I was gonna say, why they piping up now? There's been fixture congestion at Christmas and in April for quite a few clubs and we didn't hear a peep from them.
Jim saying they have to travel 20 odd thousand miles 😂 as if they’re walking it or pedalling bike to get there. They’re basically sat in a comfortable seat no doubt and sleeping half of it and then having a few days in the sun and a non competitive friendly.
@@declanshanahan3888100% you’re correct but it’s even the ones where’s he’s playing advocate to The wrong side but backing the point so hardly you wonder if he’s doing a job ? Or genuinely believes it. In my opinion that makes it hard to see his true stance. Just a bit cringe sometimes
It's none of the fa business if an owner wants to invest as much as they see fit. Lol but now talksport moan about fa stopping clubs for earning money 😅😅 If the Newcastle owner was allowed to invest what he wants the game probably doesn't take place
Must be a hard life being a professional footballer. Paid more money in a week than most people earn in a year and then they get a free holiday in Australia! Give it a rest!
It must be such a bind to fly over to Australia in first class then kicking a football around in the sun. One agenda and that is to close all the loopholes of teams making additional money to compete.
I think it’s stupid really. FA banning it is only because they won’t get a cut. Not about player welfare . They aren’t bothered about players playing 4 games in 10 days in December or whatever it was
Everytime Newcastle name is mentioned the is a complaint lol if it was man u v man City nothing would be said its crazy the fa would probably televise it 😅😅😅
We're looking forward to seeing the two games. It's two, not one. Whilst we believe it shouldn't be happening. With out this, we're going on a holiday of a lifetime.
3 days after premier league season ends yes but 3 days before fa cup final, a week before europa conference league final and 10 days before champs league final. Clubs are encouraged to increase their income because of FFP and this game squeezed in because both clubs seasons end earlier than they could have due to going out of cup competitions is a way of doing so.
Jim asks ‘is there a need?’ ‘whats the logic?’ Wait till you see all the Spurs and Newcastle supporters who turn up in Melbourne. I’ll be there with my two sons, flying from Sydney $$$, staying the night$$$, having paid a tidy sum for tickets $$$. The players will get paid, the travel and hospitality will get paid and we get a rare opportunity to see our teams play live.
Both clubs have fans in Australia, so why shouldn't they be able to play a friendly in front of them? Clubs do it pre season over in America, Asia etc every year without it being an issue. As for Gareth Southgate being concerned about it ahead of the Euros, I'm more annoyed that the premier league is interrupted by "international duty" for 2 weeks either 2 or 3 games into the new premier league season as player's always come back injured.
Simple. These and the other EPL clubs were complaining about their overloaded schedules and that players were being worn out. So a long-haul flight to the other side of the world for a friendly game really fits that argument. 🤦♂
Get off it Jim. They're getting a holiday to play a friendly game in Australia, and they will earn a fortune for doing so, I don't think they'll mind much. Some of us with physical jobs end every week shattered and broken and choose to play football whenever we can fit it in. Players in some pro leagues have to work other jobs. This will allow fans in Australia to see their team on person more easily, it is not a big issue..... Plus it allows Tottenham to play a big team which will be nice for them 😬
They want to generate money but the FA try to stop them when they try to, and no disrespect to Garth southgate but he doesn’t pay their wages and doesn’t have their contracts, so he’s irrelevant to this conversation, if the fair play rules won’t let them spend then this is the only response, funny they didn’t complain last season when a few clubs where in the US playing , or is it just the two teams playing this time ,
Plus none of the English players in those two squads who would get selected are going to be starting for England anyway. We know who Southgate is going to pick
People saying the long flights is the issue yet if season was over all the players would he flying off on holiday anyway, not sitting at home waiting for euros - Still games to he played after this match plus Ange has said if was in Europe and gone further in cups likely wouldn’t be playing this match and Howe has said similar
I love simon when hes on one like this. Imagine it went to cpurt all newcastle need to do is show when did the FA pipe up about the PL moving our games for tv left right and centre.
Simon, firstly I wish you good health. Then, I love watching Talksport because of you. Top man and I respect your opinion. Well said about the FA. Full of CHIT!!
I think the problem here is that the big Prem clubs have been moaning about too many fixtures. This indirectly led to the phasing out of FA Cup replays. Replays are a financial godsend to teams further down the pyramid. So 2 big teams travelling on a 20,000 mile round trip for a money spinning friendly 3 days after the end of the season is bound to piss off people. Especially fans of smaller clubs who watch big clubs generate even more money while they have the chance of a financial lifeline taken away from them.
Not necessarily fans of smaller clubs. Anyone other than fans of those clubs involved, as the comments here show. It's so hypocritical of EPL clubs. Our players play too many games so let's drop games that rarely happen to us so we can go around the world for friendlies.
Trippier , Gordon and Madison are barely even 3rd best in their positions in the england squad none of them going to matter so FA need to let them get on with it just because they wont see a penny of the money
How does Jim White spout so much drivel, so consistently? Insufferable. And don't pretend he's just espousing a counter-arguement - the man's just not that bright
I have been a supporter of Newcastle United for 30+ years and I have never before had the opportunity to watch my team play in person. I have spent those 30+ years watching or listening to my team's matches on the television or radio, every game, often staying awake until 5am. This trip to Australia is finally my opportunity to see my team, in person. The FA wants their game to be followed around the world, selling broadcast rights around the world, but doesn't want to do anything to support that global interest. The FA can get stuffed!
They can do it, but it's also bu**sh'*t that Premier League clubs were the drivers about losing the FA cup replays to reduce the number of games, but then they go flying all round the World for a few months. Principle is the FA can't get involved, principle should also be screw the Prem clubs over their FA cup stance.
Are they going to ban players from going on holiday to the USA or Far East before the Euros too, where they might have a game of football on the beach, or go out drinking a few times before joining up with the England squad. It's probably just because it's Newcastle again - so many rules brought in the past 18 months or so just to try and prevent them from progressing
You 3 are conveniently forgetting to mention FFP and that the only reason they’re going to Australia then is due to the situation FFP puts these clubs in
And is a total backtrack of the EPL clubs argument about players being overloaded. It's why there was a big debate last week about FA Cup replays. This idea blows that argument out of the water.
If the premier league did'nt dance to the big sixes tune with regards to FFP they would'nt need to claw every penny to at least try to compete with the 115 cheats charged Man Citys of this world. By the way when the season is over and Man City have collected their trophies can we get them in front of an enquiry? This request came from Everton, Forest, leicester and no doubt many others.
They ask where the logic is in playing a friendly 3 days after the season finishes and 2 weeks before the euro. We'll by that same ticket Southgate where's the logic in you playing players involved in a stressful title race 1 month before the end of the season. Resulting in numerous injuries. Can't have it both ways
Something needs to be done, both to give the players a proper rest after the season but also stop ripping fans off. Most likely both teams turn up, fans charged ridiculous prices and it's the youth team playing.
For once jordon talking sense. How else are clubs supposed to generate money and get people from around the world to support them. Australia should support nufc as it was the geordie that built it 😂😂😂😂
Over 3 weeks between the Aussie game and Englands first game at the euros. I’m sure the players will recover from this mini holiday, I mean, friendly football game.
This is not that different to the warm weather training in the Middle east premier league clubs take their off to when they don't have a game for a couple of weeks
The FA and Premier League decide to scrap FA Cup replays because the top flight calendar is too busy which will damage lower league teams, but then some of the top clubs then fly to the other side of the world 3 days after the season has finished for a friendly. This is an absolute joke of a decision.
to get the huge salaries players get they have to enable the club to draw extra revenue, they fly first class stay in top hotels eating the finest foods, i dont think they have it too bad
Tottenham have a stadium to pay off and a need to compete with the billionaire owners who can spend what they want when they want with seemingly no repercussions and we have the first ever Australian head coach the PL has ever seen, we can do what they want, just leave Maddison behind so he can focus on the Euros
The FA won’t get a cut, that’s what grinds their gears ⚙️.
Took the words right out of my mouth 👍
They didnt complain when we played 7 games in 20 days during december though......
I was gonna say, why they piping up now? There's been fixture congestion at Christmas and in April for quite a few clubs and we didn't hear a peep from them.
@@WillSavage Because the Cartel were quite happy that the likes of Brighton, Villa and the real United were the ones being hit.
@@johngreen8996 the top teams were also congested, your weird conspiracy theory is yawn-inducing.
As a Toon fan living in Melbourne a game like this is great news 😅
Newcastle and Tottenham players haven't had any European or cup games post January. No big deal on fatigue
100%
And they mention Maddison, Trippier & Gordon. None of those 3 are starting the first Euros game for England. 🤷♂️
If newcastle had gone further in champions league, they'd have played more games than they have anyway. Its bullshit to handcuff certain clubs
The PL impose FFP revenue limits now they restrict the ability of the clubs to raise money and their international profile. Hypocrits.
It's always a problem when Newcastle try to do anything. Sponsorship deals, saudi player trading, now friendlies, what next lol. Rattled
Remember everyone saying we were going to be leaning all these players from Saudi? Absolute guff
Loaning*
We'll be banned from home games soon because it's too unfair an advantage...
Spurs total games this season is 41
Less games we’ve had in years
They shud have miles left on the clock
Jim saying they have to travel 20 odd thousand miles 😂 as if they’re walking it or pedalling bike to get there. They’re basically sat in a comfortable seat no doubt and sleeping half of it and then having a few days in the sun and a non competitive friendly.
Only talking about it because it’s Newcastle or spurs
only talking about it because the FA are whinging, nothing to do with who it is
OMG Jim White is so insufferable.
He is a w⚓
I rate Simon highly but cant watch this show due to Jim. Can’t stand him. Always the contrary position
@@theblackhand1 That's the point of the host to play devils advocate - are you this thick in real life. It's not an echo chamber ffs.
@@declanshanahan3888100% you’re correct but it’s even the ones where’s he’s playing advocate to
The wrong side but backing the point so hardly you wonder if he’s doing a job ? Or genuinely believes it. In my opinion that makes it hard to see his true stance. Just a bit cringe sometimes
It's none of the fa business if an owner wants to invest as much as they see fit. Lol but now talksport moan about fa stopping clubs for earning money 😅😅
If the Newcastle owner was allowed to invest what he wants the game probably doesn't take place
Must be a hard life being a professional footballer. Paid more money in a week than most people earn in a year and then they get a free holiday in Australia! Give it a rest!
Totally agree this is ridiculous
I don't see where the players are complaining.
It must be such a bind to fly over to Australia in first class then kicking a football around in the sun. One agenda and that is to close all the loopholes of teams making additional money to compete.
tbf it is in Melbourne, they'll probably play 15 minutes in the sun and the rest in torrential rain, and maybe a bit of sun at the end
Many Brits if they they had the money to do so would love to spend a few days in Australia
Jim White trying to stirr the pot over and over again.
His fake outrage. He’s always DISGUSTED and APALLED
It’s his job
Prem clubs have done this for years but as soon as Newcastle do it....LETS CHANGE THE RULES
I think it’s stupid really. FA banning it is only because they won’t get a cut. Not about player welfare . They aren’t bothered about players playing 4 games in 10 days in December or whatever it was
Everytime Newcastle name is mentioned the is a complaint lol if it was man u v man City nothing would be said its crazy the fa would probably televise it 😅😅😅
We're looking forward to seeing the two games. It's two, not one. Whilst we believe it shouldn't be happening. With out this, we're going on a holiday of a lifetime.
FA should focus on city cases and PGMOL corruption.
That has nothing to do with the FA.
They won't though, as too much €€€ is pumped there way
But yet they want opening games of the season played in the USA
Well looks like England are screwed for the Euros without Maddison and Gordon 😂 piss off Southgate
Nothing will change…..if you think a England picks mangers because of talent,this world of capitalism means nothing 😳
But the FA are ok with pointless friendlies during the season
I agree with Simon Jordan
3 days after premier league season ends yes but 3 days before fa cup final, a week before europa conference league final and 10 days before champs league final. Clubs are encouraged to increase their income because of FFP and this game squeezed in because both clubs seasons end earlier than they could have due to going out of cup competitions is a way of doing so.
Normal people are at work for 48 weeks a year working normally 40 hours and more aweek but dont whinge about it
If southgate thinks one game in australia makes a difference, then he needs to leave after euros and never take management ever
r they doing anything to stop newcastle being able to spend??
Get rid of FFP and PSR then they will not need to play games on the other side of the planet
Even if it's for money I rather get done with it at the end of the season rather than the next
It’s got nothing to do with the fa 🤔
fa doing what they can to stop clubs growing commercial revenue.
Jim asks ‘is there a need?’ ‘whats the logic?’ Wait till you see all the Spurs and Newcastle supporters who turn up in Melbourne. I’ll be there with my two sons, flying from Sydney $$$, staying the night$$$, having paid a tidy sum for tickets $$$. The players will get paid, the travel and hospitality will get paid and we get a rare opportunity to see our teams play live.
Football is not about supporters... apparently.
Both clubs have fans in Australia, so why shouldn't they be able to play a friendly in front of them?
Clubs do it pre season over in America, Asia etc every year without it being an issue.
As for Gareth Southgate being concerned about it ahead of the Euros, I'm more annoyed that the premier league is interrupted by "international duty" for 2 weeks either 2 or 3 games into the new premier league season as player's always come back injured.
Simple. These and the other EPL clubs were complaining about their overloaded schedules and that players were being worn out. So a long-haul flight to the other side of the world for a friendly game really fits that argument. 🤦♂
Get off it Jim. They're getting a holiday to play a friendly game in Australia, and they will earn a fortune for doing so, I don't think they'll mind much. Some of us with physical jobs end every week shattered and broken and choose to play football whenever we can fit it in. Players in some pro leagues have to work other jobs. This will allow fans in Australia to see their team on person more easily, it is not a big issue.....
Plus it allows Tottenham to play a big team which will be nice for them 😬
How about sorting FFP & man city rarher than picking at holiday, PR friendlies!
Simon said it, 'gutless & spineless'
They want to generate money but the FA try to stop them when they try to, and no disrespect to Garth southgate but he doesn’t pay their wages and doesn’t have their contracts, so he’s irrelevant to this conversation, if the fair play rules won’t let them spend then this is the only response, funny they didn’t complain last season when a few clubs where in the US playing , or is it just the two teams playing this time ,
Plus none of the English players in those two squads who would get selected are going to be starting for England anyway. We know who Southgate is going to pick
Newcastle United is far more important than England let’s have it right
Reduce the pointless England friendly games
People saying the long flights is the issue yet if season was over all the players would he flying off on holiday anyway, not sitting at home waiting for euros - Still games to he played after this match plus Ange has said if was in Europe and gone further in cups likely wouldn’t be playing this match and Howe has said similar
I love simon when hes on one like this. Imagine it went to cpurt all newcastle need to do is show when did the FA pipe up about the PL moving our games for tv left right and centre.
Simon, firstly I wish you good health. Then, I love watching Talksport because of you. Top man and I respect your opinion. Well said about the FA. Full of CHIT!!
Trip to Australia, bit of sun, Consolidate after hard season, add some coin to the transfer budget. Sounds awful.
I think the problem here is that the big Prem clubs have been moaning about too many fixtures. This indirectly led to the phasing out of FA Cup replays. Replays are a financial godsend to teams further down the pyramid. So 2 big teams travelling on a 20,000 mile round trip for a money spinning friendly 3 days after the end of the season is bound to piss off people. Especially fans of smaller clubs who watch big clubs generate even more money while they have the chance of a financial lifeline taken away from them.
Not necessarily fans of smaller clubs. Anyone other than fans of those clubs involved, as the comments here show. It's so hypocritical of EPL clubs. Our players play too many games so let's drop games that rarely happen to us so we can go around the world for friendlies.
Trippier , Gordon and Madison are barely even 3rd best in their positions in the england squad none of them going to matter so FA need to let them get on with it just because they wont see a penny of the money
It's my tradition to have a bacon roll just after kickoff will the FA stop the game for me to observe my tradition?
How does Jim White spout so much drivel, so consistently? Insufferable. And don't pretend he's just espousing a counter-arguement - the man's just not that bright
Here's a thought..... Maybe both teams won't take their English players potentially in the Euros squad?
The same could be asked regarding the early season, end of season England friendliest.
How about we stop the stupid glamourised international friendly (national league) during the season
How are Manure ever going to get back in top 4 if the likes of Newcastle and Spurs are allowed to make a bit extra money???????????
So what. How about the times when the players have to play friendly's which is a meaningless game. Not hearing any noise made over that?
I have been a supporter of Newcastle United for 30+ years and I have never before had the opportunity to watch my team play in person. I have spent those 30+ years watching or listening to my team's matches on the television or radio, every game, often staying awake until 5am. This trip to Australia is finally my opportunity to see my team, in person. The FA wants their game to be followed around the world, selling broadcast rights around the world, but doesn't want to do anything to support that global interest. The FA can get stuffed!
Sir Jordanite = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
FA are hypocrites when it comes to criticise teams for friendlies after season when the fa schedule international friendllies during a football season
The joke is Chelsea and man city in a tournament where they could make 50million talk about getting an ffp advantage 🙄
They can do it, but it's also bu**sh'*t that Premier League clubs were the drivers about losing the FA cup replays to reduce the number of games, but then they go flying all round the World for a few months.
Principle is the FA can't get involved, principle should also be screw the Prem clubs over their FA cup stance.
It’s okay though because those fa cup replay tires these players out ….. laughable . Joke
Are they going to ban players from going on holiday to the USA or Far East before the Euros too, where they might have a game of football on the beach, or go out drinking a few times before joining up with the England squad. It's probably just because it's Newcastle again - so many rules brought in the past 18 months or so just to try and prevent them from progressing
Jim talking nonsense as per.
Where is the logic of a useless international friendly during the premier league season
You 3 are conveniently forgetting to mention FFP and that the only reason they’re going to Australia then is due to the situation FFP puts these clubs in
I'm pretty sure that's the only thing Simon talked about?
Eddie will use anyone that’s not at euros
What's wrong with me; I agree with Simon. It's the off-season. It's an exhibition game. It's none of the FA's business.
Jim is clueless. This is a way for the clubs to generate revenue to balance ffp
And is a total backtrack of the EPL clubs argument about players being overloaded. It's why there was a big debate last week about FA Cup replays. This idea blows that argument out of the water.
It’s bizarre that the business side of football is controlled by an external entity to that business.
Simon = Top Lad + Proper Clobber
The F.A know FA.
All of a sudden Newcastle are making money so they shut it down... what a shocker
If the premier league did'nt dance to the big sixes tune with regards to FFP they would'nt need to claw every penny to at least try to compete with the 115 cheats charged Man Citys of this world.
By the way when the season is over and Man City have collected their trophies can we get them in front of an enquiry? This request came from Everton, Forest, leicester and no doubt many others.
They ask where the logic is in playing a friendly 3 days after the season finishes and 2 weeks before the euro. We'll by that same ticket Southgate where's the logic in you playing players involved in a stressful title race 1 month before the end of the season. Resulting in numerous injuries. Can't have it both ways
Something needs to be done, both to give the players a proper rest after the season but also stop ripping fans off. Most likely both teams turn up, fans charged ridiculous prices and it's the youth team playing.
For once jordon talking sense. How else are clubs supposed to generate money and get people from around the world to support them. Australia should support nufc as it was the geordie that built it 😂😂😂😂
If you are teading these comments Mr White, please do us all a gavour and retire
How's this the FAs business... How?
There is a huge hypocrisy from clubs complaining about the number of fixtures and then arranging post season friendlies.
Over 3 weeks between the Aussie game and Englands first game at the euros. I’m sure the players will recover from this mini holiday, I mean, friendly football game.
This is not that different to the warm weather training in the Middle east premier league clubs take their off to when they don't have a game for a couple of weeks
Are any of the players who play for both teams, likely to start any of the Euro 2024 games for England...
The FA and Premier League decide to scrap FA Cup replays because the top flight calendar is too busy which will damage lower league teams, but then some of the top clubs then fly to the other side of the world 3 days after the season has finished for a friendly. This is an absolute joke of a decision.
Those players are all on an absolute wedge. Not like either club has had to worry about extra games
to get the huge salaries players get they have to enable the club to draw extra revenue, they fly first class stay in top hotels eating the finest foods, i dont think they have it too bad
We need a premier league whistle blower there trying to limit clubs promoting themselves now
if these teams were still in europe they would have played more games anyway
I will translate, the fa don’t make money out of friendly games and can’t sell England shirts so they playing tough
I wonder if anything would have been said if it was just spurs that planned the friendly
Another” CBA day” for Murphy..Rubbin that hooter too.Get him off.
Simon spot on again
Jim is so out of touch it’s ridiculous
Footballers are always moaning they would be fucked if they had a proper job
Is this from like a month ago?
It's so redundant to use the financial 'greed' argument when trying to defend footballer welfare because they are the main beneficiaries FFS
How is this news?
Just don’t pick the players for England. They won’t play anyhow
Good on the clubs for giving the chance for the fans in Australia to see their team live. Jim is a dope.
Until Player Wages are cut or at least capped .This will get much worse .
Unless that happens world wide it will just turn English football into a 3rd rate league...the best players would just go elsewhere to play
International football is a waste of time
I love Simon.
Managers whinge but do this?
Ridiculous that clubs can’t go on a tour after the season but refs can got to the UAE the day before a game
Tottenham have a stadium to pay off and a need to compete with the billionaire owners who can spend what they want when they want with seemingly no repercussions and we have the first ever Australian head coach the PL has ever seen, we can do what they want, just leave Maddison behind so he can focus on the Euros