Mike Florio: 2024 is a Make or Break Season for Saints QB Derek Carr | NFL on NBC Reaction Video
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- Is it make or break time for Derek Carr in New Orleans? In this video James Skrmetta discusses Saints QB Derek Carr and his future with the New Orleans Saints. Mike Florio and Myles Simmons lay out expectations for Derek Carr in his second season in New Orleans and indicate why if he doesn’t perform at a high level, it could be the end of the road.
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I hung out with Derek the summer that he joined the Saints and have followed him as a Raider fan. He is always the same, he says "put it all on me" all the time.
First of all, that’s not how he behaved last year. He’s a grown man stealing $150M from the Saints, and he threw two year old tantrums and called out other players all year.
Second of all, you can’t say “Yeah, it’s all on me,” unless you can produce. Maybe Brees or Brady could get away with that bravado, but not the Carr Brother.
Third of all, Brees, Brady, etc would never say, or think, it’s all on them. The Greats know it’s never “all on them.” That’s a huge insult to every other player and coach on the team.
They may say “That WAS all on me,” after a shitty game (instead of ranting about their teammate not catching a ball thrown twenty feet over their head and ten yards out of bounds).
But never pre-game or pre-season. It’s a condescending, disrespectful thing to say. He needs to worry about just stumbling through his job.
Yeah,and who says he has to act like it when he does especially when he has a little trouble.There will only be one #9🐐
The way he handled the Henry Ruggs situation…. I like Derek as a human being. And he’s not complete garbage. I’ve seen him take on a lot of responsibility when he was with the raiders and I respect it. I didn’t like how he handled a lot of stuff last season tho. And it may have been fatigue and just dealing with folks in the city. That ain’t easy. He’s not complete garbage like I may have said during the season (I want to win dammit and sometimes I lash out) but he needs to grow some skin. He’s been accused of crying on the field after a sack. Then his family on Twitter shows why he’s like that with all the comments and blocks
If Kubiak’s system is anything like I hope it’ll be, he’ll play great. I just want him to take responsibility. Don’t throw teammates under the bus. And when you’re hurt, sit down
I’m cautiously optimistic 😂
Good shit. I don’t think people realize that he’s never had a steady coaching situation nor a good OL. For him to say “it’s on me” shows a high level of integrity.
…. He certainly didn’t say that after he threw a pick 6 to Jessie Bates and went 0/5 in the red zone in the first Atlanta game.
Regardless, at some point the empty “put it on me” platitudes aren’t enough and we have to have actual on field results.
I think Derek's a fine quarterback in a fine human being I think this year will be successful for the Saints Derek Carr as their quarterback
It's crazy they send these guys out to do this stuff. Reporters ask the dumbest questions. Analysts talk about the most pointless stuff. You make actual realistic points and make listening to media about my favorite sports club worthwhile. Listening to corporate media is impossible
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The Carr hate is always unjustified. No facts just hate. The man was no worse than 13th in any given QB stat he had a better completion percentage than Mahommes. I am not saying he is fantastic but above average for sure.
How about his RedZone percentage? And turning the ball over 2-4 times a game? He lead the League in fumbles and that's nothing new...
That's 14-28 pts he leaves off the board every game just off turn overs that's not even counting him freezing up in the RedZone
@@israeldoe8000
He doesn't turn the ball over "2-4 times a game". He turned the ball over 11 times in the 2023 season. That averages to fewer than once a game (11 times divided by 17 games).
WHODATT tell it like it is
The Carr hate is absolutely justified by what he does on the field combined with his behavior post game. Other than his play, Carr is exactly what you want as far as the way he behaves off the field, his toughness and when things are going his way but the measure of a man is how he deals with adversity and Carr cracks in the moment then carries his happy ass to the podium talking about positivity and giving motivational speaker affirmations. It's condescending, it does come off as fake and pisses people off, especially when you do it right after a loss. If he wins, all of the hate goes away.
James good to hear your opinion. Unfortunately Mike Fiorio is a clown hates Derek Carr and it is obvious.
I have to check these big media fellas who don't know nothing
"Pushing down old ladies". That was a good one.🤣🤣🤣
Bro derek had a solid season bottom line . . The year before Dalton threw for 1,007 less passing yds than Carr did in 2023 and Derek threw for 7 more passing tds than our last QB1 . I’m all in on derek right now and say upside in him and bringing kubiak to nola will only help improve the veteran we have at QB 💪 Who Dat Say !
Who Dat!
@@LouisWinthorpe3 saints fans are clueless and blinded by nostalgia
Look at it this way if Carr even finishes the games he got knocked out of he throws for over 4000 yards. The Carmichael offense was bad and everyone agrees on that.
Unfortunately, you can’t listen to anything Florio says, because of his distain towards Derek Carr, along with Josh Dubow, half of raider fans, and half of Saints, Twitter, who ultimately just thrashed the dude, car has a bad image because of the disarray with the Raiders organization throughout his career he would’ve been much off and looked at more positively if he got drafted by a team that had any semblance of stability
Reid wanted to draft him, but KC's GM at the time wouldn't do it bc they had just signed Alex Smith to a big contract.
As a Raiders fan, I'm glad Reid didn't get his way, or else I would hate Carr as much as I do Mahomes right now 😂
Him with Reids genius and KC's roster would be a scary combo.
Carr hasn't been lucky enough to land with a great HC or OC yet, and has had terrible rosters most of his career. That could all change tho if Kubiak pans out.
End of the season he was balling and that game vs the jags he was really good Bt the te dropped the ball
I remember a game many years ago where Eli Manning whacked his teammate on the shoulders he was so mad at him. Everyone said oh he’s being a good leader, etc.
Winning solves everything
He’s not Bree’s never will be Bree’s an he knows that he said he’s not coming here to be Bree’s he’s not here to replace Bree’s hes himself an he’s here to win
Seems like we should’ve got someone more like Brees
@@geoffhoutman1557who is like brees today brees is 1 of 1 there is no one with his work ethic leadership an poiise today
@@teddrickhargrave Mahomes?
@@geoffhoutman1557 so the best quarter back in the league and who is on pace to be a first ballet hall of famer. Ya yiu could say that and just like drew brees was at is 1 of 1 in his own right
Carr has been putting up top 10 passing stats year in year out while the run game has been mid to bottom 10, the defense was always ranked at the bottom while he was with the raiders, the saints had a top 10 pass defense but bottom 10 run defense. Got to have a balanced team, blaming carr for a teams overall success is so stupid and lazy. Put any of the "elite" qbs on any team with a bottom 10 defense and mid to bottom 10 run game I guarantee they wont have success. History proves im right the proof is there. Rodgers, brees, when they had bottom 10 defenses and rushing offense they had losing seasons and made the playoffs just as much as carr has when he had that on his teams.
Honestly dont care what they have to say about carr ive been watching him since he was drafted and i liked his brother when he was drafted derek is a leader great qb ive been wanting to see him run a payton manning offense he great pre snap changing his own plays and reading defenses and has a high football iq
I know u did not just say derek carr is a great QB LMAOOOO no way lol
Yes i did say great if he had a top 20 def at least those years with the raiders he would have had more wins honestly hes never had a top 20 def till now every qb needs help even patrick mahomes, and tom brady not saying hes them but even they need help
@@joefel5795 stop it.
Carr is as real as we see him and he is a men of faith, great preacher and great teammate, anyone who played with him at Raiders respect him
You left “great QB” off the list.
Seems pretty important to me
@@geoffhoutman1557 my respond was to the question if Derek Carr is faking his personality, but yes he is a great QB and with good coach he can win a lot of games for us. Kubiak will improve Derek’s performance
Here’s the MAIN issue & conflict between people who defend Derek Carr (Stans) & people who hate Derek Carr (morons).
MORE than ANY other QB, the perception of Derek Carr does NOT match the expectations for Derek Carr.
Let me explain, most people in the Media & many fan’s believe Derek Carr is an “Average QB” & ranked somewhere around “the 15th to 17th best QB”.
That’s the perception.
However, the expectation is that Derek Carr plays like a Top 5 to Top 10 QB to not be considered “Below Average” or a “Disappointment”.
Don’t believe me?
In Derek Carr’s 1st season with the Saints, considered by many and everyone who thinks Carr is Average, as a “disappointing season” and “Carr didn’t play his best football all season”.
This may be true, however, here’s the problem, the Saints scoring offense with Carr improved from 22nd to 9th, while the passing offense improved from 16th to 11th in Passing yards and improved from 16th to 8th in passing TDs.
They were Top 6 for fewest INTs.
The Saints finished 9-8 on the season, tied for the 13th best win %, with a Top 8 points differential.
The ONLY way those results are disappointing is if you are expecting “Top 5 QB play from Derek Carr”.
If you’re expecting “Top 10 play from Derek Carr”, it’s borderline “meeting expectations”.
If you’re expecting Top 15 play from Derek Carr, he wildly OUTPERFORMED expectations!
This is the hypocrisy & contradiction that’s at the heart of the frustration from people who defend Derek Carr.
It’s also why people call Derek Carr defenders “Stans”, because I can see how it can come off that way, when you’re defending something, where the criticism is so biased and logically inconsistent!
If people who criticized Carr said “he’s a Top 10 QB” & that it’s disappointing he only played like the 12th best QB, that would be logical and fair.
You had expectations of a certain level of play and he fell short.
Perfectly reasonable.
However, when the people who criticize Carr say “he’s the 15th best QB & he’s the 14th highest paid QB and he was disappointing”, when he played like, at the very least, the 12th best QB, by all the data, it sounds completely absurd!
The perception of Derek Carr doesn’t match the expectations of Derek Carr.
Derek Carr has to do ridiculously “heroic feats” to just obtain the perception that he’s “above Average”, like go 12-3, get MVP votes, set still standing NFL records or get a team who’s Head Coach resigned Week 5, & their WR1 killed a woman and her dog on the bye week to the playoffs, which had never been done before.
If he ever falls short of Top 10 QB play, he’s treated like the 28th best QB, it makes no sense!
But the REALITY is that he’s mid af.
11 or so years of proof on that one.
Florio is a known carr hater lol, but even if he wasnt his takes show he doesnt even watch the games
Derek Carr has played for 7 different coaches in his 10 year career ADDITIONALLY, has had bad offensive lines. IDK why people don’t bring this up?
10:10 - 10:40 James is spitting facts. You can say he objectively is missing a key component or two but you can say that about so many quarterbacks. The thing is, you don’t see that. An unreasonable amount of people speak so negatively about him yet he’s better than at least the half the quarterbacks in the league. Y’all need to look inward. Also, Florio is a jerk (that’s obvious). The other dude is trying to disagree with Florio the best he can without losing his job!
The other fella might need to update his resume soon
@@JamesSkrmetta mannn, that might be a blessing in disguise. Florio is washed.
Man only been here 1 yr damn
Florio is a weird version of passive aggressive. Him and carrs personalities just DO NOT mix 😂😂
Florio is an interesting dude for sure
The saints already had ah top 10-12 defense.If the offense can score 23 points ah game floor 9 wins ceiling 11.In my opinion.
Once again awesome video glad I found your channel I to am a huge Saints fan
Thanks for watching!
AND INJURED TWICE AND FINISHED SEASON STRONG
Basically Carr is a veteran who is average at best ! So where does that get the saints .. 1 playoff game ? How many excuses is he gonna get
Uh no, average is his floor. Outside of his rookie season, the worst he's ever been graded was 17th, and that was once. Every other season he graded between being the 11th best QB and the 6th best QB. So he's been nearly or arguably elite at his best, while being average at his absolute worst.
If Kubiak is decent and the OL manages to not be completely terrible, then I would expect Carr to have another pro bowl level season this year. He knows his WR's (a luxury he didn't get very often with Raiders), and will be running a system similar to the one he ran with Gruden.....where he played much better than what he gets credit for, bc the team didn't do well (teams that give up 30+ PPG on defense tend not to).
You’re looking rankings!! I’m saying what has he done in the last ten years ? What’s makes you thinks he is a Super Bowl quarterback?
This year he gets the “new scheme, new OC” excuse. Yet again.
Team as whole on offensive side of the ball has to improve and then the QB1 will succeed I guarantee it
Offense will be much better under Kubiak.
Carr is 2-0 against Drew Brees if that means anything to yall.
It doesn’t😂😂
@@LakersFan24100 great thanks for sharing
I definitely feel like if the O- line can give him more time like they did for the last 5 games or so and if Carr plays like he did for the last 5 games or so then we should be well into the mix this year. I thought he looked pretty damn good during the last part of the season last year. I hope we see more of that and I definitely hope we see more of Taysom as well. I can’t wait to see how Kubiak uses him.
Kubiak is a huge bonus for the entire offense
Carr is ten times the man most of these guys bashing him think they are. The absolute facts are Carr gets his most hate for proclaiming to be a Christian and coming off as soft. People find a way to hate on so called do-gooders. The funny thing is when you ask players that have played with Carr they all say he’s a great leader and guy. Amari Cooper was asked last year who his favorite guy he ever played with was he said Carr but if you heard the garbage coming out of the media when Cooper got traded from the Raiders they all said Cooper hated Carr.
I hate just calling him a phony without real reason. I hate thay sort of gossipy stuff in general that can tear down someone's reputation for nothing, basically.
Imo Carr is capable. We were spoiled after having Brees for so long so we have these huge expectations that *very* few people could realistically fill. Now, Carr did have some issues this past season with the red zone stuff in the middle of the season. The injuries may have played a role. But that issue was resolved. What matters going into a new season more than the middle of the last season is the end of last season, since that is where you're building from imo.
I'd rather Carr rest up after an injury than go out there and only be at like 60% or something, so hopefully with the competition we've got we have a capable backup QB in case he gets hurt again.
I don't hate anybody, but Florio is high on my list of dislikes.
Carr is a smooth talker. I believe he has athletic ability and talent. Derek hasn't shown the leadership we expect in a franchise QB, but apparently, we're giving him a pass until he runs out of excuses. I'd love to see him have a pro bowl season, play efficiently, and get us to the playoffs. That would go a long way in shutting up us critiques and extending his career. I hope that year 11 might finally be his year. But time will tell. The experts have the over/under at 7.5. I'm not willing to bet the over yet.
Florio= bum.
Look I agree with the carr hate but he truly doesn't deserve the amount of hate that this man gets. You guys have to understand that he was playing with a makeshift offensive line with a bad offensive scheme that was archaic while being down in most of these games. Trying to make things happen. You're going to throw picks. You're gonna have turnovers. That's the inevitable. Let give the man a chance.
Derek Carr has played for 7 different coaches in his 10 year career ADDITIONALLY, has had bad offensive lines. IDK why people don’t bring this up?
11 years of chances. Wayyyy more than most players get
Derek is here to win the division and compete for a SB if you ask the Saints, The fans know barring injuries Saints are outside playoffs again with last minute late season push
Saints can win the division this year
@JamesSkrmetta I agree but is that more because the Saints are good or the division is "bad"? We just need to rebuild feel like they are prolonging the inevitable, We're not winning anything worth hanging our hat on because of Derek
Derek Carr has landed in two garbage teams. 10 years with the Raiders 6 coaches because of the Davis family and the worst defense in the NFL. NOW he comes to the Saints and although they have a good defense their offensive line is shaky and they have all rookie receivers because Glassman Thomas is never healed and Olave is just stepping up. Kamara had less than 700 yards and Hill kept getting injured. There were 5 touchdown drops in games that really matter. The ball hit the players right in their hands and right in the helmet. Those games were less than seven points. The Saints could have been 12-5, y'all are doing the wrong math. 😂😂😂
Cant be make or break when you have him for 2 more years. Then, you want to give him at least 2 years woth oc. Whats the logic?
We don't have him for 2 more years with the way the contract is structured. After this year, it's up to the team on a year-by-year basis.
Carr never did that before. You won’t see it again
They're acting like Carr was walking up to the podium and talking shit about his teammates. I don't care if they argue a little on the field.
Big same
75% of the "Fans" here who "support" Carr are just Raider fans who've followed him here. Ask fans of other teams around the NFL what they think of Carr....and you'll be surprised at how many would say "NO Thanks" at the opportunity to sign him.
Until derek shows more than the singular year he had under gruden then he is what hes been showing.
@@LouisWinthorpe3 okay we're not going to use pro bowls as something special here. Will you sing plenty of situations where people just needed a fill in.
Statistically his best season was under Jon gruden. And I need more than one of those type of years from him
It does seem personal with Florio regarding Carr. Carr is Cousins Light, Kirk beat Saints in dome vs #9. Carr did surprise me with his toughness though
Carr beat Saints with #9 in the dome too, twice if I'm not mistaken.
Cousins is Carr light. I've watched both QBs closely, and Carr is easily more accurate, has the better arm, and a much stronger arm.
The only reason cousins is currently looked at like he's a better QB then Carr is bc he had elite weapons in Minnesota......whereas Carr went from having the worst HC in NFL history in '22 to having the worst OC in NFL history in '23.
If Saints OL can manage to be decent, I think the they go on a run that lasts several seasons. They have all the ingredients outside of OL.
I also think Carr plays much longer in NO then 2 years. I think he eventually retires a Saint, with at least one ring and a much different rep then he has right now. All he's needed his entire career was stability and talent around him.....like literally every successful QB. Saints had to get a new OC, but Carr should play at a high level this season anyway.
If Derek doesn't get hurt in the Green Bay game and Jameis Winston could have closed it out 17 to nothing lead at halftime comedy would have made the playoffs
Yep. Would've been a 10-win division champion playoff team
You don't have to be a genius .look who is carrs head coach.carr is average
Derek has landed in two garbage ass teams. The Raiders were the top 10 worst defensive teams in the league. The Saints although they have a good defense their offensive line sucks, and last year all they had was rookie receivers because Glassman Thomas was always injured. Do you watch football or are you just a keyboard warrior 😂
9:10 has never won a playoff game.
Vgp
To be honest I have no faith in the Saints anymore and I also think the Kubiak system is not gonna work with a O-Line and QB like Carr
Saints will be much improved on offense.
I hear Mickey’s voice - I hear ALL 🧢
I love your videos. You keep it trill. And even if it’s not your purpose, you’re funny as hell 😂 I’m glad you’re a realist and a fan of my squads as well
Hopefully the front offices get it together so those shrimp baskets won’t be in vain 😂 keep doing what you do
I mean the perspective that you give on the Saints’ being “awful” is 9-8 is refreshing and I know I’ve gone off the deep end 😂
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I agree Carr is average but Florio has some merit in how the personality matters, for his team mates to go to war with him, they have to belive in him or they won't go ALL IN when it matters
I have to be honest and I view Carr the same way as Florio does this is just my opinion but I kind of see through what appears to me be his act 🎬 his game all his patterns everything im sorry I know there are many of his fan club that will stay witn him regardless! I truly see Carr as putting on a show and he knows when, what to say and what to do ,and when to do it he pulls his fan club in to ride with him regardless. The horrible thing is us as saints fans are wasting our time money and investments along with the players wasting their time health and contracts we need to be real about our situation especially the one Derek Carrs friend and prior head coach who drafted him put us in and its not the best situation to win but the best situation for them ! We are caught up in the same game Derek Carr ran in Oakland which had them stuck for so long smh!
Amen. Derek Carr is too coddled by his support system (unfortunately headed by Dennis Allen), and he just can't find the way to take his game to a higher level. He spend his whole career waiting for everything around him to click into place. I've been there in aspects of my life, I'm sure many people can relate. But the answer is never for external things to change to fit you, it is to let go of your way of thinking and let life show you the way to get better.
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@lewistangi8004 awesome response your absolutely right that's why the best situation for would have been to actually put pressure on him to perform but he can't because as you said he's being coddled and protected. The 2023 draft Dennis Allen should have drafted Hendon Hooker and properly set us up for success as fans, players on the teams and securing our future! It's the same formula that the Detroit Lions, Pittsburgh steelers, Atlanta Falcons and other teams are doing with their starting QB and the back up ensuring that they are successful at this position and investing properly to find their QB this is what needs to be done to be successful in today's NFL! It's obvious that Dennis Allen and Mickey Loomis have been making decisions to comfort Carr and putting all their chips on him when everyone already knows what both him and Dennis Allen are !
Florio wasting time with this - we know we have mid 🤷🏾♂️
Carr is above average,I bet the front office thinks so too.Why don’t you try out you could take his job right?
@@davidsellers3639 it’s just my opinion - based off his now 10 year career, along with this career record…
So tell me what makes him above average. But first, put the shrooms down…
@@BrentonBannister-gc2pt I think carr is both mid and above average(givin that mid is the middle of the pack) Hes very inconsistent. Yet so was his last team. The raider as a team has been one of the most dysfunctional teams in the nfl and with carr being *mid* ofc hes not gonna have success when hes getting coach after coach. Thats y gruden was so important cause he actually stayed and stared his own thing there and it made carr and the raiders better every year. Then mcdaniels comes and just turns the raiders into the patriots and blamed it all on carr. So carr is mid but he def can play like top 10 qb during games. Thats just what i think and see.
@@BrentonBannister-gc2pt1st off, only casual fans think QBs have records. Why? Bc literally any QB will have 4 or less wins if given a practice squad roster and bad coaching. Hell Brees had SP and still went 7-9 three years in a row.
Funny thing is, those defenses that Saints had from '14-'16, still weren't as bad as Carrs AVERAGE defense with the Raiders. So if Brees couldn't win with a defense that bad, how could any QB?
2nd. Carr has 4 pro bowls, and managed to win the accuracy competition vs all the other pro bowl QBs.....proving w/o a doubt that he belonged.
The only reason Carr hasn't been more successful and consistent in his career is bc the Raiders were a terrible team that kept bringing in new coaches. They couldn't draft, so the roster sucked. They only reason they were ever competitive was bc of a top 10 pass game. That's it. Unfortunately Carr had 5 different OC's with the Raiders, meaning stability was out the window. QBs who land with great HC's or OC's don't have to deal with that (coincidentally those QBs tend to be the most successful too). Instability + bad drafting = losing, no matter who the QB is. That's a fact.
If Kubiak is decent and the OL can manage to not be terrible, then Carrs reputation is about to do a complete 180.....bc Saints will be a powerhouse, and Carr will put up monster stats.
@BrentonBannister-gc2pt carr has been consistently putting up top 10 passing stats every season, while the run game has been mid to bottom 10 only once or twice was a top 10 rush offense, defense has also been bad always bottom 10 against the run and pass , this 1 season with the saints is the only time the defense had a top10 pass defense. Got to have a balanced team all the superbowl contenders do. Carr has always been the positive thing on horrible teams that's a fact.
20:40. When Carr was pissed at Olave when he stopped running on the go route, that was 100% Carr's fault. Olave's route was a clear out route and he did his job. Carr should have hit Taysom on the out route, but Carr either checks things down or throws bombs half the time. If you want to tell your WR's something, do it on the side lines, not coming off the field were the cameras can see it.
Uh, no. Olave didn't run at full speed to clear his defender out of the area, so his defender was still in the area to make a play on the ball when Carr was supposed to throw it. THAT'S why Carr got pissed. You can't half ass your routes, or that leads to jumped routes and pick 6's. Had that happened, everyone would have blamed Carr.
Carr said that he had talked about it with Olave several times in private, but he just kept doing it. That's what lead to Carr being frustrated and confronting him on the field. Once he saw Olave didn't run his route right, he threw the ball away.
It should be noted that Olave stopped half assing his routes after that, and the pass game took off.
So no, that was 100% on Olave.
@jessegardner134 don't speak facts bro people can't handle it
@@mschanandlerbong4206 go watch the play lol. Taysom was wide open lol
That mistake was on Olave, what Olave did WRONG was there was a blitzing defender from his side, so there was no deep safety help on his route, Olave was supposed to see that blitzing defender and know that “alert” makes him the primary and the throw would be deep so he could run under it, since there was no deep safety help on him.
FYI, They’re called “alerts” in the WestCoast offense, the route may be just a “clear out” and the WR isn’t even in the progression, however, if the coverage rotates, to no deep safety help on that side, the “alert” makes that clear out the primary, add the blitzing player on that side and it’s not just the primary, it’s the “hot” route, meaning the ball has to come out quick and the QB will put a good amount of air under it to give the WR a chance to run under it, he just has to beat his man and it’s a possible TD.
U lost me when u said it’s fine to be 9-8 nooo gots to be better!
Not every team can be 12-5. Gotta be realistic.
We just had three years of no playoff participation. Simply not good enough.
The league MUST have average teams, doesn’t mean Los Santos has to take that spot every year....
@@geoffhoutman1557 This is true. We *should* be better.
@@JamesSkrmetta true but we can’t settle for that just bc every team can’t be 12-5 we have room to improve and don’t at time
All I have to say about Florio, is what everyone says about opinions and a-holes, everyone's got one and most of them stink.
If Carr didn’t lose Coach Gruden LV would of won the SB already
I think you're right. Carr was on pace for an MVP season in '21, and Raiders were 3-1.
He was on pace to shatter the NFL passing record by over 2k yards at one point, along with about 40 TDS. Imagine a QB getting 7k yards and 40 TDS. Instant MVP 😂.
So yeah, I think they would have went all the way in '21 if not for the Email leaks.
@@jessegardner134 NFL vs The Raiders so they couldn’t let it happen Carr with the right squad is very dangerous 💪🏼 DC4 LFG!!!!!!!!
@@jessegardner134 in 2021 he was playing better than his 2016 season
Peyt also destroyed mike vanderjagt and basically kicked him off the team. It’s called holding people accountable
Peyton HATED Mike V lol
Look , it just ain’t there 🤷🏾♂️ his leadership is what kills me aside from his play!
Is it Saints hate month? My squad is unrecognizable with what I'm hearing, gotta keep my morale up but damn.
Saints will be better! Don't let the big media get you down.
Colin cowherd just did a segment on under over bets for wins and of course we need a reaction video for the saints
Send a link over if you can find one 🫡
@@JamesSkrmetta ruclips.net/video/R2yc3-7X8MI/видео.htmlsi=fq3LIinYdi-eE59W
not pushing down old ladies 🤣🤣
Carr average QB paired with a really bad head coach in DA is a formula for failure and mediocrity.
Under a good coach Carr can probably be above average.
Most accurate assestment
Klint Kubiak is the savior
I don’t think Carr can make those playoffs throws he gets gun shy and holds the ball to long in the playoffs u gotta make throws in super tight windows all I can tell him is don’t get hurt this rookie got the eye of the tiger swagger about himself
Florio is in love with DC low key. Stfu
lol Flrio HATES the whole Carr family
CARRBAGE 🗑️
@@JamesSkrmettaCARRBAGE IS 🗑️ I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU JAMES 🤔
The cosplay thing makes sense if you revert to the picture of him kissing Gleason on the forehead 👀 phony !!
God bless saints fans but yall going to have to wake up and smell the coffee... this dude florio hit it right on the head.... it is what it is....
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They need to lower the expectations of the New Orleans Saints. We are in a rebuilding year and a new offensive scheme that has to be proven with this roster. Derek Carr is only as good as the players around him.
He’s not a rookie
That’s all of them at this level it ain’t high school football
Derek Carr has played for 7 different coaches in his 10 year career ADDITIONALLY, has had bad offensive lines. IDK why people don’t bring this up?
@@KASLtjaBAKER MAYFIELD HAD 10 DIFFERENT COACHES IN LESS THAN 5 YEARS AND STILL MADE THE PLAYOFFS 🤗 BAKER MAYFIELD BEAT CARRBAGE WITH THE RAMS AND BUCCANEERS 🫡
Never won a playoff game. Why don’t people bring this up?
James, gotta know where you got the hat
James what’s your definition of a successful season for the saints this year?
Win the division and 10+ wins.
@@JamesSkrmetta wow you really setting yourself up for disappointment. 8-9 wins is a safe bet
“Done DoG” James , nobody does it like your bro
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27:11 me tooo!!!!
Been waiting for this one
Boom!
I'm sorry James, but his teammates care ma dude. Nobody wants to rock with a two faced person. Just saying.
The reason Carr gets hate is because he is a middle of the pack QB but all the people around him make him feel like he’s Manning and Rodgers. There’s a video where his brothers are comparing him to Aaron and they are not happy with people who disagree. Just ask Wifi Willie if DC is middle of the pack and he will go all out in defense of Carr lol
@_DaBears_ at a certain point you have to be realistic and say he’s 13th best but that’s ok just like what was said in the video. If you keep saying he’s a hall of famer and he falls short of those expectations then you putting Carr in a bad position.
@_DaBears_there's mountains of evidence proving Carr is much better than mid, it was the teams around him holding him back. The seasons where he graded mid, were seasons where he had a new OC and/or all new starting WR's and a terrible OL.
The same exact thing happened to Stafford in Detroit, only Carr never had the luxury of having Megatron. In fact Carrsv stats with Raiders are virtually identical to Stafford with Lions, even breaking the same NFL records for clutch play. It's eerie how similar they are.
All QBs need a good team around them and stability to be successful. Like Mahomes, Brees, Rodgers, Big Ben, etc. When given bad teams, they have losing records. They were just lucky enough to be on a team that didn't draft line morons every season, so they had the luxury of good OL's, weapons, and defense. Carr hasn't. Hopefully saints can change that....even if the OL looks super rough going into this season.
Honestly, a lot of the comparisons that you’ve made with Carr and the other QB’s such as Brady, Manning, Mahomes and etc when it comes to them talking down to their players fall short given that they’ve won, and have been consistent about it so it gives them a pass where other QB’s don’t get one. This will be Carr’s 12th year and what does he have to show for it? I get defending him, but if Carr was winning games and performing like the aforementioned QB’s, then yeah, by all means. Yet he hasn’t. I don’t agree with all of Florio’s takes, but the fact that Carr doesn’t hold himself accountable for his performances throughout the season i.e. Chris Olave and being thrown under the bus by Carr, and not the latter games when it doesn’t matter anymore. That and Dennis not holding his QB accountable as well. Anyway, Dennis and Carr have to show out this season or it’s over for them so that much is true.
Exactly. Winning is the best Bandaid
I do not care for Carr as my quarterback because I know what I am getting! The Saints defense is historically not consistent enough to have an “average QB”lead them to nothing less then constant mediocrity 🤷🏾♂️
Mike Florio’s hate towards DC is disrespectful.
You talk too much, role the clip and then talk about it…..I hate when people play then pause and talk then play and then talk about nothing related to the clip…..
So it's ok to be a mediocre team? Spoken like a true Carr groupie! I expected more from a real Saints fan! 💯 Smh😆😆😆
Average QB don’t go to the play offs or win division that’s what Carr is
CARRBAGE IS 🗑️
I would love to see you say that to his face.
@@richvitale3831🤣 CARRBAGE IS A CRY BABY 🍼 THAT MAN CHILD CRIES ON THE FIELD AND ON PRESS CONFERENCE 🤗 ANYONE CAN MAKE CARRBAGE CRY 🤭
BACON BOY 🐖🥓
UP OR OUT… NO DIDDY
If Dennis Allen wants to keep his job, he has to keep a short leash on Carr. Up to you DA. That's it!!!!
DA has to succeed this year or he is gone.
Whether Florio likes Carr or not, he's telling the truth about him. Derek's a dud; a lame stat-padder. We all see through him. When he and his ego massagers are eradicated from the Who Dat Nation we can resume playing football.
I think the Carr situation is this. People liked him and even loved him early on. His likability created people rooting for him. So when he falls short he lets people down. So after years of letting people down by losing, regardless of the reason, turned love into hate. There’s a fine line between love and hate. Right now and last year I love Carr, but give me three more years of 7-9. And my fandom will likely change as well. The reason I explain it like this, is because he the Bermuda Triangle when it comes to figuring out who fault it is, for why his teams keep losing. Some could say including me, well his D sucked at the Raiders, ok, but Drew Brees had some terrible defenses but still won playoff games.. yea he’s not Brees, but he should be by now.
Carr is trash..11 years 0 playoff wins..of course we as saints fans have to buy into idea that he is going to be great this season but deep down we all know the truth...he's inconsistent and not a winner.. 7-10 here we come..
CARRBAGE FANBOYS WILL SAY ITS THE OLINE FAULT THE WIDE RECEIVERS FAULT AND ITS ALWAYS THE DEFENSE FAULT TOO 🤡
I think my fault is we compare Carr to Drew Brees. We always saw the rallies of pumping up the team and being supportive of teammates. I got use to it, lead with examples after examples.
Carr on the other hand threw bad throws that injured 3 Te's and at least 3 wide receivers also put the linemen and teammates down.
Also I am wrong earlier about not liking the 5th round qb pick ..the new guy shows lots of promise.
That whole thing was majorly overblown, all bc Thomas blew it up.
Carr was in a new (terrible) system, with all new wrs. No QB in that situation is going to be perfectly accurate every throw. Hell Mahomes throws "hospital" balls to this day, and he's had 1 system his entire career.
@@jessegardner134 not really, the sports announcers said the system of mahomes has changed due to the offensive coach change and the loss of hill and the former wr from the steelers. The chiefs were suppose to be on a rebuild year last year.
I agree with you he did throw hospital balls more than carr also the wr crew had the most dropped passes or one of the most dropped passes in the nfl. And it did also seem that mahomes did seem more lazy or less driven last season.
with kelcy, holywood and the new rookie and sky the system will change again. They will still have a great coach reid.
I agree with you carr had a lazy bad system with carmichael and should have been fired before signing carr , anyone paying attention could see that. Still 10 years plus experience and the overused excuse he doesn't get the system till the next year. Glad the saints didn't hire grudden, but hired klint instead.
He also shouldn't have played injured which also lead to the hospital throws but that i blame bad coaching, dennis allen and a combination of getting paid top tier money and trying to put it all on him. Also staring down targets before the snap.
It was also unfair of my expectations on wishing saints would at least win a playoff team, when they received the 2nd most easiest schedule in the nfl and the 1st easiest schedule in the history of the saints, yes I don't want to go back and have the expectations of the 'aints area.
It didn't help that poor scouting, draft picks, coaching in 2023 also offensive line does play a factor. The guy in another video said offensive line says it isn't a factor. They should have addressed the offensive line. Jafari evens and the other best guard and having one of the best centers at that time did play a huge factor. I think piere thomas and the team benefited greatly.
Carr will not only have a tougher schedule but the offensive line lost 3 starters i think, gained 1 due to the draft? klint's offense starts with the run.... and motions before the snap.
I don't have cable but i think the one game i saw he put the ball in each wr. evenly in a brees like fashion.
Carr was put between a rock and a hard place. Mismanagement of players is a factor too, for years putting players not in a position of their strengths, ohh but they can be multipositioned should not be the 1st priority.Yes we will have injuries saints are famous for that. But poor roster management is a factor.
Best wishes to the saints, just don't give us the propaganda of nonsense, like "Allen being one of the greatest coaches of all time."-Loomis
Car shouldn't be in the NFL and if it wasn't because he's a white Christian dude with a older brother that played in the NFL, he would've been gone a long time ago! 💯
Flo wasn’t kidding when he said dude wouldn’t have an 11 12:42
Both nfc title losses were heartbreaking. And one play from a super bowl
Can’t use injury as an excuse for bad play if just the year prior you use that same excuse to justify not playing Winston and playing an inferior qb Andy Dalton.
6:28 Carr is a fake / phony. Look at his press conferences, swaying back and forth like a little kid.
I like how you cut out the part when he said, Carr always blames everyone but himself! Way to spin it goofy! 💯 Smh😆😆😆
Carr = Average
True. I have him 17th
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