Good job. Very informative. I am so glad to find your video: 1. On the rootstock do you make a cut anywhere or only at the node? 2. Can you graft a fig cutting while it is rooting? 3. Zone 7a here. Would you recommend the best time to graft in Spring? 4. Have you tried air layer a fuyu persimmon tree? Keep up the good work. Thanks 🙏.
I grafted persimmon in April when the rootstock buds were first swelling and some tiny leaves were present and the grafts did not take. I tried again in May when the rootstock leaves were large and there was a few inches of stem growth and the grafts took. I think it worked in May because more sap was flowing up and down the tree.
Thank you for the video, can I take a bud from a tree after dormant is over, but the bud did not open yet (let's say in May) and I use it to graft because I didn't save scions from the winter, my zone is 7 Please answer me, thank you again
It is now april of the following year and it does not appear the buds grafted successfully. I grafted the buds late last year so the timing might have proved a problem. I don't even know if this method is going to be successful but I am trying this in early spring this time.(update: the spring grafting was much more successful when I did chip bud grafting.) A learning experience for me. I wish there was more info about chip bud grafting fuyu persimmons on you tube.
I don’t think I’ve ever had a chip bud graft take on persimmon. I have the most luck with bark grafts, veneer inlay type grafts, anything that involves bark slipping and hotter weather seems to give me better results.
Hi Perry again:) You know what, i had success with chipping apple and pear, but only removing the woody part inside the chip. How much wood do you leave on the chip, or how deep you cut into the wood of the scion for chipping? Rootstock and scion diamater are equal as you graft? I heard that the less wood on the chip the better chanches you have with healing. I learned also, that you do not have to make perfect matches on the edges, which i did always, but you have to leave a small frame arround the chip on the rootstock.... In my zone my sharon starts to leaf out in middle of april tiny leaves at first, is it already okay for chipping? If you have any suggestion or supervision or any additional knowledge according to my thoughts i would be very happy. Thanks
I start grafting buds when I see leaves coming out on the root stock in the spring. I want the sap flowing and leaves showing. Then I take my scions from the frig and go to work. The video shows pretty well how much wood I leave on my buds but I'm learning.
I am in zone 7/b my 7 years old Sharon tree has started to leaf out couple of days ago. I had some scions left from february, i stored them in wet newspaper in fridge, then half the part of the sticks in sand in my cellar. Unfortunateley the scions became semi dry… i put them again into water for one night and attempted to chip them 2 weeks ago. At that time there were just swollen buds on my tree. Cutting bud from semi dry wood is very hard and there were some browning inside the chip as well… I had to go deep cause the skin was very thin….. I made 10 attempts but the underslot is not aleay covering the chip because of the deep cut into the scions…. I still do not know if they are taken… I think beginning/mid august is also a good chipping attempt period, no cutting back needed just next april, and it will grow stonger than spring chipping.. the bud just heals into the bark. How do you store scions? If chips fail on a bigger tree, how can i cover the woends to heal themselves again? Thanks Adam
Adam I had a very high success rate grafting my fuyu and hachiya scions last spring. I cut the scions in march and wrapped them in a damp, not wet, blue shop towel and placed those in a zip lock in the fridge. When my root stock started getting leaves in early spring I knew the sap was running and that is when I chip bud grafted to my root stock. When I cut the buds i spritzed them with water to keep them moist until I wrapped them with paratape because I am slow. I also tried to graft the buds on the side of the root stock that sees less sun to keep them more in the shade. I am not an expert. I am just a gardener who managed to get things right so I shared what I did. A few days ago I saw many of my grafts from last year are leafing out with about 2 to 3 feet of growth from the buds I grafted last spring. Yay.
The american persimmon trees that I have seen grow 30 to 40 feet tall. Not sure what you mean by invasive. They are easily controlled in a yard by mowing any start ups.
Like you I practiced my grafting skills on fig cuttings.
Good job. Very informative. I am so glad to find your video:
1. On the rootstock do you make a cut anywhere or only at the node?
2. Can you graft a fig cutting while it is rooting?
3. Zone 7a here. Would you recommend the best time to graft in Spring?
4. Have you tried air layer a fuyu persimmon tree?
Keep up the good work. Thanks 🙏.
I grafted persimmon in April when the rootstock buds were first swelling and some tiny leaves were present and the grafts did not take. I tried again in May when the rootstock leaves were large and there was a few inches of stem growth and the grafts took. I think it worked in May because more sap was flowing up and down the tree.
I heard the same. Doing persimmon (and pawpaws) in May (in zone 7a/b in Philadelphia). I will try that this year.
Thank you for the video, can I take a bud from a tree after dormant is over, but the bud did not open yet (let's say in May) and I use it to graft because I didn't save scions from the winter, my zone is 7
Please answer me, thank you again
It is now april of the following year and it does not appear the buds grafted successfully. I grafted the buds late last year so the timing might have proved a problem. I don't even know if this method is going to be successful but I am trying this in early spring this time.(update: the spring grafting was much more successful when I did chip bud grafting.) A learning experience for me. I wish there was more info about chip bud grafting fuyu persimmons on you tube.
I don’t think I’ve ever had a chip bud graft take on persimmon. I have the most luck with bark grafts, veneer inlay type grafts, anything that involves bark slipping and hotter weather seems to give me better results.
Spring chipping was better for you as fall chipping? Thanks
Hi Perry again:)
You know what, i had success with chipping apple and pear, but only removing the woody part inside the chip.
How much wood do you leave on the chip, or how deep you cut into the wood of the scion for chipping?
Rootstock and scion diamater are equal as you graft?
I heard that the less wood on the chip the better chanches you have with healing.
I learned also, that you do not have to make perfect matches on the edges, which i did always, but you have to leave a small frame arround the chip on the rootstock....
In my zone my sharon starts to leaf out in middle of april tiny leaves at first, is it already okay for chipping?
If you have any suggestion or supervision or any additional knowledge according to my thoughts i would be very happy.
Thanks
I start grafting buds when I see leaves coming out on the root stock in the spring. I want the sap flowing and leaves showing. Then I take my scions from the frig and go to work. The video shows pretty well how much wood I leave on my buds but I'm learning.
I am in zone 7/b my 7 years old Sharon tree has started to leaf out couple of days ago. I had some scions left from february, i stored them in wet newspaper in fridge, then half the part of the sticks in sand in my cellar. Unfortunateley the scions became semi dry… i put them again into water for one night and attempted to chip them 2 weeks ago. At that time there were just swollen buds on my tree. Cutting bud from semi dry wood is very hard and there were some browning inside the chip as well…
I had to go deep cause the skin was very thin…..
I made 10 attempts but the underslot is not aleay covering the chip because of the deep cut into the scions….
I still do not know if they are taken…
I think beginning/mid august is also a good chipping attempt period, no cutting back needed just next april, and it will grow stonger than spring chipping.. the bud just heals into the bark.
How do you store scions?
If chips fail on a bigger tree, how can i cover the woends to heal themselves again?
Thanks Adam
Adam I had a very high success rate grafting my fuyu and hachiya scions last spring. I cut the scions in march and wrapped them in a damp, not wet, blue shop towel and placed those in a zip lock in the fridge. When my root stock started getting leaves in early spring I knew the sap was running and that is when I chip bud grafted to my root stock. When I cut the buds i spritzed them with water to keep them moist until I wrapped them with paratape because I am slow. I also tried to graft the buds on the side of the root stock that sees less sun to keep them more in the shade. I am not an expert. I am just a gardener who managed to get things right so I shared what I did. A few days ago I saw many of my grafts from last year are leafing out with about 2 to 3 feet of growth from the buds I grafted last spring. Yay.
Are American Persimmon invasive? I just planted 2 small ones in my orchard. The guy I purchased them from said they grow about 10 feet.
The american persimmon trees that I have seen grow 30 to 40 feet tall. Not sure what you mean by invasive. They are easily controlled in a yard by mowing any start ups.