The guys from South Park said it best. Either everyone can be made fun of, or no one can. And it’s when someone starts dictating who can be made fun of that true bigotry begins.
But do you really, honestly think that is the issue? Because I think you might be missing out. What people always seem to neglect is the relationship between who is making fun of who. And also the intent. Racist jokes aren't bad. Racist jokes from people that every one knows is a racist c*nt.....those are bad.
John Cleese and Rob Schneider is the pairing I would have NEVER expected in my entire lifetime, yet, I don't mind it at all while after having watched this.
Wokeism is rooted in Marxism. Just read “Animal farm" and see how they slowly change the laws on the wall . They are slowly and constantly changing the language so you can not get a handle on it. Also re-read “1984”, they re-wright history so they can force the discussion to be only from their perspective. And of course they have their regular hour of rage as well. It’s also in “1984”
It's sure to be cancelled. Wasting their "platforms" to spread the idea that people should be listening to each other? What fascism! What bigotry! And doing it so calmly! It's all Trump's fault! Let's stick to the plan here!: Virtue-signaling lectures, slanderous name-calling and vile threats is how it's done! There's a planet to be saved!
Rob Schneider is a human garbage pail kid!!! Except, not funny whatsoever!! His new show should be shown to kids in detention after school on the path to not take in life !!
This was honestly a mind blowing moment for me and the moment I truly realised these sorts of comedian are some of the brightest damn minds out there. The core of who they are is conversation and making observations on the world and it's taken me 30 fucking 1 years to realise this is a sign of true intelligence and humanism.
Not just that, they can't conceive of someone NOT doing that. Those types of people don't actually believe you can be that good because they can't. It just doesn't compute to them.
usually it is because people have seen the type of behaviour before and that probably lead to physical violence or something else unpleasent. It's weird to asume that people are offended because they are shitty people. When it's obvious and pretty common knowledge that people are cautious for reasons like past experience and trauma. It's crazy to think that we live in a time where grown ups and adults have to be forced by law to treat other people with respect. Hatecrime laws are being expanded and enforced in most of the world right now. Because people who pay taxes and vote are incapable of treating other people with respect. I don't see how this makes any sense??? you aren't capable of treating others with common respect. Then wtf are you able to vote ?
“Political correctness is America's newest form of intolerance, and it is especially pernicious because it comes disguised as tolerance. It presents itself as fairness, yet attempts to restrict and control people's language with strict codes and rigid rules. I'm not sure that's the way to fight discrimination. I'm not sure silencing people or forcing them to alter their speech is the best method for solving problems that go much deeper than speech.” -George Carlin
People have been fighting political correctness for a long, long time and woke is just taking political correctness to an extreme. People have known about the problem for decades, but didn't have the social media platforms to fight back. Now they do and are clearly winning this battle.
I so miss him. I loved the way he unapologetically put things. Yes, he made it laughable, and he kept the truth in it. People with thin skin get shaving cuts just looking at razors.
It is like the biggest losers got together and decided to build a society according to their believes. They are doing well so far, but how pathetic it is...
I work with a Hispanic guy I’ve known for years, and we joke with each other all the time. Yesterday he asked me what it’s like being a gringo. He said it must be the best thing ever, and we just laughed. We crack jokes because we love each other and it is our way of showing affection.
@@hulkhatepunybanner No! Somebody may or may not have made something up online?!? While it may or may not be true, *I* have friends that i joke about with things that are not PC. But you won't believe that either, i bet.
In a normal democratic society you HAVE to be able to make fun of, and joke about ANYTHING. When you start imposing self-censorship that's when you have lost.
What is your definition of self-censorship? I’ve always thought of it as your own decision to not use curse words in your speech, or choosing not to go see Saw IV because you don’t like gore. Not that you’re trying to censor other people. My definition of self-censorship I think is perfectly healthy. You should not have to be exposed to something you don’t want to see (in terms of entertainment). But it’s your responsibility to do so. SELF-Censorship. I absolutely despise censorship, but I also believe people should be responsible enough to make their own decisions on what media they consume.
I'd spent nearly 30 years in the US Military and your discussion at the end really speaks to me. Most people who've served have that kind of regard for their good friends. They'll insult them to their face and support them to their dying breath behind their back. You don't see that outside of the ranks very often and I love that it is something that you guys get.
"Pay a few good men for aiming a gun when we tell them to. And the rest will have to do as we say when the guns are pointed at them." The elitists of the western new world order.
Anyone remember Rob's film "The Animal" where the black guy gets really annoyed because no matter what he does everyone is afraid to speak up because it would presumably be racist? Talk about an accurate prediction 😂
The same thing has happened with feminism. What seems to have started off as a fight for equal rights and pay has turned into one side of the population saying things like chivalry is dead, while the other bemoans mansplaining and proclaims that men aren't actually needed in society anymore. I'm afraid to offer my help to anyone I see struggling these days lest I be berated for assuming a woman is incapable.
To be entirely honest: that has to be incredibly frustrating for many people. The idea that people are always putting on some show of the character they decide to be when talking to others with immutable characteristics, instead of just keeping it 100-ish (maybe like 95% lol?) I have limited experience with that, yet I do kinda know how that feels in a roundabout way...and society is definitely encouraging it via social media narcissism, identity politics machinations and virtue signaling. Thankfully, offline, that concept is less prevalent. That is almost the origin of the "go touch grass" meme to a degree. And people often forgive the faux pas false steps of people just speaking more freely (within reason, and in good faith of course). The internet...less so.
@@seanlaverty40I'm not incapable, but sometimes I appreciate the help. Don't let these delusional children sway what's innate to you. Every last one of them is headed for a brick wall or a bottomless pit...get your popcorn ready. Mini rant over. Lol
Random video pushed to my feed but thoroughly enjoyed it... what relaxed, witty and intelligent chat between two friends talking about topical issues. It's like a breath of fresh air these days!
I keep getting these random videos also, very strange, vids on religion, trans issues, google will you just leave me alone and stop "forcing it" down my throat?
That was so nice to see. Such a shame that when i see 2 normal people saying normal things, i feel gratitude. Take me back to the time when this conversation didn't need to happen
Having a sense of humor is not thinking something is funny, a sense of humor is knowing when someone is joking and adjusting your own reaction accordingly 👌👌
Dead on accurate! It’s not about agreeing with everyone, but recognizing there is always room to pick on either side of issues! Just be funny and humorous, don’t preach political ideology!
Too much "humor" has been generated at the expense of others, which leads to biases/attitudes that reflect REAL social policy. Your ignorance of this FACT is astounding.
@@Geezer-yf8hv I'm gonna keep preaching political ideology because I live in a democracy and it's an essential part of it. I'm also not gonna laugh at your jokes because it's funny watching old men act like snowflakes when nobody likes their joke.
The year of 2024 just started a month and half ago, and that fact is already the best thing that happened to you in the current year, mate? (let's hope not 😉)
Brilliant! Thank you for addressing this topic. We are in dire straits for these kind of conversations in a wider perspective in society today. Thank you.
Am I the only one who immediately heard "Walk of Life" as soon as I read "dire straits"? In spite of my favorite song of theirs being "Money for Nothing".
John Cleese nailed it. "Affectionate teasing." I grew up in the "A Pollak, a Jew, and a Black guy walked into a bar....." age. And the Polish, Jewish, and Black guys all laughed at the punchline. Years ago, people were allowed to tease each other. In today's age, one "offensive" word or phrase sparks an outrage because they can blast their misplaced anger world-wide over the internet. So which age was actually more "Together" as a society?
You have to admit This "age" is completely laughable The internet was supposed to bring the world together. To some degree it has And to some degree it's driven division. Glad I've for the most part disconnected from it.
And its not just the left doing this. Trying criticizing Isreal and watch how all those on the right that are supposedly free speech absolutists switch tunes and start crying prejudice, and for cancel culture. This a-la-carte moral standards practiced by large segment of both left and right alike is one reason I became an independent.
Wow I have always been a huge fan of John Cleese and absolutely love him, but I never realized how wise and cool Rob Schneider was. I agree 100% with both of them and I wish I could have sat at that table and been a part of their wonderful conversation. This video clip brought a smile on my face, thank you.
Not to be sexist (please don't cancel me - ah, who gives a shit) but this is mostly a man thing. Women tend not to use insult comedy against each other. They target themselves. Men go right in there. They greet each other with "Oi! Terry you wanker!" or "Fuck me Steve, you're a fat bastard these days! Where's the wife did you eat her for breakfast? And not in a good way! Ha ha ha ha ha!". "Got to say Mike, you look like shit! So you've tidied up then!".
It's much like socialism which the Left tries to tell us is "just sharing". No it's actually theft of your property to be redistributed as the government sees fit.
@@V.C.S69 you don't know the difference or you wouldn't have used the wrong word.. theres no such saying as "ears dropping." just admit you didn't know the correct phrase and move on. saying you CHOSE to say it incorrectly makes you sound dumber than just admitting you made a mistake.
Even though I am not really sure about GB news, This programme, the more I see it, is so Python, so common sense. And Rob Schneider just perfectly sums up the woke agenda.
Your friends will complement you. Your enemies will insult you. Your best friends will insult you in ways that would shock your enemies. Your worst enemies will give you the sweetest sounding complements.
Wokes vs Cons is a game where being better at it makes you worse. From raging because someone knelt during the anthem in peaceful protest, to calling everything and everyone racist, the extremists on both sides are the least productive people to communicate with.
@@itoibo4208except the kneeling during the anthem thing is literally born out of the "everything is racist" ideology. It's pretty easy at this point to see which side is acting in good faith. The C19, Floyd, Rittenhouse, and Jan 6 tapes say it all...hard evidence was ignored to the point of dragging out farcical trials and media coverage for years. It's been wild to watch...
What John Cleese said at the end is so true. Friends can ridicule each other. This was the basis of the Roasts that Dean Martin used to host. They all loved each other and they roasted each other. In Australia, they tried this once but their humour was very rude and insulting to the guest person and it never landed right. It was canned after 1 episode. The insults were too personal and not from a place of friendship.
Australians are known to save some of the most crass disgusting insults for their mates. A roast can definitely work here but there is no point using American humour for the same reason that Australian comedy shows don't do well as US remakes. To say they “tried it once” doesn't say whether they tried it well or not, it might have been “once” and poorly done.
@@jacobpaint lets face it if we used their logic.. most of us would be celibate our whole lives "tried that one time. wasnt good. didnt bother trying again" human race would die out in a few generations you are 100% spot on if theyd done it the Australian way it would have worked for you guys.
I was slow on the uptake about friends roasting each other. When I realized the level of trust demonstrated in a good ribbing between friends, I came to cherish those moments when my friends and I poke fun at each other.
One of the funniest movies is Blazing saddles. It was funny because it made fun of everyone. Just thinking about it makes me want to see it. Too bad making fun of people is not allowed anymore. Ahh the good old days.
all the racist jokes in that movie were written by richard prior ( a black US comedian for those outside the USA who dont know) it was funny because it made FUN of ignorance and racism in US history it pointed out how we were ALL dumb AF racist or ignorant to some degree in those days
Blazing Saddles followed a trend that Mel Brooks was so good at. He pushed the boundaries in order to take down the people on the wrong side of history. Look at The Producers where they have a musical production that tries to glorify Hitler with songs like "Springtime For Hitler". To Be Or Not To Be was another pop at Hitler with that fantastic spoof song of the same name. As a Jewish producer, writer and performer people couldn't accuse him of being anti-semitic (boy has that changed these days). Nor could they lambast him for running around in a Nazi uniform (not like they could today at least). But he was following the grand tradition engaged in by Charlie Chaplin of ridiculing the ridiculous. Chaplin of course had a pop at Hitler. So did George Formby whose character actually punches Hitler in the chops. Cartoons galore did the same. But in an attempt to silence the dissenters the Right (and it IS mostly the Right) have made it verboten to talk about certain things in jest because you must be serious and it must be offensive. Especially if you're attacking the establishment. This isn't new. This has been going on for millenia.
I'm pretty sure that John Cleese is not best known for playing warm characters or indeed for being a warm person - even the other Pythons seemed to think that
Sure, but it's not really about offence. It's possible to say something racist, sexist or ableist without meaning to. That's not a terrible thing as long as we can apologise and learn.
@@vehicledestroyerNo the issues is… is e.g. that there are sides to begin with . That won’t be the case some day in “The World To Come” 🕍 🇮🇱 but that’s a metaphysical thing and another conversation entirely.
that's projection from comedians with their feelings hurt. They got called out for not being funny when they did disrespectful "jokes". So now they want to throw dirt. While desperately trying to make it casual. Like what is this setup ? like John Cheese and Rob snaildier just randomly met eachother at a comedy club for fancy pants and sat down to have a sip of water and whiskey while talking about the probelm with woke people in their audience ? This is so staged and paid for by desperat conservatives and these two gentlemen could'n care less about taking their money for this job because they know that the people they are "targeting" understands business and understands that this changes nothing. As it's too obvious and people won't take it seriously. Well. At least not people who didn't already have a screw lose in their bigoted "brains".
You guys are absolutely AWESOME !!! I'm 58, and I grew up watching and enjoying both of you as comedians, and mentors... Both of you speak the truth, you both have been "around the block" a few times, when most people don't even make it to the first corner. Thank you for standing up and speaking about how things were back in the day, and how everything has been highjacked by narcissistic pyschopaths... Cheers guys, Thank you both😂😂😂
Hi Greg! 👋🇦🇺 I’m 52, I agree!! We were lucky to have grown up in a very happy, fun filled time!! Goodness me it’s HARD to find good, funny shows & movies these days!! 💕🇦🇺💃
When people look at the past through rose coloured glasses they are looking at an alternative reality that never existed. Have they forgotten Lenny Bruce? This was a million years before the word Woke was ever coined as a phrase. He used adult words in his stand up act and police would wait in the nightclub ready to pounce on him as soon as he said a banned word. So, he used "Blah" to replace all words that were banned. But, the grown up and intelligent audience knew what the word "Blah" represented. So the authorities had him arrested for saying "Blah" in his act because it put an 'unacceptable thought' in the minds of the people watching. For example, he would ask a female member of the audience: "Have you ever Blahed a man's Blah?". The woman and the audience knew what he was inferring but he never actually said it. Yet, he was arrested. So please don't pretend that this is something new that was invented by the Left. This was a branch of McCarthyism instigated by the Right way before the Wokeism blamed on the Left was a twinkle in an oppressed minority's eye.
@@trevorberridge6079 This one does history. Still, just shows it's ALL the olds being pathetic, bored, scared and doing something in the last couple since their lives did not in fact amount to what they envisioned.
@@trevorberridge6079 So, it's been a problem, from the US, for much longer than I was aware of. The Western world is crumbling because of a mental disease, that has the USA as patient zero.
@@trevorberridge6079 Your patronizing dismissive and misapplied opening sentence reflects an overly emotional response from you, and much more telling than you had likely told yourself. Lenny Bruce was a both a different era and a vastly different case than these guys' considerable experience, get your stories straight. He was also a long time drug addict and alleged fraudster, who had one conviction for an obscenity charge - offensive words, just like hate speech. Folks are getting arrested and jailed for that once again.. And McCarthyism was long before them as well, and ironically pales in comparison to today's repeat of it.. Cleese clearly states that the "righteously offended" in his time tended to consider themselves on the political "right" (his term, not mine) while today the "righteously offended" consider themselves on the political "left" (again, their term). But in his time nobody was getting arrested - on the contrary, it's popularity was ubiquitous and completely free. They had truly progressed much further by then.. until now. Their entire convo and point is the freedom of speech and ideas from tyranny and its inevitable oppression. Whether that tyranny cloaks itself in the "right" or the "left" is immaterial, save for the use of those manufactured "group" dividers to keep you emotionally toeing the line.. not unlike any other gangs. Sounds like you've got yourself hooked.
Monty Python was way ahead of its time. They saw all this coming. Especially their skit on "I want to be a woman". His fellows answered, "You can't be a woman, you're a man". Then comes, "But I want to have a baby".
have you looked up transplants for that though ? science is amazing. But the human body is even more amazing. Science would'n be possible if the human body didn't allow it. Trans people are valid and should not be treated like dirt. When you have a pile of rocks. Do you also just throw your gems into that pile and say "a rock is a rock" ?
One of the most intelligent conversations I've watched on a screen in a long time. Refreshing. Thanks for bringing some sanity back to our lives you two.
@@HeronPoint2021 Yes lots of old Comedies. No new ones. It's gone so woke, everyone is scared to make them anymore. Still waiting on 'Marty' to name one.
Yes, Rob has an impressive catalogue, from a redneck whose only line is "you can do it" to a Chinese stereotype in an Adam Sandler movie. A real Daniel Day-Lewis.
@@RobulousDeecry harder that your insensitivity’s were injured. Or you are to much of a ignorant pos to be aware of the rest of his career and his place in the stand up community.
You are whats wrong with the world today not realizing these people are just actors playing a part. They are actors, they act out a part and do very well. Acting is completely fake and you can no longer tell the difference. As far as people like you are concerned, how it sounds if far more important than the actual message to the point you don't even listen to their message.
The difference is that even if a very few on the Right are offended, they don't demand that anyone be canceled. On the other hand, there are MANY on the Left who are constantly offended and who demand that the offenders be CANCELED!
well, back in the day that is exactly what they did, it was just nowhere near as big a scale or got as much attention as it does now because obviously they didn't have social media lol. That's what makes modern cancel culture so funny, it's gone full circle and we're back to trying to cancel artists for their art.
Remember Bill Clinton? The most fiscally conservative president since Reagan, and they wanted to cancel him for consensual relationships. Consevatives of the day: "if he is willing to lie about this to his wife and to america, what else will he do?" Then they vote for Trump. **shrugs**
kinda like i heard Max Headroom say once. "Politeness is just the most accepted form of Hypocrisy." Wokeness IS blatant hypocrisy in almost every form. Its such fake virtue, it's cringeworthy. Which leads me to another great Max quote. "Those that can, DO! Those that can't, CENSORE!"
If politeness is hypocrisy then they are right to reject it and pursue justice instead. I hope they continue being aggressive because old men will bully and lie to get what they want, so bullying and telling the truth to achieve a bit of fairness is far better. Two old men whining about why they're no longer liked, it's pathetic and anyone angry at university students when they're primarily children still working the world out is a pathetic loser of an old man or somebody who sticks their nose way up old people ass.
woke adjective (informal, often disapproving) aware of social and political issues, especially racism. Oxford English Dictionary. Now tell me, how is this hypocritical? We all are woke.
That's a really meaningless quote lol do you really think Max Headroom wasn't just trolling? The fact you find that profound is hilarious and I'm sure he would have laughed at you
@@michaelparker3709 I think it's just that the people who organized it are of an older generation and have a different idea of entertainment from me, and that is fine.
"Victimhood" is used to elicit sympathy and full compliance. When I was younger, we would refer to it as guilt-tripping, or just manipulation, because the goal is to make you feel ashamed and fully submit.
This is a derivative of an old George Carlin quote: “Political Correctness is fascism disguised as manners.” That being said, still incredibly insightful to this day.
George Carlin was intelligent and hilarious because he made you think bout the social norms at the time. Sadly, he became bitter in his later years of stand up and because of that, I found it difficult to appreciate his routine RIP George and thank you for making me think 👍👍
100% accurate. Nothing should be outside of joking, or criticism. The more offended they are by what you're making fun of, THE MORE IT NEEDS TO BE MADE FUN OF! And probably NEEDS to be made fun of!
Well said, carnist. That is exactly why we say oatmilk over and over when you melt down because a vegan walked in the room. WE MUST make fun of you and your very fragile position. It's the american way.
So does that mean the kids who bullied me in school for my lazy eye were right to bully me because I was offended by it? My eye NEEDED to be made fun of? It makes sense that people like you feel drawn to the rhetoric in the video. There is a difference between classy humor and just being a dick.
@@chrisking6695 Yeah, probably. Life sucks and people can be mean - if someone's a dick move along and get over it, don't ban them from speaking or get them fired. That's just fucking pathetic.
@@Timic83tcI think he got caught up in the Trump hysteria. Sometimes it’s hard to see things clearly, when you’re immersed in a group of people that are constantly spouting the same ideology. I think it took him a moment to really see it for what it was and is. Epiphanies do happen.
@@Timic83tc 🤣😂 I do remember them, and it was definitely a 180 from this position. I think he finally saw the media hypocrisy, and was called out for a reasonable response to what’s going on in the world right now. Once he was on the other side of the intolerance, he had clarity of the BS being slung on any decenter of the ideology.
Don't believe the hype and the sterotypes. People are not all hive minded. Young people actually tend to be more progressive. It's the old farts that control Universities that have laid down the rules that students have to abide by. Some young people are also being politicised by the Right in order to shut down discourse. There's a lot of "Hitler's Playbook" shit going down in the world right now.
Oh look at the old just in this little circle jerk spouting off the same thing their parents did, their grandparents did, their grand grandparents did, and so on and so forth. Watching you guys turn into your parents is expected, predictable and kind of sad. Glad to see the youngers aren't using bitter as a crutch. ;)
Yet a recent poll said if the election was held today Trump would defeat Biden among young people. Who would’ve thought young people would vote for Archie Bunker? No me…
That's unfair. Young people have ALWAYS been idealistic. They're just finding their way. The only difference now is that ideas spread from one side of the planet to the other in an instant due to the internet. The internet has been a catalyst for the amplification of misguided or bad ideas for that generation. I kind of feel bad for them. Must really suck being amongst such information overload.
I would say again, brilliant! it is inspiring to see two comedians of that level analyzing so thoroughly a form of control installed so efficiently. On the other hand, Schneider, what a wonderful person, so brilliant and so humble at the same time.
I LOVE Rob Schneider. But, you're wrong. He is great in the movies and cameos he does. He adds a lot, he really does. BUT, he is NOT overqualified and he was not underused.
Ask any genX and they will tell you back in the day the way you bond with your friends is to give them shit. You would never waste time teasing someone you didn't like.
@edwardmitchell6581 human fragility, disrespect, and a false sense of entitlement.. because they expect everyone to think and talk like them. Every missed pronoun is somehow a direct attack and we should all know better so that we are "inclusive". What a crock.
The first thing to go under Communism is free expression which includes not just words, but art in any form (including comedy) which flies in the face of the collectivist narrative.
Yes! A light just illuminated the truth...it's communism. It's the thin edge of the wedge. And of course, many leftists secretly admire Marxist ideology (some not so secretly)
Same thing happens in Fascism to be fair. As well as many other forms of authoritarianism. People do forget though: fascismo basically developed from marxism. Like, almost a direct line of cause and effect + individuals with power.
@@py_a_thon Fascism developed directly from Socialism, but not Marxism. Communism largely grew from the Marxist socialists, while Fascism was more directly influenced by the French nationalists (with their usual monarchist sentiments removed). Marx was only one of many socialist writers, with several different groups within socialism focused on other writers. Essentially the Italian socialists of the early 20th century were pacifist (at least so far as joining WWI went), while the typically younger socialists felt that WWI would destroy the existing monarchies/empires and kick off a socialist revolution. So many prominent pro-war socialists broke away, starting the Italian Fascism party and supported the war to help destroy the existing system. And they were indeed largely correct about the war destroying the monarchies, but their socialist revolution only ever really kicked off in Russia and was far more influenced by the Marxists. It's somewhat ironic (and probably intentionally misleading) that Fascism is so often portrayed as right wing in modern media since at least the 1940s, when fascism was always very anti-monarchist and Right/Left comes specifically from the French Revolution, with the right wing very clearly the monarchist side.
I still remember the first time I saw Sam K. in Back to School. I cried laughing at his scenes and still quote them to this day. That was my intro to his comedy.
When John Cleese speaks, you don't get up and leave the room! What kind of person does that? You'd have to be infinitely stupid and ignorant to do that. He's a national treasure, he's insanely funny, and he has so much wisdom and knowledge to pass on. I said it before and I say it again: The younger generations weren't raised on Monty Python, Mel Brooks, and George Carlin and it shows.
What kind of person? Well some adjectives that come to mind: Sanctimonious, Humorless, Haters of Humanity, Dullards, Insufferable Cry Babies and in general, Children who never had an original thought in their lives.
Great discussion! Rob is so right. Their being offended about so many things simply grows out of a deep, unshakable self-righteousness. And that means they have a Holy Cause, with which they are justified in tyrannizing all who disagree. Also, it's ruined their sense of humor, perverted what's left into a *nasty teasing*, as John says. Aaarrrggghhh! What can you do with people like that?
@@NathanielHellerstein Oh yes, but I'm not a comedian like Schreiber or Cleese (who is a veteran and quite a comic-philosopher). NO one likes being mocked for their beliefs if they're fanatical about them.
@@trevorberridge6079 Welll, exactamundo! Ditto my reply to user-tp7gy4dj4l. However, as an addendum, I don't think they'll learn manners from it. They just seem to go batsh*t.
@@trevorberridge6079if you have payed any attention to any of this you would realize that’s both sides at this point. But get in your little none jab so people can realize how ignorant you are.
Is anyone else confused that GB News canceled Dan Wonton and Calvin and Lawrence Fox. Over some Woke nonsense but is fine hosting the dinosaur hour? I love the dinosaur hour by the way
Rob Schneider is absolutely amazing and always has been. also: Your format is awesome. I love that you made it feel like two dudes chatting at a coffee shop--well done.
John Cleese mentioning how in the old days you offended the right, and now you offend the left, reminded me of how baffling it was for me seeing strict censorship move from being right-leaning, to left-leaning. I also agree with Rob in that both extremes share something in common.
Cleese's biggest problem is he still thinks politics is the same as it was in his 30's and is ULTRA hardcore left. Honestly surprised he would take with Rob
@@brokenman58 Western politics could be seen as moving towards a strange mix of neo-feudalism and technocracy. Wokeism generally isnt top down, and largely comes from the populace itself, and is only really a problem in its extreme form, where identities are more important than the individual. It has filtered into the mainstream politics through the 'normal jobs' in government such as teaching and the civil service, and into mainstream culture through social media through activists and younger (often more naive) people, who spend a lot more time on social media, and therefore their opinions are overrepresented there. Politicians lean into it sometimes because they see votes there, I dont believe they actually care. Thats my simplified reading of the situation anyway.
@@planetdustbowl4825 wokeism is top down. the people in power are teaching it in their schools for a reason. it's a method of getting the population to control and distract each other while the real villains keep laughing their way home from the bank.
I grew up in a family that was very sarcastic with each other & our friends. It was an indication that we are comfortable together & that we love each other. Modern liberal families would probably be offended with how my family interacted with each other. If you can go for the joke, go for the joke. Even if the joke is about yourself.
The guys from South Park said it best. Either everyone can be made fun of, or no one can. And it’s when someone starts dictating who can be made fun of that true bigotry begins.
SP, I believethere are only two themes they can't make fun of. Muhammad and Xin ji ping.
@@matosz23 They've done both
@@matosz23 dude a whole ass war almost started over the SP Mohammed episode
But do you really, honestly think that is the issue? Because I think you might be missing out. What people always seem to neglect is the relationship between who is making fun of who. And also the intent.
Racist jokes aren't bad. Racist jokes from people that every one knows is a racist c*nt.....those are bad.
Rob Schneider is a carrot
John Cleese and Rob Schneider is the pairing I would have NEVER expected in my entire lifetime, yet, I don't mind it at all while after having watched this.
Wokeism is rooted in Marxism. Just read “Animal farm" and see how they slowly change the laws on the wall . They are slowly and constantly changing the language so you can not get a handle on it. Also re-read “1984”, they re-wright history so they can force the discussion to be only from their perspective. And of course they have their regular hour of rage as well. It’s also in “1984”
It's sure to be cancelled. Wasting their "platforms" to spread the idea that people should be listening to each other? What fascism! What bigotry! And doing it so calmly! It's all Trump's fault! Let's stick to the plan here!: Virtue-signaling lectures, slanderous name-calling and vile threats is how it's done! There's a planet to be saved!
Rob Schneider is a human garbage pail kid!!! Except, not funny whatsoever!! His new show should be shown to kids in detention after school on the path to not take in life !!
@mikeland7699 Uhm, okay, cool thanks 👍
This was honestly a mind blowing moment for me and the moment I truly realised these sorts of comedian are some of the brightest damn minds out there. The core of who they are is conversation and making observations on the world and it's taken me 30 fucking 1 years to realise this is a sign of true intelligence and humanism.
perhaps the folks who assume harm is intended all the time is because they intend harm - so they assume others do as well
It's called projection, and it happens all the time.
Not just that, they can't conceive of someone NOT doing that. Those types of people don't actually believe you can be that good because they can't. It just doesn't compute to them.
usually it is because people have seen the type of behaviour before and that probably lead to physical violence or something else unpleasent. It's weird to asume that people are offended because they are shitty people. When it's obvious and pretty common knowledge that people are cautious for reasons like past experience and trauma.
It's crazy to think that we live in a time where grown ups and adults have to be forced by law to treat other people with respect. Hatecrime laws are being expanded and enforced in most of the world right now. Because people who pay taxes and vote are incapable of treating other people with respect. I don't see how this makes any sense??? you aren't capable of treating others with common respect. Then wtf are you able to vote ?
Exactly. Those who HAVE hatred in their hearts, see it in everyone. They imagine it, that's all they think about.
how comforting it is to listen to sanity even if only for a few minutes.
thank you Rob, thank you John
when so Little Is "Out There", Now; In Life!!!
Rob is a mong
@@modskillslebon part Asian, so yeah, he could be Mongolian
@@CountBlackjacula-dr9ce you’re a mong
Even if it is on a planned oppo channel !
“Political correctness is America's newest form of intolerance, and it is especially pernicious because it comes disguised as tolerance. It presents itself as fairness, yet attempts to restrict and control people's language with strict codes and rigid rules. I'm not sure that's the way to fight discrimination. I'm not sure silencing people or forcing them to alter their speech is the best method for solving problems that go much deeper than speech.” -George Carlin
People have been fighting political correctness for a long, long time and woke is just taking political correctness to an extreme. People have known about the problem for decades, but didn't have the social media platforms to fight back. Now they do and are clearly winning this battle.
I am so over the whole PC movement the BS is more like a BM.
I don't CARE about your feelings 😮
I so miss him. I loved the way he unapologetically put things. Yes, he made it laughable, and he kept the truth in it. People with thin skin get shaving cuts just looking at razors.
@@stickman1742 It's just Marxism in another form.. there's nothing new about PC or Woke.
*I'm more than sure George Carlin didn't say this in to help you recruit disaffected boys to your skinhead gang.*
Yes, college used to be fun, now it's who can be the biggest victim.
It is like the biggest losers got together and decided to build a society according to their believes.
They are doing well so far, but how pathetic it is...
I work with a Hispanic guy I’ve known for years, and we joke with each other all the time. Yesterday he asked me what it’s like being a gringo. He said it must be the best thing ever, and we just laughed. We crack jokes because we love each other and it is our way of showing affection.
👏👏
LOL! I would have replied, "and yet here i am working with you! Where is my privilege!"
*If he called you gringo, he's not in love with you.* I'm saying you made this up.
@@hulkhatepunybanner No! Somebody may or may not have made something up online?!?
While it may or may not be true, *I* have friends that i joke about with things that are not PC.
But you won't believe that either, i bet.
@@jeromethiel4323 *The laughs are at your expense when you're not in the room, "gringo."* You don't know me but trust me.
In a normal democratic society you HAVE to be able to make fun of, and joke about ANYTHING.
When you start imposing self-censorship that's when you have lost.
In Soviet Russia after a while the government didn't have to censor people any more because people censored themselves. Which is the point.
Damn straight...I mean there is a time and place but you should always remain true to your convections...damn autocorrect 😂
what's funny is progressives giving their protected groups an overtly privileged double standard while saying everyone else is privileged
Exactly.
What is your definition of self-censorship?
I’ve always thought of it as your own decision to not use curse words in your speech, or choosing not to go see Saw IV because you don’t like gore. Not that you’re trying to censor other people.
My definition of self-censorship I think is perfectly healthy. You should not have to be exposed to something you don’t want to see (in terms of entertainment). But it’s your responsibility to do so. SELF-Censorship.
I absolutely despise censorship, but I also believe people should be responsible enough to make their own decisions on what media they consume.
I'd spent nearly 30 years in the US Military and your discussion at the end really speaks to me. Most people who've served have that kind of regard for their good friends. They'll insult them to their face and support them to their dying breath behind their back. You don't see that outside of the ranks very often and I love that it is something that you guys get.
*Wait, someone insulting me to my face and hiding behind me as I get shot is my friend?* With friends like these... who wants to join the military?
"Pay a few good men for aiming a gun when we tell them to. And the rest will have to do as we say when the guns are pointed at them." The elitists of the western new world order.
Thank You for your Service.
Anyone remember Rob's film "The Animal" where the black guy gets really annoyed because no matter what he does everyone is afraid to speak up because it would presumably be racist? Talk about an accurate prediction 😂
The same thing has happened with feminism. What seems to have started off as a fight for equal rights and pay has turned into one side of the population saying things like chivalry is dead, while the other bemoans mansplaining and proclaims that men aren't actually needed in society anymore. I'm afraid to offer my help to anyone I see struggling these days lest I be berated for assuming a woman is incapable.
To be entirely honest: that has to be incredibly frustrating for many people. The idea that people are always putting on some show of the character they decide to be when talking to others with immutable characteristics, instead of just keeping it 100-ish (maybe like 95% lol?)
I have limited experience with that, yet I do kinda know how that feels in a roundabout way...and society is definitely encouraging it via social media narcissism, identity politics machinations and virtue signaling.
Thankfully, offline, that concept is less prevalent. That is almost the origin of the "go touch grass" meme to a degree.
And people often forgive the faux pas false steps of people just speaking more freely (within reason, and in good faith of course). The internet...less so.
@@seanlaverty40I'm not incapable, but sometimes I appreciate the help. Don't let these delusional children sway what's innate to you. Every last one of them is headed for a brick wall or a bottomless pit...get your popcorn ready. Mini rant over. Lol
The simple answer is just to ask them if they need any help. That puts the onus on them.@@seanlaverty40
I quote that all the time!! Reverse racism!
Its legit worst than actual racism!
I could have listened to them for hours.
Random video pushed to my feed but thoroughly enjoyed it... what relaxed, witty and intelligent chat between two friends talking about topical issues. It's like a breath of fresh air these days!
I keep getting these random videos also, very strange, vids on religion, trans issues, google will you just leave me alone and stop "forcing it" down my throat?
I liked the part where they set up a whole interview about how nobody laughs at their jokes anymore.
This was probably the most sane conversation I’ve heard in a long time. Thank you for this. I needed this.
If you think that is sane then your insane and that's too bad.
If you needed that, then you're blue pilled
That was so nice to see. Such a shame that when i see 2 normal people saying normal things, i feel gratitude. Take me back to the time when this conversation didn't need to happen
No kidding! Simply normal, intelligent, relaxed conversation has inexplicably become a rare gem.
Reading this, you made me realize that I felt that very same feeling!
me too
Take us back to the day when Monty Python wasn't a documentary.
There is nothing normal about Hollywood and if you feel this is normal then you really need to ground yourself and get back to reality.
Absolutely fantastic video!!
A beautiful conversation. This is a great segment for GBN.
Two naturally funny men talking sense - excellent.
I loved this!
Having a sense of humor is not thinking something is funny, a sense of humor is knowing when someone is joking and adjusting your own reaction accordingly 👌👌
Dead on accurate! It’s not about agreeing with everyone, but recognizing there is always room to pick on either side of issues! Just be funny and humorous, don’t preach political ideology!
Too much "humor" has been generated at the expense of others, which leads to biases/attitudes that reflect REAL social policy. Your ignorance of this FACT is astounding.
for instance, when someone is joking you can adjust by telling them to fuck off. Nobody is obligated to like your joke snowflake.
@@Geezer-yf8hv I'm gonna keep preaching political ideology because I live in a democracy and it's an essential part of it. I'm also not gonna laugh at your jokes because it's funny watching old men act like snowflakes when nobody likes their joke.
@@dewdew80lol you are so lazy in your ideology you have to use old right wing insults that the left wing only thinks they made their own.
Learning that these two legends are friends is the best thing that has happened to me in 2024.
The year of 2024 just started a month and half ago, and that fact is already the best thing that happened to you in the current year, mate? (let's hope not 😉)
Love both these gentlemen ❤
Ditto ❤. I feel silly asking but are they in a real restaurant? I notice ppl not minding their conversation 🤷🏼♂️ 🙏
Two of my favorite funny men!
Sensible conversation. thx to both of you
YOU CAN DO ITTTT
...ALL NIGHT LOOOONG!!! 😁😁🤣🤣
Rob Schneider is great.
Brilliant! Thank you for addressing this topic. We are in dire straits for these kind of conversations in a wider perspective in society today. Thank you.
Am I the only one who immediately heard "Walk of Life" as soon as I read "dire straits"?
In spite of my favorite song of theirs being "Money for Nothing".
The extras in the background are hilarious.
It is so refreshing to listen to two rational, intelligent, adults have a civil yet humorous conversation! Thank you, gentlemen!
That is the problem , in America they are hard to find those rational, intelligent, "adults" 🙄🙄🤦♂🤦♂
@@LUC66631 are you saying they could only find one American that could talk to an Englishman?
Who would have thought that one of the people having an intelligent conversation would have been Rob Schneider.
@@jasoneverett LOL! Mr. Everett, you are so right. I share your shock and amazement as well. I never saw that coming. Whodda thunk it? 🙃
@@jasoneverett It's so out of character for him since he's a total dbag most of the time.
John Cleese....national treasure.
📺📽🏴🇬🇧🫡
What nation, you ask. All of them.
Mr. Cleese is a Universal Treasure.
These few minutes of sanity in the world today is a breath of fresh air... So reassuring and comforting to know others feel this way.
John Cleese nailed it. "Affectionate teasing."
I grew up in the "A Pollak, a Jew, and a Black guy walked into a bar....." age. And the Polish, Jewish, and Black guys all laughed at the punchline.
Years ago, people were allowed to tease each other. In today's age, one "offensive" word or phrase sparks an outrage because they can blast their misplaced anger world-wide over the internet.
So which age was actually more "Together" as a society?
Well, as a man of Irish descent, you can still tell Irish jokes because we’re not pussies.
@@KnightOnBaldMountain What two words can make an Irishman sad?
Last call
@@MichaelMeade-d7b Good one!
Pollacks know all the best Polish jokes. We've heard plenty enough of them...
You have to admit
This "age" is completely laughable
The internet was supposed to bring the world together. To some degree it has
And to some degree it's driven division.
Glad I've for the most part disconnected from it.
I'm offended that there's absolutely nothing to be offended about in this video. ;) Five minutes of straight facts.
I'm offended that you're not offended by this inoffensive video.
'Intolerance dressed up as manners.'
So true!
And its not just the left doing this. Trying criticizing Isreal and watch how all those on the right that are supposedly free speech absolutists switch tunes and start crying prejudice, and for cancel culture. This a-la-carte moral standards practiced by large segment of both left and right alike is one reason I became an independent.
Wow I have always been a huge fan of John Cleese and absolutely love him, but I never realized how wise and cool Rob Schneider was. I agree 100% with both of them and I wish I could have sat at that table and been a part of their wonderful conversation. This video clip brought a smile on my face, thank you.
Met Rob at a comedy club in Omaha. Super nice guy very down to earth.
Yeah no kidding, I guess it's not as well of a known fact but Rob is legit awesome. Solid dude
His Twitt...er I mean "X" is awesome...
You always know when you have a proper Friendship with someone, it's when you stay to make fun of each other.
Not to be sexist (please don't cancel me - ah, who gives a shit) but this is mostly a man thing. Women tend not to use insult comedy against each other. They target themselves. Men go right in there. They greet each other with "Oi! Terry you wanker!" or "Fuck me Steve, you're a fat bastard these days! Where's the wife did you eat her for breakfast? And not in a good way! Ha ha ha ha ha!". "Got to say Mike, you look like shit! So you've tidied up then!".
“Wokeism is intolerance dress up as manners” is hitting the nail right on the head. I couldn’t have expressed that any better than that.
Modern Leftism and feminism is a new religion, replacing the older religions
It's much like socialism which the Left tries to tell us is "just sharing". No it's actually theft of your property to be redistributed as the government sees fit.
Sounds like conservatism in a nutshell
Absolutely fabulous show! It was like ears dropping on a wonderful conversation between two comical, intelligent and very interesting men.
ears = eaves
@@kiwitrainguy ….I know the difference thank you, I chose to use the word ears. My comment, my words.
OK, I was really doing for the benefit of others reading your comment in the future. To quote Peter Cook "You could confuse a stupid person".@@V.C.S69
those of which their names we do not speak
@@V.C.S69 you don't know the difference or you wouldn't have used the wrong word.. theres no such saying as "ears dropping." just admit you didn't know the correct phrase and move on. saying you CHOSE to say it incorrectly makes you sound dumber than just admitting you made a mistake.
Many years ago I used to say that political correctness was an acceptable way to be dishonest.
What do you say these days?
That makes absolutely zero sense. I'm glad you only said it years ago.
@@defdaz. Being politically correct implies that you don’t say what you think.
thats pretty spot on
Intrigue
wow this was so refreshing
Even though I am not really sure about GB news, This programme, the more I see it, is so Python, so common sense. And Rob Schneider just perfectly sums up the woke agenda.
GB gets things wrong, GB gets things right, but they're not intentionally misleading you.
He's only summing up one side. The other side of woke, the rigth wing side, he hasn't even considered.
@@martynblackburn9632There is no right wing side of woke other than those on the right have awakened to the left wing woke bullshyt
Watch more of this great channel. Some really good reporting, just get past the social packaging.
@@martynblackburn9632Please elaborate what you mean.
Cleese saying he loves Rob is comfort to my 50yr old soul.
Your friends will complement you.
Your enemies will insult you.
Your best friends will insult you in ways that would shock your enemies.
Your worst enemies will give you the sweetest sounding complements.
It’s bullying disguised as righteousness.
Your feels... eff them.
South Park created one of the best sayings I've seen in my life time. Intolerance will not be tolerated!
Wokes vs Cons is a game where being better at it makes you worse. From raging because someone knelt during the anthem in peaceful protest, to calling everything and everyone racist, the extremists on both sides are the least productive people to communicate with.
@@itoibo4208except the kneeling during the anthem thing is literally born out of the "everything is racist" ideology. It's pretty easy at this point to see which side is acting in good faith. The C19, Floyd, Rittenhouse, and Jan 6 tapes say it all...hard evidence was ignored to the point of dragging out farcical trials and media coverage for years. It's been wild to watch...
@@itoibo4208 What are 'Cons'? The only Cons, I've heard of are prisoners; convicts, so this must be something else?
What John Cleese said at the end is so true. Friends can ridicule each other. This was the basis of the Roasts that Dean Martin used to host. They all loved each other and they roasted each other.
In Australia, they tried this once but their humour was very rude and insulting to the guest person and it never landed right. It was canned after 1 episode. The insults were too personal and not from a place of friendship.
The flaming galah mongrels haven't got a clue.
With the Dean Martin Roasts, the mockery was at the Roastee's image, not their actual personality, although Don Rickles could go too far.
Australians are known to save some of the most crass disgusting insults for their mates. A roast can definitely work here but there is no point using American humour for the same reason that Australian comedy shows don't do well as US remakes. To say they “tried it once” doesn't say whether they tried it well or not, it might have been “once” and poorly done.
@@jacobpaint lets face it if we used their logic.. most of us would be celibate our whole lives
"tried that one time. wasnt good. didnt bother trying again"
human race would die out in a few generations
you are 100% spot on if theyd done it the Australian way it would have worked for you guys.
I was slow on the uptake about friends roasting each other. When I realized the level of trust demonstrated in a good ribbing between friends, I came to cherish those moments when my friends and I poke fun at each other.
Excellent conversation
One of the funniest movies is Blazing saddles. It was funny because it made fun of everyone. Just thinking about it makes me want to see it. Too bad making fun of people is not allowed anymore. Ahh the good old days.
How can you make fun of people who mock themselves whenever they open their mouths ?
Actually there are lots of people you are allowed to make fun of. Mostly White people.
all the racist jokes in that movie were written by richard prior ( a black US comedian for those outside the USA who dont know)
it was funny because it made FUN of ignorance and racism in US history
it pointed out how we were ALL dumb AF racist or ignorant to some degree in those days
Is it not allowed? Who is stopping it?
Blazing Saddles followed a trend that Mel Brooks was so good at. He pushed the boundaries in order to take down the people on the wrong side of history. Look at The Producers where they have a musical production that tries to glorify Hitler with songs like "Springtime For Hitler". To Be Or Not To Be was another pop at Hitler with that fantastic spoof song of the same name. As a Jewish producer, writer and performer people couldn't accuse him of being anti-semitic (boy has that changed these days). Nor could they lambast him for running around in a Nazi uniform (not like they could today at least). But he was following the grand tradition engaged in by Charlie Chaplin of ridiculing the ridiculous. Chaplin of course had a pop at Hitler. So did George Formby whose character actually punches Hitler in the chops. Cartoons galore did the same. But in an attempt to silence the dissenters the Right (and it IS mostly the Right) have made it verboten to talk about certain things in jest because you must be serious and it must be offensive. Especially if you're attacking the establishment. This isn't new. This has been going on for millenia.
John's voice is so iconic. It's one of those voices that just makes you feel warm, like you're smiling inside.
Absolutely 😂
I'm pretty sure that John Cleese is not best known for playing warm characters or indeed for being a warm person - even the other Pythons seemed to think that
You can only be offended if you choose to be offended.
and you're only cancelled, if you allow yourself to be cancelled.
this is a good rounded take, but the issue is that people dont realize that it applies to both sides.
People nowadays jump through hoops to be offended,these types are offended for others,,,that don’t know they should be offended
Sure, but it's not really about offence.
It's possible to say something racist, sexist or ableist without meaning to. That's not a terrible thing as long as we can apologise and learn.
@@vehicledestroyerNo the issues is… is e.g. that there are sides to begin with . That won’t be the case some day in “The World To Come” 🕍 🇮🇱 but that’s a metaphysical thing and another conversation entirely.
Robs rocking the truth!!!
True. Reminds me of the Oscar’s slap, that people were laughing until it was considered unfunny.
This was healthy. Always good to hear from John Cleese too.
I never knew, "The Animal " was so insightful. Thanks 😊
"They're looking to be insulted"
😂
So that they can provide their scripted response.
@@deanpapadopoulos3314 yup 👍
that's projection from comedians with their feelings hurt. They got called out for not being funny when they did disrespectful "jokes". So now they want to throw dirt. While desperately trying to make it casual. Like what is this setup ? like John Cheese and Rob snaildier just randomly met eachother at a comedy club for fancy pants and sat down to have a sip of water and whiskey while talking about the probelm with woke people in their audience ?
This is so staged and paid for by desperat conservatives and these two gentlemen could'n care less about taking their money for this job because they know that the people they are "targeting" understands business and understands that this changes nothing. As it's too obvious and people won't take it seriously. Well. At least not people who didn't already have a screw lose in their bigoted "brains".
Beautiful conversation.
JOHN CLEESE, THE BEST MAN TO RULE THE WORLD!
What a great conversation
You guys are absolutely AWESOME !!! I'm 58, and I grew up watching and enjoying both of you as comedians, and mentors... Both of you speak the truth, you both have been "around the block" a few times, when most people don't even make it to the first corner. Thank you for standing up and speaking about how things were back in the day, and how everything has been highjacked by narcissistic pyschopaths... Cheers guys, Thank you both😂😂😂
Hi Greg! 👋🇦🇺 I’m 52, I agree!! We were lucky to have grown up in a very happy, fun filled time!! Goodness me it’s HARD to find good, funny shows & movies these days!! 💕🇦🇺💃
When people look at the past through rose coloured glasses they are looking at an alternative reality that never existed. Have they forgotten Lenny Bruce? This was a million years before the word Woke was ever coined as a phrase. He used adult words in his stand up act and police would wait in the nightclub ready to pounce on him as soon as he said a banned word. So, he used "Blah" to replace all words that were banned. But, the grown up and intelligent audience knew what the word "Blah" represented. So the authorities had him arrested for saying "Blah" in his act because it put an 'unacceptable thought' in the minds of the people watching. For example, he would ask a female member of the audience: "Have you ever Blahed a man's Blah?". The woman and the audience knew what he was inferring but he never actually said it. Yet, he was arrested. So please don't pretend that this is something new that was invented by the Left. This was a branch of McCarthyism instigated by the Right way before the Wokeism blamed on the Left was a twinkle in an oppressed minority's eye.
@@trevorberridge6079 This one does history.
Still, just shows it's ALL the olds being pathetic, bored, scared and doing something in the last couple since their lives did not in fact amount to what they envisioned.
@@trevorberridge6079 So, it's been a problem, from the US, for much longer than I was aware of. The Western world is crumbling because of a mental disease, that has the USA as patient zero.
@@trevorberridge6079 Your patronizing dismissive and misapplied opening sentence reflects an overly emotional response from you, and much more telling than you had likely told yourself. Lenny Bruce was a both a different era and a vastly different case than these guys' considerable experience, get your stories straight. He was also a long time drug addict and alleged fraudster, who had one conviction for an obscenity charge - offensive words, just like hate speech. Folks are getting arrested and jailed for that once again..
And McCarthyism was long before them as well, and ironically pales in comparison to today's repeat of it..
Cleese clearly states that the "righteously offended" in his time tended to consider themselves on the political "right" (his term, not mine) while today the "righteously offended" consider themselves on the political "left" (again, their term). But in his time nobody was getting arrested - on the contrary, it's popularity was ubiquitous and completely free. They had truly progressed much further by then.. until now.
Their entire convo and point is the freedom of speech and ideas from tyranny and its inevitable oppression. Whether that tyranny cloaks itself in the "right" or the "left" is immaterial, save for the use of those manufactured "group" dividers to keep you emotionally toeing the line.. not unlike any other gangs. Sounds like you've got yourself hooked.
Monty Python was way ahead of its time. They saw all this coming. Especially their skit on "I want to be a woman". His fellows answered, "You can't be a woman, you're a man". Then comes, "But I want to have a baby".
One of my FAVORITE skits!! :)
@@janedoe5229 It was funny, then!!! We thought, how absurd. That could never happen.
And some think that joke can't be made anymore
(There's a YT vid discussing that between 2 comedians)
Best scene in Life of Brian!
have you looked up transplants for that though ? science is amazing. But the human body is even more amazing. Science would'n be possible if the human body didn't allow it. Trans people are valid and should not be treated like dirt. When you have a pile of rocks. Do you also just throw your gems into that pile and say "a rock is a rock" ?
One of the most intelligent conversations I've watched on a screen in a long time. Refreshing. Thanks for bringing some sanity back to our lives you two.
So who was that other guy that wasn't John Cleese?
@@kellycochran6487 YOU CAN DO IT!
Just look at the Cinema, when was the last time there was a Comedy.. 'Intolerance dressed up as manners', perfect example
There are no comedies being shown in cinemas rtn? Are you sure?
@@martynblackburn9632 Name one.
Plenty just google it.
@@darrenporter1850 Blazing Saddles............oh, God am I old.
@@HeronPoint2021 Yes lots of old Comedies. No new ones. It's gone so woke, everyone is scared to make them anymore. Still waiting on 'Marty' to name one.
that was very concise
Such a refreshing conversation 👍
Wow, two of my most favourite talented comedians speaking truth. This was lovely to watch.
Yes, Rob has an impressive catalogue, from a redneck whose only line is "you can do it" to a Chinese stereotype in an Adam Sandler movie. A real Daniel Day-Lewis.
@@RobulousDeecry harder that your insensitivity’s were injured. Or you are to much of a ignorant pos to be aware of the rest of his career and his place in the stand up community.
😂😂😂😂
You are whats wrong with the world today not realizing these people are just actors playing a part. They are actors, they act out a part and do very well. Acting is completely fake and you can no longer tell the difference. As far as people like you are concerned, how it sounds if far more important than the actual message to the point you don't even listen to their message.
@@petebusch9069 well, rob isn't much of an actor. 😂
The difference is that even if a very few on the Right are offended, they don't demand that anyone be canceled. On the other hand, there are MANY on the Left who are constantly offended and who demand that the offenders be CANCELED!
well, back in the day that is exactly what they did, it was just nowhere near as big a scale or got as much attention as it does now because obviously they didn't have social media lol. That's what makes modern cancel culture so funny, it's gone full circle and we're back to trying to cancel artists for their art.
Remember Bill Clinton? The most fiscally conservative president since Reagan, and they wanted to cancel him for consensual relationships. Consevatives of the day: "if he is willing to lie about this to his wife and to america, what else will he do?" Then they vote for Trump. **shrugs**
Wokism tries to even erase the way we laugh, they feel miserable and want everyone around to feel just like them.
kinda like i heard Max Headroom say once. "Politeness is just the most accepted form of Hypocrisy." Wokeness IS blatant hypocrisy in almost every form. Its such fake virtue, it's cringeworthy. Which leads me to another great Max quote. "Those that can, DO! Those that can't, CENSORE!"
Oh, please. Being polite is just a lubricant that a civilized society needs in order to function.
If politeness is hypocrisy then they are right to reject it and pursue justice instead. I hope they continue being aggressive because old men will bully and lie to get what they want, so bullying and telling the truth to achieve a bit of fairness is far better. Two old men whining about why they're no longer liked, it's pathetic and anyone angry at university students when they're primarily children still working the world out is a pathetic loser of an old man or somebody who sticks their nose way up old people ass.
woke
adjective
(informal, often disapproving)
aware of social and political issues, especially racism.
Oxford English Dictionary.
Now tell me, how is this hypocritical? We all are woke.
That's a really meaningless quote lol do you really think Max Headroom wasn't just trolling? The fact you find that profound is hilarious and I'm sure he would have laughed at you
@@davidjones8043 Ok Hipster
Being afraid to laugh is oppression.
I was interested in the interview but I, personally, can't get past how some extras were paid to sit around in silly outfits and pretend to speak.
That also seemed daft to me. For a few seconds, I found myself wondering if the clip had lost its context. 🫢
@@michaelparker3709 I think it's just that the people who organized it are of an older generation and have a different idea of entertainment from me, and that is fine.
Clowns to the left, Jokers to the right, stand in the middle with me.
We're STUCK in the middle with you i.e. we have no where to go . except down.
I love that song. Singing along to it if it comes on the car radio makes my day. A 70s hit that is so relevant today.
I'm standing right there with you. While we're here... let me tell you a joke about a priest, pastor and rabbi...
Total Govt control to the left of me and No Govt control to the right of me. Govt is the problem... The middle is where it stinks most.
@@vikingspud 😂😂😂👍💗
I think the concept of taking offence is seen as from a superior position, so some of these people assert their superiority by taking offence.
Yeah. the problem is there either young and or never accomplished anything.
"Victimhood" is used to elicit sympathy and full compliance. When I was younger, we would refer to it as guilt-tripping, or just manipulation, because the goal is to make you feel ashamed and fully submit.
Love Rob he’s such a great guest and common sense talker ❤
This is a derivative of an old George Carlin quote: “Political Correctness is fascism disguised as manners.” That being said, still incredibly insightful to this day.
Very true thank you
It is true sometimes. Sometimes, though, it really is just good manners.
So true, i'm a socialist but i hate woke culture so much, i fell like it's counter productive to have the left being associated with wokeism
no it's not insightful to say it. it's insightful to think it
George Carlin was intelligent and hilarious because he made you think bout the social norms at the time.
Sadly, he became bitter in his later years of stand up and because of that, I found it difficult to appreciate his routine
RIP George and thank you for making me think 👍👍
100% accurate. Nothing should be outside of joking, or criticism. The more offended they are by what you're making fun of, THE MORE IT NEEDS TO BE MADE FUN OF! And probably NEEDS to be made fun of!
Well said, carnist. That is exactly why we say oatmilk over and over when you melt down because a vegan walked in the room. WE MUST make fun of you and your very fragile position. It's the american way.
So does that mean the kids who bullied me in school for my lazy eye were right to bully me because I was offended by it? My eye NEEDED to be made fun of? It makes sense that people like you feel drawn to the rhetoric in the video. There is a difference between classy humor and just being a dick.
@@chrisking6695 Yeah, probably. Life sucks and people can be mean - if someone's a dick move along and get over it, don't ban them from speaking or get them fired. That's just fucking pathetic.
absolutely look at the countries you arent allowed to make fun of thier leaders.........all terrible fcked unfunny stern uptight fearful societies
absolutely look at the countries you arent allowed to make fun of thier leaders.........all terrible unfunny stern uptight fearful societies
I love Robert Schneider ... loved him in the Hot Chick ..he isn't part of that Hollywood BS either.
I remember Rob's anti trump vids in 2016... I may be the only person who saved them. They were cringe
@@Timic83tc people change
@@Timic83tcI think he got caught up in the Trump hysteria. Sometimes it’s hard to see things clearly, when you’re immersed in a group of people that are constantly spouting the same ideology. I think it took him a moment to really see it for what it was and is. Epiphanies do happen.
@@sharonsimmons6427 fair enough... i should leak the vids tho
@@Timic83tc 🤣😂 I do remember them, and it was definitely a 180 from this position. I think he finally saw the media hypocrisy, and was called out for a reasonable response to what’s going on in the world right now. Once he was on the other side of the intolerance, he had clarity of the BS being slung on any decenter of the ideology.
"YOU CAN DO IT!" Love Rob Schneider and John Cleese 2 legends.
These two guys just chatting away, it’s so cool. I had no idea they were such friends
Thanks guys grown up thinking
Oh god. Please can we go back to this? That was like a warm bath of reason and genuine sympathy. 🙏🏻
Young people are more intolerant than ever. They are not more open minded at all.
Don't believe the hype and the sterotypes. People are not all hive minded. Young people actually tend to be more progressive. It's the old farts that control Universities that have laid down the rules that students have to abide by. Some young people are also being politicised by the Right in order to shut down discourse. There's a lot of "Hitler's Playbook" shit going down in the world right now.
Oh look at the old just in this little circle jerk spouting off the same thing their parents did, their grandparents did, their grand grandparents did, and so on and so forth.
Watching you guys turn into your parents is expected, predictable and kind of sad.
Glad to see the youngers aren't using bitter as a crutch. ;)
Yet a recent poll said if the election was held today Trump would defeat Biden among young people. Who would’ve thought young people would vote for Archie Bunker? No me…
That's unfair. Young people have ALWAYS been idealistic. They're just finding their way. The only difference now is that ideas spread from one side of the planet to the other in an instant due to the internet. The internet has been a catalyst for the amplification of misguided or bad ideas for that generation. I kind of feel bad for them. Must really suck being amongst such information overload.
I would say again, brilliant! it is inspiring to see two comedians of that level analyzing so thoroughly a form of control installed so efficiently. On the other hand, Schneider, what a wonderful person, so brilliant and so humble at the same time.
Two legends. Rob Schneider is amazing, he was totally overqualified for a lot of movies that made him feel like he wasn't as good.
I LOVE Rob Schneider. But, you're wrong. He is great in the movies and cameos he does. He adds a lot, he really does. BUT, he is NOT overqualified and he was not underused.
nonsense. He is an actor. Nothing more.
I like Rob, but he's a one trick pony...
Yeah, his performance in Deuce Bigelow totally deserved an Oscar nod.
Yea was watching home alone 2 and his simple bellhop role brought a lot to the movie.
Ask any genX and they will tell you back in the day the way you bond with your friends is to give them shit. You would never waste time teasing someone you didn't like.
I was born on the earlier side of the millennial generation, and that's how most everyone I grew up around was also.
When John Clees says that left-wing intolerance starts from a good place - let's be kind to people - I'm not sure that's correct at all.
Do you have other theories?
@@edwardmitchell6581 Yes, poor character.
@edwardmitchell6581 human fragility, disrespect, and a false sense of entitlement.. because they expect everyone to think and talk like them. Every missed pronoun is somehow a direct attack and we should all know better so that we are "inclusive". What a crock.
@@Sdority905 Let me guess. You've literally never met anyone whose asked for special pronouns. Tell me I'm wrong.
@@brandonflorida1092 As in certain character flaws cause people to ask society to adapt to their flaws?
Love them both. Originally for their comedic minds, now just for their minds in general.
The first thing to go under Communism is free expression which includes not just words, but art in any form (including comedy) which flies in the face of the collectivist narrative.
Yes! A light just illuminated the truth...it's communism. It's the thin edge of the wedge. And of course, many leftists secretly admire Marxist ideology (some not so secretly)
that's just not true. don't confuse woke libers with communists.
Same thing happens in Fascism to be fair. As well as many other forms of authoritarianism.
People do forget though: fascismo basically developed from marxism. Like, almost a direct line of cause and effect + individuals with power.
Do you ever get through a day without mentioning communism/socialism?
@@py_a_thon Fascism developed directly from Socialism, but not Marxism. Communism largely grew from the Marxist socialists, while Fascism was more directly influenced by the French nationalists (with their usual monarchist sentiments removed). Marx was only one of many socialist writers, with several different groups within socialism focused on other writers.
Essentially the Italian socialists of the early 20th century were pacifist (at least so far as joining WWI went), while the typically younger socialists felt that WWI would destroy the existing monarchies/empires and kick off a socialist revolution. So many prominent pro-war socialists broke away, starting the Italian Fascism party and supported the war to help destroy the existing system.
And they were indeed largely correct about the war destroying the monarchies, but their socialist revolution only ever really kicked off in Russia and was far more influenced by the Marxists. It's somewhat ironic (and probably intentionally misleading) that Fascism is so often portrayed as right wing in modern media since at least the 1940s, when fascism was always very anti-monarchist and Right/Left comes specifically from the French Revolution, with the right wing very clearly the monarchist side.
Interesting times when comedians are more rational and sensible than politicians.
always been.
Yes, comedians have always been more realistic than politicians. They are great observers of the human condition.
I can't think of a time when it was the other way around... at any point in history
Brazil's new hero! Thank you. You have no idea how important your words were. God bless you and your family, mr. Schneider.
Rob Schneider having an intelligent conversation is surreal
Sadly he’s made a lot of the same genre films and and has been stereotyped because of it. I’m guilty of that. The man’s clearly a clever guy.
He is a good man who stepped up to push back on woke Hollywood crap. Not an easy choice.
John Cleese is a class act
@@VanMan83you have an interesting point of view. I see Schneider as a crybaby snowflake that can't make it unless he complains about others.
@@birdy1numnumwell that is because you are drinking the koolaid. Truth and facts hurt your feelings... Question, are you wearing a mask right now?
I still remember the first time I saw Sam K. in Back to School. I cried laughing at his scenes and still quote them to this day. That was my intro to his comedy.
The right people to talk about this. Thanks for the upload.
When John Cleese speaks, you don't get up and leave the room! What kind of person does that? You'd have to be infinitely stupid and ignorant to do that. He's a national treasure, he's insanely funny, and he has so much wisdom and knowledge to pass on.
I said it before and I say it again: The younger generations weren't raised on Monty Python, Mel Brooks, and George Carlin and it shows.
How could you leave the room? I don't any coconuts.
What kind of person? Well some adjectives that come to mind: Sanctimonious, Humorless, Haters of Humanity, Dullards, Insufferable Cry Babies and in general, Children who never had an original thought in their lives.
You answered the question yourself there.
Don't forget Benny Hill...
You weren’t raised on Brooklyn 99 and it shows
I love John Cleese in this Elder Statesman phase of his life. Still such a cool guy.
Excellent conversation. A few quotes to remember.
Great discussion! Rob is so right. Their being offended about so many things simply grows out of a deep, unshakable self-righteousness. And that means they have a Holy Cause, with which they are justified in tyrannizing all who disagree. Also, it's ruined their sense of humor, perverted what's left into a *nasty teasing*, as John says. Aaarrrggghhh! What can you do with people like that?
Mock them. They're hilarious. Also, it teaches them some real manners.
You describe right-wingers perfectly.
@@NathanielHellerstein Oh yes, but I'm not a comedian like Schreiber or Cleese (who is a veteran and quite a comic-philosopher). NO one likes being mocked for their beliefs if they're fanatical about them.
@@trevorberridge6079 Welll, exactamundo! Ditto my reply to user-tp7gy4dj4l. However, as an addendum, I don't think they'll learn manners from it. They just seem to go batsh*t.
@@trevorberridge6079if you have payed any attention to any of this you would realize that’s both sides at this point. But get in your little none jab so people can realize how ignorant you are.
Is anyone else confused that GB News canceled Dan Wonton and Calvin and Lawrence Fox. Over some Woke nonsense but is fine hosting the dinosaur hour? I love the dinosaur hour by the way
I'm not confused or surprised, blatant hypocrisy and double standards are the norm for all mainstream media.
Woke is the excuse for cancelling those who start revealing the damning truths.
GB News is nothing if not hypocritical.
damn you're telling me two old guys are upset at people getting upset?? crazy
original.
This is the story of mankind through the ages, going from one extreme to the other.
The most sane 5 minute conversation i have seen and i love it👏🏼
And from none other but Tim the Enchanter and that one Chinese guy in 8 Crazy Nights
Rob Schneider is absolutely amazing and always has been.
also:
Your format is awesome.
I love that you made it feel like two dudes chatting at a coffee shop--well done.
John Cleese mentioning how in the old days you offended the right, and now you offend the left, reminded me of how baffling it was for me seeing strict censorship move from being right-leaning, to left-leaning. I also agree with Rob in that both extremes share something in common.
its almost as if authoritarianism is the real problem.
Cleese's biggest problem is he still thinks politics is the same as it was in his 30's and is ULTRA hardcore left. Honestly surprised he would take with Rob
@@brokenman58 Western politics could be seen as moving towards a strange mix of neo-feudalism and technocracy. Wokeism generally isnt top down, and largely comes from the populace itself, and is only really a problem in its extreme form, where identities are more important than the individual. It has filtered into the mainstream politics through the 'normal jobs' in government such as teaching and the civil service, and into mainstream culture through social media through activists and younger (often more naive) people, who spend a lot more time on social media, and therefore their opinions are overrepresented there. Politicians lean into it sometimes because they see votes there, I dont believe they actually care. Thats my simplified reading of the situation anyway.
@@planetdustbowl4825 wokeism is top down. the people in power are teaching it in their schools for a reason. it's a method of getting the population to control and distract each other while the real villains keep laughing their way home from the bank.
Seeing these two different generations comedians from my childhood together talking modern humor and comedy is very pleasant.
Thank you, and ditto.
You can dooo itt
Their mothers were hamsters and their fathers smelt of Elderberries.
I grew up in a family that was very sarcastic with each other & our friends. It was an indication that we are comfortable together & that we love each other. Modern liberal families would probably be offended with how my family interacted with each other. If you can go for the joke, go for the joke. Even if the joke is about yourself.