Will Minnesota Vikings unlock Sam Darnold as QB. 1?
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- Опубликовано: 18 апр 2024
- Will the Minnesota Vikings unlock Sam Darnold as QB. 1; Looking back at Darnold's time with the Jets; What happens if Darnold plays out of his mind in 2023; Listener feedback on conversations with Kevin O'Connell; JJ McCarthy concerns about not playing enough; Justin Jefferson waiting out his contract extension; Listener feedback on Kirk Cousins, Super Bowl, Jaren Hall and more; Remembering show prep from the 2016 radio days and more on Purple Daily.
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From a human perspective, not even as a Vikings fan, I hope Darnold can get his career back on track and finally realize some of his potential. 🌟
Don"t sell Darnold short, give him a chance.
This is a great chance for Sam. I'm not holding my breath
The Judd "Hellooo" never gets old😂😂😂😂
As a USC fan & a southern california native I’ve watched Sam in hs & college he is gonna be the man I promise skolvikes fighton
hi guys, you are so hilarious I have had a rough year and you cheer me up. I just started watching you right before free agency and Im so glad I clicked on purple daily, alot of the these other you tube people can be so boring my head start bobbing I dont what you call it maybe rythum or a nice flow to your show thank you so much from TK
Be encouraged....there is always a silver lining.
I watched all of Darnold's 49ers snaps he looks very different for a good team. He needed some further reps as he was a bit rusty but he certainly looked good.
With Darnold being in San Francisco as back up last year and now he has McCowan and KOC working with him, I think he will surprise alot of people, not to mention the supporting cast on the team
Judd on that Jet OC “cant say as that I’m familiar with his work”. LOL!!’
I guess no one has ever heard of Jim Plunkett. Number 1, Heisman winner. Went to dumpster fire New England. Left and later won 2 Super Bowls.
😅
They did say 5 teams brought in veteran starter who went on to win a superbowl and only named Brady and Manning because they had also won with their original team. I'm assuming one of the 3 unnamed is Jim Plunkett
What years were those Superbowls? Cause '77 was stabler.
In Oakland, not NE
Good story. But different era. Not apples to apples.
The mothball discussion was priceless. Thank you for sharing your generational hilarity, and individuality. I love it when Phil is "smirky" during the amusing off-topic discussions. Great show, fellas.
Met Dalton Risner at red cow in Minneapolis the night of the game he did his Ninja kick in. Dude looked like he’d been in a bar fight but still said hi and was very nice. Bring his weird ass back to the vikes
I really look forward to what Sam can do.
So busy with work but still enjoying the content even if I’m a day behind.
Write this down! Sam Will have 71% Com., 4,550+ Yrds, 30+ TDs, 5- Int & 108+ QB Rating and at least get past the first round this year.
Is this his wife’s burner account?
in 17 games those numbers are pretty good, playoff status. however, even the best QBs. throw ints. so i would say darnold would have around 10 - 11 ints
Where's the 3rd part of that parlay? Sam Darnold is going to be the MVP, win a playoff game, AND then you're going to wake up. Going to be tough to quantify a wet dream however. Maybe you can bring your stained sheets onto the show as proof?
Passed.
Lol
Darnold has the same skillset as a Drake Maye so there is no need to trade up unless you want a Jaydan Daniels type who has a skillset which can't be taught.
So if Maye is their target id rather draft another position and ride Darnold at qb.
No he doesn’t…. When has he proven that? People don’t seem to understand that good QBs don’t get passed around the league……… even decent QBs are kept around as backups……
"Lick your own butt if you think they are going to trade for Justin Herbert... I was talking to Declan" -- Phil Mackey. Best line on the show for years.
It is a nice thought though. Getting Herbert.
Love Penix's mental makeup - highly underrated asset this time of year
True, the top QB prospects this year all seem like good mental-toughness guys besides Caleb Williams 😂
@BtwixedA talent like Penix is NOT going to last until 23, under ANY circumstances. I would be surprised if he's available at 11. If KOC loves him, they will have to get to 7 and give Tennessee a couple of late picks or a next year's pick to move up 4 picks.
@@CameronSlaysTBEPainted nails doesn't make him mentally weak, it makes him a new age millennial.
@BtwixedI would consider that rising not falling. Penix is an early round two prospect that could be a bottom of the first because QB. Of course teams have crazy reaches every year so he could go early. Though I’d be pissed if Vikings took him at 11.
@Btwixed you maybe correct, he could be there at 23 but i think there is gonna be a team that falls in love with his arm takes him in the top 15 picks
I always bring flask of whiskey to celebrate great shot on the course, it use to be birdies but as you get older now if 2 player par a hole we take a shot!
Love your show,been Viking fan since 61 I am 70 years old I see in my dreams Sam Darnold and KOC are the new Bud and Francis, gotta get that superbowl dudes we are overdue, SKOL
Bud and Fran were 0-3 in the big one
@@yolo25000well, you know . . . BESIDES that part 😂
I think Darnold still has some runway in terms of his career progression. I believe he could still be a solid starter in the NFL (my USC bias notwithstanding). The one thing I was concerned about when he came out is that he regressed quite a bit in his last season at SC. Kinda similar to Caleb in that he was asked to do too much for a team whose roster that had taken a major step down in his final season. He was forcing throws and was reckless at times. His ceiling will never reach his draft selection status, but 7 years from now Sam might still be in the NFL.
Plunkett
NE (5 yrs.) and SF (2 yrs.)
both bad to terrible teams
Raiders - 2 Super bowl wins
PLAYERS CAN CHANGE
I'll never forget the ghost sightings poor Darnold had in that game against the Patriots. I felt for the guy cause Patriots defense was just swarming him and picking off every pass he threw. I'm kind of a fan of the Pats, as that was always my moms team since she was born and raised in Boston, so I was enjoying them blasting the Jets, but those are the kind of games that ruin rookie QBs
If they draft Drake Maye they better be ready to play Darnold for more than a year because if they want him to become great Maye will likely need more than a year to permanently lock in the improved footwork and help his processing on the field.
Crazy enough, that analysis by Judd almost is an analogy for life. You don’t give up on someone after a single year. Or you have to look at where they came from and then assess logically. And this could be for work as well.
Declan I have those same kind of dreams it’s trippy
I’d like BPA at 11 and 23 and run it with Darnold. If it blows up then we nab a QB next year. We need a lot more than a QB
Stick and pick has a lot of appeal - especially with the trench players that are going to be available.
Next year’s QB class is not as good. Maybe two guys will end up with a first round grade. Will be tough to get one unless the Vikings bottom out.
Also, Darnold has little chance of ever being more than a fringe starter. He isn’t even that yet but could have a Mayfield/Geno Smith type season and earn some $$$ next year. But I wouldn’t hold my breath on him becoming the franchise savior. Have to move forward with the necessary moves to improve the team, such as drafitng a 1st round QB.
not picking a QB in the first round? i would go IOL at 11 and DE at 23. those are the two biggest weaknesses on both sides of the ball
😂great sound bite at the end to close out the show!
I’m glad you guys are doing the bright side goofy rumors of people running into KOC!
Would love to know forno’s/miles/thors thoughts on late round sleepers: Gabe Hall 6-6 291 DT from Baylor with a 9.25 RAS and Jacob Monk 6-3 308 OG from Duke w a 9.74 RAS
I hope someone sends the same Darold episode to their prospects
So if KOC is this fabulous QB Guru and he can help all these rookies, why can't KOC help Sam where he struggles and make him a franchise QB? Just asking
that rookie contract allows a team to stack up on quality players before the QB signs that mega-deal contract. this is why tom brady always signed for less money. that allowed new england to build solid teams around him
I'm just wondering why people still believe KOC is some kind of QB whisperer when he hasn't demonstrated that ability anywhere ever. His only accomplishment was holding a clipboard for a true offensive genius Sean McVay during a Super Bowl run. Just look at the long line of QB's KOC has worked with and none of them have amounted to anything. You can't even say there was marginal improvement over what they already were. I think he's the Kirk Cousins of HC's. If he gets lucky and ends up with a Patrick Mahomes, then he has a shot of actually looking like a genius. Otherwise it's nothing but excuses.
How in the world do Phil and Declan have never heard of mothballs or just the expression ‘putting something (or someone) in mothballs’?
If Darnold has gotten rid of the "ghosts" and is MENTALLY more advanced than he used to be, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he has a breakout season. When I watched him play at USC, my eyes saw a potential star NFL quarterback. The PHYSICAL talent is definitely there. If KOC can "fix" him mentally, we can have a diamond in the rough. That being said, I still want Penix, even if he has to sit and learn for a season. Worse/best case scenario, SD plays so well, that he garners us a high draft pick in a trade.
KOC has never "fixed" anyone ever. There's enough evidence to suggest QB's get worse under KOC however and yet the belief is still that he's some sort of QB whispering offensive genius xD.
@@purplepainforums There's a first time for everything.
What happened to random
Viking of the week?
omg ... the discussion about moth ball ... too funny
Did Johnny Unitas start in Super Bowl V [Colts vs. Cowboys] or was it Earl Morrall? That might be one of the 5 veterans who was brought in and won. Doug Williams in 87 for the Redskins may have been another?
Can you please do an edit where all of declan's comments are gracefully edited out? He's like the puppy who jumps over the big dogs yipping away.
Sam is in a perfect situation to get himself a big payday. He’s more mobile than Kirk was and has all the tools. If he can put together a good season he can go out and get starter pay. It would be hard not to have a good year considering the car he gets to drive. If the rookie ends up getting hurt or not living up to the hype the Vikings could extend Sam.
Seems like a good situation for everybody involved. I like seeing underdogs break out of their shell and kick butt. One of those feel good stories.
I dont want them to draft a QB unless one falls. Take the 2 BPA at the selection and ROLL with Darnold. He is a top 3 pick, we already scored big.
Everyone keeps thinking he’s a bust and a rookie will be a savior. I’d love if this happened. I’d take a qb at 11 then trade 23 for a haul if possible
God some fans are pathetic. Youre hoping a guy whose already been given a chance all of a sudden does well. Id rather roll with a qb and start over with a rookie. Going defense with both picks will be the most idiotic thing ever. Besides, even if we draft a qb darnold can still play if hes worth a damn at all. But either way, they need a qb in the draft. Thats what koc and kwesi were hired for, not for kirk cousins or sam darnold. The qb class next year is dreadful.
@@laserchiefwankoo204and I bet you’re the type of fan who cries if the Vikings get blocked out of a top 5 pick. Go finger click your online girlfriend
@@trueflight1010Relax. He was rude with the intro in his comment but it wasn’t a bad take at all. No need to escalate.
@@intrepidfoolmeh. Both were equal deliveries
I'm surprised you never heard of Mothballs. I never used them, but my parents had them. I think it is if you are storing clothes in the attic, garage or storage unit.
boy do they stink
do you know where the "I want to mock!" comes from? Like the full version of it, not the "I want to rock!" version/
Trading up forMcCarthy/ drafting Nix are the only things this team could do to make me take a step back, otherwise SKOL, let’s make JD5 a Viking😈
Draft defense (d-end or corner)
Or, a stud offensive linemen with the 11th and 23rd pick. Please don't trade up and give up draft capital for a big gamble. ( Especially JJ.McCarthy). Dude reminds me of Zack Wilson. We saw how that worked out for the Jets. Even though i still wouldn't want them to trade up. The only QB that i feel is worth it is Jayden Daniels
It’s sounds like mcarty would expose koc for not knowing how to run the ball so I think penix is the guy to throw and hand off occasionally and keep draft capital this also means if koc can’t run he is gone in a few years.
Michigan seemed to run a lot of screens too, another thing KOC can't do. Didn't see a whole lot of 7 step drops in Harbaughs offense.
I don't know about automatically cutting ties with a vet mercenary if he doesn't win you a SB after 4 years, it should depend on how well those 4 years went, but having said that, if the "mercenary" only gets you to playoffs once in those 4 years, and doesn't even sniff a CC, then what the hell are you doing? The Vikings went 6 years and wanted to keep going but the Falcons came in and out Viking'd them. It doesn't exactly instill confidence in KOC if he thought he was ever going to win anything with Kirko. Working with 6 years of less evidence, even Zimmer knew that much.
Phil talking about the awful Jets/Panthers situation like Darnold is now in the best situation of his career, and I'm just sitting here feeling even more sorry for Darnold because now he has to suffer through KOC's dysfunctional offense lol. The guy who doesn't know how to design a simple screen pass or an effective run game, and only knows about the 7 step drop. At Darnold's next stop in 2025, they're going to talk about how the poor guy had to work under Bowels, Gase, Reich, and then KOC. Has a QB ever been in a worse situation to start a career?
Then Judd doubles down comparing the situation to Steve Young, like KOC would even be fit to hold a clipboard for Bill Walsh much less be compared to such offensive genius. KOC hasn't developed or unlocked anything, anywhere, at any level. No QB he's ever touched has amounted to anything and I doubt that's going to change with Sam Darnold, so when he fails yet again, the excuse is already baked in, Sam Darnold was always just a dumpster fire.
High hopes and low expectations. That being said, this is hands down the best opportunity Darnold has had.
Every Sunday night after watching Christian ponder play id wake up screaming…
Does PD need an official butcher of the show cause boys I’ve got the meats. I’m a third generation butcher would love to be some sort of regional manager lol
Oh man maybe a cut the fat segment about guys the Vikings should consider cutting or trading thoughts?
The past few years the Vikings couldn't have unlocked a safety pin without a years worth of training and a pair of pliers.
I like what JJ Shows but he does need to develop the soft touch, to lob for his receivers to run onto. Instead of every throw 100mph
On the moth ball topic…..I once was playing in a friends backyard as a little kid picked one up thought it was candy and bit into it 🤣🤣🤣
Moth balls and , or bounce sheets to keep mice out of stored items when in storage.
Such as boats, cars, campers, etc.
Plot twist: Phil making made the comment about Thor 💀😂
I had a dream it was Daniels!
I hear KOC saying he needs to play with a quiet mind!
Another way of saying it is "When the game slows down" for him.
Stick and pick. Get the biggest baddest OL and DL available with 11 and 23. Build the trenches. Most of these highly drafted QB’s don’t pan out. If Darnold doesn’t work give Jaren Hall another shot.
Penix also a Husky Dawg
Missed matt stafford in QB trading trams and wining unless trades were not factored in.
Dreams are weird. I keep having reoccurring dreams of an older version of me in the early 1950’s. Don’t know what that means.
Dreaming about your grandfather maybe?
I think KOC can. It's one of the reasons I'd like to see them draft the best available QB at 11, and then grab a defensive player at 23. The only thing the top 5 teams in the draft are going to do now is try to squeeze more draft picks out of us, so it's not worth losing our 1 in 2025. Darnold is much better than Joshua Dobbs, and any other QB they had from last year after Cousins got hurt. His biggest issue has been reading his progressions and getting rid of the ball. It certainly isn't his arm strength and accuracy.
Is there a chance Darnold is "unlocked"? Yes. Darnold has physical tools and will be put into a great position with the talent around him and the coaching around him. Plus he's at the point now where he should be really able to reach the next level because he's got enough experience to be comfortable in an NFL offense, reading NFL defenses, and able to process.
HOWEVER...he's always been a bit turnover prone and I do worry that KOC's offense will be too demanding on the QB to process/make decisions and Darnold will not be able to handle it. So we will see if KOC can simplify things enough for Darnold the way he did initially for Dobbs, but then keep it relatively simple enough for Darnold to handle without being too limiting on the offense. Dobbs could not handle things as they tried to expand what they did on offense. KOC just demanded too much of him. Mullens was actually able to do it somewhat but his brain kept writing checks that his arm couldn't cash.
Draft a 1st round Guard and help Darnold AND Jones!
the worries about a big Darnold contract if he succeeds is overstated.
cap space next year and in 2026 leave plenty of room. plenty.
don't use it as an excuse not to keep him he does what his scouting report projected
Look what he did with cousins we all forget how well it wasn’t going when KOC came
Sounds like revisionist history. 2022 was Cousins worst year as a starter statistically. The only thing he did well were 4th quarter comebacks, but everyone seems to forget Kirko and KOC's offense completely disappeared every 2nd and 3rd quarter, which is why they needed all the 4th quarter comebacks. His QB rating was 11 points higher under Baby Kubes. And 2023 wasn't much better after the horrible 1-4 start.
I had a dream that Vikings picked Nix🤷♂️
You mean a nightmare?.........
His numbers on a bad team are better than Mullin's on great offensive teams.
If you know moth balls that takes you back to the 70’ and 80’s or vhs days
Vikings trading Justin Jefferson and 2025 #1 to Cardinals for #4 and picking Maye or McCarthy, then trading pick #11 and #23 to move up and select Malik Nabors.
Enunwa, go BIG RED
Phil doesn't believe in the long A. Must be a regional thing.
Minnesotans have a weird thing where they pronounce 'vague' with a short a, but -ag words have a long A (bag="bayg," rag="rayg,"). It's only -ag words; bat, bad, back have the normal short A.
I think Sam Darnold is going to be great here. I don't think we're going to need to draft any quarterbacks. Beyond everything else he has really great footwork. Better than most NFL quarterbacks already. he has had a really terrible situation thrust upon him and I hope the Vikings don't screw this up because they let a number one draft fall into their laps. Nothing ever goes right for the Vikings quarterback wise maybe something finally has. OK nothing is gone right since they drafted Kramer Culpepper excuse me Vikings have drafted three good quarterbacks Kramer and Culpepper in 64 years
Draft Penix at 11
....and DI at 23; that would be a win.
Let's hope KOC can unlock Darnold because the guy Drake Maye reminds me the most of coming out is Darnold. Built-in-lab frame, arm and athleticism with bonehead turnovers and inconsistency. Darnold's last year at USC wasn't great, but the Jets traded up from 6 to 3 for him anyway. Oops.
Case Keenum had such a season. And he-like Nick Foles left the following season. Why after winning the Super Bowl would the Eagles not give him the benefit of the doubt the following season?
The opportunity costs of taking two QBs in this draft is enormous and Kwesi simply wouldn’t do it.
Red Cow? In Idaho there was the Red Steer. The locals called it Commie Cow
I can't believe you guys haven't heard of moth balls. If you live in the country they are really good at keeping mice out of your car. Just put them underneath
Take Slovis in the 3rd or 4th. Best sleeper qb in the draft.
What bout staying pat and going up to get draft marvin jr
Shock the world then upgrading a linmen or db
I agree if KOC wants McCarthy thats his choice and its his job on the line so you have to trust him for that. My whole point about Thor is that he doesn't quit talking about him like he's the god of football. On top of that he degrades Maye. I will ride with it, but not like it if we pick McCarthy. It's not my job on the line...😀
Darnollds strengths is the short to intermediate level. Blonde KOC only runs vert offense with no screens and run game. Welcome to Pick 6 City.
sounds like KOC needs to expand his offense
he's a one trick pony.
a stubborn egomaniac determined to show the NFL that NO RUN GAME is necessary and the screen game is unimportant. he sucks at both and doesn't seem to care. his run game is perhaps the least imaginable in NFL history
(i was a college running back who split out in 3 receiver sets - in the 1970's)
welcome to no playoff victories with KOC and his one dimensional offensive design
I thought he was really accurate
You would think that playing against Flores's defense in practice everyday would FORCE him to change somewhat. If he doesn't, maybe Flores will be the next head coach?............
@@robertnelson3018 Egomaniac Flores has no chill even in practice. Kirk said so himself. Doesnt help.... And no, the snitch will never be a HC ever again since he pulled the race card to Hou in which JOSH McCown was going to be HC... Funny they're on the same team now.
@@robertnelson3018 I thought it was a red flag when we heard throughout training camp that KOC and Kirko were struggling against the Flores defense, and the excuse we got was, "lucky we don't have an opponent that runs a Flores style defense" lol.
Did jud just say poweraid is the same thing as water? 🙄
cedar blocks do the same thing as moth balls and they smell better
Upcoming Draft:QB OL CB
So what Judd is saying is you sell a slightly used car that has proven its durability in order to keep a brand new model simply because you paid more for it. Makes zero sense. In that scenario, it makes much more sense to sign Darnold to a 3 or 4 year mid-range contract and play him another year. If he balls out again, he's proven that he's your guy and you trade the rookie for whatever you can get, ala Trey Lance. If you get a 2nd or 3rd rounder for him, then cool. You have your franchise QB who is under 30 so nothing else matters. Ask SF if they care about losing on a draft sheet for a couple of years. What you don't do is allow your ego to dictate your path.
I've been speaking English for over 50 years & I can confirm that "absence of evidence" LITERALLY means "the evidence is absent".
You are missing the point. Let me reframe it: just because you aren’t aware of the evidence doesn’t mean it isn’t there.
Yeah I know that, that's not what was said. You need to replace your sarcasm detector, it's broken.
Playing on an absolute HORRIBLE franchise coming out of college I'm willing to give the guy a chance with the Vikings, all their weapons, KOC, and the new OC. I hope the kid turns it around and who knows maybe he turns out great and the Vikings can trade him for a first round pick...lol
Ride Darnold for a year, take BPA at 11 and 23.
Draft newton & Travis Jordan as Vikings future QB
Poor Darnold.
it wasnt dumpster fire itwas a 3 alarm fire
Best case scenario vikings draft a QB, Darnold plays great but our rookie is ready and shows is better and they we trade him to a QB needy team who lost a QB due to injury for like a 2nd,3rd,4th round pick
And then who is our backup? Keep Darnold cause he's been a backup and can handle it mentally.
Sounds like Mettlers! .25 scoops
Who cares how it happens…. if we get a top 10 quarterback, and if it happens to be Darnold, who cares? Pay the Man.
Declan..... about your dreams
sometimes when you're sleeping in a position that limits your mobility, like the blanket is wrapped around you (mummy style) or you've rolled over on arm and pinned it - your mind creates a reason why you can't make a movement being impeded by your sleeping position.
Thor ranking JJ as the 3rd best prospect is a joke... Should be around 20
Thor said Malik Willis was the best player in the draft a couple of years ago 😂
@@tomhardy4820[Insert Scout / Analyst Name] said [Insert Player Name] was a [Insert # 1-7] round pick [Insert Number] years ago. What a joke.
Show me a scout or analyst that hasn’t been wrong about a player. I mean, at least make arguments with a modicum of sensibility.
Okay so right now quick trips quarterback is Sam darnold what is that say
Can’t stand McCarthy being that he is a Wolverine… but he had that winning “it” factor that is rare to come by
Ok - now we have officially run out of things to talk about. "Will Minnesota Vikings unlock Sam Darnold as QB. 1?" get the 'eff outta here!
So the mothball is a Star Trek term that is widely used for federation starships that are put on the side and kept up-to-date until they need it again and they bring it out to be put back in service again. Deep space nine for the defiant was what situation for Benjamin Sisko in the episode.