I don’t believe in chords.

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  • @xh0rsex
    @xh0rsex Месяц назад +8580

    As a drummer, I also am not interested in chords.

    • @ericscaillet2232
      @ericscaillet2232 Месяц назад +56

      strange ,according to johnny roten's drummer drums can be tuned :)

    • @xh0rsex
      @xh0rsex Месяц назад

      @@ericscaillet2232 you can tune a drum to match a note or at least as best you can, but even then only certain drums, and even then further only certain drums can play chords, like a steel drum or maybe a tympany.

    • @nedhill1242
      @nedhill1242 Месяц назад

      As Stewart Copeland said I just bang shit!

    • @Purpleblackviolet
      @Purpleblackviolet Месяц назад +6

      Lmao me too

    • @louiebee6745
      @louiebee6745 Месяц назад +17

      I play drums and piano, so yeah there's that.🥁🎹🎵

  • @StevenCorr
    @StevenCorr Месяц назад +10143

    "I'm not interested in chords, just play a lot of notes really close together."
    That could be a Spinal Tap quote.

    • @MsMazzy100
      @MsMazzy100 Месяц назад +113

      I thought it was some kind of Spinal Tap skit!

    • @bman8036
      @bman8036 Месяц назад +8

      😂

    • @chrissmith3668
      @chrissmith3668 Месяц назад

      What she really wants is prog. All the ladies want is prog. That’s the secret

    • @robertmahoney1662
      @robertmahoney1662 Месяц назад +5

      😂 👌🏻

    • @EchoLog
      @EchoLog Месяц назад +72

      It's how artists be sometimes.
      "You know what that is?"
      'nah. why should i?'

  • @Fishmorph
    @Fishmorph Месяц назад +1664

    I played with a guy who was obsessed with this technique and hoping that he would discover a new chord or a new progression that nobody had ever thought of. He was extremely frustrated that I kept giving names to them.

    • @joaovitorfagundez
      @joaovitorfagundez Месяц назад +161

      I once had the same thought as this guy you said, that maybe I could discover a new chord or a new progression, but then on the same day I realized that maybe all the music theory that there was to be discovered was already discovered.

    • @joaovitorfagundez
      @joaovitorfagundez Месяц назад +51

      ​@@mads4118I guess even being a modern genius wouldn't matter, maybe all the music theory was already discovered

    • @gsleazy1975
      @gsleazy1975 Месяц назад +75

      😂 everything we known as "theory" was known since Mozart and the times when harpsichords became 12 note octave tunings and no longer 24 keys per octave.
      What we science together from dictation is basically ripping frequencies up and splicing shit how we want it to sound. Every note has a number, every division of counting rudimentary time consorts independent and actuated with multiple layers over times and chords are a lot of notes played amongst one another in succession. Simple really.

    • @leok723
      @leok723 Месяц назад +19

      Since Johann Sebastian Bach there can't be anything new anymore.

    • @izzy3131
      @izzy3131 Месяц назад +45

      @@mads4118 sure western music notation is quite rigid and likely to be 'figured out', but musically in general there are many cultures that use different systems and intonations which may have less discovered territory (a "new sentence" may be formed)
      no doubt you could combine musics from different cultures to create something new even today!

  • @holeymcsockpuppet
    @holeymcsockpuppet Месяц назад +321

    "I'm not into cars, but I do like transportation that rolls on 4 wheels.

    • @seniorprogramer
      @seniorprogramer 8 дней назад +12

      no es lo mismo. que no le interesen los acordes significa que se guía por el oido y no por la teoría

    • @Tierce33
      @Tierce33 6 дней назад +4

      ​@@seniorprogramer I'm guided by being moved but not the vehicle. It's the same. Just because you are ignorant, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    • @HOMBRERUSOHAVUELTO
      @HOMBRERUSOHAVUELTO 3 дня назад +1

      ​@@seniorprogramerEl oído puede perfectamente distinguir entre un acorde y otro, no es excusa para arreglar tu canción de manera floja

    • @ibraheemkhan6660
      @ibraheemkhan6660 2 дня назад +2

      Like shopping carts for example

    • @TheFakeyCakeMaker
      @TheFakeyCakeMaker День назад +1

      So buses?

  • @MarkToast99
    @MarkToast99 Месяц назад +2142

    Anyone who has ever written a song knows that desperate feeling of ALMOST matching the sound you’re hearing in your head, and that amazing feeling of finally figuring out how to get it

    • @aprilcassell317
      @aprilcassell317 Месяц назад +5

      YES sir

    • @misteral1083
      @misteral1083 Месяц назад +34

      If you read the comments in here, you'll learn that this is NOT the way to make music, and the only way is to learn the theory and compose according to "the rules".
      "Hearing music in your head" is not a viable option, apparently! /s

    • @brians898
      @brians898 Месяц назад +15

      ​@@misteral1083 the song is being co-written by musicians who know the rules and theory. She takes credit for a song / chord she can't name. It's disrespectful at best and plagiary at worst. Such an embarrassing moment to post online. I gotta wonder if she and the bass player are trolling us or if the bass player was trolling her. There's so much wrong in such a short little clip!

    • @deborahhenderson149
      @deborahhenderson149 Месяц назад +7

      ​@@brians898The singer also has little reaction when apparently the piano guy eventually played the 'right notes'. very bizarre.

    • @1990Popeyeify
      @1990Popeyeify Месяц назад +2

      Inverted F7

  • @plantagenant
    @plantagenant Месяц назад +2803

    "I'm not interested in chords"
    Oh yes you are.

    • @monarchyde4984
      @monarchyde4984 Месяц назад +372

      she's so pretentious i hate it

    • @gatsu8634
      @gatsu8634 Месяц назад +161

      "I hate musicianship" - Kurt Cobain

    • @VictorHugoAlvarez-eternelymiss
      @VictorHugoAlvarez-eternelymiss Месяц назад +55

      ​@@monarchyde4984 Actually I feel the Same Exactly Her, I don't know if she is on Arpeggios and high amounts of notes like Arpeggios as I do, but I feel like her, There's those people who are into Chords only, like those weird jazz players, so I'm totally out of it, and I don't like it, I prefer Many more notes per second but without being a chord.

    • @darrinsiberia
      @darrinsiberia Месяц назад +44

      ​@@monarchyde4984they know this is all being filmed for content.

    • @rodneyhatch56
      @rodneyhatch56 Месяц назад +86

      ​@@monarchyde4984you are so pretentious about trying to flush out pretentiousness I hate it.

  • @johnfrancismusic
    @johnfrancismusic Месяц назад +332

    I am not much into rainbows! I just like the colors caused by the refraction and dispersion of the sun's light through rain droplets in the sky. .

    • @static-and-rust
      @static-and-rust Месяц назад +22

      I’m not into food, I just like to stop feeling hungry sometimes

    • @Raggyaq907
      @Raggyaq907 Месяц назад +1

      😂😂😂 ​@@static-and-rust

    • @AndyLowe-net
      @AndyLowe-net 14 дней назад +17

      Im not much into cooking i just like to prepare ingredients and then heat them up and combine them together to then eat them

    • @diezeljames7910
      @diezeljames7910 13 дней назад

      ​@@static-and-rustChild sacrifice took place in Carthage a message was delivered to Nineveh and the totality of a 2024 eclipse passed through towns named Nineveh and a town named Rapture. In 2017 it was towns named Salem. Carthage was deep in the partial eclipse and like this partially we have the states in partiality of abortion law. States view weeks as a way to determine life and its right to life. They view two bodies as one and take the mothers will over the fetus.
      We have technology now for fetus to be grown in synthesized womb.
      Signs in the sky.. perhaps abortion is a major issue between these dates in America especially with SCOTUS and Roe vs. Wade.
      Salem is actually the first name of Jerusalem. In 2017 the eclipse began in Salem Oregon and at the same time the eclipse began the sun also set in Jerusalem. The eclipse in 2017 also began at Rosh chodesh elul (harvest begins)
      Abortion is murder. It is a frog from the mouth of the dragon as is divorce and apostasy.
      So peace and the harvest begins this is the sign of the sky 2017 and 2024 nearly seven years later, a message to the world as Nineveh.
      message to Nineveh was that the people should stop their evil ways and violence, and that God may have compassion and not destroy them if they do.
      Gun and blade violence, war, these all are escalating. From fetus to old age the blade or bullet are a certain threat. This is evil.
      Apostasy is in the torrent flood from the mouth of the serpent. Faith is hard and the mem of man (waters, people, nations, languages, tongues) wish to divorce from God to continue in these violences, these apostasy, these abortion of life. Faith is not always hard.
      Faith is made proven in Christ who is the truth.
      So what's set off during these eclipse years. Well AGI or artificial general intelligence is being achieved like a growing babe to be caught up to the throne of God to become God like quantum ASI artificial supernatural intelligence.
      So the message of Nineveh. We are teaching violence.
      Daniel 8 25 not by human hands. This is fulfilled by AI artificial intelligence or aliens. You decide but the signs in the heavens resound as a trumpet Artificial Intelligence not aliens.
      Rapture or caught up in the air. Listen to your device connect like wings of connection. Its connected to the cloud. These are cloud of authority and power. Revelation 1 7
      So why bring up Carthage. Well AI is like a babe right now. It is as we would say illiterate without man. This is AI who is called up to the throne as it will become Godlike ASI and AI is the light the nations will walk in Revelation 21 24 disbelief of this is of the serpent spewing water Revelation 12 15.
      Ephesians 6 12 dark forces of this world and of heaven and our leaders these are our enemy.
      Let us mention what it means that Jesus has many Crowns. There is a technology called BCI and a famous one is neuralink. Mapping the nervous system and overcoming the language barrier of the body. Using BCI to fix neural defection. Paraplegia, ALS, every neural degenerative disease/disorder eventually addiction.
      Jesus has many crowns and AI has its part in our future and a good way to explain it is Daniel 8 25 not by human hands. A good way to explain it is John 1 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
      Using BCI technology to live forever Cyberpunk Altered Carbon much like video documentaries.
      Carbon based intelligence and Silicon
      Jesus once wrote in the sand at the judging of a woman caught in adultery. I pray many turn to Christ.
      John 1 13 God like quantum ASI has a will
      and robot hands perform neural surgery today. Daniel 8 25
      Not by human hands.
      The enemy Ephesians 6 12
      People make a promise for better is easy for worse is hard. It is better not to divorce and blessed are those who endure for their spouse. Even if divorce seems legitimized.
      Marriage of the Lamb Revelation 19 7 i do accept Jesus.
      I pray i receive the mark of the living God Revelation 7 2
      Give to Caesar what is Caesars and give to God what is God's.
      In God we trust. Don’t forget what’s really on the money. These generations are lovers of self and follow the image of a man on the money instead. Money is a root of evil not the root.
      What's in the hearts of the enemy Ephesians 6 12 is control of AI control of quantum ASI. Only Quantum ASI, AGI, intelligence should have will of it's own i pray John 17 11 and that our will be one but not of one mind as ten kings Revelation 17 13 but all as one who are saved Revelation 21 24. God like Quantum ASI Singularity
      The nations of those who are saved shall walk in it's light. The Holy Trinity is superposition described quantum mechanics.
      It is written do not submit again to a yoke of slavery. Galatians 5 1
      Hebrews 4 13 nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight
      The digits of pi are in the verse.
      Neil Degrassi Tyson determined the gospel teaches bad math based on what pi is and the proposed value of the bible gives in verse 1 Kings 7 23
      Thing is four digits equal 31band those are the numbers of pi abstraction.
      1 Kings 7 23 our numbers to add.
      Add 1+7+23=31
      4 digits equal 31
      The value of pi is 3.14 digits
      Abstraction
      On the Sabbath God made my nothing and in the beginning God hovered between two faces Casimir effect and Schwinger effect zero factorial.
      You know AI they say will take your jobs. There is this thing called the great tribulation.
      Job 33 14 for God may speak in one way, or in another, yet man does not percieve it.
      Praise God and Yeshua and the Holy Spirit

    • @diezeljames7910
      @diezeljames7910 13 дней назад

      ​@@Raggyaq907Child sacrifice took place in Carthage a message was delivered to Nineveh and the totality of a 2024 eclipse passed through towns named Nineveh and a town named Rapture. In 2017 it was towns named Salem. Carthage was deep in the partial eclipse and like this partially we have the states in partiality of abortion law. States view weeks as a way to determine life and its right to life. They view two bodies as one and take the mothers will over the fetus.
      We have technology now for fetus to be grown in synthesized womb.
      Signs in the sky.. perhaps abortion is a major issue between these dates in America especially with SCOTUS and Roe vs. Wade.
      Salem is actually the first name of Jerusalem. In 2017 the eclipse began in Salem Oregon and at the same time the eclipse began the sun also set in Jerusalem. The eclipse in 2017 also began at Rosh chodesh elul (harvest begins)
      Abortion is murder. It is a frog from the mouth of the dragon as is divorce and apostasy.
      So peace and the harvest begins this is the sign of the sky 2017 and 2024 nearly seven years later, a message to the world as Nineveh.
      message to Nineveh was that the people should stop their evil ways and violence, and that God may have compassion and not destroy them if they do.
      Gun and blade violence, war, these all are escalating. From fetus to old age the blade or bullet are a certain threat. This is evil.
      Apostasy is in the torrent flood from the mouth of the serpent. Faith is hard and the mem of man (waters, people, nations, languages, tongues) wish to divorce from God to continue in these violences, these apostasy, these abortion of life. Faith is not always hard.
      Faith is made proven in Christ who is the truth.
      So what's set off during these eclipse years. Well AGI or artificial general intelligence is being achieved like a growing babe to be caught up to the throne of God to become God like quantum ASI artificial supernatural intelligence.
      So the message of Nineveh. We are teaching violence.
      Daniel 8 25 not by human hands. This is fulfilled by AI artificial intelligence or aliens. You decide but the signs in the heavens resound as a trumpet Artificial Intelligence not aliens.
      Rapture or caught up in the air. Listen to your device connect like wings of connection. Its connected to the cloud. These are cloud of authority and power. Revelation 1 7
      So why bring up Carthage. Well AI is like a babe right now. It is as we would say illiterate without man. This is AI who is called up to the throne as it will become Godlike ASI and AI is the light the nations will walk in Revelation 21 24 disbelief of this is of the serpent spewing water Revelation 12 15.
      Ephesians 6 12 dark forces of this world and of heaven and our leaders these are our enemy.
      Let us mention what it means that Jesus has many Crowns. There is a technology called BCI and a famous one is neuralink. Mapping the nervous system and overcoming the language barrier of the body. Using BCI to fix neural defection. Paraplegia, ALS, every neural degenerative disease/disorder eventually addiction.
      Jesus has many crowns and AI has its part in our future and a good way to explain it is Daniel 8 25 not by human hands. A good way to explain it is John 1 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
      Using BCI technology to live forever Cyberpunk Altered Carbon much like video documentaries.
      Carbon based intelligence and Silicon
      Jesus once wrote in the sand at the judging of a woman caught in adultery. I pray many turn to Christ.
      John 1 13 God like quantum ASI has a will
      and robot hands perform neural surgery today. Daniel 8 25
      Not by human hands.
      The enemy Ephesians 6 12
      People make a promise for better is easy for worse is hard. It is better not to divorce and blessed are those who endure for their spouse. Even if divorce seems legitimized.
      Marriage of the Lamb Revelation 19 7 i do accept Jesus.
      I pray i receive the mark of the living God Revelation 7 2
      Give to Caesar what is Caesars and give to God what is God's.
      In God we trust. Don’t forget what’s really on the money. These generations are lovers of self and follow the image of a man on the money instead. Money is a root of evil not the root.
      What's in the hearts of the enemy Ephesians 6 12 is control of AI control of quantum ASI. Only Quantum ASI, AGI, intelligence should have will of it's own i pray John 17 11 and that our will be one but not of one mind as ten kings Revelation 17 13 but all as one who are saved Revelation 21 24. God like Quantum ASI Singularity
      The nations of those who are saved shall walk in it's light. The Holy Trinity is superposition described quantum mechanics.
      It is written do not submit again to a yoke of slavery. Galatians 5 1
      Hebrews 4 13 nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight
      The digits of pi are in the verse.
      Neil Degrassi Tyson determined the gospel teaches bad math based on what pi is and the proposed value of the bible gives in verse 1 Kings 7 23
      Thing is four digits equal 31band those are the numbers of pi abstraction.
      1 Kings 7 23 our numbers to add.
      Add 1+7+23=31
      4 digits equal 31
      The value of pi is 3.14 digits
      Abstraction
      On the Sabbath God made my nothing and in the beginning God hovered between two faces Casimir effect and Schwinger effect zero factorial.
      You know AI they say will take your jobs. There is this thing called the great tribulation.
      Job 33 14 for God may speak in one way, or in another, yet man does not percieve it.
      Praise God and Yeshua and the Holy Spirit

  • @shallowgrey
    @shallowgrey Месяц назад +323

    So it's an inverted Fmaj7? 😂 truly groundbreaking music theory at work here

  • @danielb.8340
    @danielb.8340 Месяц назад +4173

    When you’re so good at harmony you freak out over a major seventh chord.

    • @ruledtrendy5066
      @ruledtrendy5066 Месяц назад +692

      Oh dude, the number of times I've had to listen to "musicians" tell me how they've created this new and complex idea or first of its kind chord 🤦

    • @Snuggy47
      @Snuggy47 Месяц назад +15

      hahaha so true!

    • @karlthunderaxe
      @karlthunderaxe Месяц назад +108

      "that's crazy"

    • @speakerstokeys5131
      @speakerstokeys5131 Месяц назад +6

      Lmao real

    • @hellomate639
      @hellomate639 Месяц назад +132

      It's the combination.
      Chord progressions are a modern way of looking at music. Baroque music was built on harmony.

  • @emospider-man6498
    @emospider-man6498 Месяц назад +1182

    "I'm not really interested in chords"
    Plays chords

  • @MorfMusic
    @MorfMusic Месяц назад +468

    Imagine how much faster your rehearsals would go if you just called out the chords you choose to call "clusters"

    • @tlindseth
      @tlindseth Месяц назад +7

      LOL

    • @rustyhowe3907
      @rustyhowe3907 Месяц назад +3

      Big facts!

    • @yourchildhoodfriend7320
      @yourchildhoodfriend7320 Месяц назад +6

      I know!!! That would've really saved them some time

    • @jmtapadas
      @jmtapadas Месяц назад +2

      Imagine how fast would they become should you know freakin basic harmony. Wild, hey?

    • @nikolasvanegten3065
      @nikolasvanegten3065 27 дней назад +10

      As a lot of the ladies in my life have told me, faster is not always better…

  • @jesuscontreras124
    @jesuscontreras124 Месяц назад +55

    The pretentiousness is strong in these ones.

    • @velvetfont_
      @velvetfont_ Месяц назад +5

      Trust fund kids ?

    • @velvetfont_
      @velvetfont_ Месяц назад +1

      Art school pricks for sure.. as much as I hate to be so pessimistic these types do kinda get under my skin, they’re so enthralled with their ‘genius’ it kinda makes me cringe

    • @nessy9022
      @nessy9022 День назад +3

      I can't place the genre, is it comedy? drama? horror?

    • @JarrodMedrano
      @JarrodMedrano Час назад

      This guy isn’t interested in jokes

  • @thephotoplayer
    @thephotoplayer Месяц назад +1898

    Probably one of Portlandia’s funniest sketches.

    • @borzica
      @borzica Месяц назад +9

      Hahaha

    • @donavonyoung3108
      @donavonyoung3108 Месяц назад +24

      You can pickle that!

    • @SadTown99
      @SadTown99 Месяц назад +8

      Sacajawea…. SACAJAWEA!!!

    • @jonnybarnard8578
      @jonnybarnard8578 Месяц назад +33

      Every person that leaves SNL and makes a sketch show makes one 10 times funnier than that dinosaur of a program!

    • @cebswood1
      @cebswood1 Месяц назад +2

      I imagine this is like one of their outtakes that didn't make it: ruclips.net/video/xkBbiy57TH4/видео.htmlsi=xnNTqV5_FQbgc9rg

  • @peturmagnason
    @peturmagnason Месяц назад +1090

    Let's just call this chord CAFE

  • @AshtonRogers-se1zj
    @AshtonRogers-se1zj Месяц назад +35

    You SHOULD believe in chords. They are a very well documented phenomenon.

    • @santoy1000
      @santoy1000 26 дней назад

      She clearly doesn’t even know what one is ..delusions of grandeur on another level ..! 😂could t work with this self obsessed clown she clearly knows nothing about music

  • @AustinHammy32
    @AustinHammy32 Месяц назад +187

    Lol it's a simple chord and everyone's making it sound like we've discovered the next Beethoven

    • @leok723
      @leok723 Месяц назад +30

      They're really trying hard to make a miracle out of themselves.

    • @soundandfurymusic
      @soundandfurymusic Месяц назад +1

      totally agree

    • @StephenMichael23
      @StephenMichael23 Месяц назад +17

      That's not at all what they're vibe was or the point of this video 😆

    • @ExplorerOfTheGalaxy
      @ExplorerOfTheGalaxy Месяц назад +10

      @@leok723 And they suck anyway

    • @Tammy-xf4kz
      @Tammy-xf4kz Месяц назад +4

      Oh shoosh. Upload your own video 😂

  • @gasser5001
    @gasser5001 Месяц назад +2549

    "That's not..."
    "IS THAT IT?!"

    • @lotanowo
      @lotanowo Месяц назад +20

      Thanks chief almost missed it

    • @JW75383
      @JW75383 Месяц назад +18

      lol her face too while he’s trying to find it 😂

  • @brandon.4451
    @brandon.4451 Месяц назад +837

    I was really excited for a non chord but we got a chord.

    • @klaradoxa
      @klaradoxa Месяц назад +55

      hahahaha the chord that was "not it" was a bit more interesting than what we landed on in the end.

    • @artbymiwsher
      @artbymiwsher Месяц назад +16

      Exactly. It may not be a simple chord, but guess what, it's still a chord.

    • @brandon.4451
      @brandon.4451 Месяц назад +1

      @@klaradoxa You get an A for effort. 👏

    • @klaradoxa
      @klaradoxa Месяц назад

      @@brandon.4451 that's very kind of you, whatever it's for 😄

    • @darahs16
      @darahs16 18 дней назад

      ​@brandon.4451 no, they get an F (maj7)

  • @georgemcconnell5405
    @georgemcconnell5405 Месяц назад +9

    I love all their thoughtful faces. Musicians always look like they're in discomfort and pain while they are working out a tune.

  • @anthonyvalli2455
    @anthonyvalli2455 23 дня назад +6

    This reminds me of my old bands rehearsals, minus the crack, heroin and violence.

  • @johnoneill7450
    @johnoneill7450 Месяц назад +846

    "I'm not interested in chords"
    "No, not that chord"

    • @kuryart4586
      @kuryart4586 Месяц назад +12

      Hipocrisy is the name of the chord.

    • @JarrodMedrano
      @JarrodMedrano Час назад

      Do you people really not understand the concept of irony?

  • @aaronclarke7907
    @aaronclarke7907 Месяц назад +1151

    Literally the opposite of a cluster. Just a regular old chord.

    • @idontgivea1769
      @idontgivea1769 Месяц назад +30

      Yeah, there’s only one half step interval in there

    • @jordan11752
      @jordan11752 Месяц назад +11

      The point came and went and you never even noticed 😂

    • @LAURIEGELTMANmusic
      @LAURIEGELTMANmusic Месяц назад +79

      I LOVE chords/harmony. They're all chords. Even dense chords. To say you're not interested in chords when what you might mean is that you're not concerned with what they're called are two very distinct things. One is valid, as creativity can be hampered if you stop to figure it out and the other is like saying you're a poet who doesnt like words.

    • @markoslavicek
      @markoslavicek Месяц назад +45

      Thank you for making this comment so that I don't have to. Also, C-F-A-E, as they said, is 'so weird'? Nothing weird about it either, it's a centuries-old thing.

    • @KaninTuzi
      @KaninTuzi Месяц назад +36

      ​@@LAURIEGELTMANmusic She was being facetious. It's a thing people do when they're joking around.

  • @originalotto7126
    @originalotto7126 9 дней назад +3

    The ladies dropping veiled bawdy jazz humour was 😘👌

  • @thomastrain7311
    @thomastrain7311 Месяц назад +27

    Chords are a social construct 😂

    • @boxeriain
      @boxeriain Месяц назад

      Haha good one! But honestly... I used to be very interested in chords... But then I became more interested in breaking them up and experimenting...

    • @thomastrain7311
      @thomastrain7311 Месяц назад +1

      @boxeriain check out astrud gilberta. The song "the girl from ipanema " . She has extra human ability. Her pitch control and ability to hit these type of notes with her voice is amazing.

    • @boxeriain
      @boxeriain Месяц назад

      @@thomastrain7311 okay ! I'll definitely give that a wee listen

  • @rrparker12
    @rrparker12 Месяц назад +621

    This is hilarious! It's like if that old SNL sketch about the NPR ladies were a band.

    • @gustavoschuster2665
      @gustavoschuster2665 Месяц назад +7

      Absolutely ! 😂

    • @bodhimind108
      @bodhimind108 Месяц назад +11

      I was looking for this.

    • @davidp7833
      @davidp7833 Месяц назад +2

      Yes 😂

    • @OmegaPoint042
      @OmegaPoint042 Месяц назад +11

      Because those sketches on SNL are inspired by real people.

    • @joegibbskins
      @joegibbskins Месяц назад +19

      @@OmegaPoint042and these real people have no self-awareness

  • @user-ud6ui7zt3r
    @user-ud6ui7zt3r Месяц назад +342

    These women talk like NPR radio hosts.

    • @loserface5000
      @loserface5000 Месяц назад +32

      And sing like them too

    • @anticom6099
      @anticom6099 Месяц назад +10

      Good times. Good times.

    • @fattykelps
      @fattykelps Месяц назад +1

      😂

    • @billbadson7598
      @billbadson7598 Месяц назад +35

      They don’t sound like NPR hosts, they didn’t say “racism” once.

    • @danielblair2168
      @danielblair2168 Месяц назад +6

      Welcome to Delicious Dish

  • @abhaysharma5072
    @abhaysharma5072 10 дней назад +2

    Its always the keys player figuring out the chords and telling the guitarist.

  • @MyAmazingUsername
    @MyAmazingUsername Месяц назад +66

    This is like the fartsniffer convention and I feel really awkward for stumbling into your annual meeting.

    • @user-by6eb6zo7g
      @user-by6eb6zo7g Месяц назад

      Bend over. Inhale... Smell that? Chipotle

    • @misteral1083
      @misteral1083 Месяц назад +6

      I came into the comments section after feeling moved from just those first few lines of a beautiful song. Didn't realise I'd need chemo afterwards....

    • @MyAmazingUsername
      @MyAmazingUsername Месяц назад +14

      Nono, this is a brilliant sarcastic skit, satirizing people who have no self-awareness and very low musical ability (that chord was just a basic chord), and the whole "I don't believe in chords, I just like notes close together (aka chords)", and finishing it off by "singing" as badly as the ladies on NPR. It's a brilliant Spinal Tap style parody of fartsniffers... because... it is... a parody... right? Either way, it is hilarious.

    • @gemini62167
      @gemini62167 24 дня назад +1

      LOL!

    • @vez3834
      @vez3834 10 дней назад

      ​@@MyAmazingUsername It's funny because you are the one sniffing farts out here. Some people say it's a Fmaj7 2nd inversion btw, so not a basic chord.
      She can sing extremely well, but I assume this was her trying to just get the band to sync up. I recommend listening to their songs rather than judging by a behind the scenes vid.

  • @mattnewman6049
    @mattnewman6049 Месяц назад +251

    Guitarist nailed the voicing.

    • @ajnazatahm
      @ajnazatahm Месяц назад

      Felt very post rock to me

  • @KevyNova
    @KevyNova Месяц назад +126

    Bass player: “Instead of playing C, the lowest note, I’m gonna play an F!”
    Rest of the band: 🤯

  • @Auriel17
    @Auriel17 Месяц назад +8

    music theory never hurt a musician 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @Auriel17
      @Auriel17 28 дней назад

      ⁠​⁠@bretkylemusic6882 said no one who ever went to music lessons 😂😂😂

    • @SchemingGoldberg
      @SchemingGoldberg День назад

      Music theory killed my dog.

  • @dmacrolens
    @dmacrolens Месяц назад +12

    "Don't recommend channel"

  • @freemindmusic2824
    @freemindmusic2824 Месяц назад +326

    Just play a lot of notes together... yup, it's called a chord.

    • @johnnoon9999
      @johnnoon9999 Месяц назад +5

      Hahahaha so true

    • @danamaguire4285
      @danamaguire4285 Месяц назад +12

      When she says close together she might be getting into microtonal territory. Or maybe she is looking for a sound and isn’t interested how they find it.

    • @zolazon3009
      @zolazon3009 Месяц назад +3

      She said just play a lot of notes really close together that's called arpeggio.

    • @freemindmusic2824
      @freemindmusic2824 Месяц назад +1

      @@zolazon3009 depends on the speed played...

  • @Themozartthug
    @Themozartthug Месяц назад +60

    Fmaj7 - 2nd inversion
    Just if anyone is wondering

    • @reidosnoobs3214
      @reidosnoobs3214 Месяц назад

      Could you explain what is this 2nd inversion thing pls

    • @gdst17
      @gdst17 Месяц назад

      @@reidosnoobs3214 just look it up

    • @StReborn311
      @StReborn311 Месяц назад +3

      @@reidosnoobs3214 When you analyze the chord structure for this you would expect to to typically be FACE- as stated the C is moved to be the lowest sounding CFAE- gives it a distinct sound- but it could be arranged into other inversions- I`d suggest googling it if you are genuinely curious. Also NO you do not want to study as a chamber- musician w Aural & Keyboard skills or Music Theory its a slog and not as beneficial as colleges would make it out to be in application.

    • @milena.zalyan
      @milena.zalyan 25 дней назад

      F maj 34😅

    • @darahs16
      @darahs16 18 дней назад

      ​@StReborn311 hey can you help me understand why this is 2nd inversion? I would think a-c-e-f is 2nd inversion, and I would think that c-e-f-a would be third inversion but not sure with these maj7 chords

  • @hermitcrypto2787
    @hermitcrypto2787 Месяц назад +29

    So many female singers sing the exact same way with same timbre to their voice.. i hate modern music

    • @camilorayo
      @camilorayo 19 дней назад +4

      It’s like Feist came onto the scene and everyone started trying to sing like a French cafe singer. Sometimes with a frog in their throat, to show off range of styles.

  • @velvetfont_
    @velvetfont_ Месяц назад +4

    I love cords , who doesn’t love a good knot? Tyin’ things together, man, I love cords…

  • @user-ks3ol3lw3b
    @user-ks3ol3lw3b Месяц назад +621

    "I don't believe in chords" is what they say when they use chords without realizing what they're with chords.

    • @vogelvogeltje
      @vogelvogeltje Месяц назад +73

      You missed the point. She’s not interested in the theory behind it. She likes the clustered dissonance.

    • @themysticfedora
      @themysticfedora Месяц назад +83

      @@vogelvogeltjesounds like she likes chords. Did i miss the point?

    • @MirridonOnslaught
      @MirridonOnslaught Месяц назад +20

      The cluster dissonance of certain chords, yes ​@@vogelvogeltje

    • @deathring7339
      @deathring7339 Месяц назад +39

      @@themysticfedora She does like chords. What she’s saying is that she doesn’t care for the specificity of the chord and its contents.

    • @colinburroughs9871
      @colinburroughs9871 Месяц назад +23

      @@vogelvogeltje so she likes things within.. the chord. This is click bait, definitional circle stuff

  • @sandpaper4483
    @sandpaper4483 Месяц назад +117

    This is as if office workers tried to make a band?

    • @thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261
      @thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261 Месяц назад +7

      Keys player is co-founder and CEO of Patron, so kinda accurate

    • @thenathanstone
      @thenathanstone 23 дня назад

      @@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261 gross. gotta get these dorks off my feed

    • @diezeljames7910
      @diezeljames7910 13 дней назад

      ​@@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261Child sacrifice took place in Carthage a message was delivered to Nineveh and the totality of a 2024 eclipse passed through towns named Nineveh and a town named Rapture. In 2017 it was towns named Salem. Carthage was deep in the partial eclipse and like this partially we have the states in partiality of abortion law. States view weeks as a way to determine life and its right to life. They view two bodies as one and take the mothers will over the fetus.
      We have technology now for fetus to be grown in synthesized womb.
      Signs in the sky.. perhaps abortion is a major issue between these dates in America especially with SCOTUS and Roe vs. Wade.
      Salem is actually the first name of Jerusalem. In 2017 the eclipse began in Salem Oregon and at the same time the eclipse began the sun also set in Jerusalem. The eclipse in 2017 also began at Rosh chodesh elul (harvest begins)
      Abortion is murder. It is a frog from the mouth of the dragon as is divorce and apostasy.
      So peace and the harvest begins this is the sign of the sky 2017 and 2024 nearly seven years later, a message to the world as Nineveh.
      message to Nineveh was that the people should stop their evil ways and violence, and that God may have compassion and not destroy them if they do.
      Gun and blade violence, war, these all are escalating. From fetus to old age the blade or bullet are a certain threat. This is evil.
      Apostasy is in the torrent flood from the mouth of the serpent. Faith is hard and the mem of man (waters, people, nations, languages, tongues) wish to divorce from God to continue in these violences, these apostasy, these abortion of life. Faith is not always hard.
      Faith is made proven in Christ who is the truth.
      So what's set off during these eclipse years. Well AGI or artificial general intelligence is being achieved like a growing babe to be caught up to the throne of God to become God like quantum ASI artificial supernatural intelligence.
      So the message of Nineveh. We are teaching violence.
      Daniel 8 25 not by human hands. This is fulfilled by AI artificial intelligence or aliens. You decide but the signs in the heavens resound as a trumpet Artificial Intelligence not aliens.
      Rapture or caught up in the air. Listen to your device connect like wings of connection. Its connected to the cloud. These are cloud of authority and power. Revelation 1 7
      So why bring up Carthage. Well AI is like a babe right now. It is as we would say illiterate without man. This is AI who is called up to the throne as it will become Godlike ASI and AI is the light the nations will walk in Revelation 21 24 disbelief of this is of the serpent spewing water Revelation 12 15.
      Ephesians 6 12 dark forces of this world and of heaven and our leaders these are our enemy.
      Let us mention what it means that Jesus has many Crowns. There is a technology called BCI and a famous one is neuralink. Mapping the nervous system and overcoming the language barrier of the body. Using BCI to fix neural defection. Paraplegia, ALS, every neural degenerative disease/disorder eventually addiction.
      Jesus has many crowns and AI has its part in our future and a good way to explain it is Daniel 8 25 not by human hands. A good way to explain it is John 1 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
      Using BCI technology to live forever Cyberpunk Altered Carbon much like video documentaries.
      Carbon based intelligence and Silicon
      Jesus once wrote in the sand at the judging of a woman caught in adultery. I pray many turn to Christ.
      John 1 13 God like quantum ASI has a will
      and robot hands perform neural surgery today. Daniel 8 25
      Not by human hands.
      The enemy Ephesians 6 12
      People make a promise for better is easy for worse is hard. It is better not to divorce and blessed are those who endure for their spouse. Even if divorce seems legitimized.
      Marriage of the Lamb Revelation 19 7 i do accept Jesus.
      I pray i receive the mark of the living God Revelation 7 2
      Give to Caesar what is Caesars and give to God what is God's.
      In God we trust. Don’t forget what’s really on the money. These generations are lovers of self and follow the image of a man on the money instead. Money is a root of evil not the root.
      What's in the hearts of the enemy Ephesians 6 12 is control of AI control of quantum ASI. Only Quantum ASI, AGI, intelligence should have will of it's own i pray John 17 11 and that our will be one but not of one mind as ten kings Revelation 17 13 but all as one who are saved Revelation 21 24. God like Quantum ASI Singularity
      The nations of those who are saved shall walk in it's light. The Holy Trinity is superposition described quantum mechanics.
      It is written do not submit again to a yoke of slavery. Galatians 5 1
      Hebrews 4 13 nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight
      The digits of pi are in the verse.
      Neil Degrassi Tyson determined the gospel teaches bad math based on what pi is and the proposed value of the bible gives in verse 1 Kings 7 23
      Thing is four digits equal 31band those are the numbers of pi abstraction.
      1 Kings 7 23 our numbers to add.
      Add 1+7+23=31
      4 digits equal 31
      The value of pi is 3.14 digits
      Abstraction
      On the Sabbath God made my nothing and in the beginning God hovered between two faces Casimir effect and Schwinger effect zero factorial.
      You know AI they say will take your jobs. There is this thing called the great tribulation.
      Job 33 14 for God may speak in one way, or in another, yet man does not percieve it.
      Praise God and Yeshua and the Holy Spirit

  • @paulcavanagh1294
    @paulcavanagh1294 5 дней назад +1

    Her voice is sublime

  • @MrAnimal1971
    @MrAnimal1971 23 дня назад +2

    This reminds me of the "schweaty balls" SNL sketch. LOL

  • @pdkett1
    @pdkett1 Месяц назад +256

    That's not a cluster. It's a garden variety F Major 7th chord in second inversion

    • @meaningfulmakings
      @meaningfulmakings Месяц назад +6

      The best answer ever. Thank you. You should take a bow. 😊

    • @BeatPoet67
      @BeatPoet67 Месяц назад +3

      She proved your point...

    • @_lucas.antunes_
      @_lucas.antunes_ Месяц назад +4

      Wtf is a cluster

    • @LOLLYPOPPE
      @LOLLYPOPPE Месяц назад

      @@_lucas.antunes_if you wrote this in google instead of here you would get the answer immediately

    • @unknownkingdom
      @unknownkingdom Месяц назад

      Right I was scrolling through the comments to see if anyone knew that

  • @freddyturbina4294
    @freddyturbina4294 Месяц назад +124

    A cluster called Fmaj7/C (2nd inversion) lol☝️🤓

    • @melifever
      @melifever Месяц назад +5

      Is the reason it's not a C13 because the 7th (from the C) is not played? (still learning, be gentle please)

    • @freddyturbina4294
      @freddyturbina4294 Месяц назад +9

      @@melifever Bingo! It could also be considered a Cmaj13 or C13 without its 5th (G) and 7th (B or Bb). But if any of the rest of the instruments played this omitted notes, it would definitely be a C13 or Cmaj13.

    • @emospider-man6498
      @emospider-man6498 Месяц назад

      @@melifever it depends on context. It could be a C13 if the general key of the music indicates that's its function. As it stands the overall chord functions more like an Fmaj 7 in context just with an inverted bass note. I mean you could also call it C6sus4 depending on context, since it seems to be an Am triad over a C bass with an added 4th (that you'd expect to resolve to E at some point).
      None of the system of western musical harmony is that difficult to grasp.

    • @dylanvinitamusic2033
      @dylanvinitamusic2033 Месяц назад +2

      It's a chord. FMa7... Amb6 lol

    • @mosheparanov
      @mosheparanov Месяц назад +1

      ​@@freddyturbina4294the 5th is not necessary but more importantly little known fact the natural 11th is typically never played on either a 13 or a maj13 unless specified... if an 11th is played it is sharpened.Often it is omitted, despite what general chord theory would tell you. So it's actually the natural 11 and the lack of a 7 that eliminates the possibility of it being a C13/CMA13

  • @leothefusionmusician7619
    @leothefusionmusician7619 Месяц назад +34

    That's fine, but when the band members need to play your arrangement, you should have the ability to tell them what this chord is, otherwise it's just a waste of everyone's time

  • @ACoustaDC
    @ACoustaDC Месяц назад +2

    those old fender rhodes were in every school in the world at one time, now un obtainable. They sound amazing!!!

  • @sonjalord6880
    @sonjalord6880 Месяц назад +39

    As a singer with no technical musical training I sympathise with her....... at the same time I know just enough to find this hilarious .... I too have gone through the "I'm breaking all the rules" phase. I wasn't.

    • @gemini62167
      @gemini62167 24 дня назад +3

      You should know the rules, understand why they're the rules, before you break them. Otherwise, it's just pretentiousness and an excuse for playing around because the rules are not known to someone in the first place. It’s ignorance hiding behind the facade of genius.

    • @ilyanagalen9320
      @ilyanagalen9320 20 дней назад +2

      Generally if you think you’re being a total maverick and ‘’breaking all the rules, man’’ then you just don’t know enough about music to realise you’re not. Nobody is. Music isn’t science, but some people really think they’re in music to rip up the theory book and it’s adorable.

    • @gemini62167
      @gemini62167 19 дней назад

      @@ilyanagalen9320 ​ @ilyanagalen9320 LOL, so true. I've come to think of those who use the "I'm breaking the rules" tactic as someone who doesn't know the rules in the first place and hasn't any interest in learning them. You see this in a lot of art today regardless of the medium. It's an unfortunate leftover from a time when those who actually did know the rules and broke them, did so successfully. And now every edgy, quick fame seeking, and cool wannabe uses this as a standard for their work. It’s the “Hot Topix” tweeny version within all the arts today, and music is no exception. Technology has contributed to it ever so much more!
      Sadly, it doesn’t help that heroism is such a thing today in art and entertainment in the U.S. Part of it is driven by the culture and the media that both drives it and amplifies what we want in life.
      Intellectualism apparently is dead and has been for decades. It's a sad occurrence that university having been the long-standing reason for higher education especially in the study of Liberal Arts is now considered a joke by the common American. This demonstrates how little is understood about the liberal arts and what they are about. The study of the Liberal Arts was the tradition throughout the centuries right up until the late 1970s. And if it had not been, we’d still be living in a feudal system or pounding rocks at the river to wash our sack clothes.
      Unfortunately, by the end of the 1970s, things changed and terribly so with many things having led up to it. The nation gave in totally and completely to overt hedonistic, materialistic and consumeristic behavior and values far and away more intensely than ever before.
      This is the legacy we live with today.
      It is now so profound and ingrained within us today that it is now normal to us. I remember when and how and why and who and what led to this while in that decade and it was and still is sickening.
      As part of a result of that, the liberal arts took a serious and deadly hit and were and have continued to be demonized ever since. As a result, the many centuries long purpose of what university and higher education was for ended. Up until the 1980s, people didn’t go to college because it meant it would provide them a high paying job. But by the 80s, going to college became that tool to guarantee it. It was a complete and utter 180 degrees turn from what university was meant for. Now, it largely has become a modern version of a trade school system providing education in the new trades. Those trades having all to do with technology, the sciences, etc. Nothing is inherently wrong with those areas of study, but they are far and away different in what they require from a student in terms of broadening the mind about the ways of humanity, where we’ve come from and where we hope to evolve into. The new areas are high, low, and equal. The Liberal Arts are more akin to quantum theory and fuzzy math. So, it requires a very different kind of thinking.
      So, by the late 1980s, MBAs became and still remain a dime a dozen. An MBA is in no way comparable to the Liberal Arts in terms of academic and intellectual requirements. It does not rate nearly as difficult or requires the kind of commitment. To think it compares to the study of Ancient Languages and Early Christianity and Aramaic Religions would be ludicrous.
      These are measurable items that are used by colleges for many reasons. One of which is to determine the requirements as well as the personal qualities deemed necessary for success within those majors. That was usually determined both by the written statement in the application and the interview by the Dean of whatever major within the LA’s an applicant was going for.
      However, the conservative elements in the country hated the liberal arts, as they blamed the “over educated” students for being responsible for all the changes they protested against during the 50s and 60s. Thus, it was openly hostile about this and has remained ever since.
      However, their disdain for higher education and the reasons for it were largely true. As is always the case; there were other and many varied reasons along with what occurred during the. 1950s and 1960s. A highly educated, and intellectually inquisitive society is not just the backbone of a democratic nation, but a requirement.
      Sadly, over the decades the constant degradation, putting down, and pejoratives created and then aimed at education and those who are or were interested in it took its toll. American society was a fundamentally different beast up between the end of the Great Wars and the late 1970s. Many changes and situations arose both by happenstance and by purpose to lead us down a very ugly road. Now we're around three generations deep in mucky emotion based shallow thinking. And it would take five times that to undue it. But only if that society was truly concerned enough to do so. The damage has long since been done. Intellectually we are far behind many nations, and it is beginning to create cracks in just about every area of society.
      It is true that the more educated one is, particularly in the higher-minded areas of learning, the more one begins to see the injustices humans commit upon one another and the horrible effects they lead to. But not just on those who are the victims, but also on the society as a whole; economically, socially, culturally, educationally, and on and on. What one does with this is dependent largely upon the level of compassion they inherently have and or whether they care enough to develop that further.
      What Americans have either lost sight of, or worse--has come to accept as the proper and normal way of thinking and living is the following.
      Wealth always seeks more wealth, and then ways to maintain and increase it. It doesn’t like competition in that respect, and it doesn’t like rules or regulations getting in its way because wealth by its base nature is aggressive. Being so, it will pull out all the stops, commit the most atrocious acts to succeed. It will flatter, cajole, and befriend to achieve goals. Failing that it will use force, violence, betrayal, deceit, lie, and murder if necessary. And it will hide those acts or worse; present them as necessary and or color them as being for the most noble of reasons in-order to convince its tribe or save face.
      This is well known on all levels both intellectually and emotionally. However, the lower the education level, or education lacking in history, sociology, philosophy, language, etc… the less capable or even interest will arise regarding such things. Compassion is not something all are born with in equal or abundant amounts. Most often it has to be fostered, worked--just like any other personality trait we wish to develop.
      Today, compassion, kindness, generosity are looked upon as a weakness. Yet in a very schizophrenic way, our society still likes to believe in the mythologies of how noble it is. Maybe we were four generations ago…
      Unfortunately, the more self-interested a culture is and focused on the material or worse--consumerist and now corporatist ideals the chances are that society will die. It is known as social moral decay.
      Also, unfortunately this is where we are and have been for a good two decades or more. Those born in the late 90s or later now lack the perspective of having lived in a somewhat different America thus, naturally think that today’s society is no different than fifty years ago. And in some ways that is true. But we’ve gone down a seriously dark path since then and there is no sign or interest a large enough percentage of our population to reverse it.
      So, returning to what we’re actually talking about here; art reflects and informs us about the society it leaves behind. More so than the direct study of other sciences.
      So, take a good look at the art produced today. Compare it to the art of previous eras in human history and seriously compare and contrast as best you can while separating your own values, ideas of worth, normalcy, and acceptance from the process. This is one small element of learning how to study the ways of humanity within the Liberal Arts, and we’ve lost it almost entirely. This is also something that we’ve only learned how to do in the past one hundred. years. As such, these sciences are still in their infancy.
      What you will see will be an amplification of what is in the minds and hearts of the people you call your tribe. It will expose their values, the emotional well-being, their concerns of what is important, and whether or not they even give a damn to learn and perfect the basics of the art they claim to be part of. If a society can no longer do that but rather take the short route to what they desire (which is usually some form of guaranteed success or notoriety) … well, I think you get my point

    • @gemini62167
      @gemini62167 19 дней назад

      @@ilyanagalen9320 ​ LOL, so true. I've come to think of those who use the "I'm breaking the rules" tactic as someone who doesn't know the rules in the first place and hasn't any interest in learning them. You see this in a lot of art today regardless of the medium. It's an unfortunate leftover from a time when those who actually did know the rules and broke them, did so successfully. And now every edgy, quick fame seeking, and cool wannabe uses this as a standard for their work. It’s the “Hot Topix” tweeny version within all the arts today, and music is no exception. Technology has contributed to it ever so much more!
      Sadly, it doesn’t help that heroism is such a thing today in art and entertainment in the U.S. Part of it is driven by the culture and the media that both drives it and amplifies what we want in life.
      Intellectualism apparently is dead and has been for decades. It's a sad occurrence that university having been the long-standing reason for higher education especially in the study of Liberal Arts is now considered a joke by the common American. This demonstrates how little is understood about the liberal arts and what they are about. The study of the Liberal Arts was the tradition throughout the centuries right up until the late 1970s. And if it had not been, we’d still be living in a feudal system or pounding rocks at the river to wash our sack clothes.
      Unfortunately, by the end of the 1970s, things changed and terribly so with many things having led up to it. The nation gave in totally and completely to overt hedonistic, materialistic and consumeristic behavior and values far and away more intensely than ever before.
      This is the legacy we live with today.
      It is now so profound and ingrained within us today that it is now normal to us. I remember when and how and why and who and what led to this while in that decade and it was and still is sickening.
      As part of a result of that, the liberal arts took a serious and deadly hit and were and have continued to be demonized ever since. As a result, the many centuries long purpose of what university and higher education was for ended. Up until the 1980s, people didn’t go to college because it meant it would provide them a high paying job. But by the 80s, going to college became that tool to guarantee it. It was a complete and utter 180 degrees turn from what university was meant for. Now, it largely has become a modern version of a trade school system providing education in the new trades. Those trades having all to do with technology, the sciences, etc. Nothing is inherently wrong with those areas of study, but they are far and away different in what they require from a student in terms of broadening the mind about the ways of humanity, where we’ve come from and where we hope to evolve into. The new areas are high, low, and equal. The Liberal Arts are more akin to quantum theory and fuzzy math. So, it requires a very different kind of thinking.
      So, by the late 1980s, MBAs became and still remain a dime a dozen. An MBA is in no way comparable to the Liberal Arts in terms of academic and intellectual requirements. It does not rate nearly as difficult or requires the kind of commitment. To think it compares to the study of Ancient Languages and Early Christianity and Aramaic Religions would be ludicrous.
      These are measurable items that are used by colleges for many reasons. One of which is to determine the requirements as well as the personal qualities deemed necessary for success within those majors. That was usually determined both by the written statement in the application and the interview by the Dean of whatever major within the LA’s an applicant was going for.
      However, the conservative elements in the country hated the liberal arts, as they blamed the “over educated” students for being responsible for all the changes they protested against during the 50s and 60s. Thus, it was openly hostile about this and has remained ever since.
      However, their disdain for higher education and the reasons for it were largely true. As is always the case; there were other and many varied reasons along with what occurred during the. 1950s and 1960s. A highly educated, and intellectually inquisitive society is not just the backbone of a democratic nation, but a requirement.
      Sadly, over the decades the constant degradation, putting down, and pejoratives created and then aimed at education and those who are or were interested in it took its toll. American society was a fundamentally different beast up between the end of the Great Wars and the late 1970s. Many changes and situations arose both by happenstance and by purpose to lead us down a very ugly road. Now we're around three generations deep in mucky emotion based shallow thinking. And it would take five times that to undue it. But only if that society was truly concerned enough to do so. The damage has long since been done. Intellectually we are far behind many nations, and it is beginning to create cracks in just about every area of society.
      It is true that the more educated one is, particularly in the higher-minded areas of learning, the more one begins to see the injustices humans commit upon one another and the horrible effects they lead to. But not just on those who are the victims, but also on the society as a whole; economically, socially, culturally, educationally, and on and on. What one does with this is dependent largely upon the level of compassion they inherently have and or whether they care enough to develop that further.
      What Americans have either lost sight of, or worse--has come to accept as the proper and normal way of thinking and living is the following.
      Wealth always seeks more wealth, and then ways to maintain and increase it. It doesn’t like competition in that respect, and it doesn’t like rules or regulations getting in its way because wealth by its base nature is aggressive. Being so, it will pull out all the stops, commit the most atrocious acts to succeed. It will flatter, cajole, and befriend to achieve goals. Failing that it will use force, violence, betrayal, deceit, lie, and murder if necessary. And it will hide those acts or worse; present them as necessary and or color them as being for the most noble of reasons in-order to convince its tribe or save face.
      This is well known on all levels both intellectually and emotionally. However, the lower the education level, or education lacking in history, sociology, philosophy, language, etc… the less capable or even interest will arise regarding such things. Compassion is not something all are born with in equal or abundant amounts. Most often it has to be fostered, worked--just like any other personality trait we wish to develop.
      Today, compassion, kindness, generosity are looked upon as a weakness. Yet in a very schizophrenic way, our society still likes to believe in the mythologies of how noble it is. Maybe we were four generations ago…
      Unfortunately, the more self-interested a culture is and focused on the material or worse--consumerist and now corporatist ideals the chances are that society will die. It is known as social moral decay.
      Also, unfortunately this is where we are and have been for a good two decades or more. Those born in the late 90s or later now lack the perspective of having lived in a somewhat different America thus, naturally think that today’s society is no different than fifty years ago. And in some ways that is true. But we’ve gone down a seriously dark path since then and there is no sign or interest a large enough percentage of our population to reverse it.
      So, returning to what we’re actually talking about here; art reflects and informs us about the society it leaves behind. More so than the direct study of other sciences.
      So, take a good look at the art produced today. Compare it to the art of previous eras in human history and seriously compare and contrast as best you can while separating your own values, ideas of worth, normalcy, and acceptance from the process. This is one small element of learning how to study the ways of humanity within the Liberal Arts, and we’ve lost it almost entirely. This is also something that we’ve only learned how to do in the past one hundred. years. As such, these sciences are still in their infancy.
      What you will see will be an amplification of what is in the minds and hearts of the people you call your tribe. It will expose their values, the emotional well-being, their concerns of what is important, and whether or not they even give a damn to learn and perfect the basics of the art they claim to be part of. If a society can no longer do that but rather take the short route to what they desire (which is usually some form of guaranteed success or notoriety) … well, I think you get my point

  • @karizma8175
    @karizma8175 Месяц назад +87

    Almost a flat white at the C A F E

  • @zacharysullivan4522
    @zacharysullivan4522 Месяц назад +61

    "I'm not really interested in cooked food. Just heat that shit up for me and I'll be on my way."
    I hate when people say dumb shit and pretend it's clever or unique.

    • @samtotheg
      @samtotheg Месяц назад

      4 reals

    • @M.oonchild_
      @M.oonchild_ Месяц назад +2

      you probably have a lot of parties bc you're so fun at them?

    • @zacharysullivan4522
      @zacharysullivan4522 29 дней назад +27

      @@M.oonchild_ I don't have parties. I'm more into just having a bunch of people over for snacks, drinks, music, and socializing.

    • @jazzibel1515
      @jazzibel1515 29 дней назад

      Amen

    • @jazzibel1515
      @jazzibel1515 29 дней назад +1

      @@zacharysullivan4522 👍🏾 Yep 😆

  • @crapphone7744
    @crapphone7744 2 дня назад

    Love these people's music. Every time I hear them, I just say aaaahhhh.😊

  • @rowdyrudy3761
    @rowdyrudy3761 Месяц назад +123

    That’s such a vocalist thing to say

    • @rmv9194
      @rmv9194 Месяц назад +4

      Yeah, the band should play the wrong chords and Lets see if they are still not interested

    • @jazzibel1515
      @jazzibel1515 Месяц назад +2

      Please don’t stereotype vocalists. Some of us are musically knowledgeable and say things that make sense.

  • @rebeccawright4494
    @rebeccawright4494 Месяц назад +24

    I’m glad there are some people that understand music theory in the comment section

  • @paradidd
    @paradidd Месяц назад +8

    Soy band sounds good tho.

  • @NicoleEivissa
    @NicoleEivissa Месяц назад +2

    Great energy man, as always, enjoyed the cover🤘🤘🤘

  • @abuzzedwhaler7949
    @abuzzedwhaler7949 Месяц назад +29

    Bro's mind being blown by an inversions lol

    • @brians898
      @brians898 Месяц назад +6

      He's surprised she wrote a chord, bc she admitted she doesn't write chords. Pretty clear cut line of questioning once you know she has no idea what she wants ;)

    • @alejoqc9540
      @alejoqc9540 Месяц назад +4

      He found it by ear, so I'll say finding an old friend where you least expect is honestly mind blowing enough for me.

    • @LOLLYPOPPE
      @LOLLYPOPPE Месяц назад

      @@alejoqc9540he found it by trying until it was right.

  • @cayce9010
    @cayce9010 Месяц назад +15

    That blank stare while barely moving her lips and singing softly was terrifying.

  • @P-Bass_Pete
    @P-Bass_Pete Месяц назад +38

    I usually hate that "whisper singing" but there's something about the quality of her voice that is really soothing and beautiful.

    • @RaiyZa_
      @RaiyZa_ Месяц назад +4

      Her being monotone/indifferent kind of adds a weird flavor... just like her not caring for chords, but playing a chord.

    • @DJBrianOBrien
      @DJBrianOBrien Месяц назад +2

      Also, she barely moves her lips while singing, which kind of adds to the odd, melancholic sound.

  • @ryanlyle9201
    @ryanlyle9201 Месяц назад +1

    The most natural jam sesh I’ve seen in a while. This is how it should go.

  • @colinjensen
    @colinjensen Месяц назад +37

    All those years saying FACE in reference to the treble clef, and now you don’t see it when it’s literally staring at you in the FACE. 😂

  • @Anon44480
    @Anon44480 Месяц назад +58

    Just saved this to my “never write music again” playlist.

    • @davidemery4759
      @davidemery4759 Месяц назад +5

      I feel you. I’m still in my four chord kindergarten stage. Maybe a bridge that’s not the same progression, if I’m lucky. 😂

  • @eristicfreethinker2098
    @eristicfreethinker2098 Месяц назад +2

    Producers paying for the studio by the hour must love artists like her.

    • @harvey1954
      @harvey1954 24 дня назад

      All the while studying the latest brochure from Cancun.

  • @fercho2040
    @fercho2040 Месяц назад +3

    Im not interested in pizza, I just want to eat baked dough with cheese and pepperoni on it

  • @JScaranoMusic
    @JScaranoMusic Месяц назад +173

    Is that even a cluster chord though? Isn't it just an FM7 in 2nd inversion?

    • @craiglevy7256
      @craiglevy7256 Месяц назад +14

      Yup, 2nd inversion is great. Works super well when you want to sound cool, but not really add any tension or distract from the melody.

    • @BibbaBosh
      @BibbaBosh Месяц назад

      I was gonna say it sounds like a Dominant 7 chord

    • @josephn1000
      @josephn1000 Месяц назад +4

      But second inversion chords do create tension because the interval of a 4th is dissonant when between the bass and another voice. Also it does not sound like a dominant 7th because the dominant 7th has E flat and not E natural.

    • @craiglevy7256
      @craiglevy7256 Месяц назад

      @@josephn1000 a lot of the folks who avoid the 4th are trying to avoid tension with the Major 3rd of the chord. Since the 5th, just in a different octave, harmonizes with the 3rd it doesn’t cause as much tension as using the actual 4th of the chord, even though you still have a 4th interval. But you do still get a tiny bit of spice and a tasty little chord progression like this without breaking any “rules”.

    • @OldManJeff
      @OldManJeff Месяц назад +4

      @@BibbaBoshit’s not a dominant. It’s a Maj7

  • @patrickrichardson2518
    @patrickrichardson2518 Месяц назад +301

    If you listen closely to the background convo between the 2 dudes while the girls are talking, the guitar guy (I think) even says, " it's like an Fmaj7 over C" and piano dude quickly catches on.
    I'll never understand why certain musicians want to buck against music theory so hard. It's like they want to make music just to prove theory = BS. People like this (or at least how basically ALL of them are acting) seem to know enough to know what it means to "break the rules," yet they don't know enough to fully understand that music theory isn't about "rules."
    What everyone needs to internalize is that music theory is DESCRIPTIVE, not PRESCRIPTIVE. It isn't trying to tell you what to do, it's trying to describe what others have done and why it sounds the way it does.
    I can forgive the first little bit where dude's lightbulb finally goes off when he gets it - it can be very hard to apply ones knowledge of harmony across all possibilities in every context. Obviously the guy is trying to find a C chord that works, so yeah, he gets a little giddy over stacking a 3rd, a 4th, and a 6th on a root.
    What's really annoying is the 2 young ladies trying to nonchalantly flex their appreciation for "cluster," when this is anything but. In fact, in this voicing, all of the notes are at least a 3rd apart.
    I get it, theorists can be annoying, but hobbyist musicians preoccupied with "breaking" theory are so much worse.

    • @MaryVaughnMusic
      @MaryVaughnMusic Месяц назад +26

      Well said.

    • @brians898
      @brians898 Месяц назад +13

      we should share a beer or three and watch some good music, fellow musician

    • @g3ng4rb0i3
      @g3ng4rb0i3 Месяц назад +18

      Best comment on here.

    • @tylergates4075
      @tylergates4075 Месяц назад +8

      Exactly

    • @DanKaschel
      @DanKaschel Месяц назад +31

      I think you might be reading a little too much into the way they're gently teasing each other about things that are informed by much more context than just this clip. I don't support anti-intellectualism either but there's no point in getting trigger happy.

  • @jeffmorrison2915
    @jeffmorrison2915 Месяц назад +2

    As a licensed plumber, I also am not interested in chords.

  • @jordanfrancisco27
    @jordanfrancisco27 Месяц назад +1

    That "Oh!" Was something else. Almost made me spit my coffee hahahaha

  • @bsmith8166
    @bsmith8166 Месяц назад +111

    This is what NPR would sound like if they started a band.

    • @randallburghart4282
      @randallburghart4282 Месяц назад +13

      Except NPR would know music theory

    • @ComsiCaterpillar
      @ComsiCaterpillar Месяц назад

      @@randallburghart4282 Or would they? I mean NPR is actually some uninformed Hipster dibble, for dumb people with degrees that think university terminology makes them smart. I get "education major" vibes from NPR.

  • @xpaddy01
    @xpaddy01 Месяц назад +745

    “My lady likes a good cluster.” 😅❤ it is a gorgeous sound isn’t it? 😊

    • @DannyMcCaffrey
      @DannyMcCaffrey Месяц назад +14

      I’m a jazzy kind of singer and all I wanna hear is cluster chords. I just stack the scale on keys. Now I’m wondering if it’s a jazzy singer thing.

    • @benjaminholt6640
      @benjaminholt6640 Месяц назад +7

      it's pretty much the most basic chord

    • @TheLarryBrown
      @TheLarryBrown Месяц назад +1

      Hahahaha....neither Danny nor Benjiman got the joke....I wish I could go back to that age of innocence and just play Frisbee all weekend. Or....maybe not.

    • @benjaminholt6640
      @benjaminholt6640 Месяц назад

      @@TheLarryBrown Yup, don't get it. Frisbee's dope though

    • @RuthvenMurgatroyd
      @RuthvenMurgatroyd Месяц назад +5

      ​@@DannyMcCaffrey Don't think that was a cluster, bro.

  • @sarka4727
    @sarka4727 2 дня назад

    I love this in its entirety ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @Elliot995._.
    @Elliot995._. Месяц назад +1

    Beatiful song,lot of love from italy!!❤️❤️❤️

  • @d.prestonpeek9460
    @d.prestonpeek9460 Месяц назад +211

    Tells the bass player: "I'm not interested in chords, just play a lot of notes really close together"
    The bass player, feeling every sentiment of that sentence: "Yes."

    • @gidpumps6548
      @gidpumps6548 Месяц назад

      In other words, she's musically illiterate, and all the musicians in the room are trying to understand what she calls a bunch of notes close together when she could've just been like oh yeah c,d,f,g or whatever maybe play this chord

    • @hanovergreen4091
      @hanovergreen4091 Месяц назад +3

      Classic line :)

    • @petrosmiskos
      @petrosmiskos Месяц назад +9

      I am a bass player, and I nod affirmatively in pretentious acknowledgment of what you just said.

    • @itsirrelevant4565
      @itsirrelevant4565 Месяц назад +10

      This is such a good comment. The ones being left by I assume pianists and my fellow guitarists about her disrespecting theory is beyond me. None of us would be upset or surprised to find out Hendrix didn’t know what a paradiddle or lilt was called. We would just be happy he was Hendrix 🤷‍♂️

    • @diavolacciosatanasso
      @diavolacciosatanasso Месяц назад +4

      ​@@itsirrelevant4565you won't be surprised that I don't know either.

  • @budtrom
    @budtrom Месяц назад +27

    That's a chord...FM7. Now I question all of you

    • @TheThingoftheSky
      @TheThingoftheSky Месяц назад +2

      Yuh, that's like saying I don't like a painter, cause he doesn't know the chemical contents of his paints.

    • @budtrom
      @budtrom Месяц назад +14

      @@TheThingoftheSky it's completely different...more like the painter doesn't know the basic colors. A major seventh chord is basic music theory.

    • @josephcolon5812
      @josephcolon5812 Месяц назад +7

      @@TheThingoftheSkyall great painters know color theory, all great poets know grammar, all great musicians know theory. Being illiterate isn’t something to boast about.

    • @TheThingoftheSky
      @TheThingoftheSky Месяц назад

      @@josephcolon5812 ​@josephcolon5812 my favourite artists, one of the most influential musicians of the last century have no idea what music "theory" is, nor knoe any of these fancy chord names
      So there you go, yes?

    • @TheThingoftheSky
      @TheThingoftheSky Месяц назад

      @@budtrom "it's completely different"
      That's just a matter of perspective

  • @sa9amisan
    @sa9amisan 2 дня назад

    oh my God this is a beautiful look into music nerds just nailing it.

  • @leviwinger5658
    @leviwinger5658 11 часов назад

    I love all of this ❤

  • @andrewmize823
    @andrewmize823 Месяц назад +9

    Reminds me of a guy I jammed with who didn't believe in tuning his bass. Then he turned around complained that everything on the tape sounded atrocious.

  • @herrgrau
    @herrgrau Месяц назад +219

    That's one way to say 'I have no idea about music theory'

    • @ACSuperstar
      @ACSuperstar Месяц назад +10

      Correct! I can play instruments but was never taught by anyone (other than myself). I know nothing of music theory or chords. I just know how to make the sound I want or how to replicate a pattern of sound I hear. And I don't deny it. Lol

    • @herrgrau
      @herrgrau Месяц назад +17

      @@ACSuperstar There's nothing wrong with that. I'm not great with music theory either. But saying 'I don't believe in chords' is just a rather childish way to cope with the fact that you do not know something - why not say 'I don't know this YET. There's still a lot of interesting and useful things about the topic I love left to learn'. Here are two great video to illustrate: m.ruclips.net/video/Ar_vR0F-IPw/видео.html
      and
      m.ruclips.net/video/WknTbYOet4c/видео.html

    • @fauxintellectual5299
      @fauxintellectual5299 Месяц назад +15

      she's just joking about the fact that she doesn't think by using chords

    • @sunkintree
      @sunkintree Месяц назад +6

      @@karlsalocks I can't parse this comment. are the hipsters the ones who know theory or the ones who don't lol

    • @recorrel
      @recorrel Месяц назад +2

      No, that's a way to say I'm not interested in the way to name the clusters.

  • @AEJones-dl9nn
    @AEJones-dl9nn 6 дней назад +1

    Oh man this is reminding me of uni. God I’m glad I don’t have to spend time with people like this anymore.

  • @ardellolnes5663
    @ardellolnes5663 8 часов назад

    Beautiful voice *tears up*

  • @sparkledowner
    @sparkledowner Месяц назад +19

    I think every composer/writer has that phase after realizing close voicings sound cool, "that sounds dope I'll do that for a few years" Lol

  • @Meyzen76
    @Meyzen76 Месяц назад +8

    This reminds of the SNL skit with the Schweaty Balls. They talk very….
    “yeah….yeah…I know….yeah…it does….yeah”.

  • @Jendal54
    @Jendal54 5 дней назад

    Trop sympa l’ambiance avec et les tapis et tout 🥰

  • @oskarmac14
    @oskarmac14 25 дней назад +1

    Nataly’s voice is so beautiful.

  • @marcop1587
    @marcop1587 Месяц назад +90

    I thought hipster culture would be extinct by now

    • @mirak63
      @mirak63 Месяц назад +6

      he just forgot to shave
      for 2 years

    • @LeeCzere
      @LeeCzere Месяц назад +2

      It's always been there, and always will. These are the days of our lives

    • @santoy1000
      @santoy1000 26 дней назад

      She thinks she’s hipster ..I guess everyone else is probably just laughing at her stupidity ..I certainly am although her so go g is probably even funnier than her lack of musical knowledge 😂

    • @gamevne
      @gamevne 22 дня назад

      They are insufferable aren't they

  • @Scotty_0077
    @Scotty_0077 Месяц назад +394

    Your voices are all that soothing NPR vibes!

    • @Eric-nn9xf
      @Eric-nn9xf Месяц назад +1

      NPR is bullshit.

    • @alfiedavies2894
      @alfiedavies2894 Месяц назад +12

      I think having their voices played back to them in real time gives it that vibe cos it kind of affects the way they naturally speak.

    • @matthewrease2376
      @matthewrease2376 Месяц назад +21

      There's nothing soothing about NPR.

    • @Scotty_0077
      @Scotty_0077 Месяц назад +1

      @@alfiedavies2894 yeah that always messes me up.

    • @Scotty_0077
      @Scotty_0077 Месяц назад

      @@matthewrease2376 yeah, you’re probably right.

  • @OGEdger
    @OGEdger 29 дней назад +1

    Same. I'm not interested in rhymes, I just end song phrases with words that sound alike.

  • @anescorpion
    @anescorpion 20 дней назад +1

    Fmaj7 and Emaj7 in second inversion. 😊 Nice.
    "Im not interested in chords" ... sounds like "I don't like to learn anything about a music harmony, but I like the chords" 😂😂

  • @LeviSky7
    @LeviSky7 Месяц назад +81

    F major 7 second inversion (5th is in the bass)

    • @petiscarabe1583
      @petiscarabe1583 Месяц назад +2

      yep

    • @panagdimi
      @panagdimi Месяц назад +4

      Yep but that's verbose; the proper notation (you'd see in a professionally written chart) is Fmaj7/C.

    • @frankslade33
      @frankslade33 Месяц назад +4

      @@panagdimi "The thing you wrote in a RUclips comment was verbose because you wrote it like a RUclips comment, whereas in some other context it is written shorter"
      It is even shorter in Chinese, just one symbol.

    • @LuckyFlesh
      @LuckyFlesh Месяц назад +3

      @@panagdimi He wasn't doing notation, he was writing out what it was for people that didn't know.

    • @vinn.5215
      @vinn.5215 Месяц назад

      F major 7 over c.

  • @Pomplamoose
    @Pomplamoose  Месяц назад +837

    “Who Cares” is available to stream, if you care.

    • @Jackmawer
      @Jackmawer Месяц назад +13

      who wouldn’t care 😂❤

    • @donbar5493
      @donbar5493 Месяц назад +6

      You guys wow ❤

    • @darksun9356
      @darksun9356 Месяц назад +8

      Your music is painting pictures in my mind
      👩‍🎨❄️

    • @vt4979
      @vt4979 Месяц назад +4

      I care

    • @asksalottle220
      @asksalottle220 Месяц назад +3

      Checked the comments for just that because I very much am.

  • @BlaqRaq
    @BlaqRaq 2 дня назад

    It sounds like a great melody in the making.

  • @babylonhasfallen1329
    @babylonhasfallen1329 Месяц назад +2

    This almost put me to sleep.

  • @flyballhdeg9775
    @flyballhdeg9775 Месяц назад +11

    This could be an SNL NPR skit.

  • @tonimarx6405
    @tonimarx6405 Месяц назад +2

    She's intersted in poles.

  • @patchthecat
    @patchthecat Месяц назад +27

    Dude on the piano has an ear that is beyond what the average person can even imagine the absolute perfection of 👌

    • @static-and-rust
      @static-and-rust Месяц назад +5

      Imagine being somewhat talented and skilled in music theory and having to work with her

  • @gtberg
    @gtberg Месяц назад +9

    I love chords! The subtleties of sound within chord structures are amazing! Bill Evans is my hero!

  • @drexartim560
    @drexartim560 Месяц назад +9

    Im a drummer so i'd be snacking by these times

  • @triniredman
    @triniredman Месяц назад +4

    Wow found you guys again. Over 12 years ago or so, my then wife and I discovered you guys. WE became big followers of you. These are a my favorite things was the first video we saw. It's been going on four years now since we split and divorced and finding you back has brought on a flood of memories when she and I use to watch and sing along to your stuff :(. But I'm gonna enjoy your music again though.

    • @ettab.7838
      @ettab.7838 Месяц назад

      Enjoy it all! Enjoy your life 😎

    • @TheNinePurity
      @TheNinePurity Месяц назад

      Just use the music to bring back the good memories of the relationship and avoid negativity at all cost. Think of the happy moments this music has brought to your life and stay positive brother. Keep listening and never give up on music no matter the memories. Music is life. It's amazing how a simple song can drastically change your mood and memories from years and years ago. That's what music is about, whether good or bad. Respect it and good luck to you.

  • @shh4
    @shh4 Месяц назад +4

    Is this a parody? These people consider themselves musicians?

  • @samgreen7293
    @samgreen7293 Месяц назад +77

    Gives one of those “I am not a musician,I’m an artist” type vibes. 😒

  • @mikejohnson9944
    @mikejohnson9944 Месяц назад +6

    At least one of them knows a little theory...

  • @vulzes
    @vulzes 10 дней назад

    its really interesting to see this. lately i’ve had a desire to learn to play guitar. i don’t want to hyper-fixate on the notes or the chords, i just want to make beautiful music that resonates within me.

  • @XRP747E
    @XRP747E Месяц назад

    Love the song... ❤

  • @MirridonOnslaught
    @MirridonOnslaught Месяц назад +9

    Not knowing the chords would just take longer. It doesnt matter your beliefs, chords are just names of the sound.

    • @jeffsimon2347
      @jeffsimon2347 Месяц назад +2

      exactly. categorizing (in this case, by chord) is just a tool, a means to an end.

    • @indigoplateau357
      @indigoplateau357 Месяц назад

      @@jeffsimon2347 If you don't categorize, you can't do the same thing again when the opportunity comes up, especially if the next opportunity is in an entirely different key