Crazy how JRB basically called his hand out then got scared of the money. If I ever get to these stakes and am playing Persson he’s gonna get paid by me if he makes a big hand against me because I could never fold to that guy. Persson is usually genuine in his table talk I’m can’t believe people haven’t caught on to it yet. He said on the flop I think, now we just gotta get rid of you, indicating a weaker holding. On HCL against Airball he flopped a 3 high flush bet and told him he flopped a flush and airball tried to bluff him. Whoever sees this comment I’ll take 1% for the read when it pays off for you 😂😂😂. Just Pay attention!!!
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JRB really explained his own issue in this hand well, and one that others can learn from. Don't play in a game where you feel uncomfortable calling off your whole stack, or people will take advantage of that.
its greater that you actually believed what Eric told you lmao after the hand is over its easy to just say anything and make yourself look like a badass but if he had lost he would just make up a different story after all you will buy his bullshit anyway 😂😂😂😂😂
Wonderful analysis of Persson, very cool that you actually spoke with him about the hand. But the keystone of this hand (imo), is Bellande's abnormal pre-flop play w/AKo. Not 3-betting AK pre-flop sneaks into your head if things go awry. Watching this hand, I saw a player (Bellande) ashamed of how he played AK pre-flop in this deep-stacked, televised event. Immediately after being check-raised, Bellande applauds Persson's play: "bluffing, not bluffing, great check-raise etc." I.e.: Bellande was always folding this hand (unimproved). During his final river decision, Bellande's subconscious (pls stay with me) tries to prove to everyone that he knows how to play poker, that he is very good at poker, that he definitely knows what is going on in this relatively complex high-stakes poker hand. In other words, he was always folding to a raise, and had do explain to everyone why folding was justified.
This is an actual example of "move up to where they respect your raises". Every time I've tried something similar in 5/10 or below I've gotten snap called.
True but still largely player dependent. If you're playing a private 50/100 with a table of rich fish the level of play could very well be similar to a 1/3 game.
I love Persson's play here. He gets a read on JRB's one-pair from the way JRB is betting. He makes himself unreadable with his conflcting behaviour. Then he raises an amount that he knows JRB with a just one-pair will be uncomfortable calling. Most players would fold if they sensed that an opponent had top-pair and likely a better kicker. Persson's play shows how picking the right spot with the right opponent can win a hand that if the circumstances were different, you might just fold.
What I love about your hand analysis is that you bring the reason behind the action of the player in it. Instead of guessing why a player did what he did. Just like you also did with Tom Dwan. Love your content!
@@PhilGalfondwould you have bet this river after he checked to you?JRB in my opinion probably should have checked back and took it down. That river would be in Eric’s range more often I think
@@Ret_Lineman Thing is, a straight or a flush would not normally check raise because a pair would check back. 2 pair might bet or check as well. So the optimal play with that board if you had a monster would be to bet, not check raise. Top pair would never bet into someone there but they might call. If they had a losing hand, they would be unlikely to check-raise because someone betting the river on a wet board should tell you that they have better than just top pair. That's why JRB bet. He didn't think he would be check raised for value or as a bluff so betting was a win-win in his view. JRB also made the correct read in the end but playing above his bankroll didn't allow him to pull the trigger and call. Had this been lower stakes, he would have called.
I've always wanted to try the hum-haw "I guess I gotta' go all in" play as a bluff, this is one of the few times I've seen it, seems like it's 95%+ the nuts.
JRB said it best "You played the rich guy card" if you're willing to bluff quarter million every hand it'll work a decent amount of the time
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Awesome analysis Phil, I’m glad you make these videos. I always had to go to Doug for this kind of content, but I’d much rather watch your perspective because I’m feel more connected to you as a person than to Doug. Also, great production quality!
Following you since u 1st appeared on tv.huge fan. U have a gift , the more u talk more I want to listen.,breaking down hands is like taking out of body journey to da inner workings of poker genius. Always learn 2
Wonderful analysis Phil! Really loved this video. Obviously you’ve more insight, having spoken to Eric, but I’m not sure I fully buy that his behaviour was premeditated. Feels a little like something cool to say after the fact. It is a very cool play to check raise river as a bluff with that specific hand because as JRB reasoned, the only hands that he’s beating are random pairs that are being turned into bluffs which I guess isn’t that natural unless you’re someone like Eric and all bets are off. Thank you for all the great content!
I think the hand analysis from live poker is very interesting, I do not think many newer players can understand how different a live session can be compared to multi tabling online games
As a complete amateur I would be grateful to know your opinion on if a check call would have been the better move from JBL? Doesnt the raise make it easy for your opponent to make a bluff representing a flush or a straight too?
Awesome as always, Mr. Galfond. Not the first time you've mentioned talking over a hand with Persson, correct? It's interesting because you make a strange pairing and would be a long, long way down the list of poker players, I would expect to be sparring!
I played semi-pro from 2004-09, won 3 big tourney, got 2nd in a WSOP event. I played 2-5nl at a local, common game $300-500 buyin... I played power poker, my decisions weren't affected by $$$, this game played fairly tight, not many +$700 pots... but I remember playing with guys on Friday night (drinking) or construction workers on a rain day (drinking) good guys, young, there to have fun, everybody played in a $20-50 home game tourney. I recall a great strategy... When one of those guys is up $200+ he is counting his stack like this is a great day, lets play tighter now... At that point you could put MAX pressure with $100-200 raises... the guy isn't trying to give up his profits... and then the same game when he then goes down from his original buy-in after being up $200... he is calling very weak... He then becomes the guy who calls huge bets with top pair only... Usually goes bust with A-8.
It wasn't a strategy I knowingly 100% was aware of and implemented with thought... It was more of noticing the guy was playing incredibly weak... I didn't fully appreciate and become aware of THAT strategy until I became that guy in 2010... (Having to pay bills, having extra money would be nice) buying in for $300 and have a stack at $550, going shit man... I'm just gonna play tight from here, play cheap flops with suited connectors, pocket pairs... I 100% got pushed off of situations because1. I was playing weak, they knew I was playing weak. #2 I was content with my chip stack... the sad thing is when you noticeably play weak, when you finally hit a hand... You become noticeable and you don't get paid.
Worth noting that JRB holds the Kc which blocks a lot of Eric's (more standard) bluff combos. When the decision is close I could see using the Kc as a tie breaker to fold.
It wasn't an act of premeditation. I would have read Persson’s reaction on the River as weakness, and that he changed his mind off the cuff, turning his pair of Aces into a bluff (because I've seen him do that numerous times in other situations, most notably vs Negreanu).
nice and very fun video. I dont like the river bet of bellande agains a maniac in a 4 way flop. (but maybe Eric also calls way too often which makes it fine)
You can't strictly stick to GTO. I doubt Eric was thinking anything but JRB can't call without a nutted hand because he doesn't have the cash flow that Eric does. Most of Eric's plays are very quick. He's a non thinking player.
It would be cool if they recapped these hands without the public's knowledge of the cards and then post comments. This would be a great hand to analyze had the public not see the hole cards for 6 months.
The guy who do donked off his chips with a low flush to Darvin Moon in the 2009 Main Event tried to make up some kind of motive for a donk move as well. It was hilarious. I don't know how some players just can't admit they took a shot without thinking
The main factor in all this is that it's streamed. The rest is anecdotal. Persson is a living commercial for his casinos, his image is everything, he doesn't care if he loses or wins a particular hand.
I don't believe Persson had it planned from the turn. No way. He is not that good a player OR ACTOR. He cut out calling chips on the river, then decided JRB's bet was weak and raised not really knowing where he was at. Now THAT sounds like classic Persson.
That's a very tough spot for JRB and really sympathize with him being in the blender as I would be as well but I think I would have to just call here and if he has it he has it especially the fact I can rule out the flush here. I wouldn't be comfortable making the call but would just have to.
If he's on a straight or flush draw, it's unlikely he'll check-dark the river, because you might miss a value bet if JRB checks behind. If you were ahead with a two pair or set, you probably don't check dark the river, because you want to get in a river value bet if the draws miss. The only way a check dark-raise makes sense to me is if he had something like A-8 and rivered two pair. Anyway, if you can't make these kinds of calls then you gotta stop pre-flop slowplay with AK. Also, the comment "Huh, I'm almost all-in" seemed pretty rehearsed and seems tell-ish, but your point about Eric doing a lot of random noise actions is well-taken.
Last time someone took that long in the tank I'd fallen asleep by the time they'd decided their action. He was talking and thinking out loud all that time and it wasn't of much interest (I had the nut flush). Guy next to me had to wake me up to flip over my cards when he finally called.
If we believe the line literally " You played the rich man's card on me " does that mean " I am not calling because I am playing way out of my bank roll"? Or is that just talk that doesn't actually give reason of folding?
Hi Phil... I have a question and I really hope you can help me out. When we play online, the rfi size is 2.5 bb, so we can open a lot wider. However, raising to 2.5 will get 4 5 callers in live 2/5. So, I usually open to 4x. Since I'm using a much bigger size, how much tighter should I open or should I just use my regular 2.5x rfi range since live poker is much softer?
Persson doesn’t play GTO, he plays bully stack. He brings enough chips he can all in with multiple times at a 2-1. If he does this 4 or 5 times you get stacked and he gets all his chips back. It’s a rich moron strategy but if players don’t lock their stack up it’s a very winning strategy.
I just have a hard time coming up with anything that Person might have. But with that kind of money, I could easily talk myself into some crazy hand and fold.
Seems like he started planning it after the flop when JRB says "got rid of them" and Eric said "now I just got to get rid of you" knowing he maybe way behind.
What i don't understand about AKo guys logic is, the strongest player at the table will call, so I am going to fold? If the strongest player at the table would call, why wouldn't you call?
East call ...he literally never raised the flop and turn and didn't reraise the pre...I always go back and think about all that and usually most of times I'm right...
#1 JRB wasn't paying attention to Persson's actions on all streets. #2 JRB didn't preplan his hand OTR I think. He should already know if he is calling a XR or not. That's what I do. #3 totally ignore the river behavior. #4 for me this is just counting combos and if is close against this kind of player I lean on calling. 10x Axdd 4x 97s 1x A8s So now find the bluffs. 3x 87s 10x busted clubs lots of combos... Axs low Vs an aggressive bluffy player..... easy if you count the combos. Persson is dangerous. But he isn't Phil Ivey which would be a lot more calculating and balanced in this spot becoming way more difficult to play against. Final note. If JRB feels the bet is too much and he has money fear he shouldn't be playing this game.
Why did Eric show the bluff? Was he just rubbing it in? Isn't that a bad move, most guys don't show it to keep the other guy guessing for the next time around? With respect to the other hand they showed whereby Eric threw his call chip into the pot before the bet was made; of course I'm talking in hindsight, but I really think that's not a good move by Eric. If Eric was planning to call and he had a good hand, there's no reason to tip off the other guy to let him know you're going to call. If the other guy had been bluffing, or even if the guy had a mediocre hand, he could have changed his mind and pulled the bet back. For that reason, the move Eric made indicates that he doesn't have a good hand. The only reason to throw in a call before the other guy even throws in his bet is to get him to withhold his bet. That would only be the case if Eric doesn't want the guy to bet, which means that Eric has nothing or not much.
Simply put, JRB is in a deepstack game with scared money. Of COURSE Eric Persson is gonna exploit that... In any conceivable way he can. What on earth is JRB doing making a $65k river bet with top-top on a straigted, flushed board? Against a hyper aggressive and tricky opponent? Does he honestly think Eric is ever just calling here with a weaker hand and giving up the money? That's insane. He never does that. So many combos come home on that 8d river card... if you can't withstand a check raise on the river, then just check it back and take the money.
It's pretty obvious what happened here. And it's a lesson for all, don't sit down at a table with people who have a different value of money than you. If someone can easily lose $1M, and you can't, it's going to be easy for them to bully you. And that's what Persson did, he bullied JRB with a bet JRB couldn't afford. In fact, players like Persson and Airball are best at being bullies because they don't value the money as others.
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Crazy how JRB basically called his hand out then got scared of the money. If I ever get to these stakes and am playing Persson he’s gonna get paid by me if he makes a big hand against me because I could never fold to that guy. Persson is usually genuine in his table talk I’m can’t believe people haven’t caught on to it yet. He said on the flop I think, now we just gotta get rid of you, indicating a weaker holding. On HCL against Airball he flopped a 3 high flush bet and told him he flopped a flush and airball tried to bluff him. Whoever sees this comment I’ll take 1% for the read when it pays off for you 😂😂😂. Just Pay attention!!!
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JRB really explained his own issue in this hand well, and one that others can learn from. Don't play in a game where you feel uncomfortable calling off your whole stack, or people will take advantage of that.
Agree! Also, never slow play AK.
On a quick side note, I love how your shoulder aligns to the chip-shuffling arm at around 9:07 😂
Lol that's trippy
Great catch
Pretty sure Persson was just randomly clicking buttons then came up with some story afterwards about how he planned it the whole time lol
for sure...also, the best possible position to bluff. Kudos for him for going for it tho
haha damn i just commented this before seeing yours lol .... he reminds me of the pig cops in duke nukem
@@LittleDinkensaahahaha i cant Un see it now
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Yea for sure, Galfond giving his “story” far to much weight!
He lied to you on the phone and made up the thought process after the hand. The suggestion that he has a plan is preposterous.
Hahaha totally agree
He uses quantum physics, the thought process come after the action 😂
Agree. His plan was do what he always does. Bet big and hope.
I said the same. Every hand we've scene him play he acts very fast without thinking what his opponent has.
@@raymondpatrick2918I disagree I've seen him do so much weird shit like this, and often he has a sneaky hand that's the nuts.
Phil, I congratulate you, intimating that Eric Persson might be a good poker player is perhaps the biggest bluff you have ever done.
I really enjoy these bits of analysis. It’s great you spoke to Eric to understand his unorthodox play and the thinking behind it.
Thank you so much!
its greater that you actually believed what Eric told you lmao
after the hand is over its easy to just say anything and make yourself look like a badass but if he had lost he would just make up a different story
after all you will buy his bullshit anyway 😂😂😂😂😂
Will just say it again, keep doing these! Super super fun and interesting to watch.
Thanks! Will do!
Wonderful analysis of Persson, very cool that you actually spoke with him about the hand. But the keystone of this hand (imo), is Bellande's abnormal pre-flop play w/AKo. Not 3-betting AK pre-flop sneaks into your head if things go awry. Watching this hand, I saw a player (Bellande) ashamed of how he played AK pre-flop in this deep-stacked, televised event. Immediately after being check-raised, Bellande applauds Persson's play: "bluffing, not bluffing, great check-raise etc." I.e.: Bellande was always folding this hand (unimproved). During his final river decision, Bellande's subconscious (pls stay with me) tries to prove to everyone that he knows how to play poker, that he is very good at poker, that he definitely knows what is going on in this relatively complex high-stakes poker hand. In other words, he was always folding to a raise, and had do explain to everyone why folding was justified.
12:58 what a class act, this guy.
This is an actual example of "move up to where they respect your raises". Every time I've tried something similar in 5/10 or below I've gotten snap called.
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True but still largely player dependent. If you're playing a private 50/100 with a table of rich fish the level of play could very well be similar to a 1/3 game.
If they always call you're a dummy for trying to bluff. Just value bet your good hands for max value dope
@@dan22482 always relative to the size of their pockets
"I don't wanna see it" *Immediately shows it* 😄
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I love Persson's play here. He gets a read on JRB's one-pair from the way JRB is betting. He makes himself unreadable with his conflcting behaviour. Then he raises an amount that he knows JRB with a just one-pair will be uncomfortable calling. Most players would fold if they sensed that an opponent had top-pair and likely a better kicker. Persson's play shows how picking the right spot with the right opponent can win a hand that if the circumstances were different, you might just fold.
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@@GRockBluesAgreed lol. I don't think Persson is that evolved
JRB dug his own grave here by betting the river.
What I love about your hand analysis is that you bring the reason behind the action of the player in it. Instead of guessing why a player did what he did. Just like you also did with Tom Dwan.
Love your content!
Thank you so much!
@@PhilGalfondwould you have bet this river after he checked to you?JRB in my opinion probably should have checked back and took it down. That river would be in Eric’s range more often I think
@@Ret_Lineman Thing is, a straight or a flush would not normally check raise because a pair would check back. 2 pair might bet or check as well. So the optimal play with that board if you had a monster would be to bet, not check raise. Top pair would never bet into someone there but they might call. If they had a losing hand, they would be unlikely to check-raise because someone betting the river on a wet board should tell you that they have better than just top pair.
That's why JRB bet. He didn't think he would be check raised for value or as a bluff so betting was a win-win in his view. JRB also made the correct read in the end but playing above his bankroll didn't allow him to pull the trigger and call. Had this been lower stakes, he would have called.
Phil you are what poker needs regarding analysis, and you have a great way about delivering it,
Thank you so much 😊
I've always wanted to try the hum-haw "I guess I gotta' go all in" play as a bluff, this is one of the few times I've seen it, seems like it's 95%+ the nuts.
Same same
JRB's face after seeing the bluff was priceless. Looks sickened to the core lmao
Imo Persson just clicking buttons and when bluff comes off, he then thinks up clever reasons as to why he did what he did
JRB said it best "You played the rich guy card" if you're willing to bluff quarter million every hand it'll work a decent amount of the time
Awesome analysis Phil, I’m glad you make these videos. I always had to go to Doug for this kind of content, but I’d much rather watch your perspective because I’m feel more connected to you as a person than to Doug. Also, great production quality!
Doug is just an annoying person.
I would never trust Eric with what he's saying. He can say anything to you what he wants after the hand is played.
Following you since u 1st appeared on tv.huge fan.
U have a gift , the more u talk more I want to listen.,breaking down hands is like taking out of body journey to da inner workings of poker genius. Always learn 2
JRB is such a legend man. How he hasn't developed severe anxiety though, I have no eff'n idea.
Wonderful analysis Phil! Really loved this video. Obviously you’ve more insight, having spoken to Eric, but I’m not sure I fully buy that his behaviour was premeditated. Feels a little like something cool to say after the fact. It is a very cool play to check raise river as a bluff with that specific hand because as JRB reasoned, the only hands that he’s beating are random pairs that are being turned into bluffs which I guess isn’t that natural unless you’re someone like Eric and all bets are off. Thank you for all the great content!
Easy to be aggressive when you are a multi multi millionaire. JRB was spot on when he called it a rich man's raise...
if the money actually means anything to you, you are playing too big
@@Samuel88853 JRB is in over his head in terms of money and it costs him pots and the players know it.
I think the hand analysis from live poker is very interesting, I do not think many newer players can understand how different a live session can be compared to multi tabling online games
I am an absolute fish live
JRB was the king of comedy with the speech play against EP, hilarious and entertaining as F...🔥😂
"I'm not rich enough to call" - that's like a limping gazelle in front of a pride of lions
Knowing that I couldn't figure out why JRB bet the river. He let Eric steal it from him.
As a complete amateur I would be grateful to know your opinion on if a check call would have been the better move from JBL? Doesnt the raise make it easy for your opponent to make a bluff representing a flush or a straight too?
Interesting analysis. Thank you Phil. I normally scream, shout, cry and beg for folds or calls on my online games.
Awesome as always, Mr. Galfond. Not the first time you've mentioned talking over a hand with Persson, correct? It's interesting because you make a strange pairing and would be a long, long way down the list of poker players, I would expect to be sparring!
The best bluff of Persson's career!! ....... was convincing Phil that he actually knew what he was doing in this hand.
BINGO!
I like how well JRB is able to recognize what’s happening .. without the luxury of seeing Persson’s cards
Idk how you bet that river without the Ad in your hand. 8s river, fine but I think AdXd is a huge part of most peoples ranges in that spot.
Love JRB's chatter, good for the game!!
i like how at 5:00 you put yourself directly on top of the guy to eric's left
I played semi-pro from 2004-09, won 3 big tourney, got 2nd in a WSOP event. I played 2-5nl at a local, common game $300-500 buyin... I played power poker, my decisions weren't affected by $$$, this game played fairly tight, not many +$700 pots... but I remember playing with guys on Friday night (drinking) or construction workers on a rain day (drinking) good guys, young, there to have fun, everybody played in a $20-50 home game tourney. I recall a great strategy... When one of those guys is up $200+ he is counting his stack like this is a great day, lets play tighter now... At that point you could put MAX pressure with $100-200 raises... the guy isn't trying to give up his profits... and then the same game when he then goes down from his original buy-in after being up $200... he is calling very weak... He then becomes the guy who calls huge bets with top pair only... Usually goes bust with A-8.
It wasn't a strategy I knowingly 100% was aware of and implemented with thought... It was more of noticing the guy was playing incredibly weak... I didn't fully appreciate and become aware of THAT strategy until I became that guy in 2010... (Having to pay bills, having extra money would be nice) buying in for $300 and have a stack at $550, going shit man... I'm just gonna play tight from here, play cheap flops with suited connectors, pocket pairs... I 100% got pushed off of situations because1. I was playing weak, they knew I was playing weak. #2 I was content with my chip stack... the sad thing is when you noticeably play weak, when you finally hit a hand... You become noticeable and you don't get paid.
Very entertaining hand, and insightful analysis and extra information as always.
Worth noting that JRB holds the Kc which blocks a lot of Eric's (more standard) bluff combos. When the decision is close I could see using the Kc as a tie breaker to fold.
Persson is a reverse-tellbox
It wasn't an act of premeditation. I would have read Persson’s reaction on the River as weakness, and that he changed his mind off the cuff, turning his pair of Aces into a bluff (because I've seen him do that numerous times in other situations, most notably vs Negreanu).
Very enjoyable! good luck with all your endeavors
nice and very fun video. I dont like the river bet of bellande agains a maniac in a 4 way flop. (but maybe Eric also calls way too often which makes it fine)
100% how poker is meant to be played. Awesome explanation.
You can't strictly stick to GTO. I doubt Eric was thinking anything but JRB can't call without a nutted hand because he doesn't have the cash flow that Eric does. Most of Eric's plays are very quick. He's a non thinking player.
hahahaha JRB complimenting Eric on how good of a play it is, that cracks me up
If you can’t call a hand your opponent bet on because they bet too much, you’re at the wrong stakes table…
But what is the better hand to bluff here? AQo and AJo with the A of diamond?
Nice! Love your hand reviews. Like before even watching. Thanks for the content and the free ebook.
You’re very welcome! ♥️
It would be cool if they recapped these hands without the public's knowledge of the cards and then post comments. This would be a great hand to analyze had the public not see the hole cards for 6 months.
Nothing gives me more pleasure in 2023 than Eric + Airball punting stacks off every game. Pity he took this one down
You sound like a salty broke person
That punt against keating is so satisfying to watch
@@wiselettuce8715 bro when you own 14+ casinos, there’s no such thing as punting. Ur just donating 😂
the best analysis style video the world will hopefully see
Your logo should be PhG.
Persson is a punting fish who just clicks buttons, galfond is just trying to be friendly and close to stay within Perssons´s punting-circle.
The way the camera showed dnegs right after you said Andrew Robl was the toughest player at the table lmao
Standard check-fold on turn (could even fold flop 4-way tbh). Standard check back on river.
The guy who do donked off his chips with a low flush to Darvin Moon in the 2009 Main Event tried to make up some kind of motive for a donk move as well. It was hilarious. I don't know how some players just can't admit they took a shot without thinking
Person is brutal. I hate to see him get away with this trash. Love these videos Phil!
The main factor in all this is that it's streamed. The rest is anecdotal. Persson is a living commercial for his casinos, his image is everything, he doesn't care if he loses or wins a particular hand.
I don't believe Persson had it planned from the turn. No way. He is not that good a player OR ACTOR. He cut out calling chips on the river, then decided JRB's bet was weak and raised not really knowing where he was at. Now THAT sounds like classic Persson.
That's a very tough spot for JRB and really sympathize with him being in the blender as I would be as well but I think I would have to just call here and if he has it he has it especially the fact I can rule out the flush here. I wouldn't be comfortable making the call but would just have to.
If he's on a straight or flush draw, it's unlikely he'll check-dark the river, because you might miss a value bet if JRB checks behind. If you were ahead with a two pair or set, you probably don't check dark the river, because you want to get in a river value bet if the draws miss. The only way a check dark-raise makes sense to me is if he had something like A-8 and rivered two pair.
Anyway, if you can't make these kinds of calls then you gotta stop pre-flop slowplay with AK.
Also, the comment "Huh, I'm almost all-in" seemed pretty rehearsed and seems tell-ish, but your point about Eric doing a lot of random noise actions is well-taken.
Last time someone took that long in the tank I'd fallen asleep by the time they'd decided their action. He was talking and thinking out loud all that time and it wasn't of much interest (I had the nut flush). Guy next to me had to wake me up to flip over my cards when he finally called.
I would have called
If we believe the line literally " You played the rich man's card on me " does that mean " I am not calling because I am playing way out of my bank roll"?
Or is that just talk that doesn't actually give reason of folding?
Hi Phil... I have a question and I really hope you can help me out. When we play online, the rfi size is 2.5 bb, so we can open a lot wider. However, raising to 2.5 will get 4 5 callers in live 2/5. So, I usually open to 4x. Since I'm using a much bigger size, how much tighter should I open or should I just use my regular 2.5x rfi range since live poker is much softer?
Move up to 5/10 as the skill level will be higher with less limpers.
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Persson doesn’t play GTO, he plays bully stack. He brings enough chips he can all in with multiple times at a 2-1. If he does this 4 or 5 times you get stacked and he gets all his chips back. It’s a rich moron strategy but if players don’t lock their stack up it’s a very winning strategy.
Great analysis but wondering what you would do here. Assume it’s a call.
I think the problem is value betting AK in that board against a superagressive player. What do u guys think??
I just have a hard time coming up with anything that Person might have. But with that kind of money, I could easily talk myself into some crazy hand and fold.
Too thin a value bet by jrb on the river. He was confident enough to value bet but not confident enough to call. Should have went with his reed
Seems like he started planning it after the flop when JRB says "got rid of them" and Eric said "now I just got to get rid of you" knowing he maybe way behind.
Very good video ! Entertaining informative etc.
Thank you so much!
It’s great to have or of Persson Galfond a coach’s, but I definitely can’t ply what persson can do
would love to see bellande's reaction at the end of the hand
Yup. The raised at the end scared him. That’s a lot of money.
What i don't understand about AKo guys logic is, the strongest player at the table will call, so I am going to fold?
If the strongest player at the table would call, why wouldn't you call?
Phil, these are excellent and I need more
Thank you 😊
"I can tell you that Robl would not fold my hand".
Robl (staking JRB) "omg please fold your hand, you are beat!! 😣"
Great analysis!
Someone help what site can I play for real money in Arizona???
Excellent analysis Phil! Keep up the great content! I wish you started this 10 years ago!
Me too 😂
Thanks!
Phil, is JRB hand worth 2/3 pot otr?
I think so, yeah.
the river bluff was not planned, that was all in the moment. eric just wants to seem calculated
JB, in 07, we are playing @ Wynn. You seriously look like you still have the headache I took care of that night.
East call ...he literally never raised the flop and turn and didn't reraise the pre...I always go back and think about all that and usually most of times I'm right...
@8.00 ROBEL WAS GIVING JRB THE SIGNAL TO CALL HIM WITH HIS CHIPS IF U WATCH HIM
#1 JRB wasn't paying attention to Persson's actions on all streets.
#2 JRB didn't preplan his hand OTR I think. He should already know if he is calling a XR or not. That's what I do.
#3 totally ignore the river behavior.
#4 for me this is just counting combos and if is close against this kind of player I lean on calling.
10x Axdd
4x 97s
1x A8s
So now find the bluffs.
3x 87s
10x busted clubs
lots of combos... Axs low
Vs an aggressive bluffy player..... easy if you count the combos.
Persson is dangerous. But he isn't Phil Ivey which would be a lot more calculating and balanced in this spot becoming way more difficult to play against.
Final note. If JRB feels the bet is too much and he has money fear he shouldn't be playing this game.
When everyone is gto, you have to be eccentric. In a world where everyone is online and afraid of people, you master making people uncomfortable.
Why did Eric show the bluff? Was he just rubbing it in? Isn't that a bad move, most guys don't show it to keep the other guy guessing for the next time around?
With respect to the other hand they showed whereby Eric threw his call chip into the pot before the bet was made; of course I'm talking in hindsight, but I really think that's not a good move by Eric. If Eric was planning to call and he had a good hand, there's no reason to tip off the other guy to let him know you're going to call. If the other guy had been bluffing, or even if the guy had a mediocre hand, he could have changed his mind and pulled the bet back. For that reason, the move Eric made indicates that he doesn't have a good hand. The only reason to throw in a call before the other guy even throws in his bet is to get him to withhold his bet. That would only be the case if Eric doesn't want the guy to bet, which means that Eric has nothing or not much.
My takeaway is that
deep stacked poker is hard
Blind aggression pays off alot
lwhy is jrb playing the stakes he fears calling all ins and reraises?
exactly
what an insanely good game for negreanu and robl
Simply put, JRB is in a deepstack game with scared money. Of COURSE Eric Persson is gonna exploit that... In any conceivable way he can.
What on earth is JRB doing making a $65k river bet with top-top on a straigted, flushed board? Against a hyper aggressive and tricky opponent?
Does he honestly think Eric is ever just calling here with a weaker hand and giving up the money? That's insane. He never does that.
So many combos come home on that 8d river card... if you can't withstand a check raise on the river, then just check it back and take the money.
you forget to mention the man to the right of Bellande saw his hand and now also has to bluff for him which he failed at.
Please no more no limit holdem videos 😊
If JRB didnt want to see the cards, all he had to do was close his eyes. You know Eric never going to not give you the finger....
It's pretty obvious what happened here. And it's a lesson for all, don't sit down at a table with people who have a different value of money than you. If someone can easily lose $1M, and you can't, it's going to be easy for them to bully you. And that's what Persson did, he bullied JRB with a bet JRB couldn't afford. In fact, players like Persson and Airball are best at being bullies because they don't value the money as others.
Love you're advice Phil