Your breakdown of the historical context and the shift towards abstraction is spot on. I love how you highlighted the global influences on modernism. It's refreshing to see a perspective that goes beyond the Eurocentric narrative. The exploration of how artists responded to societal changes is fascinating. It makes me appreciate modern art on a whole new level.
I really enjoy how this series has shown me a lot of artists I didn't know about before. Even if sometimes my brain is still asleep and thinks an Indian artist was actually an Indiana artist at first.
Thanks Sarah. Love your stuff. Your intellectual take on art is refreshing. I loved your previous series too, with hubby John, about a decade ago ... ... except for the food recipes. I'm not a cook, just an art lover. Keep up the good work.
A urinal changed the course of art in the mid 20th century. This banana merely ran with that momentum. The fact that nearly everyone has heard about this banana and is actually EMOTIONAL about it too (angry? Disgusted? Intrigued, confused?) goes to show that it IS art. Not the banana and tape but the IMPACT it’s made. That’s the important part here. The banana and tape is merely what got us here.
I remember that, it is kinda like performance art, you buy the right to display the the banana in that way, you replace your banana yourself. It also is supposed to be a jab at arthouses and fanciness. Some people thought it was in the same vein as the all white paintings titled " take the money and run ".
Thank you! The series makes me appreciate the complexity of art and how difficult it is to say what it is. I think, there are many valid answers. The western mindset of true art is very exclusive. I hope, the connectedness of all countries doesn't lead to cultural loss. Well, something new will emerge, but I wonder if it remains authentic.
Before I watch this video, I'll give you my definition of art. "Art is anything an artist claims is art. Even more so if they can get someone to believe them."
Interesting that u mentioned a Indian modernist artist like gaganendranath tagore....not many from the so called west consider south asian artists while talking about modernity
I believe that art is whatever is EFFECTIVE. That is to say, if the creator of this banana and tape idea intended to stir up controversy and get people talking about art… then they were effective in doing that! If their intent was to be relate something beautiful, they were not effective. Therefore, the artists intention is all that matters. I consider this effective art. This banana doesn’t even exist anymore but we are still talking about it MANY years later. I’m sure other bananas have even taken its place since the banana itself is not important.
Claude Monet and Edouard Manet were rejected by the French Academie of Fine Arts, and considered "not art", "unfinished" and "sloppy". The entire reason we have the Impressionists is because of a disagreement over the definition of what was art and what wasn't.
We still in the age of rebellion. But my question is have we built anything else that is inspiring? Most modern things are just shocking or subvert expectations but to what end?
It's much more productive to think of art as a process rather than a product. That is to say, a painting is not art. The act of painting itself is art. Apply this more broadly and you will begin to make sense of human artistic expression.
@@MrRizeAGI’d say it’s more the intention behind the act and the product that makes something “art”. Refer to the difference between “art” and “design (or craft)”.
I understand art as a response to the world around you, given a specific form. This is a broad term, sure, but i think it actually captures what art making today is about, since representation is not the (only possible) purpose anymore
Anything any person claims as art is art. Its not really a big barrier to entry. But that do not mean anyone should care about said art. Your art could be my trash. Its the most pointless kind of semantics question.
Only if you like beauty if you like ugly things you can think art is about ugly things, but from a psychological point, it makes me wonder why someone would want to dislike beauty and like ugly @@ronoc9
everything is art. just most art is bad. "that's not art" means "i won't express why i dislike this art." there's no lesson in "that's not art". and you're immediately wrong when 1 person says "yes it is coz it expresses [whatever any single person gets out of it]" it's like saying a flip flop is useless coz it's "not" a shoe. no it's definitely a shoe and i know many people who like it. shoes can be silly and useless, but they're still shoes. idk "that's not art" is something I've only heard salespeople, bad artists, and people who don't like any art say.
But it could be argued that banana-guy has a "talent" for absurdity and stirring-up controversy; the piece IS absurd and controversial -- I acknowledge this argument very reluctantly by the way.
Your breakdown of the historical context and the shift towards abstraction is spot on. I love how you highlighted the global influences on modernism. It's refreshing to see a perspective that goes beyond the Eurocentric narrative. The exploration of how artists responded to societal changes is fascinating. It makes me appreciate modern art on a whole new level.
The real banana was the friends we made along the way 💯🔥😎
It's one banana, Michael. How much could it cost? $150,000?
Thank you so much for this series! Its really opening up art history in a new & fascinating light😊
Sometimes, a banana is just a banana.
Until....
An in other times, a banana symbolizes so much more.
I always figured the original phrase meant that most of the time it's not. So... most of the time it's not a banana?
"this is not a pipe"
yes, I believe the artist said so
Thank you for your clear presentation of a complex subject. Enjoyable too!
I really enjoy how this series has shown me a lot of artists I didn't know about before. Even if sometimes my brain is still asleep and thinks an Indian artist was actually an Indiana artist at first.
Thanks Sarah. Love your stuff. Your intellectual take on art is refreshing.
I loved your previous series too, with hubby John, about a decade ago ...
... except for the food recipes. I'm not a cook, just an art lover.
Keep up the good work.
A urinal changed the course of art in the mid 20th century. This banana merely ran with that momentum. The fact that nearly everyone has heard about this banana and is actually EMOTIONAL about it too (angry? Disgusted? Intrigued, confused?) goes to show that it IS art. Not the banana and tape but the IMPACT it’s made. That’s the important part here. The banana and tape is merely what got us here.
I remember that, it is kinda like performance art, you buy the right to display the the banana in that way, you replace your banana yourself. It also is supposed to be a jab at arthouses and fanciness. Some people thought it was in the same vein as the all white paintings titled " take the money and run ".
Being the first banana to tape oneself to a wall made everyone go bananas. The fact that no banana can do it again, priceless.
I love this series
Our favorite Green.
Thank you! The series makes me appreciate the complexity of art and how difficult it is to say what it is. I think, there are many valid answers. The western mindset of true art is very exclusive. I hope, the connectedness of all countries doesn't lead to cultural loss. Well, something new will emerge, but I wonder if it remains authentic.
Ceci n'est pas une banana? 🍌
One of my favourite pieces of art. (The Treachery of Images, not the banana)
Before I watch this video, I'll give you my definition of art.
"Art is anything an artist claims is art. Even more so if they can get someone to believe them."
Really love this series!!
Thank you from Brazil!
Thank you.
more such content, well done
I wish these episodes were 2 hours long 🤌
Interesting that u mentioned a Indian modernist artist like gaganendranath tagore....not many from the so called west consider south asian artists while talking about modernity
Torres Garcia...oh yeah 👍
Fabulous as usual
Art is subjective and can be anything, doesnt have to be confined in material junks
I love it that before Marcel DuChamp people knew the definition of art. After, no one.
I believe that art is whatever is EFFECTIVE. That is to say, if the creator of this banana and tape idea intended to stir up controversy and get people talking about art… then they were effective in doing that! If their intent was to be relate something beautiful, they were not effective. Therefore, the artists intention is all that matters. I consider this effective art. This banana doesn’t even exist anymore but we are still talking about it MANY years later. I’m sure other bananas have even taken its place since the banana itself is not important.
Art is that which defies definition as soon as you make one. ;)
Claude Monet and Edouard Manet were rejected by the French Academie of Fine Arts, and considered "not art", "unfinished" and "sloppy". The entire reason we have the Impressionists is because of a disagreement over the definition of what was art and what wasn't.
We still in the age of rebellion. But my question is have we built anything else that is inspiring? Most modern things are just shocking or subvert expectations but to what end?
I find lots of modern art inspiring.
Yeah… even in my upper art history and modern art classes had me perplexed on what art is anymore. I personally don’t get it. 🤷🏻♂️
It's much more productive to think of art as a process rather than a product. That is to say, a painting is not art. The act of painting itself is art. Apply this more broadly and you will begin to make sense of human artistic expression.
@@MrRizeAGI’d say it’s more the intention behind the act and the product that makes something “art”. Refer to the difference between “art” and “design (or craft)”.
I understand art as a response to the world around you, given a specific form. This is a broad term, sure, but i think it actually captures what art making today is about, since representation is not the (only possible) purpose anymore
FLAWLESS VIDEO… So insightful. Please be quicker with churning more out!!!
Anything any person claims as art is art. Its not really a big barrier to entry. But that do not mean anyone should care about said art. Your art could be my trash. Its the most pointless kind of semantics question.
Modern art is art that is modern.
It looks so realistic…
B A N A N A 🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌
We talk about art but seems not the commerce behind it. Remove price tag from art, can we? Yet...
Modern art has been a grift from the start.
If you have to explain why something is beautiful: it isn't.
Does art have to be beautiful?
Only if you like beauty if you like ugly things you can think art is about ugly things, but from a psychological point, it makes me wonder why someone would want to dislike beauty and like ugly @@ronoc9
@@Kuchirieldoes art have to be liked?
i don’t think anyone was explaining beauty here or claiming anything shown was beautiful
everything is art.
just most art is bad. "that's not art" means "i won't express why i dislike this art."
there's no lesson in "that's not art". and you're immediately wrong when 1 person says "yes it is coz it expresses [whatever any single person gets out of it]"
it's like saying a flip flop is useless coz it's "not" a shoe. no it's definitely a shoe and i know many people who like it. shoes can be silly and useless, but they're still shoes.
idk "that's not art" is something I've only heard salespeople, bad artists, and people who don't like any art say.
Art is subjective
To qualify as art, it should require talent and / or training to accomplish.
So cave paintings are not art? No academy nowhere to be seen 10.000 bc
is creativity not a talent?
Cave Paintings crying in the corner. 🥶
But it could be argued that banana-guy has a "talent" for absurdity and stirring-up controversy; the piece IS absurd and controversial -- I acknowledge this argument very reluctantly by the way.