderman but the man behind the mask is the one people forgot..so peter can swing and go anywhere as spiderman...but the name peterparker will be forget...they need to dig deep again and reveal again..who knows maybe venom can identify since mcu peter need to link with venom to create some trouble now he is alone..and venom has this super hive mind so that it knows that peter is spiderman something like that..but until then no one knows peter parker is spiderman
everyone remembers spiderman but not peter parker
@@user-zt4ry9yj2d Yes, everyone remembers spiderman but some of them remembers who spideman is(identity of spidrman)
Actually, the spell that doctor strange casted at the end of the movie. Made everyone forget who Peter Parker was in general.
The first spell to make everyone forget that Peter Parker was Spider-Man was broken several times thanks to peter, so it did not work.
Bruce banner combined hulk's buddy with his own mind
Something I remember picking up on watching NWH the first time, is that they specifically say “nobody on earth will remember you’re Peter Parker”
That WOULD mean that Nick Fury and Captain Marvel who weren’t on earth would remember him too
Nope. The purpose of the spell was to make people forget that Peter Parker is Spider-Man in EVERY UNIVERSE. Then why would it only be limited to planet earth.
I think that line just means that barely anyone in space knows about Peter Parker being Spider-Man.
@@scrrin the purpose of the spell wasn’t to make people forget in every universe though. It was so everyone on earth forgot who Peter Parker was in this universe. Otherwise, it wouldn’t make sense for the other Spider men in other universes such as Tobey or Andrew?
They never ever once say anything like that, but I do get your mix up
@@aaroncrockett4277 But the first failed spell was about to bring in all the villains/people from other universes who knew Peter was Spider-Man. How would the second spell stop that if it was only targeted on Earth-616 ?
Did you upvote yourself, btw ?
@@scrrin the first spell accidently spread to the multiverse causing anyone who knew peter parker was spiderman to travel to the mcu.
Essentially the mcu was the target because they sent the spell out like a signal saying "If you know this man is spiderman then come here".
the second spell removed peter's existence from everyones memory in the mcu. effectively removing the target of the first spell.
its like saying "If you know who this man is then come here" but then pointing to nobody.
by removing the target of the original spell it sends everyone back, and strange then only has to clean up the small holes left behind from the few people who did manage to slip through.
@@scrrin lol, I didn’t upvote myself. Also the other guy who replied explained what I would have explained in my opinion. I’m not saying by any means that any of what I have said to be fact, just that I think that’s how they will get away with it moving forward. It’s just the fact they do explicitly say about people knowing him on earth
Hulk was sympathizing with Spiderman because of Hulk's wife Betty. Not because he knew he was Spider-Man.
"long time no see bug boy"
- Hulk, Avengers Assemble (animation)
Izuku is very sparring with the quirks he steals and uses.
Even Thor remember him😊
no
I'd arguee the Guardians of the Galaxy still remember since they were not ON EARTH what Dr. Strange specifically statet: Everybody on Earth is going to forget that Peter Parker is Spiderman
Edit: Could have excluded Fury and Sabre as well.. depending on how close they orbit earth..
Yes I agree also. I have been saying this to my family and friends as well. Finally glad someone else remembers this too. You see the spell cover Earth not the universe. So with that also Captain Marvel remembers him too from Endgame and also Tobey and Andrew Spidermans because they are in a different universe along with their rival counterparts. Maybe even including Thor depending on the actual time this took place because he was in space doing things and was with the Guardians for a small bit.
Capt marvel too. Heck if they were in the Quantam realm at the time Antman and wasp would remember as well.
And you can't tell me that Srange didn't leave a back door so that he still remembers.
Wong left the chat.
Because before the spell, wong told dr strange to leave him out of it
Spidey and hulk has got the best bromance.
This may be possible but it may not because hulk is gone and he is just Bruce now
Wanda and hulk both know about him
Why Wanda?
@@ComputerBLEW She was in magical
place that magic cant effect on her We can see it in Doctor Strange 2
@@ComputerBLEW She was learning dark hold
@@sasinduchamathka4813 oh in her secluded area in Doctor Strange 2? She was there since the end of endgame?
@@ComputerBLEWno that person’s just lying
I say Wanda would remember, since the events of WandaVision she would be in her "hex" and nobody's magic would interfere.
He may not be a "hero," but loki knows all now, so he know who spidey is.
What about scarlett witch? I swear she has a spell around her that stops other spells from affecting her???
shes dead bro 💀
@@aarav1724 well actually there is a theory that she didn't actually die. See, when she was shown being crushed, we saw a red light shoot into the sky right before the building stopped crumbling down. So, she could have escaped death
@@Shadow-B28 makes sense
@@Shadow-B28 If Spider-Man No Way home gets a sequel what do you think it would be about 🤔🤔
@nealsmall9316 not really sure, I'm looking forward to finding out tho. I reckon some characters will find out that Peter Parker is spider-man. Dr strange is going through things at the moment so maybe, because Dr strange helped spider-man, spider-man will now help Dr strange.
Probably different in the movies than it is in the comics
True
It’s crazy how even through multi verse Hulk will always remember. That’s some Mental strength.😂❤
The weird thing is, everyone forgot peter is spiderman, but didnt forget spiderman. The remaining Avengers still remember him, they remember fighting with him (and against) in Germany, and they remember fighting with him against Thanos both times. If he went to one of them they would know him, they just would not know who he is under the mask.
Wong still remembers too. He told Dr. Strange to leave him out of whatever spell(s) he casts for Peter
Nope
yeah as in Wong was saying "I don't want to know about any spell you cast." he wasn't saying don't include me in the spell. you really think Dr Strange was going to erase the memories of everyone in the world, including himself, but he's going to leave Wongs memories alone? nah man.
The only person who remember is dr strange I think. However I think dr strange cant unlock the memories he erased of the people who were close to peter such as peter and ned. My theory is when professor x is introcuded he will help the people who were close to peter remember that he is also spiderman. We seen him unlock wolverine memories in the X-Men Movies.
@@XxQuakeZxX if Spider-Man No Way home gets a sequel what do you think it would be about
everyone in the world forgets he is spiderman
thor, star lord, nick fury, and captain marvel were all off world.
universe bro
That’s what I’m hoping as well.
No he did a universal thing I think I still don't really know how that stopped people coming in from other universes tho
Wong: "Leave me out of it"
And that's the one reason why Hulk is my favorite
Although they have only briefly met in the MCU, on screen anyway, Thor wouldn’t be under the effects of the spell because he wasn’t on Earth during this time. Also, the Guardians should remember him as well due to bing in space also.
The spell was cast over the universe though, not just on Earth
They erased the memories of the people within planet EARTH, not the universe, that means people who were off world (fury, Guardians of the galaxy, captain Marvel etc.........) and also Sorcerer supreme still remembers, because a sorcerer who is not sorcerer supreme cannot wipe the memories of the actual sorcerer supreme (only Wong can do that to other sorcerers), so that means Wong, never forgot about Peter
but what about the full moon party at kamar-taj
@@itzaham5986 Wong wasn't Sorcerer supreme then
Wrong. They erased Peter's existence from the minds of everyone, all universes even. Otherwise it wouldn't have fixed the fact that people who knew that Peter Parker was Spider-Man were drawn into their universe and to their earth. Strange basically Thanos snapped Peter from everyone's minds.
@@Nerex7 The effect wasn't universal, it was planetary, so that means Nick Fury, Carol Danvers, Monica Rambeau, Guardians of the galaxy, Wong and Tobey Maguire/Andrew Garfield spidermen still remember Peter park, Wong remembers because the sorcerer supreme is placed higher than all the other sorcerers, so if a normal sorcerer attacks him, that attack won't hurt him as much as it will a normal sorcerer but if a spell or curse or any attack that is used to mettle with his mind is used against him by a lesser sorcerer (normal sorcerer), it will not work on the sorcerer supreme, but he can do it to them, the sorcerer supreme is invulnerable to the normal sorcerers, and the normal sorcerers are vulnerable to the sorcerer supreme.
Wong also gave us a hint in She-Hulk, he said to Jennifer "No no no, we are not erasing everyones memories, no not again"
Then how come it stopped everyone from being dragged into the dimensions if it was only limited to the planet? That just makes no sense. I can get behind there being exceptions but overall, everyone forgot the existence of that Earth's Peter Parket across all universes. Otherwise it wouldn't have solved the problem. @@Sylence_165
Or Wanda. We know she can shield her mind like Agatha to mind control
He did just make people forget Peter is spiderman, he made everyone forget Peter in general.
Wait a minute...
Thank you for this edit, now there are 2 superheroes that knows Spider man!
Bro cant captain marvel remember spidey😅
Also Wong would remember, assuming strange listened to him when he said "leave me out of it"
There is another person who remembers who Spiderman is. Peter him self, he didn't forget his identity!
MJ is going to have feelings for Spiderman. MJ will also have feelings for Peter. Peter is going to push things in the hopes of MJ will figure things out. Happy may also pick up on the connection he has with Peter at May's grave. I also wonder if Captain Marvel might be strong enough to over come Doctor Strange's spell and remember Peter as Spiderman.
Who knows what they'll do their storyline in Spider-Man 4🤷♂️
There is lot of superhero that remember spiderman
Dr.strange
Thor
Wanda
Bc his magic work only in Peter Universe
Bruhh
Everyone came for peter parker from multiverse
Has Loki met spider man?
But Loki haven’t met Spider-Man
everyone in the universe forgot not only earth
Dr Strange even forgot, shows it in MM
It was the same for The Sentry. He also had to spell cast on him. But he visited the Hulk and the Hulk remembered him
One thing that you forgot is., events of shangchi took place between infinity war & end game....
yup so this whole short is pointless lol
@@tophercabbaJust like the movie itself
I am not sure about hulk. But spoilers....
LOKI since at the end for Loki s2 he was so powerful that he gave life to all those timelines and he is at the center of everything. So my theory is that Loki will know Peter is spiderman. But he has never met him.
He will probably know all the identities of every Spider-Man
Yesss Spider-Man is saved also first comment
Thor knows spiderman is peter as thor was in asgard
Wong is the only one who remembers "leaves me out of this"
Problem with this is that the MCU has basically erased the “hulk” personality with Professor Hulk.
She-Hulk made it pretty clear that Banner is 100% still himself when he transforms now
Comics did the same thing, but Hulk came back. He'll probably be back at some point. Aren't they planning a World war hulk movie? Hulk has a few different personalities. Maybe we'll get a movie with Maestro as a villain at some point.
@@SuperSeriouslyJokingyeah no I'm good with further destruction of Western pop culture in the name of progressive propaganda.
Wanda still remember him
Here why?
In DSMOM when strange goes to the apple trees to talk with wanda we see that wanda is inside of the hex so it means strange magic doesnt affect wanda while she is inside of her hex
She's been there since the end of endgame?
@@twisted_legacyYaa but the question is did she know who Spiderman was in tye first place?
@@twisted_legacyshe has been in the hex after endgame in westview, n again in scene MoM
@@asimausman4996they both in civil war bruh
@@anis.adriana but that doesn't mean she knows who Peter was
As far as we know, only Devil Hulk remembers
That's my super hero , that I choose, 🙏💪❤️
There's one problem, the cast wasn't so people forget that Peter is Spider-Man, it was so people forgot Peter all together
That spin flying jump jujitsu has me in a CHOKEHOLD 😮😮😮
I have a theory. So you remember how when in the beginning of the movie Doctor Strange was talking to Wong he said: "do you remember that party" and Wong said "no" but doctor strange still remember the party because he casted the spell! and he also casted this spell so he probably remembers Peter!
Doctor strange remembers because as you all know, one ring on his spell is one person who remembers him, and at the end of the movie, there’s a ring around doctor strange meaning he made himself remember
They still never really met.
Also, this is my biggest want for a team-up.
Or even for then to just interact in any way. Always loved them together, and they have botg been my top 2, with Strange coming in 3rd.
Would’ve thought Wanda would remember Peter
I really liked that they gave Hulk more depth than just anger. Like I loved Ragnarok Hulk that had actual discussions and stuff and a personality that could joke around sometimes.
But then Marvel decided to just entirely go overboard and replace all that growth with just deleting hulk and letting Bruce fully take over.
Great theory. Spidey needs a friend bro
I felt that way about Tony starks glasses he gave to Peter those glasses Tony starks programming should remember him
honestly my favorite reveal in the comics was Hulk telling spider-man he remembers him, Hulk likes spidey and it made me happy that he rememebered him
Also Wanda because she lives inside Hex and no Magical spell can enter or work in it.
hulk remembered who peter was in the comics which suprised him
Wanda casted a spell making no spells work on her so she still remembers
nothing ever said "everyone in the universe" would forget Spidey...just Earth
Captain Marvel nd Thor still remembers him because they were on different planets
Plus Dr Strange and Wong. They both remember him in M.O.M
Bruce was only professor hulk when they met at the funeral. Even if reg hulk wasn’t affected it wouldn’t even matter sense he never met Peter.
But strange speaks about Parker in madness
this would be a perfect implementation to the story but hulk never really met Peter
The spell made everyone forget Peter entirely
That makes me feel a lot better about the whole thing.
Doctor Strange knows who he is
Also Thor since he was with the guardians of the galaxy just a suggestion
aww Dr. Strange transformation was like his own personal sailor moon transformation
But the spell made every one forget that Peter Parker ever existed.
The thing is the true hulk never comes out anymore it’s just Bruce using his body
Peter was there, so He forgets Peter.
Maybe Hulk will have a random scrap with puny Spider in a movie scene..that might almost be enough to convince me to buy one last Marvel cinema ticket.
The only one who'll remember spider man is Thor. As when Spiderman no way home took place and Doctor strange casted the spell to make everyone forget Spiderman in Earth, Thor was with the Gaurdians in Space as shown in the movie Thor Love and Thunder
Venom probably Remembers since his memories are multiversal apparently. Or something like that
Hulk and Banner became the same person though. "I put the brains and the brawn together."
Nick fury will also remember as the scrul was there when Peter was revealedp
Hulk's comic powers are just crazy enough that this might work. In the comics he is channeling the literal anger of God, granting infinite strength, and the One Above definitely remembers Spidey