N&W's Defiance-Napoleon, OH local-ca. 1988
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- Опубликовано: 30 дек 2016
- Into the late 1980s, N&W/NS operated a local freight from Defiance, OH to Napoleon, Ohio over former-Wabash trackage. The local switched industries in Defiance before leaving town. Traffic on the local included covered hoppers for local elevators, and reefers of tomato paste for the cold storage warehouses in Napoleon (ultimately destined for the Campbell Soup Company plant there).
In 1989 operation of this line was passed to Indiana Hi-Rail Corporation, and since then there have been several operators.
Railfan Doug Leffler from Jackson, Michigan filmed the local on a winter day. His video shows the local's crew going on duty, switching in Defiance, moving through small towns east of Defiance, and running around the train and crossing the DT&I diamond in Napoleon as the train backs out to the cold storage warehouses.
This capture is from his (VHS) video, and is used with permission.
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what a treasure this is to have been recorded when it was still class 1 railroad
Wonderful view of what is now considered old school railroading. 3 man crew on a local, pulling the pin on a moving caboose, ( well heck, a Caboose!) lots of hand signals, not a peck of reflective gear. Great stuff!
more like 5 guys...i think there was 4 here...the conductor was always in the cab of the locomotive doing paper work.
thank you very much Mr Doug leffler. many will get to enjoy this work of art. just like a family movie with everyone. love it!
Just subbed, great view of the past! Can't wait to watch the whole video
Even back then, the track on that line was deplorable! Then again, the ground underneath was soft and mushy.
Under the N&W, this line was called the Maumee District, running Between Toledo and East Wayne, part of the Fort Wayne Division.
Pre Graffiti days. Love it.
Great to have this preserved in video.
1988. That's the winter i remember that there was very little snow and that summer was a record in the books for being the hottest, driest, summer we have had..
just a few short years earlier, this train would have GP 7/9/18.
by this late date the old Geeps were gone.
I was very lucky to have seen the N&W geeps go by my home when i was a kid.
@jeffry McFadden - My grandparents lived in Defiance. As a boy of 7 , in the late '50's , I remember seeing Wabash HH660 #100 in the yard in Defiance. Later, after 1964 N&W take over, a Wabash Alco DL 701, and Wabash S-2
#2.
Did anyone pay attention to the numbers on the caboose? 555 007. It's James Bond's caboose! lol
1303 was ordered by the Wabash just prior to the merger hence no dynamic brakes and Leslie S-3L horn.
Wunderbares Video, danke! ;)
Saw this train out of East Wayne Yd many a Saturday morning back in the early 70's when the then fledgling FWRHS was located on the siding leading to
Casad Depot. Track wasnt in too bad a shape at that time.
And to think, for years after its sale this line was a shambling mess.
You know what happened to this rail line after the N&W
It's interesting to see how much worse the tracks got since then. Thanks for sharing
Didn't go all the way thru till 1990 they was ran as separate railroads pending merger
It's sad to think about how bad it got.
N&W For me awesome there was something magical about that trip up and down the railroad tracks in an engine. N&W rule.
The names have changed but the game remains the same. Thanks for sharing.
NS19K wonder if the track was as bad back then as it is now?
Oh it got WORSE past this point in time. Pioneer Rail Corp purchased the line in 2013, and are taking small steps improving the line.
Was this gp35 rebuilt with 645 power assemblies and remained with its 567D3A engine
was the the 5th diss. Wabash line if is holy shit times have changed
Awesome! I have never seen footage of the 5th District during N&W times. The tracks were in reasonable shape then. Was the DT&I still being used to Napolean? Was the N&W still intact all the way to Toledo?
The line to Toledo was still intact at the time, but not used beyond Liberty Center. The DT&I/GTW line to Napoleon was abandoned in 1984.
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So the Dt&I was abandoned 4 years earlier but was still intact with the diamond?
@@HOTRAILProductions My memory is foggy, but I believe just the diamond and the signal system remained, with the ex-DT&I track gone. It may have been a cost factor-the cost of ripping out the interlocking vs. just leaving it there.
@@MacowiecPL was the DT&I line you're referring to the same line that went to XN tower and south to Lima?
cool vid... am I missing something or are these guys not using radios... strange, that it's 1988 and no radios
Yep, many veteran crews at that time still used hand signals more often than a radio. Radios were still viewed by them as just another tool, a convenience. Not the necessity they are now.
I assume that all of the refrigerated boxcar traffic is now truck load freight?
I think it still goes by rail. Cold storage places in Napoleun....
The tracks werent all bent back then
hand signal. That's cool.
That’s when pooky and mook still to that on over in there with it for then. We used to stay at Gary’s there and wait when they got to go on for it ya know? Then we chased them squirrels on for it.
Wow! The track was bad back then!
What is wrong with 1303’s horn
I mean a the beginning
Cold probably
It was freezing cold , even the horn was frigid
Did anybody think to mention that 1303 had no FRA
mandatory ditch lights back in 1988 ?
They weren't mandated till the mid 90's so not yet.
This is years after the merger of both Southern and Norfolk & Western, to form the Norfolk Southern Railroad!
I have a question in what year did it stop being the norfolk and western to be what it is known today?
@@johanaperezmolina December 31 1990 Norfolk an western an The. Southern railway were transferred over to the new Norfolk southern holding company to form one rail road it had been run as two sepr!te railroads from 1982 til 1990 but under control of Norfolk southern
@@brianbooher7318 thanks for the information, what happened to the southern route saluda grade
@@johanaperezmolina to expensive to maintain an operate pwhen they had routes just up the road that was another better safer an easier to maintain.samethung with the peaking Cincinnati district line in Ohio it was shut down cause same problems an their is a bridge at the end that needs replaced so they just shut it down
@@brianbooher7318 oh :o
So weird how u could just smoke at a place of business...I always wondered how this operated
People weren’t delicate wimps back then.
@@MFXdump true but I smoke myself n honestly if I didn't smoke I wouldn't wanna be in a smoked filled room lol but people r pansies 😂
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That’s probably how I ended up a smoker. Parents taking us around in the car, smoking with the windows up “because it’s cold!” Rolll the window back up! Lol!
@@MFXdump I always hated smelling like smoke but yet when I walked to school I'd smoke 😂 makes sense 🤷🏼♂️😆
Wait, I thought the N&W merged with Southern to form Norfolk Southern in 1982.
Merger did not go through until 1990 they was running separate railroad till then by the same people
@@brianbooher7318 The N&W was merged into NS on September 1, 1998 per the N&W Historical Society and the Virginia State Corporation Commission. Until then, the N&W still existed as a corporation and an operating subsidiary of Norfolk Southern.
@@UP9390 according to the historic registry in Bristol Tennessee emerged in 1990 December 31st 1990 I'm not saying you're wrong I'm just saying what it says
@@UP9390 Right before Conrail split
Ain’t much changed.
Is this the same railroad that 30 years later is unbelievably rough track in video?
Yes..its the one where you see telephoto shots and youre just waiting to roll a rail, and a Unit. Lived in Antwerp, ohio and yes time has not been kind to this line. Line pulled further east..think east of napoleon or maybe just west of it. Line defiance to east FTW still has some moves.
@@creggf4685 It was pulled between Liberty Center and Napoleon.
@@jerrybutler605 thank you. Was trying to remember where I saw the direct mound at,, as drove 24 from Detroit to ftw