FIRETECH NICET Water based systems layout Study Guide and Test Prep
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2021
- UPDATE 7-22-2022 Passed my Level 3 Advanced Hydraulics exam! • NICET TEST PREP - I pa...
It’s been a long time coming but I finally started towards my NICET level 3 certification. Having recently passed Level III General Plans, I am much more confident in taking on Advanced Hydraulics.
The key to passing it is FIRETECH! I’m the first in my company to take the CBT format test and the first to take ANY NICET test in probably the last 8 years.
Give yourself enough time to make it through the material. I would not advise waiting until 2 weeks before the test like I did. Answer every question honestly. And if you know the answer by heart, navigate thru the appropriate code to get familiar with WHERE the answer is located. The morning of my test I went thru fire tech’s simulated exams one last time so everything would be fresh.
GOOD LUCK!
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*UPDATE 7-22-2022* Passed my Level 3 Advanced Hydraulics exam! Hope to have a new video posted soon.
Hi.. good day
Can I know the Pearson VUE will allow me to bring the hard copy of unofficial codes pdf file like NFPA 13, NFPA 14 etc., if i print out and bind it locally?
My copies of code have always been in 3 ring binders. My office still has a complete set of original NFPA codes we make copies of specifically to take with us to the NICET exam. Another designer recently came to me to make use of them for his own test because all of the digital access versions are watermarked.
Located in Las Vegas, the company I work for has close to 300 employees (the largest non union in Nevada). Been a designer for 9 years or so now, just got into fire suppression systems 2 years ago now. Taking my NICET 1 for Water based Systems this week after working on mostly T.I. work. Wish me luck!
Hope u got that cuz 💪🏽🙏
THANK YOU for the support and congrats on your success!
Thank you. I saw my video shared in the Firetech newsletter email yesterday. That was pretty cool.
I appreciate this very much brother
Thank you for this video it’s amazing .. 🎉. What are the materials I need to get to start with to prepare for the level one test
Thanks for the prep advice! We are a strictly design firm. We have 3 full time and 2 part time designers/engineers. One nicet level 4 and myself and another are only level one but both are studying for level 2.
We’ve talked a lot about going design only. Too many field issues and they keep getting worse.
Thanks for the tips! Been in the fire sprinkler industry my entire life. Designing for 25 years. Management of 4 crews (8-10 guys) and do design. Sub design out sometimes to keep up now days since I am the only designer now. Been designing on SprinkCAD 3D for a dozen years. Currently switching to their SprinkCAD Classic (2D). Little learning curve. Had a NICET on staff so never really needed it but she has taken a new position as plans examiner with the local AHJ. Now I really need to get the NICET certs going. Passed the level 1 test 15 years ago first try but let it expire and never followed up. Jumping head first into the Level 1 test next week. Hoping to pass it without much prep. Level II, I got Firetechs course along with the tabbed books. Fingers crossed! Thanks again.
Good luck for sure. Our newest hire passed his level 1 a few months ago. The worst part about the test is how much of it isn’t “job related”. He used Firetechs updated level 1 course and it was a big part of his success.
How'd your level 2 test go Ryan. Sounds like you work for Cutler fire
First things first. Glad to see a fellow believer on youtube. Second, man am I struggling with level 3.
I get the info, but as soon as I get to the optimizing portion, my brain just blanks. I understand a good portion could be the fact that I'm just jumping straight from RME-I to level 3 layout. I've looked for resources outside of Firetech to no avail. I did see they have the instructor led 5 hour blocks I could get, but that is limited to level 2 and its another $500. I may be forced to do that just to be able to discuss this with someone. Your video is helpful, and does make me think I'm probably just psyching myself out.
I’m not sure what you’re referring to as the optimizing portion. I have another video I would like to put together on “Phantom Flow” - NFPA 13 27.2.4.2.5 … It was added in 2013 but apparently most designers and plan reviewers miss the requirements for that one.
I'm looking on getting nicet 1 don't have idea how this helps thanks
Passed my layout lvl 1 in June on first time...im coming from fire alarm side, which i am lvl 2 cert.; im crossed trained in sprinkler...passed my water base ITM lvl 2 in May...preparing for layout 2; I'm a avid user of firetech, great prep course...great people...Now if Nicet was as efficient to process and get our certification to use in a timely manner would be great...they are WAY TOO SLOW😮
Thanks for the prep advice, def gonna use firetech study guide, i work for similar size fp company, we also utilize hydracad, noticing alot more jobs requiring 3D BIM
There seems to be an exception for fire protection. I’m currently working on a 6 story secure office addition at Wright Patterson AFB. Coordination has been going on since March. We are the only contractor that doesn’t use Revit or Navis. It’s even written in the spec that we are to provide DWG drawings. For us as a company it just isn’t necessary or worth the cost to use 3D.
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Been designing sprinkler systems for 2-3 years, 22years young and I am looking to study for nicet 🙌🏽
Good luck. Don’t wait for senior designers to push you forward. NICET is everything for us unless you have what it take to be a PE. Definitely not me. lol
Will you make a video after you take the hydraulic portion?
I’m a level 2.5 (passed general plans recently)
Work for a company similar in size to you around 50 between field and office
We do a ton of tenant work and government type projects
I plan to… don’t know when I’ll carve out the time to take it though.
How do we get the state certification after passing the test ?🎉
Appreciate you taking the time to make this video. I was literally going to purchase the NTC 'Blackbook' today then came across your video. Just curious, do you feel it is important to ready NFPA 13 cover-to-cover or would the online training modules offered by FireTech suffice?
Are you looking at NICET level 1?
@@PromisKeeper I am
From a professional perspective, you need to know the content of the book to do the job correctly. To confidently pass the test, you need to take the study course. It will help you get familiarized with where to find the answers to the questions we may not run into everyday at work. The designer under me was surprised at how much of the test was not what he expected but Firetech gave him a leg up.
@@PromisKeeper just my 2 cents from a person that passed my level I the first time around, the study guide from firetech and learning how to read the books INDEX will help out a TON! And just don’t get caught up on questions. If you spend more than 3 mins just flag and come back to it. Obviously answer it though lol
@@ryangallardo5481 sorry tagged the creator and not you lol
Does anyone have any books they can record for level 1 test
NICET lvl 1 in a couple days and I still feel so under prepared after seeing this video
If you can, devote the next couple of days to Firetechs prep material. Peace of mind going in to the test will be worth the stress of the cram session.
That is a great Video, I just passed my NICET 3 IN Inspection and testing of water based system, now I want to work on system layout, no guidance here. How can I contact you.
To schedule the test you’ll need someone to verify your work experience as a designer. Besides using the right study material it should be pretty much the same process as scheduling and taking your Inspection & Testing quiz.
If I could ask, who did you use as a recommendation? We sub out designs typically and the engineers or designers I work with will not sign off on competition lol. Do you know if any other titles can sign off? There are no designers other than my nicet 2 experience at my work.
Thank you!
My office manager is a level 4. One of our long time salesmen also wrote a reference. Nicet lists who it will accept for this. A few years ago I was in a similar situation being a level 2 and the only designer still with the company. It’s pretty messed up to not help another designer move up in this. There is plenty of work to go around for sure.
@@PromisKeeper yeah it is what it is. Thank you for the response!
Great video! Very informative. I see that you need 5 yrs experience to take the lvl3. Is there anyway around that? I dont have any companies around here to gain experience from.
In order to begin testing even at level 1, someone already NICET certified has to sign off as proof you are actively working in the industry. Passing a higher level test doesn’t count as anything unless your references have signed off and NICET has verified them.
@@PromisKeeper man, thats unfortunate but understandable. I appreciate the quick response!
The only reason I got in the business was thru people I knew who thought I’d be good at it. I think the idea is, if you were gonna pursue a career in this industry you would have went to school to become a professional engineer. If you are an FPE you don’t need NICET. If you’re like me and it was just a good job opportunity, the PEs that form NICET want you to prove your merit… and maybe stroke their ego’s. lol
Thank you for the video! I've worked in the field as a Sprinkler Fitter for 20 years and I'm just now transitioning towards the design end. Studying for my NICET lvl I water based systems layout. I purchased the practice exam through NICET hoping it's a worthy investment? Any experience with it?
No I never took the practice tests. I’m sure it will help you decide if you should use something like Firetech to prepare further. The NTC book wasn’t much of a study help but the practice tests let me know real fast I was not as familiar with the code as I thought I was. My company covered the cost of the material so I opted for the sure thing with Firetech and turned in the receipt for the course after I passed. If you didn’t see the update I passed my level 3 hydraulics just last week!
Best of luck to you. I’m assuming your not a Union fitter? Where I’m from our union guys get paid $60 to $80 an hour. That’s journeymen and foremen. Designers and project managers make $40 max $50.
HI do u know the way to start on level 3 test in florida ? I hear about seminary and then i can take the test w/ some guys
There are Pearson Vue testing centers spread across Florida. Log in to NICET and schedule through them. If you’re talking about just a state license in Florida, I’m in Ohio so that is way out of my area.
Is there a way to talk with you about this test? Or message you privately? Thank you Rob
You can ask here or leave a question on the blog.
I’m about to start the course but noticed there is two options.. What’s the diffference between water based systems layout certification and the inspection of water based systems certification
Water based systems layout is for designers. The inspection cert is only for inspections.
hi I'm looking forward to do this course but bit confused
What is the between water based system layout and Inspection and Testing of Water-Based Systems
If you are a designer, you need to take the test for "water based systems layout"
Nice video !
Open shop sprinkler company
9 designers 4 estimators 1 pe 7 pms 150 guys in the field about 35 in office including estimators and designers
Going lvl 2 soon
Hi..for the level 1- water base testing . How do I get the reference for the exam. Thanks..
Create a profile on Nicet.org and everything is done electronically. It will send an email link to whom ever you list as your immediate supervisor.
Hlo bruh, I m going to take the level I so pls advice to which book should I refer for water based sprinkler layout?
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So is the nicet certification Required to obtain rme-G or is it just passing the nicet test. I have just received my rme-I with only passing the test and have not been certified through nicet. Should i go for the level 3 water-based systems exam without completing level 1 and 2 which are not listed as requirements. I will be taking the fire tech online course for level 3 before taking the test, just curious?
I’m not familiar with the specifics of RME. Not something we have here in Ohio as far as I know. Having the NICET 3 certification will allow me to sign permit drawings in most states without taking a state specific test. Just have to apply, pay the fee and show proof of the level 3 certificate. Someone before has asked a similar question, you can’t apply to take a nicet unless you meet their minimum requirements. Actively employed full time as a designer. Someone else certified would have to verify you have worked as a designer for the required number of years. I don’t want to pretend to know all the ins and outs, but NICET isn’t something anyone can just go online and set up a test.
The other part of your question… I started this under the work element format. I had to take level 1, then 2 and now 3 years later… The website makes it seem like that’s not necessary anymore 🤷🏼♂️. Like you could become a level 3 as long as you can be verified and meet the 5 years required working in design.
@@PromisKeeper I do have about 5.5 years in the fire sprinkler trade and here in Texas an RME-G licence given through the Texas department of insurance
An individual with an RME-G license is permitted to plan, install, maintain, service, and certify all
types and parts of a fire sprinkler system. So with that being said i guess in Texas The RME overrides the nicet certification part?
So here in Texas it is only required to pass the nicet test and fire sprinkler rules and regulation test as a requirement for the RME. Thanks for the insight.
Sounds like you may be more qualified than I am. lol
Always great to encounter another Christian in the industry. I have my Level III. I wish there was suitable materials for Level IV out there.
Thank you sir. Good luck pursuing level 4. I’m not certain of the necessity of it anymore. It carry’s the distinction and certainly a pay increase, but the last several years hasn’t carried any more weight than a level 3. We do a lot of government work and everything… EVERYTHING requires a PE stamp before the Corps will accept it from us. Doesn’t matter if it’s a new 5 story high security building, or a glorified arm over job.
@@PromisKeeper Yes sir, I agree. I am in Georgia, and Level III gets you everything here that IV does as far as Licensing. I have to renew my III soon, so I figured I would try to test at Level IV because even if I don't complete the rest of the Level IV certification paperwork right away, the test alone gives me what I need to renew Level III.
Well, I completed the Level IV test and I was successful
Congratulations. No small task I’m sure.
@@PromisKeeper Thanks. I am glad to have it behind me.
I’ve passed all my fire related test commercial fitter/ journey Fire sprinkler fitter class 4 years in class and work experience with a B+ residential Fitter class level 5
Plus 5+ years of experience. Do I stand a chance for level 1 ?
I have no experience with other testing vs NICET. The test unfortunately really is not something you can count on passing based on job experience. Rather than chance wasting the money taking the test for the first time and failing, I’d put that test money toward a study guide. The lessons in the first level study material will prepare you for the material in level 2, which then help prepare you for some of the material in level 3. I spoke with a designer just this week who tried to take his level 1 without test prep and he came close but failed twice. There is also a lot of value in the knowledge you gain from the study content that goes beyond just passing the test.
@@PromisKeeper thank you for answering my questions. I inspect test and maintain fire sprinklers in accordance with nfpa25 ITM and Nfpa20 fire pumps. I install sprinklers in accordance with nfpa13,13D And 13R. All these books discuss the application inspection and design of wet sprinkles in accordance to and from. A study guide sounds extremely doable. Is what I should have said I’m a skilled and trained journeyman level however fire sprinkler is in high demand. That I need to advance my learning to become nicet certified level 1,2&3 for wet systems as well as special hazards. Not necessarily just installation. But yes I do need that type of direction from you here now. Invaluable information at my level thank you. Today for instance I sway braced a fire pump room hung a 700lbs fire pump muffle with a chain hoist, bolted it together with flanged fitting to a CAT 2000 G PM diesel driven Split case double to a double interlock nitrogen system for a freezer. With three 5 to one differential type valve.
Hey the different between nicet cert and the 81 hour fire alarm cert ?
I know nothing about fire alarm specifically… had to Google your question. Every state can be different but if you pass a nicet exam it’s a Nationally recognized certification that many states will accept as proof your qualified to work in that field. In Ohio, you can take a state fire sprinkler exam and it’s only good in Ohio. But if I pass the level 3 fire sprinkler nicet exam I do not have to take the state of Ohio exam. I can submit proof of passing NICET to get my state certification.
@@PromisKeeper thanks for the response
I'm planning on taking Level 1 test but it says in the Condition of Applications that "Individuals who are not resident in, or working in, the United States or its territories may not be eligible for certification. These individuals must contact NICET before applying and may be required to follow additional procedures, with additional fees, to demonstrate that they meet the criteria." Currently working outside the US right now. Do you have any idea about the additional procedures, with additional fees?
I don’t have any info on that.
@@PromisKeeper Thank you for the prep advice! Planning on taking the Firetech course as soon as I get a reply from NICET about the COA issue.
My newest designer just passed his level 1 after taking the new course format. He said it helped a lot. Much of the test is things that don’t necessarily apply to the job.
@@PromisKeeper hey man just passed my WBSL-1 Exam. Just want to thank you again for the prep advice and recommending Firetech's course. It sure helped a lot on psyching out.
Awesome. Good luck moving forward!
Were do I get started In leve 1 ???
www.nicet.org/certification-programs/electrical-and-mechanical-systems/water-based-systems-layout/
Advanced hydraulics update coming soon…
I think I recognize your monitor page. Api?
No. My monitor was on the Nicet webpage and Firetechs online lesson dashboard. I have an old friend that works for Viking which I believe is owned by API. My company name is on my shirt and a few binders on the shelf. lol
@@PromisKeeper Right on. I couldn't see the logos when viewing on my phone. I watched the video on the way to my general plans.
You took the test? How did it go?
@@PromisKeeper Yeah I passed the general even though I failed miserably on the practice test. I am pretty sure I am going to do the firetech course on the hydraulics though..
Was the practice test different from the actual test or did it help you to know what kind of questions to expect?
Designer bruh, Not Engineer.
Wouldn't be RUclips without someone giving me a hard time. lol We joke about that all the time. Yeah, we are certified design techs. We work in the "engineering" dept. One thing we've learned... ENGINEERS keep us in business because too few seem to know what they are doing. You ever worked on a job engineered by HEAPY? lol
@@PromisKeeper Bruh, I feel ya. I'm old Grinnell guy in SC. They make us take our shop drawings, have them stamped by Level III, Then sent off to P.E for another review and Spec sheet. Then off to State FM for approval. Good info on the Nicett review