Coronation, DICTAPHONES & Duty! The ROYALS By Kitty Kelley
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- Welcome to our book chat! In episode 8, I discuss another chapter from The Royals by Kitty Kelley.
It is all about the coronation of Queen Elizabeth the 2nd and the UK is in the party mood. The mourning for King George VI is over, the black armbands are off and sugar rations are no more.
Was everybody on a sugar high or a Coronation high?
Let's find out.
Continue the discussion in the comments below.
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Welcome to our book chat! In episode 8, I discuss another chapter from The Royals by Kitty Kelley.
It is all about the coronation of Queen Elizabeth the 2nd and the UK is in the party mood. The mourning for King George VI is over, the black armbands are off and sugar rations are no more.
Was everybody on a sugar high or a Coronation high?
Let's find out! 😂❤
I’ve always thought Catherine modeled herself after Her Late Majesty rather than her mother in law. That story about the queen’s penny pinching ways calls to mind the queen having to tell Catherine she should buy more couture rather than high street clothes - Catherine had wanted to not presume with Charles’s money. Whereas Megsy came in trying to bankrupt the man! She LOVES spending other people’s 💰
The Queens clothes were all made in the UK..the Queen was aware high street can come from dubious employers…and should Katherine be seen in a high street outfit then found to come from a sweat shop employing children …etc ….it would be devastating..
My Grandfather bought the first television in their street especially for the Coronation and all the neighbours crowded in to watch. My Dad remembered it clearly all his life. They had a huge street party. He often talked about the end of rationing and how he was amazed the first time he went to the local shop and the grocer told him that he could buy as many sweeties as he liked. As a boy born the year War broke out, he had never known anything but rationing. He would often tell us, and it became a family joke, that he didn’t even see a banana until he was 5 ❤
What a lovely memory for you. What a time in History for your Grandfather.
Great story! Wonderful memories for the family.
Lady Glenconnor is an abuse survivor. I have so much respect for what she so gracefully endured and her commitment as a mother. Love that she is now a respected writer.
Unique woman!
I've read her nook, what her husband put her through and society's views on it were horrid!!
I read her book. What an INCREDIBLE woman!! ❤
@jenniferfirer2837 I definitely plan to read Lady Glenconnor's book. She sounds like such a strong woman and a true survivor! I'm sure she is also a wonderful role model, especially for women who may find themselves in an abusive relationship or marriage.
If there anyone at all on earth I’d like to take out to lunch and have a good old natter with it’s Lady Anne. She’s had a fascinating life and seems like such a lovely warm and funny woman. Her books are up there in the list of the very best autobiography I have ever read.
If Margaret could be threatened with losing her title of Princess, why can’t Harry also be stripped of his title?
The Queen was stricter in those days 😂
@@thevintageread Royal protocol and life in general was very different then
My understanding is Charles can strip the HRH & Prince title, but Parliament has to intervene to strip the Ducal title.
@@thesubparty1Thanks for a reasonable explanation. I am afraid the King may not want to deal with his deeply unstable son. I could understand that, especially since playing ostrich is often the way problems are solved in that family. Sad.
Charles is harrys father so wont do it. The Queen was Margarites sibling just like William is harrys! Watch this space methinks!
I very clearly remember the Queen's coronation. I was probably in Grade One in Canada. The students all went outside as a tree was planted in honor of her. Each child also received a lovely mug with her image on it as well as a large "English penny". And every Christmas day we listened for her message, first on radio and later on television. I feel very badly about what she went through in her final years.
The Queen was frugal, doubtless as a habit from the years of austerity. My parents were the same - my father was saving water for Australia. I toured Britannia when it was dry docked in Edinburgh and my goodness, the furnishings! Very used , floral, and comfy but certainly not updated in years.The Queen and Prince Philip slept in rather narrow single beds which totally surprised me. I had a better bed! However, the public areas, like the formal dining room, were absolutely stunning and showcased the wealth of the Queen. Obviously, she used her money only for the public role. Very sensible, if you think about it. I imagine that Andrew and Harry (and their wives) did not get that memo!
I agree, it actually reminds me of my own late grandparents. They all lived through the Depression and WWII. All of the rationing and also, this generation believed in saving their money. You didn’t borrow on credit, you saved until you could afford to buy a new car or a new home for example. Add to that HM the late Queen’s and Prince Philip’s understanding that to whom much is given, much is expected. We need more of this today!
The rationing of the sugar stop in 1947, meat was the last in early 1950, and l actually remember, l was there. There was no rationing of sugar then. I was 12 years old in 1953. We all went to a cinema a Genève in Switzerland to see the whole coronation. It was a huge event in my life l will never forget. Also l never been in a movie cinema. We were very aware how huge and important all this was . Even that télévision existed where we live no body had such thing, that was luxury. To me it was a fairy story, l never thought one day l would swear allegiance to my Queen when l become Australian13 years later. Thankyou Shauna for the enormous work you do to tell about that amazing story that was part of my life. That is when l realise l am getting old . Sorry talk to much! ❤❤❤
🇦🇺🦘🦘🦘🐨Thanks for sharing this intriguing book Shauna! Im currently listening to it on Audible…Amazing how little Markle really learned from all her royal research… if she wants to know how to create a historically venerated highly valuable brand all she had to do was look at her her husband’s grandmother & mother!! But NO she barely scrapped the surface of either woman’s amazing example! Her appropriation of commonwealth countries for the virginal veil, followed just months later with the trashing of the commonwealth calling it “Empire 2.0” just TYPICAL of the superficial copying then of literally pooing in her own backyard by trashing the beloved queen’s legacy… the stupidity, irony & hypocrisy of this woman’s overt public behaviours just beggars belief… one feels like one’s head is going to fall off one’s shoulders with all the constant spinning of innuendo, game playing & obvious lies!!! She’s a mental case… I hope someone (other than her) is looking after those poor little kids… 😳🤯🤦🏻♀️
There was another well known quote regarding QEII wishing to practice with Edwards crown. She had asked a courtier "can I somehow borrow the crown, to wear and get used to its weight"... the courtier apparently looked at her confused "borrow Ma'am? Its yours" lol
I traveled across the Atlantic twice on the S.S. United States, when my father was transferred to Germany during the 1960s. Because of my father’s rank we traveled first class, so my Mother took me to Sax Fifth Avenue to improve my wardrobe for the formal dining room. For a thirteen year old whose closet consisted of uniforms, and Sunday church dresses this was a revolution. First of all nylons and pumps were shocking, compared to tennis shoes and loafers. The ensemble that made me feel completely grown up was my teal mohair dinner suit; it was stunning. Dinner every evening was spectacular with embossed menus of very grand selections like Tournedos, Duck à l'Orange, Crepe Suzettes, and Baked Alaska (deserts really caught our interest). There were concerts, movies, and teen dances in the evenings to keep us entertained. We spent our days exploring the ship, walking the deck, reading in the library, and most anxiously dolphin and whale watching. It was an experience of a lifetime!
I have always felt I would have quite liked Prince Philip. The RF benefited from having an “enforcer” - someone unimpressed by pomp, willing to hear and speak plain truth.
I remember the Queens coronation. I paraded with a teacosy on my head and cut-outs of the Orb and Septre as if I was the Qiueen❤
Creative play! you didn't need a preformed Lego play set, you made your own set and it was regal because you imagined it to be so.
2 coronation tidbits: the crown that the Queen was practising with at home (there were 2 -- or was it 3 -- crowns used during the coronation) got left behind by the entourage on the way to Westminster Abbey. The Queen departed from the Palace in her coach wearing a different crown -- as planned. When the Archbishop or someone noticed that the other crown wasn't in Westminster Abbey, there was utter consternation. Had it been stolen? they were relieved to finally deduce that the other crown must be sitting on the Queen's breakfast table -- probably unattended by now, in the nearly deserted Palace. Someone had to hightail it back to the Palace, scoop up the crown very unceremoniously and deliver it to the Abbey before the the procession arrived. Luckily it arrived in time.
About the Queen opening the Scottish parliament in day dress: she didn't make the same mistake with the other nations of the Commonwealth. The massively heavy coronation gown, plus tiara, went with her on her Commonwealth tour 1953-54, and she wore them to open the various national parliaments, attended by 2 of her Coronation "maids of honour" in their coronation gowns and tiaras too. (I dont think the crowns were allowed to leave the UK, which probably suited the Queen, as tiaras are much lighter.) But the gown was worn so many times! For example in Australia, she opened the national parliament in Canberra and also all the 6 state parliaments as well. The tour took place in the height of the Australian summer (Jan-Feb) complete with temperatures over 32 degrees Celcius; and often with no air-conditioning. The Queen is said to have found the heavy gown hot. I so admire how this monarch did not shortchange her subjects on that tour, despite how gruelling it was.
Thank you for this memorable story
I made the bunting for the pallmall, imade it all over the easter holidays1952! I could not think it had to be made over a year ahead, red ,white, blue , green and yellow i was the age of twelve at the time, the easter holidays were all sunny days i can still remember it well , im 84years
Same here
What a lovely memory.
Thank you for sharing that💙
What a beautiful story! And such wonderful memories and history for your family. Blessings!
Oh that's a lovely memory!
Loved the little story of Prince Charles saying to Princess Anne don’t disturb mummy, she’s queening 😂
It’s interesting to hear how strict the the queen was on Princess Margaret and that they would have to live in exile.
It does start to make me wonder if the stories I have heard now about the queen telling MM to leave the country were her exiling her and this was not a decision they actually made and why she hardly ever comes back 🤷♀️
I think we all know it has nothing to do with security as they head to Nigeria. Hmm 🤔
@Space_cadet0007 I think it is more to do with not wanting to get booed so publicly. Harry's wife has a very thin skin!
@@lisalivingston6473 yes she does have think skin I appreciate that but I still feel it’s more than booing that is stopping her coming back here. It might be a part of it but it’s not the whole imo
@@Space_cadet0007 IMO...the 'other part' may be the request/demand for the apology! Meghan may not like/want to hear boo's but supposedly her requests to talk with the King directly, one on one, have gone unanswered where I'm sure she feels she can 'negotiate' everything as Harry is useless in this. Even IF this were true, I'd Never trust any words/promises she makes for anything as her track record has shown us the proof by her actions.
Well said and very astute.
@@ajune583 yes you have made a good point there 👍 it could very well be spite that she won’t come as none of her calls to see the king have been answered and being the narcissist she is she will hate that.
Prince Philip played an instrumental part in getting the BBC their role in filming the coronation of his wife QEII. Against everyone, Elizabeth and Philip were of the same mind that this was a historical, monumental moment in history and needed to seen by as many people as possible. The sale on Tv's skyrocketed as everyone wanted to watch their young QUEEN be crowned....such a beautiful moment. I was a young girl, about 7or8 and got to see the coronation....many years later i watched it in colour. Stunning affair no doubt.
Prince Philip chaired a commission in 1953 to televise the coronation which horrified Winston Churchill.
Andrew Morton's The Queen said Elizabeth also practiced walking with a sack of flour on her head, for the weight, and she did it unapologetically. 😊❤
Aw, my nanna never got over sugar rationing, she hourded it right up to the early 80s
Amazing what war can change about a person!
The Great Depression too. The “Greatest Generation” lived with true austerity vs. today.
Thanks all I got booted out of my own live chat! 😂
You'd best behave yourself then young lady! 😂😂😂🇦🇺
🤬Really? I’m sure my 🇺🇸 Senator would defend your freedom of speech. I can tell him if you’d like, I can ask. He’s helped many, Let me know.
I do believe you were. Were you being a saucy Aussie?
How did that happen 🤣
Say it ain't so. You're one of the kindest and politest RUclipsrs on here.
Enjoyed listening to Kitty Kelly book, took me back to watching the Coronation on a 6inch TV with all the neighbours crowed in the living room. I liked Prince Philip his life was never easy from the start, he was faithful to his promise made on that day. A big thank you once again.
The Windsor greys pulling the golden coach cantered down the Mall? Surely not. I understood it was so heavy that they could only walk, not even trot, let alone canter!
Growing up in America and adoring history, i loved all of the English history i could read. As i matured i took more interest in Queen Elizabeth II and her family over Queen Elizabeth I. While i felt certain that Queen Elizabeth II was the steel diplomat inside a doe skin glove, Prince Philip definately struck me as one that tooketh no crap!
With the upcoming antics of Princess Margaret I'm surprised the Queen didn't gobble down Valium like chicklets! She definitely presented as a woman of steely strength.
It was also before the days of “Health and Safety “ that is why so many people were invited.💕 Looking forward to tomorrow’s chat.💕
Aah! Makes sense!
"Health and Safety"
I believe Meghan's gown has been sent back to Givenchy for a final fitting.😂
Maids of Honor is proper since each were required to be unmarried.
Matron of Honor is used if the woman is married.
We went to London last year for the Coronation. Couldn't get close for so many people already camped out and the Coronation procession was shortened to only go from Buckingham Palace to Westminster and back, making it even harder to see it if you didn't camp out. It was still fun to be in London during that historic day.
Shauna, I was glad to hear that you intend to speed up your review of Kitty Kelley's book. It is rather encyclopedic in size, and you're right, at this pace it would take the better part of this year to complete. I look forward to hearing which books you plan to review next. I'm currently listening on Audible to Dickie Arbiter's 2021 memoir about his life and work as a press secretary to the Prince and Princess of Wales (Charles and Diana). It's quite good, and Mr. Arbiter narrates the book himself. I was also excited to hear that Robert Jobson, a royal commentator, plans on releasing a biography about Princess Catherine later this summer. So many books... so little time - LOL!
Hi Shauna & Thanks! One of the York girls used the Queen’s wedding dress, for her own wedding.
Having live chat at 1 in the morning was lovely 😊 more please x
So glad!
Markle's dress was such a disappointment, horrible and as has become her trademark, terribly ill fitting. The train didn't match and was stupidly long. Only good thing about it was the tiara, that was gorgeous and obviously, nothing to do with her.
Allegedly the tiara may have been a replica! 🤣
@@KatherineSpinks-cu9io Very wise :). She does use extra large handbags at times.
I have enjoyed this review thoroughly. As always, Shauna, your reviews are amazing! 👏❤️
Shauna i cant wait for your recap ❤️🇺🇸 Michigan
Just finished this kitty Kelley, book. The queen was maybe good for the country but crab as mother.
And I just can’t understand why she liked Sarah . Thank God that Sophie and Catherine coming from a well established family are better than the royals . Very very good book.
Sarah was very entertaining when she first came into the family. She wasn't stuffy and stuck up around them. That was in the beginning. She laughed a lot and she loved Andrew. Later, well...she always loved Andrew but her behavior was not the best. Shauna's done a series on Sarah's autobiography too.
Hi from Ann Arbor Michigan. I'm always happy to see a notification from you!
Awesome! Thank you!
Peter Townsend was divorced, as well. People were very sorry for her, if I recall it all. I know my Mum was.
I thought Prince Philip had introduced telephones and walkie-talkies to the Palace.
Hi Shauna, I just caught the film of the behind the scenes of King Charles' coronation last night on SBS. Fascinating. It was interesting to see the part about the Princess Royal and her comments about the drama of such occasions, having to be thoroughly prepared and never knowing where the TV infrastructure would end up. She said that it helped that both the King & her had performed in plays at school. It was very touching how he took her hand and kissed it ( like he had kissed his mother's hand I think maybe at the Platinum Jubilee) while tbey were waiting to go out onto the balcony. It was lovely to see them interacting as a loving family.
Enjoyable as always, but yes it's a damn big book. I would miss much if you shorten it, but it's a damn big book. As always we are the guests, you are the host so it's your choice. 👍 👍
Its a bit that the king Charles didn't tell mr hanky that if he married the stank he would lose his title and royal pension.. i don't think mr hanky would have married the stank.
Reading so much about how bitter Charles was about being denied Camilla makes him more susceptible to not standing in the way. The shame of it is, Charles could have stood up to the disagreements over Camilla, but he DIDN’T. He’s letting regrets rule him too much.
Hi from Wales 🏴 🇬🇧
Great post cariad.
Such a different Coronation from King Charles…. We are living in weird times. 😵💫
I didn't watch KC Coronation, but I adored Queen Elizabeth's Coronation, even today.
@@lorrainebrooke904 I did too. She certainly didn’t suffer fools gladly.
Very entertaining! 7700 people in Westminster Abbey. Wow!
I do feel sorry for Princess Margaret, maybe her life would have been a little happier had she married the man she loved. Instead she married that dreadful Armstrong Jones bloke, he turned out to be a right waste of space and womanizer.
Hi everyone from Galveston, Texas
Hello from Orange, ⭐️ Texas. Not too far from you !
Hello from The Woodlands!
And I am from Houston, Texas!
And I am from the UK! Hi back to all of you. Isn't it great that these connections can be made across the world with like minded people through a RUclips creator! It helps to make the world feel less hostile than it is painted in other media.
Darling Shauna, great job as always on the Kitty Kelly book. May I gently point out that Tommy Lascelles rhymes with Tassels when pronounced. Love your broadcasts. 😊
That gave me a giggle. I preferred Tommy Tassles 😁
The next road to mine is called Lascelles Road, and I have always pronounced it the same as Shauna. It's the English grammatical rule of the double L. A single L would make it like Tassels. Just saying.
If the Windsor Greys had "cantered" along pulling the coronation coach as Kitty Kelly wrote, there would have been a very long Keystone Kops type of event for the hundreds of men trying to keep up behind. It would have been great fun to watch though.
It would have been great fun to be in the carriage. I have been in a carriage with the team cantering, it was hilarious.
I think the street party that we had for the late Queens Coronation is my first memory. I was born in 1950 so I must have only been two, but I described the dress I remembered wearing and she said I was right. It must be because it was such a big thing all the cakes etc and bunting and the big Union Jack flag painted on the wall…..which remained there until the houses were demolished 😂
It should say I described the dress I was wearing to my Mum….sorry
I watched a show about Princess Margaret. The man she wanted to marry, eventually married and friends noticed that the new wife bore a resemblance to Margaret. Sadly the man, Princess Margaret eventually married was a serial cheater.
Wonderful video. Thank you.
Hi Shauna am going to have to catch up - darn have a great day.
You too!!
Loved, loved this episode!!!
This makes me want to watch the coronation on RUclips.
Great episode! So interesting!
Glad you enjoyed it
I can understand why you want to shorten the review of the kitty Kelley book but I think that’s too bad. What it you take a break and get back to it when you feel like it?
It would have been so exciting preparing cameras lighting etc not like today where you just hold up your phone xxxx have we really taking the fun and excitement out of life.
I don/t have to imagine, I remember! Half a Mars bar a week wasn’t much of a sweet ration..
hi from Amsterdam. SIP. 🍷
SIP
He loved her, divorced, waited a while and the remarried quite quickly. If she truly loved him, she would have given up the lot. Lots of us have early romances that in hindsight are a poor match. Imagine if they had married and she kept all, how would he have coped with that circle, not working etc etc. It was doomed whichever way it could have gone.
I found the book a slog too, I only managed to finally finish it because I listened to it when you started reviewing it and I wanted to have a fresh knowledge of it. It’s not my favourite royal book if I’m honest. Have you ever come across the collected letters of The Queen Mother? Called ‘Counting Ones Blessings’ and edited and compiled by her official biographer William Shawcross. There are really quite insightful to the person who was Elizabeth Bowes Lyon . I’m reading them just now and they might make an interesting topic for a few videos, because you could reference historical events and have the actual thoughts of someone who was right in the middle of it all.
I described my experience with Lady C's most recent book as a "slog" also.
It's reminiscent of the history books I had all through school.
@@flyonthewall8122 I haven’t read it yet, I bought her first H&M book and I really can’t justify spending all that money again for an updated version. I’ll wait for paperback or it turning up second hand.
@@yachoobful
I bought this one because I hadn't read the first one.
Since you HAVE, it makes sense that you'd give the updated version a pass.
Hello from Utah. Love your channel ❤️
Of I am correct it was P Philips idear to broadcast the event
People need "bread and circuses". About the sugar, did you know sugar is or used to be used to make explosives?
Hello from central Illinois 😘
Hello there! 😊💗
Margaret..school girl crush..she met so few other young men….he wasted no time finding another love when he moved to a France 🇫🇷
I bought the book when it first came out, and found it so boring that I stopped reading about half way through. I certainly can understand the need to jump ahead. 😂
The Scotish people seem to go out of their way to be offended (when Queen Elizabeth was crowned monorch). Some of the Scotish people went out and distroyed some of the 'new E R ll post boxes', saying that Elizabeth was their first Queen Elizabeth not the second. So Winston Churchill, ruled that it would be the highest number of which was given priority (ie if another king was called James it would be king James Vll (because there has already been six Scotish kings called James).
Hi Shauna.
Hi from Franklin TN 😊
Hey there!
There are other countries in the UK, bar Scotland 😂
Us Welsh peeps are alot more easy going!
We L❤VE everyone!
Especially if you love rugby, such as Australia 😂💯😍🏴🇬🇧
I was astonished to find out that all rationing didn't stop untill 1954,i think it was meat that came off ration last .
It was you are right, the sugar stop after1947 l still got books with stamps of the rationing my Mum and Dad had
Yes. I still have my husband's ration book he kept in our safe. He was born in 1948. I was born in 1954 and didn't need one.
I wonder if QEII truly thought Meghans veil was a sweet tribute or of she found it ridiculously pretentious. 🤔 Echoing the Queens coronation outfit for your wedding seems outrageous to me. Megsy seems to think her wedding was also her coronation.
I can't imagine when The Queen gave her daughter Anne permission to marry her equarry Timothy Lawrence (2nd marriage) years after she told her sister she couldn't marry her equarry
Hi shauna will you be review Andrew launey 's The Traitors King ?
Do you think Meghans wedding dress is in the loft at Montecito? I just wonder if it fits her yet 😂
Also before days of health and safety
👵💜 lovely, shauna
Gosh. Such a gallop. A life dismissed in a minute or two.
Glad you're moving on. Ive had enough Kitty Kelley
Yes! It became a struggle!
@thevintageread I bet! That's a huge amount if material to wade through!
23:20 dashing indeed
I think Markle's wedding gown was ugly and illfitted. Perfect match.
❤❤ GM ❤️ everyone
I am just reading Kitty Kelly book but this bit is missing.
Really? In my copy 😂
I’ve been following chapter by chapter. It’s quite a large volume! So I get it. But please let us know which chapters you’re pulling the highlights from each week so those of us reading along can try to keep up!
Will do! I plan to do another two episodes.
Thank you so much for this. I’ve been revisiting your videos of a year ago because there seemed to be a change in the then and now. And there is, except this video is like the then. Your videos now, not Snarky Snippets, I love them, but more Gossip Before Bed doesn’t gel in the same way it used to. You seem to be in front of the story rather than the story being in front of you.
Cheere Denise a great UTube channel does an Excellent analysis in detail chapter by chapter of The Traitor King, I highly recommend!
Shameless plug on my channel? 😂 I must do the same on hers 😅
Dreadful woman, presents like a tv knife saleswoman shouting her wares.
@@rosemarymurlis-hellings8138I agree. I can't stand her. Unsubscribed after a few weeks.
SHAUNA-It was announced today that King Charles has stripped Harry of his Military role as Colonel-in-Chief of the Army Air Corps and the role will be awarded to another.
Officially the transfer will take place at the Army Aviation Center in Middle Wallop. Where the King will hand over the role of Colonel-in-Chief of the Army Air Corp to his Royal Highness the Prince of Wales.
May 7, 2024
Wouldn’t that have been a slap if H had narrated the Coronation for a US MSM? How low could you go?
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Princess Margaret wasn't stupid, so why she insisted on marrying a man whom was divorced and with his x wife still living is beyond me. She certainly knew about her Uncle and Wallis and the turmoil his insistence to marry a divorced woman caused. Why would she put her sister, the Queen through all that turmoil on her own determination to wed Townsend? To do so was against the Church laws and his sister the Queen could never have allowed a member of the family to do such a thing. In my opinion, Margaret was very selfish when she was younger and expected her sister to do anything and everything to please her.....a spoilt brat indeed. Like someone else we know.
🇬🇧🏴 ❤❤xx
Noel Coward wouldn't be allowed to make that comment today!
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Who's up for some " black n white and boring bit "
Eh? Which in my part of the world translates as 'I'm sorry, I didn't understand what you just said'.. Can you explain please?
Definitely not Canadian
@@brendalee6983Name looks Scottish. Might explain it...