Autism and IQ Scores | Can It Coexist with an Intellectual Disability?
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- Dr. Mary Barbera discusses autism and IQ scores, and whether autism can coexist with intellectual disability.
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There seems to be a lot of confusion about autism and intellectual disabilities. (An intelligence quotient (IQ) score of under 70). What does it mean if my child is diagnosed with both autism and an intellectual disability? Do I need to be seeking a diagnosis with both? Today, I'm talking all about autism and IQ scores. How we can help a child improve their cognitive abilities no matter what their age is.
In particular I would like to answer a question that came from a member of my Turn Autism Around community: How do I know if my child has an intellectual disability? They say most children with autism have intellectual disabilities. Is this true?
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0:00 Autism and IQ Scores
1:15 How to Know a Child Has an Intellectual Disability
5:25 Support for Intellectual Disability
6:14 Intellectual Disability Occurring with Autism
9:18 Importance of Self-Care Skills
11:40 Focusing Too Much on IQ
My son is 15 with high functioning autism with moderate intellectual disability. I thought I was alone in this. My husband and I are so overwhelmed and his behavior isn’t getting better. I just don’t know what to do.
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@@marybarbera oh thank you! I have been having a hard time finding a jumping off point, thank you for directing me on where to start!
Brother in law is 67 and there are some surprising incidents that indicate to me
that he may have fallen through the cracks in the system. 67 years ago things
were very different for diagnosing and helping people with different needs.
There was something that happened some months ago that made me think
brother in law is more intelligent in some areas than given credit for:
At the dinner table the family was chatting about various things and the
topic of a family issue that is unresolved and requires legal assistance.
Brother in law looked up and very clearly stated: You need to get a lawyer...
The statement was so clear and logical... it was startling. I didn't know
him very well at the time and this was revealing to me.
thanks for sharing.
I am on the spectrum my IQ at 16 was 72 I am 53 now and can cope very well with life as long as I keep my own company.
Thanks for sharing.
@@marybarbera You are welcome!
Mine is about 80 good luck.
My son was diagnosed with high functioning autism at 3 years old. He was recently diagnosed with mild ID at 17 and he’s now 18. So I’m new to learn about this.
I'm happy to have you here and learning! It's never too late to teach new skills. My intermediate course would probably be extremely helpful to you. Join a free workshop for more info: www.marybarbera.com/workshops
In the year of 2005, I was diagnosed with Asperger syndrome, but I scored about an 83 on the iq test.
My nephew is level 3 on the spectrum and was diagnosed with an intellectual disability. He is 5 years old. I appreciate you taking the time to talk about this. Thank you
Thanks for watching!
My son is 2.6 y has been diagnosed with level 3 autism does this mean he is retarded ? Can he have a normal life ?
Thank you so much for this video 😃 another great video … much appreciated!
Thanks for watching
I been diagnosed with Autism and Intellectual disability since 2015 or 2016, well my intellectual disability was reveled since 2018 or 2019. it maybe affects my delays of trying new things, I do new things a little slowly
Thanks for sharing your insight.
I enjoyed your video - the thing that concerns me is they base the IQ score on the amount of services/care etc. of the child. So the IQ score if under 70 gives your child more care from outside agencies - the importance of IQ scores is very much is important to seek out for your child otherwise services for your child will be less.
Yes, this is very true.
My daughter was about 4.5 when finally potty trained but she still has accidents when she comes from dads home because I’m in top of her, her dad isn’t. I was completely potty trained after my 5 years old.
Thanks for sharing your insights.
Austistic burdens can be mediated by finding that thing that can drive the patients to be proactive and self sustaining despite IQ. They can be intuitive beyond average or artistic to a prodigal degree. Yes it can be difficult but certainly be a blessing if you try in that aspect. Things take time. See the potential and remenber how valuable it is for autistic folk to drive their own vehicle so to speak.
Thanks for sharing.
@@marybarbera I know how taxing it can be the families of those with Non NT folk and can see why some may see it as a blessing and curse or one more than the other. Trust me that once you find that thing that compels the loved one it will be much easier. It will always be a bit demanding but less physically demanding once they find their niche. Navigation is the best approach. Instead of taking the car keys and deiving the car for them take the approach of being a voice navigation without recourse and positive reenforcement if the loved on responds to it constructively. Just be patient and know you might genuinely be blessed you just have to give it time. There are no shortcuts to any place worth going. Thanks for sharing your experience though it did give me an idea as to how parents might deal with such conditions.
Thank you so much for this video! It is so much important information! 💙
Glad it was helpful!
My uncle was diagnosed with encephalopathy and was hyperactive as a child. He is diagnose with intellectual disability, but he has other symptoms like he likes to lock doors in his house all the time, and he has echolalia and some think that he gets overwhelmed by noises, but where still trying to figure it out. Do you think that sounds like autism with a mix intellectual disability? I’m just curious if others think it may be autism too. He also walks around the house with a radio, but idk if that sounds like autism. Thanks helpful video.
Thanks for sharing. It is hard to say without knowing him but you could get a full evaluation by a psychologist.
Yes it sounds like he is autistic. But many autistic traits can appear in other conditions too
The locking the door part sounds like OCD.
I’m autistic I do not have any intelligence disability, and I have a
IQ of 84 according to the psychiatrist at my school. I was diagnosed when high functioning autism and Asperger’s was removed from the criteria of autism.
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But what do they call pervasive developmental disorder not otherwise specified now? There is a mention of that somewhere in papers filed with the SSA for me. Of course I get a copy of all of that before it is sent in. I highly recommend scanning it since paper can be lost, misplaced or destroyed by various things. I got my scanner on eBay for $50 used and it has a feeder so I don't have to do it one sheet at a time which would take ages!! Just make sure the one you choose is not listed as broken or something and that you can find drivers for it. There may be a rare case where the only driver is for an ancient version of Windows! Also how does autism relate to other things like ADD, ADHD and asperger's? I know sometimes symptoms overlap and one symptom could be a sign of multiple disorders. Really you would have to have a conversation with me to pick up on the fact that there is a mental disorder. It doesn't physically show itself except I don't always pay attention or appear to. I have a short attention span and if I met you today I may forget about you by the end of the day quite easily. I don't mean anything by it, I just might not remember you or there are things I don't always remember. I have a 98 year old grandmother who is worse off. She would forget in 5 minutes as if you never existed!
Hi does a mild interlectual disability mean that a child's mental age will be always delayed eg: at 25 he is at 15 yrs old mind set
Nobody can really predict . I know I did a podcast with a mom whose children had a mild ID and no longer does so things can always change.
@@marybarbera thank you
They said that I was 6 I was mildly mentally retarded, but I just found out that I was suffering from mdd and now I'm on medication for it. They also helped my cognitive skills as well. Maybe my depression me me look intellectually impaired
Thanks for the insight! That is really interesting.
Happy to know you are doing better, god bless you ☺️
@@airisho1568 thank you
I was tested for autism and found to be autistic +dd my iq is about 80 also became incontinent.
Very interesting. A lot of people seem confused by putting autism and ID into the same bucket. At the end of the day, IMO, it just comes down to how much support is required, right? I would have thought prior to elementary aged, the term developmental delay would have been more appropriate, and IQ in and of itself, really doesn't matter until 2nd or 3rd grade. Wouldn't the IQ scores be skewed downward on a 3 year old who is on the autism scale? Wouldn't an IQ score be skewed in some manner in a neurotypical child? I have had 4 kids, 5 grandkids, and every single kid advanced through their milestones in their own time, and turned out great. Just seems to be treading on dangerous roadways labelling a child so young. It really just seems like a child jumping on a merry go round. Most will make it, some require that nudge to make sure they get on, but once on, and "lights go on", so to speak, and soon, they are on the journey of life long learning. Thank you so much for the video. It makes a lot of sense to me!
Thank you for watching and for your insight!
I don't completely agree with you. Some children's intellectual delays are so obvious that getting an early diagnosis can be very beneficial and would mean getting more help/services sooner.
My child, for example, is 6 years old and needs help with dressing/undressing, can't be around anything that is a potential choking hazard because he still puts things in his mouth, still doesn't understand that he needs to tell me when he has to go potty even though I have been telling him to do that over and over again for a number of years now, can't play simple games designed for children 3 years and up because they go over his head, would eat crumbs off of the floor if I didn't vacuum after every meal, etc. Not to mention, needing special locks on my front door and backyard gates to prevent him from exploring the neighborhood on his own. He has no safety awareness skills, unfortunately.
With that said, my son's intellectual delay, like others like him, is so obvious that an IQ test is only going to confirm what's already understood. Unfortunately, my son has not been officially diagnosed yet, but I am in the process of trying to get him tested for it, so he can have more services available to him.
So, no, at least in my child's case, it would be very beneficial to get him diagnosed with ID (intellectual disability) a lot sooner than 2nd or 3rd grade. Heck, I couldn't even begin to tell you when he is even going to be able to reach that academic level. 🙁 I really hope he does, though.
My IQ 2018 was 79 could I have high borderline intellectual functioning???
Hi, I am from India. Here getting a proper diagnosis is very difficult. If I go to autism clinic they will diagnose him with autism, if to a psychologist he will say something else. Is there any tool where I can tell where I can check whats my sons diagnosis is? He is 8 now.
other than getting a professional to run an ados test there is not.
I want to know anout intellectual disability, autism and PDA ? HOW do we support this path. Carer for a 40 yr old
My daughter isn't capable of asking due to ID. I so want to support her with her supports but I need to understand because she can't tell me.
My daughter was diagnosed at 13 months with developmental delay and then at 16 with autism. At 40 I think she also has PDA
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I’m 22 and have Asperger’s syndrome now known as high functioning autism level 1 and have an iq of 160 and I’ve always was a fast learner in school now I’m off to college for cybersecurity. want to get my PhD through the cybersecurity route at some point once I get all my other degrees for cybersecurity. Anything is possible as long everyone sets there mind to do anything
Our daughter is 27, Autistic and has an IQ of 50-55.
She doesn't like talking about her problems and refuses services as she thinks that she doesn't have any issues. So, since she refuses services, our local mental health refuses also. They said even though we think she needs help, she is their client and they have to respect her wishes. I'm like, are you serious? So no help, no respite. What do we do now? We have full guardianship.
We have went to counseling as her parents to help us deal with some issues, but she really needs the help
Any advice is appreciated!
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@@marybarbera thank you!!!
I'm willing to try anything at this point!
Mam my son age
2 year 10 months he recently diagnosis mild autism his IQ above average did he live normal life can he recover mam pls answer
at 2 years old nobody has a crystal ball but my online courses can help you learn how to teach him. Here is a free workshop www.marybarbera.com/workshops
You can't recover from Autism as you don't have too. Autism is another type of brain and all you need to do for an Autistic person is to understand Autism, not cure it and it is not a disease. Autistic people need support as they struggle with things and I recommend researching on Autism
My daughter was just diagnosed today with autism as well as intellectual disability .She’s is 18 months old nonverbal do you think she can be diagnosed with intellectual disability this young she is way behind on her milestones.
It is extremely young to give that diagnosis. Things can change and you can help her! go to marybarbera.com/workshops to learn about my online courses so you can help her at home today.
At 18 months, it is definitely too young and I’m not sure why parents are pushed to diagnosed children as early as one.
My daughter who is 13 has low iq and moderate autism she has been having services since the age of two and still no real great progress Can a intellectual disability be reversed?
I have heard of situations where it gets reversed but ultimately, regardless of IQ and if the ID diagnosis remains, you can continue to make progress. I talk more about this in my online courses. Check out a free workshop www.marybarbera.com/workshops
What can I do at home to help him, bcoz Indian govt don't provide any aid to special kids. The therapy here is very expensive. I really feel my son has intellectual disability. I am not worried about studies but his cognitive ability is low.
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In 2016 I had a diagnosis from a mental health center of intellectual disability and then I don't know if I have any ASD at this time because I'm having a thorough testing season 4 hours psychological testing at a neurologist office November 30th at 11:00 a.m. I will get the results December 14th on a Wednesday also at 11:00 a.m. I do have Medicaid waiver services they caregivers boss of caregivers behavior specialist case manager a friend of mine mentioned Indiana governor's council for people with disabilities but I haven't heard anything back from them email or by phone also my behavior specialist told me tonight and I should look into self-advocacy groups I did find online groups to them as well as a group near me in Merrillville Indiana as I am in the Hammond Indiana I'm 65 years old as of July 10th and I have two younger sisters loving and supportive would it be possible for me to have both idd and ASD??? I am the person that bounces my knees up and down and taps my fingers what you describe as stimming thanks for all your information Mary I will keep watching you a videos 🥰🥰🥰💖💖💖
I also had a diagnosis of 85 couldn't have been borderline intellectual functioning also
Tell me about intellectual disability and autism comorbidity rate in Asian children .
How serendipitous, my I dare add fortuitously enlightened words of wisdom. Personally really appreciate your thoughts on this subject. Especially considering how long struggling.
Was put on the spectrum last year by my own recognizance!
And of course I could never have been able too without the support of my parents. So, as the songs 🎵 go!Lean on me n Stand by me 🎵 it’s not livin’ if you don’t have extreme adversity in multiple aspects.
But I don’t care 🤷♂️ That’s life, I.gotta be me, and i’s am’s who i’s am’s! Frank Sinatra Sammy Davis Jr and Popeye! ♾️🌈🦄🏳️🌈❤❤❤❤
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I always had a very high iq on tests😊
The psychiatrist gave my daughter unfair IQ test…She only asked 3 questions and that’s it…🥲🥲🥲🥲 She could of asked her questions in sign language or use letter blocks for her to answer questions…
The School said my Son's IQ is 70, he is Autistic. However I don't believe that. He is very intelligent. He can crack codes to the refrigerator. If he applies himself, there isn't anything he can't do. If he isn't interested in something, he apllies zero effort. So I am not sure how the School was even able to get an accurate IQ test
Sounds difficult. I hope you can join a workshop today and be part of our online community where you can get support. marybarbera.com/workshops/
Your son is definitely NOT unintelligent .
Genuinely successful people are not plugged into the system and they don’t blindly follow directions for the sake of following directions.
They go their own way and engage in selective learning all of the time.
The school system is just designed to make compliant, tax paying 9-5 employees out of children who become the average person earning 50K/year in the midst of inflation. This system has no interest in helping your child become the best possible version of him/herself.
Get your son out of the school system if you can and turn to a system called “unschooling” to tap into his own unique, hidden talents. He will thrive and flourish.
What if my IQ is 93?
Is intellectual disability and mental retardation is same
Yes