Why We Should Refuse to Get Into Arguments

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  • We should resist invitations to argue by recognising them for what they are: attempts by the other party to rescue themselves from unbearable feelings.
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    “However deep our theoretical commitment to serenity, in the course of an average day, we are likely to encounter a number of extremely well-crafted invitations to lose our tempers badly.
    Our partner will press a well-flagged nuclear button related, let’s imagine, to their views on our mother or our career choice. At work, a colleague may deliberately not answer a very simple question to which we urgently need an answer. A shop attendant may give us a bored, insolent shrug. Someone in the supermarket may falsely accuse us of standing in the wrong line…”
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Комментарии • 385

  • @stanleyconnor6898
    @stanleyconnor6898 2 месяца назад +883

    - How do you manage to live so well?
    - It's simple - I don't argue at all.
    - But this is impossible!
    - Yes, you are right.
    😂

    • @JLakis
      @JLakis 2 месяца назад +38

      "Wait, I came for an argument!" "Oh, sorry, this is Abuse. You want next door on your left."

    • @fasameijer794
      @fasameijer794 2 месяца назад +6

      😂😂😂

    • @adripekalski8148
      @adripekalski8148 2 месяца назад +5

      😂😂😂

    • @jacobubbles
      @jacobubbles Месяц назад +2

      😂😅

    • @__-tz6xx
      @__-tz6xx Месяц назад +2

      clever

  • @pch2230
    @pch2230 2 месяца назад +102

    As I get older, the phrase "picking your battles" seems increasingly wise. Most are pointless.

    • @sparkbag_
      @sparkbag_ Месяц назад +2

      so just like everythng else in life?

  • @medusagorgon8432
    @medusagorgon8432 Месяц назад +71

    This is so true. Some people genuinely enjoy a level of chaos and dysfunction. Once I realize where a conversation is going I immediately shift my tone and words. I wave myself out of that energy and walk away.

    • @alanrobertson9790
      @alanrobertson9790 12 дней назад

      Chaos and dysfunction won't win arguments. Maybe people with superior facts and reasoning enjoy arguments because they are good at it. Either way, unless you yourself enjoy arguments, I can agree with your conclusion.

  • @pfb74
    @pfb74 2 месяца назад +243

    When i respect someone intensely, i can pick up on their emotional triggers. When they pop at me I let them and eventually they apologize and admit what i already knew. It had nothing to do with me. Arguments are the same to me. Really its them arguing internally and your presence just allows for outwardly expression

    • @delinquents212
      @delinquents212 2 месяца назад +9

      I've heard this called "holding space" for someone, and it's a wonderful thing to be able to do.

    • @chiragrathore
      @chiragrathore 2 месяца назад +12

      It is not an entitlement to always be a veritable dusbin of someone's sentiment.

    • @delinquents212
      @delinquents212 2 месяца назад +17

      @@chiragrathore Both partners will get triggered at various points in the relationship. Holding space for each other when it happens is the most productive way to move through it. If it's one-sided, then I would agree with you.

    • @MonkeyHero
      @MonkeyHero 2 месяца назад +2

      Well said.

    • @xndr_mrw
      @xndr_mrw 23 дня назад +2

      ​@@delinquents212 from experience when only one partner holds space and the other drowns them with unwanted advice or told if only you acted different, it becomes soul draining to the point where resentment breaks through the seams and things gets said that hurts relationships.

  • @Sapphire37.
    @Sapphire37. 2 месяца назад +174

    A lack of understanding of someone's point of view or actions can be misconstrued as an invitation for an argument or a fight. Hearing and understanding people even when you disagree with them calms a lot and make things better.

    • @insankamil2909
      @insankamil2909 2 месяца назад +4

      depend, on their right and relation

    • @bannford
      @bannford 2 месяца назад +6

      I think this is closer to the crux of the video than the video itself

    • @user-zk8iz2kn9f
      @user-zk8iz2kn9f Месяц назад +4

      @@bannford I dont think the video advocates this, but this is the correct point they should be making.

    • @vinylrichiejr.2416
      @vinylrichiejr.2416 21 день назад +2

      Yeah that’s also what I thought about. I sure have situations in which I want to release my anger, but I also had situations in which I’m sure my motivation was to find a solution to a problem so it doesn’t come up in the future again and again because it gets ignored

  • @Cinephileofmany
    @Cinephileofmany 2 месяца назад +142

    I’m a man in his 30’s who has a mother a bit like this. An anxious argumentative woman, with some hidden aggression, often trying to goad a debate of some kind. I have almost become a ninja at shutting it down and having cold logical responses to such provocations. Sometimes not answering at all. Not an easy thing to form barriers against a mother like that and step into adulthood okay, ready to be intimate and open.

    • @jn48-sc5ei
      @jn48-sc5ei 2 месяца назад +13

      I think I understand your words, my friend. My late mother had a tendency to argue. Many times my best shield was silence. Just listen and try to understand her internal conflict. I know that sometimes she considered me indifferent because of that attitude. It wasn't pleasant, but it was necessary to keep our balance. I loved her and I still love her very much.
      Good luck, I wish you the best. 😊👍

    • @meofessler2524
      @meofessler2524 2 месяца назад +9

      I can understand you 100%. I also know a person who fits this description exactly. It's best to stay really calm. Often what seems to be a big problem has more to do with her than with you.

    • @mofathi85
      @mofathi85 2 месяца назад +10

      The problem with such situations is the love we feel towards them. You don't expect your mother to be a person who subconsciously or even worse sometimes intentionally wants to ruin your day, relationships, and life...

    • @simonhodgetts6530
      @simonhodgetts6530 2 месяца назад +6

      My mom has a tendency to be like this. I love her dearly, but sometimes it gets too much, and I’ll tell her so. I can see her thinking about what she’s just done, and often she will calm down, and we can move on. But it’s hard sometimes to deal with her constant negativity.

    • @khantagious
      @khantagious Месяц назад +5

      same, im almost 40 yet i struggle with a mother who triggers me. we'll be fine until at least once a month it feels like she has to find a reason to pick a fight. i have taken the bait the majority of my life. i need to learn to let go. this video and this comment in particular have been eye opening. thank you for sharing your experience.

  • @channel-nv9xc
    @channel-nv9xc 2 месяца назад +156

    The problem is a lot of people think they're the ones being aggresed and can't tell when they're being the aggressors.

    • @tmackjr8652
      @tmackjr8652 Месяц назад +1

      So true....

    • @naveed5047
      @naveed5047 Месяц назад +11

      Israel has left the chat

    • @iPondR
      @iPondR Месяц назад

      They're doing a pretend outrage so they can justify in their minds attacking you. Don't fall for it. Stay cool.

    • @cabilgibbs
      @cabilgibbs 29 дней назад

      All that is a choice and habit.. they know what they are doing...
      I dont cut them that slack you are speaking of..

    • @wizardofahhhhhhz
      @wizardofahhhhhhz 13 дней назад

      This!!!

  • @nicolaiqbal6823
    @nicolaiqbal6823 2 месяца назад +64

    Caveat: obviously there are people who have the opposite problem, and never argue, never stand up for themselves, when they really should. Some things are worth debating, worth fighting for!

    • @TheMpsmith
      @TheMpsmith 2 месяца назад +8

      Imagine your defense attorney taking the attitude of just accept it and move on. Wouldn't make for a very good attorney would it?

    • @josiee0874
      @josiee0874 2 месяца назад +5

      Agreed. I think the message from this video was more about picking those battles w/people that are worth keeping around wisely. In the end, reality is relative, and no body cares about other's decisions more than their own, so choose joy.

    • @kimsherlock8969
      @kimsherlock8969 2 месяца назад +4

      Yes respect 🙏 is worth fighting for when someone else is treating you as a minion

    • @hklinker
      @hklinker 2 месяца назад +3

      @nicolai Wouldn’t we judge those people who seldom argue by their actions, not their (arguing) words? Not feeding a fire is exercising restraint. In my experience, I can choose not to be threatened by provocations. If you’re clear about who owns what, who is responsible for what, what the consequences are for not living up to an agreement, etc then the scope for argument is greatly reduced. And if you can accept that people very often do what is best for themselves with little or no regard for how other people are affected, you can scale back blame as well.

    • @kimsherlock8969
      @kimsherlock8969 2 месяца назад +1

      Yes fair enough

  • @zoombinifleen9362
    @zoombinifleen9362 2 месяца назад +529

    You mention arguments as a way for people to reduce their own stress, but in my experience unsolicited advice/criticisms/opinions are the #1 way people deflect from their own issues to "help" (I.E: Annoy and irritate) others in their life in an attempt to take control of their own disastrous life by controlling others.

    • @randomleagueoflegendsthres1034
      @randomleagueoflegendsthres1034 2 месяца назад +5

    • @geekazoid47
      @geekazoid47 2 месяца назад +23

      Thats one way to protect your ego.

    • @fatherburning358
      @fatherburning358 2 месяца назад +6

      Indeed. And this channel in my experience is a great place to unintentionally invite such advice. 😂

    • @JLakis
      @JLakis 2 месяца назад +37

      That's exactly the point of the video. We can't control what others do. We can only control ourselves. And that includes what we will tolerate from others. Ie. boundaries.

    • @fatherburning358
      @fatherburning358 2 месяца назад +2

      See

  • @iOnlySignIn
    @iOnlySignIn 2 месяца назад +319

    Don't feed trolls, got it.

    • @PolishBehemoth
      @PolishBehemoth 2 месяца назад +10

      lol facts

    • @Novastar.SaberCombat
      @Novastar.SaberCombat 2 месяца назад +7

      Exactly. And sadly, there are MILLIONS of 'em. In my opinion, they outnumber the insightful, logical, ethical, scientific folks by a bloody landslide. This is unfortunate, but... it do be what it do be. Acceptance is key.

  • @simonhodgetts6530
    @simonhodgetts6530 2 месяца назад +22

    I learnt a while ago that arguments are just a waste of energy, so I try not to get into them, especially with anyone who seems to think that by getting aggressive, they’ll get their own way. I’ll simply walk away from this behaviour, or tell them ‘I’m not going to engage with you’ and let them fester. Some people thrive on friction, and they are welcome to be like that, just not with me.

  • @HealthFacts4Life
    @HealthFacts4Life 2 месяца назад +67

    If someone has control of your emotions, they are also in control of your actions. Be resilient. Don’t get easily offended. Listen in carefully, but don’t left them lynch you into their chaos.

    • @Lolcoca
      @Lolcoca 2 месяца назад +2

      And the perception of one person through another depends on his or her own thinking whether positive or negative also.
      When there is a person who says me pretty or ugly. I do not care because I have no attachments or aversions with regard to his or her perception !
      And above all, I noticed in life the more focused you are in what you do, you do not have time to go into other people’s affairs or control them.
      And above all, I am hyper selective as a person in the sense that I look at my priorities in life and what I like and I focus on that like everyday.
      And I feel so happy and relaxing at the same time !
      Peace ✌️

    • @EmbraceTheStruggle24
      @EmbraceTheStruggle24 2 месяца назад +2

      Well tbh, I think this is what happened with some of my folks and friends (if you can even call them my folks and friends 🤦‍♂️) but frankly they had a responsibility to be more self aware (though I'm not saying it's always easy) to do what is within moral standards; even if it might've challenged their ego or persona. It probably would humble them to no end if they were to be more like me (humble and grounded 😅 in a not-so totally subjective way) although tbh; sometimes it takes courage as well. And you can't make somebody do or be something they don't want to - if it isn't in their heart. Thus, this is where I believe we should fundamentally be within the notion that social comparison will always be inevitable - as long as you are kind to yourself and not always worrying what others think.

    • @Lolcoca
      @Lolcoca 2 месяца назад +1

      @@EmbraceTheStruggle24
      I think it depends on people’s thoughts. Maybe you expected for those people to love you back or something else . . .
      Well, in my experience, I’m so focused on myself that I don’t have time to compare myself to anyone ! I just talk and stay polite and respectful ! I don’t expect to be love or not to be love.
      I focus on the things I’m passionate about. I don’t have time to go and see how humble this person is or not ! Don’t have time for that 🤣😂🤣😂
      Too much have a great time with myself for all the things I’m passionate about 😍🤩

    • @ValeriePallaoro
      @ValeriePallaoro Месяц назад +1

      don't do that, do do this, don't do that ... a bit prescriptive for having no actual solution to the problem?

  • @markvery65
    @markvery65 14 дней назад +6

    This is basically describing your experience with a narcissist. They are certainly mind numbing.

  • @lawaleto
    @lawaleto 2 месяца назад +51

    "We must sidestep the many dragnets because we have so many other, truly more important things to do." A person who is dysregulated and emotionally hijacked, or temporarily lacking logic, may see your calmness as indifference or even confirmation that they are x (worthless, unwanted, etc.) depending on their critical inner voice. Loving someone who hasn't had the privilege of working on their inner child wounds and adult manifestations of these wounds (undiagnosed mental illness) can be both challenging and rewarding. None of us makes it through the cauldron of childhood unscarred, and I'm grateful to have a partner who loves me despite that.

  • @d0ubtingThom4s
    @d0ubtingThom4s 2 месяца назад +39

    This is true sometimes, but thinking it's always true is an even bigger problem. Sometimes criticism is valid

    • @jn48-sc5ei
      @jn48-sc5ei 2 месяца назад +4

      True. Sometimes this advice works and other times it doesn't. But if you have good judgment, then it's an useful advice. 👌

    • @Novastar.SaberCombat
      @Novastar.SaberCombat 2 месяца назад +2

      It's pretty easy to determine when an individual possesses legitimate knowledge and insight about any given topic. Ultimately, everyone almost always shows their cards after the first 6-12 interactions. And anyone with basic training on recognizing straw mans, slippery slopes, ad hominem, non-sequiturs, and dozens of other fallacious techniques would certainly (well, probably?) agree with me on that.

    • @somnathghoshal103
      @somnathghoshal103 Месяц назад +3

      And valid criticism needs to be framed as such. Even if it's valid and conveyed with aggression it becomes worthless.

    • @iPondR
      @iPondR Месяц назад

      Valid point. But we are talking about someone starting an argument for the sake of it... how often do you do that? Not often I would guess. So why should they? Constructive criticism is rare and doesn't come out of that kind of exchange. Careful who you let in your trusted circle :)

    • @d0ubtingThom4s
      @d0ubtingThom4s Месяц назад

      ​@@iPondR / @somnathghoshal103 the most painful criticism given by your enemy will likely be accurate. It doesn't hurt a skinny person to call them fat. The stronger you are, the better you are at integrating even criticism meant to be destructive. Of course, non-specific criticism i.e. "you're bad" is useless because it's vague, not because it's phrased cruelly.

  • @jjrecon3024
    @jjrecon3024 2 месяца назад +74

    Ppl avoid their own personal hatred for themselves, and then project that hate towards others.
    Someone WITH self-respect would Never behave this way.
    Self Awareness leads us to self-respect, suddenly self-control looks attractive and self-discipline looks like 'a good time'.

    • @fatherburning358
      @fatherburning358 2 месяца назад +3

      Agreed. A place of calm. Observing these behaviours can be quite, interesting 😊

    • @josiee0874
      @josiee0874 2 месяца назад +2

      This does not mean you follow your own advice. Get off your high horse. You both seem to be under the assumption that emotions correlation to instability. However, writing off people's emotions means you are listening to hear but not understand. How lonely.

    • @fatherburning358
      @fatherburning358 2 месяца назад +2

      @@josiee0874 good for you. Taking it all personally. 👍

    • @jjrecon3024
      @jjrecon3024 2 месяца назад +3

      @@josiee0874 perhaps you're in need of self-respect?
      With emotional maturity comes calm effective communication; ... No need to ever catch yourself arguing again... Find your own peace and keep it 🤍

  • @marquis2001
    @marquis2001 Месяц назад +7

    Yes, and. . . . sometimes we can have productive disagreements to better understand one another, the issues, and ourselves. Those interactions, too, are called "arguments." If we refuse to get into those arguments, we miss opportunities for growth, understanding and reflection. Also, as PFB74 implies below, we can sometimes help those we love by hearing out their unresolved arguments, allowing and helping them to work things through, without engaging our inner triggers. I call this "bearing witness" to others. So, to the good advice and clear explanation of this video, we might think about "why we should refuse to get [caught up in fruitless] arguments," while staying alert and engaged when others are trying to connect with us.

  • @niksfloyd
    @niksfloyd 2 месяца назад +39

    I know the solution provided in this video is so hard to follow but I needed this today. Thank you

    • @jasondashney
      @jasondashney 2 месяца назад +1

      The hardest lessons to learn are the ones you already know.

  • @Uncommonsenses
    @Uncommonsenses 23 дня назад +2

    I find putting on my best British accent and calmly informing the argumentative person that I have ‘far more important things to do’ always de-escalates the situation nicely.

  • @beccafranklin6683
    @beccafranklin6683 2 месяца назад +10

    I was caused a scene last weekend because a woman spoke rudely to my disabled child. I was so angry, I tried to calmly explain he didn’t understand. I did expect her to apologise once she realised she had been rude to a disabled child. Instead she told me she works with disabled children and she has plenty of awareness. I certainly didn’t feel any better for speaking up. And now just feel more worried about what carers may be like when I’m not around.

    • @joejones4296
      @joejones4296 Месяц назад +1

      That describes my ex-wife exactly. I tried a thousand ways to make it work. I stopped arguing with her entirely and she divorced me after 32 years of marriage. I went to therapy. She never would. I still go.

    • @Lights_Darks
      @Lights_Darks 18 дней назад +1

      She might’ve been lying about helping disabled children.

    • @thegaspatthegateway
      @thegaspatthegateway 11 дней назад

      I'm sorry the two of you went through that. The indignity of it sounds terrible to bear. I couldn't fathom myself keeping any amount of cool in your situation.
      This has got me really thinking now... that there probably isn't a bedrock depth to the shamelessness and audacity a person may demonstrate, at certain levels of awareness. I suppose it's unavoidable, given that the set of assumptions they live by precludes them from understanding their effect on others-even as their callousness compounds into magnitudes, like so.
      Given also that my last argument had to do with attitudes toward the disabled... I am now seeing the immense value of humility, as a salve and a virtue. As I get more curious about it, I notice it feels like an ice pack over a deep, burning wound on my heart. It's the lack of understanding that makes the wound sting continually, and the more egregious is the aggressor's ignorance, the more violating and personal it can possibly feel. I think... humility might allow me to meaningfully grasp the limitations of people, as they are at certain parts in their story. That way, even when they're _mind-spankingly_ buffoonish... I don't suffer by projecting even further ammunition than they can conceive into their destructive behavior.
      Maybe humility is like a healthy immune system in that way.

  • @potapotapotapotapotapota
    @potapotapotapotapotapota 2 месяца назад +8

    that last sentence really hits the nail on the head, unless you are actively trying to learn the truth arguments are just a waste of your time

  • @bolivar1789
    @bolivar1789 2 месяца назад +41

    1. I once watched a truly heartbreaking documentary about people who cut themselves. They all said more or less the same thing: that the physical pain they felt in that moment gave them a relief from the much more crushing soul pain that they felt non stop in their daily isolation and despair.
    Maybe, the people who get furious at anything are in a similar state of constant sadness and helplessness. It is just that instead of using a knife or a razor, they provoke your anger, so that you shout at them and humiliate them, to give them a relief from themselves. It is a heartbreaking way of trying to be seen and heard. It reminds me of this poem:
    NOT WAVING BUT DROWNING
    Nobody heard him, the dead man,
    But still he lay moaning:
    I was much further out than you thought
    And not waving but drowning.
    Poor chap, he always loved larking
    And now he’s dead
    It must have been too cold for him his heart gave way,
    They said.
    Oh, no no no, it was too cold always
    (Still the dead one lay moaning)
    I was much too far out all my life
    And not waving but drowning.
    2. One thing that helps me in those situations is a very simple question I have heard from Joseph Goldstein. We can ask this to ourselves at any moment throughout the day:
    " Is this thought I am having right now useful??"
    If the person in front of us is mad over nothing and trying to hurt us, of course we will feel offended and triggered. But just asking ourselves if the thoughts that emerge in our minds as a response are "useful" can help us to come back to our senses.
    There are so many, much more important and more beautiful and more helpful things we could be thinking about. Why get caught in this person's private torture chamber? They will find someone else to make them suffer. Sadly...
    3. But if you already feel to offended and you are about to react, there are other ways to deal with it too:
    One of our most beloved poets in Turkey, Orhan Veli, said that whenever he got angry, he counted the names of the flowers he knew, trying to get to a hundred names!!
    It is a terribly romantic idea, but why not try it once??
    I would also highly recommend the method RAIN. It is a type of meditation that you can do easily.
    Just google this : " RAIN Meditation, Diana Winston".
    She has a guided meditation on this, that you can follow. RAIN is an acronym that stands for " Recognise , Allow , Investigate , Nurture " .
    It is an excellent practice that soothes you and clears your mind and helps you to focus on what really matters in life.
    4. There is an excellent psychology podcast called " Shrink Rap Radio". The following episode is full of valuable insights:
    "Managing Anger Through Compassion, with Russel Kolts"
    You can also visit Russel Kolts's website "Compassionate Mind" and click on " Working with anger".
    He says that we are always very kind towards people when they are sad, but we find them appalling when they are angry. What they need the most is compassion though...Because their anger is there to cover their sadness.
    Thank you so much for this very valuable lesson!

    • @moniforlove
      @moniforlove 2 месяца назад +4

      every single Word is so full of love and compassion (not to say mercy..). Thank you so much for this post.. ❤❤❤

    • @bolivar1789
      @bolivar1789 2 месяца назад

      @@moniforloveHello Monika! Oh thank you so much! That means a lot! Much love to you too!🥰😘

    • @Otterworldy
      @Otterworldy 2 месяца назад +2

      I’ve been hurt too many times to implement this. My journey was to find strenght in saying my piece, because that is the sore spot. What you describe are the things I used to do and I boiled over. Respectfully I’am done to see others perspectives and to calm down. It does not serve me, no longer.

    • @josiee0874
      @josiee0874 2 месяца назад +2

      Well said, truly. Compassionate people really color the world.

    • @bolivar1789
      @bolivar1789 2 месяца назад +3

      @@Otterworldy Hello! Oh I I think understand what you mean and you are also right. The advice on this video is very useful for certain situations, where we may have the chance to walk away in order to save time. But if the other person is someone that we have to deal with often, it is better to respond in a way that makes it clear for them, that they can't treat us this way.
      I am very sorry to hear that you have been hurt many times. I hope that from now on, you only come across very kind and understanding people and when it is not the case, you always find the right words to keep those away who intend to hurt you. Much love to you and yours!☺🌷

  • @NidusFormicarum
    @NidusFormicarum 2 месяца назад +12

    Yes. We all need validation, to be seen and listened to. However, when we no longer feel respected it's time to go. When the other party is so arrogant as to think they have a better understanding of matters than we who have lived with our issues for our entire lifes, then there is no respect left in the relationship/friendship.

  • @Sleeame
    @Sleeame 2 месяца назад +29

    the argument trap well avoided

  • @stevenlewis6554
    @stevenlewis6554 2 месяца назад +26

    Holy School of Life! Yet again, I needed to hear this.

  • @chiragrathore
    @chiragrathore 2 месяца назад +10

    A broken person is quick to start an argument. It is reflective of their innate emotional and psychological abnormality.
    However, that being said.
    It takes a lot and a lot of love to tolerate such a person. Because, you have to be a lot and a lot kind. And, it is also unfortunate that your kindness, kind of make them comfortable with repetitiveness of their behavior. You must have to be too loving, in order to give out that love without appreciation or reciprocating of the same.
    At last you dry out by giving and giving.
    There are only 3 options. Which invariably you have to choose from
    1. Keep giving love and have a lot of understanding and kindness.
    2. Leave them.
    3. Physical violence.

    • @jn48-sc5ei
      @jn48-sc5ei 2 месяца назад +2

      I chose option number 1 to take care of my mother until her death. And it was very, very, VERY difficult and painful. But I think it was worth it.
      Thanks for understanding.😊
      Greetings from Chile 🖐🖐

  • @willbanks2085
    @willbanks2085 2 месяца назад +12

    contentious people are energy vampires

  • @maxmouche
    @maxmouche Месяц назад +4

    I once heard you say “expectations are the cause of all anger” and that is the single best piece of behavioural advice I have heard (though surely it had a place in this video too?)

    • @crubin
      @crubin Месяц назад

      well said (or quoted)

    • @ultimobile
      @ultimobile Месяц назад

      aka the Buddhist 'the root of all suffering is desire'

  • @ArshakAndriasov
    @ArshakAndriasov 4 дня назад +1

    Iosif Andriasov Quote: "You should not argue, but seek the truth. Only egotists argue: to avoid wasting time, they provoke."

  • @emoniescanselor8587
    @emoniescanselor8587 2 месяца назад +36

    Wise people don't argue they keep silence and move forward 💯

    • @Optim40
      @Optim40 2 месяца назад +2

      Yea, maturity right there.

    • @Optim40
      @Optim40 Месяц назад

      @TyroneBiggins-tj2ho Grow up kid.

  • @MsGechi77
    @MsGechi77 2 месяца назад +4

    It took me 40 years to realize this. TFS 💖

  • @deannilvalli6579
    @deannilvalli6579 2 месяца назад +4

    I have noticed, over the course of decades, that most people who make aggressive or provacative comments do so not based on any facts, or anythign anyone else did, but because they are unsatisfied with their own life.

  • @Myfreetherapy
    @Myfreetherapy 2 месяца назад

    @TheSchoolOfLife Been watching your videos for years, but this one made me subscribe. Fantastic.

  • @MrProy33
    @MrProy33 Месяц назад +2

    Everything is an argument. Everything.

  • @ClayArnall
    @ClayArnall 2 месяца назад +9

    Kinda sounds like you’re just being avoidant though if you say there’s no functional point to arguments? Sometimes we need conversations to resolve real issues, and that involves debating a little bit.

    • @jasonlee4307
      @jasonlee4307 Месяц назад +8

      This perspective did occur to me as well, however my counter thought was that civil discourse which involves mutual respect and the exchange of potentially differing ideas for the sake of mutual growth and understanding are not the kind of interactions they are referring to in this video.
      Thus, the capability of discerning one from the other, as well as the communication skills to clarify, is and are vitally important.

    • @CH-oy6mq
      @CH-oy6mq Месяц назад

      Resolve whats important, move on if its not. Life is short and our resources are limited

    • @razredge07
      @razredge07 Месяц назад

      If the argument is civil and serves a rational purpose, sure, it's worth the time and effort.
      If starting the argument is for the purpose of emotional regulation, then no. People are not emotional punching bags for the emotionally deregulated.

  • @Leo-mr1qz
    @Leo-mr1qz 2 месяца назад +3

    Basic principles of projection.
    As the world turns, and our morals and values go up in flames, people get more and more angry, irritated, upset for no reason, and more than likely put it off on you. 💔

  • @tenfootalice
    @tenfootalice 2 месяца назад +10

    How do you distinguish between a scenario where someone is 'needlessly' creating conflict and one where someone has an emotive, yet genuine grievance to air that necessarily requires the attention of the 'target'? Or is the hypothesis here that they are the same thing?

    • @sincevon
      @sincevon 2 месяца назад +5

      I was wondering the same thing. What if the other person actually has a very good and fair reason to start an argument...

    • @iLoveToBeM3
      @iLoveToBeM3 Месяц назад

      There’s a difference between arguing and dialog

    • @tenfootalice
      @tenfootalice Месяц назад +1

      Yes, but where is the distinguishing line between dialogue and argument? Is it an argument if one person confronts another? And if so, do situations not exist when it is necessary to confront a wrong-doer, for example?

  • @TakeMeToYourLida
    @TakeMeToYourLida 26 дней назад +2

    This is one reason narcissists are intolerable, and why in the end the only answer that works is no contact

  • @fortissimoX
    @fortissimoX 2 месяца назад +4

    Good video which unfortunately doesn't give the best recipe for practicing this kind of approach and that is compassion.
    Only through compassion, by truly understanding that other person has some issues which makes them feel and behave that way, we can honestly let go of any anger towards them.
    Otherwise, if we go away from argument, but still keep angry emotions inside us, we haven't really done much good in the long term.

  • @-skyandrainbows
    @-skyandrainbows 2 месяца назад +15

    Choose your battles carefully ❤

  • @lydialutz
    @lydialutz Месяц назад

    I like healthy debate and I like to work through issues, so that leads to me being drawn into unhealthy arguments as well. Thank you for this video. The perspective that arguments are an attempt by the other party to rescue themselves from unbearable feelings really makes a lot of sense.

  • @Novastar.SaberCombat
    @Novastar.SaberCombat 2 месяца назад +2

    Huge difference between a "discussion with a fellow intelligent, insightful human who differs in opinions" and... whatever it is happens on social media. 🙄 HUGE.

  • @vivianhudacek1556
    @vivianhudacek1556 Месяц назад

    Excellent advice! Thank so much!

  • @MissFoxification
    @MissFoxification 2 месяца назад +3

    Treat interactions like you should do games, if it irritates you, stop playing.
    You can engage with a person who is angry without descending to their level as well, keep in mind that none of it matters, it's just not important. If you they insult you that doesn't matter either, you don't need to compete, there is no win to be had.

  • @satthiru8133
    @satthiru8133 6 дней назад

    I freaking needed this video today.

  • @iPondR
    @iPondR Месяц назад +1

    Being lured into argument is often a trap to manipulate you and weaken your position (i.e. "if you lose it - you lose") - don't play - walk away.

  • @jamiepearson9652
    @jamiepearson9652 2 месяца назад +2

    Once again, with great effectiveness, SOL is spot on! Amazing work!

  • @abulka
    @abulka Месяц назад +1

    Narcissists start arguments like this.

  • @johnsmall2258
    @johnsmall2258 Месяц назад +1

    Things learnt over the years...
    Never use 'why' and 'but' during arguments. 'Why' is an accusatory question as well be a lazy one, it is also a childs method of arguing. 'But' devalues any any statement or answer. Keep these two words our of any heated conversation and it probably won't turn into an argument.

  • @fifikusz
    @fifikusz 2 месяца назад +1

    Just what I needed today....

  • @aaronchapin9331
    @aaronchapin9331 Месяц назад +3

    Terrific advice: avoid any inputs that conflict with one's existing conclusions. Perfect recipe for living inside an echo chamber

  • @aniruddhasoman2654
    @aniruddhasoman2654 9 дней назад

    Well narrated and focused. Great

  • @PaulRWorthington
    @PaulRWorthington 2 месяца назад +16

    What I am finding more tiring lately are those who argue but insist they are not.
    Especially Online: In discussion groups where I post a fact or opinion, someone argues with that in a comment - which is great! - but if I respond to their argument, they try to claim the moral high ground and state they “weren't looking for an argument.”
    Nah… When you see someone's post, you have three choices: ignore it, agree with it, or argue with it.
    If you post a rebuttal, you don't have the right to have your rebuttal stand as the last word, invulnerable against any response from the original poster.
    If you start a discussion, expect others to engage with you.
    If you want to back out or stay silent, fine, do so - but don’t suddenly act as if you have the right to argue but everyone else is being rude or something just because they reply to your argument.

    • @josiee0874
      @josiee0874 2 месяца назад

      You could have also chosen to ignore it...

    • @JLakis
      @JLakis 2 месяца назад

      Perhaps it's more useful to frame what you are calling "argument" as "debate." Although "argument" is a legal term (eg "opening arguments"), but when others discuss view points or positions on ideas or issue "debate" is healthy. While "argument" makes me think of a Monty Python sketch.

    • @insankamil2909
      @insankamil2909 2 месяца назад

      in debat and negosiation, anger and maybe some rude action like hit the tablet, pointing, adhominem, insulting, or some made-up generalization/assumption, etc are acceptable. those're called assertion.
      those may be made people lose respect at you

  • @EyeHeru
    @EyeHeru 8 дней назад

    “Solitude to improve was a power move.
    Judgment cuz they don’t get how a ___ move.
    Now they rude is it true what u amplify.
    Most times a reflection of what’s deep inside?“

  • @Tailspin80
    @Tailspin80 7 дней назад

    I like a good argument. It forces you to find out stuff you didn’t know and check your preconceptions. Often you learn new things. That’s why I join in the comments on RUclips.

  • @enbuchwald
    @enbuchwald 2 месяца назад +5

    In the words of the titled book, which contains so much wisdom within its title, “Don’t Sweat The Small Stuff, It’s ALL SMALL STUFF.” For that’s exactly, what much of all our life’s are all about. Don’t let the idiots in your life, occupy free rent space in your brain, immediately evict!

    • @tonifitzhugh2423
      @tonifitzhugh2423 2 месяца назад

      Old book, good reading !! 😊

    • @JLakis
      @JLakis 2 месяца назад

      Are there untitled books?

  • @PhingChov
    @PhingChov Месяц назад +1

    It takes too much energy to be nice all the time. I’m tired of being bullied by everyone because I’m too nice. I will not back down

  • @HeyCoachBarbara
    @HeyCoachBarbara 7 дней назад

    So much else that needs our attention…❤️

  • @metsrus
    @metsrus Месяц назад +1

    Socrates tells us there is nothing wrong with argumenting or debating if both parties value the truth and seeking the truth through logical reasoning. Sometimes you can pick up things and learn from others if they present you with ideas you've never known before. Or even learn to develop empathy by seeing things from their point of view. Pride/ego is the enemy. If trying to win an argument or changing other people's mind is your ultimate objective, then you might be doing it for the wrong reason.

  • @craigmerkey8518
    @craigmerkey8518 2 месяца назад +1

    Amazing! I learned this as a young young chid! It isn't about you because it is about them!

  • @aldelgado9343
    @aldelgado9343 2 месяца назад +11

    I dont like to argue but i like to have a point of view, but you can only acomplish that with being very insightfull and well read.

    • @a.l.6176
      @a.l.6176 2 месяца назад +5

      I like not having to have an opinion on everything.

    • @tinalaursen8993
      @tinalaursen8993 2 месяца назад +13

      ​@@a.l.6176it's a relief to be able to say "I don't know." and even more to say "I don't care." 😑

  • @Beebsentrance
    @Beebsentrance Месяц назад

    Thanis for the beautiful reminder ❤

  • @Bezao3003
    @Bezao3003 2 месяца назад

    You guys!!! Amazing.

  • @martinsgiroux
    @martinsgiroux Месяц назад

    Thank you!

  • @erinsuzy613
    @erinsuzy613 2 месяца назад +4

    There is a really good movie from like 2007 called "What the bleep do we know" that explains how people get addicted to drama. I wish it was kid friendly because the animations are good but there is one bad scene in it.

  • @mate_wacha
    @mate_wacha 18 дней назад +1

    Thanks

  • @RicardodeAbreu
    @RicardodeAbreu Месяц назад

    this video was so important to me, I feel I'm having to live with a combatant person sometimes and this helps me clarify what I should be doing instead.

  • @TheTrueKailash
    @TheTrueKailash 2 месяца назад +2

    this is good advice

  • @AliceP.
    @AliceP. Месяц назад

    I've been living this philosophy kind of intuitively, as conflict makes me so uncomfortable that I rather wish I were more aggressive. The thing is that this video only addresses people starting some sort of meaningless fuss, whereas in real life there are situations that you do need to engage because a matter needs solutions, because they did something wrong in the workplace or something needs to be discussed. And then, no matter how much you try to be polite and civil - they won't return it. They will take it like you're the enemy.

  • @wanderlking8634
    @wanderlking8634 28 дней назад

    I have heard that the best way to respond to a person espousing something you disagree with or misinformation is a short, civil reply and then to move on. Even if they reply to you with further misinformation you don't reply further. Why this works: It establishes an alternative to the misinformation in the eyes of a 3rd party without creating polarizing effects where people may be turned off/rebel against your position.

  • @ankitsharma00014
    @ankitsharma00014 Месяц назад

    Great video. Tysm.❤👍

  • @MichaelToub
    @MichaelToub Месяц назад

    Great Video!

  • @Syco108
    @Syco108 2 месяца назад +1

    I shall try to take this advise

  • @CaiusV.
    @CaiusV. 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you ❤

  • @shaunehuolohan5736
    @shaunehuolohan5736 2 месяца назад +2

    You can see this in countries, attitudes and actions.

  • @nyambe
    @nyambe 11 дней назад

    So true! Don’t let air 50 years to learn this lesson

  • @krishnayedage4209
    @krishnayedage4209 2 месяца назад +2

    Thank you

  • @fatherburning358
    @fatherburning358 2 месяца назад +2

    Many of the comments here are expressing the very essence of my recent experiences in a classroom environment. Motivations behind behaviours. Self awareness of my own motivations opened my eyes.
    Now, if only i can control myself better.....🤔🤣

  • @demonicsweaters
    @demonicsweaters 2 месяца назад +1

    Thankfully I leaned this many years ago. I never participate in arguments.

  • @Always_a_Duelist
    @Always_a_Duelist 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank You. 👌

  • @collective_tarot
    @collective_tarot 2 месяца назад

    THANKS ALAN!!!❤

  • @siani3726
    @siani3726 Месяц назад

    Everything in context….. a lot of people who avoid arguments are angry inside… filled with rage - abusive even.
    I agree with the video that the overly argumentative ones are broken inside and chaos is their norm- some are immeasurably skilled at pulling you in…. And sometimes you just have to fight back- and win!

  • @7350652
    @7350652 Месяц назад

    thanks

  • @L6FT
    @L6FT Месяц назад

    Guard your energy.

  • @stevosd60
    @stevosd60 14 дней назад

    Brilliant 👍

  • @zpinn8242
    @zpinn8242 Месяц назад

    While ignoring arguments can provide a peaceful state of mind, doing it profusely could also bring one into complacency and hand-waving of important issues.
    The video is beautifully worded though. Almost poetic.

  • @Robert-yc9ql
    @Robert-yc9ql 2 месяца назад +1

    Nicely done. 😊

  • @markhuru
    @markhuru Месяц назад +1

    In reality the universe is like newtons law of opposing forces, it is true even in will. Most conversations, one party will pick the opposite side of the topic, no matter it being right or wrong. It’s as if we do not mentally think of a response conversely thru, and automatically disagree. Deeper down it is more interesting than to just agree.
    If there is any ill will in the response,one may be having a bad day or other trauma there is an automatic opposite reaction. Conversely an opposite reaction can be taken as an affront to original conversationalist , escalating the situation causing anger or a feeling of betrayal. Most individuals have a strong sense of survivalism and protect their opinions, as if life depends upon it. This all stems from our psyche. Understanding the WHY we get into arguments is important and is a better deterrent than just agreeing to disagree.

  • @Calidore1
    @Calidore1 Месяц назад

    Incredible timing! I'm going to say nothing back.

  • @andresd6193
    @andresd6193 Месяц назад

    You got to pick your battles, sometimes arguments are necessary, but most of the time they are not.

  • @rbfreitas
    @rbfreitas Месяц назад

    Great video

  • @jesuspublic7561
    @jesuspublic7561 8 дней назад

    Good god,you guys have hit it dead on the mark. Well done. Now the question is how?

  • @andrewkwasek1214
    @andrewkwasek1214 Месяц назад

    Sometimes yes, sometimes no. There are times when the argument originats from a place of them having "unberably difficult feelings" or whatever you said. But odds are those feelings are not just coming out of the blue and you have some part in them. Its not as if everytime a person has an argument with me that its entierly their fault cuz im just floating on a blisful could of perfection. I got my faults that are likely to annoy some and ruffle their feathers. If i do irritate someone and an argument foarms, i can 100% promise you that pitying the person you pissed off will only make the situation worse. Be humble and patient and hear them out.

  • @theboombody
    @theboombody 10 дней назад

    There are some things I take on axiom. Once someone disagrees with that, I see no point in arguing further. Or if the only thing I can do is continue to repeat myself, there's also no point in arguing further.

  • @Eng_Simoes
    @Eng_Simoes Месяц назад

    Arguing is the fight of the powerless. Emperors never argue.

  • @randatatang9222
    @randatatang9222 Месяц назад

    As someone who loves and promotes interlectual engagements and debates, the title should have read: Why we should refuse to get into QUARELS. When some people say they don't like arguments, what they really mean is that they can't stand their ideas being challenged. If you challenge them on something, they label you as argumentative. However as someone who is very agreable in temperament, I believe it's very possible to love discourse and not be quarrelsome.

  • @pamelatorres156
    @pamelatorres156 2 месяца назад +3

    Too many people want to vent towards us as a form of sick self gratification. It makes me want to stay home and to never interact with people again. EVER.

  • @josephbelisle5792
    @josephbelisle5792 Месяц назад

    If life and social interactions were that simple. Arguments are not intrinsically bad. They are often necessary to shake people awake. I know Ive needed someone to start an argument with me to raise my awareness many times.

  • @isheetampancholi4197
    @isheetampancholi4197 Месяц назад +1

    :) Thank you # School of Life Thank you

  • @malikwaqas2224
    @malikwaqas2224 10 дней назад

    100% true