My family is abusive and I had to take permanent boundaries from my family because they didn't believe my health issues and tried to take my rights away.
As awful as this is, its extremely validating to hear it voiced by people like Rob, who is an authority on the reality of what's happening to people in this system. Thank you for that.
My hospitalization was voluntary but when I felt better and nothing was happening I started pushing to leave. They literally give you a schedule and then do none of it! It was hell. Like watching paint dry not even TV. I will never ask for that kind of help again. They tried to pressure me to sign in for 6 months when I wouldn't they finally let me go but I think only because I have a therapist. It was horrible.. I will never ask for help again. I'm glad I have my therapist but that's enough for me no matter how hard it gets sometimes.
I once read that at least one chain of Hospitals in the U.S. had stockholders and felt extra pressure to be profitable in order to keep their stockholders happy, They had a routine practice of checking for how many days of Psychiatric Hospitalization an incoming patient had Insurance Coverage before the patient was first examined by a Psychiatrist. If the person had good Insurance, they would find ones to ask the new patient questions so that they could report the person as being suicidal.. Then they would make sure to arrange the person stayed in the Hospital until their Insurance ran out, even if it was very disruptive for their life and meant the person would lose their job, etc. At the same time, if someone had no Insurance and not enough money to be hospitalized - they would turn them away, even if the person really needed some type of care. In Canada, Hospitalizations in Public Hospitals are paid by the Government, so the Hospitals can maximize the number of patients they admit and keep.
I just went to my new Dr, she is lovely, she suggested we could talk abt my anxiety. Okay I said . Tapering off Benzo's after 10+ years plus on a small dose of anti depressant. I got the usual ...more anti depressants may help me, to not feel depressed, to have less anxiety, to help me get off the Benzo's easier. I am 58, I have been thru two decades of Dr's prescribing one AD after another. They just make u feel like a zombie. Once again it is being suggested to me to take more or a different psych med to make me feel better. I think I have tried ten after first going to my Dr with symptoms 20 years ago. Been on Zoloft 20 + years. Do not even know if it does anything. Its hard to say NO THANKS to Dr's when u r so low. U want what they suggest to be helpful to you. But i know that meds will not be the magic bullet I wish they could be.
The higher numbers in Canada are at least partially because the Government pays much more to provide Free Hospitalization, Free non-private Psychiatrists & other Medical Staff, and pays for Prescription Drugs, at least in some Provinces. In the U.S. you normally need good insurance to cover hospital, medication, and related fees. People in long-term Psychiatric treatment often are unable to work - often because of a side-effect from Psychiatric medications., so, in the U.S. people's Insurance runs out and the Psychiatric Hospitals do not want to keep them anymore because they are unable to pay the fees. Also, in the U.S. there is more publicity for and availability of Alternative, more Holistic Treatments. Also, Insurance companies in the U.S. may find Alternative Treatments end up costing them much less than Hospitalizations and medications in the long term. In Canada, there is less reliance on Private Insurance, there are fewer different, more Holistic Alternative Options readily available, and there is much less publicity and awareness that Holistic Alternatives Options do exist.
I’m guessing that treatment, especially “addiction treatment,” is by far the most profitable type of “healthcare” for an investor, doctor, etc. I’m guessing there are far less expenses, since real medical supplies, devices, machines, etc aren’t needed; the patients are conveniently at a disadvantage if the try to sue (because they’ve potentially been deemed incompetent/unable to make decisions), and many other reasons. Filling out a few questionnaires is a lot less involved than performing a heart surgery, repairing a tendon, and other actual medical work.
If your channel is looking for a psychiatric survivor to interview, i view psychiatry as pseudoscience, and have roughly 2 years off the psychoactive drugs. These drugs were prescribed long term. I also experienced forensic psychiatry under a non criminal civil commitment. I would really like to get my experience out there, and wouldn't mind being contacted.
I just sent you an email. It is a tad lengthy , but i feel it's all information relevant to my story. Plus with how long i was on the drugs, along with my state hospital experience, there is quite a bit to even scratch the surface.
Indeed your services are needed. I/we bought your book. Since 2022 we have been reaching out to you here in Ohio and you never returned my/our call! Great promotions for an organization that is proving to be a very big joke😢 👎!!!
If you like what we do and want more of it, consider buying us a coffee! buymeacoffee.com/MNFilm
My family is abusive and I had to take permanent boundaries from my family because they didn't believe my health issues and tried to take my rights away.
As awful as this is, its extremely validating to hear it voiced by people like Rob, who is an authority on the reality of what's happening to people in this system. Thank you for that.
As szasz said no behavior is or can be a disease
Where does that leave the term - disorder, do you think?
Disorder. Disease. And illness are more teems medical doctors should use. Someone who is sad isn't ill in literal sense
My hospitalization was voluntary but when I felt better and nothing was happening I started pushing to leave. They literally give you a schedule and then do none of it! It was hell. Like watching paint dry not even TV. I will never ask for that kind of help again. They tried to pressure me to sign in for 6 months when I wouldn't they finally let me go but I think only because I have a therapist. It was horrible.. I will never ask for help again. I'm glad I have my therapist but that's enough for me no matter how hard it gets sometimes.
I’m really enjoyed this interview ❤
Thank you for letting us know! Rob is great!
I once read that at least one chain of Hospitals in the U.S. had stockholders and felt extra pressure to be profitable in order to keep their stockholders happy, They had a routine practice of checking for how many days of Psychiatric Hospitalization an incoming patient had Insurance Coverage before the patient was first examined by a Psychiatrist. If the person had good Insurance, they would find ones to ask the new patient questions so that they could report the person as being suicidal.. Then they would make sure to arrange the person stayed in the Hospital until their Insurance ran out, even if it was very disruptive for their life and meant the person would lose their job, etc. At the same time, if someone had no Insurance and not enough money to be hospitalized - they would turn them away, even if the person really needed some type of care. In Canada, Hospitalizations in Public Hospitals are paid by the Government, so the Hospitals can maximize the number of patients they admit and keep.
I just went to my new Dr, she is lovely, she suggested we could talk abt my anxiety. Okay I said . Tapering off Benzo's after 10+ years plus on a small dose of anti depressant. I got the usual ...more anti depressants may help me, to not feel depressed, to have less anxiety, to help me get off the Benzo's easier. I am 58, I have been thru two decades of Dr's prescribing one AD after another. They just make u feel like a zombie. Once again it is being suggested to me to take more or a different psych med to make me feel better. I think I have tried ten after first going to my Dr with symptoms 20 years ago. Been on Zoloft 20 + years. Do not even know if it does anything. Its hard to say NO THANKS to Dr's when u r so low. U want what they suggest to be helpful to you. But i know that meds will not be the magic bullet I wish they could be.
I'm sorry. I'm in a very similar situation...I understand how frustrating it is. I finally gave up on seeing doctors. It was too upsetting.
The higher numbers in Canada are at least partially because the Government pays much more to provide Free Hospitalization, Free non-private Psychiatrists & other Medical Staff, and pays for Prescription Drugs, at least in some Provinces. In the U.S. you normally need good insurance to cover hospital, medication, and related fees. People in long-term Psychiatric treatment often are unable to work - often because of a side-effect from Psychiatric medications., so, in the U.S. people's Insurance runs out and the Psychiatric Hospitals do not want to keep them anymore because they are unable to pay the fees. Also, in the U.S. there is more publicity for and availability of Alternative, more Holistic Treatments. Also, Insurance companies in the U.S. may find Alternative Treatments end up costing them much less than Hospitalizations and medications in the long term. In Canada, there is less reliance on Private Insurance, there are fewer different, more Holistic Alternative Options readily available, and there is much less publicity and awareness that Holistic Alternatives Options do exist.
I doubt I will see it come to fruition, but I will rest when I see the day psychiatry and psychology is held responsible for crimes against humanity.
I’m guessing that treatment, especially “addiction treatment,” is by far the most profitable type of “healthcare” for an investor, doctor, etc. I’m guessing there are far less expenses, since real medical supplies, devices, machines, etc aren’t needed; the patients are conveniently at a disadvantage if the try to sue (because they’ve potentially been deemed incompetent/unable to make decisions), and many other reasons. Filling out a few questionnaires is a lot less involved than performing a heart surgery, repairing a tendon, and other actual medical work.
Exercise your right to remain silent by stating, clearly, that you have that right.
How many of the clubhouse staff are on psychiatric meds, Icarus?
If your channel is looking for a psychiatric survivor to interview, i view psychiatry as pseudoscience, and have roughly 2 years off the psychoactive drugs.
These drugs were prescribed long term. I also experienced forensic psychiatry under a non criminal civil commitment. I would really like to get my experience out there, and wouldn't mind being contacted.
Email us with a short summary of your story! medicatingnormal@gmail.com
I just sent you an email. It is a tad lengthy , but i feel it's all information relevant to my story.
Plus with how long i was on the drugs, along with my state hospital experience, there is quite a bit to even scratch the surface.
They would put you there even if you did not agree when you mentioned you were suicidal probably...:(
Indeed your services are needed. I/we bought your book. Since 2022 we have been reaching out to you here in Ohio and you never returned my/our call! Great promotions for an organization that is proving to be a very big joke😢 👎!!!
This sounds f.cking midevil. Scary.
Do you need examples of 'real schizophrenia'?