Prison Governor On Drug Smuggling, Evil Criminals & Homemade Weapons | Minutes With

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  • Опубликовано: 11 май 2024
  • In this week's episode of Minutes With, prison governor Vanessa Frake reveals what it's like inside the UK's most dangerous prisons. She opens up about meeting notorious serial murderers Rose West and Myra Hindley, along with the creative ways prisoners smuggle contraband like drugs and weapons into jails.
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  • @kn5715
    @kn5715 4 месяца назад +201

    Could listen to this lady and her stories for hours.

  • @hellsxbells
    @hellsxbells 4 месяца назад +438

    Love what ladbible is doing with this content lately. Raising so much awareness on so many interesting topics that alot of us never even think about or consider. To go from where this channel started to what it is now is exactly the kind of positive growth that this world needs and I love to see it. Keep up the good work!

    • @buttieboy666
      @buttieboy666 4 месяца назад +10

      It's true. Listening to these lives is fascinating.

    • @izzysamia4836
      @izzysamia4836 4 месяца назад +4

      So true and the content is so interesting too I never get bored watching.

    • @louieo.blevinsmusic4197
      @louieo.blevinsmusic4197 2 месяца назад

      Fantastic channel. Kinda reminds me of SoftWhiteUnderbelly. Glad I stumbled upon it. Definitely prefer yall’s “gangsters” compared to ours.

    • @philipreid2542
      @philipreid2542 Месяц назад

      Would be much better though if they focused on this content rather than celebrities eating snacks etc

  • @clairebradley6589
    @clairebradley6589 4 месяца назад +270

    I adore this woman. Great speaker and so informative but obviously really really cares about people. Fab!!!

    • @buttieboy666
      @buttieboy666 4 месяца назад +14

      She is fascinating! Could listen to everything she remembers!😂

  • @rachD19
    @rachD19 4 месяца назад +184

    I LOVE how she seamlessly called both Rose West and Mira Hindley nothing special. I agree with her, they weren’t notorious, they weren’t nothing special. Just cruel individuals

    • @mileysong1117
      @mileysong1117 3 месяца назад +2

      Exactly not special very much loosers of world very forgettable.

    • @LiteraryInsights12
      @LiteraryInsights12 3 месяца назад +4

      It’s wild how much societies sensationalize these people. I always thought it was creepy.

    • @mariahoulihan9483
      @mariahoulihan9483 3 месяца назад

      When I was in the Police we had a female prisoner in our cells one day and I was talking with her. she had been at Cookham Wood Prison and knew Myra Hindley. She was in raptures abouther.. I thought then from what she told me.. no. .that woman is a manipulator.. gettingother female prisoners to like her.

    • @FallenAngel9979
      @FallenAngel9979 3 месяца назад +2

      @@mileysong1117Losers.😉

    • @rileywilson6144
      @rileywilson6144 15 дней назад

      Bruh my dad had Fred west in has bed as a child he was meant too fix the boiler or something and just sat and spoke too my dad on his bed and then when my grandma asked him too work he started and when she left he just got up and went idk the authenticity of this story and also my dads now a druggys so idk but he told me this prior years ago and so did his mum on multiple occasions

  • @jackford762
    @jackford762 4 месяца назад +53

    This woman can definitely present/tell her stories elsewhere/mainstream media. She told each story very well and kept my attention from start to finish. Kudos to her 👍

  • @cq9882
    @cq9882 3 месяца назад +20

    This lady is a realist, but also has a heart. Incredible experience prisons need more people like her as the leader. Should write a book one day. Oh forgot the most important she looks after her team and recognizes and acts when they need it. This is no easy job, no matter if you are governor or officer.

  • @sabinahribarternar7502
    @sabinahribarternar7502 4 месяца назад +66

    I loved her book, every minute of it. She’s awsome, I’d love to have a tea with her, I could listen to her stories all day. She inspired me to retry to join the prison service in my country.

    • @belindahutchinson5333
      @belindahutchinson5333 4 месяца назад +1

      Why?

    • @FallenAngel9979
      @FallenAngel9979 3 месяца назад

      @@belindahutchinson5333Duh

    • @Draggonny
      @Draggonny Месяц назад +2

      See if you can arrange a tour of a prison some time. I've worked in a prison and I had no problems with it whatsoever but my previous boss did a walk around tour as part of a job application and it set off all kinds of claustrophobia he didn't know he had. I work well with routine and clear rules but not everyone can handle the pretty intense rules either. It can also mess with people's heads how you have to be on the lookout for manipulation all the time. A woman I work with worked in the court service and that was enough to make her a bit paranoid. Meanwhile I live around the corner from a probation office and an approved premises for people on parole. I have to just accept that it is just a part of life that I have criminals living nearby and not let it bother me. Not everyone can just get on with their day once they know what kind of people are just walking around, going about their daily lives.

    • @OurWorldAhead
      @OurWorldAhead Месяц назад

      ​@@belindahutchinson5333 Have to say, I asked the same question lol. After hearing her stories I have tremendous respect for what she has had to go through at her job, and for helping keeping things in check in our prison - it's a very vital role, but I am really grateful this is not my job after having heard her talk about

  • @jf6853
    @jf6853 4 месяца назад +42

    Great Content! Vanessa Frake is one tough lady! Hats off to her! Awesome!

  • @simoneduchess3888
    @simoneduchess3888 4 месяца назад +29

    What a woman!
    The world needs more ladies like this!

  • @LADbible
    @LADbible  4 месяца назад +63

    Thank you to Vanessa for taking part! You can follow her on Instagram at @vfh12, and buy her book here - amzn.eu/d/dc46jSq

  • @BrainLikeEggYoke
    @BrainLikeEggYoke 4 месяца назад +26

    " we used to call her auntie rose, not to her her face but she just looked like someones auntie" 😂😂

  • @propertyofranger
    @propertyofranger 4 месяца назад +12

    This was such a fascinating interview. I could listen to her stories all day long.

  • @LupineGloom
    @LupineGloom 4 месяца назад +12

    I could listen to her speak all day! Someone make a documentary about her job and life , urgently!!

  • @Parksey-qb5wv
    @Parksey-qb5wv 4 месяца назад +19

    Such a great watch. I could watch her speak for hours. Her knowledge, stories and passion. Great interview

  • @DodderingOldMan
    @DodderingOldMan 4 месяца назад +35

    What an absolute legend. Some people just seem perfectly formed to do the job they end up doing. She's one of them.

  • @A1OFFENDER
    @A1OFFENDER 4 месяца назад +17

    I very much liked watching this lady. What a hero and nice character. Thank you LADbible for the content

  • @CourtneyPielok
    @CourtneyPielok 6 дней назад +1

    I could listen to Vanessa talk all day tbh. She's absolutely fascinating and just as adorable.

  • @WretchedIcon
    @WretchedIcon 4 месяца назад +9

    What a beautiful soul. If only the entire prison system could exist through her perspective.

  • @trvtam
    @trvtam 3 месяца назад +4

    I always enjoy the interviews with this lady. She is a wealth of knowledge!

  • @caraeuler2927
    @caraeuler2927 4 месяца назад +7

    I greatly appreciate how educational this was. Thank you

  • @hilarymorrison8211
    @hilarymorrison8211 4 месяца назад +7

    I too worked for HMP. Not an easy job but I would like to think I made a difference with the particular type of prisoners we had.

  • @jamesdaniels6687
    @jamesdaniels6687 4 месяца назад +6

    best interview i've listened to in years and years

  • @grahambarrett5569
    @grahambarrett5569 4 месяца назад +9

    She’s an amazing woman doing a very difficult job. I admire her.

  • @amandajackson6714
    @amandajackson6714 3 дня назад

    What a wonderful, wonderful person this is. She is remarkable and she is what society needs today. Thank you

  • @martintaylor1758
    @martintaylor1758 4 месяца назад +8

    This channel just gets better and better.

  • @nartarlyiatremaynne1239
    @nartarlyiatremaynne1239 4 месяца назад +5

    Beyond thought provoking and compelling.
    Brilliant interview.
    There but the Grace of God go I.
    Australia

  • @lindalarson5468
    @lindalarson5468 4 месяца назад +10

    Thank you, Vanessa, for your service. You made a difference. Those of us who are retired relate to your feeling of being lost when our careers end...it takes time to figure out the next chapter. If I may be so bold, I would suggest that you go on the speakers circuit. It is very lucrative, part time and it would help you to continue to inform the public about your life's work and lessons learned which is a very worthy purpose, indeed. Thanks to Ladbible for this interview. One of the best ever.

  • @lyndagarforth6155
    @lyndagarforth6155 4 месяца назад +3

    Thanks for this Fabulous! upload. I loved listening to you Vanessa. Congratulations on getting your MBE. My Best wishes to you for the Future. 🎉

  • @karolyngaston9221
    @karolyngaston9221 3 месяца назад +1

    What a legend! Brilliant interview, keep going with this excellent work 🎉

  • @jahmymahemsley8714
    @jahmymahemsley8714 3 месяца назад +3

    Fantastic video, really enjoyed it 🙏🏾🙏🏾

  • @heaton5228
    @heaton5228 4 месяца назад +6

    Fantastic interview

  • @ajaj6640
    @ajaj6640 4 месяца назад +2

    Love her stories! Could listen to her all day!

  • @Thewoodyrg
    @Thewoodyrg 3 месяца назад +1

    Great speaker, smashed it as usual ladbible x

  • @michaelslater2519
    @michaelslater2519 Месяц назад +1

    Really enjoying the recent content, keep it up!

  • @gennc7293
    @gennc7293 Месяц назад

    Thank you for constantly providing insight and perspective. This is the content that matters for society.

  • @kellystojek
    @kellystojek 4 месяца назад +6

    wish it was longer could watch her all day

  • @evanwiseman8458
    @evanwiseman8458 4 месяца назад +3

    What a fascinating person. I've no experience in Vanessa Frake's world, but she gave such an interesting, if only scratching the surface, insight into it. I really enjoyed this video and that she clearly cares for her charges, in a tough but fair fashion.
    Thanks. Looking forward to exploring more of this series.
    Edit: for feedback, I'd really be interested in hearing more from her.

  • @Tyro74
    @Tyro74 4 месяца назад +3

    incredible stories!

  • @Macmadgram
    @Macmadgram 3 месяца назад +2

    Very good interview!

  • @nairemlap533
    @nairemlap533 4 месяца назад +3

    God bless you sweetheart… I’ve watched both this and the video where she answered questions. Amazing and very interesting lady

  • @denisehumphreys677
    @denisehumphreys677 3 месяца назад +1

    I've watched this lady on several RUclips documentaries... she is amazing and really knows the prison system and the inmates inside out. I think she has an OBE or MBE. That's how her service has been recognised ...
    Great lady

  • @GARYINLEEDS
    @GARYINLEEDS 4 месяца назад +2

    Thanks for sharing, shared.

  • @lennydicko
    @lennydicko 4 месяца назад +15

    Am reading her book it’s really good 🙌

    • @badbassnine
      @badbassnine 4 месяца назад +2

      What's it called? Wanna try and read it myself

  • @jamesthorley4442
    @jamesthorley4442 Месяц назад

    I could listen to her talk all day, really nice woman and fascinating stories to tell. I bet she has loads to tell

  • @claire-christmas-august73
    @claire-christmas-august73 4 месяца назад +19

    22 minutes
    is insufficient.
    😉
    doesn’t do her justice.!
    two hours plus
    i once saw an interview with this gem of a lady.
    now that
    was a phenomenal interview.!
    fascinating
    is an understatement.
    😃😉
    * note to self -
    i must fetch her book.
    ✌🏻🌏🇦🇺🤘🏻

  • @spencermackay9020
    @spencermackay9020 4 месяца назад +1

    0:52 'Meeting people, quite structured', savage!

  • @tracysmith5948
    @tracysmith5948 4 месяца назад +6

    What a lovely person

  • @HurricaneScully
    @HurricaneScully Месяц назад

    Commenting to boost the algorithm! Absolutely loving this conent!!

  • @lj9497
    @lj9497 4 месяца назад +3

    What an episode !!!!

  • @lisas6787
    @lisas6787 3 месяца назад +2

    I think Vanessa is great, loved listening to her stories and her book

  • @beasbadges8827
    @beasbadges8827 4 месяца назад +3

    Brilliant lady. X

  • @samworrell5202
    @samworrell5202 4 месяца назад +7

    Amazing story. What a woman

  • @matthewsmith2682
    @matthewsmith2682 4 месяца назад +5

    what a champion person!

  • @kennykaniff
    @kennykaniff 4 месяца назад +4

    She said something that reminded me of a joke😆
    How many psychologists does it take to change a light bulb?
    ONE!!! But the light bulb has to want to change
    🤘🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @bweb6
    @bweb6 3 месяца назад

    What a strong, wonderful lady. Could listen to her speak for hours.

  • @trudimccann5218
    @trudimccann5218 4 месяца назад

    Oh I love listening to frakes tales 🎉

  • @carolinadecarvalho461
    @carolinadecarvalho461 Месяц назад

    Hero. Please know you did an incredible job. I am so grateful to have seen your interview. Hope your life outside gives you a break and you can enjoy your family. Make sure to get support if you start noticing your head is giving you sh*t. Wish the best.

  • @whatchannel3679
    @whatchannel3679 Месяц назад +1

    She is great and she knows exactly what is going on and what she is talking about.

  • @Aleeecccccc
    @Aleeecccccc Месяц назад

    This was so good she’s brilliant

  • @l6outinthestix46
    @l6outinthestix46 4 месяца назад +7

    Looks a tough govenor no pushover all prisons should be visited to see the state there in which prisoners have to live in they never see the bad parts prisoners do rhey would be shut down straight away

  • @andrewthomas4897
    @andrewthomas4897 5 дней назад

    l could listen to this all day.she was born to work in the prison service also read her book very interesting.

  • @TomTom-df9ph
    @TomTom-df9ph 3 месяца назад

    What an amazing lady , I bet she was brilliant at her job. Efficient but fair. And has the kind of strength needed for her job.

  • @mangotree7346
    @mangotree7346 4 месяца назад +7

    Very interesting woman, I bet she could tell a lot more interesting stories.

  • @melissamackessy3372
    @melissamackessy3372 3 месяца назад +2

    What a legend!!

  • @turmoil3161
    @turmoil3161 3 месяца назад +2

    Burns me when people talk about behaving like an “animal” or treated like an “animal”. If you treat your animal bad, you deserve prison and as far as behaviour goes…..well humans win bad behaviour hands down

  • @ddhh3251
    @ddhh3251 4 месяца назад +3

    I was friends with female Salvation Army officer. She worked in the prison with both male and female prisoners. She told me she preferred working with the men, they were polite with her where as the females were rude spoke dirty all the time.

  • @cdelane3335
    @cdelane3335 2 месяца назад

    Wow she is a great speaker, very descriptive. Very interesting lady.

  • @KayakDreadgirl
    @KayakDreadgirl 4 месяца назад +12

    I love this woman. Born for the life journey she took 💯%

  • @sstritmatter2158
    @sstritmatter2158 3 месяца назад +2

    I like this woman - was good for the job. Smart, effective - and matter of fact nothing ot hide. She would be good to review reforms that work and those that don’t.

  • @shirleyrice7093
    @shirleyrice7093 2 месяца назад

    Such a gentle man.

  • @thomasandrews3381
    @thomasandrews3381 4 месяца назад +5

    A very interesting and wise person. Great video!

  • @kimjodoin868
    @kimjodoin868 2 месяца назад +1

    I love Vanessa Frake! She's awesome, a great intellect speaking fine commonse sense humanity!

  • @hj8837
    @hj8837 4 месяца назад +5

    I hope a HMP PrisonGovernor didn't just refer as Spice as a soft drug because as an active screw 'Yes boo away😅' Spice is no soft drug in thr slightest some of the most horrible things I have seen have been behind prison walls and Spice used to be one of the leading factors.. Good video 👍🏻

    • @oreomonster179
      @oreomonster179 3 месяца назад

      My neighbour takes it and is delusional it’s terrifying the stuff he’s done 😩

  • @williamclark2200
    @williamclark2200 4 месяца назад +1

    Thanks!

    • @philipreid2542
      @philipreid2542 Месяц назад

      Why would you give money to a channel that clearly doesn't need it?

  • @tay7366
    @tay7366 Месяц назад

    Just listened to Vanessa’s audio book . I recommend it if you like the subject of prisons.

  • @sodapop83
    @sodapop83 4 месяца назад +2

    i think she was interviewed before for other prison docus

  • @Oshunsprite
    @Oshunsprite 2 месяца назад

    Very moved by this woman's strength of character and humanity.

  • @FallenAngel9979
    @FallenAngel9979 3 месяца назад +1

    This woman is a legend. More balls than me and talks a lot of sense. It’s funny what she said about male prisoners behaving better towards her than the female ones, as the first thing I thought was that I’d rather work with male prisoners. Every job I’ve had, it’s been my fellow women who have been the issue, never the men!

  • @truecynic1270
    @truecynic1270 2 месяца назад

    One of my sons works in an Ontario jail and tells me that the prison installed netting over the exercise yards ( and any other outside spaces accessible by inmates) to prevent drones dropping "drug" supplies.............................

  • @Freedomrings4433
    @Freedomrings4433 2 месяца назад

    I really like her! I like the way she carries herself. Much respect 🫡

  • @CrackedScopes
    @CrackedScopes 3 месяца назад

    As a former CO with PTSD, from a facility with zero support for staff, this hits. There really is a lot that the public eye doesn't see. With that said, there is a lot you don't even see yourself until it is too late. Once you get out, you never actually "get out", that choice becomes a mindset. Keep Battling. Day by day, we get better.

  • @kaylamoonshoes
    @kaylamoonshoes 16 дней назад +1

    I seriously considered becoming a CO or a prison nurse at one time and I totally agree with working with the men over the women. Women are too much and I'm a woman lol. Love this series so much.

  • @timothyfreeseha4056
    @timothyfreeseha4056 Месяц назад

    I love this Gov. It is right to observe that support- education, medical, Social- follow up to help those with vulnerabilities who are inclined to return to the environment which supported the behavior that landed them in prison, find another way.

  • @jeansmith3367
    @jeansmith3367 22 дня назад

    Fabulous woman - well done for all your achievements

  • @sharoncheshire3131
    @sharoncheshire3131 3 месяца назад +1

    Some people are just “right” for a role. It doesn’t make the job easier, but the just have the right personality/ outlook on life to be perfect for the role. You know she would have supported her team but would have ensure the prisoners were looked after correctly.

  • @minimum4001
    @minimum4001 2 месяца назад

    Would love to remember this lady's name ❤ can remember her on a podcast and her stories were absolutely amazing ❤
    Some were so incredibly unbelievable xcx

  • @julierichardson3012
    @julierichardson3012 3 месяца назад +1

    I am a support worker. I like to help others and do what I can and build warm trusting relationships. In my spare time I like to indulge in true crime. And I could not go to work every day in a prison and be nice to women and men who had done unspeakable things to others and killed. Especially to children. There's a lot that don't even warrant the front pages. Too many of them.

  • @karinlovell2834
    @karinlovell2834 4 месяца назад +5

    I love this lady

  • @-cMc-
    @-cMc- 4 месяца назад +1

    That makes sense when prison and jails get their funding cut something had to give “maybe it needs a fresh pair of eyes”

  • @rickwrites2612
    @rickwrites2612 Месяц назад

    I love how as a pensioner after her lunch at 12 she still does a count out of habit...of ppl on top of the bus. I wish her and wife all the best of retirement!

  • @davideccles6815
    @davideccles6815 4 месяца назад +1

    Can you Fix the subtitles/CC they’re slow and behind!

  • @sargeanthrs
    @sargeanthrs 3 месяца назад

    "The person will lose their job, lose their home, possible lose their family. But they'll have had six weeks to learn how to be a proper criminal" sums up the flaw perfectly

  • @andrewsiasparks
    @andrewsiasparks 4 месяца назад +1

    She didn't mention flail mail. Where you lace mail or card with drugs like. Meth, MDMA, speed, cocaine or ketamine

  • @PurplePerinaise
    @PurplePerinaise 4 месяца назад +9

    A prison officer is on the same rung as a prisoner as far as the govt are concerned. I feel sorry for those underpaid individuals, full of promise about what they may be able to do.

  • @poihp25
    @poihp25 10 дней назад

    What a wonderful woman and person. 💕

  • @charcoal386
    @charcoal386 4 месяца назад +2

    Impressive

  • @kennykaniff
    @kennykaniff 4 месяца назад +4

    The prisons in England and America are way different. In America "anything thats not state issued is contraband". It could be sugar or a pen or a paper clip. It could even be a soap holder that was made from some playing cards. They dont really enforce these things unless they come through and do a search and then they just tear up ALL your sh1t. Everything about the 2 country's justice sustems is MILES apart
    🤘🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

    • @mhoppy6639
      @mhoppy6639 3 месяца назад +1

      Has the US still got the worlds biggest prison population. It does seem very very tough over in the US particularly in some of the more notorious prisons. Are there any more categories that are “safer” than others, eg state, county federal super max? Etc curious to know more.

    • @kennykaniff
      @kennykaniff 3 месяца назад +1

      @@mhoppy6639 yes sure I can explain. I'll try to not go on too long. YES America incarcerates more people than any other country. It's a social issue. You have federal prisons which are for criminals that are charged at the federal level. You have state prisons for your state level crimes. So any crime you commit can be and usually is charged at the state level but as soon as a federal agency is involved in the investigation or prosecuting it then becomes a federal crime. If you're bad enough to get the govt attn then you'll go to the federal prison. Big white collar guys like Bernie Madoff and guys that made billions and mafia guys involved in a RICO case which is federal charge. So it's very technical. You have your jails that are in virtually EVERY county across America. You commit a crime you go to your local county jail. You are there until you receive a sentence. You either get released with time served or you stay longer. If you stay longer you end up getting shipped of to one of many state prisons in every state. You will stay in your state but at any one of 20 different locations. Each state prison has its own set of rules and code of conduct among the inmates. It is VERY political here in California. I've done all my time at Los Angeles county jail and been to several prisons across California unfortunately. Each state will run different type of politics. Certain things that the guys down south do wouldn't be allowed in California prisons. Or even in Texas, Arizona, Utah, Montana, Oregon and others. It depends on where you are and that will determine the political structure of the inmates
      Did I hit everything? I'm sure I missed or didn't answer some stuff. I'm an open book. Ask away

    • @kennykaniff
      @kennykaniff 3 месяца назад

      @@mhoppy6639 the laws here are strong and heavy. You see how the police are don't you? We have very heinous criminals but the laws and the system is in need of a very big rebuild. European countries are focused on rehabilitation but America prisons are for punishment. Things are changing but regardless of if you're at a nice new prison or an old old stone prison form beginning of 1900s, the biggest thing is going to be the politics. That's what you will need to know to survive regardless of if you are in a place that's clean and warm or in an old dilapidated facility that has no running hot water and no windows in the buildings. All smashed out. I could go on but I feel I'm not answering the things you're wanting to know

    • @mhoppy6639
      @mhoppy6639 3 месяца назад

      @@kennykaniff thank you so much for taking the time out to expand in this stuff. I knew things were somewhat complex but I guess I had no idea that the system was so …erm “baked into everyday” life.
      Our jails are few and far between and the police (county lock up?) don’t hold that many people at any one time either.
      There’s a big debate about what the prison systems for and others wiser than me will have that debate on the pages of criminology journals but I think all but a few people can experience some form of rehabilitation. Whether that extends to capital punishment is something I do really fret about. It’s tricky to put yourself in the place of a widow/widower/ grieving child(ren) etc.
      anyway, I looked up some stuff and apparently you guys have 1.8m people in prison. We have about 95,000 but our country’s way smaller.
      El Salvador has the highest rate - over 1000/ 100,000 population.
      Either way, there’s probably too many folks inside if they’re not being rehabbed or retrained etc. over here, because the systems fraying at the seams, sentences are shortened so staff have less time to educate, train and do ther stuff which lessens effectiveness.
      Once again, I’m very very grateful for the info, good to hear real experiences rather than talking heads in tv or drama! 👍🎯

    • @kennykaniff
      @kennykaniff 3 месяца назад

      @@mhoppy6639 absolutely. You're welcome. Where are you located?

  • @tammyhayes4564
    @tammyhayes4564 2 месяца назад

    I like her so firm trying to make a better world 😊

  • @ImsunaSong-gw2gs
    @ImsunaSong-gw2gs Месяц назад

    I like this lady. Wishing her well and happiness.!😊

  • @boredalchemist
    @boredalchemist 3 месяца назад

    the staff turn a blind eye to certain drug as they keep them calm