I think it's interesting you mention "The Menu" as being a film that got snubbed because it, much like "Nope", is also very critical of the film industry. Its ending, in particular, is critical of the pageantry and prestige of award ceremonies and award-bait films.
It sucks that so many of the films in this year's Oscar lineup haven't came out where I am yet, even though we've had adverts up for ages. And even then, most of the ones with multiple nominations across several categories? Didn't last two weeks at my cinema.
Yeah he does a good impersonation, that’s literally the first thing you learn to do in acting, and is only entertaining enough for an SNL skit, not an entire movie lying about a man who abused women. 👎👎 Horrible movie.
The Academy needs to get over its love affair with biopics. They always have an advantage with the Academy even if they're not very good. They taking up spots that much better movies, performances, etc. deserve.
Ngl, Elvis deserves the award for Production Design. They immitated the real Elvis scenes incredibly well. But yeah, that still doesn't make Butler the best Elvis impersonator.
Agreed! It would be one thing if they were taking a critical look at the past, and telling the story from other perspectives. But I have no interest in watching a movie by men about a man who abused women, and it’s made to look romantic.
That's a great observation you made, how the Academy ignored Nope because the movie was hypercritical about Hollywood. Yet I think a bigger (and simpler) reason is that it simply is a horror/sci-fi movie, which the Academy has genre bias towards. They made an exception for Get Out though because it was a mega-successful movie that commented on Black racism. They didn't want to be seen as a bunch of racists for not acknowledging one of the biggest movies of the year that likewise condemned racism towards the Black community.
One thing the Oscars did better than the Globes is nominating Stephanie Hsu. She had the best performance in one of the best films where everyone brought it.
I still can't believe Top Gun Maverick missed Oscars nomination for Best Cinematography. It was so inventive and flawless to watch. Was the frontrunner and won almost all the critics awards. I felt like a fan of the Oscars a slap to the face, no pun intended
It’s the only category I think they should be nominated for (and I really liked the movie, I just think that’s the only way it outshined other movies this year)
Nope wasn't nominated because the studio didn't campaign for it. Universal put all the money in Fabelmans, probably because it is easier to win best picture from a movie like Fabelmans than Nope. At the same time that I agree that a movie shouldn't need a campaign for it to get an award it makes some sense that the members of the academy can't watch every movie, so you need to give them some sort of spotlight.
Everyone in the academy should probably be watching every Jordan Peele film and every Steven Spielberg film. Kinda lazy imo. Jordan Peele and Steven Spielberg are clearly established threats for these awards
@@drainstorM11 Last year academy members were tasked with watching 160 films in this list. It would've taken every member 306 hours and 48 minutes to watch them all.
Fact check: Hollywood is not the only industry that gives itself awards on stage. In fact, a lot of professions are keen on doing that. Hollywood’s awards are just the ones we give the most attention to.
If Michelle and Colin get their Oscar they get a pass this year but god the nominating because the films are about "trouble artists" or "remember the past 60+ academy members" is really obvious this year.
If you had asked me before seeing Nope if I would ever find a strong silent type western character interesting ever again, I would have said "no way, that was 99% played out after Clint Eastwood and John Wayne stopped starring in movies, and the last 1% was covered by The Sopranos". But it turns out Daniel Kaluuya had a whole another entire character worth of strong silent type to add.
Really do feel like NOPE should've at least been nominated for Best Cinematography, the night shots in the film are beautiful. I was incredibly shocked when looking at Chris Stuckmann's Top 10 list didn't even have it as an honor mention because when looking at his review, he seemed to really like the film. I have it in my Top 3 for the year, it's unfortunate the film is forgettable as of now
Nando, just wanna say I love your content. I've studied film and we share a lot of background stuff but I digress. While watching Nope, the first time they try to catch a glimpse of this thing and he hides in the shed, my brain goes "This is JAWS!" and I'm so glad someone else thought of that. Thank you.
The Menu was my 3rd fav film of the year, 2nd being Inu-Oh from the legendary Masaaki Yuasa, and the 1st is EEAAO, because as a suicidal chronically failing and disappointing 26 year old who can't truly be honest with her parents, it made me cry so much that I felt the wetness on my cheeks for hours after the credits rolled. After seeing The Menu, I immediately went to my animation class group chat and told all my classmates that they had to see that film as soon as possible, because it absolutely resonates with the working artist, of all kinds and fields. What an amazing movie.
The fact Nope got zero nominations, especially Keke Palmer and some technical categories, is truly laughable. I agree it's one of the top couple films of the year.
Okay, I’m gonna break down some of my takes on your takes: 1) The Fabelmans is actually not about Steven Spielberg’s divorce. It’s about his upbringing. Nor does it actually have much to do with Hollywood. Again, it’s mostly just about him growing up and yes, his love for film is a part of the movie, but “Hollywood” doesn’t even really come in until pretty much the very end of the film. For the most part, it’s about a young Jewish-American kid growing up in mid-century America. 2) Your theory that NOPE missed out on a nomination because it criticized the film industry…eeeehhhhhh, I don’t know if that holds THAT much water. I’m not trying to be an Academy-apologist here, but I think that’s assuming that the film industry is a little too thin-skinned. Meanwhile, films like Birdman and Tropic Thunder which have either straight up mocked the film industry or sharply criticized its trends actually have gotten attention from the Academy. But I’m not gonna go so far as to say your theory has no basis. However, I would say that that theory would be more persuasive if we were examining why She Said didn’t get any nominations rather than NOPE. However, that leads me to: 3) I think NOPE failing to score an Oscar nomination for anything more so has to do with the facts that it (1) came out during the Summer; and (2) is a horror movie. Those two facts in tandem basically allowed the Academy to write it off as a stereotypical summer blockbuster. For one, Oscar voters are more likely to vote for things that are fresh in their mind. So a lot of summer movies tend to fall by the wayside. EEAAO is an exception really only because A-24 ran such a vigorous campaign and even re-released the film. And furthermore, the Academy has a very long-held (and very unfair) bias AGAINST horror movies. It’s unfair and honestly, old-fashioned, but the Academy does mostly stick to dramas, dramadies, and historical epics over other genres.
I think one thing that people really need to keep in perspective in regards to the Academy Awards is that these are industry awards subject to industry inter-politics in a way that the average joe will never fully understand. A friend who works in that industry described non-industry people being invested in the Oscars to a point where they get angry about it as being akin to being upset that your personal accountant didn't get nominated for an award at the Best Accountants Awards. Like, the Oscars are definitely worth paying attention to even if they don't care what the average joe thinks if only because they are a great indicator of what Hollywood values at that moment, but we need to keep in mind that our opinions on the awards ultimately don't matter because we hold no sway in an awards show that changed the rules for who gets to vote in which categories because a silent, relatively low-budget foreign film received a nomination for Best Animated Feature
The thing is this happens every year. It's not a surprise, We all know that the Academy is corrupt, naval gazing and out of touch. There are films that changed Society as a whole but they're more interested in forgettable pieces of trash that reiterates how important they are. I mean the animation category has been a laughing stock since the 'boss baby fiasco'. Honestly the Oscars deserves to be mocked out of existence, or at least changes into something at least half respectable.
@@wesstewart2677 Basically it’s just that Boss Baby won best animated picture one year. This was a fiasco because Boss Baby was an extremely bad movie.
@@Imaginary_One No it didn't. The fiasco was that it got nominated over films that many thought were more deserving, namely The Lego Batman Movie and the anime film A Silent Voice. Coco was the movie that ended up winning that year.
I don’t know. I feel like Birdman was also critical of Hollywood but that won best picture. I just feel like the Oscars are so hell bent on trying to get as many viewers as possible that even though they widened the nom list it’s only enabled them to highlight more spectacle movies and not necessarily to highlight smaller more original works.
I think this is because, even over superhero films, horror is the most overlooked genre at awards shows. I know, there was Exorcist and Silence of the Lambs but your horror movie has no chance to be recognized if it doesn't have high profile talent attached. Like this year, to me and a lot of my friends, Barbarian was easily the best and most original movie of the year. Haven't seen RRR yet, but as far as American films go, Everything Everywhere All at Once was amazing too but Barbarian is the only movie that I think was kind of flawless in its execution last year. And the fact that most people won't even know what it is is what irks me. Especially lately when horror releases are increasingly some of the better movies with each passing year.
Right? Like okay Hollywood is afraid of horror movies for best picture but like, THE CINEMATOGRAPHY WAS *chefs kiss*. Didn't they literally invent a new way to shoot night scenes for this movie? Like??? Or even SFX, that movie scared the shit out of me cause everything looked real. That's not even talking about the performances that, I thought, were some of the best of the whole damn year. Like why can't we event acknowledge this movie? Okay maybe I'm more than just bothered 😅
@@SilentHarpist Nope went to great lengths to push the boundaries of capturing day-for-night photography and bringing a lot of western sensibilities to the modern day. I don’t think they wholly invented anything new, but Van Hoytema and Peele innovated the hell out of techniques and really brought a fresh look to the screen. Their processes are particularly worth a deep study and definitely deserve an award! 😊
John Landis said the same thing about "An American Werewolf in London" He didn't get why it's considered a comedy/horror he has a point The two leads of the film die horrifically one is killed by a werewolf his friend lives with that guilt then becomes a werewolf that we see and it's extremely painful for him he kills innocent people then he's shot and killed
Friendly reminder that the academy awards was devised as a means to white wash Hollywood’s image back in the 1920s so they could appeal to midwest and eastern cultures in America. A dog was heavily considered as a candidate for best actor. And up until the 70s there was a meritocracy. I don’t know by what measure. The only Best Picture Award winner from before the 70s that I’ve seen was probably Sound of Music. So even back then the staying power of Oscar winners is dubious at best. So much like Nando said in the video, the existence of these awards was predicated on how Hollywood desires itself to be seen. Which is, mostly, safe and normal. This is the reason that genre films like horror, fantasy, and sci-fi rarely get chosen over biopics and dramas. Ps. For the record, I do think that the dog should have been nominated and won best actor. I’d also argue that Hollywood is, somehow, not very good at marketing itself. Then things changed Deer Hunter, which was one of the first movies to have its studio petition attention from the academy for its award. Maybe it deserved it, could not tell you. But sales of the movie skyrocketed afterwards. The money-brains took notice, and this became the precedent for how movies garnered a spot on the list and their awards. It sucks, but it does help temper expectations.
I was pretty happy with the Oscars this year. Nope deserved something (cinematography or sound for sure!), The Batman should have got a best score nomination, and Apollo 10½ should have been nominated for animated feature, those are my biggest complaints. Elvis deserves the love in my opinion, aside from Austin Buttler performance(it’s good but it’s not deep or anything). Elvis is a compleatly pure exersize in film making. It’s a big and bold explosion of sights, sounds, and emotions and I loved it. With that said, Nope was better, so was the Batman, wish the got best picture nominations instead.
Hollywood likes simple movies. 1) It's not the system that is bad, it is just one person and thus easier to fix. 2) Movies are important because they are art and the bad people in Hollywood are eventually pushed out by the overwhelming number of good people because art cannot be made by bad people. It is why movies like Nope, The Menu, and Wendy & Lucy are ignored while other movies like Green Book, Crash, and The Artist are handed awards. The latter movies give an easy answer about society and champion the brilliance that is needed to make a good movie while not critical of the system that has benefitted the business side of the movie industry. If they acknowledged the movies that give no easy answers and take a hard look at the industry then that means Hollywood has to do more than make superficial changes.
Everything you said about remembering a movie when thinking back about 2022 is how I feel about Everything Everywhere All at Once. Yes, it’s my Parasite of the year.
I will say Fableman’s was more about Jewish identity and family than Hollywood which is why it was my favorite movie of the year for its portrayal of growing up in the Jewish diaspora. Personally I found that Nope had third act issues. Rewatching, the movie peaked in the middle after the midnight *slurp* which is why it wasn’t a top contender for me vs. Get Out which never wasted a second of story and screen time. That said, way more deserving of a nomination that Avatar or Top Gun
This is exactly why I’m saying Charlie (MoistCritikal) should make his own “Oscar’s “ with legitimate fan voters and not locked to some cult voting plus with other internet hosts
One thing that annoys me about movie awards is that they will always give big awards to remakes of movies that have already won those same big awards like little women or a star is born. Like no shit they were great, all the work was already done for them. And little women was an adaptation of a book. Like they’re doing half the work of all these other movies and getting all the credit. In the words of our favourite psychopathic mother “that doesn’t seem fair”
I disagree. There have been many adaptations of Little Women. Not all of them got award recognition because most of them are just mediocre. Greta Gerwig brought something new to the old material and incorporated Alcott’s real life into the story and use non-linear storytelling to highlight the theme of the book that often got ignored. Film is a visual + audio medium. Making an adaptation doesn’t mean it is less work. There’s a common conception that “the book is always better.” Standing on its own and just being a good movie is nothing to sneeze at.
I think Forest Gump does meet your criteria. I'm not claiming it's a better film than Pulp Fiction. But it did enter the culture in a way few movies do, and it's certainly something people talked about for years. For better or worse, it's packed with iconic scenes. Unlike Shakespeare In Love, where 100% of the sentences people have said about that movie since is "who the hell thought Shakespeare in Love was a better picture than Saving Private Ryan???"
I honestly haven’t heard the overwhelming positive reception to Nope that you’re talking about: I do know a few people who liked it, but the people I know who saw it said it was just fine, probably just a little better or little worse than Us. Critical discourse seemed to fall around the same level. I do agree that it does always seem that a really good impression always seems to be held in more regard than a more subtle nuanced performance. One is visible and one isn’t. That being said, Everything Everywhere All At On is absolutely my favorite movie of the year, and I hope it gets some love at the awards.
Yeah, I was disappointed by Nope. I can see why some people liked it, but there were just too many messages. I wouldn't be upset if it had gotten nominated instead of Triangle of Sadness or Elvis, but it would be a mistake to put it on the same level as EEAAO, Banshees, Fabelmans, and All Quiet on the Western Front.
Hey, if there's anything we can learn from the LaLa Land Moonlight Oscar debacle, it's never too late for someone to have an oopsie and give it to Nope instead. Would also settle for Mad Max Fury Road getting its due.
NOPE’s Best Picture exclusion only adds to the larger discussion about the Academy’s distaste towards the horror genre. I know Peele (deservedly) got monumental acclaim for Get Out from the Academy, but that was like a Parasite situation, where if they ignored the movie the backlash would’ve been immense. We can only hope that as the new wave of horror auteurs continue to push the boundaries - such as Peele, Aster and co. - the attitude begins to change so that these immensely talented people can actually get the acclaim they deserve. But I’m not very confident that will happen any time soon based on recent trends sadly.
for a long while now I've been saying the oscars are basically worthless from an artistic viewpoint. it is nice when movies or people you like get the recognition you think they deserve (I was happy when birdman won BP, or when emma stone and PSH won best actors) but they are not a definitive statement on a movie's quality. because that is subjective and always will be. if 70 people in the academy like a movie/performance, it doesn't make it objectively the best. I stopped getting angry at snubs or undeserved wins because it is wasted energy. all of these people are millionaires anyways, why the hell should I care one way or another? for example, angela basset's nom is something so outrageous I would've gotten mad at it and shared my disdain for this decision on the internet but nowadays I just laugh about it. stupid decision? yes. did she have countless better performances for which she never even got nominated? of course. is it a slap in the face of so many actors that put on great performances in mcu movies? oh hell yes. but yeah, it's not gonna change any of our lives so why give a shit. I'll be happy for farrell, mcdonagh and every single oscar that banshees of inisherin may get. because I think the movie was great and I like the people in and behind it.
re: Fabelmans I actually think it’s a long shot to win BP at this point and it’s much more likely EEAAO takes it bc it’s the most nominated movie in the field which indicates strong support for it among voters
The Menu got around by word of mouth, but it was awful. It felt like a student film with a huge budget. The story was bland, and the ending was laughable. 1/10 for me
None of these award ceremonies need to be on television. Oscars, Emmys, Grammys, Globes, whatever. We don't need to watch industry awards. They should be for colleagues and peers to celebrate each other. They certainly shouldn't be a way to define the best movie in the world every year because, as per usual, America thinks it's the centre of the universe.
Babylon was also very critical of the Hollywood film industry in the golden age and was looked at more for the flaws then what actually worked about the film
Agree. Babylon is a masterpiece but also a slap in the face to the Hollywood machine and the media. It's by far my favorite movie of the year. The year 2023 because it was released in January. Saw it twice at cinemas. It will become a cult classic in a few years and they'll regret all the hate it's getting today
2022 was a great year for movies, I think that's why it's harder to pick a clear frontrunner (even though eeaao is the best in my opinion) I'm disappointed (but not at all surprised) that nope wasn't nominated, especially when they let avatar and Elvis on the list
Personally I think the Oscars overlooked Rocketman because even the Academy knew they overvalued Bohemian Rhapsody, and Rocketman got the bill. Also, yes, the Oscars are bad at identifying the movies that have long-term impact. We're still chasing the high of Raiders of the Lost Ark, while Chariots of Fire is a hard Jeopardy question.
I mean, sure they don't always make the right choice, but that Vangelis soundtrack makes Chariots of Fire anything but forgettable! So in my opinion that wouldn't be the best example. It was even referenced at the iconic London Olympics opening with Rowan Atkinson aka Mr. Bean. :)
I think an argument for She Said goes along with your plea for Nope. She Said was critical of someone that a lot of the academy were friends with, so they avoided it like the plague.
My favourite movie of the year is All Quiet At The Western Front. It's a really good adaptation of my favourite book and it's on the highest tier of war movies. If it doesn't win then I hope The Banshees of Inisherin gets some love.
the head tilt.........................after gathering and clearing the entire academy for disregarding nope yes everyone im falling in love with nando its official
Get Out was more perfectly executed than Nope. Nope was really good, but it had too many extraneous details and odd moments towards the end. It could have been cut down and been even more effective. That being said, it certainly deserved being nominated over Elvis. RRR is the far bigger snub to me.
RRR's snub was due to being unsubmitted to represent India for International Feature (The Indian Film Committee selected Last Film Show instead), which damaged any chance for Best Picture.
Um... forget about 5-10 years. Nobody is talking about Nope now. And the reason for that is that nobody has seen Nope. It's Jorand Peele's lowest grossing movie by a bit. And that is audience rejecting it. Not Hollywood. And that's why it's not getting awards consideration. And this isn't like a movie like Nomadland where it's an art house indie project with limited appeal. Jordan Peele has been mainstream with mainstream success, and Nope was made for mainstream audiences. So the fact that audiences didn't appreciate it is why the Academy also don't recognize it. No conspiracy
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who got hit by Elvis's pacing. Nope should've at least gotten something with sound and cinematography and the Menu should've gotten acknowledged at least for its production design. Like okay, they're not going to reward the acting or writing even though they should, but they should've gotten something! And as I'm writing this, Michelle Yeoh just became the first Asian actress to win the award for Best Actress and I hate that the Oscars are almost 100 years old and we're still getting "firsts".
FACTS. I don't watch many movies, so Nope was actually the first Peele movie I watched, and it was so good! Definitely going to check out his other ones when I have time
Like most biopics, I felt like I learned close to nothing from Fabelmans about Spielberg that I couldn't learn better from watching his best art. Not that it was bad, I really enjoyed it. But that I don't feel like I "get" Spielberg any better now.
I think you missed the obvious reason certain pictures get nominated and win: money. It's a widely known thing and even joked about that they throw parties with the people who run the awards ceremonies so that they can influence them
The best sandwich I ever had was at the aga khan museum like 8 years ago, I was actually just thinking about that. The best meal was probably in Oaxaca right beside the botanical gardens in the main square. You’re right, you do remember stuff like that in retrospective. I cannot believe Nope wasn’t even nominated.
I think this might be an issue with major awards in general. When I go through the various "big" awards for books, I find the winner and nominations to be relatively good, but not nearly anywhere close to the BEST. A lot of them feel safe, therefore have a more wide appeal. It's also interesting to see how these awards tend to ignore foreign language or independent creations.
Everything Everywhere all at Once was my favorite movie that I saw, and I hope it takes home a ton of prizes. Although Nope wasn’t my favorite, I thought it was way better then Avatar 2, Top Gun Maverick (both of which I liked and liked better than their predecessors). For that matter, I personally thought Black Panther 2 was better than Avatar 2 (though not as good as those other two) I missed a ton of films this year because I now have a 4 year old in my life, but the neglect that horror and black films get is hugely notable. Legit though, of the actual nominees I’ve only seen those three. Personally, I don’t know if the being critical of the film industry thing is actually as much at play here. Nope and Us are even for me as far Jordan Peele’s movies go, but I like get out better, and although I find it to be his most beautiful and visually stunning film, I find the narrative to be the most abstract and loose. All of that being said, the tech awards this year were straight up confounding. Top Gun, Nope, and Everything Everywhere All At Once should have all gotten cinematography, sound, editing, and effects noms but they each only got some or none. However, I think it’s fair to note that Nope had several things going against it, one, it was critically divisive, two, it was horror, three, it’s critical of Hollywood, and four, black people keep getting shafted. I’m willing to admit, though, that my love for EEAAO is coloring my reaction to the Oscar’s this year.
RRR is the most Oscar movie ever! -Period Piece -Hollywood Blockbuster -Foreign Film -Sincere Musical -War Movie -Romance and Action -Loved by Both Critics and Audiences, WORLDWIDE -Long as Hell! So what's wrong with it? Brown cast & crew. :/
The Oscars suck because their archaic “must go to theaters” rule means that “Weird: the Al Yankovic Story” can’t be nominated for anything, much less nominated for every single category like it deserves to be nominated for.
The entire premise is ridiculous. Movies and art are subjectively enjoyed or not enjoyed. It's absolutely bizarre to criticise one film being nominated over another you preferred. Your preference isn't proof of anything or worth any more than anyone else's 🤷♂️
This is a weird video, as it just comes across as "Well my picks weren't there, and things I didn't like are, so it's bad", might as well be a "THIS WAS ROBBED?!" tweet. For me, 'Nope' not being involved is fine, but 'Decision to Leave' being absent was shocking. Doesn't mean I think the whole thing is terrible because my choice isn't there. Very strange thing coming from you Nando, usually come across pretty well, with a calm general outlook, but this... aint it.
Honestly I feel like rewatchability should be as important to film as replayability is to games, you could have the best movie of all time, a genuine perfect movie, but if it’s a slog to revisit more than once compared to a meh/good movie you could watch like twice a month it shouldn’t be the better of the two imo
So I can tell I’m in the minority here, but as someone who absolutely loved Elvis (2nd favourite movie of the year) and didn’t like nope, I’m quite happy with the Oscars this year. I loved triangle of sadness and that got great nominations. Same with EEAAO and Banshees of Inisherin. It’s very strange to have two, billion dollar movies in the best picture line up. Both of them proved themselves as solid movies that were crowd pleasers. Your musical biopic theory was probably more true a couple years ago when Rami Malek won. Now, Rocketman, Respect and I Wanna Dance with Somebody have all failed to make it in. I think Elvis was so strong in the costumes, make up and editing categories that when paired with an excellent lead performance, made it a shoe in for best picture.
Very well said. I don't know if you'll read this Nando but if you do i'd love to hear your thoughts: Wherever you stand with what movies should gain appreciation, to me the oscars have always seemed like a fundamentally flawed idea. I bring this up mainly because I feel it becomes more and more relevant each passing year. What makes a small group of people inside of the creatively stifling hollywood system qualified to decide what the pinnacle of film is that year? Especially when they haven't even given half of the other movies that come out a fair shake. Isn't it regressive to turn art into this competition instead of appreciating films individually for what each is trying to say? It feels ridiculous to me to compare a dark best-friend Break up film like Banshees to a fun action movie like Everything Everywhere (Both of which are great btw). But for some reason we're expected to because of the academy. We can certainly look at movies that have had the greatest cultural impact, but that can only really be revealed over time. An awards ceremony only looking at one year isn't going to feasibly be able to determine that. There is the argument that the oscars provide films with acclaim. Maybe that's true to a point, but with so many other means like word of social media appreciation these days and the amount of money films make i'm struggling to see how it's worth distorting how we talk about and appreciate film. Anyway, that's my rant for the year. If this gets read on another video I'll say hi mum!
My top 10 movies of the year hardly got anything. EEAAO was the only one in there with a best picture nom, and that was number 5. The Batman, Wakanda Forever, RRR, The Northman, Glass Onion, Bullet Train, Prey, The Menu, and of course Nope we’re all snubbed for multiple categories.
Personally I thought that they left out a lot of movies off best picture. Like Nope, Glass onion, the Batman. And a couple of others. I don’t think they should win this be nominated for best picture.
Just heard my wife mention something she heard/learned a day or two ago. But she learned that there were campaigning rules to get a movie nominated. To me this takes a lot of the value out of the show...I'd be interested if anyone can shed any validity or details about this.
Yes it is true but it’s not them paying off the Oscars. Essentially the studios release films closer to the Oscar season and then pay to promote the hell out of it aka interviews, ads, pretty much have the talent behind and in front out their foot forward and TALK about the film. How it comes to nominations and winning, each category essentially is represented by their respective branch ie directing by the Directors Guild, etc. That group of all the top directors nominate what they believe are the best directed films. Then the people in the Academy body vote on the best in that category. Hope that helps!
@@kevinpauly6342 , hey thanks. My wife was alluding to someone not 'campaigning' correctly so the Academy was having a meeting to go over and/or change the 'rules'. I could have completely misunderstood what she was talking about...lol, but thanks again!
I'm so happy that Nando seemingly is just making whatever videos he wants on this channel. Rants, hot takes, I'm here for all of it.
Me too lol I like knowing what he thinks of things
Same. I love it
100%! This guy has soo much runway with me. Love the stuff he puts out
facts it gives insight into his process for other videos and ideas.
Agreed.
I think it's interesting you mention "The Menu" as being a film that got snubbed because it, much like "Nope", is also very critical of the film industry. Its ending, in particular, is critical of the pageantry and prestige of award ceremonies and award-bait films.
It sucks that so many of the films in this year's Oscar lineup haven't came out where I am yet, even though we've had adverts up for ages. And even then, most of the ones with multiple nominations across several categories? Didn't last two weeks at my cinema.
The Nando Cut does not miss.
Justice League's "You Should Probably Move" Cut needs to look out.
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Hi Blue! Also, facts my man
"Elvis was the acting equivalent of a painting of a bowl of fruit"
Lol
Insurmountable L take. Austin Butler is relentlessly entertaining in that role.
Yeah he does a good impersonation, that’s literally the first thing you learn to do in acting, and is only entertaining enough for an SNL skit, not an entire movie lying about a man who abused women. 👎👎 Horrible movie.
The Academy needs to get over its love affair with biopics. They always have an advantage with the Academy even if they're not very good. They taking up spots that much better movies, performances, etc. deserve.
Ngl, Elvis deserves the award for Production Design. They immitated the real Elvis scenes incredibly well. But yeah, that still doesn't make Butler the best Elvis impersonator.
Agreed! It would be one thing if they were taking a critical look at the past, and telling the story from other perspectives. But I have no interest in watching a movie by men about a man who abused women, and it’s made to look romantic.
Just make it its own category at this point
If they're white biopics
The only black biopic that got academy award wins was Jamie Foxx won for Ray
That's a great observation you made, how the Academy ignored Nope because the movie was hypercritical about Hollywood. Yet I think a bigger (and simpler) reason is that it simply is a horror/sci-fi movie, which the Academy has genre bias towards. They made an exception for Get Out though because it was a mega-successful movie that commented on Black racism. They didn't want to be seen as a bunch of racists for not acknowledging one of the biggest movies of the year that likewise condemned racism towards the Black community.
One thing the Oscars did better than the Globes is nominating Stephanie Hsu. She had the best performance in one of the best films where everyone brought it.
I still can't believe Top Gun Maverick missed Oscars nomination for Best Cinematography. It was so inventive and flawless to watch. Was the frontrunner and won almost all the critics awards. I felt like a fan of the Oscars a slap to the face, no pun intended
It’s the only category I think they should be nominated for (and I really liked the movie, I just think that’s the only way it outshined other movies this year)
I didn't particularly care for top gun maverick but that snub in cinematography deserves a law suit
The Oscars ALWAYS overlook horror too. Mia Goth deserved a nomination for her performance in Pearl
Her monologue before she kills her sister in law was literally oscar worthy
That monologue saved that movie for me. I was fairly lukewarm on it up to that point, but that sequence made the whole thing worth it.
I made a bagel sandwich in college years ago that I still think about from time to time because it was THAT good
lol
...a bagel sandwich?
I had a vegan Reuben sandwich from a local restaurant in 2021 the best I ever had
Nope wasn't nominated because the studio didn't campaign for it. Universal put all the money in Fabelmans, probably because it is easier to win best picture from a movie like Fabelmans than Nope.
At the same time that I agree that a movie shouldn't need a campaign for it to get an award it makes some sense that the members of the academy can't watch every movie, so you need to give them some sort of spotlight.
Then IDK call the category “Best Picture The Studio Paid To Promote”
Everyone in the academy should probably be watching every Jordan Peele film and every Steven Spielberg film. Kinda lazy imo. Jordan Peele and Steven Spielberg are clearly established threats for these awards
@@drainstorM11 Last year academy members were tasked with watching 160 films in this list. It would've taken every member 306 hours and 48 minutes to watch them all.
If you have a vote at the academy you should be watching every movie, it's your job lmao
@Trao oh, how dare they make people who get to decide how movies are ranked watch the equivalent of three films a week?
Fact check: Hollywood is not the only industry that gives itself awards on stage. In fact, a lot of professions are keen on doing that. Hollywood’s awards are just the ones we give the most attention to.
Yeah, the Grammys are an obvious example.
@@stevenbobbybills espys as well
If Michelle and Colin get their Oscar they get a pass this year but god the nominating because the films are about "trouble artists" or "remember the past 60+ academy members" is really obvious this year.
If you had asked me before seeing Nope if I would ever find a strong silent type western character interesting ever again, I would have said "no way, that was 99% played out after Clint Eastwood and John Wayne stopped starring in movies, and the last 1% was covered by The Sopranos". But it turns out Daniel Kaluuya had a whole another entire character worth of strong silent type to add.
The batman deserved to be nominated for best picture and cinematography
Really do feel like NOPE should've at least been nominated for Best Cinematography, the night shots in the film are beautiful. I was incredibly shocked when looking at Chris Stuckmann's Top 10 list didn't even have it as an honor mention because when looking at his review, he seemed to really like the film. I have it in my Top 3 for the year, it's unfortunate the film is forgettable as of now
Nando, just wanna say I love your content. I've studied film and we share a lot of background stuff but I digress. While watching Nope, the first time they try to catch a glimpse of this thing and he hides in the shed, my brain goes "This is JAWS!" and I'm so glad someone else thought of that. Thank you.
The Menu was my 3rd fav film of the year, 2nd being Inu-Oh from the legendary Masaaki Yuasa, and the 1st is EEAAO, because as a suicidal chronically failing and disappointing 26 year old who can't truly be honest with her parents, it made me cry so much that I felt the wetness on my cheeks for hours after the credits rolled.
After seeing The Menu, I immediately went to my animation class group chat and told all my classmates that they had to see that film as soon as possible, because it absolutely resonates with the working artist, of all kinds and fields. What an amazing movie.
The fact Nope got zero nominations, especially Keke Palmer and some technical categories, is truly laughable. I agree it's one of the top couple films of the year.
Okay, I’m gonna break down some of my takes on your takes:
1) The Fabelmans is actually not about Steven Spielberg’s divorce. It’s about his upbringing. Nor does it actually have much to do with Hollywood. Again, it’s mostly just about him growing up and yes, his love for film is a part of the movie, but “Hollywood” doesn’t even really come in until pretty much the very end of the film. For the most part, it’s about a young Jewish-American kid growing up in mid-century America.
2) Your theory that NOPE missed out on a nomination because it criticized the film industry…eeeehhhhhh, I don’t know if that holds THAT much water. I’m not trying to be an Academy-apologist here, but I think that’s assuming that the film industry is a little too thin-skinned. Meanwhile, films like Birdman and Tropic Thunder which have either straight up mocked the film industry or sharply criticized its trends actually have gotten attention from the Academy. But I’m not gonna go so far as to say your theory has no basis. However, I would say that that theory would be more persuasive if we were examining why She Said didn’t get any nominations rather than NOPE.
However, that leads me to:
3) I think NOPE failing to score an Oscar nomination for anything more so has to do with the facts that it (1) came out during the Summer; and (2) is a horror movie. Those two facts in tandem basically allowed the Academy to write it off as a stereotypical summer blockbuster. For one, Oscar voters are more likely to vote for things that are fresh in their mind. So a lot of summer movies tend to fall by the wayside. EEAAO is an exception really only because A-24 ran such a vigorous campaign and even re-released the film. And furthermore, the Academy has a very long-held (and very unfair) bias AGAINST horror movies. It’s unfair and honestly, old-fashioned, but the Academy does mostly stick to dramas, dramadies, and historical epics over other genres.
Academy: 𝗡𝗼𝗽𝗲
*nando starts spittin’*
I think one thing that people really need to keep in perspective in regards to the Academy Awards is that these are industry awards subject to industry inter-politics in a way that the average joe will never fully understand. A friend who works in that industry described non-industry people being invested in the Oscars to a point where they get angry about it as being akin to being upset that your personal accountant didn't get nominated for an award at the Best Accountants Awards. Like, the Oscars are definitely worth paying attention to even if they don't care what the average joe thinks if only because they are a great indicator of what Hollywood values at that moment, but we need to keep in mind that our opinions on the awards ultimately don't matter because we hold no sway in an awards show that changed the rules for who gets to vote in which categories because a silent, relatively low-budget foreign film received a nomination for Best Animated Feature
The thing is this happens every year. It's not a surprise, We all know that the Academy is corrupt, naval gazing and out of touch. There are films that changed Society as a whole but they're more interested in forgettable pieces of trash that reiterates how important they are. I mean the animation category has been a laughing stock since the 'boss baby fiasco'. Honestly the Oscars deserves to be mocked out of existence, or at least changes into something at least half respectable.
Okay, please explain since I’m out of the loop. But what is the boss baby fiasco?
@@wesstewart2677 Basically it’s just that Boss Baby won best animated picture one year. This was a fiasco because Boss Baby was an extremely bad movie.
@@Imaginary_One No it didn't. The fiasco was that it got nominated over films that many thought were more deserving, namely The Lego Batman Movie and the anime film A Silent Voice.
Coco was the movie that ended up winning that year.
@@pulsai86 Welp turns out I was misinformed. Oh well.
@pulsai86 holy shit, Boss Baby got nominated over LEGO Batman?
I don’t know. I feel like Birdman was also critical of Hollywood but that won best picture. I just feel like the Oscars are so hell bent on trying to get as many viewers as possible that even though they widened the nom list it’s only enabled them to highlight more spectacle movies and not necessarily to highlight smaller more original works.
I think this is because, even over superhero films, horror is the most overlooked genre at awards shows. I know, there was Exorcist and Silence of the Lambs but your horror movie has no chance to be recognized if it doesn't have high profile talent attached. Like this year, to me and a lot of my friends, Barbarian was easily the best and most original movie of the year. Haven't seen RRR yet, but as far as American films go, Everything Everywhere All at Once was amazing too but Barbarian is the only movie that I think was kind of flawless in its execution last year. And the fact that most people won't even know what it is is what irks me. Especially lately when horror releases are increasingly some of the better movies with each passing year.
Nope having no nominations at the Oscars this year bothers me, deeply.
Right? Like okay Hollywood is afraid of horror movies for best picture but like, THE CINEMATOGRAPHY WAS *chefs kiss*. Didn't they literally invent a new way to shoot night scenes for this movie? Like??? Or even SFX, that movie scared the shit out of me cause everything looked real. That's not even talking about the performances that, I thought, were some of the best of the whole damn year. Like why can't we event acknowledge this movie?
Okay maybe I'm more than just bothered 😅
@@SilentHarpist Nope went to great lengths to push the boundaries of capturing day-for-night photography and bringing a lot of western sensibilities to the modern day. I don’t think they wholly invented anything new, but Van Hoytema and Peele innovated the hell out of techniques and really brought a fresh look to the screen. Their processes are particularly worth a deep study and definitely deserve an award! 😊
Reminds me of when Get Out got nominated as a comedy and Jordan Peele just said "Which part was funniest to you? Which part did you laugh at most?"
John Landis said the same thing about "An American Werewolf in London"
He didn't get why it's considered a comedy/horror he has a point
The two leads of the film die horrifically one is killed by a werewolf his friend lives with that guilt then becomes a werewolf that we see and it's extremely painful for him he kills innocent people then he's shot and killed
Friendly reminder that the academy awards was devised as a means to white wash Hollywood’s image back in the 1920s so they could appeal to midwest and eastern cultures in America. A dog was heavily considered as a candidate for best actor. And up until the 70s there was a meritocracy. I don’t know by what measure. The only Best Picture Award winner from before the 70s that I’ve seen was probably Sound of Music. So even back then the staying power of Oscar winners is dubious at best. So much like Nando said in the video, the existence of these awards was predicated on how Hollywood desires itself to be seen. Which is, mostly, safe and normal. This is the reason that genre films like horror, fantasy, and sci-fi rarely get chosen over biopics and dramas.
Ps. For the record, I do think that the dog should have been nominated and won best actor.
I’d also argue that Hollywood is, somehow, not very good at marketing itself.
Then things changed Deer Hunter, which was one of the first movies to have its studio petition attention from the academy for its award. Maybe it deserved it, could not tell you. But sales of the movie skyrocketed afterwards. The money-brains took notice, and this became the precedent for how movies garnered a spot on the list and their awards. It sucks, but it does help temper expectations.
My top three were RRR, The Northman, and Barbarian, and RRR only got best song nomination, and Barbarian was snubbed for best makeup/hairstyling
I was pretty happy with the Oscars this year. Nope deserved something (cinematography or sound for sure!), The Batman should have got a best score nomination, and Apollo 10½ should have been nominated for animated feature, those are my biggest complaints. Elvis deserves the love in my opinion, aside from Austin Buttler performance(it’s good but it’s not deep or anything). Elvis is a compleatly pure exersize in film making. It’s a big and bold explosion of sights, sounds, and emotions and I loved it. With that said, Nope was better, so was the Batman, wish the got best picture nominations instead.
Politics is the reason why the Oscars are awful, Hollywood needs to change course or continue to lose more and more viewers every year.
Hollywood likes simple movies. 1) It's not the system that is bad, it is just one person and thus easier to fix. 2) Movies are important because they are art and the bad people in Hollywood are eventually pushed out by the overwhelming number of good people because art cannot be made by bad people.
It is why movies like Nope, The Menu, and Wendy & Lucy are ignored while other movies like Green Book, Crash, and The Artist are handed awards. The latter movies give an easy answer about society and champion the brilliance that is needed to make a good movie while not critical of the system that has benefitted the business side of the movie industry. If they acknowledged the movies that give no easy answers and take a hard look at the industry then that means Hollywood has to do more than make superficial changes.
Everything you said about remembering a movie when thinking back about 2022 is how I feel about Everything Everywhere All at Once. Yes, it’s my Parasite of the year.
I will say Fableman’s was more about Jewish identity and family than Hollywood which is why it was my favorite movie of the year for its portrayal of growing up in the Jewish diaspora.
Personally I found that Nope had third act issues. Rewatching, the movie peaked in the middle after the midnight *slurp* which is why it wasn’t a top contender for me vs. Get Out which never wasted a second of story and screen time. That said, way more deserving of a nomination that Avatar or Top Gun
This is exactly why I’m saying Charlie (MoistCritikal) should make his own “Oscar’s “ with legitimate fan voters and not locked to some cult voting plus with other internet hosts
One thing that annoys me about movie awards is that they will always give big awards to remakes of movies that have already won those same big awards like little women or a star is born. Like no shit they were great, all the work was already done for them. And little women was an adaptation of a book. Like they’re doing half the work of all these other movies and getting all the credit. In the words of our favourite psychopathic mother “that doesn’t seem fair”
I disagree. There have been many adaptations of Little Women. Not all of them got award recognition because most of them are just mediocre. Greta Gerwig brought something new to the old material and incorporated Alcott’s real life into the story and use non-linear storytelling to highlight the theme of the book that often got ignored.
Film is a visual + audio medium. Making an adaptation doesn’t mean it is less work. There’s a common conception that “the book is always better.” Standing on its own and just being a good movie is nothing to sneeze at.
I greatly appreciate the way you've started the last couple videos.
I think Forest Gump does meet your criteria. I'm not claiming it's a better film than Pulp Fiction. But it did enter the culture in a way few movies do, and it's certainly something people talked about for years. For better or worse, it's packed with iconic scenes. Unlike Shakespeare In Love, where 100% of the sentences people have said about that movie since is "who the hell thought Shakespeare in Love was a better picture than Saving Private Ryan???"
It feels stupid to compare the two, but Forest Gump and Pulp Fiction are both 10’s for completely different reasons
I honestly haven’t heard the overwhelming positive reception to Nope that you’re talking about: I do know a few people who liked it, but the people I know who saw it said it was just fine, probably just a little better or little worse than Us. Critical discourse seemed to fall around the same level.
I do agree that it does always seem that a really good impression always seems to be held in more regard than a more subtle nuanced performance. One is visible and one isn’t.
That being said, Everything Everywhere All At On is absolutely my favorite movie of the year, and I hope it gets some love at the awards.
Yeah, I was disappointed by Nope. I can see why some people liked it, but there were just too many messages.
I wouldn't be upset if it had gotten nominated instead of Triangle of Sadness or Elvis, but it would be a mistake to put it on the same level as EEAAO, Banshees, Fabelmans, and All Quiet on the Western Front.
I will freak out if they don't give the best movie oscar to Everything Everywhere All At Once
Elvis must win it
I just think it would be the funniest thing ever if Avatar: The Way of Water or Top Gun: Maverick run away with it.
Hey, if there's anything we can learn from the LaLa Land Moonlight Oscar debacle, it's never too late for someone to have an oopsie and give it to Nope instead.
Would also settle for Mad Max Fury Road getting its due.
Most professions give awards on stage. They just don't usually draw a televised audience.
NOPE’s Best Picture exclusion only adds to the larger discussion about the Academy’s distaste towards the horror genre. I know Peele (deservedly) got monumental acclaim for Get Out from the Academy, but that was like a Parasite situation, where if they ignored the movie the backlash would’ve been immense. We can only hope that as the new wave of horror auteurs continue to push the boundaries - such as Peele, Aster and co. - the attitude begins to change so that these immensely talented people can actually get the acclaim they deserve. But I’m not very confident that will happen any time soon based on recent trends sadly.
12:38 I used to live in Austin, and I was instantly thinking Terry Black’s!
The most delicious brisket I've had in a long time
for a long while now I've been saying the oscars are basically worthless from an artistic viewpoint. it is nice when movies or people you like get the recognition you think they deserve (I was happy when birdman won BP, or when emma stone and PSH won best actors) but they are not a definitive statement on a movie's quality. because that is subjective and always will be. if 70 people in the academy like a movie/performance, it doesn't make it objectively the best. I stopped getting angry at snubs or undeserved wins because it is wasted energy. all of these people are millionaires anyways, why the hell should I care one way or another? for example, angela basset's nom is something so outrageous I would've gotten mad at it and shared my disdain for this decision on the internet but nowadays I just laugh about it. stupid decision? yes. did she have countless better performances for which she never even got nominated? of course. is it a slap in the face of so many actors that put on great performances in mcu movies? oh hell yes. but yeah, it's not gonna change any of our lives so why give a shit. I'll be happy for farrell, mcdonagh and every single oscar that banshees of inisherin may get. because I think the movie was great and I like the people in and behind it.
re: Fabelmans I actually think it’s a long shot to win BP at this point and it’s much more likely EEAAO takes it bc it’s the most nominated movie in the field which indicates strong support for it among voters
The Menu got around by word of mouth, but it was awful. It felt like a student film with a huge budget. The story was bland, and the ending was laughable. 1/10 for me
None of these award ceremonies need to be on television. Oscars, Emmys, Grammys, Globes, whatever. We don't need to watch industry awards. They should be for colleagues and peers to celebrate each other. They certainly shouldn't be a way to define the best movie in the world every year because, as per usual, America thinks it's the centre of the universe.
Babylon was also very critical of the Hollywood film industry in the golden age and was looked at more for the flaws then what actually worked about the film
Agree. Babylon is a masterpiece but also a slap in the face to the Hollywood machine and the media. It's by far my favorite movie of the year. The year 2023 because it was released in January. Saw it twice at cinemas. It will become a cult classic in a few years and they'll regret all the hate it's getting today
2022 was a great year for movies, I think that's why it's harder to pick a clear frontrunner (even though eeaao is the best in my opinion) I'm disappointed (but not at all surprised) that nope wasn't nominated, especially when they let avatar and Elvis on the list
Nope was so much less than I expected. If it had been nominated I would've been disappointed
Personally I think the Oscars overlooked Rocketman because even the Academy knew they overvalued Bohemian Rhapsody, and Rocketman got the bill.
Also, yes, the Oscars are bad at identifying the movies that have long-term impact. We're still chasing the high of Raiders of the Lost Ark, while Chariots of Fire is a hard Jeopardy question.
I mean, sure they don't always make the right choice, but that Vangelis soundtrack makes Chariots of Fire anything but forgettable! So in my opinion that wouldn't be the best example. It was even referenced at the iconic London Olympics opening with Rowan Atkinson aka Mr. Bean. :)
I think an argument for She Said goes along with your plea for Nope. She Said was critical of someone that a lot of the academy were friends with, so they avoided it like the plague.
My favourite movie of the year is All Quiet At The Western Front. It's a really good adaptation of my favourite book and it's on the highest tier of war movies. If it doesn't win then I hope The Banshees of Inisherin gets some love.
man, musical biopics are everywhere lately.
I hate how the Oscars always overlook horror movies and specially animation in general because they treat this medium as a genre just for kids.
Absolutely loving the Nando Cut! Really good energy!
the head tilt.........................after gathering and clearing the entire academy for disregarding nope
yes everyone im falling in love with nando its official
I’m LOVING the nando cut vids
Get Out was more perfectly executed than Nope. Nope was really good, but it had too many extraneous details and odd moments towards the end. It could have been cut down and been even more effective. That being said, it certainly deserved being nominated over Elvis. RRR is the far bigger snub to me.
RRR's snub was due to being unsubmitted to represent India for International Feature (The Indian Film Committee selected Last Film Show instead), which damaged any chance for Best Picture.
All Quiet was great! Not a slog either. Highly recommend
The Menu should have been nominated for Best Screen Play, Best Actor and Best Actress at bare minimum. It and nope were the biggest snubs of the year.
Also the Bob's Burgers Movie should have been nominated over Sea Beast.
It's always hilarious seeing the obvious Oscar-bait films swoop in when films people actually liked get ignored.
Um... forget about 5-10 years. Nobody is talking about Nope now. And the reason for that is that nobody has seen Nope. It's Jorand Peele's lowest grossing movie by a bit. And that is audience rejecting it. Not Hollywood. And that's why it's not getting awards consideration. And this isn't like a movie like Nomadland where it's an art house indie project with limited appeal. Jordan Peele has been mainstream with mainstream success, and Nope was made for mainstream audiences. So the fact that audiences didn't appreciate it is why the Academy also don't recognize it. No conspiracy
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who got hit by Elvis's pacing. Nope should've at least gotten something with sound and cinematography and the Menu should've gotten acknowledged at least for its production design. Like okay, they're not going to reward the acting or writing even though they should, but they should've gotten something! And as I'm writing this, Michelle Yeoh just became the first Asian actress to win the award for Best Actress and I hate that the Oscars are almost 100 years old and we're still getting "firsts".
Love the shout-out for Terry's Black! We have great food here in Austin
Completely agree! also plz go watch all quiet on the western front (on the biggest screen you can), it's phenomenal
FACTS. I don't watch many movies, so Nope was actually the first Peele movie I watched, and it was so good! Definitely going to check out his other ones when I have time
I didn't really care for Nope. I thought Get Out was phenomenal and Us was really good and scary in a unique way.
Watching this and realizing "Oh yeah, do you guys remember The Artist?" Because of course you don't.
Like most biopics, I felt like I learned close to nothing from Fabelmans about Spielberg that I couldn't learn better from watching his best art. Not that it was bad, I really enjoyed it. But that I don't feel like I "get" Spielberg any better now.
4:38 - Me, looking at the Mostly Nitpicking podcast feed
I love this channel 😫Nando be so quality regardless of the subject
When you started talking about the best bbq sandwich, my first thought was Terry Black's in Austin.
genuinely confused cause i thought Us was fantastic and Nope was meh
I think you missed the obvious reason certain pictures get nominated and win: money. It's a widely known thing and even joked about that they throw parties with the people who run the awards ceremonies so that they can influence them
The Beginning of nope will live rent free in my head forever
The best sandwich I ever had was at the aga khan museum like 8 years ago, I was actually just thinking about that. The best meal was probably in Oaxaca right beside the botanical gardens in the main square. You’re right, you do remember stuff like that in retrospective.
I cannot believe Nope wasn’t even nominated.
I see Nando decided to wake up this day and chose to spit nothing but fax
I think this might be an issue with major awards in general. When I go through the various "big" awards for books, I find the winner and nominations to be relatively good, but not nearly anywhere close to the BEST. A lot of them feel safe, therefore have a more wide appeal. It's also interesting to see how these awards tend to ignore foreign language or independent creations.
I'm starting to love the 15 second, WTF :D
Everything Everywhere all at Once was my favorite movie that I saw, and I hope it takes home a ton of prizes. Although Nope wasn’t my favorite, I thought it was way better then Avatar 2, Top Gun Maverick (both of which I liked and liked better than their predecessors). For that matter, I personally thought Black Panther 2 was better than Avatar 2 (though not as good as those other two) I missed a ton of films this year because I now have a 4 year old in my life, but the neglect that horror and black films get is hugely notable. Legit though, of the actual nominees I’ve only seen those three. Personally, I don’t know if the being critical of the film industry thing is actually as much at play here. Nope and Us are even for me as far Jordan Peele’s movies go, but I like get out better, and although I find it to be his most beautiful and visually stunning film, I find the narrative to be the most abstract and loose.
All of that being said, the tech awards this year were straight up confounding. Top Gun, Nope, and Everything Everywhere All At Once should have all gotten cinematography, sound, editing, and effects noms but they each only got some or none. However, I think it’s fair to note that Nope had several things going against it, one, it was critically divisive, two, it was horror, three, it’s critical of Hollywood, and four, black people keep getting shafted.
I’m willing to admit, though, that my love for EEAAO is coloring my reaction to the Oscar’s this year.
RRR is the most Oscar movie ever!
-Period Piece
-Hollywood Blockbuster
-Foreign Film
-Sincere Musical
-War Movie
-Romance and Action
-Loved by Both Critics and Audiences, WORLDWIDE
-Long as Hell!
So what's wrong with it? Brown cast & crew. :/
I liked Nope the first time I saw it, but I loved it the second time! It’s genuinely a brilliant film imo.
The Oscars suck because their archaic “must go to theaters” rule means that “Weird: the Al Yankovic Story” can’t be nominated for anything, much less nominated for every single category like it deserves to be nominated for.
The entire premise is ridiculous. Movies and art are subjectively enjoyed or not enjoyed. It's absolutely bizarre to criticise one film being nominated over another you preferred. Your preference isn't proof of anything or worth any more than anyone else's 🤷♂️
How can you champion NOPE over The Woman King or The Northman Nando?! Where's your taste, you've got it so wrong etc etc
This is a weird video, as it just comes across as "Well my picks weren't there, and things I didn't like are, so it's bad", might as well be a "THIS WAS ROBBED?!" tweet.
For me, 'Nope' not being involved is fine, but 'Decision to Leave' being absent was shocking. Doesn't mean I think the whole thing is terrible because my choice isn't there. Very strange thing coming from you Nando, usually come across pretty well, with a calm general outlook, but this... aint it.
“DO THE RIGHT THING!”
*screams in Kim Basinger*
Honestly I feel like rewatchability should be as important to film as replayability is to games, you could have the best movie of all time, a genuine perfect movie, but if it’s a slog to revisit more than once compared to a meh/good movie you could watch like twice a month it shouldn’t be the better of the two imo
So I can tell I’m in the minority here, but as someone who absolutely loved Elvis (2nd favourite movie of the year) and didn’t like nope, I’m quite happy with the Oscars this year. I loved triangle of sadness and that got great nominations. Same with EEAAO and Banshees of Inisherin. It’s very strange to have two, billion dollar movies in the best picture line up. Both of them proved themselves as solid movies that were crowd pleasers. Your musical biopic theory was probably more true a couple years ago when Rami Malek won. Now, Rocketman, Respect and I Wanna Dance with Somebody have all failed to make it in. I think Elvis was so strong in the costumes, make up and editing categories that when paired with an excellent lead performance, made it a shoe in for best picture.
Very well said. I don't know if you'll read this Nando but if you do i'd love to hear your thoughts:
Wherever you stand with what movies should gain appreciation, to me the oscars have always seemed like a fundamentally flawed idea.
I bring this up mainly because I feel it becomes more and more relevant each passing year. What makes a small group of people inside of the creatively stifling hollywood system qualified to decide what the pinnacle of film is that year? Especially when they haven't even given half of the other movies that come out a fair shake. Isn't it regressive to turn art into this competition instead of appreciating films individually for what each is trying to say?
It feels ridiculous to me to compare a dark best-friend Break up film like Banshees to a fun action movie like Everything Everywhere (Both of which are great btw). But for some reason we're expected to because of the academy.
We can certainly look at movies that have had the greatest cultural impact, but that can only really be revealed over time. An awards ceremony only looking at one year isn't going to feasibly be able to determine that.
There is the argument that the oscars provide films with acclaim. Maybe that's true to a point, but with so many other means like word of social media appreciation these days and the amount of money films make i'm struggling to see how it's worth distorting how we talk about and appreciate film.
Anyway, that's my rant for the year. If this gets read on another video I'll say hi mum!
My top 10 movies of the year hardly got anything. EEAAO was the only one in there with a best picture nom, and that was number 5. The Batman, Wakanda Forever, RRR, The Northman, Glass Onion, Bullet Train, Prey, The Menu, and of course Nope we’re all snubbed for multiple categories.
They probably considered nope a horror movie and the Oscar’s tend to overlook horror movies which is sad.
Personally I thought that they left out a lot of movies off best picture. Like Nope, Glass onion, the Batman. And a couple of others. I don’t think they should win this be nominated for best picture.
Nope is probably the biggest snub of the year for me. At least an original screenplay nomination man…
Just heard my wife mention something she heard/learned a day or two ago. But she learned that there were campaigning rules to get a movie nominated. To me this takes a lot of the value out of the show...I'd be interested if anyone can shed any validity or details about this.
Yes it is true but it’s not them paying off the Oscars. Essentially the studios release films closer to the Oscar season and then pay to promote the hell out of it aka interviews, ads, pretty much have the talent behind and in front out their foot forward and TALK about the film.
How it comes to nominations and winning, each category essentially is represented by their respective branch ie directing by the Directors Guild, etc. That group of all the top directors nominate what they believe are the best directed films. Then the people in the Academy body vote on the best in that category.
Hope that helps!
@@kevinpauly6342 , hey thanks. My wife was alluding to someone not 'campaigning' correctly so the Academy was having a meeting to go over and/or change the 'rules'. I could have completely misunderstood what she was talking about...lol, but thanks again!
the oscers really should start listening to gregg turkington; he’s called “the patch adams of film” by movie buffs, he knows how to cure this slump
lol when Isaw the trailers for Fabelmans it felt like the most Oscar Bait-y movie to ever Oscar Bait. The Oscar Baitiest.
nando bringing back one small change for the oscars lol
Nope for Nope, deal with it.
You really should watch The Fablemans, it's my frontrunner for Best Picture by a wide margin.
I am so glad Nando has an outlet for his unfiltered throughts! even though I don't agree with this one I am happy I get to hear it