I'm glad that the guy who questioned his sexuality for the person he has a crush on and has feminine hobies is the most manliest man of the group. He deserves Naoto imo
@@HidinginPrivate It's not like Naoto doesn't like Kanji or anything. It's just that he doesn't take initiative and hang out with her often to find an opportunity to bond beyond the case.
When I first played this game, I was surprised at how directly this 2008 videogame dealt with toxic masculinity, something that's only somewhat recently entered mainstream(ish) discourse in a productive way. It was truly ahead of it's time, and it's probably still the best piece of media I've seen deal with it. By the end of his arc, Kanji doesn't become less masculine, he becomes more masculine, and he does so by recognizing and rejecting the toxic expectations that society forced upon him and being truly himself. Really great stuff.
His was such a great story, I'm willing to say it's one of the best social links I have seen in the series. So much work, so many themes, well laid and written into one character, to accept themselves despite differences from the norm. Non-standard interests, sexuality, looks, and personality. Both the Investigation Team and the fans of the series love him!
Unfortunately it seems that in some ways, society has regressed a bit. I find Naoto's story particularly interesting and important, to accept what you are and become a stronger person in the process. But it seems that has been lost to so many.
Every time without fail there are two spots in Kanji's link that make me cry. 1: When the kid calls him cool and wants more dolls. 2: When the kid and his mom defend him from the police. Being accepted by the world around you is something everyone wants and most struggle with it. This doesn't just pertain to sexuality, gender or any one thing for that matter. I am sure many have been in a situation where you wanted your parents to not scold you for a mediocre or bad grade, or been nervous to do something, like perform on a stage or the like, for fear that the audience or your peers will chastise you for.. not being good enough. Not being good enough is something I struggled with as I was never the best at anything, though noticeably good at certain things. Things my peers weren't particularly interested in, so I rarely felt acknowledged. Thus seeing people get this acceptance, this confirmation that they ARE good enough, makes me truly happy.
Here we go, my fav character! Kanji's social link helped me mature when I was younger as I had been worrying about my identity, like most kids my age. Questioning of sexuality, not getting along with most "macho" peers, and girls thinking I am strange since sex wasn't something I was jumping at the possibility of. Not only did I eventually settle with myself that I am who I am and who cared if everyone is going to like it or not, Kanjis social link has a very important message after that still sticks with me. That even though he says people who don't understand him can get bent, if you just assume people won't understand you and don't try to connect with them at all you're only really hurting yourself. Nowadays I have found friends who enjoy me for me and heck those "shallow macho guys" I didn't get along with in school was partly my own fault. I get along fine with other guys who like to work out a bunch now a days. It has made my life more fulfilled or complete to connect with these many different people. So to anybody out there who got burned by a few people for being "weird" or "strange" don't let that make you assume you're just a black sheep and that's how it will always be. If you look to make real connections with people eventually there is going to be people whom you can truly call friends and that better your life. Just like how Kanji found the investigation team :).
Same man! Helped me accept that doing traditional feminine things isnt wrong and doesn’t make me any less of a man. It makes me a stronger man to embrace what I enjoy.
The idea of acting aloof or aggressive as defense due to fears that you will not be accepted, or worse mocked, is something I think almost everyone can relate to at least once in their life. Ultimately, we all wear masks to get through certain situations or to be polite, but I think what Kanji shows us best is that we are more than just that mask, and that we can strip it off and be our true selves whenever our hearts call for it.
Kanji has such a strong place in my heart. The friend that introduced to Persona said that when he was in high school, he really didn’t like Kanji’s dungeon, but couldn’t put his finger on why. When we were in college he said that apparently the themes were apparently too much for him to handle because he didn’t even know he was in the closet at the time. I think that shows a lot about the writing, being able to affect someone without even realizing why they are connecting with the character. I think that Kanji and my friend are just completely tied in my mind, so he will always be special. Also the line where he asks if the killer is beating people up with TVs. We love our local doofus in this household. Great analysis as always!
Gotta bring up when yukiko slaps kanji only for her to apologize and say 'she'll do it more gentle next time' kanji is blushing as he says 'more... gentle?' I can't help but think Kanji likes that kind of thing, just a little bit XD
My favorite persona character ever, know you'll do him justice. Thanks for making these! EDIT: This video is beautiful, everything I wanted from his character analysis. The nice guy tough guy dichotomy in his boss fight is so obvious in retrospect, but I never considered it. 10/10
I had a real knack for sewing when I was young, and it did not go over well when I passed home EC with flying colors while all my male friends failed to show how manly they were. Kanji speaks to me on a real personal level.
Your analysis of Kanji's social link has me thinking about my love of singing. I've always loved singing, and when I was a kid I even wanted to be a singer, but my mother always put me down and told me to stop singing because I was bad at it. She wouldn't even let me sing along to the radio, and for a while, I actually did stop singing. Because of that though, I never got better until I got older and realized how messed up that was. I started singing again, and people even compliment my singing. I know I'm not the best singer out there, but I love it and will only get better if I continue.
My favorite member of the party and favorite Persona 4 character overall (only behind the culprit)! Kanji is so cool and I'm excited to see you dig into him!
I freaking love your analysis, especially bringing up the shifting of his character along with the polarity of the tarot he represents. Time to binge this series lol
Something that I wanted to talk about is his new design. Lots of fan disliked that design and wanted him to go back to what he originally looked. The entire point of his story is that he wasn't allowed to look like how he wanted because he feared he wouldn't look manly enough, and leave it to the fanbase to completely miss that. People who act like that are the type of people that pushed him to fit into the mold created by society.
Kanji is just a one of a kind character. One of my absolute favorites in gaming as a whole. The thing about his social link and Kanji as a character too is that, although yes, his character is about how an aspect of you doesn’t define you as a whole, it also displays how truly being manly involves more than just masculine traits. I remember reading a reply on Twitter a while ago. I don’t exactly remember what it said, but in summary, it basically said “the least toxic people, male or female, exhibit both feminine and masculine traits.” The idea that Kanji is both meant to be a protector and a caretaking really does bring out that the latter is still strong in its own right and Kanji’s growth shows the importance of achieving balance in comparison to limiting yourself.
Kanji's a good reminder that gender dysphoria can happen to anyone. He's in an environment that judges and labels him, tells him that he should act a certain way and have certain traits because he's a guy, and that guys liking feminine things isn't normal. Those social norms and gender roles made him deflect and protect himself, feel like he cannot be himself around others. Being constantly told that a man needs to be a certain way, and then failing to meet those expectations can lead to one feeling shame, guilt and question what they are. ... I relate, hard. Was born in a small rural town that had very strict views about how people should be. Got mocked and bullied for years, called.. every possible slur. I never matched the idea of masculinity, I was constantly called as a girl because of my physique, lack of interest in sports and other things. I never felt like I was a man because the environment kept telling me I didn't match the idea of one. Took me until high school to learn in psychology class how personality has absolutely nothing to do with sexual orientation and gender identity. I am a man, straight even, and I will never match the overall view of masculinity. And that is fine, as that whole view is just some subjective bs that people have decided upon. It doesn't really mean anything, and trying to enforce aspects of it is stupid and immature.
This is why people who say Kanji is gay or bi miss the entire point of his story. The whole point is that you can still be a man and like something that’s considered “girly”. The reality is, there isn’t anything that’s inherently girly or manly. There are things that more men do and things more women do but nothing is exclusive to a gender. Sexual orientation, like you said, has nothing to do with that. What you like to do as a hobby has nothing to do with who you like to sleep with.
@@xblade149 your sexual orientation (straight, gay, bi, whatever) is based solely on which gender you want to have sex with. A dude who wants to knit isn’t gay. Being gay means you’re a guy who likes to sleep with men. Thats why it’s called a SEXUAL orientation. Anything outside of sex has nothing to do with being straight, gay, bi, etc.
This analysis reminded me of how much I loved kanji. He’s just so unfailingly kind, even after all the mocking and identity struggles he’s gone through. I’ve always wanted to be like him - to have that same bravery and strength of character that he shows. Him learning about accepting himself and not hiding behind tough-guy defence mechanisms meant the world to me and hearing how deeply you delved into his character here was like a dream come true. The mythology & symbolism segments were particularly interesting and informative. Thank you for your hard work 💗💗💗
Kanji Tatsumi is the most important character in fiction to me. When I had first played Persona 4 back in the day, I was a kid with fleeting ideas of my bicurious sexuality and watching him struggle with something very similar made me feel seen. Kanji is just a person who wants to fully absorb himself in the things he loves, despite what society may say or think when they view him. He wants to sew, he wants to be respectful to people, and he wants to just get comfortable in a little corner and do those things. He fights for what he believes in and can grow angry when his steadfast views are challenged and the things he believes in are disrespected, and as someone who also grew up with that, I see myself a lot in Kanji. Nowadays, I am a trans woman who lives my life balancing my femininity and my masculinity as best I can, because I know now that no side of me should be completely shunned and dismissed, because growing up I had Kanji there as a role model to teach me that lesson. He's so much more than the Westernized Homosexual Jokes, he's the manliest man Inaba has every seen, and I wouldn't change a thing about him.
19:03 Take-Mikazuchi's skull on black design is likely a reference to Mexican wrestler La Parka/LA Park. Who in the US was nicknamed "The Chair Man" due to his fondness of using chairs as weapons.
it took me an internet search to realize arcana is a part of the megami tensei lore. (idk, before when i was watching your other analyses, i just thought you were really into tarot lore and had made connections between cards and these characters 😭😭) despite me not being a man, the way you described kanji's struggle to have his feminine side be accepted kinda hit hard. draws some parallels with naoto (and hey, that's who he likes!). i appreciate your hard work on this series, thank you for introducing me to it!
your true passion showed through this HOUR LONG video. i’ve enjoyed every single one of these analysis videos, and this one, the one i’ve been WAITING for, is honestly the cherry on top. hats off to you dude, really
Kanji is really one of my favorites characters in all of Persona. The story of being misunderstood is something everyone can relate to at some point in their life.
I cannot express how much this video Broke me emotionally, As a guy who resembles Kanji in many ways, Being rather Tall, Muscular, and Masculine, While also being the Rule following type, who feels he should put on some type of intimidation tactic, and someone who also Thinks about his Past alot of the time, mostly about certain comments from Certain people regarding the things that I enjoy, this Video is Really scarily Helpful to me, 30:25 Especially this segment specifically where you got really Personal is extremely accurate to most of my struggles, Hell even Writing this comment is Scary itself thinking about who’s gonna read it seeing how emotional I am getting, but it doesn’t really matter as long as I enjoy what I’m doing (I love writing) I love making Videos that share the type of media and Genres I enjoy, Tho there are still things that I don’t like posting, from fear of how people I know will react, but now this has made me see things in a completely different light, everything I believe in feels like they just faded away simultaneously, it’s so hard to describe Thank you for making this video Especially the other videos for this series, The Rise one also hit hard, I think I will be going on my days while remembering the messages this Video, and Persona 4 were trying to convey front and centre
During the personal segment, I noticed the little big planet series. You're so phenomenal for having those fr, I love everything you've brought to the table, and I can relate a little bit to feeling a little rejected when someone doesn't feel too into something I like, you're really good at putting emotions and thoughts into words. Thank you so much for this series, it's been nothing short of amazing
Kanji is one of the most relatable characters in any Persona game to me and I will always be grateful for him. Thank you for covering him in a way that really gets to the meat and potatoes of what he's about - in a way describing Kanji helped me to find a better way of describing myself when I don't have the words to :'] ALSO THAT LINE DURING THE BEAUTY PAGEANT SCENE IS *SO* CUTE YOU'RE RIGHT
Fantastic video!! Kanji and Naoto in particular hold really special places in my heart, he has so many good lines and nuance brought to life by a fantastic vocal performance, and this video was v fun to watch and learn from- particularly the historical / mythological aspects! Very interesting!
Kanji is by far one of my favorite characters of the game! just such a cool dude that acts so nice. also very good job on the writing, analysis and editing on this video, absolutely great if i were to choose a word to describe this video it would be ''Strong'' :-)
My favorite analysis video so far man! All the small character details mixed with so many cool edits make these so worthwhile to watch. Love your stuff I can't wait for the next one :)
i find myself identifying with kanji a lot, so much so that discovering someone that i shared so many parallel experiences with in a 2008 jrpg sort of took me aback. thank you for doing him justice, it feels as though you are doing me and others like me justice as well
Really enjoying this series Hiding; Kanji is my absolute favorite persona character so this was a real treat! Looking forward to all the parts that come next!
Honestly when i saw just the thumbnail of this video alone i was honestly sort of scared. I watched till the end and i am thankful that i did, this video was so well done and so beautifully put together that no words can begin to describe how much I enjoyed this video. I don't want to bore you with all the details so I'll keep it brief; thank you for making this video-no thank you for being here and making these videos, i hope you never stop and continue to create and upload these wonderful videos. I learned a lot and I've honestly come to like Kanji a lot more now. Thank you.
Thank you for putting effort into this analysis. I've only said this once to a friend, Kanji is one of the only persona characters I relate to the most, especially in regard to wanting to be accepted for who they are, being annoyed by society dictating gender roles and expectations and locking up hobbies in fear of being ridiculed. Sexuality is being challenged or mocked at because of having a different preference from everyone else. I never get sick of doing his social link because it is one of the series' most well-done party social links. What I don't look forward to on repeated playthroughs is sitting through cutscenes of the investigation team clowning him. It's stupid that most of the game pins him as an easy punching bag to make jokes at his expense repeatedly. It makes me wonder why he is still friends with Yusuke, Teddie, and Rise after the investigation was over.
PRIVATE MY GUY, you have done it again. I’m glad to finally watch the social link that actually made me tear up. To be a man is to be able to prove yourself to you and yourself til you can prove it to others. From one man to another, I thank you for this video.
Such a great story! Like many others I relate very strongly to Kanji's identity questioning. Kanji's story is really uplifting in that regard. Thanks for the continually excellent work!
I will say, in Yu's defense, that even if Kanji is a well meaning person, he does have a very aggressive personality and Yu's first introduction to Kanji was him threatening to kick the crap out of Yu and his friends for hanging around him. Kanji also bragged at one of the Investigation Team meetings that he intimidated some kid into giving him notes about the case and this is how the gang came to realize that everyone who was thrown into the Midnight Channel had shown up on TV. With that in mind, it's not too unreasonable for Yu to assume he might be a bully...though I do think Kanji deserved the benefit of the doubt. Just my opinion, but I think part of the reason Kanji is so enamored with Naoto is partly due to some of their similar struggles. Particularly when it comes to how they've alienated themselves from others, but also how their interests don't align with their gender and how much they struggle to come to terms with their own masculinity/femininity. And part of it is acceptance too. Naoto has a similar issue actually, where she develops an unhealthy obsession with Yu when romanced, to the point of being a self-admitted stalker. There actually was a two hour long video from someone who went into depth about P4's problems. And among his biggest issues were Kanji and Naoto. I didn't agree with his main reasoning (lgbt stuff), though he did bring up some interesting points. Anyone who's seen that video probably knows which one I'm talking about, but to be on the safe side and avoid and potential comment war on the uploader, I won't name it here. Anyway, great video as always! I can't wait to see Naoto.
I agree with the first part. First impressions always matter. Like how my first impression with rise was basically what Yosuke thought of her being this cheery celeb and stuff. But then you learn more about her and get used to her. Same thing with kanji. I was like “whoa dude you’re being a bit too aggressive” at first. Also I think the other RUclipsr you’re talking about is m********r or k***h one of those two. I remember kinda cringing about their kanji and naoto sections it just felt like a twitter user trying to explain the game at face value, especially the lgbt stuff you mentioned. I hate making these jokes, but it literally felt like the “persona fan playing their favorite game for the first time” or “persona fan can’t read” memes something like that
@@maxenswlfr1877 I remember the scene and he changed because Yu was staring at him. He wasn´t serious about it, of course, Kanji isn´t that type of person. But that is the point of his arc: the image that others have of him because his reactions and how he has to have self-control instead of bite back.
Thank you so much for making this video, the amount of effort you put into the analysis and how deep you went to disect a character a scomplex as this just impresses me Kanji quickly became one of my favourite characters evevr due how relatable his experiences and story were and thanks to you i was able to relive and remember why i loved this character so much and how much he meant to me again just like when i was playing it for the first time
The fragment around 30th minute, when you talk about not trying to convince others to see the things you like, that felt like talking straight to me. When talks go to things I like, I usually say "nah, not much"/"just this and that". When it does go out that I like anime, manga, games, I have this manner of talking those things down, or mentioning weird parts of them. Something I usually regret later, but can't not do them... Overall I guess I don't like talking about myself/things I like because I'm scared that what I'm saying is boring to the other person... And~ In regard to the video. Damn, I adore Kanji... And you did him justice! He's such a cinnamon roll of a character, and so well-written.
Something I don't know if it was touched on or anything, like if i missed it. But including in the rose imagery, rose in Japanese, as most know, is "bara." This is also used to refer to material written and/or drawn for gay men by gay men about gay men, often depicting men who are very masculine especially in contrast to yaoi, material written for women by women about gay men. The term "bara" in this sense comes from a magazine printed from the 70's to 2008 that included gay male interests and culture called "Barazoku," or "Rose Tribe" I also think, if Yosuke was intended to be dealing with his sexuality as well, it makes a ton of sense that at that time in the story, he is the only party member that has a natural disadvantage to Shadow Kanji, as a manifestation of confused feelings about how you present and what it means.
This video really helped me to understand myself as someone who struggles a lot with their own concept of masculinity. I can really identify with Kanji. I watched your video and went: "That's me!" Lol. I've never even played a Persona game before, but this video has already made me a fan. Thank you for all the hard work you put into making this for yourself and for everyone else. Your work has had a substantial impact on how I view the world and myself. Please continue to make high quality video essays. I'm rooting for you, Hiding-kun!
This has to be my favourite analysis of yours yet! Kanji was already my favourite character and this video helped to understand him even more. The whole message about not being ashamed of what you like and instead take pride in it was really inspiring
I just started this video but I can already tell you went above and beyond more than you usually do and it’s what Kanji deserves. Thanks for all you do
Thank you for another amazing video. Everything here wraps up Kanji's character perfectly and I couldn't have it any better for my man, my guy Kanji Tatsumi.
im glad you didnt deny his queerness or call him gay, two things that really tick me off cus he is at the VERY least bisexual with a preference for women (hes just like me fr), and at most pansexual. it irritates me cus i identify with kanji a lot for several reasons, one of which is his queerness so when people call him gay or refuse to acknowledge his bisexuality i tend to take it personally lol
Just commenting to boost the algo-whatever, we needa get this man CASH gonna have to binge alla these over a day once you finish, maybe a few days, attention span, whatever still, great shit! love to see a new Hiding in Private video
My mom always said a real man wears whatever color he wants because showing one’s masculinity is done through personal expression and all colors represent moments of our lives and real men accept this.
A random comment just to say the transition from the piano version of Way of Life into that song from the Catherine Full Body OST at 31:45 really impressed me. I had to run it back for a second!
I don't know how right I am about this but either way I'm glad that this video dive's into "the fear of art being misunderstood" with us being around 1-2 months from persona 5's port and probably other things releasing that will be reintroduced to newer and vaster audiences. It was nice to hear your thoughts and analytics on this character as one thing that was definitely lost on me was the sexuality stuff even though the story still hit home with it's idea of finding self and defining manliness. Also massive props and respect for the hour of footage and hours of editing it took for this video to be made and it's nice to scroll down and see that you reply to most comments even if the response is short. Anyway I hope to see you continue these videos even if I can't entirely wrap my head around everything being put on the table. Still thank you for covering so much of this game that's very close to my heart now and I pray that I won't forget about it as time passes or it's messages.
30:28 to put what I think you're saying into easier to digest words, Media is art Art is the expression of the inner workings of it's creator's mind through an abstract method and thus media IS a reflection of how people think and feel, A person's thoughts and feelings effect their actions and choices People feel strongly about media because by rejecting or misunderstanding media you are in fact rejecting or misunderstanding an aspect of someone and anyone with similar thoughts and feelings. If this isn't what you ment please correct me so that I may edit this to match what you ment.
34:00 Ah yeah, the Pink Alligator most bitter-sweet Sun arcana link. Pink to my understanding is a traditionally masculine color, at least in regard to Bushido(?) It had to do with how Samurai understood that, like the sakura blossoms, their time in life and splendor would (often) be short live, so no matter what, they had to make the most of the time they had, in battle and in peace.
Just found your channel, very interesting hearing you talking about persona 4, recently I been playing it again, I leave mi comment for support, Keep the good work !!!!!
I'm early in the video, but I wanted to bring up one important thing: maybe this isn't as well known to western straights, but bathhouses being a site for gay cruising was also a big thing in western history, even since Roman times and despite various laws against it. Pretty sure they exist to this day, although to a much lesser degree. In fact, I think they only fell in popularity due to laws on prostitution? Don't quote me on that. So maybe for folk who don't know much queer history, their mind goes to 'don't drop the soap,' but for me at least, the context is actually very similar to the original Japanese.
I'm glad that the guy who questioned his sexuality for the person he has a crush on and has feminine hobies is the most manliest man of the group. He deserves Naoto imo
Poor Kanji, if only Naoto liked him back...
@@HidinginPrivate I'd like to think that the necklace she wore after the timeskip ending is evidence of her liking him back
@@floatingpasta8099 I can agree with that. Naoto had *a* obsession with yu, but that dissapeared over time and all that.
But Chad Narukami gets all the hoes
@@HidinginPrivate It's not like Naoto doesn't like Kanji or anything. It's just that he doesn't take initiative and hang out with her often to find an opportunity to bond beyond the case.
Kanji is straight up the “this is what peak masculinity looks like” bit, and we love him because of it.
He is peak
You saying Kanji isn't peak masculinity?
@@ironwraith852 I'm saying he absolutely IS peak masculinty.
@@shadowfire1500 ah, I see. Dunno how I misinterpreted that.
@Iron Wraith you saying he likes dudes?
When I first played this game, I was surprised at how directly this 2008 videogame dealt with toxic masculinity, something that's only somewhat recently entered mainstream(ish) discourse in a productive way. It was truly ahead of it's time, and it's probably still the best piece of media I've seen deal with it.
By the end of his arc, Kanji doesn't become less masculine, he becomes more masculine, and he does so by recognizing and rejecting the toxic expectations that society forced upon him and being truly himself. Really great stuff.
Agreed. It's great stuff
His was such a great story, I'm willing to say it's one of the best social links I have seen in the series. So much work, so many themes, well laid and written into one character, to accept themselves despite differences from the norm. Non-standard interests, sexuality, looks, and personality. Both the Investigation Team and the fans of the series love him!
Unfortunately it seems that in some ways, society has regressed a bit. I find Naoto's story particularly interesting and important, to accept what you are and become a stronger person in the process. But it seems that has been lost to so many.
Every time without fail there are two spots in Kanji's link that make me cry.
1: When the kid calls him cool and wants more dolls.
2: When the kid and his mom defend him from the police.
Being accepted by the world around you is something everyone wants and most struggle with it. This doesn't just pertain to sexuality, gender or any one thing for that matter. I am sure many have been in a situation where you wanted your parents to not scold you for a mediocre or bad grade, or been nervous to do something, like perform on a stage or the like, for fear that the audience or your peers will chastise you for.. not being good enough.
Not being good enough is something I struggled with as I was never the best at anything, though noticeably good at certain things. Things my peers weren't particularly interested in, so I rarely felt acknowledged. Thus seeing people get this acceptance, this confirmation that they ARE good enough, makes me truly happy.
Here we go, my fav character!
Kanji's social link helped me mature when I was younger as I had been worrying about my identity, like most kids my age. Questioning of sexuality, not getting along with most "macho" peers, and girls thinking I am strange since sex wasn't something I was jumping at the possibility of. Not only did I eventually settle with myself that I am who I am and who cared if everyone is going to like it or not, Kanjis social link has a very important message after that still sticks with me. That even though he says people who don't understand him can get bent, if you just assume people won't understand you and don't try to connect with them at all you're only really hurting yourself. Nowadays I have found friends who enjoy me for me and heck those "shallow macho guys" I didn't get along with in school was partly my own fault. I get along fine with other guys who like to work out a bunch now a days. It has made my life more fulfilled or complete to connect with these many different people.
So to anybody out there who got burned by a few people for being "weird" or "strange" don't let that make you assume you're just a black sheep and that's how it will always be. If you look to make real connections with people eventually there is going to be people whom you can truly call friends and that better your life. Just like how Kanji found the investigation team :).
Same man! Helped me accept that doing traditional feminine things isnt wrong and doesn’t make me any less of a man. It makes me a stronger man to embrace what I enjoy.
Kanji is a very good boy some might even say the best boy
Indeed, people do say that
I love that Kanji's story isn't about being gay.
It's about having Pride in oneself. I can see why some people can get confused
I mean it can be both
Being gay can give you the same struggle of lacking pride in yourself because of society, his unique sexuality definitely ties into it all
@@shorjaken4070 I honestly wouldn't have mind if it he really did end up being gay. That said, the Kanji we know how is actually damn cool imo.
I think its both for many, and I love how the game leaves that up to the player! Representation is so important
@@randomperson5289if you think Kanji’s gay you missed the point. you’re the exact type of person the character himself complains about.
an HOUR LONG hiding in private analysis video? a blessing. keep up the good work. I can't wait to watch this.
Yeah it's a big boy. The 3rd longest segment
@@HidinginPrivate the 3rd longest… but the longest one currently posted… 👀 can’t wait
The idea of acting aloof or aggressive as defense due to fears that you will not be accepted, or worse mocked, is something I think almost everyone can relate to at least once in their life. Ultimately, we all wear masks to get through certain situations or to be polite, but I think what Kanji shows us best is that we are more than just that mask, and that we can strip it off and be our true selves whenever our hearts call for it.
Kanji has such a strong place in my heart. The friend that introduced to Persona said that when he was in high school, he really didn’t like Kanji’s dungeon, but couldn’t put his finger on why. When we were in college he said that apparently the themes were apparently too much for him to handle because he didn’t even know he was in the closet at the time. I think that shows a lot about the writing, being able to affect someone without even realizing why they are connecting with the character. I think that Kanji and my friend are just completely tied in my mind, so he will always be special.
Also the line where he asks if the killer is beating people up with TVs. We love our local doofus in this household.
Great analysis as always!
Gotta bring up when yukiko slaps kanji only for her to apologize and say 'she'll do it more gentle next time' kanji is blushing as he says 'more... gentle?'
I can't help but think Kanji likes that kind of thing, just a little bit XD
Two things were awakened that day
My favorite persona character ever, know you'll do him justice. Thanks for making these!
EDIT: This video is beautiful, everything I wanted from his character analysis. The nice guy tough guy dichotomy in his boss fight is so obvious in retrospect, but I never considered it. 10/10
I hope you think I do! Hope you enjoy!
I had a real knack for sewing when I was young, and it did not go over well when I passed home EC with flying colors while all my male friends failed to show how manly they were. Kanji speaks to me on a real personal level.
Your analysis of Kanji's social link has me thinking about my love of singing. I've always loved singing, and when I was a kid I even wanted to be a singer, but my mother always put me down and told me to stop singing because I was bad at it. She wouldn't even let me sing along to the radio, and for a while, I actually did stop singing. Because of that though, I never got better until I got older and realized how messed up that was. I started singing again, and people even compliment my singing. I know I'm not the best singer out there, but I love it and will only get better if I continue.
My favorite member of the party and favorite Persona 4 character overall (only behind the culprit)! Kanji is so cool and I'm excited to see you dig into him!
Hope you enjoy!
I freaking love your analysis, especially bringing up the shifting of his character along with the polarity of the tarot he represents. Time to binge this series lol
Hope you enjoy your binge if you didn't already get to it! On the other end, the full video should be out within the month
Something that I wanted to talk about is his new design. Lots of fan disliked that design and wanted him to go back to what he originally looked.
The entire point of his story is that he wasn't allowed to look like how he wanted because he feared he wouldn't look manly enough, and leave it to the fanbase to completely miss that.
People who act like that are the type of people that pushed him to fit into the mold created by society.
30:30 - 31:35
thank you for sharing this small reel of stuff you're into, it is hard to share stuff with people sometimes with that fear of rejection.
Yeah, worse than rejection I feel tho is the feeling of a rejection based on misconception. I fear that
@@HidinginPrivate you're valid. it's why good boi Kanji is so relatable, being rejected for being misunderstood is worse than just rejection outright.
Kanji is just a one of a kind character. One of my absolute favorites in gaming as a whole. The thing about his social link and Kanji as a character too is that, although yes, his character is about how an aspect of you doesn’t define you as a whole, it also displays how truly being manly involves more than just masculine traits. I remember reading a reply on Twitter a while ago. I don’t exactly remember what it said, but in summary, it basically said “the least toxic people, male or female, exhibit both feminine and masculine traits.” The idea that Kanji is both meant to be a protector and a caretaking really does bring out that the latter is still strong in its own right and Kanji’s growth shows the importance of achieving balance in comparison to limiting yourself.
Being a man, and openly admitting to the "girly" things you like is the manliest thing ever
There's a reason Ryan Gosling as Ken is peak manliness
Indeed
THIS IS WHY KANJIS MY FAVORITE
Do you mean Kanji I hope you don't mean ken from persona 3
@@gamingdudedonal3312 Ken from the Barbie movie
Ryan Gosling, the guy from Drive and Blade Runner 2049
@@gamingdudedonal3312 Ryan gosling playing a 10 year old??
Kanji's a good reminder that gender dysphoria can happen to anyone. He's in an environment that judges and labels him, tells him that he should act a certain way and have certain traits because he's a guy, and that guys liking feminine things isn't normal. Those social norms and gender roles made him deflect and protect himself, feel like he cannot be himself around others. Being constantly told that a man needs to be a certain way, and then failing to meet those expectations can lead to one feeling shame, guilt and question what they are. ... I relate, hard. Was born in a small rural town that had very strict views about how people should be. Got mocked and bullied for years, called.. every possible slur. I never matched the idea of masculinity, I was constantly called as a girl because of my physique, lack of interest in sports and other things. I never felt like I was a man because the environment kept telling me I didn't match the idea of one. Took me until high school to learn in psychology class how personality has absolutely nothing to do with sexual orientation and gender identity. I am a man, straight even, and I will never match the overall view of masculinity. And that is fine, as that whole view is just some subjective bs that people have decided upon. It doesn't really mean anything, and trying to enforce aspects of it is stupid and immature.
This is why people who say Kanji is gay or bi miss the entire point of his story. The whole point is that you can still be a man and like something that’s considered “girly”. The reality is, there isn’t anything that’s inherently girly or manly. There are things that more men do and things more women do but nothing is exclusive to a gender. Sexual orientation, like you said, has nothing to do with that. What you like to do as a hobby has nothing to do with who you like to sleep with.
@@AtracBreezywtf you mean by people you sleep with?
@@xblade149 your sexual orientation (straight, gay, bi, whatever) is based solely on which gender you want to have sex with. A dude who wants to knit isn’t gay. Being gay means you’re a guy who likes to sleep with men. Thats why it’s called a SEXUAL orientation. Anything outside of sex has nothing to do with being straight, gay, bi, etc.
@@AtracBreezy i mean yeah but also its pretty clear hes bi
@@angela-ro3evhow is it pretty clear? You can maybe infer it but it’s not cut and dry. The only thing that’s cut and dry is he’s not gay.
This analysis reminded me of how much I loved kanji. He’s just so unfailingly kind, even after all the mocking and identity struggles he’s gone through. I’ve always wanted to be like him - to have that same bravery and strength of character that he shows. Him learning about accepting himself and not hiding behind tough-guy defence mechanisms meant the world to me and hearing how deeply you delved into his character here was like a dream come true. The mythology & symbolism segments were particularly interesting and informative. Thank you for your hard work 💗💗💗
A small detail I like about the main story is that it's Kanji who figures out that the fog from the TV world is leaking into the real world.
This analysis felt so personal! I relate to a lot of the things mentioned. Thank you for the excellent video.
Kanji Tatsumi is the most important character in fiction to me. When I had first played Persona 4 back in the day, I was a kid with fleeting ideas of my bicurious sexuality and watching him struggle with something very similar made me feel seen. Kanji is just a person who wants to fully absorb himself in the things he loves, despite what society may say or think when they view him. He wants to sew, he wants to be respectful to people, and he wants to just get comfortable in a little corner and do those things. He fights for what he believes in and can grow angry when his steadfast views are challenged and the things he believes in are disrespected, and as someone who also grew up with that, I see myself a lot in Kanji. Nowadays, I am a trans woman who lives my life balancing my femininity and my masculinity as best I can, because I know now that no side of me should be completely shunned and dismissed, because growing up I had Kanji there as a role model to teach me that lesson. He's so much more than the Westernized Homosexual Jokes, he's the manliest man Inaba has every seen, and I wouldn't change a thing about him.
proud of you my goat
19:03 Take-Mikazuchi's skull on black design is likely a reference to Mexican wrestler La Parka/LA Park. Who in the US was nicknamed "The Chair Man" due to his fondness of using chairs as weapons.
Killed it again mate. I found new things to appreciate about his character and P4G
Thanks, I'm always interested in finding new stuff
it took me an internet search to realize arcana is a part of the megami tensei lore. (idk, before when i was watching your other analyses, i just thought you were really into tarot lore and had made connections between cards and these characters 😭😭)
despite me not being a man, the way you described kanji's struggle to have his feminine side be accepted kinda hit hard. draws some parallels with naoto (and hey, that's who he likes!). i appreciate your hard work on this series, thank you for introducing me to it!
I knew that your kanji video would be one of your longest cause oh boy there’s a lot to him
There sure is. The only longer segments are Naoto and Adachi
@@HidinginPrivate excited for Naoto she’s my favorite party member
Kanji seems to embody the idea of Platonic Love, a love of the mind that transcends the body
your true passion showed through this HOUR LONG video. i’ve enjoyed every single one of these analysis videos, and this one, the one i’ve been WAITING for, is honestly the cherry on top. hats off to you dude, really
Kanji is really one of my favorites characters in all of Persona. The story of being misunderstood is something everyone can relate to at some point in their life.
YO I LOVE THIS VIDEO
I cannot express how much this video Broke me emotionally, As a guy who resembles Kanji in many ways, Being rather Tall, Muscular, and Masculine, While also being the Rule following type, who feels he should put on some type of intimidation tactic, and someone who also Thinks about his Past alot of the time, mostly about certain comments from Certain people regarding the things that I enjoy, this Video is Really scarily Helpful to me, 30:25 Especially this segment specifically where you got really Personal is extremely accurate to most of my struggles, Hell even Writing this comment is Scary itself thinking about who’s gonna read it seeing how emotional I am getting, but it doesn’t really matter as long as I enjoy what I’m doing (I love writing)
I love making Videos that share the type of media and Genres I enjoy, Tho there are still things that I don’t like posting, from fear of how people I know will react, but now this has made me see things in a completely different light, everything I believe in feels like they just faded away simultaneously, it’s so hard to describe
Thank you for making this video Especially the other videos for this series, The Rise one also hit hard, I think I will be going on my days while remembering the messages this Video, and Persona 4 were trying to convey front and centre
I really liked your speech about how important art is, and how meaningful it is to share something you really enjoy
During the personal segment, I noticed the little big planet series. You're so phenomenal for having those fr, I love everything you've brought to the table, and I can relate a little bit to feeling a little rejected when someone doesn't feel too into something I like, you're really good at putting emotions and thoughts into words. Thank you so much for this series, it's been nothing short of amazing
Kanji is one of the most relatable characters in any Persona game to me and I will always be grateful for him. Thank you for covering him in a way that really gets to the meat and potatoes of what he's about - in a way describing Kanji helped me to find a better way of describing myself when I don't have the words to :']
ALSO THAT LINE DURING THE BEAUTY PAGEANT SCENE IS *SO* CUTE YOU'RE RIGHT
Fantastic video!! Kanji and Naoto in particular hold really special places in my heart, he has so many good lines and nuance brought to life by a fantastic vocal performance, and this video was v fun to watch and learn from- particularly the historical / mythological aspects! Very interesting!
These just keep me engaged the whole way through. Thank you for these so much. I can tell it's a lot of work.
Kanji is by far one of my favorite characters of the game! just such a cool dude that acts so nice. also very good job on the writing, analysis and editing on this video, absolutely great if i were to choose a word to describe this video it would be ''Strong'' :-)
My favorite analysis video so far man! All the small character details mixed with so many cool edits make these so worthwhile to watch. Love your stuff I can't wait for the next one :)
thanks for making me cry and reminding me how important kanji is to me, he's the character.
I've been waiting for the best boi's video and now its here! Thank you!
Indeed! I know some people were anticipating this for a while!
Damn. Here I am trying to be a Scrooge, and you just keep putting out banger videos like this one. Off to your Patreon it is I guess.
I appreciate the support. It helps a bunch
This man just keep making my Saturday so much better
Happy to hear
i find myself identifying with kanji a lot, so much so that discovering someone that i shared so many parallel experiences with in a 2008 jrpg sort of took me aback. thank you for doing him justice, it feels as though you are doing me and others like me justice as well
Ayeee I've been hype for this one to drop! Keep up the amazing work
Here it is! Hope you like it!
Really enjoying this series Hiding; Kanji is my absolute favorite persona character so this was a real treat! Looking forward to all the parts that come next!
Honestly when i saw just the thumbnail of this video alone i was honestly sort of scared. I watched till the end and i am thankful that i did, this video was so well done and so beautifully put together that no words can begin to describe how much I enjoyed this video. I don't want to bore you with all the details so I'll keep it brief; thank you for making this video-no thank you for being here and making these videos, i hope you never stop and continue to create and upload these wonderful videos. I learned a lot and I've honestly come to like Kanji a lot more now. Thank you.
I just finished Golden and im so happy to find the sheer amount of Golden content you have, great stuff!!
Let's go my boy Kanji get a whole hour!
The. Whole! Hour!
Thank you for putting effort into this analysis. I've only said this once to a friend, Kanji is one of the only persona characters I relate to the most, especially in regard to wanting to be accepted for who they are, being annoyed by society dictating gender roles and expectations and locking up hobbies in fear of being ridiculed. Sexuality is being challenged or mocked at because of having a different preference from everyone else.
I never get sick of doing his social link because it is one of the series' most well-done party social links. What I don't look forward to on repeated playthroughs is sitting through cutscenes of the investigation team clowning him. It's stupid that most of the game pins him as an easy punching bag to make jokes at his expense repeatedly. It makes me wonder why he is still friends with Yusuke, Teddie, and Rise after the investigation was over.
PRIVATE MY GUY, you have done it again. I’m glad to finally watch the social link that actually made me tear up. To be a man is to be able to prove yourself to you and yourself til you can prove it to others. From one man to another, I thank you for this video.
This series continues to be the BEST analysis of any Persona game I've ever seen. Amazing job dude!
Thank you! It'd be Sad if it was a disappointment considering this has taken close to a year haha
Such a great story!
Like many others I relate very strongly to Kanji's identity questioning. Kanji's story is really uplifting in that regard.
Thanks for the continually excellent work!
I will say, in Yu's defense, that even if Kanji is a well meaning person, he does have a very aggressive personality and Yu's first introduction to Kanji was him threatening to kick the crap out of Yu and his friends for hanging around him. Kanji also bragged at one of the Investigation Team meetings that he intimidated some kid into giving him notes about the case and this is how the gang came to realize that everyone who was thrown into the Midnight Channel had shown up on TV. With that in mind, it's not too unreasonable for Yu to assume he might be a bully...though I do think Kanji deserved the benefit of the doubt.
Just my opinion, but I think part of the reason Kanji is so enamored with Naoto is partly due to some of their similar struggles. Particularly when it comes to how they've alienated themselves from others, but also how their interests don't align with their gender and how much they struggle to come to terms with their own masculinity/femininity. And part of it is acceptance too. Naoto has a similar issue actually, where she develops an unhealthy obsession with Yu when romanced, to the point of being a self-admitted stalker.
There actually was a two hour long video from someone who went into depth about P4's problems. And among his biggest issues were Kanji and Naoto. I didn't agree with his main reasoning (lgbt stuff), though he did bring up some interesting points. Anyone who's seen that video probably knows which one I'm talking about, but to be on the safe side and avoid and potential comment war on the uploader, I won't name it here.
Anyway, great video as always! I can't wait to see Naoto.
I agree with the first part. First impressions always matter. Like how my first impression with rise was basically what Yosuke thought of her being this cheery celeb and stuff. But then you learn more about her and get used to her. Same thing with kanji. I was like “whoa dude you’re being a bit too aggressive” at first.
Also I think the other RUclipsr you’re talking about is m********r or k***h one of those two. I remember kinda cringing about their kanji and naoto sections it just felt like a twitter user trying to explain the game at face value, especially the lgbt stuff you mentioned. I hate making these jokes, but it literally felt like the “persona fan playing their favorite game for the first time” or “persona fan can’t read” memes something like that
That moment in his SL when they´re eating in Aiya the owner makes a comment and Kanji threats him with destroying the restaurant.
@@Amarant127 You forget that Kanji immediately changed his behavior when he noticed and said he would build it back better if he destroyed it
@@maxenswlfr1877 I remember the scene and he changed because Yu was staring at him. He wasn´t serious about it, of course, Kanji isn´t that type of person. But that is the point of his arc: the image that others have of him because his reactions and how he has to have self-control instead of bite back.
Naoto does what???
Video was excellently done like usual. Thanks for such in depth research!
Sure thing! I had fun learning along the way
I don't have much to say here but this series has been really facinating and ive learned a lot so thank you
really love watching/listening to your vids while doing my schoolwork, especially since ive been into p4g alot recently
Thank you so much for making this video, the amount of effort you put into the analysis and how deep you went to disect a character a scomplex as this just impresses me
Kanji quickly became one of my favourite characters evevr due how relatable his experiences and story were and thanks to you i was able to relive and remember why i loved this character so much and how much he meant to me again just like when i was playing it for the first time
Always look forward to your videos man, great way to start the day!
Thanks! Happy to hear, and hope you have a good one
The fragment around 30th minute, when you talk about not trying to convince others to see the things you like, that felt like talking straight to me.
When talks go to things I like, I usually say "nah, not much"/"just this and that". When it does go out that I like anime, manga, games, I have this manner of talking those things down, or mentioning weird parts of them. Something I usually regret later, but can't not do them... Overall I guess I don't like talking about myself/things I like because I'm scared that what I'm saying is boring to the other person...
And~ In regard to the video. Damn, I adore Kanji... And you did him justice! He's such a cinnamon roll of a character, and so well-written.
Something I don't know if it was touched on or anything, like if i missed it. But including in the rose imagery, rose in Japanese, as most know, is "bara." This is also used to refer to material written and/or drawn for gay men by gay men about gay men, often depicting men who are very masculine especially in contrast to yaoi, material written for women by women about gay men. The term "bara" in this sense comes from a magazine printed from the 70's to 2008 that included gay male interests and culture called "Barazoku," or "Rose Tribe"
I also think, if Yosuke was intended to be dealing with his sexuality as well, it makes a ton of sense that at that time in the story, he is the only party member that has a natural disadvantage to Shadow Kanji, as a manifestation of confused feelings about how you present and what it means.
This video really helped me to understand myself as someone who struggles a lot with their own concept of masculinity.
I can really identify with Kanji. I watched your video and went:
"That's me!"
Lol.
I've never even played a Persona game before, but this video has already made me a fan.
Thank you for all the hard work you put into making this for yourself and for everyone else.
Your work has had a substantial impact on how I view the world and myself.
Please continue to make high quality video essays.
I'm rooting for you, Hiding-kun!
All these character analysis videos are PEAK CONTENT! Thank you for all the work you put into these. So well done.
This has to be my favourite analysis of yours yet! Kanji was already my favourite character and this video helped to understand him even more. The whole message about not being ashamed of what you like and instead take pride in it was really inspiring
I just started this video but I can already tell you went above and beyond more than you usually do and it’s what Kanji deserves. Thanks for all you do
Thank you for another amazing video. Everything here wraps up Kanji's character perfectly and I couldn't have it any better for my man, my guy Kanji Tatsumi.
Loved the video! My boi Kanji’s time to shine!
Thanks! It finally arrived
Fun fact: he’s the youngest member of the Investigation Team
I thought that was Rise. Isn't she 15 come the events of Persona 4?
@@kingcamelot1395 she might be a bit older than Kanji
There's a scene where Rise explains that she's able to get a license since she's older than Kanji
@@kingcamelot1395It was confirmed in Golden that Rise is a little bit older.
im glad you didnt deny his queerness or call him gay, two things that really tick me off cus he is at the VERY least bisexual with a preference for women (hes just like me fr), and at most pansexual. it irritates me cus i identify with kanji a lot for several reasons, one of which is his queerness so when people call him gay or refuse to acknowledge his bisexuality i tend to take it personally lol
Truly excellent video best boy, I loved it! The amount of work and effort you put in it was worth it, thank you for what you do!
Just commenting to boost the algo-whatever, we needa get this man CASH
gonna have to binge alla these over a day once you finish, maybe a few days, attention span, whatever
still, great shit! love to see a new Hiding in Private video
Really cool video, made me feel comforted, thanks!
I’m new to this channel of yours and I can say is that I’ve grown respect for you and your content
My mom always said a real man wears whatever color he wants because showing one’s masculinity is done through personal expression and all colors represent moments of our lives and real men accept this.
I absolutely love his character. I think this analysis helped me figure out some things in my own life. So thank you
Well that's always great to hear. Hope you're doing well
Kanji is such a sweet boy, I love him, he's one of the best characters in all of persona
Yes yes
A random comment just to say the transition from the piano version of Way of Life into that song from the Catherine Full Body OST at 31:45 really impressed me. I had to run it back for a second!
I don't know how right I am about this but either way I'm glad that this video dive's into "the fear of art being misunderstood" with us being around 1-2 months from persona 5's port and probably other things releasing that will be reintroduced to newer and vaster audiences. It was nice to hear your thoughts and analytics on this character as one thing that was definitely lost on me was the sexuality stuff even though the story still hit home with it's idea of finding self and defining manliness. Also massive props and respect for the hour of footage and hours of editing it took for this video to be made and it's nice to scroll down and see that you reply to most comments even if the response is short.
Anyway I hope to see you continue these videos even if I can't entirely wrap my head around everything being put on the table. Still thank you for covering so much of this game that's very close to my heart now and I pray that I won't forget about it as time passes or it's messages.
Banger video. Good job!
Thanks! It took a while!
SHEEEESHHH one hour long vid. I'm going to enjoy this one
Sheeeeesh hope ya do
Excellent work once again!
Felt very close to heart.
Thank you. Just a cpuple more big ones left
Hype. Will definitely watch later
Glad to hear
kanji is so cool i wish delinquents were real
Damn, i love your videos. Theres so much to talk about this game. Thanks
I'm glad you do. There really is a lot. Thanks
30:28 to put what I think you're saying into easier to digest words,
Media is art
Art is the expression of the inner workings of it's creator's mind through an abstract method and thus media IS a reflection of how people think and feel,
A person's thoughts and feelings effect their actions and choices
People feel strongly about media because by rejecting or misunderstanding media you are in fact rejecting or misunderstanding an aspect of someone and anyone with similar thoughts and feelings.
If this isn't what you ment please correct me so that I may edit this to match what you ment.
Nope i think you got it-! That's what I was getting at
Man, I freaking love revisiting Kanji's story, I love the way he grows
34:00 Ah yeah, the Pink Alligator
most bitter-sweet Sun arcana link.
Pink to my understanding is a traditionally masculine color, at least in regard to Bushido(?)
It had to do with how Samurai understood that, like the sakura blossoms, their time in life and splendor would (often) be short live, so no matter what, they had to make the most of the time they had, in battle and in peace.
This video is work of art
Just found your channel, very interesting hearing you talking about persona 4, recently I been playing it again, I leave mi comment for support, Keep the good work !!!!!
Amazing video as always man!!
I'm early in the video, but I wanted to bring up one important thing: maybe this isn't as well known to western straights, but bathhouses being a site for gay cruising was also a big thing in western history, even since Roman times and despite various laws against it. Pretty sure they exist to this day, although to a much lesser degree. In fact, I think they only fell in popularity due to laws on prostitution? Don't quote me on that. So maybe for folk who don't know much queer history, their mind goes to 'don't drop the soap,' but for me at least, the context is actually very similar to the original Japanese.
Great work as always! 🤩👍
Kanji is amazing and adorkable and nobody’s gonna tell me otherwise 😊👍
Thank you! I would hope they wouldn't
A video of the Best Boy? Sign me up
Here it is
You deserve more views
Hopefully youtube picks this one up!
Great video and great series my man
Hour long vid on the best character of p4 let’s goooo
Yooooooo
A whole hour of best boy Kanji analysis???? This is like my birthday 💗💗💗💗💗
It's your new birthday. Happy new birthday
Love this
Hope you enjoy!